In conclusion, they're SPcially bad to fix and maintain.

@JakeSimmons

2 жыл бұрын

You earned the pinned comment 😂

@Tyc323

Жыл бұрын

@@JakeSimmons your opinion sucks

@JakeSimmons

Жыл бұрын

@@Tyc323 no u

@FormerCookieCraftSGTS

Жыл бұрын

but half of us don't fix sps so its totally irrelevent.

@ngantnier

3 ай бұрын

I thought they were easy when I've worked on them, at least relative to them DS consoles.

I still feel it's the best Gameboy ever.... the light, the size of the screen, the recharging, the fact that it closed so I could put it in my pocket and not damage the buttons....

@logan317b

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, I don't wanna imagine the scratched I'd have on my screen if it didn't close

@Tyc323

Жыл бұрын

Yeah

@koffeetechshow

Жыл бұрын

I've had several and had one or two last YEARS. hands down my favorite handheld. I just did a unhinged mod for one and love it but still miss the flip. Going to re shell and ips another good board I own with a bigger battery to keep one that still has the satisfying flip. They are a NIGHTMARE to work on though. That hinge combined with the paper thin ribbon display cable makes it so easy to ruin your display lol

@_dfrogman17

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@electro-pirate994

Жыл бұрын

Yeah....the color and advanced need screen protectors....casings on the outside to protect the shell....the only annoying thing about the so is certain mods usually stay out of stock a lot longer then the color or advanced (like the retroglow button mod for so)

The GBA SP is easily the best Gameboy imo. The compact size is great, screen size is the same size as the original GBA without any of the unnecessary bulk. Not to mention that the buttons feel significantly better than the original GBA. Feels great in the hands too imo.

@Corbin-Creates

10 ай бұрын

Agree to disagree

@darthmaul286

9 ай бұрын

that d-pad is like butter

@paulsmith9786

8 ай бұрын

It's just too small for an adult.

@leftyfourguns

5 ай бұрын

I personally prefer the springy buttons of the original GBA to the clicky buttons of SP. Same in regards to the DS Lite vs the DSi

@Sungroove

3 ай бұрын

Nah original gba is better bruh

I had my SP for years, it was perfectly fine, and I loved the thing, I even passed it on to a kid in a hospital.

@NotAnAwesomeTurtle

2 ай бұрын

💀

I love how factual you are about not spraying screens, but you're using a paper towel to clean it. (Paper towels can scratch screens, especially plastic ones, ita better to use a flat cotton swab, a microfiber, or a shammy)

@fourthmail4519

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I was cringing when he used that harsh paper towel.

@Sungroove

3 ай бұрын

Oh my god shutup it’s not gonna scratch it

@PizzaFreaak

3 ай бұрын

@@Sungroovethere is a reason microfibers exist

@AMidgetWalrus

2 ай бұрын

@@PizzaFreaak yeah and its not because paper towels are sandpaper lol paper towel isn't gonna scratch up your screen

I've recently worked on 3 GBA SP consoles and I honestly don't see the problem. These are very minor complaints and you shouldn't drench any electronics in IPA... That is not recommended at all. Toothbrush, qtip are good. But they're very simple to work on for me. I think you just need to work on them more imo

The SP is the least comfortable Gameboy I own for long use (the micro even feels better), but because the clamshell design protects the screen it's also the one that I use outside my house the most, especially when travelling.

My favorite GameBoyAdvance is the classic. It has a better grip, big L and R buttons, directional pads and softer action buttons. headphone jack...It just doesn't have a good screen. But even using batteries these days is better. Because every SP I got used has a bad battery. If you get a GBA with a backlit screen, it becomes the ultimate Gameboy

I like the SP a lot and am looking into modding my old one so it was really useful to hear about some of the challenges, especially the button switch issues which I'd never heard before

After soaking the board in IPA, let it air dry and then put it on a hot table, hot enough to dry out the board but not hot enough to desolder. Never had a problem.

I love the sp. imo it’s the best console ever. It’s compact, yet still large enough to be comfortable, and I love the era of games on it. I also just re-shelled my sp, and found it surprisingly easy. Sure it took a bit of time, but it was straightforward and I didn’t break anything despite having no experience doing it before, and only referring to a guide once. I also have large pockets, but I like knowing that nothing in my pocket will scratch my gameboy’s screen.

@Swampert00260

10 ай бұрын

Also the screen is actually usable out of the box. No more relying on outside sources of light. Even the 001’s screen is good

I love how a lot of electronics repairs are just that something got unplugged internally

The single WORST thing about the GBA SP is that there is no headphone jack.

"We don't know if it's reading cartridges" I mean maybe you could just wait for the gameboy advance screen to go away and try to hear the game sound but I am not experienced with these

@pedrosantana245

3 ай бұрын

but apparently I'm not the only one here lmfao

At first I was on the other side but hearing the explanation I understand where you're coming from - nice green Gameboy though

Just messed up 2 of my D-pad tactile buttons because I used alcohol and a toothbrush. Worked fine before, until I attempted to clean it. My own ignorance cost me my childhood SP. New buttons are on the way to hopefully remedy this. I hope no one else makes the same mistake I did.

@Hotrod9296

Жыл бұрын

Repaired with new ones and the dpad feels brand new. Very hard to solder these though. The solder points are small and right next to each other.

I pretty much agree with all points tbh, also nice shout out to the Slab 11:11 . Legit looking forward to it, I am sure it will be 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

I just watched your How to Upgrade your GBA SP video and came here right after. I never owned a GBA (of any kind) as a kid and just bought one to refurbish along with some parts, so when I watched that vid and saw you mention this one I was like... "oh no, was this a mistake?" Glad I ended up watching this to clear things up because it seems like most of your complaints come from the standpoint of someone who does a lot of modding. I don't have a problem screwing 11+ screws of all different kinds, or potentially having to replace some button switches, since I'm not liable to do it that often. Your upgrade video is the best one I've seen on so far because it clearly goes over every step of the process and makes specific mention of everything you need to be careful of, so knowing your main complaints are about the process of taking things apart and not the viability of the system itself, I feel a lot more confident in starting my project. Also wow I had no idea people were that confused about how to use IPA. I thought spot cleaning was just common sense??? Would have appreciated you mentioning in the SP Upgrade video what you ARE supposed to do because it made it sound like you shouldn't use IPA at all. I hadn't even considered soaking the whole board so was very confused. But anyway clearly not everyone knows that so hopefully your info saves a life lmao

you do great work! I learn a lot watching Thanks! I want to mod my sp to a slab or slate, I just have not pulled the trigger on a soldering iron yet

Love the SP and it's still my daily use, my only issues working on them is the ribbon cable. However, the original gba imo is the most comfortable while playing

5:54 Is there a link for that video where you replaced those switches on the motherboard?

Lmao i cant believe that screen worked after you whipped it around like a pair nunchucks 😂

As someone who has never touched a solder or let alone replaced a shell on my gameboys prior to doing it. It's really not that hard to do anything that doesn't involve de soldering. Everything else is easy peasy. De soldering is an art form so I'd recommend learning the skill before doing it to your gameboy

@thomaspapenfuhs1924

2 жыл бұрын

Desoldering surface mount components especially is terrible. I do occasional soldering and desoldering for my work, and the desoldering literally takes me 60-80% of the time of the total repair, sometimes more if I have to make sure I don't damage the components I'm removing...

In my opinion, the 3DS its the most anoying handheld console to work with. Man, the part of working with the ribbons in the hinges its just a pain.

A little heat will evaporate trapped IPA.

The SP was and is the best Gameboy period. Sure, the clamshell design is a point of failure, but only if cack handedly used, while offering protection to the screen and buttons the standard GBA and Micro don't have. Combined wirh the improved screen, rechargeable battery and greater portability, it's simply a better device all round.

Hinges are always a problem because of the mechanical wear and tear of cables. It is still the best design regarding compact size and protection because the buttons and display are inside. Like a clam-shell phone (or flip-phone)

I have to say, after attempting a New 3DS XL top screen replacement, the SP seems like a kids toy to disassemble. The New 3DS XL is a literal hell to work with. It made me go nuts. Hopefully I can finally get one working this year lol.

@JakeSimmons

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the whole 3DS line is a pain

@artexjay

Жыл бұрын

@@JakeSimmons The DS line is also a pain but could be worse.

If my ribbon cable got pulled out of its placement will the hinges be broken

IPA is fine if you use it lightly to clean contacts you don’t want to soak boards unless you’re gonna leave them for a day to dry

I've had mine but I think either mine doesn't hold a charge and the battery is gone or there was some gunk on the inside.

If you mod a usbc with this do you still have trade function between pokemon games ?

@bodhiston5550

3 ай бұрын

yes. the charger uses a different port

I only just got into gameboy modding a couple weeks back as a friend of mine had a couple and didnt need 2 so i got it pretty cheap, and wanted to install a better screen, now ive fallen down this rabbit hole. From someone coming in with no knowledge, it was pretty easy to work on. Hardest thing was plugging the screen ribbon into the board when reassembling. Other than that it was a breeze, especially compared to modern tech. Most of the things that are covered here i feel are nitpicks. I agree with you on the buttons, sucks you cant work on them really, but other than that i see all of this as a non issue. I grew up with it, and even unbiased i see it as my favorite portable console nintendo made before the switch. Great piece of tech, especially for its time.

This video is basically 15:46 worth of whining, but as a novice modder, I can so totally relate. *SUBBED* LOL

"No fancy intro today" Proceeds to play the fancy intro xD

I love them lol they are crazy durable damn near indestructible 🏋🏻

Really not that many screws, prefer screws ober brittle plastic clips that break when you open it

Never had one break on me.

1:06 need me a gameboy holster.

I had gameboy advance sp long ago but it got broken and now it is gone. I don't know where it is.

Thanks for keeping it real! If you are going to buy an Oem gameboy, get a SP. If you are going to get a modded gameboy get a regular gba. If you specifically want to play gba and dont care for gb and gbc get a ds lite/macro. Sp- backward compatible w/ backlit screen. Also rechargeable. Clam shell. Gba- most comfortable. Battery powered. Easy to modify. Backward compatible. DS Lite- plays ds games and gba. Rechargable battery. Clam shell. Ergonomic. Backlit screen. Emulation capabilities. All gameboys are great. it just depends on what you need. Everyone needs every type of gameboy.

Not if you have the Unhinged or the Slate. It bypasses this problem altogether but at a cost.

what rom is he using to test the buttons?

The SP is the ideal form factor

@Owenmilitaria

3 ай бұрын

Are you ill?

@nosouponhead

3 ай бұрын

Nope.

An advance with a modded screen and a built in battery is so much nicer. I have both with IPS screens, upgraded battery and i always and up using my advance over my SP

The damn backlight lens falling apart while you are working on the top screen,,,ugh...

MY biggest and only issue with the sp is the rechargable battery. THEY ARE SO ANNOYING For ONE REASON. It is insanly hard to find a good condition replacment bettery for one that is actually the correct power. And not only that but if you are getting a gba sp nowadays with no replaced parts its likely that the battery is fully dead and you need to go through a insane hassle to get a new one with the same POWER. It does not make mine any better because the screw is all chewed up. i personally perfer non rechargable batterys for gameboys.

@Solontire

Жыл бұрын

I’m about to mod my SP and it was extremely easy for me to find a 900 mah replacement battery. Cost me like 7 bucks and arrived in 5 days (USA shipping). You’re entitled to your own opinion, but not having a rechargeable battery would drive me nuts. Replacing the battery is one screw….. sounds like just bc your screw is fried is more of a you problem vs the majority of folks doing the same replacement.

@TheSerpentElite

Жыл бұрын

my thing with that is when you buy an SP they usually leave the dang power on and ship it causing the battery to get messed up.

omg the hinges are that simple?! I spent a whole hour hammering my gba sp against the walls of my room to get those suckers to fit.

@JakeSimmons

2 жыл бұрын

They’re simple-ish if you know the tricks😂

@emmettturner9452

Жыл бұрын

@@JakeSimmons Yep. Thankfully, I figured out the Bic Round Stic trick when the SP was still in stores but even today I see so many people forcing them out without opening to the detent position. There are more videos out there telling people the wrong way than there are videos telling them the right way. It’s obvious from the way you installed them in this video that you know how they work: All the grooves and tabs only align for the hinges to go in/out when the screen is open to a specific position (the one where you normally feel a self-supporting detent).

These are my favorite becuse of the compactness and simplicity... not stupid.. for a, "repair beginner" these are simple to fix.. if your gentle, as you should be, they shouldnt have a whole lot to break. I've never broken anything on these and usually they have the easiest fixes. I've broken more playstation shells than I have on anything else. Not writing a nasty comment, I did hate how you kept calling them stupid lol. However, this was your opinion and im sharing mine! It was a great video.

He's just saying it's because how hard it is for him to fix it but thats why you have to take care of it very well

hey man,Can I get one of the original AGS 001 screens, it's hard to find in Indonesia... even used ones don't matter

SP is also bad because it doesn't support AA batteries. Only proprietary battery that may be difficult to find in the future. That's why I chose the original GBA.

IPA for screen cleaning?

I am appalled, I can't wait to watch the video

What do you mean 10 screws that's alot though ._. to get to GBC display - 6 outside, 3 inside = 9. GB Classic? 6 outside, about 10 inside = 16. The SP is actually generous.

So tldr : hinges= bad Electronics have screws, imagine that. Soaking electronics is usually a bad idea, again who knew? Proceeds to get annoyed/surprised that the gameboy still worked And last but certainly not least, he sees a moshed screen cable and DOESN'T do what most repairmen would do and replace the screen.

I now understand your hatred. Im literally in the middle of putting my first custom sp together and the hinges dont go in absolutely no matter what i do. No idea which ones left and right, no idea how to line anything up, nothing on the internet shows a definitive fix other than everybody but me gets it right on the first try. Im at my whits end to say the least and now dont even wanna see if my ips screen and 101 motherboard even work or not cuz the hinges are enough of a heartbreak right now after spendin like 160 or close to it on everything

Attaching the screen ribbon cable to the mobo after it's in the shell...I want to punch a pony about it.

gameboy advance sp has A BACKLIGHT AND THE REASON ITS COMPACT IS BECAUSE it's FOR KIDS NOT GROWN MEN IN THEIR 30s And does the advanced color or originals charge? or do they use batteries? Yeah, I thought so.

@JakeSimmons

2 ай бұрын

I’m not in my 30s

Woahhh the GBA in a GB DMG body is sweeeet! I feel that's pretty much the ideal combo of form factor and functionality for me. I know the landscape format of the original GBA makes more sense ergonomically, however i do own one of those and I STILL prefer the 'portrait' layout of OG GBs or GBA SPs. I'm sure it's 95% nostalgia, but hey 🤷🏻‍♂️

I don't have the largest hands nor the smalest but even as a kid that damn thing would make my hands and fingers hurt. But the OG GBA was amazing, but it did not have a backlit screen. So my favorite GBA is the N3DS with open_agb_firm 😂.

Reminds me of the original 3dw model absolute nightmare to work on

So they're hard to fix if you break them. So just, don't break them? I still have my SP and it works perfectly. I've had an SP run over by a car and it was fine.

I am a fairly large guy and I play on PC with a full sized 104 key keyboard comfortably. And I've got zero issue with the size of the GBC or the SP. I don't really know what the problem is.

@Solontire

Жыл бұрын

Yea idk either - I have smaller hands so maybe it’s better for me but the SP is extremely comfortable for me. Waiting on my everdrive and new IPS screen before I dive into modding my OG 001 version.

My only complaint about the SP is it sucks for playing GB and GBC games, both because the cartridges stick out awkwardly and the games display really small and of course letterboxed due to their different aspect ratio. So while it's nice I guess in a pinch, I much prefer to play GB and GBC games on a modded GBC with a larger backlit IPS screen in the proper aspect ratio. As for GBA games, I'm sort of torn between the classic GBA and the SP. I like the ergonomics of the classic GBA better, but the SP's compact form factor and clamshell design is so satisfying! And it's really not that bad ergonomically, but definitely inferior to the classic design.

GBA SP is better. great screen, protective design, rechargeable battery. its not the most comfortable gba but its definitely the most convenient, i can overlook the small size, it makes it more pocketable.

For something you don't want to open up more than once to maybe get working why does it matter how many screws it has. I just did a shell swap and ips screen mod to my sp and that was easier than a DS phat shell swap and screen replacement

Welp i wanted to replace the shell to my first ever sp but now im thinking about it because of the hinges

@UltraSteelix

2 жыл бұрын

He's making it seem a lot harder than it is. The sp is really not hard to do. I did my first two gameboys with no problems. I just took my time.

@RuxUnderscore

2 жыл бұрын

@@UltraSteelix It's not that it's hard to do, it's just annoying to remove the old hinges. Worse case you might break a tab that holds the hinge in, or you can buy replacements (either aftermarket or original designs). @OP You should take the chance and do it. Hinges are definitely annoying to deal with, but they aren't impossible. Just don't rush it, that's how you break things. And like I said above, you can always buy replacement hinges if you need (or want) to.

@jannikmai46

2 жыл бұрын

So recently I modded my first SP. If you have a big flat head screwdriver you can just push the hinges out. Just press against two pins of the hinges so they "unlock" and then push the whole hinge

@Solontire

Жыл бұрын

Dude the OP is complains about the hinges - just buy replacement ones then…. They’re literally like 5-7 bucks for new ones.

I happen to love my sp I have had mine for 20 plus years and I have one of them near perfect condition it’s well cared for it’s kept in a case it’s whole life so am sorry you had a bad experience with the sp I do respect what you think about it everyone is different and will not always like the same thing so I happen like I said I love my game boy sp sadly the ds has hinge issues and not built to last long I know from experience however the sp zero problems!

I'm sorry did he say SOAK the motherboard in ipa

I think a lot of people missed the point of the video

It fold = good console lol

I’m thinking about modding my first gba SP, just wish there was a laminated screen for the regular gba to avoid any dust and I would mod that instead

@JakeSimmons

Жыл бұрын

There is now. It’s just an ITA screen and not IPS

I feel like the ds lite had bad hinges

BRO SAME- I’ve never liked the SP. but it was for different reasons. Mainly because I love my normal gba and am sick and tired of people constantly talking about how the SP is SOOOO much better and that you NEED a backlit screen. But his points do stand.

@IfritBoi

3 ай бұрын

Backlight mods for the classic GBA is so easy, that's not even a good argument for SP's side. Also SP's are so tiny, it makes blackberry keyboards look like full mechanical ones. GBA shells also look gorgeous especially the modded ones but the SP versions look super bland.

So u hate it becsuse it's hard to open and fix? Most of us just play on them

Replace a top screen on a new 3DS XL. Thats suck

The original Game Boy Advance is much more comfortable to hold. If you give it a rechargeable battery and an IPS screen it is much superior to an SP

Gameboy advance SP dose Not suck in my opinion 😭, I still have mine Gameboy advance SP for 20 years and mine still actually works

Hey atleast it is quite durable

I feel your pain man

The og gba model is perfect.

The sp is the best handheld ever created

Yes! I have been waiting for this video! Thank You!!

Sounds like you just need to get good scrub

Bros complaining about the screw count. Will till he opens up a ps5

when it comes to modding, yeah they suck big time. but i have a soft spot for them when actually playing them, cuse when i was a kid it was the newer cooler version that my friends had but i never did xD

The first GBA was the best, period

This is why I modded a GBA instead of the SP.

yes the best gameboy the sp

Currently waiting on parts from retrosix to come in for my og gba to do up. I didnt want to deal with the hinge mech on the sp lol.

Dude what do u mean

Back when nintendo made quality almost unbreakable products, now with the switch the joycon rails fail sometimes the usb c port other times the stick drift other times the srsl board breaks in the joycons other times they dont conect, yep that gba sp is old nintendo quality thats why it works, i dont get why you hate the sp honestly i think its amazing, i respect your opinion but i dont share it, and the hinches is the best hinches nintendo has ever made in the ds and the 3ds is a million times more complex and harder to work on

@JakeSimmons

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for respectfully disagreeing. The biggest thing for me is the buttons failing constantly and how much harder it is to fix compared to the other models :/

@Ray3D

2 жыл бұрын

@@JakeSimmons 100% I had the same issue. IPA destroyed 5 buttons for me. Lol

This video makes me want to buy an SP from you

a lot of people are looking for a better video on how to mod/reshell their GBA SP at their pace. and not a lot of people do this on KZread.

I love the jab at LTT

@JakeSimmons

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a jab with love😂

@kruger-wl5nr

2 жыл бұрын

@@JakeSimmons yes of course! Haha

WTF did you do to get that happen tear it half in a crappy attempt at making a controversy?

I guess the original gba is better?

i still love SPs

I’m searching for the intro song for an hour now and I can’t find it

@JakeSimmons

10 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/mIRlsLpmorPKYqQ.htmlsi=XFRv8IaLNWr_nuYV