Updates. Mario Maker 2 stopped getting updates before MM1 for some reason.

@SylkaChan

Ай бұрын

Besides the costumes, SMM2 is clearly better. I wish there would be an SMM3, there isn't enough currently.

I’m sad because I only have Mario maker for the 3DS

You know how sucks Wii U Online-Exclusive shutting because there's no amiibo in SMM2

@Ninjaeule97

2 ай бұрын

Pretendo is here to save the day.

Nintendo should start to listen to their fans

@Rediscool9

2 ай бұрын

The hell does that have anything to do with this video in question?

@murrum3890

2 ай бұрын

You’re right Nintendo should start to listen to their fans.

@mioarajitca3668

2 ай бұрын

@@Rediscool9 yeah, the fact that if nintendo listened to their fans they would've known how to make a better game

@DavidHerrera-vb1qx

Ай бұрын

​@@mioarajitca3668 Mario Wonder: 🗿 Tears of the kingdom: 🗿 Mario RPG remake: 🗿

@SuperGlitchySonic5

Ай бұрын

Why should they?

I love both of these games and, while I think Mario Maker 2 might be better in terms of content with the world maker, 3D World theme, and multiplayer, Mario Maker just fits perfectly on Wii U with the GamePad. Amiibo costumes were great too, and it was such a special moment experiencing a game like that for the first time...

It kinda sounds like you prefer maker 1 because of the memories you have made with it

Mario Maker 2 should've had the amiibo costumes. It would've been such a good addition.

@kolkagaming1234

2 ай бұрын

I agree with you, but having all of them could’ve affected the games memory limit or something.

@splatjam64

29 күн бұрын

I guarantee you the reason why they removed them was due to multiplayer. It would be confusing having four players all wearing the Luigi amiibo costume, and if that's why they're removed then honestly I'm glad they were. Proper additional characters and multiplayer is a much better trade off.

I can honestly agree since I had more memories on mario maker instead of mario maker 2 and I was 6 crazy how a good game can be in your memory

6:19 When are we getting that spotify release, SF Productions?

There was a weird tonal shift from 1 to 2 that I've never really seen anyone mention. 1 used to really incentivize self-growth as a maker/player by offering goals you reach on your own, but in 2 it really expects to pit you in a competition. Everything from the gamemodes to medals tied to a leaderboard to the hard as balls achievements you can show off on your mii makes 2 feel more like a popularity contest which just isn't fun. You can even feel it in the levels. Ever wonder why there are so many "refreshing levels"? Clout Also bring back stacked pipes Nintendo

I can definitely see valid reasons why someone would prefer the first over the second. For example, there was more engagement with the community with the first game, they would release their own official levels pretty frequently and this would be how most of the amiibo costumes were unlocked. Things like that really helped grow a community around the game, which is something the second game definitely feels like its lacking especially now in 2024. The gamepad also just felt way nicer to build with, the ui just worked so well. The sanitized charm in SMM2 is also another good argument to make, but there's one argument you raised that I just completely flat out disagree with. SMM2 isnt worse because it has too much content, if anything the game suffers from not having ENOUGH. The leap from 1 to two in terms of options was definitely a big leap, but it just wasnt big enough in my opinion. A lot of the features that were added were either things that should've been in the first game to begin with, or things being held back by the way they were implemented. The SMB2 gameplay is a perfect example of a good concept held back by execution, sure the game is objectively better for having it due to giving players more ways to spice up their levels, but its just being a power up instead of a full blown style really brings the whole thing down because if you want to design a level around the mario 2 mechanics, you have to constantly put the item everywhere in your level to ensure the player always has it, which just ruins the difficulty of levels in the most place. Another example that comes to mind of good concepts being held back is the fire spitting yoshis. The red yoshi is cool and all, but why just restrict the fire spitting to a specific yoshi? Wouldn't it be way cooler if they just implemented the SMW color coded ability system instead? Adding all four Koopa and Yoshi colors from SMW and have them behave the same way, would give players so many more options for their levels. There's also infuriating restrictions when it comes to what items can be used in what gamestyle *Cough* Fire Bros *Cough* Clear Pipes *Cough* The lack of options in the first game is more justifiable due to it being the first game and being on an unsuccessful system, but there really was no excuse for this game, especially if there's only one new gamestyle. Limitation does inspire creativity, but there's only so much you can draw with a stick in mud before it dries up. I don't know, maybe I'm just spoiled from SMBX and romhacks, but my biggest issue with SMM2 is that it doesn't feel as innovative as the first, but it's at least a little better than the first due to the added options. 🤷‍♂️

I grew up with the 3ds version and I have so many memories with that, but alas, I have even more memories with SMM2, I was so hyped for that game and it's my most played game of all-time (by a large margin, SMM2 on 900+ hours and my second most MK8D is only at 300+ hours), I don't really have any experience with the Wii U version, except from once at a friend's house and a few times on an emulator, but the memories I have with both SMM3DS and SMM2 will make no amount of arguments surpass what these 2 games gave me

Yeah, I agree with the Mystery Mushroom being removed being a problem with the sequel, because although I technically have the first Mario Maker, I have the port that you said you don't talk about (the 3DS one).

Finally, I’m not alone on this hill. Mario maker 1 is better and I want to play as Sonic in a Mario game again

Nah I like MM2 more. But I hate how they pretty much gave up on updating the game, MM1 got so many updates and had events and stuff. If MM2 got updated at least for another year or two, it would be one of the best Mario games ever made.

Rare SF productions L.

Now try smm2 with mods. we got two whole new styles, nsmb2 nsmbw

Bro's complaining that the sequel has more content. At this point I don't think anything can please this man😂.

@SFproductions1

Ай бұрын

im not complaining what

@minionmadness9202

Ай бұрын

@@SFproductions1 Then what was the point of this video? The sequel is abjectively a better game. Aside from the lack of amibo costumes.

@SFproductions1

Ай бұрын

I'm just giving my opinion that's all. You don't have to agree with me

I never got to experience the "charm" of Mario Maker because I didnt have a Wii U. For me that same charm started with Mario Maker 2 so I never really understood why people loved MM1 over 2 because, like you said, 2 just seemed to have way more content but now I realize that people just feel the exact same way about MM1 that I do for MM2.

I agree with you that SMM1 is better for MAKING levels with the touch screen. But making levels is less than 3% of the time the average players will spend on the games. People will probably make a dozen levels maximum. In that sens, I prefer having more content in the game and bit less intuitive Level Editor. It brings a lot more of variety. Also, yes... losing 100 Mario challenge and Amiibo costumes is a shame... But I love playing coop with my friend in SMM2!

@splaturials9156

Ай бұрын

Simply untrue

@daddydwaved

26 күн бұрын

Don’t say he’s wrong no opinions are right or wrong, that’s just his opinion.

good points. makes me think of all those homebrew arcade "VS Fighters" created in MUGEN... they were great, but people's character select screens would be ridiculous... character icons the size of a pin and it took forever to find the character you wanted (Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 in the official games to me pretty much hit the limit of having a reasonably large selection that didn't make it ridiculous... because eventually you just want to have a match and not take longer to pick your characters than to have that match that is going to be under 3 minutes)

Can't u just use your wii u stylus to make levels?

I miss the overlapping pipes because I could make the the big pipes from mario 3 and mario u

There's a degree of wackiness in the original game with crazy sound effects and all sorts of charm. Mario Maker 2 feels more limiting, and the 3d World theme while cool, is ugly af

@daddydwaved

26 күн бұрын

Well that’s your opinion,opinions vary

@varietychan

26 күн бұрын

@@daddydwaved while your comment is right. I still find it a little rude the way you say it

@daddydwaved

26 күн бұрын

Yea I get where you’re coming from, I just wanted to say it because I don’t like when people say their opinions as facts when people have that mindset they will have arguments with other people just to prove that there right

Banger video as always sf 🔥🔥🔥

@SFproductions1

2 ай бұрын

You already know 😎

@daddydwaved

26 күн бұрын

Eh SFproductions is a okay KZreadr In my opinion, although I don’t agree with some of his hot takes,I respect his opinion but I still think his content just just average😐🙂

If there was SLOPES it probably would be better but I only play maker 2 for 3D world mostly

Mario Maker 2 is better by far

This is a nitpick but it annoys me that you can’t use the night theme in Mario maker 2 without the weird effect that it brings

As much as there is in 2 i agree in 1 you could turn into lanky mario

I agree, SMM2 just didn't have the same appeal for me, mainly cause the level editing wasn't nearly as intuitive. I had made 75 levels in the first game, and was so excited for 2, and I even bought an amazon stylus that could work with the Switch, but I only ended up making 3 or 4 levels because all the intuitive design had been replaced with menus to manually select everything. Wanna change a koopa's color? You can't just give it a shake, no now you have to hold down on it for a couple seconds to bring up a menu and then select the koopa's color. Genuinely SMM2 feels soulless compared to the first game. I got my mileage out of playing levels in 2, but the creating part of the game was ruined for me, it was so unappealing.

@daddydwaved

26 күн бұрын

Ehhhh I personally don’t agree with you of saying SMM2 is soulless, I still think it’s a decent game but I respect your opinion

Super Mario Maker 1 was so good, but I always wanted a multiplayer added to the original and maybe even 3ds and Wii u crossplay would’ve made it cooler. It just ended too soon

FINALLY! SOME ONE UNDERSTANDS ME!!!!

@daddydwaved

26 күн бұрын

Oh?? Okay🤨😅.

Great video. You hit the nail on the head. Sometimes more is less. This is the same reason why early seasons of fortnite were far superior in my opinion.

Mario Maker 2 is a better game on a worse console. Honestly, in terms of graphics and performance the Switch is better, but it lacks charm that the Wii U has and is less convenient (even with it being handheld wherever you go)

Honestly i have to agree the amiibos the custom death sounds when someone falls to their death its easier to make levels and more SM2 is still great But SM1 IS SO MUCH BETTER This is a W TAKE

5:45 fin.

I never played smm1, BUT... smm2 is better just because of that one glitch with a claw and a hammer bro that lets you do insane things (if you know, you know)

Put Sonic the Hedgehog Power-up in Super Mario Maker 2 on All Game Styles Like: 1. Super Mario Bros. 1 2. Super Mario Bros. 3 3. Super Mario World 4. New Super Mario Bros. U 5. Super Mario 3D World

Mario content on Sanic channel?!

@SFproductions1

2 ай бұрын

look at my pfp lmao

@anotheryoutubeaccount5259

2 ай бұрын

@@SFproductions1 Sonic and Knuckles

@StickmanGuides

2 ай бұрын

@@anotheryoutubeaccount5259 Are you restarted?

@anotheryoutubeaccount5259

2 ай бұрын

@@StickmanGuides I would love to get restarted, yes, but no, I haven't restarted. Sounds like a very refreshing experience.

@0n1c420

2 ай бұрын

@@anotheryoutubeaccount5259yoooo my fav game, super knuckles odyssey.

The worst part about MM2 is that it has the best new additions but is still worse than its Wii U predecessor.

@quangamershyguyyz7166

6 күн бұрын

How is MM2 worse? It’s better than the original in almost every way

Easy, little timmy levels in smm2 are worse

I disagree completely, we need a Mario maker 3 for the switch that has every object obstacle and entity from all the Mario games going back to new super Mario Bros DS

and the worst part of this, to this day, Mario Maker 2 doesn't have any new content or anything new that we know of. Also Mario Maker 3DS GOAT

It’s crazy how much Nintendo hates Mario Maker 2. Why did it stop getting updated after 2 updates?

The crew ahhhhhh video💀

Mario Maker 2 is still a good game in my point of view

Nah Mario Maker 2 is better, improves on the first game in every way. Just because there's less easter eggs and no amiibo costumes doesn't mean Mario Maker 1 is better.

@splaturials9156

2 ай бұрын

Mario maker one is far less limiting with items and contraptions

@3st1nky

2 ай бұрын

@@splaturials9156 It really isn't. Plus, Mario Maker 2 has the SM3DW style, new enemies, new course parts, new everything, new SLOPES, a story mode with actual decent levels, and its online still works lol. How is that not an upgrade in every aspect?

@Rediscool9

2 ай бұрын

@@splaturials9156 Doesn’t automatically make it a better game. There’s far more to Mario Maker than just making levels believe it or not.

@solelak

Ай бұрын

​@@Rediscool9Even then, the level playing experience is much better in SMM2. Finding good levels is significantly easier in SMM2 with shorter codes and a more in depth search filter.

Very rare L take from SF. I'll still stay subbed though.

@splaturials9156

2 ай бұрын

Hes right mario maker has far more creative options like overlapping pipes

@Rediscool9

2 ай бұрын

@@splaturials9156 That doesn’t automatically make the game better

@splaturials9156

Ай бұрын

@@Rediscool9 kinda does

@Rediscool9

Ай бұрын

@@splaturials9156 Believe it or not, there’s FAR more to Mario Maker than just making levels.

Super Mario Maker had Sonic Amiibo support. WE KNOW WHICH IS THE GOAT NOW!

SMM2 is easily the worst of the 3 games. Yes. I prefer the 3DS Port

I wish this was the case for sonic. I would love to make levels in sonic gameplay. I enjoy sonic way of playing levels more then Mario.

Bruh u literally CAN use touch controls in MM2

@SFproductions1

2 ай бұрын

Brother didn't watch the video

@Neoniq41

2 ай бұрын

@@SFproductions1 It just works

@SFproductions1

2 ай бұрын

@@Neoniq41 yeah it works but it's not as good since you don't have a stylus

@Neoniq41

2 ай бұрын

@@SFproductions1 Works perfectly fine for me without any issues. If anything that matter is higly subjective, since it depends on the person's thumb size.

@SFproductions1

2 ай бұрын

@@Neoniq41 exactly and this video is entirely subjective lol

Im sorry smm2 has too much content

@SFproductions1

Ай бұрын

Agreed

"More content does not always equal a better experience." Let this man cook

Mario Maker 2 was a big downgrade from the 1st one for me in terms of personal enjoyment. It’s still good tho.

Mario Maker getting rid of overlapping pipes for the sequel has got to be the worst mistake in my opinion.

I get why SMM1 is better than SMM2, because it just feel better, can't wait when SMM3 came out and you would call it the worst game of all time.

@SFproductions1

2 ай бұрын

bro i never said i disliked mairo maker 2 i still think its great lol so in no way do i think the next game will be bad

What is NOT in mario maker 2 is that you can't play as , samus, kirby heck even SONIC THE HEDGEHOG!!!

100% AGREED mario maker 1 clears 2 Way better tool kit, in mario maker 1 there were no limitations you could stack pipes have shells inside a spring mario maker 2 feels corporate. Mario maker 2 has more items yet less creative options

I never had either game because they’re too obnoxious

Thank you for this video. I thought I was the only one that noticed the downgrade that maker 2 was

I’m just going to stay as a true fact is “more content does not make a game better than others”. Super Mario Maker had an AMAZING experience with than Super Mario maker 2.

L but I think this channel has mostly Ls

@3st1nky

2 ай бұрын

Of course this channel has mostly L takes. He called SA2 overrated for crying out loud

@chiliboi69

2 ай бұрын

@@3st1nky ikr

@SFproductions1

2 ай бұрын

And y'all are still watching 😭😭

@chiliboi69

2 ай бұрын

@@SFproductions1 yeah I like to make fun of you :)

@3st1nky

2 ай бұрын

@@SFproductions1 yeah, the first 10 seconds of a few videos and that's it. Your watch time going down the drain bucko

More people need to be talking how much better the first Mario Maker is.

@Rediscool9

2 ай бұрын

No they don’t because it is all entirely subjective at the end of the day. Deal with it.

@3st1nky

2 ай бұрын

It isn't tho, Mario Maker 2 has more content and is better in every way

HOW DARE YOU!!! SUPER MARIO MAKER 1 IS NOT BETTER THAN SUPER MARIO MAKER 2 BECAUSE SUPER MARIO MAKER 1 IS FUCKING OVERRATED!!! WHY CAN'T SUPER MARIO MAKER 2 GET SOME LOVE BECAUSE SUPER MARIO MAKER 2 IS REALLY UNDERRATED!!!

@murrum3890

2 ай бұрын

You’re right

@splaturials9156

Ай бұрын

Hes wrong