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  • @TihetrisWeathersby
    @TihetrisWeathersby26 күн бұрын

    She didn't fear him, She recognized his recklessness and the size of Vhagar

  • @AniSwiftTVRecaps

    @AniSwiftTVRecaps

    26 күн бұрын

    No this is wrong, she didn't fear him but she did fear losing her sons in the conflict. An ongoing theme throughout fire and blood is that she never fought with syrax because she had to always stay to protect her sons but also because she never fought with syrax she ended up losing all her sons since at the moment she died she would have believed that all of them are fine except aegon who she would presume would follow after her. Her best trait was she loved her sons and her worse traits were that she loved her sons. If she left them with the guards at Kingsland when she ruled and mounted syrax she would be alive, if she rode after the ships on syrax after her sons were ambushed she would have gotten back her kidnapped son. If she did anything with syrax she would have maybe won. I mean look at sunfyre he is a baby dragon like 3 years older than moondancer who was barely big enough to ride and he carried aegon to victory saints the blacks killing 2 dragons 1 being fully grown and entire armies in the process plus he did most of those things while injured and thought to be on the brink of death

  • @LotsofLisa

    @LotsofLisa

    25 күн бұрын

    I just commented that Vhagar isn’t a total package. Yes she’s big and been to war, but she’s old and frankly enormous, which makes her less agile, and slower, she had to sneak attack to successfully hit her target/make her kill.

  • @lucasoliveira8386

    @lucasoliveira8386

    25 күн бұрын

    And who was vhagar,s knight?

  • @user-cr5lh3wu7f

    @user-cr5lh3wu7f

    25 күн бұрын

    I hate when women plug bs emotions into a book they didn’t write yes she was scared stfu

  • @tanman49

    @tanman49

    23 күн бұрын

    @@LotsofLisaexactly. And the rouge prince knew all your points you just mentioned. He wasn’t afraid of none of those dragons.

  • @psevdhome
    @psevdhome26 күн бұрын

    "Was afraid" Accurately assesses that the Blacks only have a theoretical advantage, not a real one in a full dragons v. dragons fight so she doesn't do it. She correctly reasons that at this stage the risk of losing all is too great and does not go to battle head on for no reason. Reason is the opposite of fear.

  • @Ihat31di00ts

    @Ihat31di00ts

    26 күн бұрын

    Wow, couldn't have said it better

  • @malachisanford2314

    @malachisanford2314

    26 күн бұрын

    She had an absolute advantage, but she wasted it. If all of her dragons had attacked vhagar at once she would have died. At most she would have brought done one of the blacks

  • @clayandros2038

    @clayandros2038

    26 күн бұрын

    ​@@malachisanford2314 ah yes they all should have just attacked Bhagat and all the other dragon riders would just ignore this

  • @psevdhome

    @psevdhome

    26 күн бұрын

    @@malachisanford2314 Well I disagree with your analysis and trust the analysis of the life-long dragonrider from this universe and her dragon-rider husband who fought a decades long war with dragons and was married to the previous rider of said dragon so he knew it pretty well. I think not.

  • @mridstaid414

    @mridstaid414

    26 күн бұрын

    bruh use your brain. This is a clickbait.

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly199725 күн бұрын

    Rhaenyra wanted all the dragons to still be alive to be passed down to future Targaryens. I’ll give her credit for thinking in the long term.

  • @edgarrojas5060

    @edgarrojas5060

    24 күн бұрын

    She didn't think about that when she didn't do anything to save the dragons in the Dragonpit or when she sent two dragons to kill Daeron and Tessarion, she didn't care about the dragons, only the throne.

  • @bugcatcherjacky1334

    @bugcatcherjacky1334

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@@edgarrojas5060I wonder, why didn't she do anything for the dragonpit dragons?

  • @edgarrojas5060

    @edgarrojas5060

    20 күн бұрын

    @@bugcatcherjacky1334 Maybe she was scared or shocked by the whole situation, or she genuinely believed that the dragons would be okay and could get out of it alive on their own as the book's testimony suggests.

  • @Nimbus-qn5py

    @Nimbus-qn5py

    11 күн бұрын

    Rheanyra is not smart and she deffinitly NEVER thinks qbout anything long term.

  • @bugcatcherjacky1334

    @bugcatcherjacky1334

    11 күн бұрын

    @@edgarrojas5060 Honestly I would think a handful of dragons could easily handle a few humans as well, but guess not

  • @dannyeller3018
    @dannyeller301826 күн бұрын

    That’s just smart thinking. The Blacks have more dragons but as Rhaenyra said in the show “none of our dragons have ever been to war”. Meanwhile Vhagar was once ridden by VISENYA Targaryen.

  • @connormcmurphy4276

    @connormcmurphy4276

    25 күн бұрын

    I dont understand why Rhaenyra said that. Not only had caraxes seen battle in the stepstones against the triarchy, but he had also fought with Tarth against the myrmen fleet during the 4th Dornish war. Whilst i fully accept that Vhaegar is truly in a class of her own, id argue that caraxes is certainly the #2 in terms of formidability. Experiences, ferocious, and the bond between him and daemon has been shown to be particularly powerful (evidenced by when daemon raises his arm to block a hail of arrows, and caraxes performs the exact same movement with his wing) And if daemon is the deadliest and most dangerous man in westeros, id argue having daemon and caraxes at LEAST amounts to having vhaegar, if not is even more advantageous…as we shall all assuredly see:)

  • @josh23062

    @josh23062

    25 күн бұрын

    ​​@@connormcmurphy4276 I believe she was speaking to Daemon after he listed their dragons. The "we" she was referring to was all of their dragons, minus Daemon's own. Also, Caraxes is not Vhagar's equal. It says multiple times in the book that Caraxes couldn't hope to stand up to Vhagar, and Daemon avoiding facing Vhagar alone until he had no choice. If not for Daemon himself, Caraxes would have lost that 1v1 with Vhagar surviving. Caraxes speed gave him an early advantage, which Daemon capitalised on with a suicidal trick that killed Aemond but resulted is his own doom. With Aemond still alive, Vhagar probably would have taken the win

  • @IdaSantti

    @IdaSantti

    25 күн бұрын

    ​@@josh23062 I think if it was just Vhagar they might have a chance with Caraxes and Meyles being bad ass. But it wasn't just Vhagar and that's a problem when you need more then one big dragon to take her out

  • @josh23062

    @josh23062

    25 күн бұрын

    @@IdaSantti Caraxes and Meleys together, probably. Individually, no way. Most dragon fights went to thr ground, where superior size pays off. And Vhagar is MUCH larger. Meleys wasn't much of a fighter, she was said to be a little spoilt and slow by Rhaenys. She took out Sunfyre thanks to being much larger, but couldn't even finish the job on him

  • @user-hs5vb6kc9o

    @user-hs5vb6kc9o

    22 күн бұрын

    ​​@@connormcmurphy4276 The only dragon they had that was actually on an even close weight class to Vhagar was Meleys, Rhaenys' dragon. She was from the "3rd generation" of dragons the Tragaryen had after the original 3. Vermithor and Silverwinh were older and bigger if my memory serves me correctly, but at this point of the story they didn't have a rider. SPOILER In the book Meleys and Vhagar fight, and even if Vhagar still has the upper hand is suggester that Meleys is able to stand her ground and could have probably given a good fight. What decanted the encounter was the fact that it wasn't a one on one fight since Aegon's dragon was also present.

  • @howudoin101
    @howudoin10126 күн бұрын

    Rhaenyra: You want me to burn King's Landing? Really? *Season 8 Daenerys enters the chat*

  • @indiadecoseytillman

    @indiadecoseytillman

    26 күн бұрын

    Lmao, somebody said Dracarys? Gotcha! Dracarys! 🔥

  • @zolarenard2246

    @zolarenard2246

    24 күн бұрын

    Someone should give them time machine 🤣

  • @Souzz__

    @Souzz__

    19 күн бұрын

    U guys really cant see a traumarized person who lost basically everyone she used to love go insane? Thats so hard to believe? 😂 Daenerys was already unstable before, so she went to Westeros and patiently tried to show that she was worthy of being queen. She didn't impose herself at any point, she didn't use threats until it was the last resort, and all she got in return was contempt and betrayal. I would have done this a long time ago, maybe I would still be able to save my dragons and the people i loved

  • @indiadecoseytillman

    @indiadecoseytillman

    19 күн бұрын

    ​@@Souzz__I can see that and would have still burned down the city for less. After Cersei got the free pass in the show, for blowing up the High Sparrow and crew...then season 8 happened - yeah, I'm causing straight havoc. I'm pulling a Tyrion, I'm catching people on toilets and where ever else I can. There's no win in either scenario, you don't burn it - you're weak or you burn it and you're trash. If you're a female, you're below trash. Knowing that villains always get a quick death, I might as well choose violence. The dance in the beginning had so many opportunities for either side to quickly end the mess, imo, they really just wanted to murk themselves out.

  • @Souzz__

    @Souzz__

    19 күн бұрын

    @@indiadecoseytillman Thats it, the only problem is the rush, i think the books will have more time to settle things, but the end will be the same. They didnt warn Daenerys could go crazy the whole show for nothing, was always there. She went through so much, that not going insane earlier was the real weird thing, crazy resilience

  • @GT-xw7qy
    @GT-xw7qy26 күн бұрын

    Shows her intelligence.

  • @HK-gm8pe

    @HK-gm8pe

    26 күн бұрын

    Rhaenyra has a point... in the book Daemon wasnt soo happy to send all the dragons immediately either...I dont know why they changed it in the show , yes they would have taken the city but Rhaenyra would have lost a lot of people she loved...not that it mattered in the end anyways sadly but...

  • @Huhhh4308

    @Huhhh4308

    25 күн бұрын

    @@HK-gm8pethey hate Daemon that’s why

  • @Nimbus-qn5py

    @Nimbus-qn5py

    11 күн бұрын

    I laughed loud when i read this... good joke dude.

  • @morriswheatley9856
    @morriswheatley985622 күн бұрын

    Vhagar is a queen chess piece. Gotta be worth 9 small dragons at the least.

  • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116

    @misanthropicservitorofmars2116

    11 күн бұрын

    Worth like a hundred Arraxes

  • @notsousual2938

    @notsousual2938

    4 күн бұрын

    Vhagar was intended for Rhaena so I wonder if she can reclaim Vhagar? 🤔

  • @niccologregorutti9309

    @niccologregorutti9309

    2 күн бұрын

    ​@@notsousual2938"intended" doesn't mean anything,the dragon chooses his rider,and Vhagar chose Aemond. Dragons only allowed other riders to command them only if the previous rider was dead

  • @j2398

    @j2398

    Күн бұрын

    ​@notsousual2938 um no....where is your source for this? No where in the book or show doe sit say that. She merely assumes it's her right to try to claim her mothers dragon and that's why they get mad at aemond. Vhagar was free for anyone. Aside from he own assumptions NOBODY else thought it was her right or claim. Dragons don't work like that lol. You need to literally ride it and claim it or there is 0 connection . Unless maybe hatched with the person but that's not stated in the books to actually bond them aside from riding. So yea if she approached vhagar she would probably die . Vhagar has 0 loyalty to her

  • @NandoTalk
    @NandoTalk26 күн бұрын

    Rhaenyra: “I fear no Man” Vhagar: “I am no Man”

  • @AegonTargaryenthesecond3096

    @AegonTargaryenthesecond3096

    24 күн бұрын

    The only thing she fears is healthy food and my dragon

  • @ajaysheoran2195

    @ajaysheoran2195

    19 күн бұрын

    Dameons dragon going to kill vhagar ☠️☠️

  • @AegonTargaryenthesecond3096

    @AegonTargaryenthesecond3096

    19 күн бұрын

    @@ajaysheoran2195 nope if Daemon didn’t pull that kamikaze move Vhagar would have won

  • @ajaysheoran2195

    @ajaysheoran2195

    19 күн бұрын

    @@AegonTargaryenthesecond3096 excuses excuses 🤢🤢🤢

  • @AegonTargaryenthesecond3096

    @AegonTargaryenthesecond3096

    19 күн бұрын

    @@ajaysheoran2195 no excuse it’s in the book

  • @bryanfeliciano595
    @bryanfeliciano59526 күн бұрын

    Gotta love the council of cowards every king has... They always suggest actions that result in so much bloodshed but never take part in it themselves

  • @wolfslayer7678

    @wolfslayer7678

    25 күн бұрын

    I 100% agree the small council are cowards whenever there is war they hide like chicken until the fighting is over

  • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116

    @misanthropicservitorofmars2116

    11 күн бұрын

    It’s realistic to our own world

  • @saraswain1380

    @saraswain1380

    10 күн бұрын

    💯✅️ thank you, you're 📚 reading my mind.

  • @louiserosado4389
    @louiserosado438921 күн бұрын

    Daemon literally counted three dragon eggs, as if the eggs would hatch and the dragons suitable for battle in a few days. Rhaenyra is being cautious cause she knows is not that easy

  • @danielhughes5932

    @danielhughes5932

    13 күн бұрын

    He didn't count the eggs. He named and counted the numbers x vs y, then said 'i also have a score of eggs incubating at the dragonmont. And that was more of a ensurity that the loss of any dragons to war won't cripple targaryans future air superiority in a generation. Though he was still wrong since none hatch except the one baela takes

  • @halyketarrant
    @halyketarrant25 күн бұрын

    “We want to rule this city, not burn it to the ground.” Yeah take note Daenerys

  • @bugcatcherjacky1334

    @bugcatcherjacky1334

    20 күн бұрын

    Daenerys only heard 'burn it to the ground' 😂

  • @halyketarrant

    @halyketarrant

    20 күн бұрын

    @@bugcatcherjacky1334 facts 🥲

  • @hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195
    @hypatiakovalevskayasklodow919524 күн бұрын

    I still don’t understand how people can say that Rhaenyra was reckless in the war

  • @hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195

    @hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195

    24 күн бұрын

    Plus she didn’t start the war, she was usurped

  • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116

    @misanthropicservitorofmars2116

    11 күн бұрын

    Her terrible politicking is legitimate, but yeah. I’d argue she’s too cautious when it comes to war. She’s never seen war nor cared for it. So of course she’s not good at waging war. But her biggest problem was not knowing how to manage the vassal lords. So when Aegon took the throne, none of the lords of the kingdoms care to risk their lives for Rheanyra

  • @TraditionalCrusader

    @TraditionalCrusader

    11 сағат бұрын

    She literally ran away after kings landing fell and had to sale her crown for passage to dragonstone. Then gets turned to 🐉💩

  • @Nozubozu
    @Nozubozu26 күн бұрын

    Tbh, the Greens would more than likely only have 3 dragons since I don't think Helaena/Dreamfyre would join any fighting. Also, depending on when they would enact this plan, there's a good chance that Daeron/Tessarion would still be in Oldtown if it was done earlier in the conflict so they might only have Aegon/Sunfyre and Aemond/Vhagar to defend King's Landing. I do understand Rhaenyra's hesitation to use the dragons in this way though, since they are very similar to our modern day nukes.

  • @danielhughes5932

    @danielhughes5932

    13 күн бұрын

    Also, dreamfyre is in the dragon pit, they aren't running helaena across town during a dragon attack to get on hers. I think sunfyre still was made at the ready but would still take at minimum 10 minutes before hed get airborne with his rider. Daemon was smart in the show to try and double team vhagar with caraxes and meleys quickly and then go from there. Find laenor in essos for one more job and you have 3 full grown war vet dragons jumping vhagar any one of them could break off if sunfyre appears early and likely handle a 1v1

  • @kingkongchief1177
    @kingkongchief117726 күн бұрын

    Aemonds got the biggest and most war experienced dragon of course she fears only Aemond he’s the biggest threat LMAO.

  • @RandomMackem3247

    @RandomMackem3247

    19 күн бұрын

    An experienced dragon with a young inexperience rider vs an experienced dragon with an experienced rider

  • @Wolfhunter5607

    @Wolfhunter5607

    8 күн бұрын

    vhagar is the threat

  • @heatherward5053
    @heatherward505325 күн бұрын

    She wasn’t stupid!! Any war brings casualties

  • @brutus56ful
    @brutus56ful7 күн бұрын

    We have an army! - "We have a Vhagar"

  • @TihetrisWeathersby
    @TihetrisWeathersby26 күн бұрын

    More like she feared Vhagar

  • @waltertheterrible6062

    @waltertheterrible6062

    26 күн бұрын

    True, Vhagar was the largest and oldest dragon and also had experience in war during the conquest and against the Dornish

  • @HK-gm8pe

    @HK-gm8pe

    26 күн бұрын

    but Vhagar was also old and slow ,...would have died anyway soon I think even if battle above the gods eye wouldnt have happened

  • @xoxxccapal0tt

    @xoxxccapal0tt

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@@waltertheterrible6062true but since he was the oldest that made him slower and a bit weaker then he once was

  • @12gark

    @12gark

    19 күн бұрын

    ​​@@HK-gm8pewell, if we use Balerion as a comparison, he died at least 200yo, but he could have been 230 or 250yo as far as we know. So Vhagar (a little less than 180yo) could have lived another 40 or 50 years. Maybe only 20, but who knows. And yes, probably she was slower at this point, but remember, size is still useful: her mouth is big enough and strong enough to snap another dragon in half, and her fire is hot enough to melt rocks and metals. You need to be extremely careful, one wrong move, one single bite, and one dragon is dead.

  • @waltertheterrible6062

    @waltertheterrible6062

    18 күн бұрын

    @@xoxxccapal0tt Vhagar was a female dragon, and yes that’s definitely possible, but still she was very dangerous for the blacks

  • @williamleo9704
    @williamleo970426 күн бұрын

    Had the dragon seeds not betrayed her, victory in an all-out dragon battle would be very easy. Silverwing and Vermithor together can overpower Vhagar, leaving Sunfyre, Tessarion, and Dreamfyre to be completely destroyed by the combined might of Caraxes, Meleys, Seasmoke, Syrax, and Sheepstealer. Rhaenyra's and Daemon's children needn't get involved in the battle.

  • @lordvader5158

    @lordvader5158

    26 күн бұрын

    If Silverwing wouldn’t help Vermithor fight 2 tiny dragons in comparison, I doubt she would help him go up against the largest and most powerful dragon of the time

  • @themannis479

    @themannis479

    25 күн бұрын

    No they can’t, Vhagar is the oldes, biggest, and the fiercest of all the dragons, vermithor is big yes, but he let his age get to him like maelys the red queen, they got lazy.

  • @williamleo9704

    @williamleo9704

    25 күн бұрын

    @themannis479 taking that logic, it would only make sense for Vermithor to come out victorious since Vhagar is older than him. She's still powerful , yes, but also slowing down. Besides , Vermithor would have Silverwing as support. If a young wiry dragon like Caraxes can take Vhagar head on, then surely the two of the largest dragons alive can.

  • @ayanumar3757

    @ayanumar3757

    25 күн бұрын

    Vermithor ends up killing Blacks dragons in the war as he looses temper more then Vhagar

  • @nebularcore

    @nebularcore

    19 күн бұрын

    Isnt Syrax dead?

  • @tonyjunior-thefirstgentlem410
    @tonyjunior-thefirstgentlem41026 күн бұрын

    I know that she is now down to 2 sons and one less dragon. Plus, all the fancy fan art keeps showing her more svelte figure as opposed to the extra pregnancy weight version of the novel.

  • @bryantblalock4173

    @bryantblalock4173

    24 күн бұрын

    It’s fanart… who cares

  • @jonny-b4954
    @jonny-b495424 күн бұрын

    Best is to try and isolate them and hit them with 3v1 kind of numbers. Or like I've always said, fly straight to Red Keep, their dragons are on the other side of the city. Get them there or during some public event. Or just get rid of the dragon riders when they're NOT on their dragons. Send more "Cheese's"

  • @jaimenazaryan860

    @jaimenazaryan860

    15 күн бұрын

    vhagar is guarding the red keep , fly their and you will serve yourself to her as a free meal delivery

  • @veronicadavanzo2064
    @veronicadavanzo206426 күн бұрын

    Because who wouldn’t be afraid of Aemond and Vhagar?

  • @hereiam8

    @hereiam8

    21 күн бұрын

    Daemon dgaf about them

  • @psychic800

    @psychic800

    19 күн бұрын

    ​@@hereiam8meanwhile daemon :- help me face vhagar and her rider , I can't kill them alone

  • @mesa577

    @mesa577

    8 күн бұрын

    @@hereiam8 Daemon hiding in the riverlands...

  • @hereiam8

    @hereiam8

    6 күн бұрын

    ​@@mesa577 it's called strategy during war throughout the whole war Daemon outplayed this one eyed boy with 0iq

  • @hereiam8

    @hereiam8

    6 күн бұрын

    @@psychic800 "help me face vhagar" nobody cares about useless aemond he's nothing without vhagar but still in the end Daemon alone easily annihilated both of them

  • @MiguelGarcia-hl5jo
    @MiguelGarcia-hl5jo25 күн бұрын

    I really really really hope that Rhaenera does all this bad ass stuff and at the end of her fate as book readers know that Aegon says something along the lines of erasing her legacy after he kills her or something and that’s why they didn’t know much of her in GOT …. Idk

  • @jacobywooley3272
    @jacobywooley32728 күн бұрын

    They needa make a game that shit would be lit

  • @oharayoung4992
    @oharayoung499226 күн бұрын

    The BloodWorm: 👀

  • @user-qt2zp2ms5l

    @user-qt2zp2ms5l

    26 күн бұрын

    Bloodwyrm ain't gonna do anything if Sunfyre is there.

  • @HK-gm8pe

    @HK-gm8pe

    26 күн бұрын

    @@user-qt2zp2ms5l what is sunfyre gonna do? :D most useless dragon ever :D

  • @AniSwiftTVRecaps

    @AniSwiftTVRecaps

    26 күн бұрын

    ​@@HK-gm8pe edit: Spoilers for show sunfyre is the mvp of all dragons in this entire war. Plus vhagar low diffed caraxes in the final fight infact if I remember they said that all caraxes could do was hold on the vhagar while he was being torn apart but after vhagar ripped off one of his wings caraxes pulled both dragons towards the water and the fall killed vhagar on impact, leaving caraxes who landed ontop of vhagar which broke his fall to live a little longer before passing away. Infact even daemon knew he didn't stand a chance bro spent the whole war avoiding vhagar and then only started hunting down aemon when he had sheepstealer to back him up and after she left bro went to aemon where he said he's lived too long. Like daemon didn't even fight vhagar they both went for the kamikaze with caraxes pulling down vhagar and daemon onstrapping himself to jump over to aemon, they went there to die

  • @zeikers

    @zeikers

    26 күн бұрын

    @@AniSwiftTVRecapsyou typed this whole comment just to explain how Daemon and Ceraxes won lol

  • @tyl_794

    @tyl_794

    26 күн бұрын

    umm no? caraxes literally opened vhaegar throat which caused her death

  • @victorialynnstruble
    @victorialynnstruble21 күн бұрын

    It is a little comforting to know that saying we don't want to burn the city to the ground but actually doing it is something of a targaryen tradition

  • @freebird264
    @freebird26420 күн бұрын

    To be fair, Caraxes and Vermithor could’ve done the job no problem, and Caraxes eventually mutual killed Vhagar in the Battle Above the God’s Eye

  • @jaimenazaryan860

    @jaimenazaryan860

    15 күн бұрын

    no

  • @baptistofori8780

    @baptistofori8780

    12 күн бұрын

    ​@@jaimenazaryan860yes he did with daemon😂

  • @jaimenazaryan860

    @jaimenazaryan860

    12 күн бұрын

    @@baptistofori8780 no 😏

  • @jakealter5504

    @jakealter5504

    5 күн бұрын

    @@jaimenazaryan860he did

  • @therealistintheboot8822

    @therealistintheboot8822

    Күн бұрын

    ​@@jakealter5504It was a suicide mission so how does it really count as a Win while daemon killed both dragons and himself in the process??

  • @ajaylet9563
    @ajaylet956326 күн бұрын

    She was smart none of her dragons have been to battle. And vhagar could easily take out all of team blacks dragons.

  • @krisj12

    @krisj12

    26 күн бұрын

    Funny, vhagar lost to caraxes

  • @martinreichl4719

    @martinreichl4719

    26 күн бұрын

    ​@@krisj12 she didnt lost,Caraxes died too, it was a kamikaze move.

  • @kap2652

    @kap2652

    25 күн бұрын

    Never been to battle against other dragons

  • @krisj12

    @krisj12

    25 күн бұрын

    @@martinreichl4719 what? Kamikaze or not, vhagar died and aemond got put down. Caraxes is smaller and younger than vhagar and still killed the older, bugger dragon. Caraxes and daemon are clearly stronger than vhagar/aemond when together. You could argue vhagar is past their prime and had a shitty dragon rider but the fact remains vhagar lost the battle. Dying is clearly losing, as we know caraxes crawled to shore therefore outlived vhagar.

  • @ajaylet9563

    @ajaylet9563

    25 күн бұрын

    True true !!! And I’m going off the show we don’t know yet how it will end with Caraxes and vhagar in the show.

  • @joeybulford9055
    @joeybulford9055Күн бұрын

    Sure they had Vhagar. But you’d have Meleys and Caraxes together. Fkn they could take down the greens almost by themselves.

  • @kendy4
    @kendy418 сағат бұрын

    That's actually strategic. The way she laid out the plan , and thinking ahead instead of direct all or nothing violence. She went on to think about her own cost's for such a move. Queen Moves right there.

  • @bennykakerautodidact
    @bennykakerautodidact24 күн бұрын

    Wait. She said “anyway subscribe for more”? Not great dialogue.

  • @Callsign_Prophet
    @Callsign_Prophet16 күн бұрын

    At what cost? Trying to save everyone ensures you save no one in war

  • @kaullinkosnopfal2983
    @kaullinkosnopfal29833 күн бұрын

    Meanwhile Daemon is like "hold my cup" and kills Aemond and vhagar by himself.

  • @edgarrojas5060
    @edgarrojas506024 күн бұрын

    I mean, she was afraid of fighting, not just of Vhagar XD.

  • @tixxoncraft
    @tixxoncraft12 күн бұрын

    "You my lord? I don't think so." is way more powerful a insult if you keep in mind that the Celtigars are also a valyrian family who were already under Targaryen before the conquest, just that they did not keep their bloodline as "pure" and didn't start out with having dragons

  • @theotherguy6951
    @theotherguy695124 күн бұрын

    I seem to recall the last time dragon fought dragon was in the Battle Beneath the God’s Eye between Prince Aegon the Uncrowned and his dragon Quicksilver, and King Maegor The Cruel and his dragon Balerion the Black Dread. That fight didn’t last long. Balerion, being 4x larger, decimated Quicksilver and suffered no permanent injuries. So yeah, I’d be afraid of anyone with the largest dragon.

  • @12gark

    @12gark

    19 күн бұрын

    Well, Vhagar did fight in season 1. Thst also ended with the smaller dragon dead and the bigger one flying away perfectly healthy

  • @theotherguy6951

    @theotherguy6951

    19 күн бұрын

    @@12gark Yeah your right , I was talking before

  • @kidculprit6262

    @kidculprit6262

    5 күн бұрын

    @@12garkread the book bro! Vaygar gotta do dental check and 2 missing tooth after that fight🦷

  • @Sdotm786
    @Sdotm7869 сағат бұрын

    Liking the respect they put on Vhagar’s name 👌🏽

  • @modernamami5861
    @modernamami586113 күн бұрын

    She wasn’t afraid. She knew how devastating a war between dragon riders would be and wanted to avoid that. She also didn’t want the dragons to kill one another/die out. I do think she was too cautious though. If they had just jumped Vhagar this war would’ve ended in a day.

  • @Donstaa
    @Donstaa24 күн бұрын

    Btw putting all 3 of her sons in battle is a huge worrying it self

  • @megatron9439
    @megatron94396 күн бұрын

    Caraxes and Daemon - Hold my beer

  • @johnysnoww3831
    @johnysnoww383117 күн бұрын

    When non targaryen starts to tell you who are only two pure blood old valyrian houses left what to do with dragons, i would lose my shit. :D

  • @anusankumaresan8290
    @anusankumaresan82906 күн бұрын

    King Viserys taught Power & Politics to Rhenera well that’s why she allied with strong warriors (Cristin Cole, Harwin Strong & Daemon) and strong houses (Valeryans, Strongs & Starks). But, she made serious mistakes (feeding lords to dragons) and showed weaknesses throughout her life. However, Prince Aemond made himself as a strong warrior and political scholar & being the rider of Vhager made himself as fierce fighter in both land and sky.

  • @verihimthered2418
    @verihimthered24186 күн бұрын

    That's not the sea snakes. He looks nothing like his true born grandson.

  • @Astarions.BhaalSpawn.Elf.
    @Astarions.BhaalSpawn.Elf.Күн бұрын

    Daenerys: oh rule, not burn. My bad -

  • @mikemalman813
    @mikemalman8132 күн бұрын

    Once she got the two betrayers on her side, she should've took Kings Landing immediately

  • @theotherguy6951
    @theotherguy695124 күн бұрын

    What’s stopping Rhaena from claiming one of Dragonstone’s riderless dragons? She spent 6 years living on Dragonstone with her father and stepmother/cousin and she still remains dragonless. I know in the books, Rhaena is giving an egg from Syrax’s clutch which eventually hatches into Morning but that’s toward the end of the Dance, and Morning was still too young to be ridden. She should take her mother’s advice that she must claim a dragon, not wait for one to be born to her. Rhaena had coveted Vhagar after her mother’s death but since that’s no longer an option, the likes of Vermithor or Silverwing would be her next best bet.

  • @CarlosRamirez09
    @CarlosRamirez098 күн бұрын

    Rhaenyra was afraid but not in this instance. Now the storming of the Pit is another matter completely…

  • @desaadd
    @desaaddКүн бұрын

    Damnn they have silverwing too, they have the queen and the kings ancient dragons.

  • @michaelbuick6995
    @michaelbuick699516 күн бұрын

    Whatever the Blacks have the Greens can always say "and I'll raise you one Vhagar". It really is a massively disproportionate counterweight. Including Vermithor and Silverwing the Blacks have maybe 5 dragons that Vhagar could not chop in a single bite. Two of the bigger dragons on the Blacks side v Vhagar would be the minimum required to make it a fair fight.

  • @Chad0023
    @Chad002324 күн бұрын

    Both of the sides can just fly over and burn each other's homes, but it doesn't help anyone just dumb

  • @dominiccastro6483
    @dominiccastro648323 сағат бұрын

    I cant give Daemon respect for his "victory" over Aemond and Vhagar because he basically had to pull a super lucky, suicide maneuver to do it. It would be like if you were playing chess with someone then you picked the board up threw it across the room and said "I win".

  • @kevinboudreaux7860
    @kevinboudreaux786025 күн бұрын

    That’s actually a really good point.

  • @jackashmore
    @jackashmore19 күн бұрын

    Team Green is TOO op for them to be beat fairly. I mean the only fair fight in the whole war is the battle over the gods eye.

  • @agentsteak6539

    @agentsteak6539

    12 күн бұрын

    I wouldnt call a 1v1 fair if one dragon is double the size of the other ngl

  • @digge2210
    @digge221020 күн бұрын

    So she wasnt afraid, just knew she was tactically inferior Good job Rhaenyra

  • @siennarose9784
    @siennarose97848 күн бұрын

    I really love Rhaenyra's character. She's not about brute force, she's wise, strategic and thinks about the consequences that the dragons and war will bring to the common folk. There's just a lot of depth to her, i hope the series sticks to that and not reduce her to a Season 8 Dany

  • @coconutnik
    @coconutnik9 күн бұрын

    Daemon comes in clutch tho

  • @sophie2088
    @sophie208832 минут бұрын

    👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 an Xenia! you did a great job! :3 fands super!

  • @hinglemccringleberry7837
    @hinglemccringleberry78372 күн бұрын

    if i didn't know what better i would think aemomds recklessness would be his demise.

  • @user-dm1tx3xb9d
    @user-dm1tx3xb9d21 күн бұрын

    Espero que vhagar morra na segunda 2 temporada 🔥

  • @kap2652
    @kap265225 күн бұрын

    She was craven it is known

  • @NtoTheM
    @NtoTheM4 күн бұрын

    Noone is afraid of any singular dragon. Any 2 experienced dragons together can take Vhagar down with ease. That's not what they're afraid of. It's the whole lot of death and destruction inbetween and the loss of dragon life that they're wary of, because no matter who wins, they'll come out of the war much weaker than before.

  • @seiyakun7256
    @seiyakun7256Күн бұрын

    Vhagar was the largest n probably the oldest n one of the smartest dragon at that period of time n no wonder why Vhagar is survival veteran of 100 battles

  • @noobiangamez4529
    @noobiangamez452925 күн бұрын

    And it only took one of those dragons and its rider to beat Vhagar and hers.

  • @theotherguy6951

    @theotherguy6951

    24 күн бұрын

    At the cost of its own life and its rider’s (though in spectacular fashion). I can’t wait to see that duel though I might still have to wait another 2-4 years to see it.

  • @XRPJAY00
    @XRPJAY004 күн бұрын

    “We want to rule the city, not burn it to the ground” yea ok

  • @The_Sk3ptic
    @The_Sk3ptic10 күн бұрын

    Vhagar is like 3 dragons in 1 😩. It would take all 5 inexperienced dragons on the Black side to take out Vhagar’s big ass 😂

  • @andrewgeorgecomeau4066
    @andrewgeorgecomeau406611 сағат бұрын

    Rhaenyra is way too smart to want a "Dance of Dragons" because she's been paying attention for all these years. " There is no war as hated by the God's as a war between kin, and no war so bloody as a war of dragons".

  • @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886
    @ahmedshaharyarejaz98865 күн бұрын

    Otto single handedly ended the Targaryen dragons.

  • @afguy79
    @afguy7912 күн бұрын

    Narrator said "afaid" 😂

  • @lukethegoldenminecart1297
    @lukethegoldenminecart129716 сағат бұрын

    Silverwing never saw much combat while Alysanne was her rider. Vermithor, however, has seen combat, and if the Blacks' dragons faced off against the Greens' dragons, it probably would've been the deciding factor in a fight against Vhagar. Vermithor, Caraxes, and Meleys together are more than a match against Vhagar, and I imagine Syrax, Vermax, and Seasmoke could make short work of Sunfyre. Dreamfyre wouldn't be a threat since Heleana never saw action, so that leaves Tessarion. I think you can see what im getting at.

  • @miked5908
    @miked59084 күн бұрын

    Show is so good, i didn't know what to expect after GOT ,arguably the best show ever put on tv, but so far HOD has been great, i cant wait to see all the related shows coming over the next few years

  • @emmanueladedeji3335
    @emmanueladedeji333516 күн бұрын

    Lord Celtigar: Let’s go burn some greens! Rhaenyra: It’s dangerous and who will ride Seasmoke, Vermithor or Silverwing? You…? Lord Celtigar: Maybe…

  • @JoshEastham
    @JoshEastham8 күн бұрын

    I would have melted the red keep to the ground and left the rest of the city untouched

  • @havenjanus8042
    @havenjanus80429 күн бұрын

    Somebody believes in Greens' propaganda because that's not fear. That's simply having a tactical, strategic mind. Light of the 7 bless our queen

  • @thomasfasano8668
    @thomasfasano86687 күн бұрын

    Funny how they didn’t lean more into this in the show…

  • @hunterboyreactions7805
    @hunterboyreactions78057 күн бұрын

    I think a good strategy will make them win the game.. Probably assasins etc

  • @thedeadpoolorange2732
    @thedeadpoolorange2732Күн бұрын

    She was not afraid she was rational

  • @firestormthelovewing2114
    @firestormthelovewing211416 күн бұрын

    Going up against something as big as vhagar would be a death sentence i feel like vhagar needs to be riderless once again by burning her rider aemond or atleast snatch him off of vhagar and drop him from a high altitude

  • @thedarkmelddepot4368
    @thedarkmelddepot436813 күн бұрын

    He was a spitting image of Daemon. Of course she was afraid of him.

  • @jjthoughts9920
    @jjthoughts99205 сағат бұрын

    Vhegar alone makes up for 5 of those dragons

  • @gb828
    @gb82815 күн бұрын

    The worst part about playing League of Legends is finding characters who share similar names to LoL characters.

  • @queenxx1690
    @queenxx169025 күн бұрын

    She was coward after her father

  • @milankumar7753
    @milankumar775319 сағат бұрын

    not afraid. smart and calculative

  • @brandonwoeldike2084
    @brandonwoeldike208412 күн бұрын

    Yeah man, I wouldn’t want to fuck with Vhagar

  • @mirafloyd5756
    @mirafloyd57566 күн бұрын

    The Blacks were far more tactical. If they had 9 dragon riders then they probably could’ve taken out the Greens dragons with less loses on their side.

  • @flightman2331
    @flightman23317 сағат бұрын

    Hugh flies vermithor for the blacks ♥️

  • @shaneashby5890
    @shaneashby589013 күн бұрын

    Vhagar is a game changer.

  • @roxannpoor8770
    @roxannpoor87703 күн бұрын

    Not burn it to the ground. Well it took 200+ yrs but Rhea's great great granddaughter Danerys burned all of King's Landing

  • @aileenpi73
    @aileenpi7319 күн бұрын

    That is not being afraid, that is not being stupid

  • @gmcmurr15
    @gmcmurr1515 күн бұрын

    She understands legacy. Even if they won, it would've been at great cost, and would overall weaken the Targaryen standing as a whole over the other lords of Westeros.

  • @terranosamuel
    @terranosamuel25 күн бұрын

    soundtrack pls

  • @darwinodriscoll7750
    @darwinodriscoll775016 күн бұрын

    Was there any way they could of provoked the cannibal to then bring him towards vhaegar 😂😂😂

  • @jaimenazaryan860

    @jaimenazaryan860

    15 күн бұрын

    he would eat them first , why would he follow them till vhagar , use ur brain lol

  • @trentmcquarrie9271
    @trentmcquarrie927115 күн бұрын

    Vermithor alone could handle vhagar but with meleys, silverwing, caraxes, and sheepstealer it wouldn’t be much of a competition

  • @hindutvaeditzs2912
    @hindutvaeditzs291226 күн бұрын

    First ❤📌 LOVE YOUR CONTENT

  • @chadthunderkawk1650
    @chadthunderkawk165025 күн бұрын

    Rhaenyra may not be strong enough, but her sons are definitely Strong boys. The who're of dragonstone is a coward. Aegon is the rightful heir to the throne. Back the Green.

  • @Aj-um3ou
    @Aj-um3ou10 күн бұрын

    Vhagar was survived the Dragon war.... None of the others have seen battle let alone a war

  • @silenthiller
    @silenthiller2 күн бұрын

    She was smart. Vhagar is the real fucking Queen (I am team Black, but seriously and #TeamVhagar).

  • @deviousalemanni4235
    @deviousalemanni423525 күн бұрын

    If they flew to kingslanding immetiadly they would habe won. Aemond and vhaegar were gone. Also daemon could have used the same contacts he used for blood and cheese to cut off access for the dragon pit.

  • @notsousual2938
    @notsousual29384 күн бұрын

    Vhagar was intended for Rhaena so I wonder if she can reclaim Vhagar? 🤔

  • @PzY-Reviews
    @PzY-ReviewsКүн бұрын

    The best option is to kill aemond off his dragon or have multiple dragons attack vahagar before she can get off the ground as she is slow and if they can get her with aemond not on her back they can have a few elite swords man go for him as they have 4 dragons rip vagar to shreds

  • @donnellbrown5288
    @donnellbrown52882 күн бұрын

    The thing is, inexperienced rider aside... Vhagar will surely kill a contender... The more experienced the contender and dragon the lesser the collateral,but youll still lose at least both an experience rider and dragon going against vhagar. Thats a hard wager considering if you dont contest with that wager youll easily lose whoever contends. Also she knows her family's strength derives from dragons... No point in losing all in one go ...

  • @cccole44
    @cccole4423 күн бұрын

    A Dance is a kamikaze move

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