Just so this is clear. The reduction is only applied to the amount of life lost during activation, and not after. Later this video I totally forget about it, but the principles still apply. There’s a claim the firstborn in the deck to untap Rowan if needed.

@adamantlotus

10 ай бұрын

Claim the Firstborn says cmc 3 or less... Rowan is 4 cmc.

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

woops! will fix later@@adamantlotus

@adamantlotus

10 ай бұрын

@@RebellSonNo problem! I'm sure that there are similar cards that would do the same with 1 or 2 cmc.

@adamantlotus

10 ай бұрын

​@@RebellSonOkay, did some scryfalling, Wrangle is what we're looking for. It's an Act of Treason effect for 1R that specifies power 4 or less.

@ICleeeMan

10 ай бұрын

Am I dumb? ROWAN is 3 CMC. No?

Oh yeah, Rowan is one of the cards that you see and immediately know nearly everyone is going to build it. I personally look forward to necro-ing myself down to 1, activating Rowan, and staring longingly at the cards in exile after realizing my mistake.

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

OH NOOOOO

From a more casual viewpoint, Rowan is absolutely absurd with the ability to cast something like Exanguinate for X=30, and you can do it incredibly consistently! If you're paying/losing HUGE amounts of life (10+), you can also use Diabolic Revelation as the worlds most broken tutor! If you've lost 10 life, it's BB to get any 7 cards you want. She's so scary, and honestly the most terrifying part is the sheer consistency of it! A turn 2 Rowan can very easily lead to a T3 win, especially if you have something like Hex Parasite as your life sink. (Also, she makes the cards that are overcosted but make treasures to repay you into rituals with upside!)

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

I'm not sure how you could build Rowan casually, she just seems so powerful! Probably really fun tho

@bamby3144

10 ай бұрын

I agree with rebell

@MrDrewwills

10 ай бұрын

@@RebellSon She feels like the Gitrog monster. Yes, you can technically build them casually, but you have to go out of your way not to be broken.

@julianalvarez4231

10 ай бұрын

Demons would be great casually. Don't get storm shenanigans tho

@deathshop2172

10 ай бұрын

brass's bounty is essentially a 1 mana ritual for treasures equal to your lands.

Thanks Rebel! Love your deck tech/theory crafts

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoy it! I'll be making them as I get inspired by new decks!

I currently run a Vadrik deck and I absolutely love it. So when I saw this, I knew I had to make it. So excited for this commander

I love this! Been wanting to dip a toe in cEDH, & really drawn to Rakdos. Rowan & Aftermath Ob Nix look fantastic

You always make great videos! Loved the Nazgul week... A lot. I'm still sitting here hoping you do a Gandalf week covering each Gandalf!

Im always so happy when you upload love thiiiis, also amazing deck

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

THANK YOU

Awesome deck tech, love this type of content!

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

Thank you!

For the casual lists(?), Storm King's Thunder is insane with lots of mana reduction. Pet card of mine.

Brewing and building this. Sorry Anje, there's a new rakdos cEDH queen.

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

rip Anje forever stuck as the bad rakdos commander

@gunnarwuher

10 ай бұрын

@@RebellSon I love the deck, but it shall stay in 2019.

Really excited for rowan! Looking forward to brewing a casual deck with Auntie Blyte

Crackle with Rowan is the ultimate flavor win 🔥🔥🔥

As soon as I saw this card spoiled, I knew it was Gona be great… I hope ppl get interested in this and push it far…

In Izzet, Vadrik has been my go to for cost reduction storm. This gives me similar vibes while being very different. Will try it out in higher power tables I think with those big explosive spells.

@Celadil

10 ай бұрын

fellow vadrik player here, he's so good

@TeamMD0

10 ай бұрын

@@CeladilI just built a $50 Vadrik deck. It went 2-0 against a pod with a 5k atraxa deck, 1k eldrazi deck and 2 other $500 decks. I was so happy as I’m new to commander.

@Celadil

10 ай бұрын

@@TeamMD0 yeah i think mine was like 200 and threatened wins by turn 5 consistently

I feel like there are some X spells that could serve as good combo pieces or finishers but make the ad naus a bit less risky / able to go deeper. Something like Fanning the Flames can repeatedly dome people for lots, finale of promise is massive value, consume spirit kills things and gains you life, etc

I gotta tell you, I have absolutely no interest in cEDH, but I still watch these because I still feel like I can learn how to better sequence and play EDH. So thanks for doing these!

@SpectraOcean

10 ай бұрын

sorry: I find myself watching them because I ENJOY them, they're good work!

Commune with Lava seems like a fun card to put into this deck.

Hall of the bandit lord seems like something to try out. Casting and immediately tapping her seems pretty good.

When I saw Rowan, my mind immediately started whirring. Using things like Eternity Vessel let you drop low, then simply reset while keeping the mana reduction. I'd never even considered Painter's Servant, but oh boy I am now lol

This feels like a selvala deck to me with better card quality. Which sounds like a dream come true. Also less convoluted storm lines 😅

I pulled two Rowan’s one of each art style from prerelease kit 😂 I play casual commander and have a Greven deck already that’s one of my stronger ones so this’ll be an interesting include

i pulled rowan during prerelease, and even with a ~$35 deck plus card in my collection she's so nutty. its not that uncommon that ill be casting x spells for upwards of 40 playtesting on turn 5

This card seems SWEET Necropotence for 30, tap Rowan, Torment of Hailfire for x=30 OUPH

I’m thinking I’m gonna enjoy this a lot in my bruse ikra deck with the amount of life loss I have in

Has there been any updates to the list since? This actually looks so 🔥🔥🔥

Do you have insight on the choice of Commander's plate's inclusion?

I mean you can also run a sheoldred, the apocalypse for the draws because you gaining life back is a separate trigger than losing life. So you don’t really have to go down at all if she’s out. You will generally profit with sheoldred it’s unreal

@carlosmueller1276

8 ай бұрын

I have sheoldred in my Rowan deck for this reason due to the massive card draw spells and how good it synergies with the one ring . It’s a backup plan to gain back all the life lost in the turn. Then continue to dominate the board .

This dude is a great narrator. I love the deck!

I’ve been playing magic for almost 10 years (started around theros block). I wish I could figure out my personal issues with deck construction that can allow me to have more consistency in games. Mathematically I know my win ratio won’t change, I just want to make decks that have the reliability that allow me to effect games and lessen the amount of bricking. Does that make sense?

How does this compare with kriik?

So when you use Rowan’s ability does it reduce by the total amount of life you lost this turn or just the total amount you lost before you before you tapped Rowan?

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

I believe the total life you lost before you tapped Rowan. I don't believe the effect increases afterwards as you continue storming off.

Holy shit this is nuts with necro and shimmer myr. necro until you hit shimmer and painter's servant, cast spells like crazy.

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

Yeah she's really powerful with necropotence

If you’re already playing a red combo deck you’re probably playing Red Blast/Pyroblast so Painter’s Servant has some additional utility

You may be right, I may be crazy, but Rowan just might be the cEDH Eldrazi Commander I'm looking for! But seriously folks, this is the deck Necropotence wants if you're tired of playing OG Zur. I'm only partly joking, could be one part, could be both! But I do like Rowan, and I love that she makes Wheel of Misfortune pop, because that card needed a deck IMHO (I guess it has Greven too?).

I think we are forgetting Gutshot as a 3 mana reducer for 1 phyrexian mana along with Krirk

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

I actually ended up cutting Gutshot because I don't think this deck will struggle with reducing life by 3, so that card slot can be used for something else. Krrik is kind of interesting.

@TheRealRonShady1911

10 ай бұрын

Also quick question is Sheoldred and wheels viable? Because I'm unsure on the rulings of YOU drawing cards and gaining 2 life will it overly make the effect of Rowan useless?

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

I considered Sheoldred and might put Sheoldred back. The life gain won't negate the life loss, and some lifegain will be useful to not threaten your life total too much, but I don't want to play wheels here at the moment. Arming blue decks to interact with our deck more is worse than opening up more lines to win when the deck is already loaded with wincons and ways to find them. @@TheRealRonShady1911

What do you think of necrologia, are there any instant speed payoffs without emergence zone?

@lunarevel

10 ай бұрын

Lightning bolt/dual caster/saw in half is infinite bolts

my favorite thing about her is that if you can untap and retap her, the effect will stack

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

Yah I have a claim the firstborn in there as a way to give haste but also untap

@mikastrae

10 ай бұрын

@@RebellSon That's smart. Best case, it's one mana untap and worst case, it's a one mana haste enabler.

Rowan Makes it look easy. I wonder how the Will players feel 😅. I wonder what it would be like to make powerful decks around both that are meant to play against each other. Rowan uses dragons and Demons, Will use’s Sphinxes and angels.

I’m wondering about the viability of using her in the 99 due to stuff like talismans and crypt helping meet the requirement easily

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

I wouldn't play her in the 99, it feels too slow for me to take up a deck slot which is different than being in the CZ and recastable.

@bamby3144

10 ай бұрын

also how would you account for her ability in deckbuilding if shes just in the 99? Even in a tymna deck, you cant depend on getting tymna to your second main

I have thousand year elixir in this deck but get confused if I tap Rowan and then untap her with thousand year elixir then tap her again . Does the stack double or stay the same ?

@RebellSon

8 ай бұрын

I believe it doubles

i had to rewind when you said mind goblin. i was like “wait did she rlly say mind goblin or am i just stupid”

Pay all life into necropotence cast tourment of hail fire, win by t3-4?

This might be a good home for Dance with Calamity. Yet to see it played anywhere. Looks a lot different for 1 Red. Depending on your deck composition. If it’s all high cmc vs x spells. Could be a total dud or the 101st card. 🤷🏻‍♂️

cool, a reason for ad naseum prices to blow up

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

I don't imagine Ad Naus going up if other more popular decks haven't made it blow up yet

Rowan does not continue to discount mana once she has already been tapped though

How would Chromatic Orrery work with her ability? Could this make spells potentially completely free?

@1ogic948

10 ай бұрын

Not 100% sure but I’m pretty sure since her cost reduction isn’t mana you spend, orrery doesn’t apply to it. If orrery made spells cost generic that would work but it only effects actual mana you have I believe.

I see a rebel video about storm I klick the video. I am a simple man with simple needs

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

⚡️ ⚡️ ⚡️

How do you feel about heartless hidetsugu as a ritual/wincon

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

Maybe in a lower power level, that seems funny

They've done it. They've reprinted Channel.

Threaten effects to untap Rowan and double the discount don't seem terrible either.

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

Yeah the deck currently plays one Claim the Firstborn, but also has a Lightning Greaves

I will be stern scolding this

Im missing something, what is the painter/crypt interaction?

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

Painter turns all the cards in your deck red or black, now all your colorless spells are basically free with Rowan’s ability

@jgmclellan

10 ай бұрын

@@RebellSon oh sweet, ty

Rowan seems busted with cards like Pestilence and like you said Rowan makes bigger casting cost cards way better in this list

no Searing Touch? with a cost reduction 4 and birgi out you go off.

Rowan is solid yes, but here me out: Will turns Healing Salve into a ritual.

@atlasrises4

10 ай бұрын

And chaplain's blessing is even more cracked 🤣

I mean at the end of the day dinging yourself with an ancient tomb and a fetch land, tap Rowan and cast an Ad Naus for BB also is kinda fucked.

Plunge Into Darkness let's you lose life and "tutor" at the same time. Beseech the Queen can also be a free tutor for a lot of cards.

Why there no untap artifact ??

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

I don't think this deck needs more reduction. Usually you get to 3 and that's enough and your casting cost chokepoint is the colored pips. Untapping Rowan doesn't help you with that.

Strangely enough, my deck gets better with Rowan when my opponents have her out. Phantasmal Image is sometimes just better than Gilded Drake here because most people would suit her up with boots. As such, it’s really just my deck being better by something else being printed.

Fetch, shock, Ad Nauseam for BB?

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

Seems deece

Mana barbs becoming basically a mana flare for me and not for you is funny

Searching 3 cards for 2 Black mana Its really crazy xD

Mind goblin?

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

Deez 🥜

Wall of blood is the mvp in this deck

Necro down to 1, then for 1 red mana, fireball to everyone's face 😈

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

BOOM ITS RAKDOS CHANNEL

@onlywei

10 ай бұрын

Wow there must be an instant version of fireball what is it?

Idk kinda like dark Confident in this deck

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

Low key that’s kinda hot

I miss Senpai :(

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

Senpai will be back!

I honestly just hate that they made a sticker card cedh viable i really dont want to have to make this commander :( On another note, looking forward to naming my deck: Rowan, Criminal of War

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

You don't need the sticker card! You can easily replace it with a Seething Song or any other card with low color restrictions

why are they ruining the twins in the story?

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

Can't answer you there I don't even know the lore lol

And wotc noticed the format is too fast. Immagine if the didn t notice. That said i love this card very flexible. You can go big demons or big spells

Just need haste.

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

Yah I added boots in the deck but might want to consider more haste sources

i think necrologia would be good in the deck

@yngnickel

10 ай бұрын

only playable in endstep so unfortunately not!

Idk about cedh level, honestly the rakdos chainer and the new rakdos ob nix are probs way better for storming, also the new will just feels like a harder New heliod

@Hard1sh

10 ай бұрын

the sheer power of ad naus for 2 mana cant be understated. Rowan obviously needs to prove herself but all the pieces are there for some broken lines and really fast games

This is about to be an insaine reiterate commander so we can stop playing Vadrik now

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

Yall could have stopped playing Vadrik a while ago

Playing K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth in this deck is A FREE OGRE LMAO

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

I looked at Krrik and thought about it, but didn't want to compute them together. SEEMS GOOD THOUGH

Can't wait to get a proxy of this, cause that art is so weak. Seriously, why are so many card's artworks so meh? You'd think with all the hate AI art gets, they'd be trying harder to make stuff that doesn't look like it.

Generic rocks aren't rituals. Rowan only discounts black and red spells.

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

They're rituals when you have a Painter's Servant changing the color identity of your deck to red or black.

@colinfowler3021

10 ай бұрын

@@RebellSon my bad, I missed that part.

@RebellSon

10 ай бұрын

@@colinfowler3021 it’s ok I didn’t explain it clearly! I’ll try to call stuff like that out more