Why Learning "Frame Data" Is Important! - In Fighting Games

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Let me tell you why learning frame data is very important!
In this video, I will be breaking down what frame data is as well as telling you why it is important! It all does seem intimidating but its truly not.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Video Preview
0:45 Video Intro
1:38 What is Frame Data?
2:05 Start-up Frames
2:53 Active Frames
3:38 Recovery Frames
4:10 Consequences
4:39 Block Advantage
6:07 Hit Advantage
7:43 Frame Trap
8:20 Flawless Block Advantage
9:03 Reading Frame Data
10:52 Video Outro

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  • @MadDoggGames
    @MadDoggGames3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry for no upload for the month. Kinda was dealing with personal stuff. Im back and ready to go!

  • @Mkfan963

    @Mkfan963

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is fine we all been there

  • @user-je2hy8tq2p

    @user-je2hy8tq2p

    3 жыл бұрын

    Welcome back

  • @billy2zenki

    @billy2zenki

    3 жыл бұрын

    stay safe, did you joined any MK11 tournament before/current?

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@billy2zenki Im not a tournament player, I just like to play for fun.

  • @iitzramon5145

    @iitzramon5145

    3 жыл бұрын

    Let's go Just do IT with more MK😂👍

  • @violetkalico
    @violetkalico3 жыл бұрын

    Trying to understand all this at once, almost had a stroke. This is more math than online school has given me.

  • @mattiguess8094
    @mattiguess80943 жыл бұрын

    The intro is like a math video for kids lmao

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    That was the goal! 🥸 😆

  • @1ntoTheAbyss

    @1ntoTheAbyss

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m 8 years old and this was helpful!

  • @huhsnare

    @huhsnare

    11 ай бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @joelgonzalez701
    @joelgonzalez701 Жыл бұрын

    The work this guy puts in his videos literally makes me wanna cry, cus he section's the video so you can skip or rewatch a section if you want, he explains EVERYTHING with detail and in different ways so you can understand perfectly, etc. Like I've never seen any KZread put in that much attention and work on a video. But what makes me wanna cry is that even though he does all that, he still has problem with people not understanding his vids, therefore hi loses views, and therefore he does not get as much views/money as he SO MUCH deserves

  • @abdielradames

    @abdielradames

    11 ай бұрын

    Its a great video but dayum, cry worthy? Bro went deep

  • @phranzayt8616

    @phranzayt8616

    12 күн бұрын

    The glaze is insane but I agree

  • @jacobmcguire9174
    @jacobmcguire91743 жыл бұрын

    This guy is like the soccer coach for 16 year olds showing the team a professional soccer game on tv and pointing out every little thing to learn how to play like the pros. The information is very important, but the mindset of the common idiot playerbase will completely negate anything they could learn from it. Great video dude! Keep up the content

  • @Marcus96s

    @Marcus96s

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually I think that this is the perfect video to watch while also doing it in practice mode ‘frame data’, I honestly understood the whole concept of it by the end of the video. Now I just have to go see which attacks are safe on block and which gives me a advantage and how many frames I have to play with. (I know this is a old comment but I’m commenting for the algorithm to hit people sub boxes lol)

  • @TheNightmareAngelYT
    @TheNightmareAngelYT8 ай бұрын

    I love the intro. And thanks for helping me learning about this frame data stuff. When I was reading it on the tutorials, it just seemed like words on a screen. This makes more sense now. And if this applies to all fighting games, then that's a bonus. Thanks.

  • @miller_koth
    @miller_koth Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for making this video! I've been a fighting game fan ever since I first played Marvel Vs. Capcom 3, and while I've never been a button masher, I've never truly understood the mechanics of what I was doing. Now I finally get it and can use it to my advantage! Thank you!

  • @MiniNinjaPK
    @MiniNinjaPK3 жыл бұрын

    Nice video and excellent points! The way of conveying them is also beautiful.

  • @DEADMANPLAYS
    @DEADMANPLAYS3 жыл бұрын

    I can't fucking say how happy i am to hear your voice man! how you doing ?? I hope you're doing goood take care of yourself buddy

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate this. Thank you. I’m doing fine now, real life stuff are in the way sometimes. Glad to be back

  • @stealthwarrior3617
    @stealthwarrior36173 жыл бұрын

    It has begun, I've been looking forward to this.

  • @DEADMANPLAYS
    @DEADMANPLAYS3 жыл бұрын

    Man I've watched it like 3 times already need more of these advance strategies videos maybe one showing how to juggle the Combo or how to stop button mashing ❤️❤️ much love mate Take care

  • @n1mand

    @n1mand

    3 жыл бұрын

    I need to force myself to stop button mashing and keep calm.xD

  • @AquosFrost

    @AquosFrost

    3 жыл бұрын

    He literally has multiple combo videos already, which you can watch.

  • @tuannguyencanh6096
    @tuannguyencanh60963 жыл бұрын

    Very informative stuff. Easy subscribe man I hope you also do a combo video combo on Kotal Kahn soon as i want to learn him. Your videos taught me Sub Zero and Scorpion well

  • @pooritech
    @pooritech Жыл бұрын

    Thank you man. Your intro I more informative than 99 of the content on the topic. Thank you! Insta sub.

  • @shadowninja1275
    @shadowninja12753 жыл бұрын

    Now I know what Hit advantage and Block Advantage is, Thanks! What a good tutorial video.

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @zymieredempsey842
    @zymieredempsey8423 жыл бұрын

    thank you for being back hope you get to a mill

  • @kololemaba6777
    @kololemaba67773 жыл бұрын

    Most of us know about frame data but just so entertaining to watch the edited (meme?) part of the video

  • @hopelesound
    @hopelesound2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, finally can understand about frame data

  • @Zorxeng1990
    @Zorxeng19902 ай бұрын

    I know Im a bit late here, but what a great video! Thanks for this!

  • @thenightwolf1997
    @thenightwolf19973 жыл бұрын

    Maddogg first off I wanna thanks you for helping me learn my favorite mk11 characters. I'd like to request a shao Kahn step by step guide. Hope you able to get to it. Keep up the good work

  • @MrImasta
    @MrImasta3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video Maddogg!🔥🐐🌟

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed

  • @ayeitsmeangel9875
    @ayeitsmeangel98753 жыл бұрын

    Bro keep doing these they are so entertaining 😎ima subscribe

  • @Running_from_the_Dog
    @Running_from_the_Dog3 жыл бұрын

    very comprehensive. i will now subscribe! learn positives and negatives to earn bigger positives (winning)

  • @joandarc441
    @joandarc4413 жыл бұрын

    Me playing Marvel vs Capcom and jojo bizarre heritage: what's that?

  • @tenaciousstudios03051

    @tenaciousstudios03051

    2 жыл бұрын

    Frame Data is in every freaking fighting gsme, peanut!

  • @FalconDove
    @FalconDove3 жыл бұрын

    super helpful, also aided explaining frames to a few friends

  • @tomacheteful
    @tomacheteful10 ай бұрын

    Best explanation ive heard yet. Very well done. Thank you!

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    10 ай бұрын

    You're very welcome!

  • @thotho2209
    @thotho22093 жыл бұрын

    You make me a good play thank you very much, I really appreciated

  • @zehanjo
    @zehanjo2 күн бұрын

    This is a great video for absolute beginners like me trying to dip their toes into understanding frame data. ❤

  • @enenra5803
    @enenra58032 ай бұрын

    Such a helpful video! also what’s the background music please

  • @633frost
    @633frost3 жыл бұрын

    This is really helpful, thanks!

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @tyroneegure6155
    @tyroneegure61553 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all these vids But please could you add that controller at the top? It helps wit the timing

  • @darkkarter3321
    @darkkarter33213 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the Frame data content men

  • @marcclay9125
    @marcclay912511 ай бұрын

    Awesome video man thank you

  • @mrsleepy3395
    @mrsleepy33953 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos mate

  • @TomTheEGamer575
    @TomTheEGamer5753 жыл бұрын

    Lol great video I was wondering why when I do a certain attack I was not able to do another one which gave the other person time to attack back.

  • @n1mand
    @n1mand3 жыл бұрын

    Nice, it's like the tutorial from MK11 with voice!xD

  • @hugotussin
    @hugotussin3 жыл бұрын

    shoutout to mans, improved my gameplay so much

  • @hazeldown8645
    @hazeldown86452 ай бұрын

    Nice dude thanks for this

  • @JCUBrilliant
    @JCUBrilliant3 жыл бұрын

    0:00 Video Preveiw 0:45 Video Intro 1:38 What is Frame Data? 2:05 Start-up Frames 2:53 Active Frames 3:38 Recovery Frames 4:10 Consequences 4:39 Block Advantage 6:07 Hit Advantage 7:43 Frame Trap 8:20 Flawless Block Advantage 9:03 Reading Frame Data 10:52 Video Outro

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    this helped alot. Thank you

  • @JCUBrilliant

    @JCUBrilliant

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MadDoggGames you are welcome

  • @musahyussif3068
    @musahyussif30682 жыл бұрын

    This is my first time watching but I love this video

  • @Gameup2332
    @Gameup23323 жыл бұрын

    why when i try to do a special at the end of a combo it does not come out or miss when it does come out

  • @romuloprieto2529
    @romuloprieto25292 жыл бұрын

    That intro is so funny xD

  • @justsomeguywithoutamask9602
    @justsomeguywithoutamask96023 жыл бұрын

    Yes!!! i've been waiting for this Now i'm going to watch this video 69420 times

  • @MrImasta

    @MrImasta

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah me too!🤣✌

  • @NameLess-sg5xe
    @NameLess-sg5xe2 жыл бұрын

    whats the background music?

  • @tylerhaddock6641
    @tylerhaddock664111 ай бұрын

    We need an updated one with MK1 content!!🙏

  • @ricemonsta25
    @ricemonsta253 жыл бұрын

    Me still waiting for the full Rambo guide

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not going to lie, it’s been so hard wanting to make step by step. Been doing it for 2 years lol

  • @ricemonsta25

    @ricemonsta25

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MadDoggGames Ik man I’m just joking with ya. Make the content you wanna make😁😁😁

  • @VlPULTRA
    @VlPULTRA Жыл бұрын

    Very helpful Video I never really cared about all these frame data things :)

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @sujeewanarulselvan1316
    @sujeewanarulselvan13162 жыл бұрын

    Bro i have unlocked 6 Brutalities for spawn with character tower and race against time brutal difficulty. But after that i cannot unlock anymore using those two. PLZ help me to unlock other 4

  • @comicslayer9394
    @comicslayer93943 жыл бұрын

    Your back lets Gooo

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lets goo!!!

  • @sittthugyii6514
    @sittthugyii65143 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video.

  • @trulybeastly2636
    @trulybeastly26363 жыл бұрын

    Awesome vid

  • @k1NGMcFather
    @k1NGMcFather2 жыл бұрын

    how did you get that liu kang skin

  • @nicowenis777
    @nicowenis7773 жыл бұрын

    great vid thank you

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    thanks for watching

  • @EcksDeeSlayer11
    @EcksDeeSlayer113 жыл бұрын

    whats the intro song?

  • @ericknavarro2985
    @ericknavarro29853 жыл бұрын

    Nice!

  • @iitzramon5145
    @iitzramon51453 жыл бұрын

    Can you show a tips and tricks combos video with raiden? I‘ve been watching but apparently you haven‘t done any of raiden or have i missed something?

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve already uploaded one for him now

  • @iitzramon5145

    @iitzramon5145

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MadDoggGames a ok,i see thank you

  • @MrKgray12
    @MrKgray122 жыл бұрын

    Really helped thanks

  • @fgcbird
    @fgcbird2 жыл бұрын

    If anyone sees this and understands frame data I would love some clarification. If someone has a jab that is 7 frames of start up, but is plus 9 on hit, why can you not just jab infinitely on hit? If you are +9 and jab has 7 frames start up, if you jab again the hit box should come out again 2 frames before the opponent can block right? So in the corner why can't you just hit jab jab jab jab etc on hit? (this may not be the frame data of a jab and if that is why this doesn't work please let me know. I am very new to this so I want to make sure I understand this fundamentally) edit: looking at the framedata I think maybe that is it? Fast startup moves can't have more hit advantage than their startup otherwise you could just chain them on hit?

  • @TheRealTact

    @TheRealTact

    Жыл бұрын

    Because recovery frames

  • @jacktheBEAR-py8jp
    @jacktheBEAR-py8jp3 жыл бұрын

    Can you make a combo guide for shao khan plz?

  • @psi_Jaidyn
    @psi_Jaidyn3 жыл бұрын

    Me not understanding single thing but enjoying the video

  • @thotho2209
    @thotho22093 жыл бұрын

    I loved the section when you said less brainpower hahaha

  • @VSSgamerX
    @VSSgamerX3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks bro

  • @ImarBenIsrael
    @ImarBenIsrael3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like this video I'm about to watch own important to a casual like me but should also be sent to nrs devs so they know too because their game go against why frame data is important from my point of view

  • @GhettoManAF
    @GhettoManAF3 жыл бұрын

    great video..

  • @mustafaalsaleh6288
    @mustafaalsaleh62883 жыл бұрын

    Yo yo I'm joking always got me off guard man 😂

  • @AJKingOD
    @AJKingOD3 жыл бұрын

    Haven’t watched the video yet, but based on the intro...I agree

  • @tendiboi912

    @tendiboi912

    3 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @sergiu2021
    @sergiu2021 Жыл бұрын

    The text on 4:40 is confusing. Less than -7 is -8, -9 and so forth, greater than -7 is -6, -5, -4 and going up.

  • @venuskratos6311
    @venuskratos63113 жыл бұрын

    Oh my God nice intro haha 😂 😂 😂

  • @-ziiin-
    @-ziiin-2 жыл бұрын

    Jade-Main and I can already tell that she's a slow poke after the explanation at 02:10

  • @alecfriar7060
    @alecfriar70608 ай бұрын

    I’ll just hit triangle 4 times in a row works most of the time lol

  • @iitzramon5145
    @iitzramon51453 жыл бұрын

    haha i love this intro.😂😂👍

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it! 🤣

  • @jeremyhayes6585
    @jeremyhayes65853 жыл бұрын

    Yep you said this involves math. Ight imma head out! 😂😂😂

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    Aha I knew it! You are one of those 👀 jk.

  • @kaungkhant3760
    @kaungkhant37602 жыл бұрын

    You are the best

  • @forkp5363

    @forkp5363

    9 ай бұрын

    thanks

  • @OpuppetS
    @OpuppetS3 жыл бұрын

    i made a combo for kung lao that can completely wipe the opponents health

  • @einstein9063
    @einstein90633 жыл бұрын

    I feel so good, I liked the video before he told me too I'm soooo cool now😎

  • @detlef171
    @detlef1712 жыл бұрын

    Dawg im dyin

  • @savages-on-deck
    @savages-on-deck Жыл бұрын

    Shit didn’t really make sense tbh and none of this is gonna help me do combos so what’s truly the point in any of it

  • @ghostsauce1443
    @ghostsauce144310 ай бұрын

    You caught me right when I was about to leave 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @tempgang6594
    @tempgang65943 жыл бұрын

    Do a mileena kombo video

  • @Hunterslammer
    @Hunterslammer3 жыл бұрын

    Anything on countering? I somehow countered a hit and used a wake up while standing up. Used a bar of defense too and looked like I gained armor. Unsure how I did it but I’ve seen someone do it with frost in a ko op match. Just wondering if anyone knows more. Also did it once while going into a combo, and special cancelled it into an environment interact. All on accident.

  • @Duck-xy3gx

    @Duck-xy3gx

    3 жыл бұрын

    that was a flawless block go watch his video on that topic

  • @koolduck_2498
    @koolduck_24983 жыл бұрын

    Me who already know this : interesting

  • @golden.5013
    @golden.50135 ай бұрын

    actual not bad at explaining why cant u be my math teacher?

  • @kombatant648
    @kombatant6483 жыл бұрын

    so out-framing your opponent is the key?

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ultimately yes. The whole point in fighting games and in real life is to attack and not be getting hurt. And the easiest way to do that is knowing frame data to keep you safe.

  • @donut2111

    @donut2111

    3 жыл бұрын

    No because if your opponent knows you're frame trapping them they can just block everything instead. At which point you might realize that if your opponent is gonna block you can just grab them which they aren't expecting. Except once they do start to expect the grab they'll mash on you or try to punish. Mind games all the way down

  • @batboythecool
    @batboythecool3 жыл бұрын

    Who knew I was doing math the whole time 👀

  • @heretickishyt
    @heretickishyt3 жыл бұрын

    Why can't the jabs be of unversal frame for every character

  • @tenaciousstudios03051

    @tenaciousstudios03051

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because some guys pack more power than others.

  • @mauricerobinson3184
    @mauricerobinson31843 жыл бұрын

    👍🏿

  • @carlmahome1
    @carlmahome13 жыл бұрын

    Smh I just want to play the game 🥺

  • @a.a.2752
    @a.a.27522 жыл бұрын

    i won't lie you lost me towards the end but at least i can now understand the terminology everyone seems to use around the fanbase :')

  • @punyajeetdas2514
    @punyajeetdas25143 ай бұрын

    What if block advantage is 0

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    3 ай бұрын

    Then no one has the advantage. It’s now to who ever has the fastest attack can win

  • @neoconnor4395
    @neoconnor43953 ай бұрын

    I may be incredibly ignorant in suggesting this - but I feel in general, learning frame date is a waste of your time (but yes, I'm still in pursuit of understanding the concept).. Yes, it only helps if you're competing at high levels, but you can still get very far - certainly far enough as a casual, by just learning the game via trial and error. I'm beginning to pressure myself into learning and understanding frame data, and I'm having a rough time because at the end of the day, I probably don't NEED to be spending the amount of time I already spend playing these fighting games, and I've done quite well at MK1 and Tekken 8 without any knowledge of frame data whatsoever. I've landed on the leaderboards and in MK1 in particular I always ride the line between God and Eldergod (the 1st and 2nd best ranks), and I want to get better! So I look to frame data and I'm like yeah, okay, but this is the difference between having something I already know from experience being explained to me in technical terms, and learning these things via experience playing the game for hundreds of hours. Of course, knowing frame data never hurts, but is watching videos like this really going to help the casual player more than actually playing the game? I feel like this is something you could use when playing professionally, but in order for it to be truly useful you'd already have to be invested in the game to nearly unhealthy levels. I know from experience, because here I am trying to learn this stuff, but it also leaves me scratching my head, with the knowledge I will still beat the vast majority of people who watch videos like this, simply from having played the game more. Then games like SF6 come along, almost suggesting people re-learn these concepts and at that point every game makes it's own rules, and is it really practical for casual players to sit down with a pen and paper to learn all this? My guess is no. This knowledge will only be put to use by the top 1% of players. Everyone else would be better off simply playing the game. Maybe I'm just frustrated trying to grasp these concepts, but I could also just watch videos on KZread that SHOW me when to punish certain characters after certain moves, without knowing the numbers for everything. So is frame data today, with what we can learn from actually watching KZread tutorials, still relevant? And it might be! But I'm trying to understand why..

  • @beayns9694
    @beayns96943 жыл бұрын

    I don't get it

  • @hourblood2974
    @hourblood297410 ай бұрын

    300 hours later, am here at this video 🤡

  • @danielalejandromirandasanc8826
    @danielalejandromirandasanc88263 жыл бұрын

    Hi, im a sheeva stomp player👍 nice video

  • @user-zg8mr9rp9o

    @user-zg8mr9rp9o

    3 жыл бұрын

    Eat poop

  • @azo0oz9900
    @azo0oz99002 жыл бұрын

    Finally understood the must important thing in fighting games after years 😭

  • @Mitchcraft.
    @Mitchcraft.3 жыл бұрын

    Omg a 90min advert , wtf is going on with youtube lately, scam ads and now a full bloody movie on religion 🤯 get it fixed youtube

  • @bigzealot
    @bigzealot2 жыл бұрын

    Still cannot believe you have to pay for frame data in tekken 7

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me either. One of the things that put me off when I bought the base game of Tekken 7.

  • @Ok-fq4fd
    @Ok-fq4fd2 жыл бұрын

    I dont learn frame data becaude there's something called lag

  • @stephenjennings555
    @stephenjennings5553 жыл бұрын

    In all honesty, you kinda learn frame data just by playing

  • @MadDoggGames

    @MadDoggGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s the longer road , but yes

  • @tron0150
    @tron01502 жыл бұрын

    So framedata turns fighting games in turn based games that just go quick. Thats kinda lame. At least in some games there are 0 frames options, so it's not that bad.

  • @Makhai808
    @Makhai808 Жыл бұрын

    What is cancel advantage

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