lol co-washes and sulfate-free shampoos don't clean anything, especially if you're using heavy creams and butters in your hair like most of us do.

@nappyvalley2676

3 жыл бұрын

I wish people talked about it more!

@nappyvalley2676

3 жыл бұрын

@iyayi1551 iyayi1551 That is true. Usually, I check the back to see how strong the product is. If the "moisturizing" shampoo has and oil or aloe vera as the second ingredient I usually won't buy it.

@adwoamk8918

3 жыл бұрын

Yep if you look at the ingredients, the first 4 will be oils and possibly one surfactants.

@ashleylovines2562

3 жыл бұрын

All of my friends are natural, and Im trasitioning. They been telling me to use sulfate free shampoos, and oils and nstural things and im like 😒 girls i have a sensetive scalp i cant be using those, i need to remove everything from that scalp

@tracyc.1005

3 жыл бұрын

Say it for the people in the back! And shampooing just once or even twice won't cut it when using all of that heavy crap. I learned this the hard way. I only use salon level shampoos and conditioners now and I stopped using most "natural" products.

Yeah, companies definitely love misleading information. For example, the "rice water" products...

@nappyvalley2676

3 жыл бұрын

That is definitely a point I wanted to make!!!

@roshandabarriffe2995

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly 💯

When I just big chopped I was so confused about some many stuff with natural hair like prepooing, cowashing, mask/masque etc. And then after a while I’m like really and truly these things aren’t necessary.

@DANNYTHEFROG123

3 жыл бұрын

I dont do any of that stuff. I wash my hair with shampoo and conditioner. Use a leave in and heat protector and defuser.

@KAMLOYALTY

3 жыл бұрын

@@DANNYTHEFROG123 yeah i don't think its a big deal really

Hi ! Chemist here with experience in fda regulations. I agree with the lady you referenced. it is on the consumer to do research. The company is there to sell you things and make money. Product Claims have to be worded in a certain way in order not to confirm or deny anything scientifically/medically. That’s why you see words like “appearance of” or “feel of.” Because they can legally set up an opinion panel of randoms off the street and ask them if they like the feel of their hair after using a product. They can then say “improves feel of hair 97%” and be completely in compliance. Edit: they can also add Trendy ingredients to their formula in such a small amount that it doesn’t change the base formula but can make a claim that it’s in there. They can slap a new label on it and that’s how they are able to stay up to date with trends. Edit #2: there are silicones that evaporate off the hair as well

@nappyvalley2676

3 жыл бұрын

oh, that is so cool. I recently applied to an FDA fellowship that had to do with cosmetic evaluation but I don't think I got it 😔 . But I totally hear you if customers didn't do their research then they could be easily scammed. It is just that some of the claims should not be allowed to be put on the packaging. It is just outrageously misleading.

@bleeka325

3 жыл бұрын

@@nappyvalley2676 I agree it’s misleading but it’s technically legal. But why companies would wanna scam their consumer base is a mystery to me. And you never know what God’s got in store for you. I hope you get to participate in some kind of fellowship or internship soon !

@uberhaute_naturalz84

2 жыл бұрын

I follow Chemists Corner and The Beauty Brain both operated by Perry and Valerie and I tell you, these people have opened my eye to the scientific side of cosmetics chemistry.

@bleeka325

2 жыл бұрын

@@uberhaute_naturalz84 i really enjoy Beaty brains. Been a fan since sarah was the host

@uberhaute_naturalz84

2 жыл бұрын

@@bleeka325 they have changed my perception as regards cosmetic science. They've also saved me tons of money!

I was at a town in natural for 14 years of my life and relaxed for 3 years And all of my 14 years I’ve never used a cowash nor preepoo nor used a mask and didn’t use oil in my hair and it grew. The natural hair community influences all of these and then the hair companies just grab onto it because it a “trend”

Cowash is a stupid concept. Why would you wash your hair with conditioner? And how is your hair gonna get that extra moisture from conditioner when it's caked in gel?? Please. If you don't wash your hair for a long amount of time it will dry up. It doesn't matter how much conditioner or moisturiser you put in. I feel like a lot of these natural youtubers do all this extraness bc they enjoy it not bc they have to.

This is so funny, my whole journey, I've never been into using gels, oils, leave ins or anything. And my hair has been FINE. I think it's the act of routinely caring for and cleansing your hair that gives you progress, not the actual product itself. I always felt like I was doing something wrong by not being so obsessed with baby hairs and slicking things down and using every product in the world. VENDICATION! :

@mialong2363

2 жыл бұрын

Its also funny how i’ve been using these products for years and my hair is long. But then again i’m high porosity so i dont get much product buildup. But i also wash my hair with a sulfate shampoo lol so idk maybe people just need to wash their hair ??

Maybe it’s a catch 22. Technically the market is based off of demand. We demanded products with thick butters and oils, etc. I’ve seen brands, literally say what do you want to see next from us. And ppl will say Cowash, growth oil or claywash. Very rarely ppl will say shampoo. Responsibility rests on the consumer to be aware and do some due diligence. People are not thinking and reasoning why they need this or that. It’s blind consumerism. The NH community decided to be more health conscious because of the harmful chemicals in relaxer. They took it a step further to protest traditional products that were full of crap bad for you and environment ingredients brands shifted to cruelty free, paraban free, natural fragrances etc. we hold power, the market is just a reflection of what we are demanding.

@nappyvalley2676

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I definitely agree with what you are saying. We do influence the market. My thing is, is it to much for companies to be like no this isn’t a good idea because xyz can happen, but here is an alternative option that addresses your needs/concerns

@olivian.matthew2155

3 жыл бұрын

@@nappyvalley2676 i hear you. Accountability should be had on all fronts. Companies could give disclaimers or “not recommended”, I know some companies have instructions on ways to “best” use the products. It’s a suggestion though and some people don’t even follow the directions. At the end of the day it really is up to the consumer. A Cowash can have a place in a regimen. If I work out and sweat out my style a lot I may want to use a cleansing conditioner mid week but not exclusively. A shampoo multiple times a week might do a disservice. Product companies can’t really tell us what exactly to do because people lifestyle varies and they aren’t in the business of prescribing regimens, they just push products lol. TFS btw!

@sart1348

3 жыл бұрын

@@nappyvalley2676 I came to say exactly this. Brands are watching Google analytics, Instagram hashtags and yt and creating products that consumers say they want...and that is coming from what small and medium sized influences have said worked for them. Also, the power of the black consumer is growing and if they DON'T cater they sometimes get called out. MIND YOU! Salon-centric brands DO NOT follow these trends much and they work the best because they are working off of hair science (i.e. universal) principles. A salon quality brand will always have a shampoo with surfactants (whether sulfate or not) and never have a cowash or clay mask in its place! They know some silicones are easier to remove from the hair etc. Meanwhile...masstige consumer products (from black hair focused brands especially and "mainstream" [I.e. everyone else] focused brands also) do a new line with buzz words every second (looking at you, SM👀) because the goal is for you to KEEP TRYING NEW and for them to KEEP SELLING NEW. Or saying "FREE FROM ..." because we've been convinced that so many things are bad, when they're not. I get it because $$$. I just wish when correct information comes to us (which is a lot easier to verify because of how much more connected we are online to resources) we accept and adjust instead of being defensive. Faster we do that, faster brands will catch wind and provide more effective products

This was such a well balanced piece on all this current topic. Let's stop the group thinking and use our own initiative and if your lost with how to look after your hair, reach out to a textured specialist.

@nappyvalley2676

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the compliment! That was exactly what I was going for.

I agree with all your points. Especially the part about people speaking in absolutes.

@nappyvalley2676

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it is definitely annoying!

I love being natural and have been natural since 2012 (start of senior year of high school) but I will say I’m watching how natural hair KZread has evolved and changed... I’m always side eyeing these “trends” and “dos and donts ” that randomly keep coming out. My biggest point when people tell me not to use oils, butters, sulfates, clarifying shampoos or whatever is what we’re you doing before these videos started coming out and was your hair growing and thriving.... and if so why change and where did this information come from that you are following? Are they even a professional? Where is your evidence this new method works? For me I am re-developing a routine that works for my hair and honestly I don’t do what most do as a low porosity, medium to high density natural; however, my hair is growing, my ends don’t knot as much as when I was doing the most and my shedding is so minimal. 🤷🏽‍♀️ Best advice is everyone do you!

@nappyvalley2676

3 жыл бұрын

I think it is a good idea to always reevaluate your current routine. You don't have to take on every aspect of a new method or new routine but there is no harm in trying it out.

@desimaray

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Everyone should do what works for their own hair.

You have such a solid point: how much of the hype train just disconnected people from feeling what their hair/scalp likes

I use conditioner to detangle as prepoo sometimes because it has slip. I use prepoo (olive oil) to help detangle and minimize breakage because it has slip. I avoid combing and brushing tools and use them only once a week during washing to avoid breakage. All these practices support hair retention. It is important to know what the goal is. I focused on hair retention first. Now its hair health overall. Most of the influencers aren't experts and share what works for them and say so. But thanks for the topic, since questioning any advice and using what you can and leaving the rest applies to every are of life. Ultimately you have to find what works for you through trial and error and learning what your hair responds best too. Ive been learning for 3 years. I Have bra strap hair but still haven't learned how to avoid some damaged areas so I am still open to learning. Love my hair and this journey overall.

I keep it old school prepoo with ors hair mayo or tgin honey mask depending on if my hair needs the protein or moisture, wash, then regular conditioner to comb out, then to style A leave in and blue magic hair grease. Don’t get me wrong I do have a crap load of those other brands but I’ve simplified my routine and my hair thanks me for it. If grease was bad then blue magic, softee etc. Would be out of business after all this time.

I'd love a video on how to create a good routine! I agree with what you said, I feel like all and all, do what's best for your hair and stick to it. I think thats why many ppl dont see length too bc they're doin too much. Too many growth oils out here being like "miracle in a bottle" when really all your hair needs is tlc and the right prods🙃

@nappyvalley2676

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback 💕. And you are definitely right!

Sis, you are 100 percent right with the CG method 👏 I am going back to Sulfate, grease, etc. My hair thrived on it! I have to use up all my other products before I do,though.

Hello and Thank you I'm a newbie just because this popped up 🤗. I'm 32 back in the days we didn't use leave in, but we used Pink Lotion moisturizer that was the leave in and heat protection 😊. Yes people need to pay attention to their hair I started following 100+ people watching and seeing what they do and copied them 🤷🏿‍♀️ I used 1 products line for 1 or 2 months before picking what my hair liked the ingredients that worked well for my hair. I do LCO and LCG g for gel depending on the style, location and weather 😎. Love leave in, creams, Oil and gel ❤ Yes would love more video about products and products and things to do when you have Braids Great job Thanks again 🤗🎯

@jenlewis4382

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I just turned 40, Pink Oil Lotion was my go to and bb brand, it was a grease. I'd braid my hair with either one and the shine!

Thank you! Honesty the issue just boils down to washing your hair. If you have buildup wash. If your hair is dry, use whatever you already know works. Sulfates cleans heavy product and prevent build-up. And then replenish with silicone and oils and butters. Science works. Natural hair gurus just follow trends.

Basically it boils down to this: listen to your hair. Sometimes you may have to exchange your shampoo or cowash. Sometimes you may need to switch out your oils. You have to do what works for you. People love to make rules that will make them money. All the youtubers I follow always have a message of "I'm not trying to sell you anything I'm just telling what I use and making content that brings me revenue, take my advice with a grain of salt." Which is how it should be.

It seems like the very products that we are told to stay away from is the very products that actually work good for our hair. Before they came out with all these new age hair products we used grease. I spent money on a lot of products that's supposed to be all natural and good for your hair but did nothing but dry out and cost breaking. Don't get me wrong some natural hair products are good and I do use them . But I have also added some old school products to my hair regiment. I use the World Of Curls activator gel along with thier Comb Out spray and my hair is so soft and moisturized and the products give me great slip I can comb through my hair so easily and my hair is thriving. I use to use World Of Curls back when I was rocking a Jerry Curl back in the day. People been using grease or curl activator and nobody was getting sick from using these products.

@nappyvalley2676

3 жыл бұрын

You definitely bring up a good point! I would love to research how effective old age and new age products were on black hair.

@Michelle-dm3nl

3 жыл бұрын

True we were using blue magic but we were also using harsh shampoos to get it all out so I think that's why it never caused issues. I don't remember being so afraid of shampoo back in the day, it was part of the routine of weekly or biweekly washing. Shea butter has the same goal of blue magic yet now we are saying to cowash or only use a low poo shampoo with it.

@chocolateme7731

3 жыл бұрын

@@Michelle-dm3nl I've used some of the so called sulfate-free shampoos and they dried my hair out. But when I use Suave infusion With coconut oil or Moroccan Argan Oil. It maked my hair feel so soft and moisturized even before I apply the Suave conditioner. Shea butter is alright but nothing seals in moisturize like some good old fashion hair grease at least in my opinion. If you ask me the natual hair community is a big joke and full of shit coming out with all these ridiculously stupid rules. There was a time when I used to listen to those so called natural hair gurus saying don't use grease or anything with petroleum. And my hair suffered it was always dry and I ended up with bald spots and a lot of shedding. But the minute I used leave in and a moisturizing cream and sealed with grease. My hair instantly stop breaking and my hair grew back in the bald spots.

@Michelle-dm3nl

3 жыл бұрын

​@@chocolateme7731

@chocolateme7731

3 жыл бұрын

@@Michelle-dm3nlI didn't get the full comment you just sent because KZread just edit your comment. Can you re send it ?

1: Great video 👍🏾 This new now everything is bad for you trend is weird as hell. I side eyed the professionals that were absent when women came on here the OGs teaching us not complicated stuff like now. Seems like the only thing that change was companies either started to acknowledge our hair existed outside of relaxers and companies that been existed for natural hair finally got noticed since we was now looking. Yeah it got complicated because trends and people use trends as law as you said. Regardless of what we use we don’t have to hop on every single trend, yea it’s nice to learn a new method if you are redoing your routine like you should but also remember to. stick to things that work for you! I’m not listening to some more random people who came out the wood works to talk shit or denounce things they didn’t help teach anyone and stayed in their own space. If they was around when natural or non silk press wig wearers was looking like me i’d have respect but no so these women doing this detox man…..all it meant was you wasn’t doing what worked for you in the first place…but it also goes back again to making it a trend all over again.

I agree with you. Shampooing is key to healthy scalp and hair.

Just found your channel. Girl your preaching pure facts

I appreciate it that you are able to voice your opinion. I am wary about products because I am allergic to so many ingrediets, even shea butter. Also, most girls spend way too much time on their hair. I do not have time to spend all day on my hair. I use a shampoo my determatolist recommended, a conditioner, and a masque suggested by my dermatologist to help with the drying of the shampoo. I do not use really expensive products either. I have learned though from the KZread girls to take better care of my ends and be very gentle on my hair. Because of these two things my hair is below bra strap length within the several months I have been doing this. It is sad so many Black women are going back to perms because I feel so much better since I stopped using that chemical. Keep it up Nappy Valley and maybe people will start listening on a major level.

I'm so glad that a lot of natural hair women are coming out and exposing the natural hair community because a lot of the things they say are very deceitful that is why I never believed in following the natural hair community nor any of their trends they came out with every week by the way I am a new subscriber to your channel 👍👍👍

Consumers don't like to read or listen. No matter how much information you give they go contrary.

“...BUT...life happened...” story of my life 🤦🏾‍♀️🤣😂🤣😂

If it was up to just me those products would rotten on those shelves. The prices are ridiculous. It’s not that I can’t afford them but i know it’s a rip off. Make the prices makes sense🙄 I make most of my own hair products and my hair is growing. You don’t need those products sis. I’ve been natural for a year and a half and I’m 4” away from nipple length. I did try some when I first went natural and trust me THEY DON’T WORK. It’s not because of your porosity, hair type etc why they aren’t working for you either it’s because they JUST DON’T WORK! I’m thinking of starting my own channel to help other queens with their hair But I haven’t made up my mind about it yet. These KZreadrs makes me sick with their gimmicks

@cfoster6804

Жыл бұрын

You need to make a channel. We need more real ones out here.

@OnlyOne_Her

Жыл бұрын

@@cfoster6804 still no channel 🙈🤣

If we could all grip the wash and go and admire our textures for what they are the world would be a better place. People forgetting that the hair movement is very young. Like I remember when I went natural in 2010 there was barely any hair products that would cater my 4c hair and resorted to the kitchen to make masks, butters, pre-poos you guys will never experience that going natural now. Everything we need is on the shelf now. Maybe if you’re going through some type of hair issue ie breakage heat damage a little oil would be an aid to use on scalp and ends not to drenched your whole head. We definitely don’t need a hair stripping agent that you could use to clean your dishes with. There’s different types of sulfate that can cause damage to your hair hence you see sulfate free shampoo having the less harsh ingredients but still lathers. Education is essential I suggest reading The Science of Black Hair.

Well said.......

in the last version of her book Lorraine Massey said the problem is afro hair is not high porosity... you need shampoo like the wavy girl n her method

@cfoster6804

Жыл бұрын

Wow, nobody talks about this part.

Just when I was gonna type what’s the curly girl method. You list the Curly girl method. I never followed that method 🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣

I don't know about curly girl method but base on what you are saying there is no way you can use just a conditioner to wash your hair it just doesn't work. I just use a regular shampoo and conditioner and it's working fine for me .

I agree with all of this!

I cowashed for about 3 weeks and stopped. My hair was smelly and sticky/itchy. It was NOT FOR ME.

Not a lie was told! While I was never a co-wash girl (that shit always sounded dumb to me) I did always shampoo my hair weekly (my scalp gets itchy and fussy if I don’t) I listened to my favorite KZreadrs and used and gentle sulfate free shampoo. Now mind you, I was also “sealing” in moisture by using an oil on top of my leave in. It should come as no surprise to people with a basic understanding of hair that all that damn product build up prevented water from hydrating my hair and led to brittle dry hair prone to breakage. Because I had experienced soft hydrated hair when I first big chopped (before using a weak ass shampoo and LCO method) and never excepted when these natural hair girls would constantly say ‘natural hair is dry!’ I would big chop damn near every year because my hair would become so lifeless and dry and I knew that was not normal for me. I would blame color, too much protein, not enough protein, lack of elastin in my hair to explain my problem. This went on for years! Of course I feel dumb now that I know it was build up, I’m grieving the fact that my hair is not to my ankles by now, I have been natural since 2011 🤧. But you live and you learn, I added a clarifying shampoo to my regimen and ditched the raw oil and my hair is finally back to its normal state.

@JesusisHazelsSavior

2 жыл бұрын

I totally feel you love...but you don't have to ditch your raw oil because it's beneficial oil....all you gotta do it use a good cleansing shampoo to wash away the build up...sick of the natural hair Guru's girl telling us to only use water...like what the heck am I supposed to use then, wind? this is just ridiculous...all because they wanna make so much money off us

@cfoster6804

Жыл бұрын

@@JesusisHazelsSavior A lot of products already have lots of oils in them so there's really no need to be dumping raw oils on top of that.

@JesusisHazelsSavior

Жыл бұрын

@@cfoster6804 I use raw oils and water it makes my hair and my family hair feel soft and the hair stay moisturized for longer periods of time

Could someone pls recommend some good shampoo and conditioners for this method I am literally lost😩

@cutelilthing2

3 жыл бұрын

Innersense line. AG balance & boost. Look for salon quality shampoos & conditioners. Usually not sold in drugstores, but rather online. You can start off with these two mentioned above, try it out and go from there. Hope this helps :)

@bumblebee4024

3 жыл бұрын

Pantene has great products for textured hair designed by PhD’s who are African American chemists. Look it up here on YT.

@blackgothgoddess3164

3 жыл бұрын

Almost anything from Giovanni cosmetics. Love that brand

@cfoster6804

Жыл бұрын

Oh and it's cheap. $11.

Who is all? I heard of the method you mention and passed. It did not make sense to me, so no thanks. On Deva Curl they have shampoo. I have used their products and been to a couple stylist that specialize in their cut/products. I have never heard not to wash you hair, that sounds crazy. Now, the co-wash thing is more for people who need to "wash" their hair mid week. Not that they do not use shampoo. As a matter of fact the stylist that I heard from and went stressed the importance on starting a wash and go or whatever on clean hair. So I think you are contributing this method to that company and that is not how their products are intended to be us.

The BlackGirlCurls/BlackCurlMagic has the exact same issues as the Curly Girl Method. Althought the Curly Girl Method was started by a white woman mainly for curly hair types (but she did also market it to anyone who didn't have straight hair so wavy and coily types). I don't think most naturals (black people with type 4 hair) followed that as religiously. Like at first, years ago, they did but then I think a lot divested from it. Now there's this new method that is just as toxic and annoying. They make rules based on what they believe to be true via anecdotal evidence. CGM was created by a singular stylist based on anecdotal evidence and a few picking and choosing of science. This new method is exactly the same. They used anecdotal evidence and picking and choosing science and also misunderstanding science. Also at 5:18 you said you don't think leave-ins were a thing until high school (idk what time that is but I'm most likely older than you). I will assume that you just never ventured into that territory of the haircare aisle. Leave-ins were a thing in "non-ethnic" (as they liked to call us for some reason) haircare since long before the natural hair movement (and therefore before the curly hair movement). The curly girl method is a sulfate free method. There are tons of non-sulfate anionic surfactants that cleanse the hair quite well and can most certainly get rid of silicones and other similar ingredients. However, if the shampoo, regardless if it has sulfates or not, is loaded with a lot of ingredients that don't wash off, it won't clarify. I think a lot of people became afraid in general to use any type of cleanser because of their fear of dryness so co-washing became incredibly popular despite sulfate free shampoos on the market. Sarah Ingle made a great video about marketing. The video is called "Is Your Shampoo a Scam? | SCIENCE vs MARKETING." You might find it interesting since you were talking about marketing in this video. I do agree that a lot of people generally do what is popular and follow what other people say you should do blindly. Hence why everyone is now saying, no oils, no, butters, no leave ins, no deep conditioning (which is basically just conditioning but I digress), etc. - very black and white thinking. Everyone is shouting the same thing and not taking anything else into consideration and also not realizing that just because something is more "efficient" doesn't mean the alternative is bad. I've never followed any method for my hair, but I did learn by watching and researching and expirmenting since I wasn't taught by my parents. My mom was literally so upset I went natural. I've never had a phase of not using shampoo, but I did "co-wash." I didn't use the conditioner on my scalp and I only "co-washed" mid week because I did cardio 6 days a week and I felt like I should at least rinse my scalp during the week. I think for the most part we're on the same page, my only argument here is just that this new phase is literally CGM 2.0 except only for kinky/coily types. I think a lot of curly non-afro-textured hair girlies still do CGM but then there are people like Manes by Mell (another youtuber) who does not agree with CGM and teaches how to care for and style curly hair. She's also very science based! Which I love. Sarah Ingle is too, but she got very ill and hasn't been producing content in over a year.

Come and check out the GinaCurl!!

You are a very beautiful lady!

Looooooooord it’s hair! Do what works for YOu and keep it pushin!!!!

Oils/creams are only good for your ends and that's it. NEVER for the scalp

@jasoniag

3 жыл бұрын

I think these absolutes is what this video is about. Several academic papers publishing evidence that particular oils stimulate hair growth.

@love-gn5zt

2 жыл бұрын

Then what do you use for dry scalp, cause my scalp tends to get dry so I usually put black castor oil or blue magic grease on.

@uberhaute_naturalz84

2 жыл бұрын

@@love-gn5zt 🙆🏿‍♀️🙆🏿‍♀️🙆🏿‍♀️ you're suffocating your scalp! You can use the castor oil as a hot oil treatment then wash it out with a cleansing shampoo that's not stripping then you can follow up with clarifying shampoo later. This will ensure that the castor oil properly gets washed out completely but has done its job. I prefer coconut oil though.

@cfoster6804

Жыл бұрын

@@uberhaute_naturalz84 You proving the point of the video.🤦🏾‍♀️🙄

@uberhaute_naturalz84

Жыл бұрын

,@@cfoster6804 I don't understand

exactly.

You have to do your research and use common sense. You still have to wash that scalp and use moisturizer appropriately. My hair will show me then tell me!

I honestly don't blame the company, I blame us the 4C community for still being subconsciously enslaved! Like...those loosed curly people don't know shit about our hair. If you don't have backlength 4C hair, keep the gutter in your face SHUT! I don't need any advice from such people about my 4C hai🙄🙄🙄

Stop spreading the misinformation you are complaining about they never said to wash your hair with only conditioner

@karmicobsession1636

3 жыл бұрын

people absolutely said that, im happy I never did that.

@imlovelyshannon

3 жыл бұрын

That is literally exactly what they said lol

@christina7171

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it was the whole co-washing movement

@roscoebatt

2 жыл бұрын

That is word for word what has been said

@cfoster6804

Жыл бұрын

Girl, you don't know what you're talking about.