Why military gear isn't always a good idea...

/ followthecompassnorth This is a youtube shorts version of: • STOP BUYING THIS KNIFE!

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  • @mdtaffel8043
    @mdtaffel8043 Жыл бұрын

    Military grade: " The cheapest supplier we could find"

  • @chasecollins3263

    @chasecollins3263

    Жыл бұрын

    Such cheap, much wow

  • @angelsjoker8190

    @angelsjoker8190

    Жыл бұрын

    And able to mass produce in large numbers.

  • @TheBehm08

    @TheBehm08

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean he’s not wrong. However sometimes the cheapest supplier ends up making something very valuable, durable, and a work of art. It’s not often tho

  • @thekommisarfirstsecretary

    @thekommisarfirstsecretary

    Жыл бұрын

    . Mine doesn't and has never BENT. Edited because military GRADE does not mean GOOD

  • @riannascott8716

    @riannascott8716

    Жыл бұрын

    For the most cost *

  • @DavyDave1313
    @DavyDave13132 жыл бұрын

    “Stop. Buying. This. Knife.” Me who has never bought a knife: “Ok”

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh good! I got to you in time then!

  • @DobermansRock

    @DobermansRock

    2 жыл бұрын

    Its the best machined version I have found. Search around you might find one that suits you better. You cannot go wrong with this knife. Been around since 1865 with the only changes being steel, different name (K55K Mercator cat knife was first), and way better machining. Otters are stainless hence water and the name.

  • @rain8767

    @rain8767

    2 жыл бұрын

    You should get one, just not this one.

  • @sophiacristina

    @sophiacristina

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Stop buying this knife"... I can't it is a compulsion, i have 42069 of those!

  • @luciusireckon2469

    @luciusireckon2469

    2 жыл бұрын

    Better to have a coat in hot weather than no coat in cold weather

  • @definitelynotakgbagent6612
    @definitelynotakgbagent661210 ай бұрын

    You see this is why I use a bayonet off a carcano rifle because not only is it strong, it’s rusty so it does poison damage and it is basically as small sword

  • @tigertoxins584

    @tigertoxins584

    6 ай бұрын

    Idk what you mean bro, I live in the states and I just carry my balisong with me everywhere

  • @ELSENIORBACON

    @ELSENIORBACON

    6 ай бұрын

    The bayonet off my Romanian akm is pretty good quality, looks like a knife also is detachable

  • @JamesThomas-kx5sj

    @JamesThomas-kx5sj

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@ELSENIORBACONAnd it can cut wire with the sheath

  • @tomaszgaluba1459

    @tomaszgaluba1459

    6 ай бұрын

    If you use wires, connect them to the bayonette and plug into 220V outlet, it will add 10 thunder damage on top of the poison from rust!

  • @theghost8914

    @theghost8914

    6 ай бұрын

    If you also put pink and purple paint on it and a few unicorn stickers it can do psychic dmg as well.

  • @EdgyShooter
    @EdgyShooter Жыл бұрын

    Those leather disks also seem like they'd trap moisture, it already appears to be rusting

  • @davnadz

    @davnadz

    7 ай бұрын

    true. can vouch for that. also will never not smell like fish.

  • @Gameplayer55055

    @Gameplayer55055

    6 ай бұрын

    It's a problem for a knife made of stainful steel

  • @McFarJordan

    @McFarJordan

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@Gameplayer55055 Stainful steel is actually hilarious

  • @ImperialistRunningDo

    @ImperialistRunningDo

    4 ай бұрын

    In jungle climes, the leather handles would get slimy and rot. Lovely.

  • @CrayonEater2003
    @CrayonEater2003 Жыл бұрын

    Military Grade just means "These things are cheap enough to pass out to 1,000,000 guys."

  • @jb76489

    @jb76489

    11 ай бұрын

    #shitidiotssay

  • @siamwse

    @siamwse

    11 ай бұрын

    basil?

  • @CrayonEater2003

    @CrayonEater2003

    11 ай бұрын

    @@siamwse 'Sup, Sunny?

  • @siamwse

    @siamwse

    11 ай бұрын

    @@CrayonEater2003 OH so it is i like ur pfp

  • @quietpsycho1

    @quietpsycho1

    10 ай бұрын

    I need to remember this for the next time I hear someone whingeing about "military grade firearms".

  • @Woody-nc1ru
    @Woody-nc1ru2 жыл бұрын

    This is one of Murphey's laws: "Remember your equipment is made by the lowest bidder."

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dang, I only heard the one law until now but I agree in the message.

  • @billkurek13

    @billkurek13

    2 жыл бұрын

    P

  • @christopherrenaud2215

    @christopherrenaud2215

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are saddly a very true and wise man. Why has the world turned its back on real craftsman and real quality and . . . oh yea . . . $ . . . more important then life itself . . . Do Not GO CHEAP!

  • @Woody-nc1ru

    @Woody-nc1ru

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@christopherrenaud2215 I did 10 years (89-99)with 4 deployments. I'm very well acquainted with Mr. Murphy, he followed us around constantly. The lowest bidder, things that must be together to work usually can't be shipped together. This was so true especially using AF cargo planes, it was a major pain in the ass! No plan survives the first contact, (more like, no plan survives once you walk out of the brief) Radios will fail as soon as you desperately need them, were so true. We also had the "No training fairy" She was with us always too.😉

  • @dougevans6389

    @dougevans6389

    2 жыл бұрын

    Woody 5326 thank you for your service!! We are free because of men and woman like you!!! The 2 things we have to have to stay free and fed is soldiers and truck drivers!! And both are out there doing what they do and spend too much time away from their family so thank God for both!!

  • @TTD666
    @TTD6669 ай бұрын

    Returning my gear to supply: “Yea I can’t find the knife” Supply-“okay that’ll be $459.98”

  • @masterace9543

    @masterace9543

    6 ай бұрын

    Sounds about right

  • @CSltz

    @CSltz

    5 ай бұрын

    Not really 1977 MA-1 jacket. They said was obsolete. So I sent it home. $25 or35 dollars. Next to the full parka and field jacket some of the best clothing Uncle Sam bought.

  • @BratislavMetulski

    @BratislavMetulski

    12 күн бұрын

    ​@@CSltzExactly. Jacket bought in the bushcraft survival tactical internet store from beard guy: 600$. The exact same jacket from the military: 20$

  • @Odd_Interaction

    @Odd_Interaction

    3 күн бұрын

    Messed up at my 1st duty assignment, they issued the old M7 and mine was dull. So I sharpened it, then ended up having to pay for it. Received and signed for another dull one. Put the sharpened one in my Kimchi Cabinet and used the issue bayonet as a pick to soften or break up dirt and to pop the metal bands, mostly on ammo crates. I still have the sharpened one.

  • @claytonhusted
    @claytonhusted6 ай бұрын

    Being in the military has taught me two things about the term "Military Grade. #1. It is built by the absolute lowest bidder. #2. It is left over from WWII.

  • @simtexa
    @simtexa Жыл бұрын

    It's worth to remember that a lot of military hardware, especially older stuff, would have been made to be quite cheap, since it was mass-produced to meet minimal requirements.

  • @danvondrasek

    @danvondrasek

    Жыл бұрын

    I have military equipment that's going on 100 years old and is in like new condition with daily use. I have rifles that are reaching 200 years old and still like new.

  • @jakesanchez6621

    @jakesanchez6621

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@danvondrasek 200 years?? The fuck kinda "halt or thou shalt be fired upon" type guns are you packing?

  • @danvondrasek

    @danvondrasek

    Жыл бұрын

    @Jake Sanchez the 1820s-1840s is not the "halt or thou shall be fired upon" Era, its the "yal wanna go invade Mexico? YEEEEHAWW" period

  • @rohanofelvenpower5566

    @rohanofelvenpower5566

    Жыл бұрын

    It was mass produced to a minimum because there plenty of man resources in relation to budget for equipment. This puts the situation into better perspective because the military usually has more budget than it needs at the sacrifice or other useful infrastructure in the country.

  • @DJ-iu5bb

    @DJ-iu5bb

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@danvondraseklol more like I don't give a f what the Slave Master say Ill call that C Word to his face Slave Masters : Get that N Word! 😂

  • @alphinha1094
    @alphinha10942 жыл бұрын

    "A knife is something you should be able to trust with your life" Spoken like a true Londoner

  • @Mark_nobody3

    @Mark_nobody3

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unless the police are watching because if you have a knife in public, they know some idiot will use it for criminal activity

  • @jimtaylor294

    @jimtaylor294

    2 жыл бұрын

    The irony is that the UK is so particular about *Challenge 25* for Knives... yet Hammers... anyone can buy them XD. (to say nothing about all the other stuff that even a kid could buy, that's as lethal in the wrong hands, as a knife) Better idea: we shouldn't waste time trying to micromanage ownership of knives, we should be instilling and encouraging personal responsibility. "You own a knife?, who cares!?... *unless you do something stupid or illegal with it* "

  • @zapperplays6088

    @zapperplays6088

    2 жыл бұрын

    Don't bend it then

  • @StudleyDuderight

    @StudleyDuderight

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's one of Murphy's Unwritten Laws of Combat.

  • @sw00t_yprd79

    @sw00t_yprd79

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jesus Christ is The way the truth and the life no one goes to the Father except through him.

  • @MattSinz
    @MattSinz6 ай бұрын

    Full tang just means the tang extends the full length of the grip-portion of a handle, not that it's as wide as the grip. when the tang is as wide as the grip it's called slab construction.

  • @alexistaylor969
    @alexistaylor9698 ай бұрын

    It is called an "Air Crew Survival Knife" but the word survive here just means, maybe make fire starter or clean some game/cut herbs and roots for food, but its primary purpose was to cut rigging on parachutes and maybe silently kill pursuers. It is a stabby knife, meant to be light and hopefully never be used, and if used, to kill people and take their stuff. It is not a heavy duty knife.

  • @user-bu3zz2po6n

    @user-bu3zz2po6n

    18 күн бұрын

    Even then id expect better. What is issued these days?

  • @G1NZOU

    @G1NZOU

    2 күн бұрын

    @@user-bu3zz2po6n The Aircrew Survival Egress Knife was not exactly replaced but Gerber designed the LMF II to be ASEK-compliant and it was approved for purchase It still has only a partial tang but there's a good reason for that, it's designed for cutting through aircraft skin and acrylic windows, with holes to tie it to a stick to make a makeshift spear, the partial tang means the polymer and rubber handle is electrically insulated, so you can cut through electrical cables. With the intended use for the knife, you don't really need a full tang as you're not going to be batoning firewood, as if you're a downed pilot you don't want to build a fire and draw the enemy to you if you go down near or behind enemy lines.

  • @user-bu3zz2po6n

    @user-bu3zz2po6n

    2 күн бұрын

    @@G1NZOU i hate gerber so much.

  • @cestgum7672
    @cestgum76722 жыл бұрын

    yeah my 2 friends in the military told me "military grade" really just means really cheap mass produced items that barely work

  • @kyleschafer6275

    @kyleschafer6275

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because it is. Trust me ik.

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup

  • @death6160

    @death6160

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kyleschafer6275 thanks for you service

  • @Teh_Random_Canadian

    @Teh_Random_Canadian

    2 жыл бұрын

    Military grade = lowest bidder that just meets minimum spec... Commerical grade high quality equivalents are almost always going to be a superior product.

  • @HoseTheBeast

    @HoseTheBeast

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Military grade" is the single dumbest fucking marketing word out there. What the fuck does that even mean. And this is coming from a soldier XD

  • @dookcurruff9047
    @dookcurruff90472 жыл бұрын

    Happened to my ka bar

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've seen this happen to three ka bars as well. Even when not being abused like I am doing in this video. They aren't even the issued knife for the USMC anymore. They now get M9 bayonets. It's just the meal team six cosplayers who think the ka bar is cool. Disappointing frankly.

  • @Mono_Autophobic

    @Mono_Autophobic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Idk why he pinned but he's gonna get likes automatically, and so his replies

  • @mattpassos5689

    @mattpassos5689

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Mono_Autophobic so?

  • @Mono_Autophobic

    @Mono_Autophobic

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mattpassos5689 so what

  • @paws27

    @paws27

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Mono_Autophobic Exactly

  • @JustDevon1
    @JustDevon1 Жыл бұрын

    Funnily enough my survival instructor was an army veteran and survivalist. And he showed us one knife that you could put your entire body weight on, with it only flexed slightly, and another one that snapped in two instantly. Guess which one was the military knife

  • @zay0_n4ra11

    @zay0_n4ra11

    11 ай бұрын

    The one that stabbed yer chest when you tried to put your weight on it! 👍

  • @BigDaddySwingingMeat

    @BigDaddySwingingMeat

    11 ай бұрын

    I have used an ESEE 5 Survival knife as a stepping stone to climb up a tree. It passed that test with flying colors because it has the thickest tang of any blade I own. Much thicker than an ESEE 6.

  • @matthewjones39

    @matthewjones39

    10 ай бұрын

    @@zay0_n4ra11What?

  • @generalmarkmilleyisbenedic8895

    @generalmarkmilleyisbenedic8895

    10 ай бұрын

    @@matthewjones39The one that stabbed yer chest when you tried to put your weight on it!👍🏻

  • @matthewjones39

    @matthewjones39

    10 ай бұрын

    @@generalmarkmilleyisbenedic8895 The one that stabbed yer chest when you tried to put your weight on it! 👍🏻

  • @TCG9777
    @TCG97776 ай бұрын

    "Stop buying THIS knife..." *Never seen this before*

  • @GBullockNC
    @GBullockNC Жыл бұрын

    Me, who works in a cubicle all day: 🤔✍️

  • @LifenaDay525

    @LifenaDay525

    Жыл бұрын

    You should do a “Stop buying this pen” tic toc

  • @sebastianriz4703

    @sebastianriz4703

    Жыл бұрын

    @Duffelbag Drag He needs a good knife... CUZ HE LIVES IN A VAN, DOWN BY THE RIVER.

  • @sillygooberment

    @sillygooberment

    Жыл бұрын

    That's sad

  • @raihanwinata5329

    @raihanwinata5329

    Жыл бұрын

    Who says a office man cant have a reliable knife But you clearly dont need a bushcraft one

  • @Magnet_Chaos

    @Magnet_Chaos

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sillygooberment It is sad he doesn't have a knife. But that problem can easily be solved by buying one.

  • @supimzazz
    @supimzazz Жыл бұрын

    *Stares at my fork and knife * You guys better not be "military grade"

  • @goosyloose4115

    @goosyloose4115

    Жыл бұрын

    Then bends with thumb

  • @dergunter1237

    @dergunter1237

    Жыл бұрын

    if they are out of plastic it is military grade

  • @mrnohax5436

    @mrnohax5436

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dergunter1237 *imagine getting shanked by a MRE spoon*

  • @TheNunakun

    @TheNunakun

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually, even dollarstore table knives are full tang. Weak metal though

  • @mkyn-tl5oc

    @mkyn-tl5oc

    Жыл бұрын

    So old and barely working then?

  • @denimjez
    @denimjez Жыл бұрын

    Mora does an injection molded grip on a rat tail type tang too, and its the gold standard bushcraft knife. A full tang isnt necessary, but it can make a crap knife preform better. I place more blame on the choice of steel, but thats the start of the list of problems for this knife.

  • @alanrogs3990
    @alanrogs39906 ай бұрын

    I have one of these Ontario knives. I bought it from an Army/Navy surplus store back in the late 1970's when I was a kid. The guy made my mom come in to okay it before he'd sell it to me. I still have it but I did break a tiny tip off the end. I think it was $10, maybe $15. If I want to chop wood I'll bring an axe.

  • @Laz7481

    @Laz7481

    5 ай бұрын

    Apparently the old ones were much better made. The one shown in the video is likely a post 2006 production.

  • @chickentendies4485
    @chickentendies44852 жыл бұрын

    If you ever see "military grade" or "mil spec", all that means is it is easily produced, has enough rigidity to hold up frequent use, FOR THE CHEAPEST PRICE. Military grade doesn't mean super tough and strong, it means "good enough."

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    True in most cases.

  • @skynsidhawaii

    @skynsidhawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ok, ill just throw this k bar away then. .

  • @djtrac3r935

    @djtrac3r935

    2 жыл бұрын

    What about police grade? Same concept?

  • @skynsidhawaii

    @skynsidhawaii

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@djtrac3r935 your m16 is defective.. let me issue you an AR 15 from palmetto state armory

  • @djtrac3r935

    @djtrac3r935

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@skynsidhawaii do you know how little that narrows it down?

  • @Judoka008
    @Judoka008 Жыл бұрын

    As someone who had been buying this knife twice a day, every day for the past 10 years, I want to thank you for the opening line. I knew I should stop buying it, but I just needed to hear someone else say it.

  • @cedricpilote4300

    @cedricpilote4300

    Жыл бұрын

    Lmao😂

  • @bromethiustrilbotbromeldeh6625

    @bromethiustrilbotbromeldeh6625

    Жыл бұрын

    Goddamnit

  • @raimobrunning3657

    @raimobrunning3657

    Жыл бұрын

    😃🤣🤣

  • @joshuaoyadokun3502

    @joshuaoyadokun3502

    Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @derealized797

    @derealized797

    Жыл бұрын

    You call that a knife? This is a knife 🔪

  • @thefeelcompany
    @thefeelcompany Жыл бұрын

    Binging on your channel, man. It chills me out. Some major life changes lately and I’ve been thinking I need to go camping to help relax and found your channel. Cheers, Simo!

  • @paulbarrett3361
    @paulbarrett336110 ай бұрын

    It was built for airman to use during WW2 to cut themselves out of the canopy and wasn't made for stupid use.

  • @watchm4ker

    @watchm4ker

    4 ай бұрын

    1958, for that model, and it was supposed to be replaced in 2003. Don't know how strong the ASEK is, but the fragility was one of the problems they were supposed to solve.

  • @erikbrock5444

    @erikbrock5444

    4 ай бұрын

    Never defend sloppiness, my friend, especially if your tax dollars are paying for it and people's lives might depend on it. Cut enough corners and things start rolling downhill.

  • @RvnKnight

    @RvnKnight

    4 ай бұрын

    How many times have you had to use a pipe or a screwdriver as a hammer because the hammer you were issued snapped the head off the handle immediately on first use out of the package? Most military gear has specific purposes, but is never made to standard, so it never fulfills that purpose. I learned that the hard way as a private back in 2003 setting up an antenna in Iraq.

  • @riarivera5995
    @riarivera59952 жыл бұрын

    There's a reason "military grade" is a major meme in the forces lol. Insightful and educational content, really like it!

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man!

  • @DoktrDub

    @DoktrDub

    2 жыл бұрын

    “Military grade just means the cheapest that Uncle Sam can get it for”

  • @dimitrijekrstic7567

    @dimitrijekrstic7567

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DoktrDub it's also about the standard/requirements. If it can achieve the same standard for less money, it's a reasonable choice. But if you set that standard too low, you get shitty stuff. The bar should be set higher and then you get the cheapest option and everyone's happy

  • @filmandfirearms

    @filmandfirearms

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dimitrijekrstic7567 That's basically what they do, the military just has a really bad habit of not looking into why something is so cheap. If it does the job on paper, that's good enough for them

  • @dimitrijekrstic7567

    @dimitrijekrstic7567

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@filmandfirearms yeah...unfortunate for the men depending on that equipment. But people should really be educated better when it comes to their countries military exploits and think whether or not they want to put their life on the line for such morally ambiguous causes

  • @crabbiboi5528
    @crabbiboi5528 Жыл бұрын

    Anyone in the military knows to stay away from military grade.

  • @ignacio3890

    @ignacio3890

    Жыл бұрын

    In the usa... in spain had the extraordinary aitor black bear knife....

  • @SaltineChips

    @SaltineChips

    Жыл бұрын

    I see "Skilcraft" and I shutter.

  • @erikrungemadsen2081

    @erikrungemadsen2081

    Жыл бұрын

    “Military grade” equals made by the cheapest supplier, without shock absorbers and air conditioning.

  • @erebostd

    @erebostd

    Жыл бұрын

    Not necessarily. The german army knifes were made by victorinox and are quite amazing, especially for the price. Other stuff….not so much 😁. I think this is the case with everything from the military. You have to separate the good from the bad 😉👍

  • @kennethvance8896

    @kennethvance8896

    Жыл бұрын

    Trash military grade m4s and m16s is another example.

  • @Dan.Solo.Chicago
    @Dan.Solo.Chicago4 ай бұрын

    My dad bought one in the late 70’s, because he said it was the closest he could find to the knife he was issued in Vietnam in 1966. I think the knife he was issued was a Camillus M2, a Camillus made version of the Ka-Bar USMC design. There is a slight chance it was a Cattanaugus, but I don’t think it was.

  • @matthewd.1805
    @matthewd.180511 ай бұрын

    The novice "survival-oriented" guy is often misled by the term; "mil-spec". This is especially true for weaponry. (Especially AR-15 hardware). Folks need to understand that our military will typically go with a contract that offers the best quality for the lowest bid. This doesn't necessarily mean that your mil-spec gear is absolute trash, it just means it is intended for the immediate job at hand. Military gear is disposable.

  • @G1NZOU

    @G1NZOU

    2 күн бұрын

    Pretty much, it won't always be the cheapest option, but they prioritise "can you make X number of these and get them in the hands of troops in X amount of time?". Some custom rifle builders keep saying "I could make a better rifle for half the price" and completely miss the point of scale. Similar with camo, you can really dial in custom camo to work perfectly in the woodland next to your hometown, but the military usually needs a camo that will perform "good enough" over the widest range of terrain they're likely to be fighting in.

  • @matthewd.1805

    @matthewd.1805

    2 күн бұрын

    @@G1NZOU with most "builders" utilizing factory assembled uppers, they clearly arent building great rifles at budget prices... like savvy shopper/builders are, who are selecting each individual part for a good price... basing their build upon the parts that make an actual great rifle. I always shake my head at builders spending hundreds on upper and lower receivers. A PSA stripped upper and lower, with a quality BCG, FCG, LPK, and barrel... can produce a total beast of a rifle. That weapon wouldn't be "good enough", or "as good"... It would be fucking badass.

  • @justj4cob893
    @justj4cob8932 жыл бұрын

    *A few years back, I won a knife like that and decided to throw it into a tree. The knife broke instantly and I was glad that I won it and not bought it*

  • @gagida1829

    @gagida1829

    2 жыл бұрын

    thats why you make sure to test your knifes before taking them out anywhere.

  • @totallylegalshit7579

    @totallylegalshit7579

    Жыл бұрын

    Dont throw your knives. Throwing knives are made of soft steel so the bend, but the dont sharpen well. Field knives like this one are made of hard, brittle tool steel. They hold a cutting edge longer, but they snap instead of bend. You destroyed a perfectly good fighting knife, and the next time you throw a good knife it will happen again. If a knife survives a tree throwing, chances are its cheap soft steel, or you got lucky.

  • @malicioussigmaape7432

    @malicioussigmaape7432

    Жыл бұрын

    This is more than likely a Vietnam War-era military surplus knife. Don't butcher it. Don't even try and use it. It's a collectible at this point.

  • @gagida1829

    @gagida1829

    Жыл бұрын

    @@malicioussigmaape7432 doubt that dude. Collectabilities of knife are greatly depandant on various factors and I dont think he randomly got his hands on a 'nam knife

  • @malicioussigmaape7432

    @malicioussigmaape7432

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gagida1829 To my knowledge, they never manufactured pilots' survival knives after Vietnam.

  • @joshuadelaughter7968
    @joshuadelaughter79682 жыл бұрын

    "Military grade" really just means "As cheap as possible."

  • @SUNOSidk

    @SUNOSidk

    2 жыл бұрын

    Military grade = "We can make you a knife using this random aluminum can I found in the dumpster out back. It honestly just costs $0.9 to make it but we'll charge $100 because marketing."

  • @amberrr6651

    @amberrr6651

    Жыл бұрын

    oh thanks but i wanna share my curiosity about that word cuz ive been hearing it since i was a kid. doesnt "military grade" means heavy duty, superior, very reliable, etc.? and so now i dont get why peoples are saying military grade is cheap and trash?

  • @joshuadelaughter7968

    @joshuadelaughter7968

    Жыл бұрын

    @@amberrr6651 That's what it's supposed to mean when they use it in marketing, but anyone who's been in the military knows better.

  • @SkyDoggyH20

    @SkyDoggyH20

    Жыл бұрын

    @@amberrr6651 that's what I always thought too

  • @dean1raedle120

    @dean1raedle120

    Жыл бұрын

    @@amberrr6651 but things in the military have to be cheap to be affordable. Its true that we make most things quality(at least in the U.S.), but in the military they are trying to get their stuff to be as cheap as possible so they can manufactute millions of units to arm tons of soldiers

  • @davidschaadt3460
    @davidschaadt3460 Жыл бұрын

    And the worst thing is when a cheap knife breaks and you have a bad injury out in the middle of nowhere.

  • @EnchantedSmellyWolf
    @EnchantedSmellyWolf5 ай бұрын

    Thank you for passing this on.

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    5 ай бұрын

    My pleasure!

  • @zoruatricksta0408
    @zoruatricksta04082 жыл бұрын

    "Know your weapon to know your chances."

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't try to view this as a weapon, more of a tool but your message is wise.

  • @zoruatricksta0408

    @zoruatricksta0408

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FollowTheCompassNorth anything can be a weapon or a tool, it all depends on how you use it.

  • @Codyiguess

    @Codyiguess

    2 жыл бұрын

    Indeed

  • @Zanophane_Gaming

    @Zanophane_Gaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zoruatricksta0408 if you intend to do harm or kill something with anything, it is now a weapon. So yeah your right.

  • @zoruatricksta0408

    @zoruatricksta0408

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Zanophane_Gaming I find seeing how every object in a room can be used in different ways an excellent way to pass the time. Most of the time things can be weapons, but that's just the human nature talking

  • @Logan12345
    @Logan123452 жыл бұрын

    I made my own knife around 5 years ago, still going strong. might do some stuff for the handle, but the blade itself is great

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice!

  • @bfnurgf1

    @bfnurgf1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @wilson yeah making knives can be addicting.

  • @derteater

    @derteater

    2 жыл бұрын

    @wilson it's sort of true almost every one makes a knife in school here but it's not mandatory

  • @bfnurgf1

    @bfnurgf1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@derteater I started making knives a couple of years ago just to see if I could actuality get one finished.

  • @silamaleesri8661

    @silamaleesri8661

    2 жыл бұрын

    I made my own knife aswell out of a file it's a great knife best thing about making your own is the design is up to you and you can make it what you need

  • @joefrayling9263
    @joefrayling92635 ай бұрын

    That knife still has a full tang. Full tang just means the tang extends all the way through the handle. The other knife you showed has a full tang as well like you said but its whats called a scale or slab construction - because the handle material is made up of 2 handle scales or slabs and the tang in the middle.

  • @mengkhang1037
    @mengkhang1037 Жыл бұрын

    Being deployed in the early 2000s I had a kbar I thought was the coolest thing since all my brothers and sister in arms before me had one. And in tradition I also had one too. Used it a few times for cutting and opening things never for combat. But the day came when I needed it for something utility related. A wedge between a metal gate. It worked but at the cost of the knife. Broke in the same spot. I picked up what was left in disappointing and never bought one again.

  • @homeygfunkoffacherryfruitl4971
    @homeygfunkoffacherryfruitl4971 Жыл бұрын

    One of the first things I learned in the army was if you can get away with buying your own, do it.

  • @michelguevara151

    @michelguevara151

    Жыл бұрын

    there is a surplus shop in london called silvermans. longterm squadies soon learn to replace essential kit with silvermans stock, right down to popsticks and boots, army kit is poo.

  • @li_henney430

    @li_henney430

    Жыл бұрын

    @Why do you try? look a troll that gets on the internet and tries to get negative reactions from people they know nothing about. Get a life.

  • @karvast5726

    @karvast5726

    Жыл бұрын

    Military grade is more of a warning than it is a statement of good craftsmanship

  • @MrWasian
    @MrWasian2 жыл бұрын

    "Why military gear isn't always good" Anyone that's been in: trust me, we know pal

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Right! I don't understand how there are people defending military gear 😂

  • @_sleepyaisha_

    @_sleepyaisha_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FollowTheCompassNorth one of my friends said military stuff is quantity over quality. Haha

  • @outdoorscholar6016

    @outdoorscholar6016

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FollowTheCompassNorth they’re another example of “the less they know, the more they think they know”

  • @edrozenrozen9600

    @edrozenrozen9600

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FollowTheCompassNorth armchair commandos. 🙄 A dime a dozen.

  • @gabrielkelly2631

    @gabrielkelly2631

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FollowTheCompassNorth cuz sometimes they get a lucky batch and assume all military gear is like that. Anyone who's actually been in knows half the time it's broken or on the verge of breaking. Unless your lucky and get issued experimental shit that's halfway decent

  • @brennanvilcheck9469
    @brennanvilcheck94693 ай бұрын

    I got this knive from a professor who had it and was selling it along with old tools and such. Was rust/water damaged but cleaned it off and hand sharpened on whetstones. I mainly use it as a letter opener.

  • @supersizesenpai
    @supersizesenpai Жыл бұрын

    We learned this in culinary school. This is why you don't buy those shitting infomercial knifes for your kitchen even when they claim "it can cut through anything". Yeah, I'm sure it can till that handle falls apart. Everyone is gangsta till that handle breaks and the blade is still stuck in that dry ass turkey.😂

  • @tehpurplepills

    @tehpurplepills

    Жыл бұрын

    Kiwi brand Thai knives have always been my go to. And under $10 each!

  • @batu5180

    @batu5180

    Жыл бұрын

    man I worked in a kitchen owned by a cheapass boss. When I heard a loud clang and saw the cook's shocked expression I immediately asked him what happens and he shows me the handle of his ex-knife. Turns out he tried to cut a fishbone but got his knife cut instead and flies over his head

  • @tehpurplepills

    @tehpurplepills

    Жыл бұрын

    @@batu5180 what? A FISH bone?

  • @batu5180

    @batu5180

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tehpurplepills yeah, like the main bone of a fish, he wants to separate the head from the body. It's not even a big fish, just 50cm long fish which he caught when fishing the day before

  • @willofthewinds3222

    @willofthewinds3222

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, anything can be able to theoretically cut anything, since its a matter of having a sharp enough edge. The problem is retention of that edge, with many of those shit infomercial ones don't do.

  • @thomaseaton6142
    @thomaseaton61422 жыл бұрын

    As a knife maker, watching that knife bend that much that easily made me feel a way I don't like

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, it is a very uncomfortable thing to see a supposedly ready to use knife to.

  • @RyTrapp0

    @RyTrapp0

    Жыл бұрын

    As a knife maker, I'd think watching him use a knife in that way in the first place would make you cringe lol

  • @michaelsarkisian1047
    @michaelsarkisian1047Күн бұрын

    I spent 15 years as aircrew, not only will that knife break at the tang, the steel is so soft it will not hold an edge. I replaced mine with a Cold Steel Master Hunter. My last 5 years was as a SERE Instructor, these were issued to the students for the survival portion and we averaged 2 broken knives a class.

  • @kathleenwisialowski4558
    @kathleenwisialowski455811 ай бұрын

    Thank you for showing us these deficiencies in this knife.

  • @williammerkel1410
    @williammerkel1410 Жыл бұрын

    That's why on Forged in Fire they put these things through brutal strength tests.

  • @enriquecabrera2137

    @enriquecabrera2137

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd hardly call "the bare basic requirements" a brutal test.

  • @theredcinder7437

    @theredcinder7437

    Жыл бұрын

    @@enriquecabrera2137 id say banging blades on wood and flexing them to almost 90 degrees is pretty extreme, most blades are going to incur damage with that. You are completely correct that a good blade shouldnt break in half but even many decent weapons are going to chip and warp from those tests.

  • @enriquecabrera2137

    @enriquecabrera2137

    Жыл бұрын

    @@theredcinder7437 yeah. Those aren't "extreme tests" those are retarded tests. It's like saying that the special forces need to get shot with a 12 gauge on the shoulder and walk away calmly in order to pass the last test. That's not extreme, that's retardedness.

  • @thelouster5815

    @thelouster5815

    10 ай бұрын

    @@enriquecabrera2137 Basic requirements does not include cutting into wooden logs. Forged In Fire tests are meant to determine the strength of the competitor’s blades in the most extreme conditions.

  • @enriquecabrera2137

    @enriquecabrera2137

    10 ай бұрын

    @@thelouster5815 "but it's not MEANT to do that!" Doesn't mean it shouldn't be able to do that. Tool knives are meant to be used as tools not weapons. So yes. Being used as a tool is basic requirements.

  • @pppp6398
    @pppp63982 жыл бұрын

    People don’t understand that “Military grade” is awful. The quality is way too bad. People think “oh it’s military it must be strong.” No

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's right in most cases.

  • @collecter3456

    @collecter3456

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ehh. Some military gear is good quality.

  • @xxxCODExxx1

    @xxxCODExxx1

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn’t say this is the case across the board. Some material takes higher priority than others. Each soldier is carrying 20k worth of gear, so obviously the military is gonna cut corners somewhere.

  • @DoktrDub

    @DoktrDub

    2 жыл бұрын

    Military grade just means that it’s the cheapest that Uncle Sam can get it for, but it’s not to say that a lot of military equipment isn’t going to be good, like an abrams tank, or some of the most durable rifles in the world that were produced and/or mainly used for military purpose, stuff that’s made to handle the abuse for the military is better than stuff just blatantly labelled “military grade”

  • @bloodleader5

    @bloodleader5

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DoktrDub I guess you haven't heard of all the mechanical and reliability issues that the Abrams has, or how many of them have been lost in combat.

  • @kevincamps4817
    @kevincamps48178 ай бұрын

    looks like somethin a first time backyard mechanic slapped together

  • @sonnysantana5454
    @sonnysantana545418 күн бұрын

    funny back in the mid to late 70's this us air force combat survival knife was popular not only because it was very affordable but it proved it self in the hell fires of south east asia ( the nam to those that were their) and the other thing was that for knife street fighting which was a big growing no one cryed or bitched about uncle scammy's govt surplus the quality of the hand tool is important , but to the skillful and knowledgeable anything sharp works

  • @TheDasbull
    @TheDasbull2 жыл бұрын

    I have an original camillus from 1967. I've not used it - was brought back from Vietnam by my uncle. More of a family heirloom. 👍

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very cool, I'm all about heirlooms. Take care of it. If you need to beat something up buy a coldsteel and keep that heirloom safe! :D

  • @Jrez

    @Jrez

    2 жыл бұрын

    I feel things like tools and cars and whatnot are meant to be used, maintained, and should be out there turning heads and being appreciated. I'm not saying go beat up your heirloom, rather don't forget it's a tool as, to me, it shows utmost respect to maintain and use it as a tool, even if it's only the most meaningful times where it gets used. That may or may not be a popular opinion, but historical significance or not, every thing is simply a collection of chemicals.

  • @NoGreedSeeds

    @NoGreedSeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too

  • @josiahralya2160

    @josiahralya2160

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have the same one. Except a 69. It was a pilots survival knife.

  • @Dom.777_

    @Dom.777_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @BEATING NCP93 I just returned the axe saw combo because I couldn’t chop a stick in half, didn’t even leave a dent. I got an ozark trail axe and I’m literally going through wood like it’s nothing.

  • @backatchalol
    @backatchalol2 жыл бұрын

    I always laugh when companies rave something is “military grade” 🤣 veterans and ACDU now how shitty that really is haha

  • @Whin556

    @Whin556

    2 жыл бұрын

    They use the term to get tacticool guys money.

  • @migultantamco

    @migultantamco

    2 жыл бұрын

    Facts bro

  • @CSEabdulalimkhan

    @CSEabdulalimkhan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Military grade stuff LAST. Like really last. I'm a computer geek and asus makes their tuf and msi makes their military style stuff claiming they are tough and strong. Dude, a military laptop might not be a gaming powerhouse, but it can handle operations in a sandstorm.

  • @migultantamco

    @migultantamco

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CSEabdulalimkhan That’s if the weather doesn’t block signal from the antennas.

  • @CSEabdulalimkhan

    @CSEabdulalimkhan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@migultantamco good thing you mentioned network. Can we talk about how garbage the networking chips on everything is? Bro i am using the main ship's wifi from like 600m away, while my phone doesn't get a full signal if I'm 15m away from my home router.

  • @alexanderren1097
    @alexanderren10977 ай бұрын

    I love that they got Michael Dorn to do Battle Beast’s voice

  • @user-do1fq8oy9c
    @user-do1fq8oy9c5 күн бұрын

    Military "Bolt" knife? Had one since 1986. Still have it. Its actually an Ontario 499 Airforce pilot survival knife. The design has been inservice 50 or 70 years. If you use your knife like you have a brain, there is zero worries.

  • @timothyallbee1176
    @timothyallbee1176 Жыл бұрын

    Relatively a good knife when used properly, I have had mine for over 30 years and it’s still in great condition (26 years military service)

  • @charles597

    @charles597

    Жыл бұрын

    I don’t think this is a real ka bar

  • @redseethus2872

    @redseethus2872

    10 ай бұрын

    I dont believe this knife was ever made by kabar

  • @LoreTunderin

    @LoreTunderin

    10 ай бұрын

    This particular knife hasn't been issued for quite some time, and any that were made in the past 20 years are absolute trash. Even when it was issued it was never really meant to be a bushcraft knife, but a tool for escaping a downed aircraft, with features supporting that purpose. The sawback on the spine is meant to cut through aluminum aircraft skin, not wood. The bolt on the pommel is intended for breaking through windows or cockpit canopies, not crushing rock or pounding the the blade into wood like a chisel, etc... That said, it never was a particularly great knife even when it used good materials and was made properly. It's stupidly heavy and unbalanced for what it is, making it slow and unwieldy in combat and limiting the fine control that's desired for carving, while being too short to use that weight and balance point effectively for chopping. Even if it doesn't snap, the tang has sharp angles that create weaknesses, and it's prone to twisting and flexing which causes the leather handle to separate and loosen, further reducing control and letting moisture reach the tang to corrode it and weaken it. It could maybe pry decently with that extra weight and thickness, but the flawed tang makes doing so a coin flip that you may damage the knife. The style became popular so the companies contracted to produce it continued to make them for the civilian market. Unfortunately, since they're not being made for the military, they aren't held to the standards set by those contracts, so now they're made with subpar materials and heat treatments to be sold at milsurp stores marketing to LARPers, airsoft players, and history buffs who want a wall hanger they'll never actually use.

  • @beatcat1265

    @beatcat1265

    8 ай бұрын

    I have one from 1984 do you think it's worth any money? I paid $60 at a knife/gun show. Id never seen one before but I thought it was cool.

  • @G1NZOU

    @G1NZOU

    2 күн бұрын

    @@charles597 It's not supposed to be a Ka-Bar, it's an ASEK (Aircrew Survival Egress Knife), it was designed to cut through aluminium aircraft skin. Gerber make the LMF II to the updated specifications but with an insulated handle for being able to cut through electrical cables without shocking yourself, there's a story of one being used in Iraq during a firefight, where a SFC used it to cut 220V power cords to disable lights that were illuminating the group's position.

  • @memezilla3336
    @memezilla33362 жыл бұрын

    Me, who watches forged in fire: “i have known this for years” Edit: OmGggGgG iM fAmOuS

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good!

  • @namenotneeded5654

    @namenotneeded5654

    2 жыл бұрын

    😆 It will cut! We know everything!

  • @Seasniffer69

    @Seasniffer69

    2 жыл бұрын

    Forged in fire is badass

  • @Will-dn9dq

    @Will-dn9dq

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lmao your a master In knife building from watching 1 season 🤣 (Light hearted poking)

  • @maxmanchik

    @maxmanchik

    2 жыл бұрын

    I see, you accept your weapon is purpose!

  • @Abominatrix650
    @Abominatrix6509 ай бұрын

    Concise, informative, calming. This video is like ASMR to me

  • @Rooks994
    @Rooks994Ай бұрын

    Here’s the thing the knife isn’t designed for heavy work it’s designed to split small logs and then strap it to a stick with some rope and get you out of a seat

  • @elhazthorn918
    @elhazthorn9182 жыл бұрын

    I was convinced you were going to work the "You call that a knife...?" quote in somewhere.

  • @robertjohnson8537

    @robertjohnson8537

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought I was the only 1 thinking that , mate😂

  • @Adamu98
    @Adamu98 Жыл бұрын

    Good heat treatment is important to. Full tang is one thing, but the molecular structure of the steel is very important as well. Good steel with good heat treating makes really good tools like knives.

  • @BigDaddySwingingMeat
    @BigDaddySwingingMeat7 ай бұрын

    Ontario recently went out of business so it's time to buy up all these cheaply made pilot survival knives.

  • @chillios2222
    @chillios22227 ай бұрын

    These were popular in the Army , always sold at the Px lol

  • @slimkillac
    @slimkillac2 жыл бұрын

    Damn man I’ve got 3, 1 is an OKC my dad carried in Vietnam, 2nd is Japanese made and the last an OKC I bought at Walmart, I’ve put so much time into sharpening,bluing, and the leather…. You done broke my heart with this video

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    I hope you read this. These are fine knives if you don't abuse the hell out of them like I do. I'm stress testing and not using it properly. Take care of you heirlooms and they'll be around forever.

  • @jessebond4221

    @jessebond4221

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had the tang of one snap in my hands separating joints on a blacktail deer ... Thats not even abuse... Ive honestly broken 4-5 through general use ... Mora knives are worse tho ive never had a mora that didnt break out of a dozen or so

  • @moosespeak6140

    @moosespeak6140

    2 жыл бұрын

    He doesn't care about your feelings, he cares about your life

  • @BillySAw951

    @BillySAw951

    2 жыл бұрын

    I felt it while sharpening the knife the steel isn’t the best

  • @RockHudrock

    @RockHudrock

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ontario Knife Co makes good knives 🔪 There are also Gerber LMFs, that are truly great.

  • @psychoskwurl
    @psychoskwurl Жыл бұрын

    Youd love to hear that over in finland, the most popular work knife is called a puuko. It has been made largely the same for hundreds of years and are ALWAYS rat tail tang. Very durable and they tend to beat them to shit. One thing though. You should never apply sideways stress on a knife especially not at a focused point like when you fold it around a corner.

  • @brucehillbillybarthalow3786

    @brucehillbillybarthalow3786

    Жыл бұрын

    I've used this knife to dig arrows out of a pine tree behind my archery target. You are so right,this guy would probably use his knife for a screwdriver too

  • @dustinhaynes2617

    @dustinhaynes2617

    Жыл бұрын

    Always get the right tool for the job.

  • @terry_the_terrible

    @terry_the_terrible

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly! Why is he using the knife incorrectly? It's like not buying a car because it can't cross a muddy river

  • @schuyler1015

    @schuyler1015

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@liam Anderson it's abusing the tool

  • @reefread1234

    @reefread1234

    Жыл бұрын

    Moraknives are the modernized version sweet sweedish knives much recommended and affordable

  • @Chainsaw2373
    @Chainsaw237315 күн бұрын

    I was issued an M-7 bayonet and a K Bar which wasn’t too bad for an all purpose knife but all of us who were from Texas bought the large Case Bowie knife and it was extremely tough and good for fighting and camp chores. It was very large and heavy though.

  • @MikeycatOutdoors
    @MikeycatOutdoors Жыл бұрын

    They stay sharp and they throw well.

  • @Rakkasan-vr8xt
    @Rakkasan-vr8xt Жыл бұрын

    I believe these were initially included in aircrew survival gear, usually on the flight suit or vest. I’m pretty sure they were meant as a temporary tool to get you out of a bad situation. Bushcraft has come so far, there’s really not many pieces of kit that haven’t been completely revamped.

  • @felixfeliciano7011

    @felixfeliciano7011

    Жыл бұрын

    That is literally what they are used for. We are meant to survive for hours or days, not weeks or months. We used them to cut slivers of wood for tinder, cut up a squirrel, rabbit or similar small animal you could catch with a snare, or dig small holes with them.

  • @christoffsimons7569

    @christoffsimons7569

    Жыл бұрын

    They’re still on most people’s vest, though some have Spiderco folding knives instead

  • @theeminimeathug7253

    @theeminimeathug7253

    Жыл бұрын

    I can tell you we currently still have this knife I go out every day knowing this knife is garbage and I'm better off using my multi tool

  • @nomadmarauder-dw9re

    @nomadmarauder-dw9re

    Жыл бұрын

    The original purpose was to enable a crewman to bust out of a downed aircraft. Particularly helicopters. And that's it.

  • @texasalalmoful
    @texasalalmoful2 жыл бұрын

    See that knife on every “tacticool” ad.

  • @webtal
    @webtal Жыл бұрын

    thanks for showing this 👍

  • @maxwellmortimermontoure7274
    @maxwellmortimermontoure7274 Жыл бұрын

    Love that knife because it’s charming, not because it’s useful.

  • @allstarwoo4
    @allstarwoo42 жыл бұрын

    While I can’t speak for this knife specifically, the Kabar has a similar problem. Depending on who you ask it was very poorly designed and/or not intended to be utility tool. I believe it was designed for combat because the amount of problem it has as utility knife are shocking.

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    I also think the kabar is weak but a lot of military cosplayers have a problem with that opinion. This was designed for survival and is still currently packed in many ejection seat MDSs.

  • @ingannoceanstryder973

    @ingannoceanstryder973

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s why the kukri is the superior knife

  • @ingannoceanstryder973

    @ingannoceanstryder973

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bbaker7467 the kukri is better at chopping and has a sharper edge since it is sharpened every time it’s out since it’s a tradition to do so.

  • @jansonharris2937

    @jansonharris2937

    2 жыл бұрын

    New ka-bar does have problems. My marine DAD'S ka-bar he brought back from Vietnam can be driven through most modern knives with a hammer. Saw him do it a couple times.

  • @allstarwoo4

    @allstarwoo4

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jansonharris2937 the problem with the kabar isn’t the steel. Although we’re spoiled by really good steels now. It’s more the design and construction. 1095cro-van is tough but sharpenable. But it’s thin and the rat tail isn’t very tough.

  • @eisenglitch_kv8263
    @eisenglitch_kv8263 Жыл бұрын

    a knife is something that should never give you up but this one is gonna let you down

  • @BeetleBuns

    @BeetleBuns

    Жыл бұрын

    how the fuck did I just get rickrolled on a knife video

  • @Ouija_Dude

    @Ouija_Dude

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@BeetleBunssame tf

  • @leopom78

    @leopom78

    10 ай бұрын

    Never gonna turn around and desert you!

  • @arandomkobold8403

    @arandomkobold8403

    10 ай бұрын

    Never gonna make you cry, never gonna say goodbye!

  • @SuperNormalMan

    @SuperNormalMan

    10 ай бұрын

    And this knife told a lie and hurt you...

  • @toddgrove5639
    @toddgrove5639 Жыл бұрын

    Is this better than a toothpick or a rock? YES

  • @attackhelicopter9882
    @attackhelicopter98824 ай бұрын

    Using a combat knife for combat purposes ❎ Using it for bush crafting ✅

  • @grahamsteamer3419
    @grahamsteamer3419 Жыл бұрын

    Used one for years. First issued in AF SERE school. Never broke, nor bent. Still using it for camp/woodsmanship/bushcrafty chores . Works like a champ.

  • @GruntBurger

    @GruntBurger

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably because you know what a knife is and what it's purpose is. It's a survival knife, not a pry bar or hatchet.

  • @petervitkov361

    @petervitkov361

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GruntBurger That's a fair point about the philosophy of use, like...obviously, if you took a Gerber Mark 2 or a Fairbairn-Sykes dagger and you tried chopping wood or prying with those, they would break. But this is a knife commonly issued to pilots, its philosophy of use, by textbook, is as a pry bar (for the pilot to cut their way out of a vehicle) and as a bushcraft knife (if the pilot escapes/ejects and land somewhere in the wilderness where they just might need to hunker down for a while, they should be able to moderately chop wood, baton, etc. - for building a fire, making tent pegs, that sort of thing. Yes, I know how divided people are on batoning, but it would, more often than not, be impractical for pilots to carry hatchets). It'd be one thing if FTCN was showing something one would never do with a knife like this, something way outside of its POU, but here's the thing...it's actually quite likely that one may do something like that. As for grahamsteamer3419's comment, his was probably made from a better steel, but still...there are some design traits that are to be avoided in a serious survival knife, like the rat-tail tang or the awful serrations that are more to look cool than to do anything with. That's the thing about sawback knives - they generally don't work. The sawteeth essentially function like a pre-cracked place for the blade to break, they're too short, too straight, nothing like you'd see on a worthwhile saw. Not to mention, survival knives are often made with high-carbon steels, and that's very bad for a saw. A saw is usually made from a flexy, stainless steel. I'm not saying there aren't quality sawblack blades out there, like the Marto Explorer or the Gerber Gator, but very often, knives and any kind of equipment, honestly, when one tries to make them a "multifunctional" tool, they end up not fulfilling either function to any satisfactory degree. I'm not sponsored by Ka-Bar, I don't even have this knife yet myself, but the Ka-Bar BK10 Becker Crewman is a perfect example of an improved version of the pilot knife concept. Full tang, you can pry and stab with it, no sawteeth, the pommel is much more comfortable to use, and while all pilots must wear gloves as part of their personal protective equipment, so friction and blistering of the hands isn't a problem, the Crewman's handle is smooth and ergonomic, "locking" the user's hand in, preventing override and being comfortable to use even without gloves. It's not that...overbuilt, for a lack of a better term. Even the Gerber LMF 2 is better designed than the pilot knife in the video, and that one doesn't have a full tang, either.

  • @GruntBurger

    @GruntBurger

    Жыл бұрын

    @@petervitkov361 I can agree to an extent. Yes, there are better hard use knives, but if you understand it's limitations then almost anything (within reason) can be a very effective survival knife. Big blocky prybar knives have their tradeoffs as well, it's just about which compromises you're willing to make and working within those limitations, but also knowing the proper techniques. But you make a good point, a pilots survival knife will almost certainly be abused and used for all kinds of things outside of basic cutting tasks, which is why they moved to different models. However, I don't think it makes it a bad woods knife/bushcraft knife if you know what you're doing and you are aware of it's limitations.

  • @humanboywarrior

    @humanboywarrior

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you know the brand and name of the knife that you are talking about.

  • @davnadz

    @davnadz

    7 ай бұрын

    bet you're really good at sharpening, since the pot-metal won't keep an edge

  • @americandude3825
    @americandude3825 Жыл бұрын

    Schrade makes a mean bush knife that’s sharp as a sharks tooth. Bought one for my dad too.

  • @Plutopongovideos
    @Plutopongovideos3 ай бұрын

    That tang is equivalent to folded tin foil

  • @JollySaintNick
    @JollySaintNick6 ай бұрын

    They're fun knives to swing around. I always treat them as a backup to a backup to another backup in my bag.

  • @johanneskoskela384
    @johanneskoskela3842 жыл бұрын

    I would recommend traditional Finnish "Puukko". Or an "Sissi Puukko" for your basic survival knife. Sissi is the Finnish word for guerilla, and SissiPuukko can handle rough stuff too, like cutting firewood.

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree with this comment.

  • @emmettraymond8058

    @emmettraymond8058

    2 жыл бұрын

    I endorse the agreement with this message.

  • @oddthing1312

    @oddthing1312

    2 жыл бұрын

    I appraise the endorsement of the agreement of this message

  • @lycan6432

    @lycan6432

    2 жыл бұрын

    Please don't tell me it's pronounced 'sissy' I cannot tell my friends I bought a sissy knife no matter how good it is.

  • @johanneskoskela384

    @johanneskoskela384

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lycan6432 Almost, it's siSSi, with an long S. You also emphasize the i at the end. Like saying "sis" and spanish "si" together. Also say it with drill sergeant attitude. Or you can use "Finnish querilla knife" too if it's more convenient.

  • @DB-yj3qc
    @DB-yj3qc2 жыл бұрын

    The "pilot" survival knife is / was low cost short term tool. It only needs to last for few days as there is teams (PJ's) locate and recover crew. I've got one back in early 80s it worked good for cleaning game, fish and sharpened easy softer steel than most. It will rust. The tang isn't that great for batten. Like a low cost Mora knife... use until needs replaced low cost it only cost less than $20 back in 80s. But not the choices available like now.

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly!

  • @AlexKall

    @AlexKall

    2 жыл бұрын

    Kind of odd to skimp out on a survival knife though.

  • @DoktrDub

    @DoktrDub

    2 жыл бұрын

    Funny how it was cost pennies more to just make the tang a little thicker

  • @keegans5695

    @keegans5695

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think it's fair to say people incorrectly equate survival knives with bushcraft knives. The latter is the kind you expect to be abusing for a long time without failure, used for high stress tasks like batoning. A good survival knife is gonna be the smallest, lightest tool that can get as many jobs done as possible for a brief amount of time, and then be replaced once the survival situation has been escaped, and durability should be expected to suffer. This knife isn't expected to be used for the kind of work that will stress the tang like shown. It's meant for rope and cloth cutting, preparing small game taken with a survival rifle, and hand to hand combat in the worst case scenario. It doesn't make sense to spend a lot of money creating a super durable knife when it's not likely to ever actually need to be used. The problem isn't the design or construction of the knife, it's the misunderstanding of the people who but them and expect them to be something they're not.

  • @AlexKall

    @AlexKall

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@keegans5695 Well, no I don't equate a survival knife with a bushcraft knife but I do agree with you to a point. A survival knife is not made for specifically heavy betoning work but on the other hand it should be durable enough to keep you alive for perhaps a week or more, which in my opinion is far more important than a camper out with his bush knife, you need something that you can trust to keep you alive when you might be stranded behind enemy lines. I'd say this is not that. Certainly would put more trust in a Fällkniven F1 or even a cheap Mora for 5 bucks.

  • @Gewalt1984
    @Gewalt19846 ай бұрын

    I forgot who originally said it all I remember is it was a death quote in Modern Warfare 2 that went something along the lines of “Your equipment is always made by the cheapest supplier.”

  • @blacklitewolf4645
    @blacklitewolf46453 ай бұрын

    Any knife will break if you put amount of pressure on it. Even thick steel can break

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    3 ай бұрын

    I'm not strong enough to bend my nice knives yet I can snap this one with bare hands. They are not equal.

  • @tballstaedt7807
    @tballstaedt78072 жыл бұрын

    I still love that knife. Every kid had one of those knives. Just know it's weaknesses. They used to cost between 10 and 20 bucks back in the 80s. I still think it was and is a great value and I never saw one fail like this. But let's be real, it was never intended to be anything more than a short term temporary multi tool.

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    All true. I still keep one myself.

  • @LunaPal1

    @LunaPal1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FollowTheCompassNorth in Russian army we have AK bayonet knives. They are: extremely solid, impossible to sharpen, fragile (you can brake it by dropping on the ground) and they get blunt faster than the cheapest chinese copies of them

  • @jamesshepard4743

    @jamesshepard4743

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had one in the 80’s and loved that it too , but at that age , did not need to trust it with my life.

  • @Sina-rw3bl

    @Sina-rw3bl

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LunaPal1 how is it fragile and solid at the same time? What 🤣

  • @LunaPal1

    @LunaPal1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Sina-rw3bl diamond is both fragile and solid as well

  • @Armeanu91
    @Armeanu912 жыл бұрын

    "Stop buying this knife" Me: Ok. Scrolls away.

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @aj1218
    @aj12185 ай бұрын

    Former jumpmaster here. We only used those knives for plaques for going away gifts to our jumpmaster. If i ever saw my guys use this in a jump i would politely tell them to get a new knife of theh couls borrow a second one from the supply room.

  • @TrailHaunter
    @TrailHaunter6 ай бұрын

    That's why I have my grandfather's hunting knife from the '50s 👍🏻

  • @barnazadori9227
    @barnazadori92272 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video! I find it useful in general as well, since I don't know much about knives and didn't even know that I should be looking for knives with blades that you can see throughout the handle as well so you can be sure it's the same width.

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful! It's great when viewers can adapt the lessons to apply to themselves. I have to spoon feed some of these guys.... ;)

  • @shinobi1kenobi75
    @shinobi1kenobi75 Жыл бұрын

    I gave my son this very knife. I used it for fishing and have cleaned two huge snapping turtles with it, batoning through the under shells with it. It always worked, but I have only used it as a knife, I never tried to destroy it.

  • @Maimkillburn69

    @Maimkillburn69

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel like it’s made by multiple manufacturers I have my grandpas nam one and I got my own I’ve used a good bit and worked well the tang def feels solid

  • @tearsintherain6311

    @tearsintherain6311

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah now do the thing where you stab wood and then take it out

  • @user-zn3jl3xs4r
    @user-zn3jl3xs4r6 ай бұрын

    Thanks, I’ll buy more now!

  • @whitehorse7516
    @whitehorse751610 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much

  • @DeadFTP
    @DeadFTP Жыл бұрын

    As Dom once said in Gears of War 1- "Military equipment always works." Ofc he was sarcastic about it lol

  • @eltipobigotudo2162

    @eltipobigotudo2162

    6 ай бұрын

    W game ref bro

  • @cysnoid
    @cysnoid2 жыл бұрын

    "And this knife, is gonna let you down. " And then will make you run around since you'll get probably hurt because it broke, And desert the knife. And then it'll make you cry, Then you'll say goodbye to the knife. The company that made the knife told a lie, And hurted you.

  • @jacksonlol1671

    @jacksonlol1671

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did I just get reverse Rick rolled?

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    oh boy....

  • @vtfan115

    @vtfan115

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is the most creative Rick-Roll I have ever seen. Bravo 👏👏👏

  • @JeanMarceaux

    @JeanMarceaux

    2 жыл бұрын

    You know the rules, and so do I. Say goodbye 🔫👺

  • @BeetleBuns

    @BeetleBuns

    2 жыл бұрын

    take my like and never return.

  • @Mostrandomgamertag
    @Mostrandomgamertag7 ай бұрын

    I thought he said stop don’t talk to me 💀💀

  • @coreymerrill3257
    @coreymerrill32576 ай бұрын

    One of those survival knives fell out of my pocket while doing downhill biking at 32 mph and it shattered .the blade separated from tang and the just handle exploded...while in the sheath . The old budK "pig sticker " has a rat tail tang , but it is incredibly robust for what it is. The handle is very strong and supports the tang well. I have chopped down trees with it. Split wood with it. Cleaned game with it. prepped food with it. Used it as a pry bar on a stuck camp window when i locked the keys inside and padlocked the door...( Oops) and used it for many other adventures..i still have it and have owned it for 20 years now. I got it " knowing" it would fail me In a few months .

  • @amd65ak47
    @amd65ak472 жыл бұрын

    The knife might be junk but the sheath is pretty well built. If they would have put as much time and expense into the knife as they did the sheath it would have been a butter knife

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's true I keep the sheaths!

  • @alanbrownjohn4854

    @alanbrownjohn4854

    2 жыл бұрын

    😂 lol you must have meant a "better knife"

  • @georgehill99

    @georgehill99

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alanbrownjohn4854 ultimately a butter knife

  • @jimgardner5129

    @jimgardner5129

    2 жыл бұрын

    Butter knife. Classic. That deserves a Thumbs Up. :)

  • @paulovinanti9187
    @paulovinanti9187 Жыл бұрын

    I used a knife like that for 18yrs when I was in the Army. Never failed me, pried open ammo boxes, cut branches and commo wire. Best five bucks I ever spent.

  • @FollowTheCompassNorth

    @FollowTheCompassNorth

    Жыл бұрын

    Well I've only been in 16 years and I've snapped half a dozen but supply keeps issuing them to me.

  • @c15a

    @c15a

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FollowTheCompassNorth That’s probably because you’re not supposed to try and break them. I don’t think many people get their knife stuck in 3 inches of solid wood and then try to get it out by bending it to the side

  • @SolDizZo

    @SolDizZo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@c15a not all knives are made equal, not even if they're manufactured by the same factory with the same materials and the same QC.

  • @humanboywarrior

    @humanboywarrior

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't know why people complain about 5$ knifes you get what you pay for

  • @Moistpotatoman

    @Moistpotatoman

    Жыл бұрын

    my dad bought me one years ago works fine

  • @Heyimhere732
    @Heyimhere7326 ай бұрын

    I love point number 2

  • @ElessarEstel
    @ElessarEstel Жыл бұрын

    "any bushcrafting knife worth it's weight is going to have a full tang." Unless it's a morakniv. Lol

  • @SCPKing1835
    @SCPKing18352 жыл бұрын

    "military grade" means "good enough and cheap"

  • @DBT1007

    @DBT1007

    Жыл бұрын

    except for cutting edge technologies. like in computer and robotic fields. military grade of these stuff are the most updated version of that field. about tools and stuff, yeah military grade just mean like that. cheap

  • @SCPKing1835

    @SCPKing1835

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DBT1007 yeah, anything that can be easily replaced is usually cheap and mass produced.

  • @chris-il4qu

    @chris-il4qu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DBT1007 except the military uses mostly outdated computers and electronics in most of all its equipment and its servicing equipment. In comparison to modern civilian accessible tech the military gear is (outside of maybe special forces?) 10+ years out of date. Hell ive worked on jets still in service that use cathode ray tubes for the displays.

  • @AsAMonkeyInAPinata
    @AsAMonkeyInAPinata Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I trust mine with my life, cuz my onions and tomatoes are out to get me.

  • @karvast5726

    @karvast5726

    Жыл бұрын

    Watch out for those amazon deliveries you better slay them before they get you

  • @realUlfricStormcloak
    @realUlfricStormcloak3 ай бұрын

    Looking like Sonic after all the rings are knocked out of him at the end.😂

  • @Wifgargfhaurh
    @Wifgargfhaurh11 ай бұрын

    KA-BARs on the other hand are well crafted military grade knives. Highly recommend

  • @kikook222
    @kikook2222 жыл бұрын

    My dad had this knife when I was a kid, it was issued to him in basic training when he joined the military. I remember the blade had insane wiggle and I was always so sure it would break if you used it.