Why Soldiers Don't Need to Run for Endurance
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If you train your army to run, don’t be surprised when it does.
@ronaldrobertson2332
Ай бұрын
That's makes sense to me.
i noticed in basic training the young kids who could run, couldnt cope with rucking a large or heavy pack, the slightly out of shape guys struggled to get good times running ... but no problem rucking. Also the gym bunnies, had strength ... but no stamina, and they suffered when not getting the calories.
Patrolling with weight gives you the required endurance & Strength I’m 48 and I still get out and walk with my gear Pack webbing chest rig 😂😂😂
Yup! Furthest I ran in a combat zone was about 4 big city blocks, so about 400 meters. That was very rare. Nature of the battlespace is very different than people think.
Rucking over running.
Great advice, works when your 40 in Baghdad too.
@gregjones3660
Ай бұрын
@@slappy8941 ur
My absolute best time was 12:32. I was maybe 20. We had spent the whole night drinking. I was running with my SGT, whom had been out with us. We were hung over. Now, I am short. 5'6". At the time, I was all chest, NOT a runner. But, my SGT and I were goofing off, and playing catch up to everyone in front of us. I think we finished 4th in the company, lol. I immediately puked afterwards. Went back to our barracks, showered, ate-then probably did a ruck march, lol. #Gruntlife
I agree and disagree with what you are saying. Injuries become a major concern for commanders and when you add rucks into the mix people start getting hurt. Ultimately, self discipline is the only thing that matters. Taking the kiddes out on a five mile formation run and you go quite three miles into it. You see how people start to act when they are hurting. I am a huge proponent of Kettlebells for conditioning and fasting to build self discipline. I believe that “next war is come as you are,” if you are not ready then some dude will treat you like Ned Beatty in Deliverance. Then again I live on crayons and my knuckles drag. Our unit’s slogan was “Suffer silently, Suffer patiently.” The better shape that you are in the less you suffer.
Totally agree, the PT test is to see if you can go to combat and survive; not once you are there to see if you still can.
No criminal runs a half marathon from the crime scene, they run to the car.
@edash3397
Ай бұрын
I don’t know where you work, but I have been in several foot chases that were up to a mile. If you are a cop, you either work in a privileged precinct or you just let them go. I worked the barrio and the hood rats were fast.
I am a piece of shit and gonna start my plan Randall...thanks to you...been watching for a bit...so going on 56, working the grind since '88...but mostly sitting...kids grown...moved to acreage @ 2,300ft elevation and 400ft slope....plan is to master 15k steps daily and then add pack and weight (look, had a disrespect for body velocity vs. impacts in my youth)...next will be to increase to miles and then traverse slope...will take it slow (5'7"/200something) Thank you for a realistic approach to getting fit...you are the real deal and inspiration...thank you for your service!
Standing by it self gets your feet stronger. Especially with some extra weight
@ronaldrobertson2332
Ай бұрын
You mean standing still with your kit on, right? I don't want my physical therapist to give me the evil eye.
@zephyrr108
Ай бұрын
Im training to stand longer
Yeah, when I was 19, i was indestructible also. 1-2 miles is not endurance, 20-100 miles with a load is. The thing you said, without saying, and I've experienced and learned, is that consistency it the key endurance performance, not specificity. Daily low intensity workouts, has a far greater effectiveness than random targeted workouts. Example; 30min walk or light jog every day will build more fitness than one 10miler on a Saturday. But at the same time you acknowledge that gearing up and doing the actual hike with gear is essential. Running alone is not enough, i agree, but as a substitute (not everyone has endless amounts of free time or opportunities) running/jogging can be a good supplement. IMO.
@salted_lizard
Ай бұрын
100 miles running with load is not endurance it's suicide via rhabdo.
@traillesstravelled7901
Ай бұрын
@@salted_lizard The Phoenix must burn to emerge.
@salted_lizard
Ай бұрын
@@traillesstravelled7901 the Phoenix has no cartilage left in his knees and suffers heart palpitations.
@traillesstravelled7901
Ай бұрын
@@salted_lizard Dude, that sucks! Sounds like something went wrong. What happened? Did you receive permanent injury from rhabdomyolysis?
@salted_lizard
Ай бұрын
@@traillesstravelled7901 I'm mostly fine, I never served, but I have some slight injuries from the "go ham ruck 100 miles" mindset, I think in terms of sustainable long term fitness goals the KISS principle and the less is more attitude goes a long way, the idea everyone should try to train like they're an anime character is patently absurd even for top tier athletes. In general this current culture seems to stipulate this unhealthy obsession with being the very best at something, when all you have to do is do something consistently, get enjoyment out of it and gradually improve at it.
We ran not fast but paced 5 miles 5 days a week and got a second wind during the run not a with most of us teen soldiers the good old days RECON ☠️✌️. Not a problem 😂
Thanks for the info. Helping me to create a training routine.
So I feel like Randell messages about running are like Chriskys messages about needing a pistol
I run because I like too its a high.
@GruntProof
Ай бұрын
That's great but also get strong. Gear is heavy
Thank you for video🤝
If you got 40 to 50 lb of gear on you and you're patrolling, legs are getting stronger you're going to do good on a PT test. I do remember in the 70s having a CSM, we do our morning run and he was a stickler for running in combat boots because nobody runs in tennis shoes in combat. Then they came up with the idea of running in full LBE gear. Vivid memories
The videos youve been putting out tbis y ar have been next level. I subscribe to a lot of guys but relate to your practical view more than the rest. Keep it up man.
@GruntProof
Ай бұрын
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Had a Drill Sergeant tell me I was a pack mule, not a race horse. Best I ever did was a 13:23 in basic and I puked my guts out. Per my understanding a PT test was not required in theater and for promotion purposes they could go back 18 months for a score. Was told to do a PT test in theater and quite at the 1 mile mark because I had had a severe ankle injury about 2 months prior. I got chewed out by a E7 whose own troops happened to go on sick call that morning. When I called her out on the bs was one of several Article 15s I've been threatened with throughout my career. ✌️🇺🇸
Yeah 17min 3 mile was considered great at my unit, cant imagine going slower than that and visualizing myself as a warrior. Harder is better and exceptional should be unit standard. I love units that read the historical text and aspire to those norms, think Roman or even Mohican warriors covering great expenses to deliver defeat after defeat upon their enemies. God bless the American Republic 🙏 may it have a great revival and prosper many millions more citizens.
Great video buddy
I tend to agree about running in shorts and tennis shoes. In my day we ran in fatigue pants, boots and issue T-shirt on crushed charcoal rinning tracks. My best was 14:26 for the 2 miles. Everyone was covered in soot, even out tounges were black. This was Fort Dix in August 1980. I do think that the Airborne Shuffle in boots over a dirt track will benefit as boots are heavy - especially 8” duty boots back then with those funky tire tread soles. I personally found that the Airborne Shuffle while singing cadence helped my breathing tremendously!
You had a CSM with a weak Col with nothing better to do. The one time I took a pt test while deployed. Wad on Peace Keeping OPs in Bosnia.
@GruntProof
Ай бұрын
Yea that's 99% of the upper leadership
@Vule34
Ай бұрын
Sadly this is the case and many of them never think outside the box.
I talked with a captian in the army the other day, said im in the homeguard since i cant run anymore "bad knee", he scoffed and said just this, Why the fk do soldiers need to run for? seems like everybody knows thats its stupid to run and base "fitness" on it when the ability to walk with gear matters more.
When I was in the best shape of my life (in the army). The apft was a joke. Getting a max was easy. Where you get the real training is during rucking, carrying ammo cans for distance, flipping tires, burpees, pushing that up-armored humvee while carrying sand bags, and actual training (my deployment experience doesn't really count, it was a vacation compared to garrison life). Now that I'm out, I go on hikes with a pack, lift weights and for extra cardio it's the stairmaster and sprints. Running is cool, but let's be real it isn't the best overall indicator of fitness.
All my best APFT run times were done at places where we were sea level. I live in the mountains of Utah.
I agree carrying weight is a different level of cardio but I will say for me I have to run to run fast. I will say that having strong legs and being used to carrying that weight for a long time helps
Say it again, I love it❤ "tenny shoes"
I like to say you build functional strength being fully strong, like a body weight activity. Or being able to lift moderately heavy things for a living all day
Depends where you are , we rotated to the main big base in Iraq and hell yeah I ran there, great stress reliever
It sounds like Gruntproof got hooked on his PT test because he was in a combat zone and didn't realize it.
Running didn't happen unless ambush, or firefight. Otherwise lots of observant, careful walking.
As an aspiring professional athlete, I intuitively had this belief very young: If I play my sport all day, I will get in shape to play my sport, and there's no need to do anything else. Not only did we play our sport all day, but we played other sports as well. There was no need to do other kinds of training, but of course our coach wanted us to run lines, do jumping jacks and other kinds of garbage which was honestly counterproductive because then we were tired for the actual sport and couldn't perform as well.
@GruntProof . When I was in Iraq, my unit had us do a PT test in a combat zone. I too that it wasn’t common sense since we were in a combat zone doing our jobs.
1977. Kabul, Afghanistan. The day after my 31st birthday, I have to walk the Khyber Pass to Parkistan. It is the only way of leaving. No push ups, no sit ups, no running for years. No problem. I am as fit as the migrants I see in the camel caravans, but not as fit as the people who walk over the mountains instead of through the pass so that they avoid people. If you own a dog and take it for a walk twice a day, you are probably good to go. If you construct your own gym outdoors at home (southern CA) and skip the traffic jam on the way to the paid membership gym and fighting to get on a machine, you are doing well. You can do 15 minutes of the daily workout, then do something in the house. Come back out and do the next exercise. Your video on prepping for every day stuff - comment. 09/11/2001. I have to go to a meeting. My car was already prepped so that if I were stranded away from home, I could go to ground in place for a week, and never have to return home. I timed it and gave myself 15 minutes to figure out anything else I wanted to take to the meeting. 2024. Every day prep. Same. Whenever I leave home, other than on a walk, I have a pad of paper, a pen, and a book. You are going to be on someone else's schedule - whether you have to sit in a waiting room, wait for a store to open, wait for the promised car repairs to finish. Don't use your cell phone. This is the time that you have alone time to do planning that you write out. This is the time to focus on reading so that you improve your skills. You make lists of what you need to do and the priorities. What the Grunt knows is that proper planing leads to performance. Otherwise, you never have the time away from the phone, from people intruding on your time and space.
@Gruntproof Love that Lynyrd Skynyrd shirt.!!
Truth.
You were deployed. They changed the times to give you confidence 🤣
I had a 12:40 2 mile. My first test. Not doing that these days lol.
What up Randall
Will this training still make you able to run distance if you need to? What is your BPM?
I'm gonna chuck in a cheeky outlier to stir up some poop throwing. You're a pilot of some kind and..... Come on we've seen the movie.
Dude, I love your channel. But you couldn’t be more wrong. Long distance running is how you condition your body to flush lactic acid from your muscle fibers over long periods of time. But don’t take my word for it, maybe take a peek at a couple of decades of research.
@chaoticdeertick7213
Ай бұрын
and there is a lot more to life and preparedness than rucking.
@MattyP3789
Ай бұрын
@@chaoticdeertick7213 Yep! Marksmanship, CQB, patrolling, stalking, sniping, ambush theory and execution, land navigation…just to name a few. IMO, this channel does them all really well.
Ok, ok, I give up on the click bait. But you pick sings up and put zem down. Ill run all around town. And zen you vill neva catch me. 😅😅😅
Walking and rucking is all you need .cardio is overrated
@Appalachias_Son
Ай бұрын
Cardio is king 🤴
Did more sprinting under fire than running any distance. Sprinting while wearing battle rattle instead of running. Time to toss out the outdated 1950 fitness and height weight standards. Now if your in the French army, keep running.😂🤣😂🤣😁