I love how the biggest Terraria drama is nowhere near as bad as the average drama for other games.

@Ed-1749

9 ай бұрын

Granted, to a terraria player a 1% worse drop rate is the worst pumishment relogic could force on us.

@hencethebeetroot

9 ай бұрын

terraria's most controversial event: "hey not a big fan of this feature" "ok, i fixed it and here's a meme as a bonus" minecraft literally two days ago: "CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAB" "NOOOOOOOOOO FAST BOATS" "AAAAAAH STOP THE VOTE" "And wolf armor wins! Time to bin these other two great ideas forever!" "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

@saladseller557

9 ай бұрын

@@Ed-1749you’re goddamn right

@RyzawaVT

9 ай бұрын

@@hencethebeetroot lol exactly ugh

@ZudinGodofWar

9 ай бұрын

*looks at the recent mob vote for minecraft* Yeah...

"We fucked up, our bad. But screw all you who wasted time to mock us specifically."

@RoundShades

8 ай бұрын

I kinda like it LMAO.

@kaiz7_11

8 ай бұрын

That's why I love Relogic

@nouns7504

6 ай бұрын

"shit out bad, but fuck yall heres a guaranteed better experience/quality of life easter egg for when u get hermes boots n have enough patience for 30 minutes of digging a running hole"

@femboichik

5 ай бұрын

Red is one of the biggest trolls in game development history

@movintree4206

3 ай бұрын

They didn’t even fuck up tho torch luck is the smartest mechanic that is now gone

"Okay, your regular torches won't give you bad luck, but now you have to fight them all."

@zilentecho3954

9 ай бұрын

As the founding fathers intended

@gibusgabe

8 ай бұрын

Hey, at least beating them allows you to get free luck from the torch god’s blessing

@SealandIsBestCountry

7 ай бұрын

And if you win you can finally get the torch luck

@shadydaemon4178

7 ай бұрын

Like number 666, you’re welcome. 😈

@blakksheep736

6 ай бұрын

So basically they turned poor luck into poor skill.

I had no idea that the summoning method for Torch God was actually inspired by the community memeing on the hidden mechanic.

@Vampyzx

8 ай бұрын

Its quite silly

@xender8012

8 ай бұрын

​@@VampyzxYoure quite silly

@lechking941

8 ай бұрын

@@Vampyzxbut compared to othergames its the best silly stupidness

@dinnerboons1504

8 ай бұрын

@@Vampyzxsilly is not a bad thing.

@hogndog2339

7 ай бұрын

I don’t think it did, I’m pretty sure torch god was introduced alongside the new luck mechanic

Imagine coming back to your Terraria world and you're greeted by Boss 3 and your entire base going up in flames.

@CloutmasterPhluphyy

9 ай бұрын

Boss 2 is wall's theme. Boss 3 is torch god

@hemovor

9 ай бұрын

It only happens underground

@pongsuleeconolly4474

9 ай бұрын

People that make base underground exist 💀 (totally not me)

@mohawk1010

9 ай бұрын

​@@pongsuleeconolly4474hey at lease its one time per charecter and after beating it you get a really good buff

@hemovor

9 ай бұрын

@@pongsuleeconolly4474 it would still have to be 200 blocks deep and why would you want a base that deep

“Oh, hey! Relogic removed the negative torch luck, that’s great! Let me just go ahead and clean up the hundreds of torches I placed in prote-“ *”…why do I hear boss music”*

@elistewart3435

9 ай бұрын

*Hundreds of fireballs flies towards the player’s face*

@azo97654

9 ай бұрын

1000th like

@UlyssesK402

9 ай бұрын

Literally.

@TH3H3LLR41S3R

9 ай бұрын

When I was younger. I used torches to plan buildings since they are renewable. That same reason is how I found out about torch god.

@zer0gamer796

8 ай бұрын

I accidentally got torch god while exploring underground lol

Only in Terraria would the devs use your protests to attack you back

@Elmithian

8 ай бұрын

I got to admit I could only say "well played" when that happened. Got me gear and jumped the world.

Torch God is love, torch God is life

@glassofwater5140

9 ай бұрын

we live we love we lie

@MrKruel1

9 ай бұрын

Kbo. Op😊😊l😊p😊l

@jhdhgklfglg

9 ай бұрын

​@@glassofwater5140I was just about to comment that 💀

@inanimateinsomniac4life

9 ай бұрын

Oh god

@ilbrasciolarochearrostelac8762

9 ай бұрын

I understood that reference

"Fine, I'll fix it, but I'm turning your protest against you" -Redigit, probably

I honestly feel blessed when I think about how negative torch luck - which was patched out extremely quickly - is the worst thing that’s ever happened to this game. There are so many game communities that wish a problem like that could be their game’s worst issue for *one update.*

@nathanschultz7950

9 ай бұрын

*Hides calamity behind me* Yeah totally no drama or anything to see here 👀

@Juxta...

9 ай бұрын

@nathanschultz7950 that's a mod dude

@sparkywilson1405

9 ай бұрын

IMO negative torch luck was minor compared to clowns blowing up your base unless you built it in the sky or covered it in 3 layers of ugly dungeon brick

@bobertastic6541

9 ай бұрын

@@nathanschultz7950 I feel bad for their music dev. And people that like whips. And anyone on their discord I heard that is ass

@RickyhoImes

8 ай бұрын

@@nathanschultz7950you are gonna flip out when you find out that’s a mod

The very weird coincidence surrounding it is that there's a cultural event in Japan which so closely parallels the Torch God's summoning method I'm sure it was used as an inspration. Loosely translated to "Night of 100 Yokai", it's a festival event with similar vibes to Halloween, where 100 candles are lit and people sit around telling ghost stories. And when the last candle burns out it heralds the arrival of a monster.

@sygsupreme11

9 ай бұрын

That seems like a fun event. 👍

@butchbabytoaster

9 ай бұрын

Pretty sure that also inspired SCP-5999 "This Is Where I Died."

@stancamita9126

3 ай бұрын

​@@sygsupreme11No is not , the unlucky ones that had almost to no light in that room and hearing 60+ horror gruelsome stories got traumatised for life claiming to see the horrors of their stories and usually the one that extinguishes the last candle and stays in the dark .... he won t live much , 2-3 weeks then he takes his " hearth shaped object" becquse of what he sees and hears when in darkness

@stancamita9126

3 ай бұрын

Oppps sorry wrong activity , what i said in my comment is something that young samurais do in like 1200 ' . The event that you mentioned is very similar to the test the samurais do thats why i mix them up. The difference is the event is fun eith cheap stories just for fun.... and the samurai one is nightmare fuel... if u want a better explanation i can give you a video name to look at

@boredboi6279

2 ай бұрын

That should be a summoning ritual for a boss you put down 6 candles that you find in all the different biomes or craft with biome specific blocks then you need to watch for 10-20 seconds as one by one they all go out then the boss appears that would be pretty cold

Biggest terraria drama: “So we’re rebelling by posting a billion torches.” Relogic: “Ok, we listen but now the torch god declares war.”

Any normal dev team: we’re so sorry, we removed that feature:) Re logic: okay so that thingmabob is no more, speaking of which I heard you like bullet hells, boy do I have something for you!

That's a lesson on game design, the best way to make players embrace a mechanic is to reward them for it, not to punish them for not doing it. Not getting the reward is already "punishment" enough, if you add an actual punishment on top of that it just feels unfair

@catritonix

8 ай бұрын

not punishing ppl or treating them like shit does wonders everywhere!

I wish that they would also make the torches that match each biome brighter when within their proper biome in addition to boosting luck. Sometimes it just feels a little too dark!

@LuisAngel-sb8xd

6 ай бұрын

In fact they do brighten the biome more, look closely

@ChadVanryn

2 ай бұрын

It definitely seems that they do make it brighter, as well as reach further

Also Torch God's Favor is Red's sneaky strategy to make us use correct torches more.

@Dan_the_Druid

9 ай бұрын

“Correct.” Still annoyed about this idea. I’ll use whatever torches I want in this game about building and freedom.

@markonciox2353

9 ай бұрын

​@@Dan_the_Druidyou can think about it like the corresponding torches for each biome

@Dan_the_Druid

9 ай бұрын

@@markonciox2353 Yeah I know, but the insinuation of there being correct torches was annoying in its entirety.

@talcorp9998

9 ай бұрын

@@Dan_the_Druidyou can still build whatever, it’s really just for grinding and farms. What’s with the salt?

@Dan_the_Druid

9 ай бұрын

@@talcorp9998 Choosing to punish people for playing the game in a normal way was so stupid, it only became alright once they took out the torch luck penalty. I’m fine with an incentive to use other torches, so the bonus to luck you get for it now is cool, but punishing players for using normal torches was so awful.

It is really cool how they reversed the luck change back to normal after how the community voiced about their complaints on it It really shows how re logic listens to the community and takes their feedback 10/10

@LillLizzert

9 ай бұрын

Relogic is one of the only game companies ever who I'll always trust tp listen to their community

@zephyrprime8

9 ай бұрын

Relogic listens unlike the other cube based game's devs 💀

@Kuro-ii1tz

9 ай бұрын

Not only that they had some fun messing with the torch spam, and even gave players an easier way to benefit from positive luck afterwards Re-Logic developers are actual Chads

@goofyahdemoman1134

Ай бұрын

Re-Logic’s 1.4.5 has more passion than the 1.21 Minecraft Update, despite the new Minecraft update having more to do. It’s not about quality not quantity, it’s about passion.

@BrinaaSM

Ай бұрын

@@goofyahdemoman1134 Hard disagree. Passion-projects can still be trash sometimes. Passion alone is not enough to make an update/game good. Quality is definitely important and usually results from passion, but not always. Same way quantity can't be neglected. If you get one amazing passion update every 5 years in a game that doesn't even give you content for one, then quantity is a big factor, too, because a lot of people would've left the game by then. Fortunately both games you named can be played to death and one has way more possibilities to be played than the other, so quantity isn't super important here.

I love how the terraria devs avoided drama by fixing a bad idea into a good one

So we rebelled with torches.... And the torches rebelled back?

Lol i love learning about lore like this.

I can imagine red opening up twitter and just going "wtf are they doing now? Alr fine I'll do it ya lil sh*t"

The biggest terraria drama, fixed in, probably, 1 day.

@Moonlord2193

9 ай бұрын

And most players (like me) forgot bad torch luck was even a thing

The drama resulted in an upgrade: toggle biome specific torches. Glad it happened 😂

I actually love torch gods favor. First time I ever got it was lighting up a golem arena and had no idea of it. I did torch god and golem at the same time and had never done golem. I was shocked when I got 2 achievements and now I always get torch gods favor in my worlds

Player: *place down tons of torches to protest* Relogic meeting: alright we need to get rid of the torch feature. But how do we troll them back

i remember this drama, all hail torch god

The torches are pretty powerful, too... Why can't we just use them as weapons, Re-Logic?!

@DeepanshV

9 ай бұрын

Aren't lightsabers technically a type of torch or maybe I am just dumb

@CrustyFox87

9 ай бұрын

@@DeepanshV well you’re not wrong 🤔

@diseasedwombat5611

9 ай бұрын

@@CrustyFox87pointy flashlight

@Victor0176_

9 ай бұрын

a torch gun...

@CrustyFox87

9 ай бұрын

@@Victor0176_ that reminds me of an old Minecraft mod that added a lot of torch-related items, like a torch bazooka

I was so confused when random fireballs started attacking me in the jungle

I always do torch god not because of the luck but because putting certain torches in the wrong biome just triggers something inside me lol

@Dmanthepowerful

9 ай бұрын

The added brightness of biome torches leads to me using whichever I think is the brightest . . . Or have the most of from chests. I don’t think you’d like it in my workd

This is how you interact with the community. Listen when they complain about something while trolling them a lil bit

I remember I tried to make a cool ballroom-like room in my home with a bunch of torches right after this was added and I was unaware of the update. That shot scared me so bad, the torch god practically killed me irl.

Btw in the files the Torch God Event is called “happyfuntorchtime”

My favorite thing is that they made it also a thing where people could get the Torch God's Favor which would just allow you to craft regular Torches into Biome specific torches~ Like even their punishment was turned into something that overall benefits the community! Gotta love Re-Logic

Torch God is dope tbh

All worship the Torch God🔦🕯️

@kahil101

9 ай бұрын

Torches for the Torch god 🙏

@Da_real_bot

7 ай бұрын

We live we love we lie

Terraria devs actually listen to their community and then add stuff as a joke but is also some of the best stuff in the game.

Wait so do we still get good torch luck if we use the biome torches?

@Crabstorm

2 ай бұрын

I don't think so? I am not 100% sure, but what you can do, is if you place 100 torches in a room like that, if you survive them attacking you, you get a permanent luck increase. Check the wiki or fandom for more info cuz im not a pro on this kind of stuff.

@micahfurlow2624

2 ай бұрын

Positive torch luck still exists, negative torch luck is the main thing that people hated (and was subsequently removed)

@itssmerusher8049

2 ай бұрын

@@micahfurlow2624 ok thx

@irmacastilla5003

2 ай бұрын

yes but now it does not make you unlucky only lucky with the biome torch

@irmacastilla5003

2 ай бұрын

@@Crabstorm the luck is because the correct biome torch

Wait, so the right biome torches still give you better luck? How did I never know this???

Man terraria community is the Best community i ever seen

gotta love how Re-Logic not just correct their mistake, but uno reverse the trolls in their own wacky style. one of the best dev companies, I tell ya

I remember back when it happened one of my personal reason I disliked it was for building reason and esthetics I prefer the warm glow of the regular torch and some of the colored torches makes it harder to see in general, so some areas would just because unlucky just because I disliked the look of some torches

@julienbronsch5039

2 ай бұрын

I think this was the exsact reason why negative torch luck was removed. Jungle torches are really bad in my opinion

@1roman1738

2 ай бұрын

It wasn't even just the area that was unlucky, it was your CHARACTERS LUCK that got reduced. Meaning literally less drops overall and worse traveling merchant trades

@plaguenplay3516

Ай бұрын

​@@julienbronsch5039you think jungle torches are bad? try crimson ones. they both look awful and give a miniscule amount of light

That explains why the torch god started attacking me while fighting golem 😭

I could’ve sworn regular torches weren’t affected by biome torch luck. I thought it was just biome torches.

Re-Logic really said "F these people in particular" lmao

I feel like bad torch luck couldve worked if it excluded normal torches.

I remember in my first play through, I was going through the crimson caves, and it was so dark that I placed like 100 torches. That was obviously a massive mistake.

Homestly regular torches shouldn't have changed luck at all

Reject torches Embrace minning helment

@yeuogu4840

6 ай бұрын

magiluminescence came in clutch even if its relatively new

@LieMac

6 ай бұрын

Too bad it doesnt work in vanity slot

Terraria devs are simple creature. They listen. They revenge.

Terraria protesting: placing torches Minecraft protesting: bullying MOJANG

That explains why when I was farming, I got attacked by random fire beams for a good 5 minutes. They didn't bother me since it was already near endgame but I was confused why that was happening.

And now there's a lore explanation for why torches stay lit forever.

I mean it wasnt a bad idea per se honestly, I feel like if they added some text to the item description to hint at it like "increases luck in the desert" or added a buff to go with it it could have been a lot of fun, being hidden was its only draw back.

Luck isn't as effective as people made it out to be but it was still not nice to have a hidden mechanic punish you for not playing "correctly". I'm glad torch god event exists now because I love using biome torches but I was always too lazy to craft them.

i didn't even know torch luck was a thing, i just assumed my luck was terrible

@julienbronsch5039

4 ай бұрын

Negative torch luck was in the game for a grand total of 5 days back in 2020. I dont think it affected you that much (I mean positive torch luck has been in the game for around 3 years and 8 months now so maybe you couldve used that to get more drops)[

*looks at the terraria controversy You call that a controversy *looks at any other controversy Oh sh!t

Torch gods favor is all worth it

Thank you for this Chippy I did not know the importance of Biome Torches

Empress of Light: "talk to my husband" her husband: (Torch God) Player: "oh dam-" (gets deleted by wave of torch flames)

Funny that they struck back against the protesters by literally attacking them with the torches 😂

Terrarias worst drama: bad luck cuz torch Minecraft mild drama: phantoms

@plaguenplay3516

Ай бұрын

I am almost afraid to ask...what happened after phantoms were added?

bro melee main rlly said ain't no bad luck gonna kill me then next patch later

Re-logic: "We listen to our players, we believe it is important to point out that we also TROLL our players"

That's why I get randomly attacked by the 'Torch God' in dungeons.

Bro decided to make players bases attack them

The loop on this is flawless. You almost can't even tell when it restarts.

Got that Torch God rizz.

But if you beat the torch got you get an item that makes it so that every torch you place transforms into the correct version

and then the torch god's favor made getting good torch luck super easy so it was a win-win

I mean it sounds like a cool idea but maybe they should’ve had the basic torch as standard luck rather than being included in the torch luck calculations

I dont play Terraria much, but that sounds like a truly torch-urous mechanic.

@plaguenplay3516

Ай бұрын

you little-

Torch god was my worst nightmare and now I understand why 😂😂

Honestly the torch luck thing wouldn’t be that bad now that we have torch gods favor it’s basically like beating any other boss to get a good item

And beating torch god even lets you place biome matching torches automatically, thus removing the tedium of crafting the correct torches for extra luck.

Some biome torch color are weird, nothing beats good old plain torch

@julienbronsch5039

9 ай бұрын

White Torch:

I mean, the reasonable fix would probably have been just making the normal torch immune to any such luck changes both negative and positive.

@julienbronsch5039

2 ай бұрын

It was already immune to positive. But now negative doesnt exist at all

That’s why my torches would attack me, I always wondered why since that never happened until some new updates came out.

I love how Relogic removed the bad torch luck, then added the torch god out of spite

@plaguenplay3516

Ай бұрын

it's not about the luck, it's about sending the message

“I’m beginning to feel like a torch god, torch god”

Oh so that’s why the reward for surviving is never having to worry about having the wrong torch

I personally hate that you get penalized for having NPCS in a town. I get the pylons are cool and they want to promote that, but I hate that I cannot just have a big town with ALL my NPC’s in it, without getting a spike in prices because I didn’t want to make a dozen outposts to use the pylon system I never remember to use

You could imagine my surprise when my boss arenas started fighting back

@plaguenplay3516

Ай бұрын

lmao I can imagine that

i remember playing terraria with a friend and being a noob but collecting/making different types of torches and randomly getting a torch god something (i think it was an item or an achievement) and up until now i have no idea how that worked but it was the coolest terraria moment i ever had

When i looked at the date and it wasn’t April 1st i genuinely started crying… I hope the best to MatPat as well as the new creators coming on the channel.

Is this why every single demon has a voodoo and every single 5th pot has a gold portal now

They tryna fill our inventory with just a torch😂

I like the torch god event, scared the crap outta me first time it happened. Wasn't even tryna spam torches. Just making an underground city lol

Terraria really said:”its fixed, now stop placing those torches or else”

Ooooh. In context, the Torch God makes sense.

I have been farming 3+ hours for a uzi, you just reminded me i can place jungle torches. THANK YOU I NEED TO HEGET ME THAT UZI WITH HIGHER CHANCES

Terraria drama: bad luck from torches Minecraft drama: stuff you can’t even speak about in comment sections + Microsoft’s corporate greed.

@KwikBR

Ай бұрын

the biggest drama i could think of is the original creator being a terrible person and a racist

A long time back, one of my friends told me to "light up" our corruption arena. To meme, I covered every single block in the arena with a torch, and we had the hardest laugh of our lives over it. Fast forward to after the update, I did the same thing to bring back the meme, only to be murdered by the Torch God lol

I remember the first time this happened for me. I was preparing to fight chathulus brain and then the bloddy lights go out.

Imagine placing 100 torches before the torch god update then finding out about the torch luck removal then you logged in and you just all of the sudden get attacked by the torches you placed

Re-logic has such a way of dealing with the angry fanbase. Instead of completely getting rid of torch luck mechanics, they use it to create a “boss”

Seeing that rod of discord triggered flash backs to me on my first playthrough having to farm 2 of them because i played with a friend

but you get a perm ability that changes you torch to whatever biome you are ins torch

@kenziebalhatchet

15 күн бұрын

Yeah from torch god which was added when they removed the negative luck of torches

Your "look" would encreace. He said look not luck

Even if you used the wrong torch and it didn’t do anything, that would be a good idea

That's so funny. The Torch God was invented to troll people making fun of Relogic