Holy crap who cares?

Superman vs the Elite is the ideal way to wash off the bad mouthtaste that Snyder's Superman leaves

@oscilao5872

19 күн бұрын

@@elin111 i think the movie looks a bit ugly imo. i know i’m the minority here on that, but it is a pretty good story nonetheless

@kingtiger5040

9 күн бұрын

That movie/comic is the writer visibly coping about anti-heroes outselling this Superman run.

Snydercultists are so Delusional that they think Snyder's Superman reinvented superman and made him more interesting.

I honestly think that man of steel is a terrible Superman movie that doesn't understand the basics of who Superman is and what he stands for.

The bus and tornado scene highlight flaws in this approach to superman. The bus scene turns him into an idiot, who would push a bus in front of witnesses. Not only that but the implication of a hero complex, doing it so he can be seen as a hero. The tornado scene, why didnt Pa kent trust Clark to rescue the dog? Would the father of a firfighter run into a burning building if his firefighter son was standing next to him because he didn't want to put his son in danger? This movie only has one redeeming scene, when Clark flies for the first time, and we get a glimpse of the real superman

@oscilao5872

18 күн бұрын

@@simonfarrell5675 i wouldnt say clark pushing the bus makes him dumb or having a hero complex, i think it was the simplest decision. I just think that the response to him getting caught shouldn’t be getting told NOT to do it, but instead being told NOT to do it the easy way

I don't think Snyder has ever been in an actual tornado there is so much fear and things going on no one would notice Clark if he ran in grabbed his father and run away without being noticed

@oscilao5872

20 күн бұрын

@@SuperAz1981 EXACTLY

Personally i don’t hate man of steel but also I don’t think all that good either. Dare I say that the movie is kinda boring and forgettable, like I get baffled when someone says it’s one of the top 10 superhero movies bc I genuinely don’t see how. I mean the movie has great cinematography, action, and the very best thing that came out of this movie was definitely the first flight scene, every thing else like the actual story itself is kinda mediocre, but overall it’s just ok 👌.

@oscilao5872

20 күн бұрын

@@2kx62 this is fair, I think i’m a little more negative in this video but it has some great parts to it!

I feel like this whole 36 minute video could've been shaved down to like less than 10, it wasn't very snappy, pace was really slow, the talking points felt unscripted with a lot of dead air. A video should go in beats, like a dance or a song, all to retain attention and interest, this one lost me after 8 minutes.

@oscilao5872

21 күн бұрын

thank you for the criticism actually, i'll try to make it a little simpler in the future although i will say the original recording was an hour long and i really tried to cut it down without it being super jump cut focused. i think that next time i'll be a little more focused on the important parts instead of cramming like 3 videos into one (although it was very scripted btw i am just bad at following the scripts)

Man of Steel was a fantastic movie. I loved the message of it, the tone of it, the themes in it. It felt like Superman for the 21st century, which was needed. I grew up with the Chris Reeve movies which I love to death and rewatch every chance I get but Man of Steel reignited my passion for Superman again. I will forever love that movie. It's in my top 5 comic book movies of all time.

@oscilao5872

5 күн бұрын

@@tinokokota_joy-ir7sy i’m glad you have such strong feelings for it. that’s all that matters

while the movie is meh, i only liked the action bits bc its the only superman action stuff we had got in a long time. they went full anime with it which was ok with me but its only like ten minutes of action.

@oscilao5872

21 күн бұрын

@@krono5el that is true, honestly it’s some of the only decent superman action ever put to film imo. but i will say that it doesn’t feel like there is any character to the action. i reference this in the video but it feels like superman isn’t doing what he normally would. there are no actual stakes until the end and even then superman acts out of character

For all it's flaws, I do stand by this single opinion. Of all the superman films we've ever gotten, none have depicted superman's 'alien-ness' as well as man of steel. That movie gave us the most fully realised krypton we've ever seen on the big screen. When the planet died in the opening minutes of the film, It truly felt like the loss of a world, an entire rich civilisation. Everything that has to do with krypton and kryptonians as an alien entity/civilisation is executed wonderfully. But because zach snider doesn't understand superman's humanity. Which is his most important aspect. And because he doesn't understand Clark Kent, who IS what makes superman superman. We were left with a broken symbol. And a film that just ended in the worst way, killing the character within his own debut

@oscilao5872

5 күн бұрын

@@Sunnysunshower I think that the biggest problem is that Zack focused so much on the alien side. we don’t see a lot of it in other media because it isn’t important. krypton only exists to justify some of the supernatural elements of his stories, his humanity is what makes the story actually interesting. I hated Superman for a long time mainly because of this movie failing to understand that nobody actually cares about krypton, we see enough of it in the Donner films to help viewers understand that it existed and that is all anyone needs. also i think krypton looked ugly in Man of Steel so I didn’t even get that enjoyment out of it

Man of steel is a good henry cavil movie but probably not the best Superman movie

@oscilao5872

21 күн бұрын

hmm. I haven't seen a lot of Henry Cavil movies. I assume he has a little bit more range than is shown in this movie, but I am going to trust you on this and say that you have a very good way of phrasing it. thank you

@ADOGNAMEDCUPCAKE

21 күн бұрын

@@oscilao5872 thanks good video

Man of Steel is bad for two reasons Superman has no personality and Jonathan Kent died by a tornado. This film is a terrible way to introduce Superman's character. It felt like Manchester Black made a Superman film. Superman: The Movie is superior to this film in every way possible. Christopher Reeve will always be the greatest Superman in the movies. He truly embodied the role of Superman. He was charismatic, charming, and goodhearted that's how Superman is supposed to be.

@oscilao5872

17 күн бұрын

@@callmejacob3234 i think we’ve had some other incredible supermen, most of them do seem to be held back in some way, even christopher. maybe i’ll make that video soon

@callmejacob3234

17 күн бұрын

@@oscilao5872 Tyler Hoechlin and Tom Welling are also really good. Superman: The Animated Series and My Adventures With Superman are incredible.

@dukeheavens9990

17 күн бұрын

​@@callmejacob3234 my adventures with superman is gay

@callmejacob3234

17 күн бұрын

@@dukeheavens9990 We're all entitled to our own opinions. I don't agree but go off.

@BingeGamer69

14 күн бұрын

​@@dukeheavens9990 everyone can have there opinion. With that said no it is not gay.

Build on, not "build off of"

@oscilao5872

19 күн бұрын

@@christheghostwriter thank you

you have very pretty eyes 😍(great video osci)

@oscilao5872

21 күн бұрын

@@raghavpant6846 thank you @raghavpant6846 i hope you watched all the way through and didn’t tank my viewer retention

Snydercult is so delusional, it’s genuinely unbelievable to me

@oscilao5872

20 күн бұрын

@@20minutehotdog i can see it a little bit, it’s just annoying… like it’s a comic book guy who flies around in a onesie with a blanket around his neck y’know

@ii-mp1sp

6 күн бұрын

Go to Flashback FM or FIGHTING CINEMA and read the comments under the scenes from the films, everyone loves them. And I remember well how everyone praised the ego League and now they criticize it, it's hypocritical. Because of you, I was left without my DC.

Twitter**

@oscilao5872

20 күн бұрын

@@madeline1714 did I call it something else?

@madeline1714

20 күн бұрын

@@oscilao5872 yes?

@oscilao5872

20 күн бұрын

@@madeline1714 what did i say if not X, the everything app? I think the name change is dumb i’d never call it anything else

@madeline1714

20 күн бұрын

@@oscilao5872 you think the name change is bad, but you still use it. Why?

@oscilao5872

20 күн бұрын

@@madeline1714 i used it? idk i’m gonna have to ask grok about this, grok can answer ANY question

My biggest problem problem with The scene where Klark kills Zod is that the movie acts like this is shocking like He would never Do this sort off thing, but like no througout the entire movie He acts like a huge asshole and his father brutal, He never ahs a moment where he has a vow to never kill, He doesn't even care about casualties. So yeah this version of superman killing Zod isn't even shocking.

@oscilao5872

13 күн бұрын

yeah! i think it's possible to tell an interesting story where clark grows up more brutal and willing to kill, but this movie not only doesn't seem to be trying that, it also can't try that. this was supposed to be THE superman, you can't have a deconstructive superman without the baseline and Zack wanted both at once

@kingtiger5040

8 күн бұрын

He doesn't act like an a-hole at all though bar the tornado scene.

Was this filmed one year ago? June of 2013 would be 11 years ago, No?….lol Yea I think it missed many marks on the Superman Character, it was real slow, left you kinda confused. However it’s a excellent Cavil film. Henry is certainly, for me at least, the best Superman actor. He has the look, the demeanor, tone of voice. They nailed it picking him for the role. Course leave it to DC to ruin it. They have just tanked their biggest cash cows. Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman……I’m convinced DC just hates money lol.

@oscilao5872

13 күн бұрын

@@Silver_79 yeah i realized after filming, i thought it was 2013 until like halfway through editing and decided that it was close enough lmao

@Silver_79

12 күн бұрын

@@oscilao5872 right lol....I couldn't help myself.

snyder's superman is a boring character, I really hope gunn does him justice next movie

@oscilao5872

21 күн бұрын

@@FlickWith I hope so too! all it takes is someone who wants to make the movie and I think Gunn is that person

@gohanson27

20 күн бұрын

@@oscilao5872 Without name dropping GOTG a MCU Kevin Feige film what other films b y Gunn gives you that notion?

@oscilao5872

20 күн бұрын

@@gohanson27 peacemaker and the suicide squad are great examples that aren’t Guardians of the Galaxy. hell even the scooby doo movies have heart and love in them

@gohanson27

20 күн бұрын

@@oscilao5872 Peacemaker did ok on stream and if you read comics that's not Peacemaker from the comics. So are you expecting Superman from the comics? If so which comic run or novel? Do you know none of the GOTG characters were portrayed correctly from the comics? So again do you expect Superman to be? The Suicide Squad tanked at the box office while other films during the shutdown made bank. It's funny how the only James Gunn films that are talked about are the one that are controlled by Feige. The MCU machine is the reason why GOTG is a success but none of the films crossed over to a billion dollars. Do you expect the Superman film to cross a billion? IMO Gunn and Snyder are one in the same, directors with a certain flaw. DC needs a producer in charge to be successful. A producer who has his eyes and hands on everything to keep the directors in check. Heart isn't going to get you to a billion dollars and a successful universe. Hell Iron Man didn't have heart just a straight forward solid story about the main character who is just like how he is in the comics which lead to comic fans loving it and non comic fans loving it. I hope Gunn does DC justice but again he is just like Snyder.

@oscilao5872

20 күн бұрын

@@gohanson27 you should make your own youtube channel if you’re so easy to counter every statement with something batshit insane, also The Suicide Squad did just fine at the box office, it was just released to streaming simultaneously which split the audience. also characters don’t need to be fully comic accurate if they maintain their core characteristics

Oh please.

@oscilao5872

5 күн бұрын

@@richardabia9735 please what

@richardabia9735

5 күн бұрын

​@@oscilao5872 You are seriously complaining about a Great movie for no reason. A movie several people love, because of the heart and soul that shined in the movie, the depiction of Superman being the hope in dark times, his heroic journey of never giving up and protecting his home. The movie is Amazing, so stop complaining about it.

@oscilao5872

5 күн бұрын

@@richardabia9735 you’re entitled to your thoughts on the movie, but so am i. and i think that it is not that

@richardabia9735

Күн бұрын

@@oscilao5872 Then don't round up "my thoughts of the movie" into just nostalgia. The movie is great and there are actual reasons and if you don't want your video to be considered biased, you acknowledge those reasons.

@oscilao5872

Күн бұрын

@@richardabia9735 i never said YOUR thought on the movie are nostalgia. I said much of the debate is based on nostalgic recollection. even in the video i said that’s fine if it’s just that you liked it as a kid and haven’t really cared much since, but claiming it is ACTUALLY a good Superman movie based purely off of THAT nostalgia, Upon further scrutiny, falls apart pretty fast when you know anything about superman as the actual character (who this movie WAS supposed to show, this was supposed to be THE depiction of Superman in movies)

I think people did miss the point of the tornado scene. You can disagree but the point was, that Clark’s ENTIRE life would change the second the government knew about him. They’d monitor him, probably secretly find ways to take him out, maybe do things to his family….. Johnathan didn’t want any of that for Clark and while yes he shouldn’t have basically sacrificed himself, he did it in hopes that Clark could try to live a normal life. “Can’t we just pretend I’m your son?” “Ooohhh Clark, you ARE my son” he just wanted a normal life for him, he wanted Clark to not be alienated despite being an Alien

@oscilao5872

20 күн бұрын

@@matthewwelles8422 My problem is that this is such a less well thought out and more poorly developed character for Jonathan Kent, John is scared of what will happen if Clarks secret got out because he is a dad, but he also believes that Clark SHOULD use his gifts to help people when possible. Like I said, John would be upset about the bus but not because it happened, instead he would be upset that Clark was seen

@oscilao5872

20 күн бұрын

he works to motivate and help clark understand that there is a way to save people and protect himself, he’s one of the core reasons behind the “there’s always another way” motto that superman lives by

Nice video. These comments are wack tho

@oscilao5872

21 күн бұрын

@@spamserket i’m trying to keep it together so hard lmao

It’s mad ironic when ppl start their Snyder bashing with “conflating subjective opinions with objective blah” and then proceed to do nothing but replay clips of Superman *not acting like Superman* and make no case for why the movie fails on its own terms

@oscilao5872

20 күн бұрын

@@ethanjannes7587 the point is that the movie fails as a Superman movie by the objective standard of knowing what superman is supposed to be like I also didn’t really “replay clips” i mostly just talked about moments that I don’t think work. I honestly should have used more footage I was just scared of copyright

Zack had some good ideas, but we needed to start off with the Superman we're used to, and then he could have gone darker/brooding-er. They wanted a new Dark Knight trilogy after the Batman films ended.People now think it was always intended to kickstart a DCU it's was NOT, originally it was intended to be 3 films in Nolan's Batman' style of realism. Nolan is a producer on it and worked with/suggested Zack on it.

@Auron1Roxas2

7 күн бұрын

No dumbass he didn't. Nothing about it was "dark or broody" you clowns need to come up with something new cause you've been proven wrong already. They didn't want a dark knight trilogy they wanted a superman movie so they made a superman movie. It was never intended to be 3 films, Zack had a whole universe planned out for the next 10 years and even had a way to end it planned out as well. We got the greatest superhero movies ever made thanks to Zack, regardless of the idiots who cried about it.

Yet you're here talking about it....bro PLEASE stop mentioning Snyder and his work when making a DC related content i know it gets you views and interactions but please i don't want that franchise killer in DC anymore specially his cult

@oscilao5872

21 күн бұрын

@@KneedsG I just wanted to talk about the movie man, it is also a great excuse to talk about a good superman comic

@seancollins6572

21 күн бұрын

Take a breath bro its his page. Stop trying to exert control. Weird asf

@KneedsG

21 күн бұрын

@seancollins6572 eat a dlck or something what i did was more like begging rather than controlling

@oscilao5872

21 күн бұрын

@@seancollins6572 it’s fine i can understand the frustration. I am contributing to a problem but I also think that I am also trying to contribute to a solution (sharing good comics with people who may not know about them)

@KneedsG

21 күн бұрын

@oscilao5872 bruh everybody knows about this(topic) it's ALL OVER KZread this isn't the first vid to say MOS was good and brought up good comics....

*superman do good ting because he is innately good not because he Norman bates mommy boy* this is an assumed axiom that u r applying to previous takes on Superman it is not an *objective truth* that applies to older takes on the character

@oscilao5872

20 күн бұрын

@@ethanjannes7587 when did I say anything about mommy boy. Also, he is not innately good, he was just raised to be good by his parents

gg

"mostly directed by Zack Snyder" Snyder didn't even do a third of that franchise

@oscilao5872

19 күн бұрын

@@elin111 he had writing credits on a few of the movies that weren’t his. i meant director as in he was the lead vision of the movies

It’s great. You’re part of a weird cult

@oscilao5872

20 күн бұрын

@@roachofdoom1234 me and my cult brothers believe that you are entitled to like the movie so long as you watch the entirety of my video 👻👻👻

@BaithNa

19 күн бұрын

"You're part of a weird cult" says the literal cultist 😂

I respect you and your opinion but I am also going to disagree with your take😅.

@oscilao5872

16 күн бұрын

@@Jeremyduru14 that’s valid! thank you for watching and hearing me out, that’s all that matters

I LOVED Man of Steel,thought it was a-GREAT-movie too. And Superman is an-ALIEN-pretending to be human. I also enjoy how the Kryptonians are more military like ( more like soldiers ) and they have other planets under their control and not just Krypton.Zor-EL even defeats Zod in hand-to-hand combat.The best Superman film in my opinion-EVER.

@oscilao5872

21 күн бұрын

@@user-be7tc2bd6e Superman isn’t pretending to be human, he was human first, he didn’t know he was an alien until so late into life

@oscilao5872

21 күн бұрын

but i do think your thoughts and opinion are pretty valid here nonetheless

@user-be7tc2bd6e

21 күн бұрын

@@oscilao5872 As Clark Kent he's pretending to be human to fit in human society,other wise he'd tell them he's a Kryptonian.

@user-be7tc2bd6e

21 күн бұрын

@@oscilao5872 Thank you.

@oscilao5872

21 күн бұрын

@@user-be7tc2bd6e Clark Kent is as much Superman as Superman, but Clark is just his way of being a person and living a full life. He doesn't tell people because he doesn't want to always be seen as superman because that's not really who he is, Superman is an exaggerated version of Clarks alien side as much as "Clark Kent" is an exagerated version of Clarks human side

The only part I liked was superman learning to fly other than that It was really boring

@Auron1Roxas2

7 күн бұрын

So you watched it with your head up your own ass.

MOS is better than every DC movie, and almost every Marvel Movie. The only two flicks on MOS level, are Winter Soldier and the original Avengers…. Respectfully, you don’t know what you’re talking about …….. Goodnight!

@SpFlash1523

21 күн бұрын

MoS is definitely *NOT* better than every Marvel or DC movie. It's not better than Watchmen or Green Lantern, and it's not even better than X-Men Origins Wolverine or Iron Man 3.

@oscilao5872

21 күн бұрын

@@therobotafroshow3289 i feel like we’re on a pretty even playing field in terms on knowing what we’re talking about honestly

@therobotafroshow3289

21 күн бұрын

Did you say, Man Of Steel is not better than Green Lantern? We shall never speak again … Good day sir*

@seancollins6572

21 күн бұрын

​@@therobotafroshow3289hey bro. Shhhhh go meditate, do some self reflection and come back. So dramatic. Gaddamn

@therobotafroshow3289

21 күн бұрын

@@seancollins6572 Girl bye!

The problem with KZreadrs is they lie a lot for views. This video is full of lies and incorrect statement about a comic character and film which is too bad. Bro be honest in your videos, do research then post. Lying is wack. Base on your logic all Superman films are bad except Superman Returns? Your logic says so. So either your lying or have to do TONS of research. 23

@oscilao5872

20 күн бұрын

@@gohanson27 am sorry brain so bad and no have do research. can you explain point by point with timestamp to each moment that are lie? me too dumb brrrrrr

@gohanson27

20 күн бұрын

@@oscilao5872 you do your research. For every statement you make about MOS put that same logic to the other films and see how that logic holds up. The dos and donts of the character. I did, and was pretty shocked with the results. That's why I was surprised by the claims in your video. I'm thinking like did you watch other films about Superman?

@Sauxeaholic

20 күн бұрын

@@gohanson27that’s fucking cap and u know it bro, like literally the whole pa Kent death is million times better in the reeves movie cause guess what it shows that even tho u have all these powers and you’re the strongest sometimes u can’t save someone from death and he learns from that this movie tells Kent that yeah be afraid and conceal your powers because it’s bad like gtfo synder isn’t going to let u suck him off

@oscilao5872

20 күн бұрын

@@gohanson27 i would really like for you to tell me which points don’t hold up, also bold of you to assume that this is the only superman film that i don’t like. Maybe I hate all the movies you don’t know

Im pretty sure half of these MoS simpling is just ChatGPT bots at this point

@oscilao5872

21 күн бұрын

@@ChaoticHaze i’m trying to believe that every comment is a real person

@ChaoticHaze

21 күн бұрын

@@oscilao5872 see I view it different. Anyone who says something silly like MoS being better than the dark knight are actual bots, and you should stop talking to them whenever they say it.

@oscilao5872

21 күн бұрын

@@ChaoticHaze idk I think that i'm pretty good at finding bots, but I think that there are also people who genuinely believe that which is fine and valid.i wouldn't be setting much of an example if I just ignored people who I thought were wrong y'know.

Clown, Man of Steel is the best superman movie to date. Zack treated superman as a character with actual character development. Idiots wanted the same boring shit and Zack gave us a masterpiece instead.

@oscilao5872

7 күн бұрын

@@Auron1Roxas2 what character development. he doesn’t do anything for like an hour and a half and then kills someone. they could have had so many super easy hits when it comes to character arcs, have a scene where maybe clark says that like “journalism is a useless job” and Jonathan can be like “it let’s you protect people with knowledge.” or some shit, that way we can have john be not wanting clark to do heroism and risk his identity but still show respect for people who do want to protect people. It would also make the ending scene being one where Clark decides to become a journalist randomly just because his girlfriend works there, make sense. it’s like 2 or 3 lines of dialogue that would add ANY character development to this movie, but it just doesn’t have any of that. the movie goes out of it’s way to not show us characters developing in a realistic, maturely written manner

@StareachValcin

6 күн бұрын

@@Auron1Roxas2 No. Man of Steel is one of the worst Superman movies to date that doesn't understand the basics of who Superman is and what he stands for. There are plenty of animated Superman movies that are far better than Man of Steel. Man of Steel was never a masterpiece.