South Africa owes huge gratitude to Michael Louis for his incredible efforts

Most informative and a knowledgeable specialist. This should give all South Africans hope - something they all sorely need at this stage.

I love the prof but he is assuming everyone will play by the rules. Real democracy is accepting a loss, not a good track record in Africa.

@liveinwisdom3610

21 күн бұрын

Africa also has a good track record, of Western destabilization, so that it can exploit its resources. There is a reason why any functional, sovereign non-Western country, is usually always totalitarian in nature, because this is usually the only way, for it to remain sovereign from Western hands, e.g. Russia, China, Singapore, Iran, Bahrain, UAE, I can go on and on. Any functional rich country that is not totalitarian, is usually under the thumb of the west, E.g. Japan, South Korea, etc. So if you really cared about Africa, you would call out people with your DNA first.

@gerhardbotha7336

21 күн бұрын

Yes, that is the truth.

@jskok3280

21 күн бұрын

I agree with you. Ideology, hate, distrust, and so forth, will play a much bigger role in the aftermath of this election than academic reasoning, rules, and pure logic.

@anthony64632

21 күн бұрын

,​@@liveinwisdom3610Russia and China have autocratic government

@firstcomment749

21 күн бұрын

Western countries will also tell ppl, that their security is at present at an all time low, thanks to millions of 'immigrants' flooding their borders -young able bodied ppl who did not stand up for or defend their countries of birth. Look no further than the volatile situations in France + Britain.

This is an interview that should have happened prior to voting day.

@balsak007

21 күн бұрын

This is SA where we do things backwards

@KevinPheiffer

21 күн бұрын

Agreed! People would then not just know that their vote counted, but exactly how it counted.

@thembekaxipu6961

21 күн бұрын

Yeah true timing was going to assist

@GarethFrow

21 күн бұрын

Citizens should have to pass a basic test on understanding the electoral system in order to qualify to vote IMHO :)

@balsak007

21 күн бұрын

@@GarethFrow No, they should at least have a matric certificate

Regional ballot is pointless. How many independents made it to parliament? 0. And it reduces proportionality nationally.

@johnlouw6449

21 күн бұрын

The constitution makes it very difficult for independents to be bought out. No more walking across the floor for a better deal.Imagine an independent creating a majority by one or a bunch of them getting together for a better payday. A half a dozen seats for a couple of million for billions. The guys that put the constitution together were pretty sharp. At regional level it could make a majority but parliament would have oversight.This is one of the reasons Ole zoom zoom wants to change the constitution. Just saying .

Imagine having Jacob Zuma trying to explain the voting allocation.

@thabangaugustinehlalele

20 күн бұрын

So many Africans would listen to him

@adelevdberg9815

20 күн бұрын

Was thinking the same thing 😂😂

@mncedisilundi

15 күн бұрын

😂😂😂Domkop that one

CR must now put on his big boy pants.

For the first time in 30 years DA is happy in South Africa with the assistance of IFP, ANC 😮 Cry the beloved country 😭 😭 😭 😭

From this explanation alone, aggrieved parties are allowed an answer from the IEC because there was no voter education. The voting public didn't know what to do with the Regional vote.

Thank you to Dr Michael Louis and his team for the work you've done and continue to do.

The DA should remember that "If you lie down with dogs you will get up with fleas." These discussions seem to sweep aside the crooks and clowns in the ANC, EFF and MK. Time to pass the rulership and the resources of the Provinces to those who voted for them in that province.

@ericscaillet2232

20 күн бұрын

true ,but false if you treat your dogs to flea treatment on a regular basis.

And while we wait uBaba is plotting.....

The 350 seats argument just demonstrates how bad life is if you cant read with comprehension…

@biko8229

21 күн бұрын

That could easily be a diversion. In my view the real issue going forward is that these intellectuals think that it's a joke to dismiss 100s and 100s of people's votes. That cannot be correct, if they constitute it, their parliament will be viewed as illegitimate by millions of people. You must talk to people on the ground, many don't recognise the current results, justifiably so.

@johnlouw6449

21 күн бұрын

I think Zuma is still trying to count how many seats 😅

@Dubandlela1

20 күн бұрын

Wait until the court rules against your wish

@glenngwenya1084

17 күн бұрын

​@@johnlouw6449do you ask yourself how it got to be that way with him? I don't think this is the time to make such comments.🙄🙄

@johnlouw6449

17 күн бұрын

@@glenngwenya1084Watch the video. Someone in the mk can't count. Parliament will sit.His opinion and lack of evidence don't count. In fact he can't subtract. I'm not interested in his mental state and how he arrived somewhere.

An outstanding interview Chris. You excelled! Michael Louis is a very special person. So lovely to see him trying so hard to bring about a fair result for independents. He had so many good points. I learnt so much. Michael is a good ambassador for SA. In his earlier days he was a champion for the ACDP, the leader of the Western Cape Province. He resigned when the party could not apply strict discipline to those that broke the party line. It was so sad. A man of the utmost integrity. I long to see him make a come back to politics. He is a true statesman. We need more leaders like him for SA!

"CR has made a credibility comeback" pity he didnt see the need for this, earlier....

@kateturner1849

16 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂 "credibility" and "Ramaphosa" are not synonyms by any stretch of the imagination. He's a coward.

Why don't they ask Mr Panyasa Lesufi he seems to have a solution for difficult situations like this.

@Phillip-oo2ft

21 күн бұрын

Stil hiding...

When you don't have 57 individuals to put forward for MP's, I would also deflect by boycott process

Try explaining that to Jacob.

The problem is the lack of policing and defence force and reliability to enforce everything he has said if the ZUMA/MK dictatorship faction cause civil unrest and violence.

@bonganinsele7703

21 күн бұрын

BS they have 58 members of parliament what is wrong with you 2

@aarongunnz9513

21 күн бұрын

We don't have police and military. Zuma could go on and establish rebel military, he'll beat SANDF easily and after that he'll implement dictatorship like Mobutu and or Mugabe

@biko8229

21 күн бұрын

@@bonganinsele7703 They are used to negating people's rights for 100s of years, they are just continuing where their fathers Jan Van Reebeck and Cecil John Rhodes stopped.

@nhlakaniphom

21 күн бұрын

What is a dictator? Maybe you can help me understand the word dictator better

@BongiThombeni

21 күн бұрын

Funny it's no longer eff that is disturbilizing the parliament. JZ is smart we love him he's not captured finish and klaar

If they understood what democracy is then there should be no need for a forced dialogue and engage with politicians whose only intent is to continue looting. That's the reason why there is so much disagreement within the ANC and their voters about a DA led coalition..

@joecruiser

21 күн бұрын

Heads in the feeding troughs. Free dom.

@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb

21 күн бұрын

That's NOT the reason, black South Africa knows EXACTLY how it's treated the citizens of the country... It knows EXACTLY that 15% cannot and should NEVER have to inact socialism for them. They know that there government is holding 80% of all land EVERYWHERE in the SADC region and they 100% know knew and supported Russia China and BRICS looting the country dry! They did all this knowingly and the fo not even regret it, now the Zulus want KZN???? You the hell do you think armed the Zulu in apartheid against MK Zimbabwe? Must 85% of the nation look to less than 10% of it for handouts? The Bantu and Nguni days of fing everyones life up is over, it's only the DA that is stopping progress as Africa doesn't and can never progress whilst blaming others for their own short comings. They owe South Africa trillions and centuries worth of reparations, noone feels sorry for any African after the last 40 years of black communist apartheid rule it's glaringly onvious that they loved apartheid just hated the fact that they could not do we others can! If they didn't hate apartheid they would of dropped it after John Vorster in the 70s and not add another 113 new laws to it! They can a must all f off, they have no way of fixing anything nor the inclination to ever change... Instead of hating whites they should blame Islamic Africa but they remain to racist and stuck in victimhood. Still blaming western powers but refusing to accept how terribly obvious it is that 300 years was not enough for the Bantu Zulu to be civilized. Another 300 won't change them

Dr Louis pls advise the DA timeously all the time of the devious anc activities of the upper class!

MK is one time , one vote party , next election they will be gone

@kgomodilepetrusloate899

16 күн бұрын

I doubt it will be very bigger party without any anc

Sharing is good

The independent candidates are therefore penalised. That is not right. What about those that voted for an independent, not from their own region, or province. This is stupid.

@johnlouw6449

21 күн бұрын

It's to stop influence.

The Zulu and BOER are one okays

Be careful what you wish for. International experience shows that constituency based systems lead to domination by two or three big parties.

Pray they all get on well

MK is an illegal party, or its leader for the least!

19:45 yes we don't realise how much work they put in!

The truth is that Boers and Zulus have same mentality but different colors and their behavior is the same like one mother

@Tsebomjiks9789

20 күн бұрын

you are a tribalist. O kotse...

@sphiwecorneliusngwenya3900

20 күн бұрын

What you just commented is absolutely nonsensical bullshit 😒 damad @phillipmthalane

@senzomemela1311

19 күн бұрын

Boers and Zulu, two of the most powerful nations, ...focus on yourself...

ANC supporters are protesting against an ANC & DA coalition. What are the implications of these protests?

@Phillip-oo2ft

21 күн бұрын

...the 4..5??...protestors.. ...really??...apparently its 6 protestors..??

@thinadlamini4671

21 күн бұрын

They trying to sabotage the country.

@Phillip-oo2ft

21 күн бұрын

..4 protestors only...sorry.theres 5..in total

@biko8229

21 күн бұрын

@@Phillip-oo2ft They are representing many ANC members who are not prepared to go on tv yet because of the discipline that comes with being led in the ANC.

@balsak007

21 күн бұрын

​@@biko8229sure

Achmat???? Dear lawd spare us

Because he wants another five years in charge to increase his personal wealth👌👌💯💯😭😭

If the idea is that Parliament can be constituted with less than 350 seats, then in what event is there a re-election in 90 days? The provision of dissolution is in the event that Parliament can not be constituted with at least 350 members.

Mother what mother did u mean another

Can someone please tell me why dudu zambodla are not being charged with fraud and corruption for forging of signatures

@nxumalonkululeko4198

20 күн бұрын

You need to conduct a research before you state any point

@nxumalonkululeko4198

20 күн бұрын

You don't know what you saying

@amoebaslatoe7925

20 күн бұрын

You not answering my question​@nxumalonkululeko4198

@amoebaslatoe7925

20 күн бұрын

Why is the police and the hawks not investigating

@nxumalonkululeko4198

20 күн бұрын

​@@amoebaslatoe7925 because there is no case to be investigated

Put it on a white board

3:40 interesting point

Nice ❤

Very confusing numbers for the zuma camp no doubt 😂😂

The MK is looking at an independent KwaZulu Natal remember 1961 Natal wanted to secede from the rest of South Africa and this is what JZ is aimingfor

"Credible comeback" because theres the racist DA involved?....these people are funny

Sorry, but your guest is one of those to blame for the stupidity of the 3rd ballot!

So what was done by IEC is actually acceptable coz things are continuing normal knowing very well the results we working with were not true reflection💔

16:10 for sure, progress!

Good discussion

People like the prof seem not be aware about the fact that there is growing voter apathy. That could mean that a lot of people from the African segment want a change in the Constitution. This could allow the MK to exploit that disenchanted voter apathy element to its advantage". I imagine a scenario where those in parliament will only be recognised by a certain segment of the population.

This is the kind of information that would have been helpful if the public was made to understand how this new process worked. People would then not just know that their vote counted, but exactly how it counted. The votes could have been a completely different result and more people would have attended.

The sounds far too complicated.

@nickeybotha2155

20 күн бұрын

30%ter?

Very one Biznews has interviewed during this election has said one thing in common: Democracy is in full swing and working but how can this be when we have 60M people in this country and I understand a large amount is under 18 years old and can’t vote but still we had only 16M votes - how is that a Democracy?

@KevinPheiffer

21 күн бұрын

It is indeed a Democracy. Some chose to enact their "Democratic Right" to NOT vote.

@straatcaveman7503

21 күн бұрын

Ummm… people chose not to vote. Is it a poor decision? Yes. How is that non-Democratic though? Everyone had the option and right to register and vote. As an American, this is an amazing example of true democracy in action.

Rocket science?

Did anyone follow that math??? the math is not mathematics!!!

why vote fr poloticians, when will we vote fr their FUNDERS/CONTROLERS bcos they r the ones who decides everything in de country😤like how SPRINGBOKS ended up in de house of 1 man, bt not travel to other PROVINCES whom supported de team wholeheartedly, so why not just vote fr those CONTROLING 🤔👁

4 ballots next time? 🤦🏻 3 was complicated enough. 3 slowed down the whole process. Now they want 4. FFS.

Point of correction 58 seats not 57

Its you again ,sho like oh l know everything, !!!!

Squirrel Ramasopha made a comeback because he's a WEF owned puppet with a very small tribal following and the Corpos got, and kept, him in power

Academic intellectuals are very funny when they talk politics, you can hear that this one would struggle to lead a simple street committee in our neighbourhoods😂😂

@johnlouw6449

21 күн бұрын

If you apply what goes on in govt to your street what would happen? Just asking. 😅

@aarongunnz9513

21 күн бұрын

Street committee of uneducated people, stone throwers , criminals, loud mouths and

@biko8229

21 күн бұрын

@@johnlouw6449 Everything happening in government is applied on my street. Let me assist you, this guy thinks politics is like 1+1=2 and politics are not like that. He even has courage to dismiss people's votes so cold heartedly.

@johnlouw6449

21 күн бұрын

@@biko8229 It's not politics. It's procedure. It's how they allocate votes.

@BongiThombeni

21 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

Got lost 5 mins after his explanation

Good explanation, but I disagree entirely with the guest when he says that "Ramaphosa has regained his credibility just before the elections..." Ramaphosa has proven over the past 6 years that he is a useless, lame duck president. 👎🏼

@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl

21 күн бұрын

Why don't the different party leaders go for vote of no confidence against him. This country will never see any change 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

@junecoleman9030

21 күн бұрын

He would never rock the boat

Thank goodness we dont have constituencies! That kust opens the door to gerry mandring and electoral manipulation. The inclusion of independents was the most idiotic idea.

Did OHM get a seat

I think Zuma has a plan 🤔he always comes up with something, the very reason we debating this means he has something out of the ordinary up his sleeve 🤔😉

@Tsebomjiks9789

20 күн бұрын

yet the so-called educated keep on undermining him. we are in this situation because he came back and decimated ANC votes.

How do you sworn in a person in his/ her absence

The counting were definitely not honest.

MKP have opened our eyes political wider

What your trying say is nonsense

@nickeybotha2155

20 күн бұрын

30%ter?

Trouble is coming businesses especially the Stellenbosch mafia should stay out of politics negotiations.

Thank God LL is not in our parlement

You call fighting for our rights subbotag!?!?

Ur living in a bubble.

Louis. Ramaposa SUCKS,,,,,,, my bru....

... stop being ... naive ...

Ag rubbish!!!

Zuma probbaly couldnt read the numbers properly " 50 thousand er million or 50 or 5000, no listen carefully! ..we will boycott because we have 500 or so, no listen carefully now- close to 50 or ja you know the amount hehehhe so yes we will boycott " so its absolutely certain if he were to listen to this video he would already be staring eyes glazed the moment the word "numbers" was mentioned - completely lost

I just don't like this pattern of interviews when Blacks interview Blacks and white interviewers interview whites, this alone tells you that South Africa is still divided

Never heard any person polished unpolished item so shining as this man against his better knowing any system as he has polished this disaster, sorry!!! Very clearly and understandable but not as ....... at all ,!!!!!

@nickeybotha2155

20 күн бұрын

30%ter?

You are trying shem

He has never been credible, will never be.

@janineroux2398

21 күн бұрын

Not to someone like you, maybe... People are TRYING to have law and order in the country...

@joecruiser

21 күн бұрын

@@janineroux2398 Are you sure? A person like You clearly does not read much? Prefer the head in the Sand. 🤣

@janineroux2398

21 күн бұрын

@@joecruiser well I read your comment, didn't I?? Are you a, lawyer? Do you know what he is talking about, what his sentiments are, or do you just dislike him because he is the wrong colour?

@joecruiser

21 күн бұрын

@@janineroux2398 people like you have brought SA to it's knees. Unwilling to wake up to realities in Afrika.

@janineroux2398

21 күн бұрын

@@joecruiser i don't live there... Tell me, what are the realities there...? Because somebody sure has to fix them...