Thank you so much for excellent videos, I am sharing with my team to get insight on latest trends
@circuitimage
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome and thanks for sharing.
@tianqifan88202 жыл бұрын
excellent video, thank you, you are best
@circuitimage
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome and thanks for sharing.
@layt012 ай бұрын
You are the best.
@circuitimage
2 ай бұрын
Hi layt01, thank you for the kind words, and nice to meet you. :)
@aaaaa-yv1zr Жыл бұрын
Hi Chen, I wonder if you can talk about "why PAM3" in the future? Some specs such as USB4 Gen4 and GDDR7 rather choose PAM3 instead of PAM4, what do you think from the technical point of view?
@circuitimage
Жыл бұрын
Hi, aaaaa, nice to meet you, and thank you for this excellent question. You can think about the PAM3 being somewhere between the PAM4 & PAM4 in terms of channel loss and design complexity. Since the data rate was < 40Gbps, the channel loss was not big enough to trade the 9dB SNR, but PM3 is good to trade the 6dB SNR by paying the power overhead.
@aaaaa-yv1zr
Жыл бұрын
@@circuitimage Hi Chen, thank you very much for the explanation!
@circuitimage
Жыл бұрын
@@aaaaa-yv1zr You are very welcome. I'm looking forward to seeing your excellent feedback in the future. :)
@shadyEA605 ай бұрын
Thank you. About TX FFE in PAM4, does pre and post apply to bits or to symbols?
@circuitimage
5 ай бұрын
Hi Shadi, You're very welcome. Thank you for the great question. It's a two-bits DAC (ditigal-anaglog conversion), and one for the MSB and the other for the LSB. Then you could do the FFE as the NRZ in each MSB & LSB path saparately. I hope it's clear. If not, I may add one more circuit image video to describe to help everyone understand it easily. Thanks, CC
@jasonchiang76472 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot. Thx
@circuitimage
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@rangababuganta7725 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Chen
@circuitimage
Жыл бұрын
Always welcome
@mengchuangao4968 Жыл бұрын
Hi Cc,in5:33,why Insertion loss>9.5dB, VrxEQ_P4>VRXeq_NRZ?the bigger swing of NRZ why through the same loss but have the smaller swing?I can't understand it,could you explain it detailly?except your reply,Best regards,mcgao
@circuitimage
Жыл бұрын
@mengchuan thanks for your feedback. That’s the insertion loss differences (delta L) around 4:30. If both insertion loss differences of NRZ and PAM4 is 15dB. Then PAM4 degrades 3dB and NRZ degrades 18dB, so the eye height of PAM4 is bigger than the NRZ.
@mengchuangao4968
Жыл бұрын
@@circuitimage Hi CC,Got it,Thanks for your explanation!
@circuitimage
Жыл бұрын
@mengchuan You're very welcome.
@circuitimage
Жыл бұрын
@@mengchuangao4968 Sure. Let me know if you have any addition questions :)
@mengchuangao4968
Жыл бұрын
@@circuitimage Thanks and I will continue study your video😀
@@aaaaa-yv1zr Thanks for asking and curious. Yes, I mainly work on SerDes. Since I like it, I would be happy to share what I know even though not many people care or watch the circuit design concepts of SerDes. :)
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Thank you so much for excellent videos, I am sharing with my team to get insight on latest trends
@circuitimage
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome and thanks for sharing.
excellent video, thank you, you are best
@circuitimage
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome and thanks for sharing.
You are the best.
@circuitimage
2 ай бұрын
Hi layt01, thank you for the kind words, and nice to meet you. :)
Hi Chen, I wonder if you can talk about "why PAM3" in the future? Some specs such as USB4 Gen4 and GDDR7 rather choose PAM3 instead of PAM4, what do you think from the technical point of view?
@circuitimage
Жыл бұрын
Hi, aaaaa, nice to meet you, and thank you for this excellent question. You can think about the PAM3 being somewhere between the PAM4 & PAM4 in terms of channel loss and design complexity. Since the data rate was < 40Gbps, the channel loss was not big enough to trade the 9dB SNR, but PM3 is good to trade the 6dB SNR by paying the power overhead.
@aaaaa-yv1zr
Жыл бұрын
@@circuitimage Hi Chen, thank you very much for the explanation!
@circuitimage
Жыл бұрын
@@aaaaa-yv1zr You are very welcome. I'm looking forward to seeing your excellent feedback in the future. :)
Thank you. About TX FFE in PAM4, does pre and post apply to bits or to symbols?
@circuitimage
5 ай бұрын
Hi Shadi, You're very welcome. Thank you for the great question. It's a two-bits DAC (ditigal-anaglog conversion), and one for the MSB and the other for the LSB. Then you could do the FFE as the NRZ in each MSB & LSB path saparately. I hope it's clear. If not, I may add one more circuit image video to describe to help everyone understand it easily. Thanks, CC
I learned a lot. Thx
@circuitimage
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
Thank you Chen
@circuitimage
Жыл бұрын
Always welcome
Hi Cc,in5:33,why Insertion loss>9.5dB, VrxEQ_P4>VRXeq_NRZ?the bigger swing of NRZ why through the same loss but have the smaller swing?I can't understand it,could you explain it detailly?except your reply,Best regards,mcgao
@circuitimage
Жыл бұрын
@mengchuan thanks for your feedback. That’s the insertion loss differences (delta L) around 4:30. If both insertion loss differences of NRZ and PAM4 is 15dB. Then PAM4 degrades 3dB and NRZ degrades 18dB, so the eye height of PAM4 is bigger than the NRZ.
@mengchuangao4968
Жыл бұрын
@@circuitimage Hi CC,Got it,Thanks for your explanation!
@circuitimage
Жыл бұрын
@mengchuan You're very welcome.
@circuitimage
Жыл бұрын
@@mengchuangao4968 Sure. Let me know if you have any addition questions :)
@mengchuangao4968
Жыл бұрын
@@circuitimage Thanks and I will continue study your video😀
Are you from Taiwan?
@circuitimage
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I am.
@aaaaa-yv1zr
Жыл бұрын
@@circuitimage 聽你的英文口音確實很像台灣人XD 你是做SERDES的工程師嗎? 好奇為什麼會開這麼冷門主題的頻道(不過我有興趣)
@circuitimage
Жыл бұрын
@@aaaaa-yv1zr Thanks for asking and curious. Yes, I mainly work on SerDes. Since I like it, I would be happy to share what I know even though not many people care or watch the circuit design concepts of SerDes. :)
@aaaaa-yv1zr
Жыл бұрын
@@circuitimage Thank you so much for sharing!!!