Hello, everyone! Just a little note here to mention that my thinking about Malazan has evolved in a couple respects since I made this video, and this is because I've now read the prequels to The Malazan Book of the Fallen in preparation for my reread of the series (and, yes, I'm including Esslemont's Novels of the Malazan Empire this time). In fact, my reread has begun, and I have some new Malazan related videos. Most exciting is the fact that I'll be joined in the reread by A.P. Canavan, advance reader for Steven Erikson and Ian Esslemont. A.P. and I will have a discussion of each of the ten books in The Malazan Book of the Fallen over the next ten months. I'd be delighted to have you join us!

@TokyoBlue587

3 жыл бұрын

Great, looking forward to this!!

I’m 200 pages into gardens of the moon. I am absolutely blown away already by what I have read . To say I am excited to read the rest of the books is a wild understatement

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

Жыл бұрын

My best wishes to you for the series! It’s like no other.

@joevesayaporn

10 ай бұрын

How are you getting on? Took me 9 months to read all 10 books

"It's not casual reading ... " - now there's an understatement if I ever heard one ! The complexity, depth & detail of this series is second to none in the fantasy genre ( in my opinion ).

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

dj suth Well said! It is the most complex series in fantasy that I know of. Not just in terms of being long and having a huge cast of characters, but also in how it challenges and engages a reader, giving the reader much more than easy entertainment. Thanks for the comment!

@fightingirish5755

3 жыл бұрын

I still think Tolkien and his books are superior in that regard, Malazan feels more convoluted than complex by comparison though it's still an amazing achievement obviously.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Fighting Irish Tolkien’s tales in Middle-earth were my first love, and LOTR will always be my number one book - not just fantasy, but my number one book. Period. To me, it yields to nothing in terms of depth and beauty. That said, I’d be willing to acknowledge Malazan as the most complex fantasy. Thanks for the comment!

@leontheamateur1135

3 жыл бұрын

Then try Book of the New Sun my fellow bridgeburner!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Léon the Amateur Yes, that’s a huge gap I need to fill. Gene Wolfe’s books are definitely on my radar. Perhaps mid-year or late next year. From what I’ve heard, I expect to really enjoy them. Thanks for the recommendation!

I've read the series many, many times. The series being titled The BOOK of the fallen is just spot on. First read through of gardens, I wasn't so much confused as I was feeling I just didn't have all of the information, but what I did have I knew I liked, so I continued. Deadhouse gates fully introduces you to Erickson. Not the story, but how he writes. It's just a slow build up of what you think are inconsequential things, that converge into an amazing finale with the chain of dogs, which is where I became dumbfounded and hooked. Erickson writes the entire series like it is just one big book: a series of what you think are random or inconsequential or disconnected events, that slowly converge into an amazing finale. By the time I got to the crippled god, no matter if it was the first or ninth time, I had to take breaks because I would start crying at certain events. The only form of media to make me cry, and I love erickson and the series for it.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Wow! I can see what you mean about the pathos of the series, and I also found the last two books especially gut wrenching. I'm truly excited to do my reread since I'll be better prepared and more open to the full experience of the story without worrying about what's going on. In the meantime, I loved Forge of Darkness, which has helped me to better understand and appreciate Erikson's unique genius. Thanks so much for watching and commenting -- much appreciated!

@caseywalters6197

3 жыл бұрын

The Chain of Dogs is one of the most amazing and emotional stories ever written then when you get Duiker starting to tell the story at the end of Memories of Ice you can start to really appreciate the scope of this epic world.

@paulinetayloe9988

2 жыл бұрын

I’m on my first reading of the series and I’m on chapter 5 of gardens of the moon and I am getting hits of the idear what it’s about but I’m still so bloody confused but I’m not giving up,

I honestly believe malazan has changed my life profoundly. I think the character arc is for yourself as you go through the books. The main protagonist is compassion. Humanitys ability to turn it off was the antagonist.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Liam Carragher That’s a beautiful idea! I totally agree that compassion is at the heart of Erikson’s story, so that’s a wonderful notion. And we have seen plenty of evidence of humanity’s ability to turn it off. Thanks for the excellent comment!

@rafaeterna1081

2 жыл бұрын

totally get that vibes from the last 3 books. certainly changed the way i saw my on life and how i value people, that's something rarely happens.

@asnark7115

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve always felt like it was a challenge for us to turn off our own short-term interest knee-jerks and listen to the longer call to common sense.

All time favourite. Remarkable autor, probably the most poetic one I've stumbled upon in the genre.

@hopeprevails3213

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly I think Tavore has the best and most complete character arc, probably on par only with Fiddler's.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

"Poetic" is a perfect word to describe Erikson's writing. Thanks for the comment!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking Karsa Orlong perhaps comes close to a complete character arc, and in a more condensed way, perhaps closer to what you might see in a typical fantasy book.

@MrShaiya96

4 жыл бұрын

@@hopeprevails3213 guy gavriel Kay and Gene Wolfe are rolling in their bed, laughing

@Njerve1

3 жыл бұрын

​@@MrShaiya96 His prose is not at all bad, but SE starts writing actual poetry, instead of just impeccable prose. Its a somewhat unfair comparison though. This is epic fantasy. ;) Personally I think his biggest strength is world building.

I find that once you begin the re-read the beauty really starts to come through. I've gone through the series multiple times and each time still learn things missed times before. Incredible series

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

I believe you when you say you pick up new things even after multiple reads of the series. I’ve finished the two Kharkanas books published so far, and I’ve started Path to Ascendancy, so I’m confident I’ll be prepared to catch a lot more when I start my reread at the end of this year (and I’m including Esslemont’s books this time). I’m very excited for it. Thanks for watching and commenting!

After 3 books of the series, I would say that although Steven Erikson TRULY does amazing scenes and action, it is in the quiet moments within the characters themselves where I see mastery of the artform. I see others who do this, but it sometimes rings empty. With Malazan so far, I can say that you get out of it what you are willing to give it. So don't rush. Put it down and let moments simmer properly. Enjoy the journey of it.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

Жыл бұрын

That’s excellent advice, Dan!

I don't know that I'll ever read another fantasy series quite like Malazan, it got under my skin like nothing I've ever read. Erikson did such a remarkable job with the thematic content and the philosophies he tackled, i was constantly stopping to read entire pages over again, some really brilliant writing. Strangely though, i actually found the story to be quite a character driven one. That said, it can be a very frustrating reading experience at times, in some ways i often think some of Malazans greatest strengths are also it's greatest weaknesses. He's currently working on a Karsa Trilogy, i believe the first book is all done and just waiting for the publication process to get underway. Interesting tid-bit, Erikson actually meant for MOI to come before Deadhouse Gates, he wrote 400 pages of MOI and lost all the work he'd done on it, got frustated and wrote DG instead, i think it worked out for the best honestly.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

Ryan Copeland I was looking forward to your reaction to this video! Thanks for your thoughts. I can see that I still have a lot to learn about the Malazan books, and I suspect I’ll enjoy them even more the next time around. What you describe with these books getting under your skin is the reason we read - the reason we need stories! I certainly agree with you about the brilliance of Erikson’s writing. Have you read Ian Esslemont’s Malazan books as well? I’ve seen fewer reactions to those.

@anangryscorpion5838

4 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy unfortunately I haven't, planning to change that real soon though! I recently bought the ICE novels and Erikson's prequel trilogy. I won't make too many comments on Esslemonts work since I haven't read anything by him, but I don't think they are nearly as well received compared with the main Erikson series. In some ways I like filling in the gaps myself though. I watched your Robin Hobb video a few days ago, she's been sitting on my shelves for the best part of a decade, constantly kicking myself for not getting around to those books. I've heard wonderful things about them.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Ryan. Sounds like you’ve got some great books waiting for you - happy reading!

@travisstroman-spaniel6091

3 жыл бұрын

Meaning the 3rd book of the trilogy is about to come out?

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Travis Stroman-spaniel I haven’t heard that book 3 of The Kharkanas Trilogy is coming out, but I’d be thrilled if it did!

For a man of retirement age such as myself this multi-volume wall of reading seems too daunting for me. Thanks for your thoughtful and informative vids on the books. Per the numerous recommendations I've received from KZreadrs and more I've begun reading The Blade Itself. So far so good. Enjoy your Malazan journey.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Curt! First Law is excellent too. I recently reviewed Abercrombie’s latest, The Wisdom of Crowds, and it’s my opinion that he gets better and better with every book. I hope you’ll enjoy the adventures with Logen, Glokta, and the rest!

Thanks for your recommendation! I'm an anthropologist and fantasy writer myself, so when I heard you describe his books, he sounds perfect for me. Got the first book before I even finished your video.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Brian N It sounds like a perfect fit! I think you’ll easily recognize the anthropological influences. I hope you’ll enjoy it, and I’d love to hear your impressions. Thanks for watching and commenting!

My absolute favorite series, to my mind one of the best things ever created. A living breathing world like no other.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

Glyph the Denier Beautifully said! I’m looking forward to immersing myself more deeply in the world of the Malazan books, and I have the feeling that I’m going to love it even more as I do.

@JZETH_

4 жыл бұрын

I’m excited to be diving in this year! Should be a fun time

@andrewstrongman305

3 жыл бұрын

I feel the same way. I doubt we'll see anything even close to matching it for many years. I've read the books so many times they are falling to pieces.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

andrew strongman I’m going to be working on wearing down my copies some more in the near future, and I’m confident that I’m going to understand and love them even more.

@Severian1

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewstrongman305 Best series ever written! At least to my mind. I've reread it and I can't help but think this.

Here’s how I describe reading Gardens of the Moon: it’s like not knowing anything at all about Lord of the Rings and starting to read in the mines of Moria.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Second Account I love that description! That is indeed in medias res. Thanks for the comment, which gave me a big smile!

@allanwidner9276

3 жыл бұрын

Might be one reason why I liked it, and then liked it even more as I read the rest. When I was part of a poetry group, people were either annoyed or intrigued at how often I started a poem with "And", as if the first stanza was somehow the middle of a story.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Allan Widner Ha ha! An in medias res poem. Homer did it, so why not?

@reprobatic5485

3 жыл бұрын

That's a great analogy. I can totally see how something like this might be a turn off for a lot of readers. I think you have to be of a certain disposition to appreciate being thrown in on the deep end like that. Personally, I loved it. It didn't feel as daunting to me as it seem to be to others. I saw it more as an alluring mystery. That kind of thing really sparks my curiousity and urges me forward to find out more.

@amysteriousviewer3772

3 жыл бұрын

It's more akin to starting at the Battle of Helms deep what with the Assault on Moon Spawn happening very early on in GotM.

Hey! I recently finished Toll the Hounds and I stumbled across your channel as I was going through Booktubers talking about Malazan. The community and environment you have developed here is amazing! I've been watching your videos - from your first one - and as someone who's into fantasy, I've found your videos both informative and fun to watch! Looking forward to watching more of your videos and hearing your thoughts! And I admire the dedication with which you reply to comments. Thank you, Dr. Chase, for this channel!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, Rohit! I’m glad you’ve been enjoying the Malazan videos. A.P. Canavan and I have been having an amazing time going through the books. You may know already, but we have several videos on Toll the Hounds, including one discussion on the book with Steven Erikson, which you’ll find on A.P.’s channel, A Critical Dragon. We’ve just started Dust of Dreams, so it sounds like great timing. Cheers!

I’m currently on book 5 of The Wheel of Time, which I am loving, and I think I will pick his series up as soon as I finish WoT! I love reading these huge, overarching epic fantasy stories, so I can’t wait to try it out!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

You're absolutely right -- there's something wonderful about immersing yourself in one of these giant series. WoT is a fantastic one too, and I hope you continue to love it as you progress through it. Thanks for the comment!

@ElectricLadyland87

3 жыл бұрын

I started Malazan after feeling at a loss after finishing Wheel of Time in like 2 months and was needing another epic! I gotta say, I love WoT but Malazan is a whole other level of epic. You'll love it.

This is fast becoming my favourite book tube channel! Great stuff!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Andrew Musk Thanks so much! I really appreciate the encouragement, and I’m glad you’re getting something from the content.

I really don’t understand why malazan isn’t more well known. Everybody who reads fantasy knows of the wheel of time but I know too few fantasy fans that have heard of malazan which I find perplexing. I’m only midway through book 5 and unless the wheels come off in later books, it is every bit as amazing as WoT

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Jeff Smith I’m a big fan of both series, but my take is that WoT is the more “conventional” of the two in that it’s more representative of fantasy and its tropes. Malazan is simply unusual, perhaps unique, in its refusal to conform to some of the conventions, like having a central protagonist or at least a group of main characters. Perhaps Erikson’s unique genius is why more readers don’t pick up Malazan, and also why many give up. But those who persist and recognize the brilliance usually end up devoted fans. My take. Thanks for commenting!

Good video. I like that you talk about some of the humor Erikson injects into the series. Some of my favorite characters are Bugg and Tehol and Kruppe just for the hilarious stuff they say hahah.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you about Bugg and Tehol -- I love the interactions between them, which can be so brilliantly random and yet insightful at the same time. Thanks for the comment!

@RaysHobbies

3 жыл бұрын

The fight between Iskaral and Tehol on muleback...

@Deuwl

3 жыл бұрын

@@RaysHobbies Yea but he has others too like that Greyfrog was hilarious. Iskaral Pust etc etc.

@RaysHobbies

3 жыл бұрын

@@Deuwl oh definitely. So many moments. I'll always love the series as likely the most enjoyable I've likely read.

@Deuwl

3 жыл бұрын

@@RaysHobbies I don't know why ppl are scared of it. Life is about experiencing things. I call you a coward if you deny yourself this poetic journey. Also, I am a pilot and I fly online too and have a squad, which, haha is ... you guessed it ... The Bridgeburners aka 453.

So excited to finally start this soon. Really looking forward to this series.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

I hope you’ll love it!

Thank you for the informative review. I'll be putting this one my short list.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

Жыл бұрын

I hope you’ll enjoy it!

You mentioned the Black Company. From my understanding it was a direct influence on malazan as well as an influence on dark fantasy and grimdark. Perhaps that’s a series you could do a video on

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

Caesar2k1 Thanks for the suggestion! I’ve read the first three books, but I’ll have to re-read them before I make a video since it’s been a while. It’s definitely on my list, though. Thanks for the comment!

@infamouscola

4 жыл бұрын

black company is that shit!

@EricMcLuen

3 жыл бұрын

@@infamouscola Glen Cook did one of the intros one one of the books. Erickson has repeatedly acknowledged his influence and was humbled by this.

@tribvne9633

3 жыл бұрын

Black Company is a good read. Maybe considered "OG" grim dark. I don't know. I am just a casual reader! But you can clearly see where it influenced Erikson, and his books (Which I consider the pinnacle of fantasy to date.)

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Kilo Echo I saw the influence primarily in the relationships among the soldiers, and possibly in the humor and randomness of their dialogue. It’s really one of the best things about Cook’s books, I think, and Erikson did well to put his own stamp on it. Of course, there’s a lot more going on in Malazan too!

This is probably the best explanatory video to get into this series. Great job Philip.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

8 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind words!

@vermadheeraj29

8 ай бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Keep up the great work, looking forward to starting the Edan Trilogy next year or maybe around Christmas. Malazan is scheduled around summer 2024.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

8 ай бұрын

@@vermadheeraj29 My deepest thanks for giving The Edan Trilogy a try!

@vermadheeraj29

8 ай бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I am always up for great fantasy, and with your passion I am certain it's going to be a hell of a ride. Keep making stories.

Thanks for putting this in plain English. It seems most folks who talk about Malazan just want to flex about how intelligent they are for having read it. I'm starting a huge group read of it this January and this was what I wanted to hear. Thanks again!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Mike's Book Reviews Thanks! In all honesty, it took me a while to adjust to Erikson’s style, partly because he defies certain conventions, like having a central protagonist or set of characters whom the story is built around. Malazan is theme driven instead, with the central theme perhaps being compassion (and often enough the lack thereof). Once I wrapped my head around the fact that Erikson wasn’t giving me a hero but instead was presenting me with a rich cast of very “human” characters, I really started to appreciate his genius. If you don’t mind, I’d love to join your reading group. I just figured out what a discord is with some help from a very nice viewer. I’m a bit behind on social media, but I love fantasy. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!

@mikesbookreviews

3 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Hey, we would love to have you! We have a handful that will be doing a re-read and adding the full chronological order, including the Esslemont books. Malazan veterans are most welcome. You can join our server here: discord.gg/FxASdqz

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Mike's Book Reviews Awesome! I’ll be doing my first reread and adding the Esslemont books, and the timing is pretty ideal for me. I appreciate the opportunity, especially since I admire the positive vibe you’ve established for your channel. I’m reading your buddy Stephen King’s Dark Tower series now, by the way, and I loved The Gunslinger!

@mikesbookreviews

3 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I really enjoyed the Gunslinger re-read. I forgot how much foreshadowing is in that first book.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Mike's Book Reviews I’m impressed so far and look forward to more of the series - I hadn’t realized King was such a great writer!

Great video man, thanks for highlighting Erikson, his writing is incredible! The Malazan Empire novels are cool, too, they give you a really cool background on some events, and they do finish a few arcs, but as always, they leave you wondering

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Jared Bryce Thanks! Any chance you’re related to Jodee Bryce, who commented on this video just a few minutes before you? Just curious! I’m definitely looking forward to my reread of the Malazan books, and I’ll include Esslemont’s contributions when I get there. I loved Forge of Darkness and really feel like I’m getting a better understanding of Erikson’s work, which I’m quite motivated to read. Thanks again for the encouragement- much appreciated!

Just started this series thanks to you and Mike's Book Reviews! I've never experienced a book where I felt so lost and just really enjoyed it at the same time. I've got a lot of gardens of the moon left, but I'm loving it so far! Thanks for the recommendation!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

Жыл бұрын

The attitude of embracing the moment can take you far in Malazan, and before you know it, you’re so immersed that you feel like a veteran Bridgeburner. Best wishes for the read!

@untidaledwildman5143

Жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I'm learning that myself! Excited to see where the story goes, and thanks for the best wishes!

This is just one of the best series I've ever read. Reading the final book a few weeks back, it wasn't at all what I expected to happen, but I was satisfied with the ending. The more I thought about it, the more satisfied I became. Erikson added things in that final book that I'd not thought about for 2, maybe 3 books, but those things had such a pivotal role in the ending. It all just makes sense and kind of clicks together. Never have I read such mind blowing, epic, grand storytelling or scenes. The battles in Memories of Ice, the convergence in Toll the Hounds, Lightfall, Korabas, and so many others in The Crippled God. I could go on and on about this series forever. Oh also, I believe Tavore to be one of the best fantasy characters ever written. Great video!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

sneezy deezy mc deluxe Thank you! I completely agree with you about The Crippled God. I, for one, was not predicting that ending, but it now seems like such a fitting way to finish. You said it well! Thanks again for watching and for the comment!

New to fantasy books. Love the channel!! Very informative.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thanks for watching -- much appreciated!

When you reread this, you will be in awe of what was created. I was amazed my first time through, but the second time was the best experience I've ever had rereading a series and the foreshadowing is shocking.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

Jason Donath I totally believe you when you say that it was the best re-read you’ve done. I’m expecting to catch a lot more and feel less lost, and that will free me up to savor the prose, which I already recognize as brilliant. I’ve actually just started reading Forge of Darkness, the first book of The Kharkanas Trilogy, and I’m loving it so far. Thanks for the comment!

@jasonhackett380

3 жыл бұрын

im on my series reread as well. just starting starting dust of dreams. even better the second time around.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! I’m glad to hear your enthusiasm for the series, and I’m confident I’m going to find myself loving it more and more. I’ve already made some steps along that path by reading Forge of Darkness. Thanks for the comment!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Jason Hackett Excellent! I’m certain I’ll find the same when I get there. In the meantime, I loved Forge of Darkness. Thanks for watching!

@ElectricLadyland87

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, I'm on Bonehunters now on my second read and doing the audiobook this time around and am enjoying it even more.

i am so envious of you english speakers! as a german reader i will have to wait probably 2-3 more years until i can finally finish the series. there will be 20 books in german because the bastards split everyone in two to make more money, and the next one, number 17, will be released in september .... -.- i could read it in english of course, but eriksons english is of such high quality that i would probably miss a lot of things because my english is not perfect on that level. german by the way is perfectly suited for an eloquent writer like him. it is by far the best series i have ever read!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

It is quite true that anyone who can read Erikson is fortunate! As you say, his prose is excellent. On the other hand, this summer I will begin reading Bernhard Hennen's Die Elfen, and because my German is not so good, I'll resort to reading it in an English translation. So, my friend, in this case you might be the fortunate one (though I don't know how you feel about Die Elfen). Thanks for your comment, and best wishes with finishing the Malazan series!

Love your excitement! Drives me to read more. Please make a video about books with interesting magic systems next

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a wonderful idea! I’ll have to think about that one a little, but it could be fun to devote a video to magical systems. Thanks!

Liked and subbed. I'm willing to watch content from fantasy in general, but if you keep bringing Malazan commentary I'd be great! I greatly appreciate your assessment of the series.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

O Niflrog Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I’ll be revisiting Erikson’s work in the future as I read the Kharkanas Trilogy and re-read his Malazan books along with Esslemont’s. I have a feeling that as I read more of Erikson’s books, my admiration for them will grow even more.

I have officially started Gardens of the Moon with Mike’s discord and am done with the first section! It’s definitely dense and hard to follow at times but I’m still really enjoying it more than I thought I would. The second chapter itself might be one of the most epic beginnings of any story I’ve ever experienced. Can’t wait to continue on!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent! I’m happy to hear you’re enjoying Gardens of the Moon so far. I just reread it myself, and as much as I loved it the first time, the second time is blowing me away. I had a chance to talk with Steven Erikson and his advance reader A.P. Canavan (spoiler free), and not only is Erikson brilliant, but he’s also extremely personable and kind.

Just finished the first book Gardens of the Moon. This was my introduction to the epic high fantasy genre. And holy smoke! It's mind blowing! Thoroughly enjoyed it! Also, loved your book review! Although I have to confess that your mention of Soletaken - beings taking the form of dragons turned out to be a bit of a spoiler as I watched your video while in the middle of the book. Nevertheless, nicely done. I enjoyed it!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

I’m so glad you enjoyed Gardens of the Moon! I’ll be rereading it soon myself. You probably know, but there will be a Malazan read along on Mike’s Book Reviews starting in January. Sorry about the Soletaken spoiler - it’s tough to avoid spoilers during reviews, and sometimes I don’t think about something in terms of it being a spoiler. But I’m glad you liked the review overall, and I appreciate your wonderful comments!

i have read so many fantasies and being a foreigner one may say it may have been challenging . but it was the best and greatest fantasy book . the story and the characters and the world is absolutely amazing. karsa orlong character by itself shows the intelligence behind the writer.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Well said! I've read a few novels in languages that are not my first language, so I have some idea how challenging it can be, but my hat is off to you for tackling Malazan! I've heard that Erikson is writing a trilogy with Karsa Orlong at the center of it, though I don't know much about it yet. Thanks for the comment!

Having read the series twice now I'm amazed at how many characters I truly love and care about. Then you have the story. Best series ever

From the chain of dogs to the several nights in Malaz city & everything in between. This is one of the few series I always find my self drawn back to reading & with each telling I discover something more. The Malazan empire series is a wonderful companion to the books of the fallen, with “Orb, sceptre, throne” & “Return of the Crimson Guard” being the stand out novels for myself. Nice to hear a shout out to glen cook ! I feel like his works vastly under appreciated in the genre. In last it’s awesome to hear someone talking about these books, it’s a sub from me.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

I have a feeling you’re absolutely right about re-reading Malazan Book of the Fallen. I expect to enjoy it even more the next time through, and I’m sure a bunch of things will hit me that I missed the first time. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if this series ends up being one of my favorites next time I read it along with the Esslemont books. Thanks much for the comment and for the sub - deeply appreciated!

Ohhh excellent man. I’m excited to be reading this in 2020. I’m pumped and get can’t wait to dive in. I know it’s a very detailed series but I’m down for it.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

Joe's Review Journal It’s a huge commitment, and I found myself confused at first, but it’s well worth a bit of struggle since Erikson is one of the most talented writers I’ve ever read. I hope you’ll love it!

@JZETH_

4 жыл бұрын

Philip Chase thanks man! I know it’s going to be a wild ride but let’s see what happens 💪🏼

First series I’ve ever even considered rereading! I’m on Memories of Ice the second time around and I’m sucked right back into so many characters and subplots I had forgotten about! Absolutely amazing series!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

RowlzRoyce Awesome! I’m gearing up for my reread by tackling the two published books of The Kharkanas Trilogy (already reviewed Forge of Darkness) and then The Path to Ascendancy. By early next year I’ll be reading Malazan again, including Esslemont’s contributions this time, and I have a feeling I’m going to appreciate it even more deeply. Thanks for watching and commenting!

Great video! I would love if you would make some more Malazan videos in the future there seems to be a real space for it on youtube.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I’m definitely going to be revisiting the Malazan world fairly soon, probably starting with the first book of the Kharkanas Trilogy. Eventually, I’ll re-read the series and likely post videos on each book. I appreciate you watching and commenting!

I might try IT in future, Thanks.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

Жыл бұрын

If you do try it, I wish you the best for the journey - it’s a long one!

@noname3609

Жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Well, im a huge fan of Sanderson, Martin, Tolkien and Jordan and im a bit afraid of Malazan due its complexity and length but u encouraged ME so Thanks again sir!!! 😊

I've finished The Main Series, Forge of Darkness, Fall of Light, The Novellas and Esselmonts Novels, haven't gotten to Path to Ascendancy but imo no world is built like Malazan

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

Soffish583822 I ordered Forge of Darkness and Fall of Light just a few days ago, and I’m excited to read them. Now that I’ve got a handle on Erikson’s world, I have a feeling I’m going to love it more and more.

@badstreff

3 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy without giving to much away prepare for a different experience. Way more philosophical imo, which is saying something!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Ben Gardiner I agree! I released my Forge of Darkness review a few days ago. I did find it more philosophical, as you say, but at the same time it was highly readable and helped me understand and appreciate Erikson’s genius. I’m looking forward to Fall of Light. Thanks for commenting!

@christophersuchy3632

3 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy You might look forward to FoL but you're gonna have to wait for the final book. Erikson and his publisher weren't happy with the sales and they put it on a hiatus...

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Christopher Suchy Yes, I heard about that from another viewer. It’s disappointing to hear, but I do hope Erikson will forge ahead with it at some point (no pun intended). From what I’ve read so far, The Kharkanas Trilogy seems so quintessentially Erikson’s style. Thanks for commenting!

Been putting this off for a decade until I was ready. Now starting it today as I think it will be the best series I'll ever read and everything else after it won't compare.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

Жыл бұрын

The Malazan Book of the Fallen, along with all the other Malazan books by Erikson and Esslemont, has become my favorite of all time. For lots more Malazan content, including chats with A.P. Canavan (advance reader for Erikson and Esslemont) and discussions with Erikson and Esslemont, see the Erikson and Esslemont playlists on my channel. Best wishes for the read!

Gene Wolfe is another I would characterize as a writer’s writer. What a great description! Thank you.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Harrison Williams Another viewer mentioned Gene Wolfe, so it seems I really need to check out his books! Thanks for watching and commenting!

@harrison_williams

3 жыл бұрын

His work is generally shorter than contemporary fantasy, but more challenging, of a much higher quality, more rewarding and more memorable (haunting?). I’d recommend Book of the New Sun or Fifth Head of Cerberus as a good starting place.

My favorite books ever!!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 ай бұрын

Same here! Thanks for watching!

Oh goodness. We have a lot of similarities! I love this series, and I am currently on Midnight Tides. Subbed, and excited to watch your other videos!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome! I’m relatively new to KZread, honestly, but I can see how great it can be to listen to people with similar interests and learn from them. Thanks for watching this one, and I’ll be looking out for your assessment of Malazan!

@ToriTalks2

4 жыл бұрын

Philip Chase I’m definitely going to be doing a video series on them. I can’t wait! I’m new-ish to KZread too, and it’s so nice to build a community with other readers. ❤️

I've been reading this for slightly more than year and a half now - the volume may be daunting, but it's so worth it. I already know that when I finish these I'll miss them and will probably start re-reading them oh and for those who are thinking about picking these up, fair warning: Gardens of the Moon is probably *the* hardest case of in medias res I've ever seen

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Maria Ludlow Beautifully said! I’m definitely looking forward to my reread of the series. Yes, you can tell right from the start of Gardens of the Moon that Erikson won’t be holding your hand! Thanks for watching and commenting!

Thank you. I love these books. I think esslemont's books are essential to round some stuff off and give greater depth to some characters.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Courtney King Thanks! I love them too. I’m prepping for my reread of Malazan, which will include Esslemont’s contributions, by reading all of Erikson’s other Malazan related books. I’m confident that I’ll love it even more!

It's an amazing series, definitely worth rereading. Would also recommend the Esslemont books, they are great companion novels. He focuses a lot more on individual characters and specific events within the same narrative. His first book was a bit rough, especially when comparing it to Erikson, but he has grown a hell of a lot - and if you like the setting it's just all gravy 😀 Also the Kharkanas novels - those are on hold for now, but I seriously hope the trilogy will be completed soon. Delving into the history of Dark, Light and the Tiste, yes please! Just pick up everything Erikson has written. The Bauchelain and Korbal Broach short stories are great fun, as are his Star Trek spoofs Wilful Child. And his serious sci-fi novel Rejoice was probably the best book I've read last year.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the informative comments! I’ve heard about the Kharkanas Trilogy and will definitely be reading it as well as the Bauchelain and Korbal Broach stories. With those and the Esslemont books thrown in the next time I read Erikson’s Malazan series, I’ve got plenty to look forward to. Thanks for recommendations - very helpful!

@fritzamtsberg5310

3 жыл бұрын

I agree the Esslemont book are worth the read also

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Fritz Amtsberg Good to know. I’m definitely going to buy them. Thanks!

Can't wait to reread the entire series and pick up on a lot of more tasty details. Karsa Orlong had the most consistent character arch to me. Really enjoyed following his path.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Carl Lindqvist I completely agree about Karsa Orlong. You may already know this, but I’ve heard Erikson is working on a trilogy featuring Karsa. Thanks for the comment, and happy reading!

First time viewer. I like the points you've made. I think the video quality will greatly improve if you add some transitions so that it doesn't feel forced.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

Shamit Sharma Thanks for the comment and the tip! I’m still relatively new at making videos, so I appreciate the insight. Thanks for watching!

Gotta say phillip, this was the pitch that made me start this in 2021, and i am now reading it all this year as I only read book and part of deadhouse gates, I will finish it this year. Then likely reread it next year with the ICE novels

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Malazan is like nothing else I’ve ever read. I wish you the best for the rest of the books, Sean!

@seanhalpin87

Жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I was doing the read along with Alex from tall guy reads and crew but finished the first two books in like 9 days, and they're no longer doing it one a month, so I'll likely just do it alone, unless I can hold off until march to pick up memories of ice which is harder and harder every day haha

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

Жыл бұрын

@@seanhalpin87 Sounds like you’re loving it - that’s music to my ears!

@seanhalpin87

Жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy absolutely incredible thus far. I LOVED deadhouse gates, and I instantly read the prologue of memories of ice, and wow. That was just the most insane prologue I've ever read

Well, I finally finished the Book of the Fallen and I can confirm. Truly amongst the best of literature and solidified itself amongst my personal favourites, and I cannot wait to delve more into this world and converse more of the fan base. And I can't wait to reread these books multiple times. I guess I can count myself amongst you veterans now.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the Malazan Marines! Now you need an appropriate nickname . . . So glad you read and loved the series!

I’m thinking about getting Gardens of the Moon in Jan of 2021 and just taking my time with it. Malazan is a series I’d like to read but there are so many other series I want to read at the same time. So I’m not sure, we’ll see where I’m at when January comes around!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Tyler Black There are just too many great books to read in one lifetime! But if you’re a fantasy fan and you’re ready for something a bit different, and if you’re ready to invest in something big, then Malazan could be just the thing. Anyway, whatever you decide to pick up, happy reading!

I've red through these twice, started listening to the audiobooks recently for my third dip in.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

2 жыл бұрын

I’m blown away by how much more immersed I am the second time through - and I loved them the first time!

@jeremygrant1325

2 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I found the first read through fairly disorienting and didn't feel that I had a good grasp on how the world worked until maybe most of the way through the second book, felt like I was playing catch up the rest of the way on my first read through. But I loved how I felt like the world just kept expanding, at first I thought the story was going to revolve around the Malazan Empire, then I thought it just expanded into a second continent and got a few gods involved. I think it took me until well into the third book until I realized that the story was a true epic, and even though the empire was probably the major human group involved, the story was still about the individuals, and the true crisis was going to dwarf what I thought had been happening.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremygrant1325 You’ve described the reading experience very well for a lot of us!

Hiya Philip, YOU'VE HIT IT BIG

@tylerdoestech4299

3 жыл бұрын

Congrats getting to 1K Subscribers and 10,000+ views! Keep it up!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Tyler Davis Thank you very much! It’s really thanks to viewers like you, and I appreciate it!

Fantastic book.. and worth the time it took to read it. A master of crescendo and plots.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Obiajulu Onyemeh Beautifully said! Erikson is indeed “a master of crescendo and plots”. I’m looking forward to rereading the Malazan books, including Esslemont’s this time, after I prep by reading Erikson’s other Malazan related books. I read and reviewed Forge of Darkness, and I absolutely loved it. Thanks for the comment!

It certainly isnt for casual reading haha! I have been listening to the audiobooks on my commute, but I often have to go to the blog "Malazan, reread of the Fallen" to properly understand the significance of some plot events and characters. Thank god for those bloggers. A truly fantastic saga and I am nearly done, on Toll the Hounds right now. I cant wait for the convergence in this book!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Hatham Rahman Awesome! I wish I had known about the blog - it probably would’ve made my life easier too! It definitely is a fantastic saga. Thanks for the comment!

@frutrace

3 жыл бұрын

I always recommend Tor's Reread of the Fallen to people who are interested, but intimidated by the MBotF. I had my 70 y/o mother read the series with Tor's Reread as a companion, and she loved it.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

frutrace Excellent idea - thanks for suggesting it!

Gosh about 2 years ago I picked up Gardens of the moon. Got about halfway with little difficulty and was loving it. Then suddenly i realized why this series was so daunting, there was so much happening in every sentence and page i couldn't keep up anymore haha. I still haven't finished the first book and I've read many other series since. Maybe this year I'll finish it 😄

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

2 жыл бұрын

Best wishes if you give it another try, and I hope you’ll enjoy whatever you read!

Read the whole series about once a year and have been for many years. I still discover new things with each reading.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

I believe it! I’m into my reread now, and I’m simply blown away. The first time, I was working so hard to understand the books intellectually that I wasn’t allowing myself to experience them emotionally, but this time the immersion is complete. Thanks for watching!

Great video! Subbed

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

I tried reading GotM but I DNF'd it because it was too much. Then upon doing more research I learned just how different and unconventional this series was. Apart from that I learned that you gotta put in extra effort to really appreciate this series. It sounds like a great series with so many cool things so I'll give it another go soon. Good video.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Jamarcus Russell Thanks very much! In all honesty, I wish I had prepared the way you have or been advised before reading the series. You’re absolutely right about the effort, but I can say it really paid off for me, and I’m finding myself more and more impressed with Erikson’s work.

Thank you for your recommendation. Did you have to write down the characters or situations in order to follow the stories amongst books? Is it necessary to continue reading them or you can take a break without getting lost? This looks fantastic but also a big commitment.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

2 жыл бұрын

It is indeed a big commitment. For me, the investment in the series has paid off beautifully - a truly transformative masterpiece of literature. I did not take any notes, and I think it’s fine to take off a month or two between each book. It’s also a series that richly rewards rereads, which is one of the best signs, I think, of excellent writing. Cheers, Romina!

Beautiful prose. Some books you read to escape reality. Malazan makes so feel every emotion and you feel better for it. I’ve laughed out loud (bugg and tehol), cried(fiddler and whiskeyjack), and felt extreme hatred(damn you high king). Read every book about Malazan three times and I’m ready for the fourth in 2021.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

So true! The prose is honestly some of the best I’ve read. I’m starting my reread (this time including Esslemont’s books) at the end of this year. I’ve read the two Kharkanas books published so far, and I’ve started Path to Ascendancy to prepare. I’ll be more than ready this time!

this is making me feel excited to read this series. In 5 months or less ill make sure that i have read this series

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you’ll enjoy it!

Amazing book series, my all time favorite fantasy writer

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

Louis Williams I can definitely see why! I’m actually reading Forge of Darkness right now, in part to prepare for an eventual reread of The Malazan Book of the Fallen. I’m loving it so far, and I’m pretty sure that, once I gain a firmer grasp of the Malazan world, I’m going to love Erikson’s writing more and more. Thanks for the comment!

Hey I know this is an old video but I'm finally checking this one out. I really need to get into this series I have heard such wonderful things from my author friends. They say that he is just brilliant with the world that he has created

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

It’s an incredible series, and I highly recommend it. I recently filmed a video with three other BookTubers that would serve as a good introduction to Malazan. It’s going to appear on Iskar Jarak’s channel this Sunday morning, and it could be a good way to dip your toes in. Thanks for watching!

@WorkingManReads

3 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I will be sure to check that one out 👍 thank you for the content.

Definitely up there for me. Its really hard to beat in terms of scope and epicness.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Chris Nik Well said! There could be a picture of the ten books next to the dictionary entry for “epic”. Thanks for the comment!

Well, you’re to blame… I’ve started Gardens of the Moon. I had never heard of Malazan or Steven Erikson, but I was yearning for a new series of books, a world to add to my other inner worlds, to live in, live with. Thank you… I think :)

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

Жыл бұрын

I accept the blame! 😁 Also, I hope you’ll love Malazan. It’s a big investment with payoff like I’ve never experienced elsewhere. All the best!

I'm on my 4th attempt but this time it's finally sticking and I'm not sure why I had so much trouble before. I never got past the Siege of Pale in my previous attempts but this time I'm enjoying Gardens so much I went ahead and bought Deadhouse Gates and Memories of Ice.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Sometimes we just have to be in the right moment to enjoy a book. And, it’s not the easiest series to get into. That said, my experience was that the deeper I got into it, the more powerful it became. Thanks for watching and commenting!

I have finally dived into Malazan. Two books in and I'm really enjoying it. I think it will eventually take a spot in my top five all time series though as of now I don't believe it will dethrone WoT as my number 1.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

Жыл бұрын

I’m glad to hear you’re enjoying Malazan so far, Larry! It’s a great sign that the first two books went down well, and my best to you for the rest.

My fantasy timeline so far has been LoTR, Wheel of Time, The Witcher, Song of Ice and Fire and now onto Malazan. Currently on Midnight Tides and am loving the series so far. Duiker's perspective of the Chain of Dogs was some of the most enjoyable, heart-felt and heart-wrenching story telling I've encountered yet, and I'm hopelessly in love with the world-building surrounding the Jaghut and Imass. Definitely give this series a hard recommend for anyone who loves an in-depth narrative which oozes with personality.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Jackie Trinkets Beautifully said about the Chain of Dogs! I completely agree with you about the writing being so compelling. I’ve recently ventured on to Erikson’s Kharkanas Trilogy, finishing up Forge of Darkness a couple weeks ago. The more I read of Erikson, the more I love his writing. I’ll read more of his books to prepare for my reread of Malazan. Of the other series you mentioned, I love them all except for The Witcher, which I’m starting this summer. I’d love to know what you think of it. Thanks much for watching and commenting!

@Treazura

3 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Thank you for the thoughtful reply! I always enjoy stumbling upon a new channel revolving around literature, and I'm glad I stumbled upon yours. Always refreshing to get new opinions on media for which people have a mutual adoration for. I also purchased Forge of Darkness during my mass purchase of used Steve Erikson books at my local store, along with all the Malazan he had haha. As for the Witcher, I very much enjoyed reading the entire series. I'm not sure what popular opinion is regarding the layout of the series, as it begins in a sort of short story collection, though I found it charming, as if they were bard tales told in a tavern, short and sweet in their telling. As the books progess, the story streamlines into a more traditional novel to novel layout, which works nicely as well. The storyline itself isn't what I would consider a typical fantasy in the slightest, thematically speaking; while there are heroic undertones and beautifully scripted battle sequences of amazing swordplay and sorcery, the story continually slows into periods of lengthy philosophical contemplation regarding Geralt's (the protagonist) place in the world and his responsibility to those he loves. The narrative also dips its toes into themes, characters, and general story progression of the Arthurian Legends, which Sapkowski is able to poetically weave into the telling of the tale with (imo) great style. I would say Sapkowski is most definitely a kindred soul with the stories I've come to consider fairy tales. A regular fae author :) Hope I didn't bore ya too much with my essay. Look forward to watching more of your channel!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Jackie Trinkets Thanks so much! Far from being boring, your mini-review has increased my interest in reading the series. I also have heard different advice about whether to it’s necessary to start with the short stories, but it sounds like you’d recommend doing that. The fae elements to the storytelling sound intriguing too. I’m grateful for your insights, and thanks again for watching and commenting!

Great video! I am currently reading Wheel of Time and I will probably be finished with the series in about 6 weeks. I have been considering which series to start next, but for some reason Malazan just seems to be too complex. Most people say that you barely understand the first books at all and you need to do a re-read tl really appreciate them. I might read them anyways

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

J Djurholm Thanks! I would say Malazan is certainly worth the investment. Erikson is just too good of a writer not to read if you enjoy epic fantasy. Funny you should mention Robert Jordan’s masterpiece - My next video is actually going to be on Wheel of Time.

@JohanDjurholm96

4 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Thanks for the reply. I am definitely taking a break from a long series after Wheel of Time. I will need to read something shorter, probably Earthsea. It amazes me how much you have actually read! Have you read anything by Stephen King? One of the main reasons why I started Wheel of Time was because of Daniel Greene. I am looking forward to the video. Keep up the good content!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

J Djurholm It helps to be old - I’ve had more years to read! Plus, I’m a literature and writing professor, so it’s my job to read. A pretty good job, really. That said, I’m embarrassed to admit I haven’t read anything by Stephen King yet. One of my summer goals is to start the Dark Tower series. Thanks again for your comments - very appreciated!

@JohanDjurholm96

4 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy That is awesome to hear. I read the Dark Tower series in November to January and I loved it. It is without a doubt the craziest/mindbending fantasy series I have read. The first book is really slow but it really goes up in quality in from book 2.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

J Djurholm Good to know - thanks! It sounds like a cool series, and I definitely don’t mind a different spin on fantasy.

There's nothing more enjoyable than hearing someone's thoughts on this series, both the positive and negative.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

hank france Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed my thoughts, which are evolving as I get to know Erikson’s work better. Just finished Forge of Darkness from The Kharkanas Trilogy and was very impressed. After prepping by reading more of Erikson’s books, I intend to reread Malazan. Thanks for the comment!

i agree with all of the comments. there is something about this series that makes you want to read more and to read all the ten volumes. i am reading the second volume.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

Жыл бұрын

My best wishes to you for the read, Theo! For me, Malazan gets better and better the more times I read it, and I’ve never encountered anything quite like it.

@theotang681

Жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy i am actually listening to the books. i then plan to read all the books on my kindle. i am so much looking forward to the re-read. listening to the audio books just brings all the characters alive. you should hear karsa orlong! most of the narrating is done by michael page. a few were done by ralph lister. currently finishing up listening to TOLL THE HOUNDS and reading JADE CITY at the same time. i am a mailman so when i am doing my route of mail delivery i listen to the books and at home i read books. i love it. take care philip and good luck with your trilogy of books to come.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

Жыл бұрын

@@theotang681 Thank you, Theo! I’m reading Jade City now too!

Every page is a mind fuck. And I love it ❤️ Erikson and Esslemont's work has influenced me as a budding author

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

I’m looking forward to rereading the Malazan books, and I’ll be sure to include Esslemont’s contributions. I’ve been tackling Erikson’s other Malazan related books, like The Kharkanas Trilogy, and I feel like I’m really starting to get his writing, which is indeed mind blowing. Thanks for watching and commenting!

Rereads of MBOTF are a whole new experience ,the foreshadowing and scale is mindboggling ..Be ready for a ton of "Aha! " moments.. Also yes the Esselmont books fill in quite a bit and are a well appreciated facet of the overall arc.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Having finished the two Kharkanas books published so far and being on book 2 of Path to Ascendancy right now, I’m getting more excited for that reread and feeling way more prepared. Since I’ll include the Esslemont books too, I’m hoping to get the full experience, and I fully expect to love it. The question is how high among my favorites it’s going to go!

I am rereading them after finishing the ascendant trilogy and reading knight of knives. It is making a lot more sense and the ending of Gates and Memories that much more emotional.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Eric McLuen Cool! I’m hoping for a similar result. That’s quite encouraging to hear. Thanks for the comment!

I've literally just read the prologue and chapter 1 of Gardens of the Moon and I'm already invested.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

8 ай бұрын

That’s an excellent sign for things to come!

I am reading Gardens of the Moon and enjoying it so far! What reading order do you recommend for this series? I saw a suggestion on another video, to read Erikson’s books with some of Esslemont’s in between. What do you think?

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Erikson and Esslemont recommend reading all the books in publication order. If you’re enjoying Gardens of the Moon, I would stick with that advice. There are many sites that list the books in publication order, but watch out for spoilers when you look it up! Happy reading!

The two series work well together. Erikson's books are the huge time spanning overall arc of this time in their land. Many key events in the book are closed over, because they are handled by the other series. Think of it this way. Erikson's books are months of time. The other novels are one key night. So they read totally different but complement each other perfectly. I highly recommend reading the other set of books to fill in those gaps.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I most definitely will be following your advice for my reread of the series. Incidentally, I recently finished Forge of Darkness and loved it. I'm trying to get all the background stuff under my belt so that I can really enjoy Malazan the second time around, but I also found Forge of Darkness to be an excellent story itself. I appreciate your help!

Update: I just finished the prologue of Malazan, it's def better this time around. I think after I finish Shattered Sea I'm gonna start Malazan. I'm prepared for a 10 book epic! You defentely convinced me to retry. I found the prose much better this time, I maybe was not in the mood for Malazan.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! I hope you’ll enjoy it!

@currangill430

2 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I already find the dialogue very poetic like you said in your video. I liked the anti-war theme in the prologue that one shouldn't aspire to be in war. It reminded me of Beck from the Heroes who was aspiring to follow his father's footsteps. This is just the prologue!

I really want to read this series. I'm half way through with Stormlight right now, but when I've caught up I wanna read Malazan or The Wheel of Time. Both seem really interesting.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

Жыл бұрын

I wish you the best with all those reads!

on my 5th reread of this series. Erikson is a god among fantasy writers

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

5th reread puts you among the truest fans -- you have my respect! As for me, I'm really looking forward to my first reread, which will include the Esslemont books this time. I'm prepping by reading Erikson's other Malazan related content, and I recently read and reviewed Forge of Darkness, which I loved. Now that I'm beginning to wrap my head around Erikson's writing, I'm pretty certain I'm going to love the series even more my second time through. Thanks for the comment!

@rumble7382

3 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy - always glad to see someone 'find' the Malazan series and appreciate them. I've given away Gardens of the Moon at least 12 times to seduce new readers but you're right that not everyone can handle it

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Rumble It’s a series that demands some investment, but it really pays some amazing rewards for those that make that investment. Gardens of the Moon - what a great gift idea!

@SLEEPTHIEFofficial

2 жыл бұрын

More power to you. I don’t think I could ever reread the series again for a variety of reasons

I'm curious into discovering new fantasy literature. Will check them out. 📘

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

Жыл бұрын

I hope you’ll enjoy Malazan. It’s different from anything else I know of. Cheers!

Lots of people have complained about the character work because they don't get to experience all of the nitty-gritty inner thoughts and feelings of the characters (for the most part). They want to latch onto a character (or characters) and experience the events in the books through them. To them I simply compare the characters in Malazan to reading about your co-workers or schoolmates. You learn their personalities, you learn what makes them tick, you learn tidbits about their past through conversations and references throughout the series. But, just like your co-workers and schoolmates, you're never let completely in... And that's on purpose, and that's ok, because Malazan is a book about world events and history. The characters are just along for the ride.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Beautifully said! What I’ve come more and more to think is that Erikson’s portrayal and use of characters is more true to life than any other fantasy author’s. Unlike most authors, he doesn’t give the conventional perspective of one character or set of characters being special and more important than all others.

this series shaped my life. Midnight Tides is the greatest piece of fiction i ever read

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Siddiq Ali Awesome! I recently finished reading Erikson’s Forge of Darkness as part of my preparations for my reread of Malazan, and I anticipate I’m going to love it even more the next time. Thanks for the comment!

@siddiqali1679

3 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Forge of Darkness was a great read. He has a way of making you instantly like new characters. Prazek and Dathenar dialogue had me in stitches

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Siddiq Ali Quite true! Erikson sketches vivid characters in only a few pages, and his humor is wonderful.

My all time favorite as well. So great. Ians series is good as well but to short

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

r f Thanks! I’m prepping for my reread of Malazan these days. I’ll be done with the two published Kharkanas books soon, and then I’ll tackle Path to Ascendancy. And I’ll include Esslemont’s Malazan books this time too. Loads of reading to look forward to!

Very interesting!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

paula mucinga It’s a big commitment but one of the most interesting reads in fantasy, in my opinion. Thanks for the comment!

Favorite series, hands down. I've read it twice and listened to the first 3 audiobooks. Then they went and changed the narrator and it just killed it for me : ( I will most likely read it again in a few years.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

Жыл бұрын

After my reread, it’s my favorite series too. I don’t think I could digest Malazan via audiobooks, but I’ve only tried one audiobook, and it didn’t go well despite the talented narrator and my love of the book. However you read it, Malazan is unlike anything else!

First in, last out.

@andyroos5090

3 жыл бұрын

Erik Willms Always a fair exchange

@RaghavSatya

3 жыл бұрын

Motto to live by, Bridgeburners for life and beyond!

@Deuwl

3 жыл бұрын

@@RaghavSatya I named my squad that I fly with in IL2 Sturmovik, a WW2 flying game, the 453, Bridgeburners!

about the arcs, yes they are covered in the ICE books, the books they write do not follow characters but events. the ppl in them are only in them as long as they effect that books story if you want the character arcs you'll need to read all the books. that said there are a number of arcs that complete inside the main series.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info on the character arcs! Definitely good to know, and, like I said in the video, I'll be reading Esslemont's books alongside Erikson's the next time. I have a feeling I'll enjoy them even more that way.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

On another note, would you say that Esslemont's contributions are as good as Erikson's?

@theriddler2277

4 жыл бұрын

kinda, he is not as good a writer as erikson is(no one is) but he has as good a handle on the world as erikson. the empire novels of his does a great job at expanding the main series both in finishing up the empire arc and expanding the conflict with the crippled god even more. on the plus side he makes squads that are as great as eriksons and he is perhaps even better at large battles and when characters jump betwen the series you can instantly recognize them - they very much agree on personalities etc(from their RPG sessions i'd guess), on the negative he does not attempt anything near the same 'ambition'(for lack of a better word) as erikson does. it is much more 'traditional fantasy'. if i rate erikson as 10/10(i do) then Ian is about an 8.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

TheRiddler ? Thanks again! This is helpful, for sure. I’ll be certain to read Esslemont’s books in the future. It’s pretty awesome to see the level of dedication of the fans who love all these books, and I’m glad to count myself among them.

I should reread these books. I read them something like 15 to 10 years ago and I remember it as the most amazing series. Someone wrote the name Karsa Orlong in a comment below and I remembered his story arc. Unbelievable. This series is filled with tons of amazing characters and situations, many of which I've forgotten, like the Toblakai.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

natechomnicorp Yes, there’s such an unbelievably rich world there that Erikson and his friend Ian Esslemont created. I’m going to do my own reread of Malazan pretty soon, after I read the various prequels. You may have heard, but Erikson has a sequel trilogy in the works featuring none other than Karsa Orlong. Thanks for watching and commenting!

Niceeee. A booktuber who loves Malazan Book of the Fallen. Subscribed!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Petrik Leo Thanks! I just finished Forge of Darkness and Fall of Light, and I’ll be reading The Path to Ascendancy soon to prepare for a reread of Malazan, including Esslemont’s books this time. My esteem for Erikson’s writing is increasing with every book!

@PetrikLeo

3 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I actually haven't read Esslemont's books except for Night of Knives! I have decided that next time on my reread of Malazan Book of the Fallen (maybe next year?), I'm going to read everything in this world, including ICE's books. Back then, I think was too in a hurry to get to the next Erikson's books that I found myself so impatient with reading ICE's books.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Petrik Leo When I started reading Malazan, I didn’t even know about Esslemont’s contributions. I honestly knew very little about the series back then, but this time I’ll be properly geared up!

@PetrikLeo

3 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy If the timing is right, I'll reread it together with you! First in, last out!

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Petrik Leo That would be awesome! You probably know about the read along thatMike is doing on his Discord. I’m thinking about timing my reread to more or less coincide with that, so I’ll likely read Gardens of the Moon in late December or early January.

I'm loving my journey through this amazing world and these wonderful characters so far (on Memories of Ice right now) even though I'm not sure what's going on a lot of the time. I know in some circles its considered Grimdark but I disagree with that assessment. Would it be fair to call Dark fantasy?

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

I just had a great conversation with Mike from Mike's Book Reviews on this exact topic while we reviewed Deadhouse Gates. The video just came out today on his channel. To answer your questions here, I don't think I would categorize Malazan as anything other than fantasy since it has a tendency to defy labels. But I give a longer answer in the discussion with Mike (it's towards the end). I hope you continue to enjoy the series!

@thatsci-firogue

3 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy thanks for the clarification. I thoroughly enjoyed your discussion with Mike. I'm not participating in his read along (I'm doing it at my own pace and may take extended breaks) but it's great to see the read along is going strong and the Malazan community is so welcoming.

I've read and re-read so many times. The richness and depth of the books is astonishing at times. The characters are some of the most memorable. The Esslemont books are equally good IMHO. Memories of Ice is still of of my all times favourite Fantasy novels.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Russ Haywood I’m really looking forward to my first reread of Malazan, and I’ll be including the Esslemont books this time. I’ve been reading Erikson’s other Malazan related books books in preparation, and I have a feeling my respect and admiration for Malazan will deepen as a result.

@russhaywood6418

3 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy That said I couldn't finish Forge of Darkness, which was a disappointment. Not my cup of tea at all.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Russ Haywood I actually loved Forge of Darkness (I did a review of it), but the first few hundred pages were not fast reading. I’m glad I pushed through, but it’s definitely even more “philosophical” than Malazan. One thing it did for me was help me to understand Erikson’s writing a bit better. Not a casual read, that’s for sure.

@russhaywood6418

3 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy No that went to the charity shop. I hope you enjoy the Esslemont books, I know I did. Admittedly he' not quite the stellar writer that Erikson is, but the novels stand up well on their own. 'Blood and Bone' probably my favourite, which if memory serves is set on the continent of Assail.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Russ Haywood Cool - I’m planning to read Esslemont’s pre-Malazan books as well, the ones featuring Kellanved and Dancer. I’ve heard he’s not as amazing as Erikson, but that’s a ridiculously high bar. I’m looking forward to finding out!

I think the best way to approach this series is to not get invested in the characters, but their overall theme and arch. It's not black and white but grey all over, and while there may be evil and good characters, it's not that apparent, especially once you've taken in their back story. The themes are what you need to understand to fully appreciate this series.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

RaZeyLWindBladE That’s excellent advice, and I agree with you, especially regarding the importance of theme. Well said! Thanks for watching and commenting!

I just might try this series this year instead of next year

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

I can hear it calling you, Cynthia! Well, it might also be because it’s making a big splash on BookTube these days, but it’s absolutely a once in a generation masterpiece.

What's your favorite book in the series? I think midnight tides is my favorite (toll the hounds I'm currently reading is challenging that) and feel if Eriksson had a couple more books as tight narratively and character wise the Fallen series would be more mainstream.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a tough question for me to answer, but I have a shortlist of four: Deadhouse Gates, Memories of Ice, Midnight Tides, and The Crippled God. It could, though, since I’m in the middle of my reread now. Lots to love there!

It would be great if you could do a video explaining the magic system and 'warren's etc. I know these may have spoilers, but the world seems so interesting and honestly I'm just not going to read this series. It's too much time. ty though great vid

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

misomiso Thanks! Yes, it’s a huge commitment to read this series. Erikson’s approach to magic is interesting. I think it’s more on the side of “soft magic”, meaning there’s no extended attempt to explain how it works or make a seemingly rational system of it. My sense is that Erikson would prefer to preserve the mystery and sense of wonder that way. A video on it is an excellent idea! Thanks for watching and commenting!

I made it through book three before I gave up on the series. It took me three separate attempts to get through the first half of book 1. By time I broke through the first half of book 1 I really enjoyed the second half of the book and was excited for book 2. Then book 2 it was back to not fun. I had no idea what was going on for the entire book. Same story with the third book. As I was about to put a hold on book 4 at my local library I realized I was reading the books because of inertia and not because I was actually enjoying them. So I stopped there and haven't looked back since.

@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

No question that it’s not for everyone, and it sounds like you gave it a fair chance. In all honesty, I struggled a lot too for the first several books, but the further I got, the more I started loving them. I think I’ll enjoy them even more now that I’m starting my reread. Thanks for watching and commenting!