Why Not Quit? Featuring Julie Roys
Following a grueling season of investigative reporting, Julie Roys considers: Why continue shining a light when doing so comes at such a high personal cost?
If you’re struggling to keep fighting for truth and justice, this talk will not just encourage, but inspire you to keep going.
This program was also released as an audio podcast and transcript on Nov. 28, 2023:
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I am so incredibly thankful for your mission Julie. You are fighting the good fight.
Keep on calling out evil! God's got you!
Please don't quit! We need you!
Your example of courage spurred me to speak up against the spiritual abuse at my former church. I have left that church and on the road to recovery from spiritual abuse. What you do is incredibly important.
Thank you, Julie for doing this unto the Lord, for loving truth, for hating evil and for being brave.
My Warrior Sister!! God bless you Julie
I’ve heard of very few leaders discuss the possibility of becoming a type of wolf THEMSELVES in their pursuit of justice. Julie you HAVE considered this and for that scope of understanding of human nature as well as your own possible inclinations I thank you and value your judgment. While the Lord is using you to help bring justice to His house I pray you are well able to stay close to His superabundant, loving heart. You are loved.
Thank you Julie, I believe speaking truth is love. God bless you.
You are a brave women, Julie, as well as an articulate speaker. May God's Grace be upon you.
Thank you for the work you do in submission to your calling in the Lord Julie. Your work of breaking up the fallow ground is so necessary if the true Church is ever going to shine forth in this dark world. May the Lord do the work in the spiritual realm needed for God's people to wake up and be the salt and light we were created to be. This message is spot on in pointing us to Jesus, our strength and only hope. Grace and peace to you, in His wonderful Name.
Your courage and integrity impresses me Julie. I am sorry for all the pain you went through.
Julie, I know you don't have a huge platform, but after all the abuse I experienced and saw experienced in church, you are like a saint to me.
Thank you for not quitting
I admire you for your bravery Julie! Thank you for all that you do. ❤
Wow, Julie, thank you for your vulnerability and rawness in communicating your own journey of suffering for the sake of the Gospel. I've always appreciated how genuine you are during interviews and that you don't gloat over the failings of others on whom you report. Keep that tender heart towards Jesus.
Thank you for being brave for the actual Church and for abuse victims.
Wow! The curruption of church reflects structral and foundational flaws that few are willing or able to address, and the so the abuse will continue. It's hard to tear down somthing you have built when it becomes clear that it is not of God.
Thanks for this encouraging message! 💙🙏
This is really powerful for me. The culture has to shift so it is no longer acceptable and is called out in a loud way with public prevention strategies in place so people can identify when it is happening in their own relationships, families, and communities and are supported to stop it by accessing community and police support. It also has to be understood that it is not just Pastors doing things, lots of church goers do these things and it is the men, women, and community who enable it in every day interactions. If people started repenting that would change the game, but everyone is afraid of the consequences. Most of these people have connections to each other in business and something to lose so that is why its covered up and then consequences do not actually help to change the person, they just punish them, if that. The Bible showed lots of people having consequences even after Jesus so I think there can be grace and mercy along with consequences that are more restorative. Education has to be part of the culture shift along with the accountability so we can find a way to be safe and love those who harm from a distance when needed while those who are not at risk can love them up close and continue to hold them accountable, then maybe they will be able to change. I love the focus on Jesus and how we can't do this for anyone else because the humans will let us down, but He won't and its all about becoming more like Him.
Beautiful!
Julie we are making a difference. Scott McKnight's book on The Toxic Church. Seminary presidents are examining their recruiting and education curriculum in hopes of graduating humble servants. We can't quit.
I was helped by the sincerity.
2:40 - "The evil evangelical industrial complex..." That's good. Never thought of it that way.
What an encouraging message. Thank you and may God blessed you.
I am so blessed to hear this and understand better your ministry, thank you so much for posting this conference. I have not been able to get back into church because of church hurt, but I study the Bible and stay close to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I can say healing is starting as I listened to you share. God Bless you 🙏❤️
Truth always divides. Always. Or unites when pursued together as the Body of Christ.
Great courageous talk!
We are in the period of the great falling away
Chsitendom without Christ is not Christianity
So thankful for this vital ministry & your sacrificial willingness to use your courage for the sakebof the 'C'hurch and the vulnerable, & to stand steadfast when people target you trying to get you to cowar and fear them. Thankful to God for you.
@flowergirl-pp7vz
Ай бұрын
Amen 🙏
Look Julia I am a survivor my self I had my first sexual encounter with a man at 6 years of age and was held captive in a basement by a repeat sex offender when I was in my 20s. The first thing I learned as a truth bearer is if I don't have any one but Jesus Christ as my backer that is all I need. Sometimes God will separate us and cause us to be alone because he doesn't want us to have any one but him
@desireehelms8012
3 ай бұрын
It's all about being honest and I am not afraid to tell the truth about my own flaws and that God is the very first person that I talk to. How ever I do not owe anyone else an explanation for what I do because I belong to Jesus and to be a demonstration of Jesus Christ that is what it's all about.
@desireehelms8012
3 ай бұрын
Fake Preachers are all about Glorifying them selves and there worship them selves as a God and they teach others to do also because they are occult.
@flowergirl-pp7vz
Ай бұрын
He is a jealous God and He wants us to draw closer to Him!!! Amen! Your post was an encouragement to me. 😊
They are not talking about sin! Just motivational speaking
@ezbody
8 ай бұрын
Don't you have enough of sin talk at home?
@Marlaina
8 ай бұрын
@@ezbodyThe churches where sin and repentance and the reason why Jesus died and that we are to bare fruit etc are NOT preached is the churches with the most abuse and other sins. Church is not a social club that you attend for the light show and concert and then tips on how to make more money and get the raise at work. It's where we go to become more Christ-like and confronting our sin nature is the first step to that.
What a mess! Lord, forgive us!!
You are brave. You are needed. May God empower you more ..❤Love from India .
You are an encouragement to me, and I love that you are weird! I am too :D
Thank you, Julie! For not quitting... your message was a huge encouragement, and it brought me so much hope ❤❤❤
Kirkegard stared long enough into the abyss to see Jesus
As a childhood survivor of sexual abuse which led me down a path of sexual addiction, I can personally affirm everything your ministry is trying to expose within the church. Though my abuse in the early 70's took place in my home, it was swept under the rug by my parents who did not have the tools to deal with the trauma and the whole thing was never discussed. Years later my twin sister's history of sexual abuse, that started at the age of 6 by a custodian in a nearby school, and subsequently continued by my brother in Law who had married my older sister Sue to get to my twin sister, Angela, and he sexually abused her from the age of twelve till about 18. He even made Angela have an abortion, my older sister Sue, who had married him, was also sexually abused and Sue eventually committed suicide, who could no longer live with the shame of what she knew about this monster and what he did. Our family found this out at Sue funeral and we all disowned him. Needless to say, my twin sister is highly manic and suffers from unimaginable PTSD, worse than me. By God's grace I was saved in 1985 in a profound conversion similar to Paul's on his way to Damascus. But my twin sister's history of pain and suffering has created such a broken person that she has completely disowned me for reasons unknown to me. Why I'm I sharing all this? My wife nd I have tried many churches over our 37 year marriage and the issue with ALL of them was not them trying to hide anything (at least we think so) but more to do with the statistical reality that sexual abuse SURVIVORS are sitting in the pews in front of them nd they NEVER MENTION IT. My wife and I started attending a small a very small church last year, and as we got to know people and sharing more personal details of our lives, including surviving childhood sexual abuse, we realized one Sunday morning that in front of us sitting in the pews, were at least three women survivors of childhood sexual abuse! And here is the reason I'm writing all this, though well meaning, the very young pastor, is not able to, or worse, will not acknowledge this reality sitting in front of him every Sunday morning as he preaches gospel messages, all the while forgetting to speak on God's grace for the wounded, the broken hearted. The majority of these survivors are in their sixties and females.I pray you continue to expose the lying leaders of churches. BUT we need to start PUSHING pastors to TALK ABOUT IT LIKE PAUL, PETER AND JOHN did in their letters. Finally, I would like to challenge a topic not discussed in your investigations. Many of these leaders are Reformed/Calvinistic and even a shallow review of their doctrines reveals that these doctrines are man-centered and require the submission of women to husbands, pastors, elders! This is something that should be seriously investigated, i.e. MacArthur, Driscoll, and many more.
Thank you for your transparency and fight 👆🏻🤗
Julie, thank you for sharing so honestly. I can relate to your experiences. My husband was a psychologist who counseled several women abused by a well known "christian leader". After the victims filed a court case with my husband listed as a witness all hell broke loose. We had so much attack. We had phone calls in the middle of the night, websites put up against us, lies told. Twitter feeds started about us, even though we were not on Twitter. A letter denouncing my husband was signed by 70 so called "leaders" who never talked to us. They just signed the letter for notoriety. My passed away suddenly in 2018. I believed the stress of the attack he was under contributed to his sudden death. Even now, 6 years after his death if I say anything at all I am attacked. I simply do not understand why the church chooses to support the abusers. Is it hero worship? Do we idolize humans that much? I don't know.
There must be reformation in the church before there is any revival in the culture. If we say we have no sin we decieve ourselves and the truth is not in us...if we confess our sins..He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness...1 John 1:8-10. There was sin in the camp in the Old Testament, so the Israelites lost at Ai....
There are unbelievers who have read Scripture and know theology etc but they don't have the Spirit that comes through belief in Jesus and repentance of sins. If someone memorized all 66 books and can quote them in their sleep but they are not repentant, do not believe it, and are not *living it* then it counts for nothing. Christianity is not just wisdom, it is a hatred of sin and an obedience to God because they *love Him* and seek to please Him. Those who still live wicked do not hate sin, in fact they are slaves to their sin, do not love God, and Jesus does not know them. Jesus said, if you love Me you will obey My commandments.
AWESOME!!!!
~❤~ thank you.
You have to have a relationship with Jesus. Not books and degrees!
I don’t think MacArthur repenting would cause other pastors to repent. I also think there is probably more evil in that ministry than has been revealed. Evil protects evil.
Wow, I just found you yesterday! Thank you!!!
I think a great story would be the churches and pastors who are doing it right not just the ones who are doing it wrong. Paul did this in his letters.
@flowergirl-pp7vz
Ай бұрын
Maybe someone else could do that story? This woman’s call from God seems to be calling out corruption. I am completely in awe of her strength and humility. Just came across her on the internet today.
@flowergirl-pp7vz
Ай бұрын
But your point is well-taken that we need to be careful not to start thinking that the only thing in the Church is corruption. I heard a statistic that there is 3x as much sexual abuse in public schools as there is in the Catholic Church. And there is as much abuse in the Protestant church as there is in the Catholic Church, according to research. But the secular media and non-Christian world would like everyone to believe things are WORSE in churches than the secular world. Nevertheless, I think this woman is on the right track. WOW, it must take incredible stamina to do what she’s doing. I pray God continues to give her strength!!!
Thank you for this wonderful message I really enjoyed your outward discussion of your inward thoughts about the desire for someone to have forgiveness versus the want and need for Justice. I always just try to default to love and let that guide me. In the end we know it will be God wipes away all our tears. Blessings to you and your family.
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Even MacArthur! Really?! If he’s not trustworthy, who can we trust? Are there any well-known Christian figures who are noble and safe?
Some of the vile comments directed at Julie brought home to me what nonsense Calvinism is.
@leenieledejo6849
5 ай бұрын
Well, they take the name of a total despot (and a murderer!) and they use it proudly! What Calvin did in Geneva and wrote about and did to Michael Servetus in particular is horrifying and demonic.
Thank you for putting into words Why we stay n fight God’s continued grace be with you in this most difficult yet needed work.
@JulieRoysReport Have you heard the one about the talking donkey, mind you, it was a female. Numbers 22:22-38 Balaam, the Donkey, and the Angel 22 Then God’s anger was aroused because he went, and the Angel of the Lord took His stand in the way as an adversary against him. And he was riding on his donkey, and his two servants were with him. 23 Now the donkey saw the Angel of the Lord standing in the way with His drawn sword in His hand, and the donkey turned aside out of the way and went into the field. So Balaam struck the donkey to turn her back onto the road. 24 Then the Angel of the Lord stood in a narrow path between the vineyards, with a wall on this side and a wall on that side. 25 And when the donkey saw the Angel of the Lord, she pushed herself against the wall and crushed Balaam’s foot against the wall; so he struck her again. 26 Then the Angel of the Lord went further, and stood in a narrow place where there was no way to turn either to the right hand or to the left. 27 And when the donkey saw the Angel of the Lord, she lay down under Balaam; so Balaam’s anger was aroused, and he struck the donkey with his staff. 28 Then the Lord opened the mouth of the donkey, and she said to Balaam, “What have I done to you, that you have struck me these three times?” 29 And Balaam said to the donkey, “Because you have [a]abused me. I wish there were a sword in my hand, for now I would kill you!” 30 So the donkey said to Balaam, “Am I not your donkey on which you have ridden, ever since I became yours, to this day? Was I ever [b]disposed to do this to you?” And he said, “No.” 31 Then the Lord opened Balaam’s eyes, and he saw the Angel of the Lord standing in the way with His drawn sword in His hand; and he bowed his head and fell flat on his face. 32 And the Angel of the Lord said to him, “Why have you struck your donkey these three times? Behold, I have come out [c]to stand against you, because your way is perverse[d] before Me. 33 The donkey saw Me and turned aside from Me these three times. If she had not turned aside from Me, surely I would also have killed you by now, and let her live.” I love this true story, I hope it brought a smile to your face. God Bless, Maranatha
@flowergirl-pp7vz
Ай бұрын
Definitely made me chuckle. Scripture is inspiring AND entertaining. Thanks 🙏
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So encouraging ❤
Ted Haggard too!
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Corrupt Christians attacking Julie is just a case of self-snitching, they actually help Julie make here case.
@ranchoboomerang
8 ай бұрын
If you are corrupt, you are not a Christian.
Julie, The devil knows the Bible better than we do! Just because they are well studied and know scripture doesn't mean they have God's Holy Spirit. As you said, they were the most wicked people you have ever met. They are not God's people! The high priests were well studied and knew the scriptures. Satan disguises himself very well! When you meet these people, ask Jesus. Lord, show me if this man belongs to you? Am I dealing with one of your people, or am I dealing with one of Satan's people? Then you will have a ground base. Jesus will tell you. He will. Julie, you are doing a tremendous job! I will keep you in my prayers. You are an angel of the Lord.
@julie roys , is there going to be a Restore conference in the Pacific Northwest, near Seattle. I'm a Canadian guy who would love to drive across the border to attend. I love your work. I resonate.
wow...they are attacing you from every side, you is really piss these devils :) Right in head of the devil!!!! YESSSSSSSSSSSS :) He is pissed off
'Promo SM' ❗
@JulieRoysReport Julie, I heard your "debate" about women pastors. You know, that "feeling/desire" you have...it's not you; it's The Holy Spirit. Many don't even know that Mary was a Levite. See Elizabeth was of the daughters of Aaron (Luke 1:5) and Mary was her cousin. The Laws of inheritance is that a man has no son(s) then the inheritance is to pass to his daughter(s). God established that law because of the boldness of the daughters of Zelophehad; although, they were not Leites. However, the Levites inheritance is God. And, Levites also have daughters. Not the best example; nonetheless, 1 Samuel 2:22 New International Version 22 Now Eli, who was very old, heard about everything his sons were doing to all Israel and how they slept with the women who served at the entrance to the tent of meeting. But, Eli's sons were evil priests. Also, Isaiah 9:6 6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Notice: "Counselor" 2 Samuel 20:16-22 King James Version 16 Then cried a wise woman out of the city, Hear, hear; say, I pray you, unto Joab, Come near hither, that I may speak with thee. 17 And when he was come near unto her, the woman said, Art thou Joab? And he answered, I am he. Then she said unto him, Hear the words of thine handmaid. And he answered, I do hear. 18 Then she spake, saying, They were wont to speak in old time, saying, They shall surely ask counsel at Abel: and so they ended the matter. 19 I am one of them that are peaceable and faithful in Israel: thou seekest to destroy a city and a mother in Israel: why wilt thou swallow up the inheritance of the Lord? 20 And Joab answered and said, Far be it, far be it from me, that I should swallow up or destroy. 21 The matter is not so: but a man of mount Ephraim, Sheba the son of Bichri by name, hath lifted up his hand against the king, even against David: deliver him only, and I will depart from the city. And the woman said unto Joab, Behold, his head shall be thrown to thee over the wall. 22 Then the woman went unto all the people in her wisdom. And they cut off the head of Sheba the son of Bichri, and cast it out to Joab. And he blew a trumpet, and they retired from the city, every man to his tent. And Joab returned to Jerusalem unto the king. Matthew 7:7-12 Ask, Seek, Knock 7 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. 9 “Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. God Bless, Maranatha
Never believed for a second the nonsense they said. They make me sick...
No church will ever be perfect so Julie will never have anything good to say about anyone.
@daughterofworth
8 ай бұрын
Abusive is different than imperfect. God does not co-sign abuse, not in His church and not outside of it. Anyone who has encountered even the tiniest portion of the heart of God, understands the call to expose evil, especially when it's perpetrated and perpetuated in the very name of God, who hates evil.
@weswalker5string
8 ай бұрын
Sounds like a church leader you trusted has been exposed, and it is messing with your head. It's called cognitive dissonance. You can't believe what you are hearing, so you dismiss the messenger. I understand that. I have been there. It is gut wrenching to find out some people you deeply respect actually have this horrific depravity in their hearts, behind a facade of righteousness. You have been betrayed, and it is not your fault. If you are hearing sexual abuse allegations against someone, there is a 98% chance that it is true. I am not just using hyperbole, that is fact.
@dorothywillms115
8 ай бұрын
@@weswalker5stringwwhewwwww where do you get your 98% fact from.??
@Window4503
7 ай бұрын
This is the equivalent of saying "everyone's a sinner so we should just give in to our desires."
@lindaolsen7089
6 ай бұрын
Um, no. You don't seem to know her content (work).
Hope she is not a wolf in sheep's clothing. Strikes me as a leftist but polished NPR reporter masquerading as a Christian. I have listened to many hours of her podcast and my opinion went from glowing to disenchantment. Should leaders be exposed for acting against Scripture - I'm for it. But someone pretending to do it from within - when clearly there is a political bias and agenda that opposes Biblical doctrine... idk. I would love to think she is sincere.
@heathergessling1106
8 ай бұрын
I have watched hours and I have seen nothing but integrity.
@joshuapjung
8 ай бұрын
“Lord there are some people over there doing things in your name but they arent like us!”
@Henriette-van-der-Ende
8 ай бұрын
What is the political bias and against Scripture in your view?
@ezbody
8 ай бұрын
Masquerading as Christian would perfectly describe like 80% of Evangelicals, but definitely not her.
@felixa8607
8 ай бұрын
@@ezbody…thought provoking… guess it depends what you mean by evangelicals and that’s where we get into pride and prejudice. The more I hear her the more I’m convinced she sees ordinary believers as “deplorables” and her kind as the “lovelies” - there are very large issues at stake - the survival of our religious liberty being one - the decades long attack on fathers and masculinity to weaken society another. I sense that she’ll throw her lot behind our oppressors and mockers - I’ve hear her voice all my life from the mainstream - are there jerks on the pulpit. I suppose there always have been. But am I in favor of spiritual abuse - no. I do have a sense of vindication at the thought of victims having not just a voice but a magnified finger to point. But someone providing that is not necessarily a friend of the church is what I’m trying to say. If I’m wrong about her I will gladly admit it. I will provide some examples of what I mean - however they will not convince anyone who does not already understand that we are in a war.
I think you put yourself into all this chaos because it’s not your Biblical duty to “expose” everyone in ministry accused of wrong doing. Why do you insert yourself into every church’s business? They have a mandate to follow a Scriptural path and it doesn’t include you.
@laurielutgen4799
8 ай бұрын
Because they’re NOT following a scriptural path. All they do is shame victims; try to cover up their sins; and show no fruit of true repentance. And if you think about it, we are all a part of the global Church, so she is right for calling this out.
@davidjohnzenocollins
8 ай бұрын
@janetchavis Are you trying to add to Julie's mug collection? I 🙂 33:10
@marianschroder6574
7 ай бұрын
Someone has to do it @janetchavis. The Old Testament prophets weren't welcomed by corrupt kings. I'm sure people found their doom and gloom very irritating. Better to listen to what this woman has to say and take heed. And it benefits those people who were victims of abuse. It really helps in their healing journey when their experience is validated.
@flowergirl-pp7vz
Ай бұрын
@@marianschroder6574Amen! 🙏