Why MILITARY Is The WORST Temple Sacrifice (Bloons TD 6)
Why MILITARY Is The WORST Temple Sacrifice in BTD6 / Bloons TD 6 - recently I've been getting a lot of comments in the youtube section & streams asking me why I skip the military category when I go for my temples, specifically during my boss runs. Here I explain the reasoning for it using numbers and logic.
0:00 Intro/The Basics
3:26 The Rest
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To reiterate it's certainly not useless, but it's the most expendable in most cases (like bloonarius). Check out the misconceptions video done in a similar style to this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hWeXtsiNpMSXh7Q.html
@anthonyvelasquez3212
2 жыл бұрын
Wassuppp
@dinnonuggets2584
2 жыл бұрын
10 hours ago?
@DoberMapping
2 жыл бұрын
Apple
@TopHatFreak
2 жыл бұрын
Apple
@DoberMapping
2 жыл бұрын
@@dinnonuggets2584 this video was unlisted 10 hours ago and he commented on it while it was unlisted,then when he removed the unlisted thing from the video it shows that the comment was 10 hours ago
For bloonarius the support temple rush strat is so good. You make money, get cheaper farms, and make the main temple so much cheaper.
@victorsmith8699
2 жыл бұрын
Ye but when do you rush it ? Isn't just going opolis into 420 and a t5 better ?
@JonathanMandrake
2 жыл бұрын
For Lych, it is best to not do any temples, or at least don't sacrifice any support towers
@kcbsuiejd
2 жыл бұрын
@@JonathanMandrake why? AoE type buffs arent consumed. only stuff like permabrew, overclock, Call to arms etc
@Counterfactual52
2 жыл бұрын
@@kcbsuiejd It isn't bad, but you'd probably be better off spamming paragons for lych
@joelbalsters5352
2 жыл бұрын
@@victorsmith8699 please explain
the reason i skip support for tier 4 temple is just so i dont have to deal with the discounted tower rates fucking up my maths leading to not having enough sacrifices for VTSG
@estolee5485
2 жыл бұрын
Just look at the sell prices
@SenyiKimmo
2 жыл бұрын
besides you can get a second support temple after the fact
@Ninrender
2 жыл бұрын
so relatable
@adlad1563
2 жыл бұрын
Easy skip for that: sell price should be 35k
@miltoska9708
2 жыл бұрын
ah yes. performing worse cause im lazy is something i also enjoy
that spectre do be lookin' kinda hot tho... edit: *i know, right?*
@jiobruh
2 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@vigorouspringle8962
2 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@muhammadtaufiqurrahmana2945
2 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@that1guy242
2 жыл бұрын
Ong fr fr ong ikr 👍🏿👍🏿🤔🤔😉😉
@SF3L
2 жыл бұрын
Ikr
Don't forget the epic strat of the farming temple, it's sick on bloonarius. That being said this info will help me for the rest of my Bloons career
@cookiemanbob4248
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@csabacsapo1864
2 жыл бұрын
Can somebody link me a video about farming temple strat?
@machixius
2 жыл бұрын
I missed when support temples gave 10k instead of 5k.
@sergeanthuman
2 жыл бұрын
@@csabacsapo1864 it's simple just get a temple with only support sacrifices. It isn't easy to get but when u get it ...
The analysis we've all been waiting for
@theepicbruhman2254
2 жыл бұрын
I havent
The discount from support Temple offsets the additional cost of getting it if you're going for a Vengeful Monkey. Massive discounts to Tech Terror, the Legend, and of course the True Sun God and the temple that comes before. Just remember not to get range on your main Supermonkey until you've got the sacs. Edit: whoops, ISAB already explains this later in the video.
as a single tower, support VTSG straight up does more damage than 2221 VTSG
@sapphire--9375
2 жыл бұрын
Vtsg requires maxed out sacrifices so they’re basically the same?
@magicmeatball4013
2 жыл бұрын
@@sapphire--9375 vtsg requires 3 sacs on sun temple and 4 sacs on tsg
@JonDoe-wk9qc
2 жыл бұрын
@@sapphire--9375 Max sacrifices is 3/4 for t4 temple and 4/4 for t5 temple. Due to it only being 3/4 categories for t4, there are 4 different vtsgs, each forgoing a second sacrifice in one category. Double support is very important without another t4 support temple because it double buffs the mini avatars, and as seen in the video, that buff is very important for total dps.
@sapphire--9375
2 жыл бұрын
@@JonDoe-wk9qc So it’s impossible to get the tier 5 support temple buff if you don’t go support vtsg, making it extremely useful in general. I see now, thanks.
@JonDoe-wk9qc
2 жыл бұрын
@@sapphire--9375 Not quite. While t4 and t5 support buffs are functionally identical in strength, they are 2 separate buffs. The t4 temple's support sacrifice is one type, seen on other towers as a sun temple icon. The t5 buff is seen on other towers as a tsg icon. If you skip support at t4, your 2221 vtsg will only give the tsg buff. The sun temple buff can then be stacked on by a separate xxx1 t4 temple.
Man, I REALLY like your explanation vids. Like, challenge runs and strat showcases are fun, but your informative content is spot on. The explanation was solid, the data was (overly) scientific, and I got better at the game just watching. I don't know if these videos do well in the algorithm, but if they're feasible, I would love more of this.
I'm surprised by the fact that it beats military in the damage test. Even if it was a bit weaker, I would still say support is better because it also 1. generates a lot of money 2. provides a huge, unique discount 3. buffs everything else significantly
this is the PERFECT video format. It's engaging enough for me to follow along and stay interesyed, but it makes me sleepy :3
@spiffyavatar3611
2 жыл бұрын
I know that feeling
@polarthelunatic
2 жыл бұрын
@@spiffyavatar3611 Me too.
*Breaking news: Isab in the hospital after carrying the entire BTD6 community on his back.*
@jocabulous
2 жыл бұрын
he sucks at battles but he does not suck at btd6
@thecsnowman4619
2 жыл бұрын
@@jocabulous he is in hall of masters while u probs in red bloon camp
@jocabulous
2 жыл бұрын
@@thecsnowman4619 no he sucks at battles he said so
@ThePenisMan
Жыл бұрын
@@thecsnowman4619 no like literally, I Suck At Battles said it himself that he sucks at battles. I personally think *I* *S*uck *A*t *B*attles is pretty good as well, but I’m no expert
@dashingclasher
Жыл бұрын
@@thecsnowman4619 1. isab literally stands for "i suck at battles" 2. no one asked for you to throw a random insult
i prefer having a couple temples with support to reach across the whole map then use the rest of my temples for pure damage
@webbowser8834
2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: If you have a support temple being buffed by level 20 Adora active and epic range, you can easily cover the entire map with just a single support temple. Adora is super fun for freeplay shennanigans.
@Idontlikeanyonehere
2 жыл бұрын
I’m scared of these people that have multiple temples
@Justradleg
2 жыл бұрын
U on that btd battles shit?
@raghavsinghal3419
2 жыл бұрын
like for cleanup right
@kamidesuka
2 жыл бұрын
@@Idontlikeanyonehere same.
Military doesn’t add enough DPS to be worth it, and Support buffs synergise well with Sun Temple buffs
@vyor8837
2 жыл бұрын
Only time it's worth it is a vengeful, cause that doesn't increase the support buff
I've been wanting to know about this, thank you for the informative video ISAB! :)
Hmm, I usually skip Primary, I knew Avatars +Temple buff was busted but i guess military not inheriting alch buff makes sense why youd wanna skip it
@13thKingMu
2 жыл бұрын
Also most primary towers are much cheaper to get tier 5 compared to military unless elite sniper ig
@turtlememes2334
2 жыл бұрын
@@13thKingMu tier 5 has nothing to do with temple tier, you need 50k cash in the category
@mizzyoce
2 жыл бұрын
@@13thKingMu uhhhhh you have to spend 50k to achieve max primary, military, magic or support buff. It doesnt matter whether the towers are cheaper. A ton of bricks weigh the same as a ton of feathers.
@13thKingMu
2 жыл бұрын
Alright,i forgot about that
@mizzyoce
2 жыл бұрын
@@13thKingMu just making sure you dont stuff up your temples!
I like informational videos like this because although I’ve been playing Bloons TD6 since global release, I haven’t grasped what temple sacrifices do and what combos to sacrifice.
sometimes i dont even watch isabs videos, i just read the title and take his word for it he really is that reliable
Dude your analyses videos are incredible and thorough I can’t express enough how helpful these are going to be for the recent surge in new players
I see going for a magic is more optimal that's what I thought but military was a surprise cause. I guess I play the game casually and it's really good to know stuff like this especially when you play bloonarious every drop COUNTS
I hate how almost everyone thinks that support is the worst sacrifice
@matthewcutrona9515
2 жыл бұрын
It is
@pillowy9726
2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewcutrona9515 …
@RickMattison314
2 жыл бұрын
Support is one of the best sacrifices, if not *the* best.
@pillowy9726
2 жыл бұрын
@@RickMattison314 ikr, I love the support buff
@pillowy9726
2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewcutrona9515 did you even watch the video you clicked?
I've never known how temples work. Thanks for the info!
Isn’t the spectre thing related to cost? Cos it said spectre 1 and spectre 2 but for the primarysacrifices 1 and 2 referenced the type of projectile depending on money spent, so I’d imagine that the stats for spectres were for money spent
@somethingfunny9488
2 жыл бұрын
It caps at 50K, like all sacrifices
@PopeMical
2 жыл бұрын
As shown at 2:33 you get 1 specter 1 and 1 specter 2 for 50k in military. Meanwhile 50k of primary gives you the strongest levels of the blades and glaives.
wait I can only do 3 categories? I always thought you needed all of them
@yousufpasha1823
2 жыл бұрын
That's for t5
@justasuit2271
2 жыл бұрын
Ye for sun temple you need to choose 3, and then for t5 all of em
isab making a very well thought out video: me looking at the health he has at 8:45 : nice.
ISAB is better than Superjombombo, no cringe just straight to the point. best BTD channel out there
if u are making a vtsg (vengeful true sun god) it has its own support buff unlike the normal true sun god which has both the 400 support buff and the 500 buff so that should be taken into consideration before choosing ur sacrifices
@aa01blue38
2 жыл бұрын
I think it might just be visual, like Ultraboost vs Overclock. Except maybe it's stronger cuz vtsg, idk
@RickMattison314
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think so. A VTSG buff is the same as normal TSG buff.
10:34 sure do love those amazing monkey names and pictures
This is very useful. I never knew I was wasting money on doing full sacrifices on 4th tier when I could save ~50k money in the long run
Actually makes sense now why I do what I do. Just did no military sac since the planes were annoying originally and now there is more reason not to do this. Thanks for the good video
I do not have money to play this game yet i still watch ISAB because i enjoy the BTD series. Keep it up my man.
@josiahday210
2 жыл бұрын
bruh its like 5 dollars
@Jexhee
2 жыл бұрын
i know and i dont have money bruh
Fun fact if you use pat fusty ability on a moab right when it pops you can 'create' more bloons. Though i dont think they patched it but they probally didnt since its a really secret bug. And i think its a frame perfect glitch.
note:when playing lategame use a 2221 temple as then you can get max amount of temple while having a vtsg
For a long while, I believed that it enlarges the temple’s beam and also shoots out golden missiles acting like moab Maulers.
Been watching off and on since the btd battles days, havent started playing btd6 until a couple weeks ago and these videos are actually very helpful on teaching me what not to do
I feel like it's critically important to do this test with 10 ultraboost stacks + overclock because you'll always go for it on a Vengeful, military benefits from it and magic avatars don't. Either way good video and I agree support is underrated but probably not better than military if all you want is max dps out of a fully buffed Vengeful
@SwiftNinjask
2 жыл бұрын
exactly. In basically all late-game scenarios you will have ultraboost, and ever since NK put a cap on the # of avatars spawned magic isn't quite as good.
@Santisima_Trinidad
2 жыл бұрын
So, whilst you are correct about the magic avatars not inheriting the ultraboost stacks, you are forgetting something, which is that Vengeful gives a 2× damage buff to all sub spawns, applied after additive damage buffs. Which means a double support, which gives plus 4 damage to each avatar projectile, suddenly becomes a +8buff. Which is significantly more than a +4 buff from single support. And the mini sun avatars are far stronger than military planes, so, whilst the overclock buff might level the playingfield somewhat, i really doubt that it will actually outdo the extra support buff. But that is only without a second support temple.
@SCRKT007
2 жыл бұрын
@@Santisima_Trinidad thats kind of the mistake of this video specifically, you always buy a support temple instead when going for high rounds and just squeeze out the highest dps you can get on the main vtsg, Its always included in terms of overbuffing and ik he talked about how money might be a problem but that can be solved by learning how to do it properly instead, reading guides = higher capped vtsg
@Mammaark
2 жыл бұрын
@@Santisima_Trinidad dude, nk nerfed the support sacrifice for the vengeful a long time ago. It used to gain the bonus from the vengeful but now it doesn't. The other sacrifices still do
@Santisima_Trinidad
2 жыл бұрын
@@Mammaark really? I did not know that. Thank you for informing me..
I genuinely had no idea that the support temple buff a) affected the avatars and b) did more than just +range & 20% off. I knew they were good, but not THAT good
Ah alright, I play BTD 6 and usually made 2221 TSG/VTSG. Always wondered why you went with 2212. Thanks for the explaination!
Question: if I only have one tower I could sacrifice what path should I go for.
@duck4ce532
2 жыл бұрын
12:20 he says always go magic
@noobplicity9861
Жыл бұрын
none cause the temple is going to suck anyway
if your going for a vtsg go you should skip support and get another support temple in range of the vtsg so that you get the benifits of all the categories of sacrifices
I'm really liking these misconception videos
isabbb i’ll see you at your next stream hopefully, keep up the good work
I usually go for 2-2-2-1 vengeful in bloonarius because I usually have FU money and will do something like place two 1-0-1-1 temples as well.
Those are some very interesting dart monkeys in bloonarious
Fun fact for the initial 1110 test. You had a 4-2-0 temple (you can tell by the headdress and the red stripe on the temple) but in the 1011 temple test you did not. This even further exacerbates how good the 1011 temple is! Personally, I had no idea the temple buff (or any buff) worked on the mini avatars!
huh. . . I thought the support made the mini avatars (referencing engis). I suppose thats a misconception for me!
Finally. No more people telling you to get military
@matthewcutrona9515
2 жыл бұрын
Get military
to test the vtsg you could have just done a challenge with infinite money and lives
So Glad you did this video. Please do more video on sniper monkey, and what does Elite sniper option does to other snipers!
I had so much confusion about temples before this so thank you
Me when I am early. Also, I thought magic was worse than military. Another thing is I thought support spawned the mini avatars, because I have gotten 50K in primary, 50K in support, and 50K in military, and still got the mini avatars, unless that changed it, or got magic on accident.
Something I just want to ask is with VTSG 2122 you get the black buff icon and when getting another support temple it gives the t4 temple buff as well as the VTSG buff on nerby towers Does this mean you can stack 3 temple buffs onto towers? 2 from the VTSG and 1 from the sun temple?
@BunnyOnASnuman
2 жыл бұрын
Isn't that a bug?
@rookie2128
2 жыл бұрын
No, if your vtsg has double support sac temple buff will not do anything, However, if you have vtsg with one support sac and then a support temple, those will stack together
@CarmenLC
2 жыл бұрын
@@rookie2128 so the TSG buff is just a subset of the VTSG buff? like how top path villages dont stack
@rookie2128
2 жыл бұрын
@@CarmenLC uhhh, kinda? Tsg buff is the same as vtsg in actual effects though
@CarmenLC
2 жыл бұрын
@@rookie2128 huh why does it have a whole ass new icon lmao style points?
I remember i made post on reddit about it, and people was like : "hmm ok, im gonna spawn military tample anyways" XD
5:15 I see what you did there, and I’m not sure if it was intentional or not.
Next video: someone makes a challenge that shows where military sacrifice can shine
Literally isab “ support can’t buff itself so I’ll get military”
Never underestimate the knowledge of a top expert player of a game
I would like to see what is the most efficient way of making money (rubber to gold, merchantmen/favored trades, banana farms, jungles bounty)
@Paigemeelee
2 жыл бұрын
Bro a strategy I use is 3 1-0-0 banana farms into 3 2-0-0 then upgrade to banks and rubber to gold after first banks collect then just factory spam till the 50's then jungles bounty at round 68 just sell and VTSG
@atenbobi
2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Bloon Trap from the engineer. That's an awesome, and fun money maker.
Lol dude if I have to go vengeful sun god then you have to ignore support first then you get all the types of towers. Also adding a MAD (if you aren’t already) is really good, i have a friend who is a boss at this game( his highest round is 205) and he said that it doesn’t matter if it’s stronger it matters if it costs more which is why mad is good sacrifice for military
@officergreg1318
2 жыл бұрын
This is wrong. As long as it’s 50k or more it doesn’t matter how much it costs. Military is the worst sacrifice
dude, I was always skipping out on magic for tier 4 cuz I thought it was the worst one
@blazelegend4602
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, magic is best because sun avatars are op
The only provlem I have with support is it gives the sun avatar more range and sometimes I don't want it to sacrifice my entire merchantmen army
One thing possibly missed is that VTSG gets extra special bonuses for all categories except Support. That's probably another factor to why many go for a 2221 VTSG and a Support Temple. Me? I only normally summon it with boss guides, so whatever the video-maker does, I will do too.
I find it kind of funny you release something talking about the temple, when they actually blocked 5-X-X super monkeys in the latest Bloonarius. I guess they really want us to use those Paragons.
When are you going to Upload this Week's Expert Bloonarius run? I've had a lot of trouble with this one specially
@whenistrike
2 жыл бұрын
There's other people that make videos on Bloonarius?
I buy temple 0011(410) first, and then put the super monkey in its radius, making the temple update(400 and 500) and super monkey 005 cheaper
As someone that doesnt know how the temple works, that helped a lot
Just get a 2221 temple and before you buy t5 get a quick support temple and boom discount on the t5 basically payed for the t4 and you get both buffs
I love bdt6 science videos and this is a great one
8:28 whonoticed the number of lives
I’ve found that a VTSG single support plus another Temple’s support stack on each other, meaning military on VTSG can be used without sacrificing support
Don’t know if you’ve made a video of this already, but a farming strategies video would be cool and pretty helpful in something like Bloonarius.
I always get a 2221 with the support one last because it makes sacrificing easier because i don't have to think about money.
THIS IS AMAZING HOW IN 1 MONTH YOU MAKEF 400000 SUBSCRIBERS I REMEMBER WHEN YOU HAD 100 SUBSCRIBERS WOW
Tbh I skip support because I have failed too many vtsgs from being a dumbass and forgetting about the discount
This is actually one of your most useful videos yet
I love these tips kind of videos from you
Really nice video with the layout and explanations
9:30 I thought that as well, that a 2-2-2-1 TSG + a 1-0-1-1 Temple would result in the best overall DPS, but I think there are two aspects to investigate further imo: 1) since both TSG and temple can apply their buffs, a 2-1-2-2 TSG + a 1-0-1-1 temple will give you 3 times the support buffs, instead of just two of the 2-2-2-1 TSG + support temple. It would be interesting to see how much impact it will have. 2) I can't really judge how good the military "projectile size" buff is and how much impact it has on the overall DPS. Doesn't a larger projectile size means that more bloons will be hit by the same projectile? Isn't that similar to a splash dmg effect then? If so, then I wouldn't underestimate the impact of such buff in super late rounds when bloons fills up the screen.
What a well done and informative video. Thanks!
I always went with military because of the spectres, but that's just because the spectre is my favorite plane path. I am addicted to the spectre.
guess I don't use sun temples enough, had no idea T4 was 3 types of sacrifice, thought it was just "50k of every class" to max it
8:26 696969 lives: perfectly balanced, as all things should be
The only time I go for military sacrifices is when I try to summon a VTSG.
I always get a 2122 vengfull in a spot with almost full map range, but get military for the temples in the corners.
I Always go 2221 vtsg plus 1 Support temple that’s the best option and the strongest one if u have money for it
Thank you so much for this video it will help me out a ton!
omg finally a good player said, that 1011 4th tier is better like wtf a few months ago i said and used that all the time but everyone called me an idiot thx 4 the vid
12:20 It's crazy that you even came up with that scenario as an exemple xD
@ddog7811
2 жыл бұрын
It was in a challenge that he did
@egulio
2 жыл бұрын
@@ddog7811 ah thanks for the info I wasn't aware
So, the best temple performance is the sacrifice of $50k each of all monkey types? For every important things
@PopeMical
2 жыл бұрын
Tier 4 temple only accepts 3/4 of the types hence why you can't buy them all on a single temple.
Fun fact: in late game runs 2122 is still better as you can fill it's range with 1110 temples with 1 1011 to buff VTSG
oh, never knew about this! thanks for the amazing help!
I did not know paragons are not sacked. that means you could squeeze them under area temple takes together with hero. that would make one dense tree stump.
You know ISAB I wonder why Temple is broken at battles 2 (pre release) cause of this Video I'm pretty sure
Good vid , thanks for the temple guide
use the sacrifice helper mod or whatever whenever you do a paragon video
You do get we need military to create the true vengeful sun god
It's funny, even after a while of playing I still have 0xp for my super monkey
I was actually testing this on sandbox the other day,actually surprised military was bad and primary was really strong
@justasuit2271
2 жыл бұрын
Primary doubles attack speed so yeah lol
Ok well ISAB one question If I get a true sun god but a 2 2 1 2 how would that change the magic? I mean it still summons avatars
I've been waiting for this video