That's how I became a Calvinist be reading my Bible during COVID

@lcollins4313

3 ай бұрын

Me too😂 . I’ve been called a Calvinist because I’ve quoted scriptures, but when you ask them to explain it’s met with more personal derogatory remarks . 🤷🏾‍♀️ The new acceptable slur I guess. …. the one who got away from burning at stake ? However I’ve heard Calvin had Servantes burn at stake for heretical teachings When you research history Cervantes was considered a heretic by the Roman Catholic Church and Pope and the Reformers . Don’t know full details of his execution , it was in Geneva, so he was able to escape the Inquisition entering Switzerland.

@danilom951

3 ай бұрын

Calvinism came from a what if question by the apostle Paul. I disagree with it because that’s not gods heart as it’s written in Ezekiel:18 Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord GOD, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live?

@ronaldhart9457

3 ай бұрын

@@danilom951 than why did God flood the world and kill a billion people and only save eight?

@ronaldhart9457

3 ай бұрын

@@danilom951 God is just and sin deserves payment

@smgale7689

3 ай бұрын

​@@danilom951calvinist doctrine doesn't come from the hypothetical question brought up by paul, but rather by his response to it.

I just don’t like the nickname Calvinist at all. Don’t get me wrong I stand with Reformed theology, but I just call myself a Christian because we have Jesus Christ name , not calvins .

@stevenwalden2313

Ай бұрын

To take it one step further, I hate the term Protestant. As if we're in a perpetual state of protest. However, what an alternative name might look like. I'm not sure but I don't like the term Protestant. May reformed Catholicism?

@completoencristo

Ай бұрын

@@stevenwalden2313 Christian. That’s what the apostles call us.

Really because if you listen to John MacArthur, Voddie Baucham, Steve Lawson all of them tell about their change, they were shown in the Bible and it opened their eyes! It had nothing to do with a book, it was what they read in the Bible!

@robertajaycart3491

3 ай бұрын

No unity in Protestantism

@JoshuaMSOG7

3 ай бұрын

You missed RC sproul who I dearly love and never met him. He too was a Calvinist but maybe a different type of Calvinist but very brilliant.

@robertajaycart3491

3 ай бұрын

@deathknell5167 Where is faith alone in Scripture?

@johntrevett2944

3 ай бұрын

Eph 2:8

I am not a Calvanist because it isn't taught in the Bible.

@arinzedaniel8519

3 ай бұрын

Because you have not really understand the Holy Bible.

@lancerialga7271

3 ай бұрын

Not a calvanist because I do not believe in hard predestination. Hard predesrination kills off free will and makes it all God fault. A man was meant to grape that child. And it was predestined, orchestrated by God as say so by Calvanist. Screw that. Under calvanism, God is NOT good. I am not a an atheist either, those are just idiots parading as geniuses. No. I am still Christian. A very flawed one. But still one. For God if my sheepard.

@briarpatchson3039

3 ай бұрын

I'm NOT sure what John Calvin taught 🤔 But the many great MEN who claim to be Calvinist are HIGHLY BIBLICAL 🕎✡️✝️ JOHN MACARTHUR, AND MANY OTHERS ✝️

@briarpatchson3039

3 ай бұрын

@@arinzedaniel8519 LIKE WHAT🤔

@HunterTheDisciple

2 ай бұрын

apostle paul did ephesians 1:4 ephesians 2:8-10 2nd thes 2:13

When I was in Bible school, I was always told bad things and portrayed to me ugly caricatures of the Reformed Theology particularly Calvinism. They would put forth every argument bad and not-so bad type of arguments, and the misrepresentation is just wild. I've had to do the one thing to really see what's in the scripture, to study the scriptures. I was not introduced properly into the reformed theology, but it was the scriptures that made me Reformed, thankfully it's all of the divine Providence that calls the shot and not of my own 'will-ing'

@onecrispynugget9959

25 күн бұрын

While I was once talking to a Roman Catholic man (who actually seemed solid in his faith) I had at some point in time told him that I was a Calvinist and he asked “Do Calvinists believe in the Holy Trinity?” Satan being the father of lies and confusion has been terribly damaging to many of our Christian brethren in that regard.

Just follow Jesus. No need to label it anything.

@Watergardengirl

3 ай бұрын

Amen. 1 Corinthians tells us to not quarrel over names and divisions. Jesus commands us to love, (John 14-15) and wants us grow IN Him. “It’s not important who does the planting, or who does the watering. What’s important is that God makes the seed grow.” 1 COR 3:7 NLT

@ThecrosseyedTexan

3 ай бұрын

Exactly and here's the deal when people who are Calvinists and people who aren't standing before God we're all going to go wow we got that part of it wrong.

I never read anything from Calvin or any other. I was in an Armenian Church and reading the Bible i had questions about what scripture said vs what was being taught or more importantly what was not being taught or discussed. I kept my mouth shut until another doctrinal issue popped up and the lack of conviction it was dealt with left me questioning why people who say we believe scripture would be shy when they say something is an error is being taught but they value unity over Truth. That lead me to unpack what I believed and ask why I believe it and rethink things. I ran into people like Voddie Baucham, Paul Washer, rc Sproul and others who taught with conviction could articulate their beliefs and defend it from scripture and they were making statements of things I already was convinced of from Scripture but people didn't talk about. I still have not read Calvin and I don't call myself a Calvinist. I believe in a Big Glorious Holy God who answers to no one and does as He pleases and sees fit. He shows mercy on whom He will and compassion on whom He will. He is the Potter I am the clay. I am His property and He may do with me as He pleases without explanation or justification. Just ask Job.

@samuelbrock4064

3 ай бұрын

This is about where I’m at also…I’ve said before, what’s in and why a title (very little) it’s all about the heart. Just make sure we’re a Christian first and leave the rest to God!

@randomname2366

2 ай бұрын

So you had questions and because those men taught convincingly you became a calvanist. Ya, that how people catch it. Most people don't read Shakespeare but you know of many of the stories and use many of the words he made up because others use them.

@jeffreybrannen9465

28 күн бұрын

Armenian is an ethnic group. Arminian is a theological position. Every theological position has weaknesses and curiosities/weaknesses. Each side has to do “exegetical backflips” to some degree. It comes down to this core issue: is God sovereign? Even in salvation? (Check on learning: how do you pray for someone’s salvation-“Lord, please open the eyes of their heart; please take away their heart of stone; please show them their sin and give them grace; change their heart.”) In any case, I thoroughly disagree with Jeff. Never claim association with any group or movement without knowing what the founder taught. That’s beyond foolish. It be the same as saying I’m a Wesleyan and then saying I refuse to read John Wesley. Or I’m voting for Candidate A but I’ve never listened to their speeches.

I know people who are calvanists. They definitely talk more about being calvanist than they do about being a Christian.

@natedolce8796

3 ай бұрын

We call those Calvinists cage-stagers lol

@faithstudentministries5903

3 ай бұрын

@@natedolce8796 I think I've heard Voddie refer to them that way.

@timothyvenable3336

3 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s unfortunate lol

I spent years reading the arguments and explanations of calvinists and I nearly came to the conclusion that it was absolute heresy…until I decided to search the scriptures

@danilom951

3 ай бұрын

Ezekiel 18:23 Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord GOD, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live?

@timwest7467

3 ай бұрын

The scriptures absolutely so not support calvinism it is a gnostic heresy

@morefiction3264

3 ай бұрын

@@timwest7467 Nonsense.

@timwest7467

3 ай бұрын

@@morefiction3264 show me one verse that supports calvinism

@jlwalker2embarq

3 ай бұрын

@@timwest7467 can you provide scripture to support that claim ???

I don't know how anyone can become a calvinist by reading the Bible. To many of their points contradict the Bible.

It's the ever provisional headache Leighton The Tulip 🌷 Hatin Flower

@Scribeintheink

3 ай бұрын

Leighton Flowers hates Tulip flowers

I'm not a Calvinist, because that is a system that then tries to figure out every little detail about how God works out our salvation and gets in to some weird nitty gritty points, as if trying to box God in. I do believe in predestination, because so many verses talk about that, I believe in election, because that theme is throughout both the old and new testament, I believe we are all sinful, and that no one would choose righteousness, because the Bible says so, so we must be born again, because the Bible says so.

@419

3 ай бұрын

Predestination doesn't mean we don't have free will though. It just means God already knows, because he sees all of time at once. I can see you sitting down but it's entirely your choice to sit or stand.

Calvinism doesnt give us a choice, and implies God created certain people only for damnation. Without choice we cannot truly love Jesus.

@vic7337

3 ай бұрын

@@redletters7933 I see where you’re coming from. It’s clear throughout Scripture. Yet, do these words provoke anger or does it influence counsel and help? Rather than saying “get over yourself,” maybe a better approach is to show through God’s Word that God is sovereign over the heart and will in man to come to Christ. Whilst explaining that man comes most freely and most willingly to Christ by the efficacious work of the Spirit. I get it, it’s can be tiring seeing the attacks against this clear doctrines, but what covers a multitude of sin? Love. Just a helpful tip!

@FORGVN

3 ай бұрын

Read those red letters, calm down​@@redletters7933

@ronaldhart9457

3 ай бұрын

Read Romans 3:10-18

@morefiction3264

3 ай бұрын

That's not a scriptural objection

@tygerovi

3 ай бұрын

Think of it this way: God knows the future, He knows which people will deny Him and which people will obey Him. Now rollback this timeframe to the beginning of time. God knows that in the end the ones that will obey God are "the elect ones". Not that God didn't give a chance to others to obey Him, but God knows they will deny Him in the end which disqualifies them from being called "the elect". So yes, we have a choice, but the elect ones were chosen before the creation just because God knows the future and he knows each and everyone's decision.

Brother Durbin is right. I was a calvinist before I even knew what calvinism was. I was a arminian when I was a false convert. When the Lord saved me He started to show me His preeminence above all things through His Word (especially in regards to how He saved me) and though I didn't understand it at the time, I began believing it more and more as time went by all thanks to the Holy Spirit. Later on I heard about calvinism.

There’s a lot better videos of Durbin explaining the inner conflict he had between what he grew up believing under modern American evangelicalism and what he was READING IN THE BIBLE. He points to specific verses he wrestled with in his readings for years that led him to submit to Calvinist doctrines.

Amen

If you believe that Jesus was the messiah (God-man) and being born again and being transformed into the Christ man (new man new nature) through the process of sanctification via the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Your alright with me.

Calvinists appear to largely rely on proof texts to enforce their conclusions, it gets awkward really quick when you ask one to explain Hebrews 6:4-6 (challenging the P in tulip). You may get your doctrine from the Bible, but if certain scriptures appear to contradict what you believe about other scriptures, the problem is you.

@Julie-kl5sp

11 күн бұрын

Very true! Coming at scripture to "prove" what you already have chosen to believe is such a misuse of scripture. I once had a Calvinist pastor come to a passage of scripture that wasn't in line with 5 point Calvinist theology. He said "It sounds like the Bible is teaching _______, but we know that can't be the case because that's not what our doctrine tells us."

I came to all the same conclusions that Calvinists came to before I knew what a Calvinist was 😂😂😂😂😂

Once saved, always saved,, it's a heresy.

Because if he repented of being a Calvinist, he'd have to make a career move.

You became a Calvinist because you were reading the Bible while listening to guys like Paul Washer, John MacArthur, Voddie Baucham, John Piper, and probably reading from their study bibles.

A Calvanist who knows nothing about Calvin. The quality of the teaching matches

They give Calvin too much credit. The Bible teaches predestination and election. Just read it. No need to read anything by Calvin.

I've got 35 different churches within a 5 mile radius of my house.

In Ez 36: 22-32, God gives us the exact prescription for Salvation: first, He gives us a new heart; second, he puts His Holy Spirit in us; third, He will cause us to walk in His statutes and desire obedience; fourth, He will deliver us from our uncleanliness; and finally, we will remember our evil ways and loathe our past inequities and abominations (i.e., repent). It is Ez 36 (among others) that is being referenced in John 6:45.

I’m not a Calvinist because God gave me free will to choose and showed many examples of free will in scripture. You can’t put God in a box with a tidy little label, He’s God. He doesn’t have to conform to Calvinist teachings. Isaiah 66:4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

You follow calvin & I will follow Christ & be à Christian. Amen.

It’s amazing because John Calvin was not at five point Calvinist. He believed, taught, and wrote that salvation was available to every man. Maybe this guy Durban should read some of Calvins stuff.

What’s the 5 points of calvanists? I don’t understand how it differs

I don't understand the predetermined angle. Or maybe considered "Limited Atonement". I pray for understanding and Clarity, as well as, "Unconditional Election".

Weird, that's how I became a Calvinist.

Calvanism isnt biblical

So unbiblical to call yourself after field of man!! Repent! Paul denounced the church at Corinth, and said some say they are of Apollos, Cephas, Paul. He denounced this man centered ideology!!!it is godless.

If you hear Jeff's testimony elsewhere though he will admit that Dr White had a huge influence on his theology when he was new to the faith. No need to read Calvin of you read and listen to one of Calvin's biggest modern voices.

I was born again a Calvinist

I am a follower of Jesus Christ not any religion.

@bjornegan6421

3 ай бұрын

as are saved 'calvinist' in soteriology Christians, same as 'arminian' in soteriology Christians.

Calvinism is biblical full stop.

Spot on. Preach it Jeff!

The Bible is a Catholic book. This is a paradox that many people don't even realize exists. How can you reject the authority of the church that compiled the Bible, but still believe the Bible to be the word of God? The answer is simple: the Bible is not just a book. It is a collection of books, written by different authors over a period of centuries. The Catholic Church compiled the Bible in the fourth century, but many of the books in the Bible were written long before that. The early Christians were a diverse group of people, with a variety of beliefs. The Catholic Church emerged from this diversity, and it is through the Catholic Church that the Bible has been preserved and transmitted for centuries. So, if you believe in the Bible, then you should be grateful to the Catholic Church. Without the Catholic Church, the Bible would not exist as we know it today.

The word Jeff is looking for is “Christian.” The reformers were not the first Christians in history to debate theology and oppose heretics. The whole quote is so anachronistic it’s bananas.

@bjornegan6421

3 ай бұрын

I do not think what Jeff said is wise. But it isn't that a 'calvinist' rather be called that than Christian. It is there are two main sides in soteriology and they have both labeled one another. Instead of saying I am a Christian with an understanding of soteriology that states God is completely sovereign, man is completely helpless, etc., etc., etc., the shorthand is to say 'calvinist'. Same for the opposite and to say 'arminian'.

@soulanchor3041

3 ай бұрын

@@bjornegan6421 This reads like a straw-man argument. Of all my Wesleyan friends, I know of none who would deny the sovereignty of God or depravity of man. The question is simply by what means of grace does God bring the dead to life? Look up Charles Simeon’s conversation with Wesley and you will find that these two camps often use different words to arrive at the similar conclusions. People who identify themselves so heavily by the name of Calvin transgress the clear message of the scriptures (1 Cor. 1:10-17). By emphasizing a false-dichotomy in the body it’s like the immune system attacking itself instead of attacking the sins that run rampant in the body. I thank God for the work of the reformers, but to use the works of these men to over-emphasize divisions in the body to exalt one’s own position is neither scriptural nor safe. To say that Paul and Jesus conformed to teachings penned nearly 1600 years later is wildly outrageous, and again, unscriptural. Semper Reformanda.

Amen 🙏

Is Flowers finally understanding

The main issue with calvinism is if God makes you a born again believer and you have no choice in the matter then there is no reasonable explanation for why all are not saved (or at least the vast majority).

@bjornegan6421

3 ай бұрын

that does not make sense, and the 'calvinist' understanding is not that man has no choice.

@christian11111

3 ай бұрын

@@bjornegan6421 it actually is the view point in Calvinism, that salvation comes when God renews you which is done solely by Him and you have no choice or control over it. This renewal must take place before you can choose God, as prior to the transformation you have free will but are in bondage to sin and will never choose God on your own. So if we would never willingly choose God then we have no choice in being saved, and it begs my question. We are to preach the gospel to everyone but ultimately salvation comes by God alone transforming you so you can choose him. man has no choice in the matter. God arbitrarily selected the saved, while arbitrarily not selecting others. If you are a Calvinist please look into this, it’s the U in Tulip, unconditional election. Thanks for your time.

Exactly! Anen ❤

That's how I became a calvinist too

@SpencerLogsdon

3 ай бұрын

I have a question. Can you explain TULIP? I’m having a hard time understanding it through Scripture.

@Scribeintheink

3 ай бұрын

Respond to the first guy with Scripture if you respond. Its definitely a trap

That's how I became A Calvinist

I really love your heart and your work, even though I reject Calvinism. You are very anointed and impactful in the Kingdom. God bless you.

I took my family out of a Pentecostal church into a Reformed one because the gospel i heard being preached didn't try sidestep the wrath of God, and suddenly the scriptures opened up to me.

As opposed to humbling myself, admitting my sinfulness, and helplessness, and calling on God to save me from the things I cannot save myself from in light of the gospel message, the Calvinist insists I cannot even do that much. That admitting my need, and asking for help is somehow an effectual work, and somehow earns or merits my salvation. The bible consistently calls us to humble ourselves and confess our sins SO AS TO BE saved, and that god gives grace to the humble and opposes the proud, (1 Peter 5:5; James 4:11; 2 Kings 2:19, Isaiah 66:2). Yes I am a sinner, and yes I need the work of the Holy Spirit in order to be saved, and yes God always makes the first move in salvation. but I must chose to respond to His call. We are the ones ultimately responsible with what we do with the words of Christ (John 12:44-50). God does not hold us responsible for things we were born unable to do, he gives us a choice. (Deuteronomy 30) Without free will, love cannot truly exist.

@OneAndDo

2 ай бұрын

@@Shepherd16479 No sir, you might not be reformed if you think everything I said doesn’t rub up against some aspects of reformed theology in some way or another. Gods sending of Jesus to die on the cross, defeat death, forgive our sins, and rise again on the third day is the act of God’s grace that was necessary and absolutely sufficient for an unbeliever to hear the message of that same gospel and choose to respond by putting their faith and trust in Jesus (rather than to suppress the truth in unrighteousness (Romans 1:18)) so as to be saved, reconciled, filled with the Holy Spirit, and continuously sanctified. Regeneration never proceeds faith in Jesus, Brother. It’s the other way around

@OneAndDo

2 ай бұрын

@@Shepherd16479 God must save us, god must regenerate us, we cannot do that on our own and I’m not claiming that. Rather, by trusting in Christ we will be raised up BY grace, THROUGH faith. (Ephesians 2:8-9) Read Colossians 2:12, In this verse, faith is is the instrumental means by which we are raised. Therefor, faith, instrumentally, must precede the raising. Does the Bible indicate that a person must be regenerated so that he can believe or does the Bible teach that a person must believe in order to be regenerated? Do we need life in order to believe or do we need to believe in order to have life? This is the question we need to answer, and I’ve found no where in the Bible that states your position clearly, yet could cite you many many more that state exactly the opposite.

Do a Bible word search on the word "choose." You will find a plethera of verses that call for people to choose this or that. Calvinism says there is no choosing, rather God determines. But Joshua says, "Choose you this day whom you will serve..." God says, "I have put before you life and death, Choose life." The Bible says God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." And yet Jesus says, "Broad is the road that leads to destruction and many are on it. And straight and narrow is the road that leads to life and FEW ever find it." These two verses PLAINLY say God wants ALL to come to repentance and be saved, BUT most wind up in hell. So, clearly, in this instance, God's will is NOT being done. In Jeremiah 19:5 it says, "The people built the high places to sacrifice their children to idols, something I DID NOT COMMAND, nor did I speak it neither did it enter my mind." These verses prove beyond.a doubt that God's will is not being done in all situations and NOT everything that happens, happens because God causes it to happen.

Im a calvinist, but it had nothing to do with Calvin?

A M E N

I'm now feeling ashamed my name is Calvin

Was Hobbs a Calvinist?

I remember coming to saving faith in 2020 and believing all the “points” of Calvin. And I only started calling myself a calvinist when a friend of mine asked me what I believed about the atonement and he goes “You’re officially a calvinist!” I was a calvinist before I even knew what a calvinist was. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Jesus was Jewish, Paul was Jewish...They followed Jewish laws, they kept Jewish feasts.. To say they were Calvinists is a pretty silly statement. Yet here you are telling me Jesus and Paul were followers of John Calvin....

Look at pastor Andrew Farley and truly learn the scriptures.

I became a Calvinist because of what I studied in holy scripture

I don't see it! In order to be a Calvininists one has to believe that you have no free will and you have no real choice to choose salvation or not because it was decided for you already. That's the basics in a nut shell

Predestination is a big load of poop

‭‭ "...One thing I do know. I was blind but now I see!” John 9:25b

I guess you'll find out one day !!!!

Calvinism goes against the free will that God gave us. It is unbiblical. Calvinism gains popularity every 50 years then dies off for a while again after they realise their error. God bless.

@MateusPicolli

3 ай бұрын

Can you choose not to be tempted? Then it is not free will, it is free agency.

@user-ux1mg9ky6r

3 ай бұрын

@MateusPicolli your will is your actions. Not your thoughts, but you also can think freely. Temptations can be managed and even completely disregard. I used to be tempted by drugs but now you couldn't make me do them. It no longer a temptation.

I thought he was Jews. Never heard Calvin in the Bible.

Doesnt make any sense, he says I dont read calvin because thats not why im a calvinist. You can be a calvinist for a different reason and still read calvin. Just goes to show that he is speaking fluff

Years ago I prayed that I would be shown the truth about election from Scripture, and shortly after that I read John 6:44. Leighton Flowers denying what that verse means is like atheists denying that Romans 1:18-20 applies to them.

Im not an ist.

so he reads calvinism into the text because people other than Calvin told him about it. Most people are simply followers like this, never actually thinking for themselves. If all you ever read was the Bible, “Calvinism” wouldn’t even be in your vocabulary. This guy is sooo intellectually dishonest!

I’m not a Calvinist because it’s traditions of men

@gfbc1689

29 күн бұрын

That’s a tradition

@NVRSTP

29 күн бұрын

@@gfbc1689yup. Already said that. 😂

Why are preachers sowing much confusion?

Avoid stress, just follow Jesus or not, nobody truly cares anyhow.

Remind them of these things, and charge them before God not to quarrel about words, which does no good, but only ruins the hearers.

Jesus and Paul were Calvinists? You’re kidding right?😂

Yes im a calvanist, I love swigging beer and smoking cigars.Jesus was a calvanist right? Paul too right? (They werent) they werent catholics either. They were Jews XD

Read the bible. For yourselves. Maybe you too will be granted repentance. The new king james is highly recommended !

Jesus was not a Calvinist. If he was he would have said it. Calvinism is a MAN MADE THEOLOGY. We can use anything in scripture to justify beliefs. Doesn’t make it right nor does it mean that what it says. Just follow Christ, not man.

@Rol0123

11 күн бұрын

Amen

I 100% became a Calvinist by reading the Bible. Leighton Flowers is a heretic.

can we just say we follow Jesus?

@jlwalker2embarq

3 ай бұрын

There are a lot of "jesus' " being taught... when someone says that they follow Jesus, which Jesus do they follow ??... the new testament teaches that we should test the spirits...why ?... because, even then, there were false prophets

@APlusGaming

3 ай бұрын

@@jlwalker2embarq I mean the whole reason I believe (my faith) I’m saved is because Jesus died on a cross and 3 days later rose from the grave, now when Jesus died he gave us access to God which was unobtainable unless through the Old Testament but at that moment to the ends of time Jesus paid the debt of sin for everyone. Now I follow the man’s words that did that for me and trust in the Bible as it was and still has credible and valuable teachings.

@APlusGaming

3 ай бұрын

@@jlwalker2embarq also testing spirit is more to deepen your relationships on earth with God. Temptations are put in our lives and we can make decisions everyday based on those trials and tribulations. In my case I hope to put what Jesus and the Bible said was right first because all my action leading to before hand always ended in misery and suffering

@jlwalker2embarq

3 ай бұрын

@@APlusGaming 1 John 4:1 [1]Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

@jlwalker2embarq

3 ай бұрын

@@APlusGaming who is Christ ?

Calvinism in truth would be presbityrianism. TULIP came from the Canon of Dort which was based of Calvins teachings and was a refutation to Jacob Arminius but not actually written by Calvin. Though it was written in the early 1600's so still is a very old text. Predestination is found throughout scripture in both NT and OT, if you read confessions by Augistine, he constantly alludes to Christ calling Him throughout His life though he is unaware of it. Whether this could be defined as predestination is questionable but it definately is an interesting point for conversation. There is also the Pelegian heresy that was denounced by Augistine which should be looked into. Point is this conversation is bigger than Calvin and interestingly smaller than Calvin as it was not his only teaching. As for Durbins comments, that was all worded in the most terrible fashion and as a pastor he has the responsibility of reading Calvin due to Calvin being one of the most significant reformers and possibly the best theologian of the reformers.

“Jesus and Paul were Calvinists!”😂😂😂 Why is it everyone that declares that they’re a Calvinist always have no experience of the Holy Spirit and refute anyone that does? 🤷🏼

@samuelmidzi8240

3 ай бұрын

That's not right Paul and Jesus were not Calvinist. Gedion asked an angel if he was on his side and the angel responded by saying he serves God. I learned that God is on God's side and we must through Jesus join Him. We don't have a thing that God must join.

@steveindorset

3 ай бұрын

@@samuelmidzi8240 I was just quoting the guy in the video?? Go read my post you’ll see the “quote” marks? SMH!🙄

Just read ephesians 1 and 2... and unless you are great at twisting scripture, you'll at least be a partial clavinist.

Boy you are so wrong

Jesus was a Calvinist. Doing blasphemy... But he didn't read Calvin. Did record himself to embarrass himself like he did to others?

@gerrydean7696

3 ай бұрын

You did not choose Me but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit ... John 15:16 Blessed is the man You choose and cause to approach You that he may dwell in Your courts. Psalm 65:4 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:44 I pray for them (disciples). I do not pray for the World but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours. John 17:9

@samuelmidzi8240

3 ай бұрын

​@@gerrydean7696God is not willing that any man should perish... reconcile that verse in 2 Peter 3:9 with Calvinism in and also is faith a work or not? Just those two for now

@gerrydean7696

3 ай бұрын

@samuelmidzi8240 So God is 'trying His best' to save ALL mankind but most of humanity just won't let Him? Who is sovereign, God or man? Who is omnipotent? Saving Faith is a gift from God. You did not 'decide' to have faith.

Is this comedy 😅

So smug like all brainwashed calvinists. I dare you to go to Data over Dogma,or read a David Madison book.Lights will go on

What a lying blasphemous statement to call Jesus Christ the Righteous a calvinist. John Calvin wad a murderous false teacher.

Faith is what ? Calvinist answer because I see that as the failure point of Calvinist...

@ugodaves6577

3 ай бұрын

Faith is believing and trusting in God

If you claim that reading the Bible made you a calvinist then you read it wrong.

@barefootkid592.0

3 ай бұрын

Really? because predestination is all through it!

@Scribeintheink

3 ай бұрын

Yes. Sorry. We forgot to get drunk first and read it with our eyes closed like arminians do

When a preacher whos church i was going to proclaimed himself to be a calvinist i left...absolutely zero regrets. Dodged a bullet really....

@gerrydean7696

3 ай бұрын

Ignorance breeds lack of regrets. If you Don't know what you're missing, How can you regret?

@younkinjames8571

3 ай бұрын

@gerrydean7696 I know exactly what I'm missing. I did my due diligence the second he said it. Nice try tho

I am NOT a Calvinist because I read the Bible. It contradicts the Bible.

I did

Hahahahahahahah foolish rant

Wait till he finds out the Bible is a Catholic book

@barefootkid592.0

3 ай бұрын

No it's not! They have their own bible they have changed the things that let them worship idols and pagan gods!

@jrkustomz5538

3 ай бұрын

@@barefootkid592.0 100% liar. The Bible is Catholic canon. You're feelings and opinions mean nothing to change the facts whether you like it or not 💀💀💀

@Scribeintheink

3 ай бұрын

Wait until you find out the Bible existed 350 years before catholicism

@cosmictreason2242

3 ай бұрын

Wait until you find out the "Catholic Church" as currently conceived didn't exist when the Bible was canonized.

@jrkustomz5538

3 ай бұрын

@@cosmictreason2242 you sure about that.......where's your proof? Where when and what changed......come on go ahead. List it I'll wait

Naw I’m a disciple not a Christian there’s no said titles with YA the most high! Calvinist they claim to be even Christian but yet they don’t know his name

@benpageler4230

3 ай бұрын

Speak English please

@barefootkid592.0

3 ай бұрын

You have no idea what your talking about!

@Scribeintheink

3 ай бұрын

Yah is the name of an egyptian moon goddess so it would seem you are the one that doesn’t know the name.

@UUMRSN

3 ай бұрын

@@Scribeintheink lol 😂 sure oooookkk

@UUMRSN

3 ай бұрын

@@Scribeintheink YAHAWAH is his name and his sons name is YAHAWASHI

you are so not in the know Jesus came before the Calvinist movement it in essence is the other way around and that really doesn't work now does it stop talking for the sake of worldly doubt

@cosmictreason2242

3 ай бұрын

Do you call yourself a way-ist? Do you even have enough Bible knowledge to understand what I'm saying?

@Scribeintheink

3 ай бұрын

People spent centuries trapped by the false Roman Catholic doctrine…the reformers came and taught strictly the Bible…. People who opposed the scriptures called it “Calvinism” im order to discredit it based on a famous Biblical teacher they knew. Me thinks you don’t know what you are talking about

Calvinism is NOT in the Bible. And god is a myth. Move on.

@Phil-oy6mw

3 ай бұрын

Mythology is mythological

@gerrydean7696

3 ай бұрын

Why is your life so empty?