Dear Wyrmwood: I'm so glad you can't patent basic mathematic constructs, because the idea of restricting your Gyroid dice to the Kickstarter is the dumbest idea I've ever heard and a thousand etsy sellers will fill in the production gaps.

@Fairburne69

Ай бұрын

I've been disappointed too many times by Kickstarter campaigns in the past. So I don't do them any more. If Etsy becomes an option I will go there.

@chrismc3744

Ай бұрын

Imagine Plato using KZread to sell his original ideas. Sorry bitches. You can't ever make dice again, unless you pay me. Plat-diddy would sue nature for using his shapes. Edit: This is hilarious. They are selling us shapes that have always existed. It's a dodeca-sepa-fuckingA-decadhydretion with multi-vertices, and this fills less space in a sphere than any other thing, and the faces tell you everything. Can't ever make this. The other dice that have done this for the last several thousand years were shit compare to ours. Talk about reinventing the wheel.

@wing459

Ай бұрын

That statement also irked me. FOMO marketing, especially on something like dice just feels bad. Also they should have just left the dice roll part off if they weren't going to do it completely fairly. "Oh that one bounced bad reroll it." Proceeds to reroll the dice an inch above the marked drop height. Just accept the rolls weren't in your favour. They already stated earlier how good the standard D12 design already was, should have expected it to be one of the better rollers.

@JacobthePoshPotato

Ай бұрын

Yeah I think only the names are something they can trademark, the rest is open for anyone to use even the numbering system they took from that mathematician.

15:02 "Gyroids aren't going to be avalible after this campaign" BOO THIS MF FROM THE NOSE BLEEDS.

@AgencyNighthawk

Ай бұрын

For real, this is so dumb. If they won't do it, though, I'm sure there are plenty of companies that'll pick up some of these designs

@Fairburne69

Ай бұрын

I'm interested in these gyroid dice but if I can't get them in the store I'm out. Personal preference.

@PaintBeforeAssembly

Ай бұрын

This is some exceptional bollocks if, like me, KZread suggested this video to you just hours after the campaign has already ended. Oh well.

@SquishyTheBerries

Ай бұрын

It's a manipulative marketing tactic. They create false scarcity by making them a "limited time" thing and that makes people rush to buy it so they won't miss out. Usually making a product takes time, effort, and involves some risk that it might not sell. This method and marketing also removes the risk of not selling well and puts it onto the consumer. Now instead of them risking excess stock that won't get sold as easily, they trick people into buying them out of fear and put the risk on them of regretting their purchase. I believe this is a immoral and wrong method to market your products, especially if you claim to care about your customers. Sadly I can't say it is at all uncommon right now. You see everyone has a makeship product, a youtooz, or some other limited time items. These are made with underpaid labor overseas with horrible quality control but they sell out exclusively because they create false scarcity. They sow anxiety and FOMO to convince you to buy a garbage product at a premium price.

@Fairburne69

Ай бұрын

@@SquishyTheBerries WyrmWood does make great products here in the US. I have the coffee gaming table and its the nicest table I have ever owned.

Bruh you must, MUST, sell the Gyroids on the website. Mark um up by $5 or something, but you MUST keep selling them. You can't let these mathematical marvels vanish into the ether! Please, I beg of you!!!!!

@silvermages2

Ай бұрын

Agreed I was looking forward to Christmas Money so I could buy more

@rendarcrow

Ай бұрын

I agree ❤. Also, those big versions would make amazing learning toys for toddlers and kids. Heck I'd buy them for myself lol. Round the edges and make them out of foam. Give each one a specific background color that matches with its corresponding number color. Make the color and number scheme go from the color spectrum, 1 is red, and so on.

This episode would've been the perfect oportunity for a crossover with numberphile or standup maths

@VagabondTE

Ай бұрын

Yeah, also Henry Sagerman, whose name was on that paper. (Definitely check out his KZread if you love math stuff). I suggested all these guys when they first mentioned looking at other shapes for dice. It would have been an amazing collaboration for Diceapaloosa.

@novatheorem

Ай бұрын

Oh bless, had they done something with Matt from Standupmaths, I would be a lot poorer.

@dulshafer

Ай бұрын

That last G12 roll was definitely a Parker Roll.

@simmonslucas

Ай бұрын

That would have been great

@Kram1032

Ай бұрын

honestly an even better one would've been Henry Segerman from Dice Labs

14:28 So the idea about this is cool and it is a clever way to do this in order to make the most fair die for rolling *averages*. This might not be the most fair numbering though. I'm thinking of the particular ways casino dice are made for example, they optimize not for rolling the average the most, but for rolling every side equally often (by specifically making the pips deeper or shallower so the weight distribution stays the same). What I mean by this is in your variant, you can end up with a die that heavily favours a certain cluster of numbers and almost never rolls the opposite side. This die would be "fair" in a sense that it will roll the average (10,5 for a D20) very well, but it is not fair in a sense through which some numbers are less favoured as they're surrounded by single digits, making that side of the die heavier (less engraving = less material gone). This basically comes down to what your definition of a "fair die" is. In your case it's "a fair die rolls average", while I think that the more conventional definition is "a fair die rolls every face the same amount of times". This is te whole "regular D20" vs. "Spindown D20" debate basically

@kennyvanvliet7569

Ай бұрын

Maybe you missed the whole "same sum of numbers surrounding any given side/vertex" part. But that's the idea, to never have a number that is surrounded by single digits. Sure you're not getting into absolutely perfect weight distribution, but that would take a lot of time and investment to ensure.

@Chaosghoul

Ай бұрын

@@kennyvanvliet7569 Please re-read what I wrote. And yes, that this doesn't make for a perfect weight distribution is exactly the issue I was talking about. This arrangement optimizes for maufacturing defects and to have the die roll on average. That is not the conventional definition of a "fair die" though as that optimizes for every face getting rolled an equal amount of times. Those are two different things

@hugofontes5708

Ай бұрын

Thank you for bringing that up, but I think that considering the cheaper classic dice, makers probably don't have that much care with weight distribution. If one is willing to pay more, then they should absolutely have your argument in mind when choosing!

@Chaosghoul

Ай бұрын

@@hugofontes5708 These dice are definitely in the "willing to pay more" category though

@hugofontes5708

Ай бұрын

@@Chaosghoul yes, that's my point on why people need to be aware of what you said here before choosing

FINE!!! Stop bullying me with Jason being charming as hell as he completely nerds out about dice shapes... I backed Diceapoolza, I want those gyroid's.

I can’t wait to support these! This is long overdue! Oh… the Kickstarter ended yesterday. Great work PR team.

On this episode of Nerdapalooza. We talk about Gyroid dice.

As a recently graduated college student in geology, coccolithophores are ancient, historic, and microscopic algae found on the seafloor. Felt like this is a review relearning dodecahedron and hexahedrons all over again. As a geologist, I approve, Im in the campaign and sold. These gyroids will be the star of my campaigns

Some might say too much roll. There's going to be a lot more "No it's under your player desk... to your right. No no YOUR right! Yeah there."

@aaronbredon2948

Ай бұрын

Right. Of the Platonic solids, the 6 sided and 8 sided dice roll best. The 12 sided and 20 sided tend to roll too far unless stopped. And the 4 sided just doesn't roll. Significantly, dice roll less when the edges are sharp, and more when the edges are rounded. Cube and octahedron roll well regardless, tetrahedron doesn't, no matter what. Dodecahedrons and icosahedrons need sharp edges. Once the edges become rounded, they roll too far.

So hyped for my Gem gyroids. But one thing I NEED in my life is the full version of the diceapalooza track at the end of these videos to jam to 24/7

It's not just the distance that's better but the rotation too.

@ouisi7

Ай бұрын

D4 has left the chat

I initially backed this project on Kickstarter. Then cancelled my pledge. Why? Because the gyroid G10 dice they are proposing is numbered not with 0 to 9 digits (like standard non-gyroid D10 dice) but with 1 to 10 numbers. Which is kind of annoying when you try pairing a gyroid G100 dice with a gyroid G10 dice to generate a percentage because... according to the creators you then have to ADD the results of the two dice. Basically you have to learn and remember how to use this pair of dice because it's not working as we are all used to with a pair of one standard non-gyroid D100 and one standard non-gyroid D10 (that you're not adding as one is giving you the tens and the other the units). Examples with a G100 + G10 pair: 00 (on the G100) + 10 (on the G10) = 10... 00 + 6 = 6... 10 + 1 = 11... 90 + 10 = 100... etc. If it's something you can live with then by all means go ahead and get those. In terms of shapes (but IMHO not numbering for G10 dice) they are a great idea. And I have others dice I got from previous Wyrmwood KS campaigns and I'm really happy with the quality.

This is the best Wyrmwood video and I will die on this hill.

Thank you for making this! I've been waiting for more info on Gyroids, and you guys did not disappoint. I finished this video and went straight to the Kickstarter to back!

Do we want dice to roll a long distance? Because the closer a die is to a sphere the more it rolls but also the more carefully it needs to be made so there's no bias. A D4 on the other hand can be quite badly made and still work.

Nerdiest episode ever. Loved it

WHY NOT MAKE THEM AVILBLE POST KICKSTARTER????? like, I get it, trying to build hype, but if this'll take of you'd literally have a monopoly and something that makes you completely uniqe (at least until other dice makers catch up) I understand not commiting to it as, yeah, you have no idea how it'll go and it might follow in the way of the high variance dice, but to straight up shut it down is closing the door on what can be a major opportunity imo

@JustinShands

Ай бұрын

At least part of the reason is marketing... FOMO is a powerful Kickstarter booster, and they're still actively promoting the Kickstarter... if the Kickstarter is a huge success and they're seeing a big market for it, I wouldn't be surprised if we see gyroid dice continue longer term... or at least show up as part of future crowdfunding campaigns. As much as I hate to say it, having "exclusive dice designs" that only become available during crowdfunded campaigns is probably a good way to squeeze a little extra engagement out of the campaign... a year from now I still probably won't be in the market for an MGT, but if I wind up needing more G4 dice and the only way to get them is the next MGT campaign, I'd probably back at the cheap level to be able to get those dice. Plus, if they introduce different designs each time, they'll lure the dice goblins back repeatedly. I can talk myself out of buying a second set of dice in this campaign by choosing my favorite, but will I be able to do the same a year from now when they're offering something I might like MORE than the design I already have?

@Berelore

29 күн бұрын

Yea it's dumb, and I missed the Kickstarter. So, since I'll have to recreate them for myself anyway, I guess I'll sell them on Etsy...

@okashiromi5541

29 күн бұрын

@@Berelore can I have your store link?

The G4 is useful, but I'd get all the rest confused for each other. I don't want to have to inspect my dice to figure out which one is which, I'm just grabbing for a few to roll.

@quigath_

Ай бұрын

This they need to address. Cool dice but useless during gaming.

@WyrmLyfe

Ай бұрын

Why? They're all different shapes 🙂

@Fairburne69

Ай бұрын

@@WyrmLyfe I've grabbed D20's thinking they were D12's before and D12's thinking they were d20's before. Same is true of D8's and D10's. Maybe I'm wrong here but it looks like this would happen even more often with these gyroid dice. Of course I still like the idea but I prefer to buy things and get them right away once they become available online. I hope you change your mind with this one and continue to produce more and more dice with these new shapes and sell them at our website because I like them even if they are harder to identify.

@FelicityUwU

Ай бұрын

Maybe ink the numbers different colours? But that's really just a bandaid fix.

@nickcody7257

Ай бұрын

That was what I was thinking as well. I just use standard d12s that are numbered I II III IV three times. Once you have a set of those, the draw of the other odd shapes seems less useful.

*waves at Jason from the rabbit hole* I dove down here a few decades ago and wondered why nobody came out with these dice back in the 80s. Especially when I saw my first 30-sider (actually numbered 01-30) that we used to randomize what first level Mage spells a Magic User could access.

My biggest concern was being able to differentiate between each die and I'm still not perfectly sold on the point made that each side is different. The G4 and the G10/G100, and the G8 is similar to the G20. Not exactly, but seem to be similar enough to still warrant concern. Either way, I may still be convinced to get a set because the idea is still really cool!

@smith186

Ай бұрын

Same. But I took a look at the campaign and some of the resin dice sets have intentional color differences between the different die sizes. I think I'm going to go with a gyroid Sea Glass - maybe the faces will be enough, but worst case I should be able to pick them out by color after a while.

@Joshua_Tymchyn

Ай бұрын

@@smith186 Yeah, I was thinking of getting a gyroid set in Rainbow Road specifically so they are each a different color. I also love the idea of this set because it reminds me of old D&D kits that had multicolored dice. :)

This may be the nerdiest video I have seen on a purely nerdy subject in a long long time.

There are 4 60-sided Catalan solids, three of which have never, to my knowledge, been made as commercially available dice. All the d60s I own are deltoidal hexacontahedra, but there's also the triakis Icosahedron, pentakis dodecahedron, and pentagonal hexacontahedron. That the d20s are mathematically balanced is nice, but not looking to higher multiples of 20 feels like a missed opportunity. I think it's also worth noting that, since the icosahedron has 5 faces per vertex, and the average value for a D20 face is 10.5it's impossible for every vertex to have the same sum(the sum would need to be 52.5) and that mathematically balanced D20s instead have 6 vertices with a sum of 52 and 6 with a sum of 53.

@Pjotr1998

Ай бұрын

I was about to comment the same, glad I saw your comment. All d60's I own are also deltoidal hexacontahedra. Not that big a fan of the 2 with triangular faces, the triakis icosahedron is not very well suited to be numbered with its thin triangles, and the pentakis dodecahedron feels in some way wonky to me. But it would be cool to see a pentagonal hexacontahedron. Especially if they were available in both chiralities. Sadly non of these polyhedra would fix the numbering issue, as they all have vertices of odd order. For a perfectly balanced numbering you would need to go up to a 120 sided disdyakis triacontahedron, having vertices of order 4, 6 and 10. Although, using these for a d20 numbering would be a bit overkill imho.

@JefferyMewtamer

Ай бұрын

@@Pjotr1998 I'm not the biggest fan of the kis platonics(triakis tetrahedron excluded) either, especially since they are redundant to the deltoidal and pentagonal icositetra/hexacontahedra, but I still want a full set of Catalan dice if only for the sake of completion, even if I can't think of a good reason to have 3 distinct d12(I'm including the classic platonic version as well), 4/5 distinct d24, and 4/5 distinct d60. Then again, I also want a complete set of Archimedean dice even knowing they won't be fair, I'm just a massive geometry geek with a passion for polyhedra(and an addiction to alliteration).

Platonic solids or bust. Cool science experiment!

@Smajtastic

Ай бұрын

Well, maybe, but the D4 can still go fuck itself

Would Jason be willing to publish his information on the gyroid dice? Like, the intended dihedral angles and sizeing? I understand wanting to make them limited but establishing a standard would be invaluable. We could even call it the Wyrmwood standard. I would even like having a name for that more fair D20 mapping. Countdown dice is the only mapping that really has a name so it would be nice to ask "does this dice have the Wyrmwood number mapping?" Or if that feels like taking credit then give it a name pointing to that paper.

@JustinShands

Ай бұрын

Yeah, especially if they don't intend on selling these in the future, it would sure be nice if they made the concepts available to the larger community.

What about the weight distribution of the dice? I'm honestly surprised that wasn't mentioned as weighted dice are a real thing and imperfections in craftsmanship can cause even the best of shapes to roll far less than the desired average.

I know I am late to reply on this, but I believe I know the reason the d20 went the farthest. Dropping the dice from the same height only controls the speed the dice is traveling when it reaches the bottom of the tower. But this is only part of the dice's inertia. The weight / mass of the dice is also going to effect the distance it travels. So, even though the d20 is not the most round of the dice, it can still travel further due to its higher mass. This mass does two things that increases its roll distance. One, it increases the rebound distance it travels between each time it impacts the horizontal surface, ie. It bounces further on each hop. Two, it will take more friction to slow it down, the same way a heavier automobile cannot break as quickly as a lighter automobile, assuming the same breaking system.

I can admit that, you sold me on the dice campaign from the Gyroid dice. Thank you guys!

my gm already regularly throws his dice into the battle mat knocking over minis, this would only make it worse

@FelicityUwU

Ай бұрын

XD

How about a link to Bob Bosch’s paper in the video description?

@Kram1032

Ай бұрын

would've been amazing if you had cameo'd in the video :D

I wasn't sure about the G10/G100 numbering, but taking away the confusion of "00+0" and making it just "add them together" makes this a win.

Numbering doesn't matter much if the shapes and weighting is perfect, and the rolling is fair - you need a uniform dendity material, you need to machine the numbers and fill them with material of the same density. And long rolling distance is BAD. The cube and octahedron are ideal. So your dice are not good for use unless something stops them from rolling off the table. And I have had list of dice go off the table.

@dilkertoquendo8219

Ай бұрын

Dice rolling tray :)

@aaronbredon2948

Ай бұрын

@dilkertoquendo8219 any small dice rolling tray negates any advantage of long rolling distance and reverts the best dice to roll like traditional tetrahedron d4s. Any large enough rolling tray wipes out your table space. It is far better to have cubes and octahedrons and sharp edged dodecahedrons and icosahedrons (and modified 10 sided variants of the octahedron). Those shapes roll enough to randomize, but not usually enough to constantly roll off the kitchen table.

shoutout to henry segerman! He makes dice. He makes weird dice of weird sizes and shapes. they are called the dice lab. speaking of, they could have done a 60 sided G20. They shouldn’t, the normal D20 rolls well enough, but they could have.

Too damn difficult to find the dice you actually need with the gyroids. Having some d4's might be cool .. but the others will just cause you to be looking for the right dice on your turn when initiative comes around.

The format of this episode reminded me instantly of the podcasting format, and it was very cool. I'm down for more of this. =D

1. I’m buying them. So no worries there. 2. How many sets … unsure. Honest question, and I’m writing this about 10 min in, but what is the point of a G6 when a D12 already exists. Does the G12 help out something more than just doing 1-6 twice on a D12?

Great video and presentation worthy of Home Shopping Network. I love the rotating die! There is too much hype and by trying to solve a problem that really isn’t a problem, your dice will cause more problems at the table. I would be interested in jumbo dice if at least 2 inches in diameter. Those would look nice in my collection. My d4 issue was easily solved by buying blank white D8s and numbering them 1-4 twice. I marked the edges with a red sharpie to make them stand out.

Barrel dice can have any number of sides, odd number of sides works too.

Love the attention to detail, Jason!!!!

Might be interesting for my Unusual Dice collection, but the reality is that I _don't_ want my dice rolling like that. When you game in smaller spaces, a simple roll is better. The only way those would be better is if they rolled 'fairer', which I doubt is the case.

How did I know Henry Sherman's name was going to be on that paper?! How did I know?! Oh yeah.. Because he's the math GOAT!

I was part of the kickstarter and am excited about getting the dice. I'm planning to firm up a hematite set of the gyroids. I do ask this though: Will you sell the 3D print pattern? I love the idea of printing a large version of a gyroid with a 3D printer like the large ones presented in your video.

So now I can have a set of dice that are more likely to end up on the floor???

Bobby’s t shirt is a great Easter egg :)

For how mathematic this video was, I'm hurt that they eyeballed the average roll distance when there was A MEASURING TAPE ON THE TABLE

Can we see some gyroid float tests?

Have you seen the Dice Lab's D4s of equal width with G2 smooth surfaces (Orbiform D4s)? - Make for extremely well-rolling D4s Would love these Gyroid Dice getting that treatment additionally to what you already did!

I may be stupid, but you said you needed radii congruency however, the Rhombic Dodecahedron don't have a circumsphere, does it ? So it does not have that radii congruency

regarding the numbering on the G10 and G100: So G10 -> 10 + G100 -> 10 = a total roll of 20? Seems like they should've both been 0-indexed if they were meant to be rolled together, no? The way it is now, you've inked the G100 -> 00 a different color(see 9:08 in the video), but if I'm understanding it correctly, to roll a 100 you would need to roll a 90 and a 10, right? I'm even more confused with the "High Numbers" saying G10: 90 when it goes from 1 -> 10...

@VagabondTE

Ай бұрын

No, I think they messed up on screen. When Jason said the "zero is high" I believe he meant that it's not a zero. I know this gets confusing but the easiest way to figure out is just to remember that there is no zero between 1 and 100 and there is no zero on a d10. The single digit zero is 10. And the double-digit zero is 100.

@VagabondTE

Ай бұрын

I know people go back and forth on this but if Jason says the "zero is high" then I'm pretty sure what they put on screen was wrong.

@JustinShands

Ай бұрын

The issue is that most people will roll the single d10 FAR more often than the pair for a d100 roll, and for those rolls, it definitely feels better to hope for a 10 than hope for a 0.

@VagabondTE

Ай бұрын

To be clear.. A G10 roll of 10 + a G100 roll of 10 = 10 When you are rolling a d10 by itself, the 0 is 10. When you are rolling the d10 with a d100 the 0 is 0.

@spideray

Ай бұрын

​@@VagabondTE I get that if I treat the 10 as a 0 in all percentile rolls it works intuitively outside of 00 + 0 which is 100, and that's why I thought it should've just been a 0 instead of a 10. Ultimately it's preference, but a novel solution to this could be inking all the 00s and then only the 0 of the 10s on the G10. This way it still shows a 10, but highlights the 0 when rolling as a percentile.

The huge variance in roll distance seems like positive evidence for a highly randomized surface. It's variance in momentum loss shows that it is hitting sides and rolling edges at more random intervals. Whereas most of the 'standard' dice sat in clusters.

Damn. Missed the campaign by two days :(. The fire glass is exactly what I have been looking for (with appropriate detail to randomness). Super hope this can be sold publicly later!

All the high faces need to have the different color. Idc if its the logo, but it looks bad when only some or one of the high numbers are a different color

Please make them available after the Kickstarter!!!

Why not roll one a thousand times to prove it's more fair?

These are cool but how do you identify them quickly in a pile of dice during a game? They all look like D20s

@WyrmLyfe

Ай бұрын

Get good. The high numbers are also highlighted

The issue I see for gyroid dice (outside of the d4 cuz screw that bare foot killer) is that it will be a pain to realize which dice I am holding unless they are in a labeled area.

@nikkishins

Ай бұрын

They mentioned in the video that the face shapes will give you a large hint. Once you're using them regularly you'll pick up what's what.

I feel like Matt Parker would like this episode

@erikdavis3584

Ай бұрын

They need to colab!

@wompastompa3692

Ай бұрын

Henry Segerman.

@BrandonGraham

Ай бұрын

Maybe they tried and he asked them to roll each die a thousand times and record the results, so they took a pass.

@bigmikebeebee

Ай бұрын

I think Matt would point out that normal polyhedral dice have exactly the same statistical probability of rolling each number as these "gyroids". The roundness of a die, placement of the numbers, and roll distance have no discernible effect on its "fairness", assuming we're using a dice tower and not using loaded dice.

This might be my favorite Wyrmlyfe video of all time.

I am pretty sure Lou Zocchi started this drive toward perfect accurate dice back in the 80's with GameScience dice. Glad to see another company taking a crack at this in the modern era.

@mortisangelica

Ай бұрын

Lou Zocchi is crazy he tested a d5 to make in perfectly fare die and has a single die that can roll every die in rpg games. The guy has contributed multiple titles to gaming. They need to do an interview with him because he is the OG dice guy.

I just backed my first ever Kickstarter Jason sold me! I gotta have some gyroids!

How does making the opposite face sum constant make the die fair? Seems to me if there's a bias toward the largest or smallest this maximises the harm.

First but seriously surprise Monday Wyrmwood video, woot!

Calling @standupmaths for even more of a deep dive please!

Can we have the gyroid's as extras on the european mgt kickstarter?😅

How do you spend most of the video nerding out about the perfection of the shapes and number distribution and then frickin' eyeball the average roll distance with a damn tape measure right there?

These are amazing and need to be sold ❤. Also, those big versions would make amazing learning toys for toddlers and kids. Heck I'd buy them for myself lol. Round the edges and make them out of foam. Give each one a specific background color that matches with its corresponding number color. Make the color and number scheme go from the color spectrum, 1 is red, and so on.

I feel like this video needed Jason in a Tweed Jacket and glasses. . Professor Dice!

Why don't the 4-, 6-, and 12-sided dice all use the same geometry? Just tripled and doubled from the 12-sider.

@wiikinger76

27 күн бұрын

exactly my point. If one of these has the perfect shape, why not use it for all dices insted of creating a new geometry for every dice?

Will add to the voices asking that you sell these on your store. Otherwise, other dicemakers will pick up the demand. I only learned about these TODAY

I just managed to get enough money for floor seats thanks to a gallery downtown selling one of my pieces! Glad to finally be a part of something Wyrmwood related. Now I just need to figure out which resin set to get. I’m considering both Rainbow Road and Sea Glass, but they all look good…

I love all of these words! Amazing!

are the gemstone dice safe to roll in the tower? ive been seeing how harder surfaces could damage the dice

I think it's a massive oversight to not have all of the high faces be a different color.

@lennartb

Ай бұрын

I think they do in certain colorways, right?

@increditaco5169

Ай бұрын

​@@lennartbI mean in this video only one was and they even said for the g6 only one face will have the shield

@whydidyoutubeaddthis

Ай бұрын

​@@lennartbyes. If they aren't all high numbers are the same color I won't be buying lol

@VagabondTE

Ай бұрын

Something to keep in mind is that a lot of people out there have trouble with color. You can always ink in some different colors yourself, tho. That's the easiest part of making dice.

will there be single G4s available in the campaign? i want extra to replace in my other sets lol

@WyrmLyfe

Ай бұрын

Yes!

@JustinShands

Ай бұрын

Yes, they don't have a direct backing level for it, but you can add them on in the backerkit after the campaign. That said, if you back a full set of dice, you're committing to getting a set of dice, you can't repurpose those funds to buy only g4 dice. For that reason, I backed the minimum amount and plan to buy a bunch of g4 in the backerkit later for extra funds.

The “high faces comfirmed” in the edit on screen is different from what was actually said.

@VagabondTE

Ай бұрын

Yeah I'm going to go with what Jason said. "Zero is high"

@Jovi_97

Ай бұрын

@@VagabondTE - Apparently it is like what was on the screen. So the high face on the G100 is 90 and the low Is 00 - and the high on the G10 is 10 and the low is 1. This is so when doing normal rolls with the G10 it makes sense. And with percentage rolls you add it together (00+10 = 10 and 90 + 10 = 100) I don’t know what to think about it because it’s different from what I’m used to. But I guess it works and I’m not angry about it.

@VagabondTE

Ай бұрын

@@Jovi_97 Yes I understand Jason's method now. But the screen is still wrong. The screen says "High numbers: G10: 90 G100: 00". That's wrong no matter how you do it. Anyway, the conclusion that I've come to is that since they've changed the 0 to a 10, they should have also changed the double zero to a regular zero, or left it blank. That would reinforce their method.

@Jovi_97

Ай бұрын

@@VagabondTE - Oh yeah, I didn’t go back to check what they wrote on screen again, you’re right ^^ The double zero doesn’t bother me, but I do agree that it would make sense your way.

Why don't they list WEIGHTS as a condition for fair dice? Engraving a 20 on one side is going to remove a heck of a lot more material than engraving a 1. This will cause the 20 side of the dice to weigh less and not be fair. Also, adding paint will make the 20 side heavier than the 1, etc. Come on guys.

This video- just glorious!

I want them. I need them. I missed the backing window. FML

@WyrmLyfe

8 сағат бұрын

You can order in the next 30 days on our website!! Check it out 🤘

Im going to be buying a set of these for each player at my d&d table with a link to this youtube explanation. They are too cool!

This is cool and all, but do you guys make custom sized DM screens?

Man I hated d4s until this video. Quoting Fry: "Shut up & take my money."

But the primary function of a die is that its not predictable, not that it has a lot of revolutions per throw. If my D4 makes 1 or 2 turns then drops dead I prefer that over something I have to wait for to settle. If my classic dice move a couple inches I prefer that over something I have to chase across the table.

@WyrmLyfe

29 күн бұрын

Thanks for the input!

I CAD modeled these to print and send to you guys and lo and behold you already have big bois. You ruined my gift ahha

I think of these dice as the polar opposite of Zocchi dice, where it feels like the designer is saying “screw elegance and mathematics, I’m gonna forget about corners existing, squeeze plastic into a bunch of freaky shapes, roll-test whatever comes out and keep whichever ones work”

So any sets with a d12 instead of a g12? 🤣🤣🤣

I'm kind of curious about this paper Jason found regarding numbering the D20

G10 and G100 are wrong: Yeahh i didnt know what was happening here but now I hate it lol. G10 goes from 1-10 G100 goes from 00-90 Rolling 100 you do 10+90, but the 00 is marked as high both on the die and in the video, despite being the low number.

@VagabondTE

Ай бұрын

You don't add 10 + 90. You shouldn't look at it as adding. You are combining the tens place with the ones place. A 10 + 90 = 90

@VagabondTE

Ай бұрын

Okay, I saw your comment and I see what you mean. The problem is when rolled by itself the zero isn't the low number. So it's going to upset people either way and there isn't really a way to fix it. Except for maybe (_0) But that would be weird.

@hjewkes

Ай бұрын

@@VagabondTE yeah thats a good point, man this one stinks. clearly they just needed to make a 100 sided die lol

@VagabondTE

Ай бұрын

@@hjewkes Well there's always the Zocchihedron by Lou Zocchi.

@Tom_a_youtube_commentor

Ай бұрын

@@VagabondTE There was a video years ago where it came out that Jason really does interpret his dice in that way.

love the diceapalooza =) but also need to say its day #3 for the card throwing challenge i am sending out to Doug =)

Someone needs to get this information to Wil Wheaton. Maybe it can finally break his dice curse!

So is Jason getting a new tattoo on his arm with these dice shapes?

I literally JUST heard about these... and... they're GONE?

Congrats, you made a more compllicated dice.

So according to your own definitions, a d8 is fairer than your g8? Because you had to choose between meeting the circumradius/circaradius criteria and the dihedral angle criterion, whereas a regular octohedron can meet all three criteria at the same time.

Oh no! I'm late to the party! I'd love some gyroids

How about The out carved material volume of numbers? It seems like your G20 actually is weighted to slightly prefer two digit numbers ovet single digit numbers!

This was the video I was waiting for. Oooo yeah, diceapalooza right in the face.

i have been advertised to and i am acknowledging that. on the other hand if i had money i would absolutely buy these

When backing a Floor Seat and beyond, are the Gyroids considered one of the included Dice Sets of 7?

I would be more than happy to get a set of these dice, but I don't get the decision to make them a limited series locked behind a kickstarter. These seem like they deserve to be a stock option on the main store. You demonstrated them, so you've already made some. Is it to get numbers on interest before investing in creating a surplus backstock? Kinda bummed. I don't feel comfortable encouraging this kind of business practice, so it'll have to be a pass for me unless Wyrmwood changes their minds later and releases gyroid dice on the main page where it can be bought directly without backing a kickstarter.

Hearing about this for the first time "cant get it outside of Kickstarter" Tf.