Good video, been doing coatings for 10 years, good info

@hellogarageus

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback, Travis! It's always great to hear from other professionals in the industry.

Sorry you guys are a little off 1. Epoxy doesn’t just naturally delaminate. theirs a whole process from the beginning including grounding the concrete and even moisture testing the concrete. Missing even one step will result in a fail system 2. Hot tire is only noticeable with those Home Depot epoxy kits or cheap epoxy if you use real 100 solid epoxy that doesn’t just evaporate when your pour it I assure you won’t have that problem 3. You can add texture to the epoxy too make it super non slip and I don’t just mean flakes. that’s why it’s so popular in commercial kitchens, ever heard of epoxy cove base ? The job you guys are showing shows the floor hasn’t even been grounded, I doubt was moisture checked, assuming not 100 solid epoxy was used either. You guys came in, grounded the concrete then installed your system. With the right prep and right system whether it’s epoxy or poly you should have no issue with this system I have plenty systems going 10 plus including my own porch which doesn’t have a poly clear cost and has never yellowed

@hellogarageus

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reply, Alex! You’re correct that many issues with epoxy arise from improper preparation, and not testing for the concrete’s moisture content. That among many other considerations are key aspects of what we do. When we first decided to go into the garage renovation industry, our goal was to find something that would help create a remarkable experience for homeowners, similar to what we have been doing for over 40 years as foundation and concrete repair experts. We completely agree a quality product goes nowhere without good install practices, but good installs don’t make up for lesser products. With our customer-first approach, our development and engineering team spent years researching and testing different floor coating solutions, including many versions of epoxy, while we looked for the best way to provide a redefining experience for customers! Unlike the 100% aliphatic polyaspartic we landed on, most of the epoxies we worked with showed adhesion, discoloration, and other performance issues even after the best install methods. The main fault being associated with the short comings of the aromatic materials-no matter the total amount of them. But we’re happy to hear you’re having good luck with your work and wish you the best!

@jeffbotheroyd2267

3 жыл бұрын

You are correct. I feel that real epoxy installed by professionals get a bad rap. Almost every epoxy hot tire pick up or other failure happens with the hardware store / local paint store DIY epoxy kits (I won't name the brands). I use epoxy you can't get from the big box store, decorative flakes, and then a polyaspartic top coat. No failures. Proper floor prep by diamond grinding is one of the keys for a successful job. That and high quality, 2 component industrial epoxy base coat and clear polyaspartic top coat (not the water based stuff from the local stores).

@houstonredmond1799

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. What he said and Polyaspartic has less grip the epoxy.

@sethwentfishin

Жыл бұрын

100% agree. Poly will pop if there’s any bit of moisture. A 100% solids VRM base, full flake to rejection, and 85% polyaspartic will last as long as the slab is there. Diamond grinding is key. Here in the south we have soft concrete, a lot of limestone, epoxy seeps into the pores and honestly bonds better than poly.

Incorrect. Epoxy does belong on garage floors. Just not the DIY kits you get from the big box stores. I look at my franchised competitors spec data sheets for the polyaspartics they use on the concrete and it seems that all of them tend to hold back only 3lbs of MVE (moisture vapor emissions) whereas high quality industrial type epoxy primers hold back 8-10 lbs of MVE. Polyaspartics are good. Just not as good as true epoxies. However, the polyaspartics are an excellent choice for the top coat. Just not the base coat. I feel that real epoxy installed by professionals get a bad rap. Almost every epoxy hot tire pick up or other failure happens with the hardware store / local paint store DIY epoxy kits (I won't name the brands). We use epoxy you can't get from the big box store, decorative flakes, and then a polyaspartic top coat. No failures. Proper floor prep by diamond grinding is one of the keys for a successful job. That and high quality, 2 component industrial epoxy (not the water based stuff from the local stores).

@El-nn9wi

8 ай бұрын

I would trust with my floor. You know your stuff. I am a coatings rep and everything you said is 100 percent accurate. Polyspartic is a great option as a finish coat but epoxy is the way to go as a primer.

hi, would it be effective to use epoxy as primer (because it has longer drying/setting time), then polyaspartic as topcoat? Thanks!

@hellogarageus

Жыл бұрын

👋Hello! Polyaspartics will adhere better to concrete over epoxy, with the only exception being excessive moisture. Reputable floor coating companies will check floors for moisture content before suggesting the appropriate basecoat material. Another consideration is that epoxies are vulnerable to ultraviolet light which not only causes the material to yellow but also begin to slowly break down. While ultraviolet light will not yellow a polyaspartic (100% aliphatic), a polyaspartic topcoat will not prevent the ultraviolet light from damaging an epoxy coat that is beneath it. - So when considering your basecoat, consider your concrete moisture levels as well as exposure to UV light.

What are your thoughts on mixing the 2 Base coating with epoxy or polyaspartic Then broadcasting decorative colored epoxy then top coating with clear polyaspartic

@hellogarageus

2 жыл бұрын

Hey there! We recommend a 100% polyaspartic blend for the best performance. It also depends on the quality of polyaspartic (there are different blends out there, ours was developed by our engineers) and the installation process. If you don't have a Hello Garage location in your area, ask your local companies what their flooring is made of and what their warranty covers. You can tell a lot about a company by the wording in their warranty and the length of it! Ours is lifetime.

I just got brand new garage concrete floor installed 10 days ago. I wanted to do epoxy but hearing about this polyaspartic too however its 3 times more expensive than epoxy. Could you suggest whe should I put it on and the life of this polyaspartic. Thank you

@hellogarageus

3 жыл бұрын

Hey there! With new concrete, we can install your floor anytime. Our Dream Team will still have to do some grinding and floor prep to ensure proper adhesion, but we can get that all done for you in about a day. We also offer a limited lifetime warranty on our polyaspartic flooring, so even though you're paying more right now, you won't have to pay to get it redone a ton of times like you would an epoxy floor. If you're interested in getting a free estimate, feel free to give us a call and we can get you set up with one! 888-594-2724

@drone_video9849

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if doing it on such new concreate is a good idea. It takes at least 30 days for the concreate to get even close to its best state. Every contractor I spoke to when I build my garage (at a rental) advised I wait a year. This was also as they expected some cracks to form and would fill them. They said the risk of cracks was high and wait it out for a year and see where everything settles. At the end of it all, I waited the year, I am however interested to hear what you decide and possible how it turns out over the long run. I am in Calgary (I assume you're in Toronto).

@GUITARTIME2024

2 жыл бұрын

@@drone_video9849 do your homework. Those photos of epoxy look like "do it yourself" kits. I'd hesitate paying 3 times more. There's no hurry. Look for reputable installers.

can it be used in a commercial kitchen environment with minimal prep? We cannot remove all our equipment unfortunately but do need a better looking washable floor. Blast prepping the floor not an option - what are your thoughts?

@hellogarageus

Жыл бұрын

Prep is very important - I would have a Guru come out and look at the space to help figure out what's best! Call 1-888-594-2724

My epoxy floor has damage from battery acid having leaked from the golf cart. Would I still be a candidate for a polyaspartic coating?

@rockmorales3710

6 ай бұрын

Yes

The main reason epoxy chips or peeling is because preparing work wasn't done properly

I have a moisture problem in my slab. No standing water or broken pipes. But the slab seems to wick water up and I have some efflorescence in spots. Would you have to put down a liquid moisture barrier first and then put your floor on top? Would the moisture barrier be an epoxy type?

@hellogarageus

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your questions. You can't control mother nature, so moisture sometimes happens under concrete slabs! When our Garage Gurus conduct your free estimate, they use a moisture meter to test the moisture level in the concrete and determine if you need a moisture shield applied before our 3-step polyaspartic coating product. After a lot of testing, the moisture shield we chose to apply is a modified epoxy specifically designed to bond to slabs with excessive moisture. It's not a standard epoxy for a few reasons. For one, it's thinner and therefore seeps into the concrete pores versus sitting on top of the slab like your standard epoxy solutions do. It also works really well with our polyaspartic base and top coats, which helps to make it UV stable, more flexible and more resistant to abrasion. If you're interested in having us come out to your house to provide a moisture test and free estimate, you can see if we're in your area and book your estimate online! www.hellogarage.com/book-now.html

I did a metallic epoxy and it's still going strong 5 years later 👍

@hellogarageus

3 жыл бұрын

You're a lucky guy!

@mariocoronado3110

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah we used great product!

@duraflexllc4860

3 жыл бұрын

Mario Coronado what did you use if you don’t mind me asking

@drone_video9849

3 жыл бұрын

They seem pretty harsh on Epoxy, I had mine done 16 years ago, and not a single issue other than a little yellow like they pointed out on the outside bit. My floor is in Calgary, so we use tons of gravel, deicer, very cold winters, and decently hot summers. I live off a hi way I drive on for 30 min before pulling into my garage. I can see how installs might / can fails. Every place they showed it peeling the fool looked perfectly smooth and like bad prep. When they did my floor, they blasted it with pellets for hours and got all the loose stuff off. I feel like the videos here should have spent more time on the benefits of polyaspartic vs anti epoxy. For the record, despite my incredibly positive experience with Epoxy in my home, I have a rental property where I had polyspartic installed a few weeks ago. The main reason was its way less slippery that epoxy.

@mariocoronado3110

3 жыл бұрын

@@duraflexllc4860 it's Arizona Polymer (APF)

Hi guys have you ever heard of anyone using polyaspartic resin as a replacement for epoxy in fibreglassing? I am building a plywood wooden structure for outdoors that I was going to sheath in epoxy fibreglass as a waterproof barrier but now am second guessing that due to the UV instability (I want to keep it clear for a natural wood look). Although the properties (adhesive, tensile etc) look similar I can't find anything online suggesting people are using it that way. Alternatively is a polyaspartic top coat considered a "permanent" or maintenance free UV protective layer for epoxy when in direct sunlight from your experience with garage floors? Anything that would avoid 12 yearly coats of Epifanes!

@hellogarageus

3 жыл бұрын

Hey there! We aren't fiberglass experts but we can speak to the properties of polyaspartic versus epoxy. Unlike epoxy, polyaspartic is UV stable so it won't yellow from the sun. Additionally, polyaspartic is typically thinner and more flexible when dried, allowing the product to move more with the typical fluctuations of a concrete slab. We have noticed some companies/people use polyaspartic for boat decks (retrofit) that are fiberglass and they have reported satisfaction with it, but that is just our observation. But in your specific situation, we recommend getting with a fiberglass expert to be sure if/how it would work in terms of application. One thing that makes us as good as we are with flooring is not just our product but how we APPLY it. For our garage floor coating specifically, we use a polyaspartic for our base coat AND our top coat, which adds to the durability and UV stability of our product. What also gives our product the long life it has is proper preparation and installation, so with that, we would not recommend putting polyaspartic over an epoxy coat. Polyaspartic is meant to soak into the pores of the concrete, so when you have an existing coating there, it cannot do that.

@wannabejeeper

11 ай бұрын

@@hellogarageus Just did my floor with MPC products. It's an epoxy base, flakes and polyaspartic top. Just layed it down, and I'm just a DIY homeowner, so we'll see how it does.

If applied correctly, you won’t get hot tire pick up and the sample floor you show has no topcoat on it which helps prevent hot tire pickup,you prbably showed a floor that wasn’t completely dry before application

@carloscortes4312

7 ай бұрын

I guarantee the example they showed was not properly prepped. A huge no no.

Do you broadcast into polyaspartic or just use it as a top coat?

@hellogarageus

3 жыл бұрын

Great question, Cody! Yes, we broadcast our flake into polyaspartic. Our flooring system consists of three layers. The first layer is our colored polyaspartic base coat, then our second layer is the vinyl flake and finally our third layer is a clear polyaspartic top coat.

@duraflexllc4860

3 жыл бұрын

Hello Garage - The Garage Renovation Channel how can you consider flakes or broadcast is a layer or onecoat why don’t you tell people you do two coats system lol

@codyholst6056

3 жыл бұрын

2 coat systems are pretty standard for residential resinous floors though. Are you implying you would do a double broadcast on a garage floor?

@duraflexllc4860

3 жыл бұрын

Cody Holst No I don’t do double broadcast on the garage floor but I do 2 clear codes on full broadcast

@hellogarageus

3 жыл бұрын

@@duraflexllc4860 Hey there! In addition to looks, the flakes provide texture and slip resistance so they're a key step in our install process.

Can you tell me how putting polyaspartic over epoxy works . Epoxy takes two days to set . Polyaspartic sets in hours. How doesn't this system delaminate .

@sethwentfishin

Жыл бұрын

You can use a fast cure epoxy - needs to installed by a pro.

@tinnedanger

Жыл бұрын

@@sethwentfishin thanks for the reply. All the installers here have told me they would put down epoxy primer basecoat then polyaspartic top coat. That makes me suspicious.

@sethwentfishin

Жыл бұрын

@@tinnedanger 100% solids epoxy base. You can use a VRM epoxy as well (Vapor Reducing Membrane), full flake, and seal it with polyaspartic- seeps into the concrete, especially soft concrete and hardens it. Bonds really good and will last a long time.

@tinnedanger

Жыл бұрын

@@sethwentfishin Thank you for this. I'll put it to my installer. I'm in Australia.

Lmao if the floors has efflorescence problems your polyspartic isn’t going to stay down. I will bet my life on it.

Lmao at :35 that was efflorescence problems not an epoxy problems.

Can u do my garage floor

@hellogarageus

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Santos, we'd love to! Go ahead and give our appointment center a call at 888.594.2724 and we can set you up with if there's a location in your area.

Really nice video although the guys don’t know what they are talking about.

What you guys just did is compare a Toyota hybrid to a ford raptor and say all trucks are faster than cars. The only thing you got totally right is that polyaspartics don’t yellow and epoxies do.

@tomvathjr

Жыл бұрын

A quality Epoxy Primer & Basecoat then flake then Urethane Topcoat is the best option.

Wow, before you guys pass on bad, biased or at best poorly informed information you might want to doo your homework. A typical homeowner will be duped by your video...buyers beware

I've been using epoxy as my base coat on Garage floors for 17yrs. now. I have never had one fail. This video is just full of lies and it hurts the industry over all. Polyaspartic is a good coating just not as good as epoxy direct to concrete. You can sell good garage floors with out being dishonest about the products that have a proven track record.

@jesselink8747

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@albinothug

4 ай бұрын

If you pressure wash your driveway and accidentally spray the epoxy garage floor, your floor will peel away from the concrete. Saw this yesterday. Felt bad for the owner... Got scammed by epoxy salesmen.

Beware, dont use this an automotive repair flooring. Wears way to quick, cracks, scratches within a 2-4 years will look horrible. 35k interested into polyaspartic floor, Waste of money!

@hellogarageus

2 жыл бұрын

We're sorry to hear that you had troubles with your polyaspartic floor, Gary! Do you know if it was 100% aliphatic polyaspartic or if you have any excessive moisture under your concrete slab? Those are a few factors that can affect if a polyaspartic floor's installation and durability. We use a super durable, 100% aliphatic (meaning it's flexible and moves with concrete) polyaspartic that shouldn't flake, chip or peel at all and can stand up to just about anything but battery acid. The lifetime warranty we have on our floor speaks to this. If you're interested in learning more or to see if you have a Hello Garage in your area, feel free to give us a call! 1-888-594-2724

These guys have never read a data sheet about bond strength in their life. I have epoxy floors installed in Canada that are still beautiful after 10 plus years. Contact knowledgeable installers. Not just a sales pitch!!

@hellogarageus

2 жыл бұрын

We're glad to hear of your success, and we're just using our platform to share our own research and successes. It's more than a sales pitch, it's a promise that our floors will last the lifetime of your garage and we stand behind that fully! Best of luck with your endeavors, though!

Wow what a video of lies. Lol First off the poly doesn't have time to soak in with the fast dry times and the super thin coats installed by one day systems. Epoxy based floor with polyaspartic top coat will out perform one day floors by far.

@hellogarageus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the concern, but we've been having amazing success with our flooring! It does bond to the concrete super well and we have a lifetime warranty to prove it :)

Very bad information. No information on proper preparation.

@hellogarageus

3 жыл бұрын

You are in luck! Look out for a future episodes dedicated solely proper preparation! We know that is key to the entire process, and it's one of the many reasons why we can offer an unbeatable warranty on our product.

@thearcher1740

3 жыл бұрын

Dude your reading skils are "Very bad". Read the title of the video again slowly. This is NOT a concrete prep tutorial so why are you expecting info on that??

@centralcoastpolishingresto671

3 жыл бұрын

@@thearcher1740 how can you fairly compare the two systems without talking about proper prep?

@ilovethenfl510

3 жыл бұрын

@@centralcoastpolishingresto671 your 100 percent right, lol this video give me a headache all real installer know why

@duraflexllc4860

3 жыл бұрын

Alex Radilla this is more like knocking down other products other people and talking good about their selves