You will LOVE third year!!! Once you get through the first 2 years, it all gets SO much better. Congratulations!!!

@catwesage

3 жыл бұрын

I have honored most of my rotations. I still hated third year.

I honestly don't blame any med student feeling a little frickin' frustrated. Just hang in there. Even though I am only an engineer, I have some idea how much stress you go through. Just don't give up. I hope that none of you guys consider suicide as a way out of your hurts and frustrations. I know my words are no comfort.

@shivanishastri4285

5 жыл бұрын

No your words are comforting. Not a med student yet though.

@samuelsmithmed214

3 жыл бұрын

it's not that bad bro

Definitely not looking forward to this, but I'm determined to get through it to reach my goals. Thanks for the heads up! :)

@AndreaTooleyMD

9 жыл бұрын

aDashofMo You can do it!

@aDashofMonique

9 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I'm glad that they make the first two years extremely difficult instead of spreading it out. This way you can find out earlier if you cannot handle it. I know that would be my biggest fear entering med school. It's one thing if you have to drop out 1st year, but if it was spread out and 3rd year was too much for you and you had to dropout it'd be a huge waste.

@saltedbrownies

10 жыл бұрын

I agree. I feel that handle this pressure is essential to what's ahead. It separates the wheat from the chaff. However, it's not cut and dry either. You can develop the strength and the callous, if that makes sense. You need to be able to handle this pressure. It's like an unwritten right of passage, unbearable as it is.

@grubbymanz3928

9 жыл бұрын

Michelle Telfo how does the academic pressure compare with the professional pressure though? Is it relevant? I work with extreme mental illness and can handle panic attacks and psychotic episodes but I really suck at handling the pressure of exams. I do fine, but often make silly mistakes and get way more anxious than when dealing with high pressure real world scenarios. It's different to me. Don't you think academics and "real" pressure are different? I'm starting med school in 2015 and am curious.

@themanwelch

9 жыл бұрын

grubbymanz I can tell you that you are right in your assumptions. As a third year medical student, I have seen most of my class that was in the top 10% in the first two years become the bottom 50 percent in the clinical years . why? because the real world pressure from the clinical side is completely different .If you try to spit most of the knowledge you learned in the first 2 yrs at your attending physician, they will tell you most of it is not necessary and you can just look it up.I have seen a classmate who had the highest board score on step 1 in the history of the school get thrown out because he said something in appropriate in front of a patient on rotation. I I truly believe medical school is just one big fraternity/sorority with a whole bunch of legal academic hazing going on. lol

@grubbymanz3928

9 жыл бұрын

yeah, i'm not surprised, a real medical scenario vs a little case vignette on a test has about a million different factors that make it another thing entirely, mostly, a real human consciousness in front of you in real pain. It takes someone who can switch to adapt to situations, is trustworthy enough to glean good information from reticent patients, and can improvise. Nothing about the exams I'm taking now (MS1) have anything to do with these skills.

I really needed to see this today. I've looked up to you for YEARS, and now I'm an M1 at the University of Louisville School of Medicine. One month in, and I'm already so overwhelmed!

glad i stumbled into your videos! thank you for your honesty.

I'm an MS1 and am currently studying for my renal/pulm exam tomorrow, and I am so frustrated that I've almost given up more times than I would like to admit. Thank you for this, because I realize now that other med students are having the exact same thoughts and that is encouraging, weirdly enough.

D.O. schools incorporate pt. interactions starting out in yrs. 1 & 2 as well as the 3rd & 4th yrs. Physician shadowing as a pre-med student helped me tremendously before I made the decision to pursue medicine to help me truly grasp the day-to-day of what it's actually like in a physicians life.. Great video! Pre-med students don't really have the opportunity to gain insight into the life of a medical student. I'm applying this year for D.O. school, even though I've spoken briefly with some of the students at the schools I've visited, I still feel that my perspective of medical school is still cloudy. I guess I won't know until I get there! Like you Andrea there are no physicians in my family, I'll be the first! It's exciting and scary, I really have no idea what to expect since everyone's medical school experiences vary! Thanks for the video!

spot on! I am in my first year now and I want to throw all my textbooks into the street after I set them on fire. finals week now, i know its only two weeks of finals, and once its over its over. but the 'now' sucks. yepp.

@feyruzabdi4063

5 жыл бұрын

halla at me mike

Thanks for your honesty and you game me some insight!

You really touched my heart with this video ! I kinda needed to hear something like that to be able to put up with med school. Thanks :) !

this is soooo on point!! Thanks for sharing!!

I am at the end of my second year in the German curriculum. I work in ER-Ophthalmology and it really keeps me motivated for my studies to help people in the clinic. Thx for sharing your experience.

Yeah I'm for sure now that I won't go to medical school.. Thanks for the heads up!! Now time to look for a different career:)

Great video. Thanks for the insight.

I interviewed hundreds of senior med students for OB/GYN residency positions. We pretty much ignored the basic science grades - what we looked for was Honors in the clinical clerkships, especially in OB and Surgery, and recommendation letters. You didn't HAVE to have Honors, but most applicants had at least a handful of Honors grades.

Hi, Andrea! I am a medical student, from Portugal (in Europe), who just discovered your channel and is now watching your videos hoping to find advice, inspiration... Thank you for this - you sure made me feel more relieved and not alone... I am struggling just like you described. There are times when I question everything (myself included) and I just start to think that this is not what I want. It really sucks. Sometimes I hate this so much that I just feel like giving up on Medical School in particular and Sciences in general. The amount of work, study and sacrifice are huge and can often cloud our vision. I can relate a lot to you - interacting with patients and helping them are what makes Medicine for me, too. Congratulations - you're now a doctor, you made it! I wish you the best. I will continue following you here! =) Once again, thank you.

@andreiacastanheiradasilva8287

3 жыл бұрын

@zeinab Thank you 🥺 In 4 weeks I will be 🤩

Lol this video cracked me up. I love your honesty and thanks for the inspiration.

Thank you for your honest video!

I just wanted to stop and say thank you for taking the time to say the comments that you did. I am in my first exam block second year and literally just finished saying all the things you mentioned, such as asking myself "Why am I doing this to myself? Why am I throwing my personal life away to feel mediocre (referring the the amount of material versus retention over time)?" You are right. Medical school sucks during the first two years (especially at traditional curriculum medical schools). I am hoping that once I submit the USMLE Step 1 I can regain that passion.

This was very insightful, thanks! And I know the school I attend (UNC Chapel Hill) does a pass/fail as your "score" for nearly all four years of Med School.

Thanks! I needed this :)

haha, great video :-) I loved first year, because I was so excited and enthusiastic about becoming a Doctor. And second year came and I hated it, it's such a long process and like you said ramming all this information into your brain! I got to a point where I just did not think I could possibly remember everything. Now I am just about to finish second year and start third next year which will mostly be prac work so super excited again and can't wait to interact with patients again. Good luck!

Curriculum reform. Definitely something to think about.I totally agree that patient contact should be encompassed into the first 2 years of med school, because sometimes I feel down while studying these pre med sciences. But once I walk into the clinic during the days that I shadow, I see exactly how what I'm learning is being applied, and that feeling totally refocuses me on why I'm taking the classes that I'm taking :D Thank you for making this video

Right on, sister

Preach it sister.

I am so happy that you did this video you have helped me so much thank you

I totally agree grades are the main reason why I am not interested in science and medicine like I used to do how can I overcome that and be interested again?

Thank you for being real.

Thank you.

Hi Dr. Tooley! Latecomer to your vlog but I'm enjoying the videos! Re: med school curriculum: Did your school use a pass/fail grading system in years 1 and 2? I'm wondering if that alleviates some of the anxiety med students face. I also think med schools are now trying to introduce more clinical time in the pre-clinical years to help students make the connection between the textbooks to the patient at the bedside.

omg i'm in second year and i feel every word yo 've said actually you help me like so much thanks

If its more overwhelming than undergrad, just study harder than you did in undergrad. There are struggles everywhere-in my experience after washing out after applying to med school for 2 years, facing student loan pressures, and not finding jobs, I moved from city to city trying to learn more skills to make myself hirable. After 4 years since graduating in 2009, I regret not having a social life in undergrad because of my relentless effort to keep my grades up.

Yeah, my temperament is not suited to medicine. I thought it would since I was always willing to learn something new but nope. "Study, eat, study, eat, maybe sleep, study, study" that is not for me. Every doctor goes through it and I am not fit for it.

@sugan6018

7 жыл бұрын

same..It's really selfish of me (but so many people want to be doctors) but I couldn't sacrifice my whole life studying.

How do you encourage yourself that you won't fail? Because if we're in reality, there is a big chance, for someone applying to medical school, to fail. That's life. And for me, that gives me so much anxiety because I'd feel like I wasted much of my life, and then let's say I do get in, well there's that chance of failing the step tests. And that is nerve racking. There will always be failure anywhere, but when it comes to medical school it's a failure you literally cannot afford, so I was wondering how you cope with that stress or any tips with failure. Thank you!

Can you make a vlog about topics covered in med school and the general format of classes? Like lecture lengths, lab lengths, if and when you have midterms etc. Basically a layout of what the first two years are

@AndreaTooleyMD

10 жыл бұрын

This differs between medical schools. Even the curriculum at my school (IU) is completely changing!

@brittanibungart5936

9 жыл бұрын

Andrea Tooley Not anymore...

We only have one huge scary exam a year at the end of the year which is out of 350 in 1st 2ed & 3ed years and out of more than 1000 point in 5th & 6th years it's sucks

I believe most med schools have a grading system. The reason why grades matter is because it affects your class rank. If you plan to pursue a competitive specialty, you want to be as strong of a candidate as possible (highest class rank, best board scores, extracurricular/research...). MS1 and MS2 are very tough years. Clerkship years are considerably better, but then you enter internship... It does get better though.

Grades actually don't necessarily mean much in med school unless you fail. The Step 1 is what really matters. Grades are the #1 strongest correlate with the Step 1, but correlation =/= causation. I suppose the only time grades themselves would contribute significantly to a residency app is if you were to obtain AOA through them, but other than that pre-clinical grades are paltry compared to Step 1 and clinical grades/evaluations.

Hi, I'm a first year medical student going into my second semester. At the end of my first year I have to take subject boards in addition to class finals. Do you have any tips on how to study for the subject boards?

What drove you or drives you personally to go on?

this makes me so scared about med school :(

@MariosPOS

Жыл бұрын

Ayee I'm now finishing my 2nd year, it's cute and nostalgic looking back at this comment

I'm in med school in Germany, and our system is quite different. But it sucks just as much. So thanks for the video, it really motivated me!:)

@ramialtaki5567

8 жыл бұрын

look im planing on going study med in germany, can u just tell me whats ur thoughts about it and is it really that hard and miserable?

@pippilangstrumpf1838

8 жыл бұрын

+Rami Altaki its very, very theoretic! and of course a huge amount of information to get into your brain, which is the same everywhere i guess ;)

inspired by you soooo much

I feel exactly the same.

i needed to hear this today...frst year sucks. i hate it and i hate my school. and im constantly wondering why i signed up for this

@AndreaTooleyMD

7 жыл бұрын

You can do it! First year is so rough, but it gets better!

1st and 2nd year grades don't matter at all.... Only step 1 grade matters in 1st and second year.

I don't think medical is hard. You don't have to think that much just memorize. My mom is a neurosurgeon and she's a total space kadett

I decided to go to medical school recently. I have almost completed my BSEE and have just started to turn towards medicine. I am not sure if I can go through it when I hear people talking about studying so much. I just want to know if people felt this way too before joining and is everybody already used to studying like that?

Does it require school to work at the Hospital?

Is it completely time consuming

you said you stopped classes to study all day to get good grades... isn't that worse? how did you make up for the classes?

I don't think my medical school has the same type of grading system that she is going through. For us, it's pass/fail. And I STILL think it sucks and I'm miserable. It's just a difficult career to get into. Plain and simple. It's hard no matter how you cut it.

@jenniferhorn7754

9 жыл бұрын

Michael Silva Yeah, it really SUCKS but I was hoping it was the school bc I was thinking about transferring and if its not better in the US or at osteopathic schools, I may not do that. What do people think???

ahhh... i'm second year in pre med. i realy tired, i wasting my time with basic and review any deases.. and sometime i think i don't wanna be docter anymore.

@ummmummm563

10 жыл бұрын

You can't spell.

@huey1153

7 жыл бұрын

I pray to god that you don't even get to hold the door open at a hospital, let alone operate surgery...

Nice video, but third year is no joke either.

I left medical school for while I'll come back this year Really it's suck

I know people who have lost some of their hair from balding from the stress of getting IN to med school. This women went through so much and still looks amazing. Andrea's IQ must be off the charts. Wow I could never

Please tell me ..Which is more defficult Med school or pharmacy and thanx alot

@realpassionlife

9 жыл бұрын

My premed was pharmacy.. I'm in 1st year med now.. And med school is definitely way way harder! It was like my premed meant nothing. Hahaha. *nervous laugh :))) lol. Although, my premed comes in very handy in subjects like biochemistry, physiology... Etc. in med school there's a ton of things to take in in a very limited time. It's actually okay but the volume of everything is incredibly overwhelming that you have no choice but to study all the time well in my case.. You need to have very very good study habits and self discipline and you can't cram. You just always have to be studying and sometimes it's just too much that I wanna throw up! The coverage of a short quiz is like a semester in college. There's just so much material-- it's crazy, sometimes I think I'm going crazy! Lol. But still keeping my eye on the goal. :) Though in the end, it's not whether it's hard or not, it's whether if it's really what you want-- if you want something that bad, you can do anything, you will try to do it, and failing will not be an option. :)

Grades matter for rank but they are secondary to boards & your rotation grades. Every single program director you talk to will tell you this. Nonetheless, the things you learn in medical school are fascinating but anyone in med school would be lying if they said that they feel miserable from time to time.

Hi Andrea, I am in third year med school in Paris. I think the best way to get an idee of how is med school like is to talk about it with someone who is into it actually. Very pleasant chanel, I have so much questions to ask you haha Good luck ;)

One word ADERALL

pls pls tell me .. is med school about understanding or memorizing... I mean shoul we remeber info or understand them

@hoaxygen

10 жыл бұрын

You should always understand before you memorize since understanding the topic provides you with the base structure to adhere all the facts to so you can remember them long-term. Like a Christmas tree! You first build the tree and then you decorate with memorization. It's not always possible to do this but it should be your top priority. I didn't get this until later on and it did make things a lot more difficult than they should've been. This applies to any career you're pursuing. (Sometimes you may have to memorize as you go along understanding the subject. It's tricky, but it does work out in the end.)

@naghamchan7904

9 жыл бұрын

Oh thank u that was useful and more than enough ^_^

I like your honesty .study hard, no one likes dumb ,unsure doctors with no heart.

What school is she at??? I really hear different stories depending on the school you are at and I had a very similar experience to her!

@aronaranda6168

8 жыл бұрын

+Jennifer Horn She went to Indiana University for medical school. :)

Do you have time to have fun like party or go for vacation or go out with friends often

@erickrobles6365

8 жыл бұрын

looks like someone is afraid to give up that aspect In life 😉

@numnum8357

8 жыл бұрын

Hahahah u can have fun from time to time only if u are ready to cram for days after that

Why didn't you choose dentistry?

@AndreaTooleyMD

9 жыл бұрын

acash93 Because I wanted to do ophthalmology. Dentistry doesn't interest me at all :-)

Maybe I'm a little slow on the uptake here, but how can you skip class and stay home to study? Don't you need to go to class to know what materials to study? If I'm missing something here, I apologize in advance.

@oliviajoans

9 жыл бұрын

Some classes are optional... lecture notes maybe be downloaded online. I think I didn't go to class for the bulk of my med school years as I came to realise some lecturers didn't really do the teaching thing so well. I stayed at home and bummed or studied. Bed side teaching and clinicals were compulsory though

@derek4346

9 жыл бұрын

You're missing something....

@CitizenofDystopia

9 жыл бұрын

6672rock Because most places tape their classes and you can just watch them at 2x the speed.

@ianliette7801

7 жыл бұрын

Olivia-Joan Iiyambo so r u done with medschool could u give me some tips on studying and what I should do please I'm in my 4th year of pre med and I'm getting scared please help

how can someone dislike ur vids

Our Indian MedEd included Attitude based curriculum and wanted us to know " What does it mean to be a doctor " and you guys will be shocked that our Prof just asked an essay about it and submit , no interaction , no value add 🙄

Hi Andrea ..i want to buy a Accland,s video series of anatomy ..please guide a source like website or other ..i am waiting for your response .. :)

@AndreaTooleyMD

10 жыл бұрын

I've never heard of that video series- sorry!

@adnanqadir4651

10 жыл бұрын

ok...have you know about any other anatomy dissection video series ..? and Thank you so..much for you reply :)

A lot of people in my class are on adderall lol.

What if I didn't have a life before med school I guess I'll be ok lol

I'm sorry for the unrelated topic, and I'll accept help from anyone, but why is Organic Chemistry considered so difficult? Is that a huge over exaggeration, or is it really as bad as everyone claims it is? Great videos, by the way.

@AndreaTooleyMD

9 жыл бұрын

Jackson Wells It's just unlike anything you've ever learned before. It's not like general chemistry at all, and the concepts are very abstract. You can't connect it to real life in a lot of cases, so it's hard to comprehend. But once you get the hang of it, it gets easier!

@Jackson-ng5ui

9 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the response!

hi i'm a med student .early part of 2nd year. want to ask you some questions but wanna know if you on here before i say anything

@AndreaTooleyMD

9 жыл бұрын

pkay dennis What's up?

@pkaydennis

9 жыл бұрын

i'm now seeing this

I still think 1st and 2nd year are an extremely antiquated way of teaching students. For 2 years, you're spending way too much time on low-yield bureaucratic school objectives instead of just focusing on the step itself. I think that's why people get disheartened. Unfortunately we have to live with it.

@DaMan478

9 жыл бұрын

Yes, but many top medical schools are now shifting towards just one year of classroom instruction.

How hard is it to get in? because I am about to start my first year in pre med.

@sherwaynemorrison1301

10 жыл бұрын

thanks

@hanjoolee9205

10 жыл бұрын

experience271 That really depends on the person. It was harder for me to get in. Once I got in, it was a lot easier and less stressful. Work is hard, but having the secure future gave me comfort and drove all the anxiety away. They probably say "hardest part is getting in" because it is true for a lot of people.

@youarethebest0

10 жыл бұрын

did u really just ask that question..... bc i can't believe u did! lol

@ramialtaki5567

8 жыл бұрын

+experience271 bruh is it really that hard? lmfao ur changing my mind

@ramialtaki5567

8 жыл бұрын

***** damn this is more depressing I think. I really love to be a doctor like my dad, but ppls comments and urs too are depressing and discouraging. Im not that clever guy that gets all A s and that shit. And tbh I shit at chemistry. So this is more depressing. I'm just confused... Whatever, thanks for replying, i appreciate it and hope u become a successful doc

You are adorable.

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Third year of med school is even worse than the 2nd is some ways. Medical school sucks all the way to the end. That said, pick your specialty wisely otherwise your entire life will suck.

@ramialtaki5567

8 жыл бұрын

fuck this is so discouraging, are u serious bruh!?

@entourage8555

7 жыл бұрын

Bart Fryszczyn now cry me a river

Great post! Plus, you're cute.

For some reason I thought she wasn't - you know- smart. Stereotype got to me. smh logging moment of growth.

How are you so adorbs giril! gorgeous! :)

HAHAHAHAHAHA

IS because she is blond lol

@sikubokum5960

10 жыл бұрын

shes blond but in 2 years shes going to make more money than your entire family. Lol Dumbass

Is this for real? I thought you were joking but then I went to your website and found out you were really this annoying. Good luck with the match interviews, you might do better not talking.

@AndreaTooleyMD

10 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment jsamaustin . I matched into ophthalmology residency at the Mayo Clinic.

@MAXIMILIAN390

8 жыл бұрын

+Andrea Tooley clapped out of existence

pls pls tell me .. is med school about understanding or memorizing... I mean shoul we remeber info or understand them

@themanwelch

9 жыл бұрын

Nagham Chan You need both. Memorizing to get the information in your head fast enough and understanding that will enable your to answer second and third- order questions about them

@rrozinak

8 жыл бұрын

+Nagham Chan Both. You have to memorize the terms and understand what they mean. Most of the time the understanding is easy though. It's not like understanding quantum physics. But you can't be good at biochemistry without understanding what's going on. In anatomy and embryology you need to understand how structures in human body develop and make a 4D map in your mind. But on the other hand microbiology is almost all about memorizing facts (after you understand basic principles).