It's more of a collectors car. They are definitely worth that much, but the average buyer isn't going to want it.

@CheesusSVT

11 ай бұрын

Well said. Well said.

Of all Mustangs ever made THIS is the one to still obtain and commands the most respect. Say the name Cobra and someone will either say “Supercharged?” or “Terminator?” People can say what they want; 03-04 Cobras will only continue to increase in value, especially if they’re in the condition of these two. People back then didn’t know what they had and people today will make the same mistake.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. People in the future will say I had one back in the day and wish I kept it.

Not everyone would consider a tuned car near stock if they don't trust the person who tuned it, the top dollar buyers probably want a factory stock car..

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

I agree. And I'm just saying that because it's a very minor modded car. Can speak for my cars and the tuner. But I do agree with you

Its worth what people are willing to pay you at the time youre selling it. Thats it. Put your pirce up and see what happens - maybe someone agrees with you on value - time will tell. Youll only need ONE person to agree who has cash

You don't need the world to agree , just need one . Anytime I take my cobra out for a drive I get offers. 16 ,10,20,25,30 grand $

I bought my 03 cobra in 2020. listed for 18k bought it for 14.5k and i remember at the time being like ugh is this worth it? i knew they were doing for 20k or so so i decided to jump on it. fast forward to 2023 and i see the prices now and realize i would never be able to afford one for what they go for. while i love the car to death i really can’t picture spending much more than i did. it’s only pullied exhaust and tuned but i really still feel like i’m in my foxbody when i drive it. just glorified a bit. i see these guys spending 30k+ for really nice examples and am mind blown. but at the end of the day they have a lot going for them they’re gorgeous cars, they’re a factory forged engine, there’s such low build numbers per color and only being made for two years will always hold some good value. I also widely disagree when people compare them to coyote cars, yes performance is better but i see 100 of them a day and they’re a dime a dozen. rarity is a big factor for the terminators. every. single. time. i go for a ride or get gas someone holds me up to ask a few questions.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

I hear you on that. It's hard to say how high they will go but its even hard to find a nice fix for under 15k now with nothing done to it. I love the foxes and plan on buying another but know I'll be paying for it when I do

@CheesusSVT

Жыл бұрын

☺Great comment.

@Illest1887

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! There are So many older cars that demand a way higher premium. I mean some you can’t by without engines for less then 10k? What about the notchback fox body and the premium they bring in a nice example? That kind of example ( FoxBody ) being a thing makes me say for some reason it’s clear that some folk just don’t like the 03-04 cobra. In It’s on right it’s just as much a classic as anything else that’s considered a classic.

@midnight347

7 ай бұрын

If you are only pullied then you don't understand the true potential of these cars. Then I can understand why you don't see it as being worth much more than 14500. Modern blower and fuel system you can do 800+ just like coyotes do just as reliably (if not even more so, these have better rods than coyotes). They can all make huge power with little effort. It comes down to styling and driving experience. Do you want the s550 style and soccer mom driving experience with a gay auto or do you want a terminator style with a raw notchy 6 speed manual and a deeper meaner sound more old school in every way aka a "muscle" car. It's more about that than choosing one or the other for performance reasons either can do 800-1000 wheel on stock bottom end.

@midnight347

7 ай бұрын

​@@Illest1887I think most of them just don't have a clue how badass a terminator is and what kind of power they can make with minimal effort even being 20 years old. They just see a 390 hp rating (which is total bs more like 430) and judge it by that and not what it's capable of with mods. Funny thing is the same guys argue for the 5.0 by talking about what it's capable of with mods. Just because it's older they don't like it. They're too panzy to drive a fast cobra anyways. Guys like that belong in modern autos only they can't handle anything else.

Drove both an '03-04 Terminator and a Mach I back in the day when they were new, and both are deserving of their status as high-value collector cars. The Mach I wasn't quite as quick as a Terminator, but it was no slouch and a heck of a lot of fun to drive with that bog old shaker hood scoop and aggressive exhaust note. I ended up liking it almost as much as the 03-04 Cobras. Alas, the financing fell through at the last minute, so I didn't get to own either one... but the haters of the 03-04 Terminators are kidding themselves if they think these legendary cars are going anyplace but up in value. If you want one and are prepared to pay 50K or less only, then you'd better get moving, because they're already pushing north of that figure.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

I'm a huge fan of the Mach 1. . Would love to get my hands on a azura blue one. Such a good looking car

@midnight347

7 ай бұрын

You can get them way less than 50k even for a lower mileage one. Just because some no mileage rare color went for north of 50 don't mean they all do.

I’m a new edge guy. The 03-04 Cobra Terminator is iconic and just knowing what kind of connecting rods they used made them extra special. F them if they don’t get it, either they don’t understand enough or they aren’t cool enough to get it, yet. I’ve been daily driving new edges the past decade and they got no attention and all the hate. I kept driving them and building them, now I see them starting to pop up on the street again. I don’t get a pre war car being worth $15 million but that’s how it works.

@midnight347

7 ай бұрын

No it's because they say you can get new coyotes for similar price even though they're dime a dozen and tame compared to a cobra. I'm not talking about performance numbers I'm talking about actual driving experience. They're tame compared to terminators especially an auto one. It's not even in the same league as a terminator far as driving experience. They're dime a dozen and played out. They're on every street corner. Anyone who doesn't understand has no place near a terminator to begin with.

You are a very lucky person take care of the cars they will be future classics for sure

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Definitely appreciate that 🙏

@keithdillard9363

Жыл бұрын

Oh I am just curious how much would a 2007 or 2008 Shelby go for with about 10 to 30,000 miles go for?

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

@@keithdillard9363 I'd say right there with the 03 or maybe a tad more

Comes down to this. A bone stock coyote (under $40k with a warranty) would wax a stock Termi. What makes the Termi cool is the blower/irs/t56, but it is at the end of the day an SN95 chassis and puts power down poorly. That being said it is one of my favorite sn95 cars made, but it isnt worth more than 25k unless it is one of the rare low production number colors or it just speaks to you. Especially since this one has been modded and is simply black, the value is lower. With all the stock components installed it could bring closer to what you ask easy, but its a tough sell bc for a few dollars more you get alot more mustang in a new one, just a crappy transmission lol. Gorgeous stable btw.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

I hear you. The coyote car is amazing, I'm definitely a fan myself, but if you take a 20yr old coyote they won't hold the value like these are. It's totally nostalgia I get that. But the car is sold and went up to Mississippi sold for 34k.

@redneckrebelzracing2891

Жыл бұрын

@@chris_03svt I agree with that. The way that the Termi's and the Mach 1 stick cars are holding value is shocking. The Terminator was so far ahead but only went for 35-40k new, I'm sure a few dealers marked up the limited number cars especially the Mystic's. Nothing touched them for awhile in the performance realm either. It was like like Ford finally gave us the mustang that should've been. Granted it was known for being kinda sketchy, but what mustang isn't? 😂

@ThompsonPerformace

Жыл бұрын

I don’t know where you got your info but a stock cobra vs a stock coyote is basically dead even they both run bottom 12s bone stock.

@redneckrebelzracing2891

Жыл бұрын

@@ThompsonPerformace My info comes from the racetrack, and the street. Never seen a stock terminator get anywhere near a stock coyote a10, period. There's almost a half second difference. The cobra usually run bout a 12.4-12.6 stock, the 5.0/a10 hit about a 12.10-12.20.Personally I would probably take the Termi for myself because I love the raw unhinged nature of that car but I know in reality those coyote 10 speed cars are gonna ultimately win because of all the traction/stability control nannies.

@wheremypeeps

Жыл бұрын

That’s like saying a rare 67 Shelby isn’t worth 6 figures. These cars are slowly becoming more rare. It isn’t about performance 💯💯

Those ambers are selling for nearly $2k which is nuts in my opinion 😂 I’d spend 30k on a terminator but that’s about my max These 2 cars are great examples

Haters will say it’s too much because they want one and can’t afford one! These cars are extremely special! They’re not considered the supras of domestic cars for nothing! Even people in super cars know that there’s a chance they might get smoked by one of these because most of them are making north of 700-1000hp and being street/daily driven

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't have said it better. These cars were and still ate game changers in the car scene. Ford made these cars absolutely right and they still turn heads everywhere they go. Appreciate the input man. For real

@CheesusSVT

Жыл бұрын

Well said @Petrol Head

@midnight347

Жыл бұрын

I mean I hate that they cost what they do because otherwise I'd probably end up in one. I can't justify paying the money they go for to get one. I'm not a collector I like driving and modding my cars. If they were at the price they used to be 5 years ago I would get one. With that said I'm not a "hater" on the pricing they should get whatever they can get for it. It just puts it out of reach for someone like me not because I "can't afford it" I just can't justify paying 37000 for a 2003 cobra because I remember when they were new and didn't cost that much. But I know supply and demand and they're worth what someone will pay and somebody will pay 37000 for it it just won't be me.

@petrolhead8851

Жыл бұрын

@@midnight347 but that’s what collectors cars are all about! That’s what makes a car special! It should of been obvious to anyone like you that these cars would have gone up in price every other year because of how they were built and what they were meant to do (take out the competition) and it did! The terminator will literally be the car that made a bold statement to Chevy in the 2000’s and accomplished its mission. The fact it’s going up in price is a good thing! It just means you should get one while you still can! Because these will be worth much more in the future! Look at the mk4 supras, they never stopped rising in value, now they’re worth over 100k and the terminator cobra is gonna be the next 100k late model mustang just watch and see..there’s no need to justify anything, either get it and cherish it for the history and value or don’t get it and miss out on it, because mark my words, down the road this car won’t be attainable for shit and then you will really bitch about how you can’t justify buying an older mustang no pun intended

@coltoncaskey5781

Жыл бұрын

Disagree I own one and if someone pays 50k+ for one of these their simple crazy. If someone pays 37k for the black one in this video they’re CRAZY. The interior on these cars are TRASH. Idc how much I love the engine and how pretty the car looks it’s a mustang for the early 2000’s🤣.

What everyone seems to forget saying they are overpriced, roll down the road with a borla stinger terminator and you're turning heads everywhere, drive an overly loud new 5.0 and people think you're a mexican or a ricer. Love my terminator wouldn't trade it for any new mustang

You don’t buy a 03/04 cobra because it’s a better value or it’s better than a new GT etc. The people that have these cars are diehard mustang people and to them and to me as well, it is the most special SVT car made. A 03 cobra is an absolute icon, and clean examples will be worth big money. I have a near perfect 04 cobra wi th 34k miles. I’d never sell it for anything close to 25k.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree with that. It's a pureist car for sure. Not your run of the mill car.

Terminator Cobras are only going to go up higher in price haha. These cars are sick. Extremely reliable and can make killer power.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

For real have owned them since 2009 and haven't seen them fall at all.

Terminators are special cars and quality examples get that money and will only appreciate more. Beautiful cars you have

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . Definitely appreciate that. And I agree, these cars are abs special and changed the mustang game when they came out.

I’ve had my terminator for 19 years and I’ll never sell it. They have definitely held their value. I also have a Shelby gt350 so I have new and old for different things.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

I'm looking for another car and the gt350 and the gt500 are high on my list

@svtpower03

Жыл бұрын

@@chris_03svt I love my 350 it’s an awesome car. I sold my foxbody to get it and don’t regret it. Now I have a car that’s fast straight and one that’s fast in turns

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

@svtpower03 I was also thinking the Mach 1 . Kind of why I want one. Good corner car

@svtpower03

Жыл бұрын

@@chris_03svt if you get a Mach make sure it’s a handling pack version. Without that it’s a GT with a good trans in it

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

@@svtpower03 oh absolutely. That's the only reason why I would get one.

I’m one of the guys you’re talking to in this video, so here’s my take: Mustangs are considered great because of the performance value they offer. You get a lot of engine, and not much else, for a little bit of money. As the price creeps up on one of your 20 year old cars, the value proposition starts to fade. Do you know how much car you can get for $40,000? How about a brand new Mustang GT with a Coyote 5.0L V8 that can run circles around a stock Terminator. And if you’re not a dyed-in-the-wool Mustang enthusiast, these cars make even less sense. It’s a collector item, not a competitive daily driver like it was when it was new.

@ancientalien5752

Жыл бұрын

new GT wont run circles around a Terminator but ok

@Babyaliennnnn

Жыл бұрын

@@ancientalien5752a 10r would gap

@Voodoo_HG

Жыл бұрын

Ive seen terminator for 26k with like 30k miles

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

OK yes and no. For example a grand national. Car made something like 245hp but today a clean one is going for more than a 03 cobra easy. That car is legit a brick driving down the road. Compare that to a newer car. The new gt is an awesome car but even a base gt with no options you're paying over 40, drive it off the lot and it immediately depreciates. This is a collector car and should only increase in value. I know of 7 of them in my area and see 2k gt on a daily bases just driving around. The cobra imo is a much better buy just based on retaining value and rarity.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

@Voodoo_HG yeah you can. They need paint work or it's a convertible.

People who don’t have money are probably the ones who are jealous of your car and asking price

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I think that's the deal.

You can get them all day long at dealerships for 40 stock with hardly any miles on them. And unfortunately they are valued more stock than with mods. Collectors want all original, stock. Being modded only lowers the value.

@chris_03svt

Ай бұрын

I haven't really seen any of these at dealers. One reason is they are harder to finance. And you're right the stock ones will bring more to that client but there are also buyers who want a turn key car and to them a car will be more valuable already done. But at the end of the day the buyer will pay what they want regardless.

Totally agree bro. I have an 04 TR vert and a year ago these were selling for over 30k. Now they are mid upper 20’s... I say give it another year or so and values will go back up. There’s less and less of these cars every year as people have wrecked/totaled them over the years.

They don't think they're worth $20k because they look at the cobra and don't see a cobra, they look at the cobra and see a cheap mustang with a body kit and an exhaust. These are the kinds of people who never got proper ass whooping

@CheesusSVT

Жыл бұрын

😅

@ironpanther2420

Жыл бұрын

You can still get LS1 F-bodies for $10k that'll hang with them. And Cobras are literally cheap Mustangs with body kits and exhausts that have independent rear suspensions and overcomplicated, underpowered engines. Oh, but you have a supercharged 4V Mustang? The LS2 GTO would like a word with you. There is always a bigger, cheaper fish.

@codymachado

Жыл бұрын

​@@ironpanther2420yeah but gtos have wild prices now too though

@SCHMALLZZZ

9 ай бұрын

​@@ironpanther2420My LS2 is not as reliable as my 4.6 that's for sure. It needed a rebuild at 60k.

As a mustang owner I understand that almost any mod done with only a few exceptions is pretty much a wash or will depreciate its value...if resale was in your future I'd avoid Frankensteining IMO or at least be prepared to take a hit.

Always wanted a terminator growing up! And to this day still planning on getting one ! Super clean rides!! Gwls!!

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely worth the wait. These cars are amazing

I won’t say they aren’t worth it but you can get a low mile s550 for similar money. That is a hard sell for some but if you want the exclusivity the cobra is the way to go.

Been looking for something like this, either an older corvette or this body style mustang, i must say yours is very clean

Oh, a new channel to watch. 🤠👍Nice Cobras man! Appreciate you taking time to film. My thoughts for the low ballers, "More than you can afford pal." These cars are a huge value, especially in todays market... Especially ones that were owned by enthusiasts that understand these cars and know how to take care of them. 😎

@CheesusSVT

Жыл бұрын

I do feel that people hate on the prices because most people can't just walk into a bank or credit union and get it financed... I can understand their frustration to a degree, but does not make the car worth any less. Cobras are still relevant today and have way more cool factor than mostly everything in my opinion. 😂👍

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. It's a little harder to get a loan for these but again it's not like buying a old viper for 20k more than this. Appreciate that. I'll be putting more Content asap brother

@Json.-

Жыл бұрын

@@CheesusSVT yep

People are asking 40k in Canada

Reliability, practicality, beauty, strong engine and tranny set up from factory! This thing can be turned into a 800hp daily driver all day...Add NOS and its game over!!! Grab one of these before they hit 100k+ FACTS !!!!!!!

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Nicely said man. The potential on these cars are pretty amazing. Appreciate the input brother.

For almost $40k, that is mystic cobra prices.

@chris_03svt

11 ай бұрын

A 29k mile mystic coupe would be definitely be in the 50's

if it gets stolen or totaled that's when your screwed at 37K that just the reality of it until is insurable as a true classic

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Hagerty will let you insure for market value not kbb or insurance value

Absolutely love cobras, but they are not worth remotely close to what these people think. Covid made everything go up. Prices will absolutely go down.

I've been building my terminator for several years now. Didn't know if I should sell it or not. Mine has a one off handmaid wide body by kindig-it designs and twin turbos. I wonder what it would sell for

@MistaaFrosty

Жыл бұрын

wide body? damn shame.

I understand both sides. A cobra is a cobra. Doesn’t need an introduction but also we have the coyote engine which is an absolute beast of an engine. You have the upgraded everything interior, suspension etc. 37 grand for a cobra or you can spend a little more and get a 2015 hellcat. I’m not a fan of hellcats at all but I would still probably pick the hellcat. It’s the better buy for the price.

Well I actually have a thread posted on SVTP in regards to this actually. I’ve seen a bunch of KZreadrs who are just selling these off, when maybe a year or so ago they were being bought in mass. I would say generally a car is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. I think the people who will say your asking price is too much would say it was $34k or so new in 2003 and 2004. Even as you had stated, I say generally. They were made for 2 years, so in itself it’s not very common to see them. Even in my thread we talk about for the price of these cars is it worth to buy a 03/04 or buy a C6 Z06. Even some cobra owners in there agree they’d probably buy a Z06. The 03/04 cobras have a cult following, most of us know this. They were ahead of their time. I can agree you can get a newer GT, and such for about the same money with newer technology, and creature comforts. I’d say the same thing about the MK4 Supras. They’ve got 300 ish HP, but they’re fetching six figures for clean ones. It’s about nostalgia for most of us. The ones who saw this car come out when you were younger, and always wanted one. I’m with you in that sense. I’ve also got two 03 cobra coupes. One with 19k miles OW coupe, and a black coupe that I bought to drive and enjoy. I do also have a 2013 GT500, and a 2016 hellcat charger. They all do certain things well.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Wow man. It's definitely a good class of cars you have. So I'm in that same perspective. I love my cobra but also eventually want a z06 but wouldn't sell mine to do it. Having mine for 10 years now, I can't just sell it. My kids were little and riding around with me everywhere. But the Supras, grand nationals, rx7, etc all have a following and I remember buying my 1st 03 cobra. Took me 2 years but tried non stop and haven't looked back since.

@danieldaugherty7402

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate that. A couple of us cobra guys were gonna do a cruise. I know murdersvt lives down towards you. I live in Sarasota, so I’m about hour and a half away from you guys. We should get a group photo and such. Keep doing what you’re doing man. Love the Redfire, I miss mine.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

@LS WUT oh man yeah let's set some up. There is about 8 of us where I live and they would be up for that. And thanks I appreciate that. She's not going anywhere. Love that car to much

@atruegotbucketzz1640

Жыл бұрын

What do you do?

@danieldaugherty7402

Жыл бұрын

For work you mean?

My father once told me, "something is worth whatever someone is willing to pay". I believe i slightly overpaid for my termi, but i got the one that i was hunting and wanted. List it for sale for whatever you want, its yours to do with. Regardless, they're beautiful!

@chris_03svt

9 ай бұрын

Totally agree. Car sold shortly after the video. Definitely went to a good home. Glad you got the one you wanted to bro

If you had to choose between this, a v1 ctsv or g8 gxp/Chevy ss which route would you go.

I bought my second 2004 (I own two) Mach 1 last year for $25k with 66,500 miles on it. Very clean car. It has the “Cobra Crusher” 2.9L Whipple (conservative tune for 91, 14lbs of boost), BBK long tube, BBK X pipe, Borla ATAK catback, the engine (OG aluminum block) has been built with a stroker kit, balanced and blueprinted. It has the aluminum driveshaft, built rear end (diff/axle shafts etc have all been replaced with better components), 3.90 gears, it has an MGW shifter for the OG 3650 (that still survives even though the car was built for abuse and is an NMRA car). The original interior is present and in great shape. The previous owner did replace the original spoiler with a genuine 03 Cobra spoiler (painted Matte Black as a Mach 1 should be) and the front bumper cover is an original 99-01 Cobra piece. Considering the low mileage for such an old car, the collectibility of the 03-04 Mach 1’s (I have the FoMoCo certificate for both of my Mach 1’s) and the fact that over $25k was invested in the build of the car through the years I felt that paying $25k for the car was actually a steal. The previous owner is a retired USAF F35 engineer and was VERY meticulous when building this car. It dyno’d (on a DynoJet at Premier Performance in SLC) at 717rwhp/663tq on 91. I say all that to chime in and say that I don’t necessarily think $37k for such a clean low mileage Terminator is all that bad. Price is something that is all in the eye of the beholder. While someone will say $37k is way too much because of X, Y and Z…..there will still be someone who feels the price is fine. Sure, can you buy an S550 GT on the used market for $37k? Sure. Will that S550 GT be a Terminator? No. It will not. Likewise, some folks would feel that $25k for my Mach 1 was too much, that’s fine, as I said I feel it was priced well and was glad to pay cash for it. My other Mach 1 is a case of “I got to save it” type of project car. It is also a 2004 but it has 130k on the odometer and is all stock. The previous owner just drove it, not much maintenance to speak of. I got it for $12,500 from a local big Jeep dealership.

I see your side of course to a degree. I have a 96 Mystic Cobra with 19k miles and a '04 Mystichrome Cobra with 76k miles. Paid $13k for the '96 4 years ago and $18k for the '04 3 years ago. Sorry to say but I could never see myself paying for what people are asking for the 03/04 cobras. Rollers alone over $10k-$12k?!?!?! 100k miles 03/04 cobras going for $20K+?!?! When Ford dealerships are offering 700+ horsepower NEW mustangs for $40k-$50k with warranty. Then those used 700+ horsepower ones from the pervious years selling for $20k-$30k with sub 50k miles. During the pandemic prices on all used cars went up. For some reason a handful of cars went up more dramatically then others just because certain owners were forced to sell by their wives because possible finical situations. So the guys post it up for sell with the " wife is making me sell it but i don't know why it won't sell honey " price. Asking $10k-$15k over which then other cobra owners saw and said " well dam is that how much I can sell mine for " and started a chain reaction.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

i hear you but i never buy a car for a warranty and i think most people mod their cars and like me void them right away. A new GT base is 40k and right now will depreciate as soon as you leave the lot. Its understandable most people dont have 40k laying around for a car so financing is an option for the new stuff. Just like the supra MK4 , thosre are fetching big money because of the following they have and these cars have the same imo. Not to any die hard GT guys if that makes sense.

@AaronDower

Жыл бұрын

You pretty much wont have a option in a few years. Once only EV are made the price of ICE stuff is going to soar.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

@@AaronDower I couldn't imagine what car prices will go to if that actually goes through

Really clean low mile terminator with a good history is now a collector car that as you said holds value. The only people hating on the price are those who are looking to buy one to flip, or someone cheap who wants to get into the platform to modify it.

@chris_03svt

5 ай бұрын

Totally agree. People always bashing the platform on these cars but when I bring up other cars like a grand national or cyclone they don't have a reply. I am a huge fan of those cars and would love to buy one but the reality is they are a classic and that's what you're buying not the performance aspect of those cars. But back in the day they were on top

There badass but for 37k most people would buy a more modern Mustang

Clean, stock, low miles, good condition. Thats what the collectors look for. If its really clean, you arent being unreasonable.

I agree and that’s a good example and point I have a magazine and there’s a terminator that goes for 50 or 30 whatever if it’s built or garage kept

Super nice cars man! The black one is my favorite one 🙋

There was a 74k mile Sonic Blue with a 2.3 whipple and supporting mods with chrome CCW beadlocks making 620whp that just sold 2 weeks ago for either $30k or high 20's....I don't remember exactly. *It was gone in like 3 days lol. There's also a nasty 25k mile satin silver that was just posted today for $31,500. 710whp, 3.4L Whipple and everything under the sun done to it besides a built bottom end it seemed. Makes sense to keep it if you've had it for so long and really enjoy it, but the reality is that a highly modified one with decent miles TYPICALLY won't bring more than a stock or nearly stock low mileage car. It is what it is.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

I'm familiar with that silver car. Had a bad back story, paint isn't as nice as said to be and was ran for a while with a bad tune. Also has like 8 plus owners. But I get it. Even if i sold the red car for 35plus I'm still losing money

@nickadkins7765

Жыл бұрын

@@chris_03svt for sure. Blue one was legit though. I just heard the silver one has prior odometer issues. Regardless last year would've got you $40k. Today though, it would be hard to get close to that IMO. Enjoy her!

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

@@nickadkins7765 absolutely. Miles will only go up on mine. She's definitely fun to drive around.

@AaronDower

Жыл бұрын

Thats just for cars in general. Closer to stock the more $ it will bring in over time.

People don't know what they have for a motor in a Terminator. ALL FORGED INTERNALS! Just needs bolt ons. Incredible bang for your buck

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Oh exactly. And it's funny how people say they are outdated because of the computer. But a simple upgrade on that and sky's the limit

In 2004, I left the dealership with a brand new black Cobra, just like the one featured in your video. I had a ton of fun with that car. I was 23 and had a blast. That being said, the best part of it at that time was performance per dollar value. I was beating on much more expensive cars all the time. I bought it for just over $34k. But build quality issues began to surface, and they were seriously annoying me. That is the only reason why I dont consider these cars serious collector cars now. They were unrefined, and Ford still hadn't figured out how to build a proper IRS. Anyhow, I traded the car in after 2 years of ownership and about 30k miles as I got tired of breaking stuff and getting tickets. $37k for this- overpriced IMO. Not hating. Maybe closer to $30? But hey, it's worth what someone will pay for it! Good luck!

@chris_03svt

10 ай бұрын

Glad you were able to be lucky enough to buy one back then. It honestly sold for 34k about a month after posting it.

$24,000 in 2009 was worth it, BUT depreciation continues, it doesn't stop. The red car, $37,000 is reasonable. People buy these cars for a reason and nobody tells the next buyer the truth about how many times they beat on it. Since 2003 - 04 how many times has it been raced by previous owners?

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Having the car 10 plus years Is a plus. I do enjoy my car. Run it here and there but honestly don't beat the crap out of it either. They are great cars and a blast to drive. But you're right. It's a gamble buying an older vehicle too

In my opinion the black one would be fetching more. Stock in my eyes is worth more. That’s what I’ll be looking for next something that is more factory and not beat on (not saying your red one is). Both are great and I don’t blame you for not wanting to get rid of the red one and seeing it’s value is higher in your eyes.

@chris_03svt

5 ай бұрын

Totally I agree. If that black one was totally stock, never tuned etc I agree worth more for sure. Those are becoming extremely rare tbh.

The dollar depreciated.

awesome cars the value is great for what you are getting even more

I feel you pain,i just Sold my 30k mile triple black 04 Saleen SC.100% stock.convertible factory roll bar, rear center exhaust.,optional recaro seats, optional hood,an optional 10 inch reaer wheels brembo breaks,.5 speed car.NADA average value is like 37,500. No one wants to give that.have it for sale about 6 months, finally let it go for 25k Very disappointed.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Aww man I'm sorry to hear that. I would have just kept it. I really am a fan for those sc Saleen cars

Completely understand where you’re coming from. As a mustang owner and having heavily modifying my own, I’ve wanted a Termi for a long time. I have yet to get one. But there’s one exception, I’d rather buy a Termi that’s stock or has very little done to it that way I can modify and upgrade parts that I choose. Others may want to purchase as is and as dumb as it sounds I’d probably pay more to put a Whipple, KB or turbos on the car along with everything else, that I would actually getting when purchasing your red modified cobra. But I’d still want to buy and modify on my own rather than it all be done already. Obviously everyone is different and that’s just what I’d like to do vs. buying one already modified.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Totally understand that. I like doing my own work as well and my own mods. But some people want turn key cars etc. I also prefer stock cars too. Even if I sold the molded car for 40kplus I'd still be out money. Funny how people don't get that

@jettamustang

Жыл бұрын

@@chris_03svt you’re pretty much out on money unless you buy something rare like a 2000 Cobra R for example. You can buy a stock ‘98 Cobra (higher mileage knowing you’re going to go all out on it), completely add MM suspension, build motor up and dump tons of money into it and you’ll never make back what you put into it. Just the nature of the beast when it comes to adding performance to cars.

@jettamustang

Жыл бұрын

@@chris_03svt by the way both of your Termi’s look absolutely gorgeous. 👌🏻 a close friend of mine has an ‘03 Termi, mildly modified that put down 455rwhp. Out of curiosity what is your red one putting to the wheels, I’m curious because he was thinking of having a Whipple installed as well.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

@JettaMustang good deal man. My red one has custom cams, e85 21psi on the 3.4 whipple and making 780 wheel.

@jettamustang

Жыл бұрын

@@chris_03svt awesome! That thing moves pretty good then!lol Thank you for that info!

I bought my dream car 2 months ago......760hp 3.4 crusher whipple, DSG, mint inside and out 102k on the body and 3k on the built motor. Mod list a mile long and I was apprehensive about spending that much money at the time but it was totally worth it. The few people, the poors, that drop the "😂" emoji on the ads expose themselves for not owning one, plain and simple

@chris_03svt

10 ай бұрын

I have the 3.4 as well with the crusher. Glad you got your hands in it. Definitely something to keep and enjoy. Haha I know it's kind of crazy how mad people get at the prices of these

Unfortunately, the seller usually can't dictate what the market will bear. You should never sell the red one IMO unless someone just offers you stupid money for it. I think you'd regret it forever.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

I could never sell it. I have so many memories with that car and have some big plans here in the near future.

I sold my 03 stock cobra for 14k , 143k miles wish I could find one now for $20k

I would love to have it

Two Terminators just chillin in the driveway??? Ive never been so jealous in my life 😢😂

@chris_03svt

10 ай бұрын

Haha my bad man.

very special cars only made for two yrs……forged bottom end and a blower ontop with dohc heads was a leap at the time……haters gonna hate but damn they are sick lookin and was indeed the answer to the camaro at the time……i remember a white vert locally in nc when it first came out his tag said “THE ANSR” good shit

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Very true. So much car and way a head of its time. And now still out lasting the camero once again. And honestly thats badass. Sick plate

If I had 37K I would gladly give you that. Your black 2003 Mustang Terminator Cobra is my Dream car. Beautiful Car btw!

I have an 18 G.T. Convertible and I think these cars are so cool ! They represent the zenith of Mustangs until the Shelbys came out. My neighbour had one in black, very wicked looking, these should hold their value.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

I've had 4 now and honestly super impressed with them. So much bang for your buck imo

Reason is they want it so bad but can’t swing it in right now.

These are specific buyer cars(you gotta be looking for this specific car)... these are not the typical , I want to buy a sports car today :which one should I buy..

@chris_03svt

11 ай бұрын

Very true. These cars would probably go to the guy who just wants something turn key or the other guy who is something slightly modified.

The cars are nice but anyone who buys ANY 03/04 cobra for more than 30 thousand better have a really cool reason. Those should be valued around 24,000 for an average private sale. They’re nice but not a national treasure. Good points being made for sure and car lots are influenced by the economy. It’s probably worth some ink and that’s about it. They were 33 new and modding isn’t really all that appealing. If they were in perfect condition with less than 10k miles they’d be worth 40 stock and maybe 50 - 55 with good mods.

nice Terminators! I agree with you, I wouldnt take anything Less than 45k for my CO are. Where are you in FL? im in Space coast area

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Love that color. And yeah. Over in the clear area.

Man that’s a clean and I mean clean black 04 Term, asshats are crazy if they think 37gs is a crazy amount of money for that car. Some people have no clue my guy, shit I would keep that car, but that’s just me. No offense the black car is a better car then the modded one you have. Again my that’s my opinion. Both great cars !!! 🤘🏻

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

I hear you. I'm up in the air on selling it. It's nice kind of having both tbh lol. But I love driving the whipple car. It's pretty crazy the power difference

Put it on BaT. As someone in my mid twenties the sn95 just doesnt make sense to me. S550s can be had in the low 20s these days and they sound better, the engine is engineered better as well. Termis are cool, but they appeal to a very specific buyer IMO. Usually someone thats a die hard mustang fan. If youre just looking to get into a performance car for around 40k there are better options that you wouldnt be afraid to put miles

@scottsvt9104

Жыл бұрын

Only the S550 GT350 sounds better. The Coyote does not sound better than a pushrod SBF ford or a Terminator. I own all three. But that’s my opinion. The GT s550 chassis is light years better than 94-04 chassis though. The average car buyer is better off buying a GT S550 for the money.

@19hundoc47

Жыл бұрын

The only s550 5.0 you’re getting in the low 20s has been wrecked/salvage/rebuilt or has 150k miles lol. Oh and it’ll get completely spanked by a terminator with a pulley.

@nhilist5774

Жыл бұрын

@19hundoc47 theyre in the 23-25k range with around 70k miles where I live

The inside looks the exact same as the previous model. I had a '96 and an '02. It didn't feel any different and it looked exactly the same. I really wanted to like them, but that was just hard to get past. That's just one aspect. Seth Martin says it just fine in the comments section what I have not.

@tris1047

Жыл бұрын

96 and 02 don’t look the same lmao body lines, bumpers are all different

@boomdart

Жыл бұрын

@@tris1047 I said The inside. It was the first two words of my statement. That has nothing to do with body lines or bumpers. I don't know what you thought I meant by "the inside" but I meant the interior of the car, the place you sit.

I mean you gotta pay if you want a terminator bone stock 302 hp and these cars never gets old SN95 period I love both of them I loved when u said you’ll never sell the red one it holds a special place in your heart and might I add I rather spend 20 or 30k on a cobra just to gap a 60 or 80k scat

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man. And yeah this car belongs to the family at this point. Lmao exactly. I've done it more than once in my red car. Some guys out there still have no clue about these cars

For $37,000 you can get a 07-12 GT500 especially a 11-12 GT500 being a better car Ik every way

@chris_03svt

10 ай бұрын

I don't believe you're getting a 29k mile 12 gt500 for 37k. And it's a totally different car. People spend almost 6 figures for a 67 that's redone so it's hard to compare these different models to each other. The 11-12 doesn't have the following the 03-04 does. Imo

It's "worth mid 20's", it's not going to be worth 37! It's almost 20 years old. That's why a brand new Hellcat or scat pack is much more.

@chris_03svt

7 ай бұрын

She sold for 34k about a month after the video was posted.

@djoftha213

7 ай бұрын

@@chris_03svt wow! That's amazing/great!👊 I'd love to have 1! I have a 4.6GT I'm almost done rebuilding (LT's, BMR tubular K-Member, & a racing oil pan (I forgot the brand)). I can't wait to get it done! Btw, I said that about the costs/worth, but to be clear, of course I think Stangs are worth more/hold their value better!😉👊

@chris_03svt

7 ай бұрын

@djoftha213 good deal man. Keep it going. Took me 10 years to get my redfire where it's at now. Oh I get it, I'm glad these are holding their value well but wish they were cheaper I'd love to buy another to keep it. I thi k the gt's will continue to get more collectible as time goes on like the fix has. Appreciate the feed back too brother

I'm a 'vette guy , but if I ever had a tang ,the Terminator would be it. Love that whine. New Coyote is a force to be reckoned with though.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Oh totally agree. Those cars definitely hold and make power really well. But for a 20 year old car to keep up is pretty impressive. I'm secretly a vette guy too lol

They barely were worth 20k 5 years ago. Literally grabbed a 19k mile 03 cobra for 19.5k. People are just stupid and covid market has ruined things.

Love these cars to death, I’ve owned 2 over the last 13 years but once they went over 30k I realized I can grab a condor gt500 once you get in that price range, once folks start selling them for 45k and up your in trinity gt500 price territory, overall build quality minus the internals are much better in the later years on the condor and the trinity

I bought a o4 in 2016 for 24995 from a dealer. Sold it like 6 months later for 31.

@chris_03svt

10 ай бұрын

That's good money for that long ago too.

Is this still for sale?

people who dont have the cash will always try to tell you what something is worth people with the cash who know what it is will just pull up and cash you out money talks....

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Haha I know thats typical how it goes. 🤣 but she sold for 34k a week after the video was posted

two great examples man! I think they're both almost 40k cars. good quality mods add value, and not having mods add value. 03/04 cobra is the bang for buck deluxe!!!

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that. I think for the value you get a lot of car. I've had fox body's and takes a lot of money to make them competitive. These for 1 or 2k they are animals

@beararmshunt7498

Жыл бұрын

C6 corvette is better bang for the buck, those svt's need extra 200whp keep up w anything

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

@@beararmshunt7498 funny thing is with about 2k your over 500hp wheel and buy a whipple and have 800 wheel like my red one

That is a beautiful pair of cars bro

@chris_03svt

5 ай бұрын

Thanks man. Definitely appreciate that 🙏

Kelly blue book 14k-17k with low miles.That body style isn't sought after apparently. Edit: I had the convertible in there accidentally. Hardtop is worth 17k-20k average selling price.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Kbb doesn't do much for collector cars

@No1AdrenalineJunkie

Жыл бұрын

@@chris_03svt Hagerty , collectors cars is there specialty for valuations. Says in Good condition 23k. Very close to KBB

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

@Skinny's Arm Wrestling car sols last week for 34k so they are a little off lol

@No1AdrenalineJunkie

Жыл бұрын

IMO the only guys you're going to impress with this car are guys with the same body style 2k-5k$ mustangs. Nobody is going to break their neck for a car that high schoolers with 6bangers drive essentially. When the average person looks at the car that's what they'll think.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

@Skinny's Arm Wrestling I literally get compliments on my car every time I take it out so have to disagree with you. From people my kids age to an old dude at the red light

99% of mustang owners that shit on prices for 03/04's are ppl that don't own one. Simple as that. Its mostly 2v and 99/01 cobra guys i've noticed. Mach owners are pretty chill about it.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

I agree man. Most are 2v owners or not even mustang owners. I always compare pricing to classics. They go for 6 figures now and only keep going up. Makes no sense why these cars get any hate at all

Nowhere, dealers would ask for 47k. Bet. 37 is a great price. Lucky buyer.

@chris_03svt

Ай бұрын

If it was sonic, dsg, or c.o it would definitely fetch more but I sold it a month after the video was posted

Stock sub 10k mile car is worth the number you are asking. 20k is not realistic either but I think a lower mileage, lightly modded car like this is probably closer to 30-32k. The car not having dark charcoal inserts is a detractror to some as well.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

I'm honestly a fan of the darker charcoal as well. Was thinking of picking a set up for my red car. But the car sold for 34k last week. So she's gone

@jpat99

Жыл бұрын

@@chris_03svt Congrats. Did you find that locally in Florida and flipped it or had it for some time?

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

@jpat99 the black car was a buddies. I bought it to get him money quick so he could buy another one . Only had it a short while

@scottsvt9104

Жыл бұрын

The Charcoal inserts are darker? My Terminator has the charcoal interior and it’s slightly lighter than the standard black interior.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

@scottsvt9104 theu came in the light suede and then the dark suede in 04. 03 had just the light option and maybe the parchment, bit not 100% on the parchment.

@svt garage you have a link for the sale of the car

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Sorry brother. But it sold already

👏🏼 2 o more cobras in same garage is kind a nest … lol

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Haha it's not a bad sight to walk out to

37k for 29k miles? That’s a fair price I remember 2 years ago looking at these for 30k with I believe 90k+ miles. I would say this car is the reason we have supercharged v8s with big power like the scat hellcat etc this car made a staple in high hp factory cars. Always wanted a black cobra so clean. Would choose this car over a hellcat any day super rare and historic.

I would say $40k is a better price. They are unicorns of the pony class cars and are getting more rare especially unmolested.

@chris_03svt

11 ай бұрын

Honestly couldn't agree more. I feel In a nice clean example they are getting harder to come by

I always thought Andrew should have kept his 0304 maroon cobra Terminator... I think now Andrew regrets selling that Terminator today

@chris_03svt

2 ай бұрын

What Andrew?

I don’t know about mustangs but that looks like those mustangs on OfferUp for like 3k. Your market is probably very small and niche and know their mustangs. Probably take awhile to sell, just like the corvette Z06 I didn’t know it existed until I did my depth research

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Sold in a week for 34k. Only mustang for 3k is a v6 the v8 gt's are 10k is

I disagree but agree too. It’s not just Terminators that are valuable from 99-04. My 01 SVT cobra and 03 Mach 1 are also valuable now too

I miss my Terminator. If I lived close to you I would certainly be interested.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't sell both. I'd miss my red one to much

20k for that black one ill take it

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Sold already. Got 34k for it couple weeks ago

Hold your ground on the price brother

So for the same money you can get a c6 grand sport…which is a lot more car for the money. This makes no sense

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

If that's what you like then sure. But I personally wouldn't buy a GS over my Cobra, but then again I'm bias because I love these cars.

The car is worth exactly as much as a person is willing to pay. No more, no less.

@chris_03svt

3 ай бұрын

You're not wrong

Is it sold yet?? I’m interested.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

Yeah unfortunately it did. About 2 weeks ago

I love cobras 🐍. I own 96 cobra …blacc one worth 20-22k red one 25-28k 💯 maybe even 30k

@malloycade8626

Жыл бұрын

Lol....

The red one is a bad bitch, good work bro! There is a market for these cars but it’s not your average buyers looking for them.

Terminator Cobras Only in America nice Machine love that Car❤

Classics. I remember when they came out. I had a 99 Z28 and I got SMOKED. Still, it's an older Mustang and should be bought at a value.

@chris_03svt

Жыл бұрын

I love them cars too. The z28 and the ss were nice cars back them. Buddy in high school had a nice one.