WHY MONO COLOR DECKS WIN cEDH TOURNAMENTS

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  • @jasoncook2715
    @jasoncook2715 Жыл бұрын

    Magda definitely shook my LGS cEDH scene so hard, it was funny. Clown car got the exact reactions I anticipated.

  • @Qazplm601MC

    @Qazplm601MC

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, could you remind me why clown car is good in that deck? I remember hearing about some kind of synergy with it but I can’t remember/find what it was. It’s a very cute card and I want to find a place to run it if I can :P

  • @jasoncook2715

    @jasoncook2715

    Жыл бұрын

    @Qazplm601MC so clown car casting cost is X. So typically you never use any mana for it. X = 0. All you want is that crew ability to tap the dwarves to generate treasures. It's the cheapest way of getting the tap ability

  • @ecos889

    @ecos889

    4 ай бұрын

    Clown car could also technically double as a win con in emergency if you have infinite mana it's very niche case but it happens 😅

  • @Garwinium

    @Garwinium

    13 күн бұрын

    Clown car is one of my favorite cards lol, I run it in both my purphoros deck and my mr house deck

  • @Level_1_Frog
    @Level_1_Frog Жыл бұрын

    I think the prime example of this is Slicer, Hired Muscle. Some random voltron commander that people don't understand how to fight against, and it just steals games from people.

  • @JB-tp8we

    @JB-tp8we

    4 ай бұрын

    Love my slicer deck!

  • @MageSkeleton

    @MageSkeleton

    2 ай бұрын

    i still disagree with the rules for Slicer, because you are putting him under an opponents control and the equipment equipped onto him stay on him and are not "aura's" but equipment is treated like "aura's" and the only equipment that works likes that because of how it's worded is Bloodthristy Blade. And unless i'm mistaken, if the player has a way to sacrifice artifacts, they can sacrifice the artifacts equipped on Slicer.

  • @Level_1_Frog

    @Level_1_Frog

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MageSkeleton they cannot sacrifice equipment on Slicer. They control 'him', but can't activate abilities of, nor do they have control of, any equipment on him. Which is also how auras are treated as well.

  • @ethanm2592
    @ethanm2592 Жыл бұрын

    As a K’rrik, Black Hole Son of Yawmoth player, I’m very excited for this podcast.

  • @MageSkeleton

    @MageSkeleton

    2 ай бұрын

    Definitely a promising commander, i love what he does, but the numbers don't like. However, there are people playing him in ways that are so strange you'd think they were playing to lose and it messes with the statistics. i feel like he should be performing better than he seems to be but somehow every other mono color commander option is in the same % rate.

  • @metalbrother2671

    @metalbrother2671

    16 күн бұрын

    Do you mean, k‘rrik son of yawgmotj, industry plant of magic the gathering? I fully agree, what k‘rrik can do is pretty sick in some cases. There are some cases where you just win out right when drawing your first hand but you can also get pretty screwed more time Ethan I want to admit. Still a very satisfying playstyle

  • @jphorn1223
    @jphorn1223 Жыл бұрын

    This is usually referred to as the brewers' advantage

  • @MageSkeleton

    @MageSkeleton

    2 ай бұрын

    The Veracious Codex sure did a thing, sad it's a "gimmick deck."

  • @davidlerner1371
    @davidlerner1371 Жыл бұрын

    This is both correct and confusing to me. In other constructed formats, I feel like opponents sometimes give too much respect to the unknown. If you Thoughtseize your opponent in Legacy and see a Didgeridoo in their hand, it's getting discarded 90% of the time because you don't want to lose to some random combo. If you don't know how a deck wins, wouldn't that make it even more of a threat? For all you know, they can win out of nowhere at instant speed.

  • @C00kiesAplenty

    @C00kiesAplenty

    Жыл бұрын

    It's a 4 player format, and all the strongest decks can win out of nowhere at nearly any time. Turbo naus, thoracle etc. You don't have the cards in hand to police the entire board so you have to hedge against the threats you know can win on any of their turns after they get to three mana.

  • @benmughal

    @benmughal

    9 ай бұрын

    No. In multiplayer you’d take care of the drannith magistrate or use your Counter on Lions Eye Diamond.

  • @MageSkeleton

    @MageSkeleton

    2 ай бұрын

    Bad example, commander is meant to be a four player game, though can be five or three players in a "pod." Removal is normally "spot removal" and has to be used wisely. With that said, it's a strange phenomenon where players psychologically want to see what the thing does before formulating a plan. Think of it like playing Dark Souls and learning your opponent through losing to it multiple times before making a "winning attempt." So theoretically, someone could go into tournament with an "unknown commander" to the environment and just "get the win" as long as the opponents are confused to why your bringing that commander.

  • @brandonbonilla4844
    @brandonbonilla4844 Жыл бұрын

    15 winota decks, 15 thrasios/bruce decks but just the 1 Kinnan deck, that’s Tyler!😂

  • @romancookie881
    @romancookie881 Жыл бұрын

    My first round at my first cedh tournament that table got dunked on by a tromokratis turns deck. It was very unexpected

  • @carettcake8752
    @carettcake8752 Жыл бұрын

    I would love an episode on what cEDH tournaments look like and how they are run. Just proxied up my first deck and interested in joining some in a few months

  • @Niv-Mozart

    @Niv-Mozart

    6 ай бұрын

    This sounds cool

  • @Dark-Pikachu1

    @Dark-Pikachu1

    2 ай бұрын

    Hate tell you going get game lost for having proxy in your deck

  • @Dark-Pikachu1

    @Dark-Pikachu1

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Niv-Mozartto bad he gets DQ for having proxy and can’t play

  • @Niv-Mozart

    @Niv-Mozart

    2 ай бұрын

    @Dark-Pikachu1 why did you respond to me when you already responded to them? In case you didn't know, some CEDH tournaments are proxy friendly. Please don't respond thanks 😃 have a good day

  • @MageSkeleton

    @MageSkeleton

    2 ай бұрын

    With the shut down of more and more LGS's, doing an "in person" Cedh tournament becomes more difficult. While there are locations that are "proxy friendly" this could mean "only pretty proxies that look like the card it's meant to represent" or "as long as you have a real physical version of the card" which contradicts the whole "proxy friendly" thing, or "You can only proxy reserved list cards." At my LGS they simultaneously told me "we're proxy friendly" and while i didn't get DQ'd, i was punished for using proxies because they made sure to slow me down to ensure everyone knew what each proxy was representing while requiring me to play within a special "time limit" where they successfully ensured i ran out of time to present my "win." And i only needed 10 more seconds.

  • @MrFrankthefun
    @MrFrankthefun Жыл бұрын

    Controlling the flow of information is so important in CEDH

  • @drew-id
    @drew-id2 ай бұрын

    This is why ppl say I don't build casually. No one knows wth I'm up to until it's to late. The other day, the blue player just started countering everything I did because, and I quote "I don't know man..." 😂

  • @Bloody-Butterfly
    @Bloody-Butterfly Жыл бұрын

    Command tower? No, I just use Forest!

  • @MrTiddles69
    @MrTiddles69 Жыл бұрын

    It’s also coz they are faster less emphasis on fetching etc

  • @damienpeters6004
    @damienpeters600415 күн бұрын

    Vito is my go-to. Half of a two card combo, Chain of Smog, Aetherflux Reservoir, and every tutor I could cram in it. Does insane for the budget.

  • @just_unnamed
    @just_unnamed Жыл бұрын

    Teshar may be winning less because people know how he works but my boy is just as fun to play as he was back then

  • @shawnleclerc7266
    @shawnleclerc7266Ай бұрын

    The purpheros goblin aggro deck from the Japanese tournament that just happened that made the final 4 is the prime example. Even if you know what they are doing, if your deck, even the collective tables decks don't have enough of the tools to stop the strategy it can just cut through you like a hot knife through butter. You can have a full grip and 14 treasures but if all you have is a single piece of creature removal or a counterspell that MIGHT be able to stop 1 creature you die with all of your "massive advantage" kicked off. It's great

  • @Skurvy2k
    @Skurvy2k Жыл бұрын

    Damn, my man graduated from sadboy indie songwriter to Jurassic Park fan.

  • @manny8404
    @manny84046 ай бұрын

    Suggestion for future shorts. Could you add the video under this short? That way I and many others can click on it and watch your longer vids rather than trying to find it

  • @williamoldaker5348
    @williamoldaker53489 ай бұрын

    The full episode should be the description or a pinned comment.

  • @mtgspanglish731
    @mtgspanglish731 Жыл бұрын

    I took a page from a Dargo / Jeska I saw here to pump my Bruce tarl/ Jeska. One shooting people in turn 4 is awesome and making a ton of life even better.

  • @middknight5202
    @middknight5202 Жыл бұрын

    Too much sauce in this clip. as a mono color lover in this game i can totally agree. its fun suprising them!

  • @andrewtaylor5883
    @andrewtaylor58837 ай бұрын

    This is completely true! I play Yawgmoth and when I say I don't run ad nas or peer [I know it's a design mistake] they don't know what to name with shutdown OR they don't know what cards to grab while grasping my library.

  • @Rallad
    @Rallad Жыл бұрын

    Had a blast playing Arcum at some large tournaments! Of course just because players are not familiar doesn't mean they won't be very suspicious 😂😂

  • @SylveonSimp
    @SylveonSimp Жыл бұрын

    My casual edh opponents often ask me, how I am supposed to win. But I assume they don't mean that as a compliment :-/

  • @salamanteri_
    @salamanteri_ Жыл бұрын

    This is definetly the case with Ao. I still don't know why any of it's cards work.

  • @couchcommander5280
    @couchcommander5280Ай бұрын

    There's a similar concept in fighting games that i call the "low tier advantage". Everyone obsesses over the best characters, how to beat them, blah blah blah Meanwhile, greg over there is playing a super niche thing that turns out to be a rattlesnake but no one knew because it got dismissed early on. It's the little things, people

  • @TravvyBear262
    @TravvyBear262 Жыл бұрын

    ARCUM WILL RISE AGAIN 🤖

  • @roberthastings5969
    @roberthastings5969 Жыл бұрын

    Godo is a perfect example of this. Turn 1-2 you bring him out, next turn you just win the game if there's no haste inabler.

  • @kidblunted
    @kidblunted Жыл бұрын

    Your content is very inspiring ❤

  • @MageSkeleton
    @MageSkeleton2 ай бұрын

    i used to play Teshar ancestors apostle, and after a while i realized it's fatal flaw. While it's amazing and fun to go infinite with Sol Ring and being able to use Salvager of Ruin and Lotus Petal for infinite white mana EVERYTHING Teshar wants to do requires the graveyard. While white has access to some of the best removal spells in the game, they were getting in the way. As you know, "white" and "card draw" was not normal. And basically if you never saw Enlightened Tutor, Idyllic Tutor, Search the Armory and/or Steelcrafters Gift you were toast. And even then, as soon as your graveyard went away, you were normally set back at least one turn. Mono Black does not have this issue.

  • @evanbodek6063
    @evanbodek60636 ай бұрын

    I genuinely considered bringing my gandalf the white to my local tournament

  • @dr.pultandmrgrimm991
    @dr.pultandmrgrimm991 Жыл бұрын

    Kodama of the West Tree has been a build that has dropped a lot of power on the board and has taken over tables

  • @dr.pultandmrgrimm991

    @dr.pultandmrgrimm991

    Жыл бұрын

    Not to mention that people who love this game also don't have access to funds, like me being a full time college student, in order to want to compete at such a high level

  • @mikey420x1

    @mikey420x1

    6 ай бұрын

    good thing top cEDH is proxy friendly, you just print out a deck easy. funds dont matter @@dr.pultandmrgrimm991

  • @ghoulofmetal
    @ghoulofmetal Жыл бұрын

    Teshar also just goes Infinite on accident almost

  • @checkthenutz
    @checkthenutz Жыл бұрын

    I took third in a small cedh tournament with bruvac. Granted it doesn’t really fit in this example because everyone knows what you’ll be doing with bruvac. That is till you iso+dramatic reversal into brain freeze, or something silly like that.

  • @BAdCommander
    @BAdCommander8 ай бұрын

    Varragth is a prime examaple such a glass cannon but 2 top 16s. People just dont expect it. I mean us also have to be skilled with the rouge deck for sure.

  • @warrenr4048
    @warrenr404811 ай бұрын

    I’ve won multiple cEDH games with Mangara of Corondor because people underestimate monowhite. I call my deck perfect silence because my opponents generally have literally no permanents on the board

  • @Niv-Mozart
    @Niv-Mozart6 ай бұрын

    Teferi mono blue planeswalker took the same tournament back to back years. Dont remember which tourney, but still cool

  • @notimeleft1
    @notimeleft12 ай бұрын

    That’s why I want to make Daretti Scrap Savant CEDH viable. The value is so strong it’s crazy how good his recycle abilities are. Oh you made me wheel a high mana creature like phyrexian triniform? Cool I’ll minus daretti trading an artifact land for it.

  • @nedcurfman3486
    @nedcurfman348611 ай бұрын

    Joke’s on you, I play Elenda. I don’t HAVE a game plan, i just throw cards into the fire and see how big a boom I get

  • @modoverkill7066
    @modoverkill70668 ай бұрын

    My simic kinnan deck is undefeated at any locals I go to, I can win in the pre-game with a counter spell for protection, but usually I win turn 2-4

  • @abrahamzuniga3477
    @abrahamzuniga34779 ай бұрын

    I love playing Selvala heart of the wilds in cedh

  • @nerfinatorrr9981
    @nerfinatorrr9981 Жыл бұрын

    Godo bandit warlord is a helluva drug 😂

  • @MrShnibles
    @MrShnibles7 ай бұрын

    It's hard for my opponents to figure out my next move, because I haven't either.

  • @343omen
    @343omen Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I learned first hand from my buddy’s Azusa deck I’ve seen it kill the table on turn 4

  • @tijnhollanders6932
    @tijnhollanders693211 ай бұрын

    This might be why i won the last couple of games playing my glunch deck (casual commander, not cEDH). They just dont know how i win so they leave me alone while i give them goodies and eventually win with a +1/+1 counters strategy or voltron. And politics is still a thing in casual games

  • @bensteinhauser784
    @bensteinhauser784 Жыл бұрын

    Play the best cards vs brewers advantage?

  • @tcsmagicbox
    @tcsmagicbox4 ай бұрын

    I would have said it's because they have a more stable mana base.

  • @alicegranin6384
    @alicegranin63847 ай бұрын

    My budget (200$) CEDH Satoru deck has won and almost won a concerning amount of games just by playing cards people don't expect that I have BC of budget. Turns out flickering Alhemeret repeatedly to police hands is good.

  • @adrianmetz3013
    @adrianmetz3013 Жыл бұрын

    I've always kinda wanted to try out cedh but have no idea where to start, do you guys have any tips?

  • @NicolasandDad
    @NicolasandDad4 ай бұрын

    I just did shockingly well with a Sram Aura Voltron deck…

  • @coppercorky1378
    @coppercorky13782 ай бұрын

    What episode of the podcast is this from?

  • @HispanicatthediscoMTG
    @HispanicatthediscoMTG19 күн бұрын

    Nissa resurgent animist 😊

  • @arandomguy4142
    @arandomguy4142 Жыл бұрын

    What episode is this short?

  • @jordanhenriksen653

    @jordanhenriksen653

    Жыл бұрын

    Most likely the upcoming one

  • @noahmurtha4036
    @noahmurtha4036 Жыл бұрын

    I play soo much mono red these days lol 😂 I steal wins constantly

  • @ryanskolnick1274
    @ryanskolnick1274 Жыл бұрын

    Not sure if it’s good, but Orvar seems sick to build

  • @jasoncook2715

    @jasoncook2715

    Жыл бұрын

    I speak on behalf of orvar, and that deck has won me the most games out of all my cedh decks I've built. Been cedh since 2019 and orvar has the highest % win rate for me. Can be budget friendly too

  • @ethiancortes6213
    @ethiancortes621311 ай бұрын

    I still wandering how to Win with my teshar deck 😢

  • @jessesandburg
    @jessesandburg Жыл бұрын

    Mono is great against blood moon!

  • @vampirecmb
    @vampirecmb8 ай бұрын

    So should I play Kinnan or Selvala for my first tournament?

  • @void91g
    @void91g11 ай бұрын

    ❤😂🎉

  • @Kroxti
    @Kroxti4 ай бұрын

    Glances at my Ao deck

  • @untilthewheelsfalloff1751
    @untilthewheelsfalloff17516 ай бұрын

    An inbred meta that’s constantly shifting that’s why creature base decks have done so well I would know I’m winning with one

  • @MaxMckayful
    @MaxMckayful9 ай бұрын

    If you don't know what a card does in a format you know well, be very afraid.

  • @CageFreeLowFatSugarFreeRange
    @CageFreeLowFatSugarFreeRange2 ай бұрын

    Sounds like coping

  • @fernandob2275
    @fernandob227516 күн бұрын

    Gaslighting each other because y’all lost to monocolored decks lolz

  • @cgjoh
    @cgjoh2 ай бұрын

    They don't know what to do? Magic players net deck so hard that they can't beat people who are actually original? Dude that's so pathetic, if that happens sell your cards and stop "competing" you weren't to begin with.

  • @davidgzmn12345

    @davidgzmn12345

    Ай бұрын

    It’s more that mono color decks will run very específic combos that only appear in that commander, so you can’t really expect people to know every single obscure combo piece, as opposed to the common ones in other colors. You’ll have mono color combo pieces that go for 50 cents because they’re useless in every other deck, but generates infinite mana/storm/etb etc in that specific commander, so it’s easy to be caught by surprise

  • @johnnycaralta
    @johnnycaralta2 ай бұрын

    Simultaneously explained why cedh is garbage.

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