Why Pokemon Pros were WRONG About Iron Crown.
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Iron Crown was once laughed at as a seemingly terrible new Paradox Form of Coballion with little to offer.
Iron Boulder was the original star of the new DLC with its high speed and explosive offensive power.
However, with metagame shifts Iron Boulder eventually fell below OU, not enjoying the rise of Landorus Therian and suffering from its defensively poor typing and limited tools.
Iron Crown on the other hand caught the eyes of great players thanks to its Double Hitting signature move Tachyon Cutter, which works very well against Sash-reliant aggressive leads.
With natural Bulk and high Special Attack along with Pivoting from Volt Switch, Iron Crown also functioned very well as an Assault Vest pivot on Bulky Offense teams.
Iron Crown has now risen to OU as of July, overtaking his brother.
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@InsertFunnyThingHere
2 күн бұрын
Klawf also learns high horsepower, clearly the horses have evolved into the superior crab species
@CyanKnight96
2 күн бұрын
I am known Aggron Advocate for the Horse Council. Aggron is my favorite horse, only rivaled by Falinks. If High Horsepower is not the metric by which we quantify horsedom, I fear my worldview may be shattered. That said, I trust the Council to come the reasonable conclusion.
@infinitedepression4508
Күн бұрын
Are we completely sure that Iron Mugulis, who I’m pretty sure is doing his time for his crimes, is not behind these additions to the horse council to upend their authority?
that's iron brian
@jimothycool
2 күн бұрын
Iron Crown is his stage name.
@hps362
2 күн бұрын
He's the long-lost brother of Great Neck.
@douglaspope-gz1eq
2 күн бұрын
You mean iron goat 🐐
@cantaloupe001
2 күн бұрын
Well atleast hes not drinking brian
@supremeclamitas5053
2 күн бұрын
As opposed to Steel Steven Edit: Ferrous Francis.
Indeedee learns Expanding Horse
@PoisonFlower765
2 күн бұрын
mlp inflation
@kingambitreal
2 күн бұрын
@@PoisonFlower765NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@kaimanthelizardwizard1248
2 күн бұрын
@@PoisonFlower765it would have cost you $0 to not post this
@estebanatachaoarguedas6321
2 күн бұрын
@@PoisonFlower765 And I thought the original comment already sounded wrong...
@Ivanhoenn
Күн бұрын
And the likes of Lucario and Hariyama can use Horse Palm. Where will the madness end?
Beating the Iron Clown allegations
@noobiesensei6281
Күн бұрын
Meanwhile Iron Boulder needs to face the Iron Burden allegations.
Iron Crown may not be able to learn the move High Horsepower, but the revelation that Spectrier, a Horse Elite, is also unable to do so leads me to believe this Paradox Pokemon should be allowed a place in the Horse Council.
@usernametaken017
2 күн бұрын
We cant just open the floodgates like that
@Bird-wz7nx
2 күн бұрын
They're based on unicorns with lightsaber horns, so its legit
@ezed8748
2 күн бұрын
I agree, flutter mane is clearly a horse
@derpidius6306
2 күн бұрын
@@usernametaken017 It would be more proper for Spectrier to be exiled
@DeckKnight
2 күн бұрын
Keldeo is pretty blatantly a horse(unicorn), Cobalion and Virizion are much more like deer. Terrakion seems like a moose/bear hybrid. Stocky as a bear but with hooves and "antlers."
In a world of increasing horse creep, Rhydon has risen to the horse council in a very honest way
@teethcoat4274
2 күн бұрын
I think all horse are creep
@wentoneisendon6502
2 күн бұрын
Rhydon is a very honest, Bosnian pokemon
@_Sinduss
2 күн бұрын
Personally believe rhydon is stirring the pot so a stricter definition of horse is made which will remove horsie and magcargo from the horse council ending the horse civil war.
@zoeygeorge2403
Күн бұрын
Rhinos are pretty closely related to horses in real life..I think our horned friend gets a pass.
Sure, the horse lore is heating up. But are we gonna ignore that a member of the chicken clan, Moltres, has just risen to OU?
@Kenny-Blankenship
2 күн бұрын
It's Moltres Monday, folks. Every Moltres has its moment. This is...not insane, actually.
@_Rhatsody
2 күн бұрын
Again!?
@DCBiscuit
2 күн бұрын
From RU too. That’s my boy.
@myveryownpants
2 күн бұрын
and serperior to UU? you’d think terastralization would make it amazing, but no
@dudesayshi2191
2 күн бұрын
Is g Moltres any good or at least any of the g birds
Iron Boulder losing popularity in OU in the generation it was introduced? It really is the future Paradox form of Terrakion
The Horse Chronicles have me on edge every time
@sharkronical
2 күн бұрын
It fills me with high horsepower every time.
This actually sort of reminds me to the Infernape and Empoleon dynamic in Gen 4 Infernape at first was the more favorable option due to being a fast, explosive, immediate threat. But as the meta shifted, it went more into the favor of the slower, bulky attacker with defense/offense utility.
@Brandon.thebaby
2 күн бұрын
empoleon is the goat
@gottlicherteppich4523
2 күн бұрын
even has the quality of a garbage grass type rounding out the trio (sorry torterra fans)
@genarftheunfuni5227
2 күн бұрын
@@gottlicherteppich4523 As an Iron Leaves fan, I am offended, but also understanding of where you're coming from. Because it's the truth.
@djdrizzy9139
2 күн бұрын
Torterra was UU in gen 4; not garbage at all.@@gottlicherteppich4523
@ultimaterecoil1136
7 сағат бұрын
@@gottlicherteppich4523tortera isn’t entirely garbage in ou it’s just very niche. Rock polish sets are still perfectly valid in the format.
Horse power is a unit of measurement based on the power of a single horse. To have high horse power you aren't a horse, you have the power of many.
@owenblount7334
2 күн бұрын
I mean the average horse is capable of more than 1 horse power
@somebodyuknow2507
2 күн бұрын
Horsepower is the power of a horse averaged over a whole workday; they can output much more than 1 horsepower (a *high* amount) in short bursts
@owenblount7334
2 күн бұрын
@@somebodyuknow2507 and you can factor in the selective breeding since that unit was made making them slightly better
Regigigas can also learn high horsepower, he’s just taking a REALLY long time to reach the council
@Yellow-bm4ry
Күн бұрын
it's because of its ability, slow start
@TaLeng2023
Күн бұрын
Well he is currently pulling a continent with his balls so I can't imagine that going fast.
@midend
Күн бұрын
vtec kick in soon
What I love is Moltres constantly entering and leaving OU.
Iron crown? More like iron clown! *screams, OHKO’d through my sash that has enabled my overconfident statement*
@Tetzll123
2 күн бұрын
Wrong video
We need to define the necessary and sufficient conditions for membership in the polyphyletic group of horses.
Every crown’s rise means a boulder’s fall.
Funny. Isnt this exactly why Cobalion started seeing use later in the previous generations? It wasn't as fast as Virizion or as strong as Terrakion, but it could do more. So much more. Volt Switch was also one of the redeeming qualities it had. Very cool that Iron Crown really is like the 2.0 of Cobalion
@appointmenteer
2 күн бұрын
as a certified Cobalion Enjoyer you truly love to see it. thank you Funny Goat
@BLUBBLUBMOFO
2 күн бұрын
It also mirrors Cobalion in the sense that it’s an antilead utility Mon. Cobalion was mostly used in previous generations as a Rocks Setter and pivot!
@ValianceGames
Күн бұрын
@@BLUBBLUBMOFO Oh wow that's actually sick! What a crazy dichotomy
@mr.sandman7339
Күн бұрын
@@BLUBBLUBMOFO Also being a bulky Steel/Fighting type gave it good resistances and coverage vs both Fairies and opposing steels. Yeah it's not racking up KOs but thats not its job as a utility mon that happens to not be too passive
all metagames eventually evolve and become more defensive slow and bulky as time goes on because Finch’s ou council on smogon only ever bans offensive pokemon
@torch-eh7ti
Күн бұрын
Don't say such things! Big stall will come for your throat.
@SilverScarletSpider
Күн бұрын
@@torch-eh7ti stall is inherently not fun
HORSE CRITERIA!: I can ride it off into the sunset and pet it and it goes "neigh"
@usernametaken017
2 күн бұрын
Behold! A horse: 🦜
@greattitan371
2 күн бұрын
Plato ass definition
@tempestgreen1125
2 күн бұрын
Snorlax: You can ride it You can pet it It goes hrrgggh when it hardens Close enough?
Spectrier can't be a horse as spectrier is dead. Horses are famously not dead, otherwise they couldn't do things such as gallop, pull carriages, or use high horsepower.
Carrying on his ancient brother Terrakion's legacy as the Smeargle Breaker. 172 SpA Iron Crown Tachyon Cutter (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Smeargle: 272-324 (108.3 - 129%) -- guaranteed OHKO
@usernametaken017
2 күн бұрын
what if smeargle used double kick in return
its okay Jim, we'll only hold it against you
Iron boulder rolled so iron crown can parade.
I will sub to Jimothy Cool. Pokemon like Magcargo and Snorlax getting into the "Horse" council while Spectrier is ousted is outragous. New rules must be set in order to ensure that horse pokemon are welcomed into the council with glee, while the farces like "Rhydon" , Snorlax and Magcargo are rejected on the spot. This post has been sponsored by Horsea INC.
Here's a another one for the Horse Council: Golurk naturally learns High Horsepower since it was introduced.
Getting really invested in this horse council storyline
Next video should be dedicated to finally deciding once and for all what Pokémon are horses and which are not. The horse council drama is overshadowing Old Money’s corporate takeover and our priorities must be set in order
love seeing Arryk and Erryk make an appearance beyond the grave. 7:53
You know what they say, every Brian has his day.
Missed opportunity to have Iron Boulder saying "Oh. You." To parody the name OU
Critically Magcargo can’t learn high horsepower, only Slugma can. Magcargo’s horse-ness is merely inherited, a classic case of horse nepotism.
This is ridiculous. 2024 and still some people think that if you can’t learn high horsepower you aren’t a horse. Horse status was never about horsepower. Rhydon’s court case is an absolute joke. We used to be a country.
Iron crown has just risen up to OU
@drillnewsandclips3798
2 күн бұрын
after a long period of being considered among the worst paradox pokémon in the game
@MelonSeedOfficial
2 күн бұрын
When the DLC first released, this all new future form of coballion was laughed at
@TimeToShine39
2 күн бұрын
Iron Boulder, the future form of Terrakion, stole the show.
@YuiFunami
2 күн бұрын
@@TimeToShine39 as the seemingly superior paradox form
@aryalongnose69
2 күн бұрын
With its high speed and powerful signature move mighty cle
I really admire Iron Crown’s resilience. He may have been shunned from the horse council, but he kept persevering until the horse council truly recognized him for the horse he is.
@mr.sandman7339
Күн бұрын
That's why he's the GOAT! Goat Delegation rise up 🐐
Rhydon was the first Pokémon ever designed.
@hps362
2 күн бұрын
And in the early generations, this Pokémon was excellent competitively.
@tecul1
2 күн бұрын
😮
Horse: noun 1. a large plant-eating domesticated mammal with solid hoofs and a flowing mane and tail, used for riding, racing, and to carry and pull loads. 2. a frame or structure on which something is mounted or supported, especially a sawhorse. verb provide (a person or vehicle) with a horse or horses. Because of this, I support spectrier as a horse because it fits the first definition, Pokémon like Magcargo, as much as I support horse diversity, only provides horsepower, which is simply a unit of force equal to roughly 735.5 Newtons/second. Because of this, I would push to revoke it’s horse status, though because of the large strides it has made for the horse community at large, I believe an honorary horse society membership is in order.
@Cleffr
Күн бұрын
Okay Horsea, get off your alt account
his birth right to the crown has finally been recognized once the devilish schemes of the horned king were uncovered.
Jimothy and FlygonHG need to get together and make the definitive pokemon horse tierlist
Came to this channel for the competitive pokemon videos, stayed for the intricate horse council lore
the horse lore expands every video
Also Iron Crown AtTakyon you twice in one turn, a devestating trait for sure.
Here waiting for iron mogulis to be revealed the master mind behind the whole horse council chaos
6:35 Iron Nose spotted in Gen 9 OU. Sources are still unsure how this came to be.
Iron Crown has just risen up to OU.
@zeph519
2 күн бұрын
After a long period of being considered among the worst paradox pokemon in the game.
@raizenlim6910
2 күн бұрын
@@zeph519worst has to be iron thorns though
@PoltergeistPKMN
2 күн бұрын
@@raizenlim6910 *Iron Leaves Leaves the Chat*
@raizenlim6910
2 күн бұрын
@@PoltergeistPKMN Leaves has a niche in lower tiers surprisingly. Thorns is completely unviable sadly
@the_bookworm8281
2 күн бұрын
@@raizenlim6910 Thorns is quite solid in NU alongside Brute Bonnet. Then there is Scream Tail stuck in PU...
For breakfast today I went out with my friend, freshly returned from the coup in Bolivia. We both got the biscuits and gravy platter with eggs over medium and sausages, though he got links and I got patties.
Is iron crown a horse?
@flyingoctopus4304
2 күн бұрын
It's some manner of deer or antelope I think.
@owenblount7334
2 күн бұрын
@@flyingoctopus4304deer are a kind of antelope so yeah antelope
This Horse Council lore has me on the floor with each new addition. The Sea Horse, is considered a Horse. The Fire Slug, is considered a Horse. The Bipedal Rhino, is considered a Horse. The literal Ghost Horse, not a Horse 🤣🤣🤣...
Perhaps the horse council needs tiers of horseness. Being a rideable quadruped with high horse power like mudsdale and glastier is the highest tier of horseness. While magcargo is a mere patron of the horse council since it has access to high horse power. I believe this gives a voice to all potential horses while keeping the values of the horse council the same.
For me, a horse council member is a Pokémon that looks like a horse, can learn high horsepower, or both.
Okidogi would like to have a word with the Horse Council on the behalf of Smeargle
we beating the iron fraud allegations with this one
Bro fuck Iron crown. My homie Moltres finally OU
@usernametaken017
2 күн бұрын
what the fuck is moltres doing in OU
@misters6749
2 күн бұрын
@@usernametaken017making physical attackers calm down with its flame body
Well the legs aren’t connected to the hoofs, so Spectrier can’t lift their legs up to use High Horse Power
It has recently come to the council's attention that a number of other mons also get "high horsepower" despite their non-titles as horses. Such mons include: Melmetal, Rillaboom, Buzzwole, Chesnaught, Cetitan, Golurk, Guzzlord, Orthworm, Torterra and Wishcash among their pre-evolutions. Should these mons too be allowed access to the council?
Thanks for the video Jim
We need a documentary on the lore of Jim's intros.
In the last meta I used a similar idea as a hyper offense lead counter in "Salamence". This Salamence had a "Choice Scarf" to outspeed all potential leads, but had a "+Attack" nature with "Moxie" to also potentially have some late game usage. The key to this Salamence is "Dual Wingbeat" which OHKOs "Ribombee" with "Focus Sash", and is fast enough to outspeed it as well, not letting it get up "Sticky Web". Along with the move "Iron Head" to face off against "Alolan Ninetails" and "Glimora" (although Iron Crown is notably much better against this lead) leads, this Salamence would often be up 1 kill with an attack boost after the first turn was over.
Kind of a beautiful redemption story. His original self is horrible and everyone thought his future self was horrible but now he’s proving everyone wrong.
I had been curious about why the sentiment around IC had shifted of late Great video as always Jim!
Iron Crown more like Iron King
Cant wait for the moltres video
I like it cos it spins its head when it faints
Iron Brian has arrived on the scene... Will he stay there?
And I'm feeling it, TACHYON
Well, what a way to come back to OU after a long time.😊
It’s hard for me to remember that the paradox swords are all psychic not steel because of their names.
Dear Jimothy Cool, I beseech thee in not forgetting our beloved Klawf, another inheritor of the Pokemon move High Horsepower. Not only that, but it's cry is clearly a "moo", making it unquestionably a horse. Thank you for your consideration.
The only issue is that, despite having 122 base spAtk it still feels slightly weak offensively without booster energy for some reason
Give it technician for a hidden ability so Tachyon Cutter is a 112 bp multi-hit move
@mr.sniffly5297
2 күн бұрын
It’d be 150 bp
@whyareyoulookingatthis236
2 күн бұрын
@@mr.sniffly5297 50*1.5=75 (technician) 75*1.5=112.5 (stab)
@whyareyoulookingatthis236
2 күн бұрын
112*2=224 (forgot multi hit)
Ive commonly used scarf Iron Crown in the beginning of the dlc to prevent Ribombee from getting up webs at all. Also with Iron Defense it can turn Kingambit into a fodder.
we should also consider how high the horsepower of all those horses is and if some pokemon are horses but with a low horsepower
I'm not gonna lie, I saw Iron Crown's potential right out the gate. I literaly told my firend IRL that this mon definitely has a future. What's actually really cool, is that it volts vs Ghold and vs Kingamit, allowing them to be bullied by the right mons, and Future Sight / Psychic coverage disuades Great Tusk from switching in too recklessly, not that it enjoys taking Tachyon Cutters on the switch. It's also worth noting that booster speed cutter prevents most good leads from doing anything. I've had a couple of matches where I ended up having to pivot into a preserved Ribombee, so what I'd done, was go for Future Sight first, then OHKO it with Cutter, to force my opponent into their dark types. As mentioned, it handles Kyurem REALLY well, forcing the Tera, only for it to get removed by the Future Sight + Priority is what Poetry looks like. In my opinion, Crown, and Lokix are genuinely good mons. And there's actually potential for even more good sets out there.
Spectrier may be able to claim "Horsey Immunity": The ruling that a pokemon who is agreed to be a horse is immune from the consequences of any official moves that pokemon may or may not know.
If this goes on my favorite Pokémon Dugtrio can be called a horse for knowing high horse power, it can also punch and slash which horses do usually lack. It could be the most powerful horse this is insane.
A mad funny option is specs crown. Before I tilted like mad, I got to 1600s with it because it was that funny. Not a very practical thing but man specs tachyon cutter hits like a truck. Plus it guarantees ohko on clod with psyshock and you don't need chip on kyurem for tachyon ohko. Again not exactly the best set, but give a shot it's pretty fun catching people off guard with it.
Oh yes... when Arceus mentioned that he could put Magcargo on the priority list for the Horse Council, he was desperate. This play. The writing is intensifying to the point where we might not be able to contain it.
The room the Horse Elite were in makes me worried about the future of disease control in the Pokémon world.
I personally believe these legendaries were chosen because there was no appropriate name for them as past paradox Pokémon. They have no traits that stand out. Perhaps if they were horses, they could be named Great or Angry Horse or something.
That's a lot of horsing around but, I am glad Rhydon is now been granted Horsehood.
The worst part about Iron Brian getting into OU is Jim has to call it by its official name now.
I can't help thinking that all this with the Horse Council is somehow being deliberately stoked behind the scenes. Likely Iron Mugulis and Old Money are behind this attempt to divide such a previously robust council
After this video i pulled an iron crown ex card
I like that iron crown has been experimented with more, and recently become a proper OU Pokémon. It’s a very cool design, both visually and gameplay-wise. Hope to use it to great success myself.
Iron Crown is definitely on my top 3 favourite Paradox Pokémon, especially after using it on a Psyspam team.
I'm so happy that my goat (literally) is being recognized 🥰🥰🥰
As a huge Moltres fan, witnessing him rise to OU makes me most happy!
I just saw that tweet and I was coming to comment on how Spectrier shouldn't be on the Horse Council, but then I watched the video lol
please talk about why Iron Valiant is valid in OU while Life Orb Genesect isn’t
Well, rhydon learning high horse power makes some sense as horses are close relatives of rhinos evolutionarily.
Love your Intros. I hope the horse council can solve these internal issues quickly. Also why isn't Iron Mugulis acting on the high opportunities to finally get into a powerful position in these disrupting times, I wonder.
You're forgotten the fact a rubber chicken got promoted in ou and ou has no bug types
@usernametaken017
2 күн бұрын
Rilombee
@cqstlupin6074
2 күн бұрын
@@usernametaken017 its not on ou anymore
Steel type. Next question.
He found his nishe
Meanwhile Iron Leaves OU and our collective memory
I wish they also buff Iron Leaves. Well first thing's first, they can make Psyblade the common Paradox Musketeer sig move, just change its effect to gain the boost in Electric Terrain instead. Then they can give Leaves a new sig move. Dunno what it needs to be useful but I'm thinking of some light-based Grass attack that goes through screens and subs and ignore DEF boosts. The screens are not broken but instead powers up the move, basically roasting them behind it. I'm gonna call it Photon Slash.
Iron GOAT (also sad to hear the horse counsel is in shambles qwq)
Always take a good look at their signature move
That’s not iron crown, that’s iron Brian!
Next time, iron mugulis' rise to ou. After that, iron jugulis rise to publ. The dream.
i cant believe it but i am forced to believe that all high horsepower users are horses, but not all horses have high horsepower. this is puzzling.