WHY PATRICK MAHOMES IS NOT BETTER THAN TOM BRADY... | THE COACH JB SHOW WITH BIG SMITTY
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Coach JB & Big Smitty get into HEATED DEBATE about Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes stats and Coach JB explains why Patrick Mahomes on The REALEST Show on Planet ERF! Like, Comment, and Subscribe!
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@jeanfourcade
18 күн бұрын
JB, when two men reach that level of sustained success and riveting play, finding the "better player" is a pointless topic. Like trying to determine whether Bach is superior to Mozart. Nonsense. A more interesting topic would be to examine the influence of the man who changed quaterbacking for ever and ushered modern NFL (passing game, high scores): Montana (with coach Walsh).
@jctslice
16 күн бұрын
Disagree slightly. Pat is better from a pure talent standpoint. Greater is different & he's not greater than Tom
@jeanfourcade
16 күн бұрын
@@jctslice Surpassing TB12 is simply not possible, as the man's career is unique. Others may some day reach the same level of greatness, but they will have to write their own unique story.
Smitty outs himself every single day as someone that NEVER EVER does his homework on ANYTHING. Homie just says stuff. Just pisses into the wind and doesn’t care where it lands. Talks straight out of his azz. Every. Single. Show. It’s legitimately tough to listen to. Just that sheer level of ignorance. Wow.
@ismokeyftw3919
18 күн бұрын
Bro you really just stay in the comments talking about smitty ?Weirdo behavior
@CoolHandLuke813
18 күн бұрын
@@ismokeyftw3919 You keep track of commenters and their comments? Weirdo behavior.
@shawnwaufle1165
17 күн бұрын
@@ismokeyftw3919 Not true. Coolhand Luke watches the show and has been in the morning chat..Where are you at?
I watched Aikman... Mahomes is better.
I would love for Smitty to name one. Just one NFL QB that he claims to know lol.
Coach JB is 100% spot on about the QB and Wrs being protected from taking big hits, thats why Joe Montana is the greatest ever... Brady never played when helmet to helmet hits on QBs were legal
I’ve seen Brady beg the backfield ref for a flag when Suggs dove near his knees. On the flip side, I’ve also seen Brady, after being gifted a 15 yard late hit penalty, run the ball over to the ref and spike it on the turf to offset the late hit with an unsportsmanlike penalty because he didn’t agree with the late hit that would’ve benefited the pats. That was some G shit lol
May sound weird, but I think it’s a huge compliment to Mahomes that we don’t even talk about how strong his arm is anymore, and he may have the strongest arm in the league outside of Josh Allen. Contrast that to Lamar or AR5 who we still talk a lot about their running. Or Kyler off schedule (even though he’s avg on schedule). Mahomes isn’t Brady, but he’s good at so many things we gloss over the physical attributes these days, which is pretty telling.
Smitty talks way to much
Im sorry, but what great QB didnt have a great coach on the sideline? None. What great coach DIDNT have a great QB on the field, NONE!! Its a combo deal, that's why QB's are NEVER a guarantee... Come on guys. They are both great, This is literally a convo to start shit and get people fighting in the comments..
I learn more from JB about offensive scheme, breaking down QB play, and and the overall game than I do from any of the x NFL players on the pregame shows. Do you offer discount memberships to active military, veterans, police, and first responders? You might get some more members.
Mahomes gets hit late all the time without it being called. JB is trolling Mahomes like Skip trolls LeBron. 😂
LMFAOOOOOOOO this is great
I’m sick of hearing Mahomes success is because of Andy Reid. What Andy Reid won before getting Patrick? And also Tom Brady is the reason they can’t hit QB’s today.
@FabKoj-rf5kj
18 күн бұрын
It's more of Andy Reid success is bc of Maholmes!!
@cobyjohnson12
18 күн бұрын
@@FabKoj-rf5kj the guy is insinuating that the only reason Pat is doing this is because of Andy Reid. All I’m saying is if Andy Reid was what they claim he is, he would’ve won before getting Patrick.
@FabKoj-rf5kj
18 күн бұрын
@@cobyjohnson12 Maholmes made Andy and Brady made Bill!!
@KDubb-ws9zc
18 күн бұрын
When Andy and Kelce are gone and Mahomes is still gonna be balling what will the excuse be then?
@cobyjohnson12
17 күн бұрын
@@KDubb-ws9zc I’m sure some guys in the media will come up with something smh
1st time I agree with Smitty mahomes still young still has room to grow. But Brady is on another level took another organization to the ship in his 1st year in the new era and beat mahomes.
Brady has cheating scandals mahomes has none
@itsmej87
18 күн бұрын
Unless you count not calling it even 1 holding penalty on the chiefs the whole game and overturning interceptions with flags....
@ChiefKT98
18 күн бұрын
@@itsmej87 all I hear is excuses Brady actually got caught cheating
@deemity7557
15 күн бұрын
@@itsmej87translation: I’m salty that I can’t actually prove that the Chiefs have ever cheated so I’m going to just arbitrarily say “all the missed holding calls” when that’s literally how the game has literally always been. Every team holds at some point or another and things get missed for every team. KC was literally among the most penalized teams and yall are still crying😂🤣
Mahomes had a 300 yard game last SB 😂😂😂
@CoolHandLuke813
18 күн бұрын
He needed OT to get it though. That matters.
@Ares-yt8yl
18 күн бұрын
@@CoolHandLuke813 cool, still got 300. Give credit where it’s due. I get u guys don’t think he’s the shit but cmon now.
@CoolHandLuke813
18 күн бұрын
@@Ares-yt8yl oh I think Mahomes is great, personally. He’s the best in the league right now. Just two things though: One, I think it’s important to be particular and precise when talking about stats and what not. Two, I think he’s got a ways to go to be really considered a top 5 guy all time. Thats all. But don’t get me wrong. Homie is pretty damn great lol
@Ares-yt8yl
18 күн бұрын
@@CoolHandLuke813 gotcha gotcha! I ultimately agree with everything u just said. My bad on assuming. 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽 I’d prolly have Mahomes top 5 already just based on the SB’s. But yes he’s gotta keep this play up.
@CoolHandLuke813
18 күн бұрын
@@Ares-yt8yl you’re good brother. I appreciate you actually hearing me out and listening/reading. Most people don’t do that and that’s why we are where we are. Good talk though 🤝
All the rules that make it easier to be a qb were created for Brady. Andy is a great coach and had pro bowl qbs but his system was never this effective.
@deemity7557
15 күн бұрын
Fr. Everyone now wants to act like Andy was always universally praised and made Mahomes. Some people with memories remember how many times before he had Mahomes, Reid would lose playoff games with terrible clock management and questionable play calling in crucial situations. Yes, he’s had success with other qbs. He’s never even had close to this level of dominance in the playoffs until Mahomes.
Also this era has no elite QB play
Props to Brady. He is the GOAT. However, he waited until he got 7 rings before he started dissing the rules.
The modern day QBs are not as good as the early 2000s and prior imo. There’s no defense allowed anymore. All these dudes put up 4K yards easy now. QBs used to have to be elite to do that. Aikman isn’t the best example though. JB should’ve brought up Favre, Young, Marino, or Bledsoe. Aikman’s number one job was to hand it off to Emmett Smith.
@jeanfourcade
18 күн бұрын
Montana?
@4o4FoundingTitan
18 күн бұрын
@@jeanfourcade I was thinking mainly the 90s guys in their prime (since he said Aikman) putting up crazy stats, but you can most definitely throw Montana in there (although he did most his dirty work in the 80s).
BTW break down A-Rod 2020 MVP 48-5 season and let's look at what field position he was throwing the ball from...Ill wait 🤣💯
Well shit name me a throw brady or anyone else can make from.the pocket that pat can't. Mind you when he hurt his ankle he still had the highest passer rating from the pocket!
Tom Brady benefitted from the rules protecting quarterbacks because that is who the rule was put in for when Bernard Pollard ended his season.
@jctslice
16 күн бұрын
Pollard was a dirty player who took out Patriots players
Smitty refuses to understand our acknowledge the ibis in any situation. Last 50 starts Dak and Pat have similar stats and Dak is leading in more categories than pat.. winning is a team stat
Tom Brady started as a game manager who got carried in SBs and turned into a great QB. Mahomes hit the ground running and is projected to surpass Brady. Brady won SBs throwing a hundred something yards.
Smh Smitty strikes again.. Brady won 3 SB’s by 2007, & went undefeated that yr, playing in his 4th… Maholmes was better?
@theKKfighters1
18 күн бұрын
Considering that Brady threw for 1 TD pass and 1 INT in an entire SB playoff run and missed the playoffs, yeah Mahomes has been better
@4o4FoundingTitan
18 күн бұрын
Doesn’t Mahomes already have 3 as well as a couple MVPs, more pro bowls and all pro selections compared to Brady’s first 7 years? I still like Brady more, but as far as accolades within their first 7 years, Mahomes has him beat. Brady did also play during the running game and defense era too though, which is why I think stats don’t always tell the full story. Brady still the goat. Idk if Mahomes would be as great back then.
It’s good for content, but this should really be a quick conversation. 1 person says Pat is not better than Tom and then we move on to the next topic.
That football player that Was Tom Brady’s hero growing up.... yea that guy... The real GOAT...
Mahomes playing with a top 5 TE all time and a Top 5 modern WR in Hill isn’t a loaded team while having a top 10 head coach all time in Andy Reid ? 😂
@theKKfighters1
18 күн бұрын
*Top 1-2 TE top 5 coach and no longer has Hill I fixed it for you
@QuentinLassiter
18 күн бұрын
@@theKKfighters1 Never claimed he still had Hill but whatever 😂 always going to have Mahomos mad somewhere
@theKKfighters1
18 күн бұрын
@@QuentinLassiter I mean you quite literally said "playing" but fair enough I was mainly focused on the "top 5 TE" which is a comical take
@QuentinLassiter
18 күн бұрын
@@theKKfighters1 Did he not play with Hill on his team 🤦♂️, also 1 and 2 isn’t in a top 5 now ?😂 , such a 🤡 you are.
@QuentinLassiter
18 күн бұрын
@@theKKfighters1 😂 you can’t count , 1 and 2 are part of a top 5, did Mahomes not play with Hill ? Fans with revisionist history
Imagine making your entire living off of trying to shit talk one player. A failed coach and player yapping about how smart they are. 👍👍👍
Everybody says when comparing greats we hage to break down everything but how come nobody brings up the cheating brady was a part of as a negative?
Smutty needs to shut up
Smitty smoked em 😂 mahomes and it's not even close
This shouldn't even be a discussion as Tom Brady is far superior in skill sets than Mahomes ever will be
@ricosuave3377
18 күн бұрын
What crack you smoking
@ChiefKT98
18 күн бұрын
Cap
@youdub7926
18 күн бұрын
Stop trolling bro 😎
@velder22
17 күн бұрын
Lol
@mike-vc1qm
17 күн бұрын
No he’s not 😂mahomes is way more talented than Brady
They changed the rules because of Brady
Smitty trying to talk some sense into JB.
I click to hear JBs take. All I get is a loud clown fast talking himself in circles.
Is PM better than Daniel Jones
Coach ive seen Aikman,Brady, and Mahomes play at peak level during their respective primes. Aikman was like a 90s version of A-Rod but he was in a run heavy offense that didn't require him to throw the ball as much and the rules were different...i get it. But please explain why if he was TRULY ELITE that he couldn't spearhead those shitty post 1995 cowboys teams to a Superbowl in the likes of a Brady, Manning, Mahomes? You seem to never have the answer to that question or you simply try to spin the narrative before anyone can ask you that respectfully 💯. And yes i watched him unlike Smitty 🤣💯
I hate to comment twice on a string but Smitty is way off. Go back and watch 89,90, and 91 Troy. He FUCKING took it on the chin in those three seasons. I’ve never seen a QB take that much punishment and keep his nose to the grindstone. Jerry Jones caused the Cowboys one if not two Super Bowls in the 90s with his ego. You just don’t know Smitty. Troy took down hall of fame QBs in those NFC championship games. A fucking Spartan. A true warrior. You watch those games Smitty and ask yourself if Patrick could take that punishment. Respectfully. 😬
@SUPREMESCIENCE777-ew5pd
15 күн бұрын
@Some Dude I remember watching Aikman play from 1991-99-2000. In his early years he was the most accurate QB, Won the most games and Superbowls. But after 1996 season I didn't see him elevate those cowboys teams like everyone else did after their elite players left but Coach would never address that on live 🤷🏾♂️💯.
@somedude9576
15 күн бұрын
@@SUPREMESCIENCE777-ew5pd he took some hits in those early years. I watched because my old man was a cowboys fan and he would watch my dolphins. 😆
JB, when two men reach that level of sustained success and riveting play, finding the "better player" is a pointless topic. Like trying to determine whether Bach is superior to Mozart. Nonsense. A more interesting topic would be to examine the influence of the man who changed quaterbacking for ever and ushered modern NFL (passing game, high scores): Montana (with coach Walsh).
Brady had 3 super bowls in his first 6 years as well. What tf is Smitty even saying? 😂😂😂😂
@cobyjohnson12
18 күн бұрын
That’s because of those defenses.
@CoolHandLuke813
18 күн бұрын
@@cobyjohnson12 But the point was that Smitty said Mahomes won more SBs than Brady did in his first six years. Pay attention bro. Please
@cobyjohnson12
18 күн бұрын
@@CoolHandLuke813 that’s not all he said. He said compare the first 6 years instead of Brady prime years. We don’t know if these are Mahomes prime years. Keep up and pay attention. Also, saying Aikman was better is just ridiculous.
@CoolHandLuke813
18 күн бұрын
@@cobyjohnson12 Yeah cool. Only point I was on was the Super bowl one though. Oh and Smitty is a moron. Thats my other point.
@youdub7926
18 күн бұрын
Defense wins championships, plus he had a heck of a field goal kicker in Vinietsri
I agree with you JB 100% on this!
I will expose you. I will expose you.
Warren Moon over Mahomes
@soda8736
18 күн бұрын
What he ever win?
@Guy_Incognito1
18 күн бұрын
@@soda8736He won 5 titles (Grey Cup) in 6 seasons in the CFL
Aikman>Mahomes