My favorite running joke on the channel is referring to offensive bug moves as “u-turn” because that the only one you see.

@bad-4443

Жыл бұрын

I was literally about to make this comment. I fucking adore it

@vyor8837

Жыл бұрын

Bug Buzz is good too

@sconettilda8580

Жыл бұрын

@@vyor8837 well, u-turn and that one volcarona's bug move, right

@DIRTkat_ofc

Жыл бұрын

U turn Bug buzz Quiver dance is bug i think? I dunno First impression Jaw lock is bug too i guess And even bug bite sometimes And i might be missing something

@joegoff1895

Жыл бұрын

@@DIRTkat_ofc Jaw Lock is dark type?

Having multiple immunities is so essential when you have Illusion as an ability

@moleyswag1311

Жыл бұрын

Huge facts

@borby4584

Жыл бұрын

That said, what WOULD be the best type for an Illusion user? Normal/Ghost is a nice dual type, but I genuinely am curious on if there’s a spread that gives more/better immunities.

@borby4584

Жыл бұрын

Thought about it. Maybe Ghost/Flying? Though that would make you take a ton of damage from Sneaky Pebbles and blow your cover. Ghost/Steel? Though poison isn’t commonly used offensively, and the resistances of Steel don’t matter if you’re a frail illusion user…

@sephikong8323

Жыл бұрын

@@borby4584 Normal/Ghost is great, but I think that the best typing for an Illusion user might have less overall immunities, but more relevant ones (because the Normal immunity might as well not exist), and my answer would honestly be quite obvious to OU players : Ground/Flying. The immunity to both Ground and Electric (most notably Volt Switch) are extremely valuable when it comes to pivoting it in and creating really nasty mind games (disguising a Flying/Ground as a Water type would make some nasty guesswork both defensively and offensively) Also, even thematically I think this typing could easily work with Illusion as when I think of Flying/Ground, I think of a Sandstorm in a desert and well..... it can definitely spill into the mirage motif

@arumaka3662

Жыл бұрын

​@@sephikong8323 Imagine a Flying/Ground illusion mon in a Gyarados team....

Common attacking types like "U-turn", Fairy and Fighting.

@iantaakalla8180

Жыл бұрын

I mean, are there any other Bug types moves used that much? Second closest is probably Sticky Webs and that is not that much. Bug-type moves viability is solely based off of U-Turn (and then Sticky Webs and First Impression, maybe Pin Missile)

@gorillagroddgaming

Жыл бұрын

@@iantaakalla8180 kid named fury cutter venusaur

@TWLSpark

Жыл бұрын

​@@iantaakalla8180 Bug Buzz on Volc, and that's probably it. Slither Wing does run First Impression, too, but I don't think it's common to see.

@thepaintingbanjo8894

Жыл бұрын

Megahorn can be pretty nasty even on non-STAB mons just by its power and little drawback. Dark, Psychic, Grass types aren't all that usually bulky either.

@handsometonyng

Жыл бұрын

Bug type is so bad that only u turn worths mentioning

I remember fighting an H-Zoroark with an air balloon. Why air balloon? Because he had a choice scarf Gholdengo in the back. But when I saw an Air balloon go for Nasty Plot, I thought. "Oh okay. My Volcarona has some chip damage but it should be able to outspeed and fiery dance" and I fell for it hook, line and sinker

@jamesgiles4517

Жыл бұрын

I remember using that strategy XD Execpt I used regular zoroark (this was before H zoroark was released and I fooled alot of people with it)

@Choco_paz

Жыл бұрын

That's a very cool strategy! I might try it out sometime

@ItsFireTiger

Жыл бұрын

There's an illusion girl on the way to Larry's Gym up the road to the left from the Port, she missed up & spoiled the surprise she has for people who encounter her team. So she was an easy take down. Sure Volcarona doesn't have anything for an Hisui Zoroark, unless Hidden Power is still a thing & Her Hidden Power type turned out to be Dark. She's a special attacker anyways, so it'd deal with the Fox

3 immunities is strictly better than only 1 if you have an ability that gets deactivated after getting hit

@phantomfire5013

Жыл бұрын

Not really. The illusion basically wears off if a close combat has no effect on a "kingambit" 3 immunities is better than one for a pokemon that wants to trick other pokemon into using suboptimal moves.

@Dane_XOXO

Жыл бұрын

​@@phantomfire5013 but then once you switch out you get another chance to use illusion effectively, whereas taking damage would give zoroark a unique health bar % that gives it away for the rest of the game.

@Iris_Spring

Жыл бұрын

@@phantomfire5013 the 3 immunities give you more options to effectivly change your pokemon into. when illusion is up, you opponent has to guess which one you are, and if they guess wrong, its another turn of that Pokemon super high damaging pokemon on the feild. so when using it you specifically turn into Pokemon whos weaknesses are zoroarks immunities, to force that guess. zoroark dies in basically one shot anyway, so illusion is basicaly shield if played correctly

@MrMonkey2150

Жыл бұрын

It’s mainly the ghost typing

@phantomfire5013

Жыл бұрын

@@Dane_XOXO That's a pro of having 3 immunities when having illusion, but doesn't have anything to do with the actual breaking of the illusion when hit: If Illusion didn't break when hit, that would still apply.

2:45 Ah yes, my favourite attacking type, *U-Turn*

@Enjinercraft

Жыл бұрын

I commented something similar to this then watch the rest of the vid and then looked at the comments seeing you said the same lol

@martinketchum

Жыл бұрын

yeah basically weak to bug biggest drawback is being weak to U-Turn

@CheckUnderYou

Жыл бұрын

"Attack and types?"

2:45 I like how U-Turn is a "common attacking type". There are no such thing as bug type attacking moves outside of U-Turn -and maybe Bug Bite if the opponent is feeling spicy- .

@ferrucciocaracciuolo8139

Жыл бұрын

Tera bug Leach life bulk up Grimmsnarl.

@chinchillin242

Жыл бұрын

Only bug moves in OU that will ever be seen are u-turn and bug buzz (because volcarona)

@robertbartley2409

Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget Tera bug roaring moon

@DeisFortuna

Жыл бұрын

Yeah... Bug has like, three or four attacking moves that are ever good, even in casual playthroughs, and the others are X-Scissor, Bug Buzz and Leech Life. Also, why does X-Scissor not have a boosted Crit rate. I swear I get Mandela Effect'd every time I actually read the effects because it just ***FEELS*** like it should be the Bug type equivalent of (Night) Slash.

@Tigmas258

Жыл бұрын

Lunge is a pretty good move in a vacuum good base power and petty nice secondary effect

Imagine the mind games if Species Clause didn't apply to Zoroark. Or if Team Preview couldn't tell the difference between regional forms.

@laterferaligatr2947

Жыл бұрын

Species clause has no bearing on wifi battles. I've used both on a team online and it was great fun

@baxterbruce9827

8 ай бұрын

Hot take: We actually need settings to adjust Team Preview if we want, and "Don't reveal form" should be one of the options

@hanspeter24

3 ай бұрын

then game no fun no more how’d you be able to plan the game and your lead if you don’t even know the exact pokemon your enemy is running?

@Crttyt67

3 ай бұрын

@@hanspeter24welcome to gens 1-4, they had that exact thing and still had fun

Your editor is honestly really amazing! Congrats for bagging him for your videos.

@Tazmania98

Жыл бұрын

You just made my year ☺️ Thank you! I'm glad you like it

@kaimanthelizardwizard1248

Жыл бұрын

@@Tazmania98 You really popped off on this video!

@prabhureubenthomas6052

Жыл бұрын

​@@Tazmania98 i thought you was pokeaim's editor

@letzcuddle6778

Жыл бұрын

@@Tazmania98 your work is genuinely fantastic my dude

I like to disguise H-Zoroark as a special Dragapult. I run it as a specs set with Shadow Ball, Hyper Voice, Dark Pulse and Trick. It's hard to notice it's actually not Dragapult and its a double surprise bc my Dragapult is actually a physical Dragon Dance Sweeper

@eldritchexploited5462

Жыл бұрын

Oh that is nasty, I love it

@BerriesNotNice

Жыл бұрын

that's foul bro lmao

@Aerwasilien

7 ай бұрын

I do the same thing, only with more coverage moves on mine. Me getting to Master Ball tier in ranked can be largely attributed to Hisuian Zoroark.

2:46 I love how bug is such a bad attacking type that it's just referred to as "U-Turn" instead of "Bug" lol

@TWLSpark

Жыл бұрын

Bug isn't really a bad attacking type, it's just that U Turn is singlehandedly the best offensive bug type move in the entire franchise. Bug Buzz comes second, but the difference between them is like an ocean considering the difference between the effective users of both moves.

@MrDadhhg

Жыл бұрын

@@TWLSpark There are actually a decent number of good bug type moves, they just only exist on trash tier pokemon. Leech life (80bp, 100acc) for example is the second most powerful generic life draining move there is after bitter blade. But the only pokemon with access to this move that are actual physical attackers are slither wing and grimmsnarl. The rest are special attackers who can't do anything with it or lurantis who also has stab giga drain. Giga drain (75bp, 100acc) is a good move that is used fairly regularly on pokemon like amoongus, and a ton of others because a ton of pokemon get giga drain. If bug moves were available to more good pokemon then they would actually get used more.

@TWLSpark

Жыл бұрын

@@MrDadhhg Bug never had a problem with high BP or anything, it's just that their moves didn't hit anything that Dark or Fighting, common coverage types, didn't already take care of. U turn at the very least brings something to the table in the form of momentum management, and unlike Volt Switch, it cannot be stopped by Grounds. Depending on how the following gens develop, though, things might change for once, considering that Dark at the moment doesn't really exists now that Knock Off distribution was limited again, and thus Bug has a real chance at being a decent coverage option. At least if Game Freak doesn't randomly decide to bring back Knock.

@deathclawproductions6723

Жыл бұрын

@@TWLSpark You pretty much hit the nail, Bug’s biggest problem as a type is in it’s offensive potential. As you noted Dark and Fire already takes care of the types Bug is effective against, and as of right now there’s 7 types (almost half of all types) that resist Bug meaning a lot of Super Effective hits on one of the types it is normally Super Effective on can be brought down to normal effectiveness.

H-Zoroark's typing really carries it. It's the fighting, ghost, normal immunities that allow it to really make use of illusion

@laterferaligatr2947

Жыл бұрын

Also immune to trapping moves and abilities

@hasnonamelol

Жыл бұрын

illusion doesn't matter that much, the typing is just cracked

@anusthing

Жыл бұрын

@@hasnonamelol illusion actually got a significant buff with HZ. It always had potential, it's just that zoroark can't take a single hit.

Back and generation five and six I always tried to make zoroark work but he always feel short on the mark on taking an opponent out or just dies from the slightest breeze of a resistance attack. I am glad this new form is substantially much better.

@butteredsalmonella

Жыл бұрын

In BWUU its really fun to pair Scarf Heracross with Zoroark. Its not entirely foolproof (as its not that capable of beating Zapdos and Togekiss for Heracross) but it breaks Cofagrigus and Slowbro for Heracross to clean-up lategame

One of the biggest reasons for why Zoruark is usually underwhelming is because back in when gen 5 released, the competitive rules made it so your teams Pokémon need to be public, and illusion helped to get a free psychic switch in or fake out, but even if your opponent has no clue, there are very few fighting or poison types that are known competitively to set up with nasty plot.

@Choco_paz

Жыл бұрын

I used physical Zoroark with a sticky web team and paired with a toxicroak (cuz it's my favorite poison type) and they had the exact same moves. My moves were Swords dance, Low kick, Knock off and Sucker punch. There was no way they could tell and it fooled a good amount of people 😅

@Choco_paz

Жыл бұрын

So you can still make it work it doesn't need to use a special set but I do agree that the hisuian form is better

@natecgames4612

Жыл бұрын

@Mistelation mostly I'd think that would work because of the quad weakness being at play, since rarely will a move something is quad weak to not be the strongest move, let alone not effect the Pokémon. What zoruark seems like in your team is to bait and pick off the lead psychic move user of any given team so that your toxicroak (Along with your other mons) could go that much less punished in the field. That's not a terrible strategy, though it falls flat if your opponent thinks whatever they have can deal with either a toxicroak or zoruark without a psychic move.

@natecgames4612

Жыл бұрын

@Mistelation mostly I'd think that would work because of the quad weakness being at play, since rarely will a move something is quad weak to not be the strongest move, let alone not effect the Pokémon. What zoruark seems like in your team is to bait and pick off the lead psychic move user of any given team so that your toxicroak (Along with your other mons) could go that much less punished in the field. That's not a terrible strategy, though it falls flat if your opponent thinks whatever they have can deal with either a toxicroak or zoruark without a psychic move.

@yaboidragonitehere1137

Жыл бұрын

If Team Preview didn't exist, Zoroark would be just fine

Okay, now hear me out: Run both on the same team, leave the opponent constantly guessing

Love it when people call U-Turn an offensive type because every other Bug move is useless

@MaahirMomtaz12

Жыл бұрын

No one's gonna run Bug as a coverage type that's why

@tomgorey9294

Жыл бұрын

Terrak in gen5😮

@midnightemerald

Жыл бұрын

bug buzz volc but yeah lol

@justaliljello5198

Жыл бұрын

​@@midnightemeraldbug buzz volc isn't even common though

@midnightemerald

Жыл бұрын

@@justaliljello5198 ..what?

Really appreciate you showing the description of moves when you bring them up! Real helpful for folks like me that don’t play competitive and don’t have the kinda knowledge to know what some things do right off the bat

Ah yes, the U-Turn type.

Ah yes, the 3 dark weaknesses Fairy, Fighting and U-Turn

2:46 My favourite type is U-Turn

Man, freezai's vids just keep getting better, entertaining, quick and great knowledge about the competitive scene and just good overall

I love running tera blast on H-Zoroark because it's already a stab normal move but if you happen to terastallize to something wacky you have the added benefit of keeping that stab move. Very versatile on a pokemon like this.

I like how you are editing these videos! Keep it up

Your editing has become top tier, keep going freezai💯💯💯

@alphabeta3528

Жыл бұрын

His editor

@hardflip8

Жыл бұрын

Eh dunno if I agree, the sounds and text that quickly flashes are distracting more than they add. If you're going to add graphics let them sit on the screen long enough for me to see and process them. And the TikTok/Shorts style bolded text is too much.

@USPSArtoria

Жыл бұрын

​@@hardflip8true, I feel like stuff is flashing on and off before I have a chance to read it

@USPSArtoria

Жыл бұрын

If you know your stuff this doesn't bother you, but upon bringing it to my attention I caught myself pausing the video a couple times lol

If Bitter Malice wasn't nerfed, imagine how much more terrifying H-Zoroark would be.

@dr.dylansgame5583

Жыл бұрын

This is why I wish they kept the Hex double damage effect at least. That way you could run Wilo Wisp and HP investment with Spdef investment and have a hard to predict and switch into hard hitter that can cripple the enemy while still hitting really hard. Since Wilo Wisp Plus and Attack drop coming off a stab 130 plus base power would be nothing to sneeze at. And it has all the coverage it really needs.

@baxterbruce9827

8 ай бұрын

Why DID they butcher it so hard anyway? It's weird how every Hisuian Form's signature move is terrible or borderline broken in SV (Also, why nerf Bitter Malice so hard when Infernal Parade got to keep ITS effects?)

Loving the editing

What an insane typing does to a mon

Wait a minute, you’re the freezai that’s on showdown? Dude you helped me make my team a BEAST. Thank you good sir- subscribed

It all comes down to one really simple reason - Normal/Ghost is an amazing typing with tons of competitive applications.

Love the new style, shoutouts to the editor

The editing has been top tier

You a good guy freezy I like it Glad illusion can work now cause it’s unique

My favorite way to use H-Zoroark is in conjunction with regular Zoroark since it covers its type weaknesses so well. With the way Illusion works, having regular Zoroark in the last slot makes it so the opponent has to guess whether it’s dealing with the regular or H variant. This allows for some very cheeky plays. I usually like to run a focus sash on the regular one with U-turn on both variants and a supportive mon with healing wish letting me reset its hp and quickly switch for more potential mind games later on in a battle. I’ve really messed with a lot of people using this strategy.

Back when chi-yu was running rampant in OU, I used zoroark to bait switches into the opponents’ walls and counters. I could continuously chip away at them with hazards or just spam dark/fire with what was essentially a second chi-yu

Nice vid mate

After years of using zoroark I found out that the unovian zoroark best parter for using illusion is gengar. The hisuian zoroark has to be disguised as a either as dark or a fighting type Pokémon

I hope you see this but you probably won't. I respect the increased quality of the videos, it's much more visibly appealing and it's definitely going to grow your audience! You also have gotten way more confident doing KZread videos, and I can tell in your voice! You're doing it man, keep up the good work ❤

Not gonna lie, I hope you would add subtitles just like in the Fissure video. That was a great addition.

one of my favorite disguises for h-zoroark is walking wake because of their very similar stat spread for special atk and speed, + both of them having access to flamethrower.

I love that instead of saying dark has a bug weakness you just said it's weak to u turn

I still remember when I discovered the absurd synergy of Zoroark transformed into Gengar while searching for a team to use at the PWT on Black/White 2 back when the games were new... I was 10 years old at the time and felt like the smartest human being in the world at the sudden realization😂😂😂

I like the neat transitions you're adding in these videos.

"Types like u-turn [...]" Ouch.

My favorite moveset for either of the zoro forms is using it on a terrain team, with a seed disguised as hawlucha, they will send in their psychics, ghosts or fairys and getting demolished by your stab or sludge bomb freeing up the way for lucha, can't wait to use h-zoro alongside terrak for the real mindgames though

Ahh, my favorite types, Fairy, Fighting, and U-Turn.

Okay but all things considered, prankster immunity with illusion balances things out.

I used TeraBlast/Shadow Ball/Momento/Nasty Plot,Tera Fairy,max speed and special and Timid for outspeeding as much mons it can,Tera Blast with Fairy punishes overconfident dragon or dark types,while just the nomrla and ghost combo hits neutrally,it makes dittos think twice since you are also immune to the moves yourself,If you think you are not doing survive the turn and your atack does not faint the pokemon,momento could let you give a chance to another setup sweeper like hatterene or dragonite.

My favourite bug moves u-turn, quiver dance and that one bug attacking move volcarona likes using

Thank you for the information. Zoroark variants are my favourite pokemon, it's very useful to know that!

Really appreciate all the moves popup to explain what the moves/abilities do since I basically know none of them!

The Immunities really come in handy cause if your opponent uses a Normal, Ghost or Fighting move and doesn’t effect the pokemon it can really psyche them out. If they are not familiar with Illusion it’ll just seem like a hacked pokemon with no weaknesses. It’s funny and infuriating to some

My H-Zoroark, named Snowdrift, makes for a great matchup in my Snow Team. I shouldn’t have to explain, but because half of my team is weak to Fighting, an immunity _to_ Fighting is incredibly invaluable for the team. I also use Slowking as a slow-pivot alternate setter in the event of an opposing weather team, which is also weak to Ghost. It’s crazy how often she successfully baits in Fighting Moves, allowing her to freely setup in front of notable threats, assisted in part by her Focus Sash. She commonly disguises as my Sableye or Slowking if leading the team, or any of the offensive Ice Types if she isn’t lead. (Baxcalibur or Chien-Pao.) I find the Sableye disguise can last for a disgusting amount of time too, enough for the real Sableye to enter the field and support her by being a literal gremlin, Disabling, Faking Out and Paralysing others to her liking.

3 powerful immunes does a lot of the leg work.

In other words, Hisuian Zoroark is cuter than regular Zoroark.

I’m curious to see how Hisuian Zorark is gonna be in vgc as it has an immunity to fake out and it’s ability is so unique that it might make a splash. Being able to check Flutter Main and switch into Iron Hands isn’t bad either

2:47 I didn´t knew that u-turn was a type

Freezai, regarding your recent Short about Corviknight confusing itself due to an Iapapa Berry...why do people think Mints outright change natures? They don't - they never have. All they do is change the stat calcs, not the stored nature itself, which is still gonna be the original one on the summary screen - and what's passed down through breeding via Everstone. The fact the championship player _didn't look at his metal bird's summary screen_ is his own damn fault. Sure, the changed 'nature' (the stat calcs) are reflected on the stat screen, by changing which stats are red and blue respectively, but the original nature name remains, which a pro like him should've known.

Unfun fact: Zoroark and H-Zorua are in the same tier. The difference in typing is that big

Only one weakness in Dark (or Scrappy Fighting) and three immunities make a world of difference.

Another benefit of H-Zoro, It can use Tera Blast when it's not tera

I go lead H Zoroark to have my opponents sweating from the start. Disguising it as Great Tusk on a Glimmora usually makes them energy ball, even potentially use tera while I can always outspeed and 2 shot. Dragapults somewhat tricky if I can guess it as a lead. I generally just coin flip and hope they shadowball instead of draco turn 1. I need a fairytype to force a shadowball, but eh. Meowscarada is just annoying. I tend to go Orthworm since most carry taunt and dont want a free shed tail pass.

I find that Regular Zoroark works well if you're specifically using a bulky ghost like Cofagrigius. Stab knock off, u-turn, suckerpunch and protect is a pretty annoying set to deal with. That being said, H Zoro is a way better nasty-plotter. After a KO, have it illusion a psychic type and use the turn they whiff to get a free +2, that gg.

My favorite H-Zoroark set is Aerial Ace, Happy Hour, Take Down, and Torment.

This mon is gonna be real spicy post-home ubers. You take the illusion of a sweeper and threatening pokemon [assume calyrex-shadow] which the opponent absolutely cannot let set up. Now if they decide to go for a ghost move here, BOOM you get owned by zoroark. Let's try to do this again in the same match. Let calyrex-shadow switch in on a fighting type move. Now your opponent thinks it's horoark and let it setup Both have nasty plot, psychic etc this is high risk, high reward imo

I need that Esdeath avatar 4:24

My favorite set is a no no sense Specs set with: Shadow Ball Tera Blast Focus Blast Trick The fact that Tera Blast is STAB prior to Terastalizing is nice cherry on top Edit: The set has Tera Fairy since it pairs phenominally with Zoro-H

Almost all of the Hisuian Forms in general are the Upgrades of their Original Counterparts competitively, with only one exception being Avalugg While I love both Zoroark and its Hisuian form, having 3 immunities is better than being dependent on disguising as poison types on a psychic type.

Bring the full captions back 🙏🏼

A ghost pokemon that is imune to ghost moves in a meta game where some ghost types like Dragapault and Skeliderge are considered the best in the tier is pretty dangerous

First impression really puts an impression on Zoroark.

when i played gen 8 national dex i used zororark with detect, substitute, nasty plot, and night daze (40% chance to lower targets accuracy) with the fighting z crystal. Z-Detect raises evasiveness by 1. this helped me win a lot of losing games

The meme with Skeledirge and Dragapult using Bitter Malice against each other for no effect 😂

I know it's definitely an oddball set, but I run Hyper Beam/Shadow Ball/Focus Blast/Nasty Plot on my Zoro-H. The ability and immunities gives it valuable extra turns against opposing Pokemon, and a Tera Nornal HB hits super hard.

Illusion on a Pokémon with like 3 immunities was bound to be broken.

I like that the only attacking bug move is U-Turn.

Someday, freezai will say "bug moves like scizor's pounce" and you will all flip out

I like how he says U turn instead of bug lmao

I'm so mad that I missed the mystery gift for H-Zoroark. So mad.

Even though H. Zoro is a glass cannon, with wil o wisp burning a physical allows you to stay a bit longer. I plain on using the good old hex burn.

Tera normal hyper voice is deadly on this mon

I really want to get into VGC and I was planning to build my team around Hisuian Zoroark, but regulation c hates me :)

Having two forms of this Pokémon is actually a good thing since you may not be able to tell which Zoroark form it is.

My favorite move set for zoroark is specs with shadow ball, focus blast, hyper voice, and uturn with Tera fighting max spatk max speed timid nature

Hisuian zoroark actually had its stats changed to match regular, but the normal ghost type is still huge

@mr.potato

Жыл бұрын

That was only what we saw in the datamine. When H Zoroark came out, its stats were changed to match PLA

Normal/Ghost is my favorite type combo in the game, and is the only reason why I don’t want ghost to be nerfed in the future.

Fun fact: I actually finished to shiny hunt for (unovan) Zoura yesterday.(and I'm hatching the remainder of the eggs as I type this) Interesting that this showed up in my recommendations

My favorite zoroark set is my double dance set I use on my mono normal team.

I used to use Zoroark and Alola-wack together, and it felt like it worked out decently

I like how you still used Generation 3 music but it's from FRLG instead of RSE.

My first impression is that is actually a u-turn type move

I'm thinking of running nasty plot, shadow ball, tera blast and flamethrower.

2:46 "Types like U-turn" Yeah, bug type kinda doesn't have much going for it.

i like using hisuian zoroark with throat spray hyper voice, bitter malice (or shadow ball), flamethrower, nasty plot

Is there even a pokémon whose regional form isnt better than the original? Game Freak should honestly start revamping old pokémon, stats and abilities arent sacred i am okay with they changing them

@sayvionwashington1939

Жыл бұрын

Dugtrio

@dersteve4240

Жыл бұрын

Alolan Dugtrio is worse than regular Dugtrio since it doesn't have Arena Trap. It's also 10 points slower in excange for 10 points in defense, but if you have an HP stat of 35, increasing your defense from 50 to 60 doesn't really matter.

@stardf29

Жыл бұрын

There are a few. In the Gen 8 meta, Galarian Slowbro is RUBL while regular Slowbro is OU, though that's mainly because G-Slowbro doesn't get Teleport. Likewise, Alolan Dugtrio is arguably worse than regular Dugtrio because of lack of Arena Trap. Also, while it hasn't been released yet, Hisuian Avalugg seems much worse than regular Avalugg because Ice/Rock is such a terrible defensive typing, even more so than pure Ice.

@Rarest26

Жыл бұрын

Aside from the ones already listed, you could argue Zapdos to be on the list. Last gen the Kanto one stayed in OU since it released and the Galar form kept jumping between UU, OU and UUBL, so technically its worse, but not by much. Also Raticate but both suck so idk.

Buff suggestion: Illusion only dissapears at

Since hisuian zoroark is only weak to dark, in theory, a pokemon that WANTS to get hit by dark type moves would be the best illusion partner for it, and why kind of mon would want that? Well, a pokemon with justified, for example. Take the swords of justice, for example, whose only abilities are justified (unlike other mons like arcanine having justified but also better abilities) the swords of justice have the same fighting stab that iron valiant has with the additional bonus of heavily deterring dark types to hit them with justified being a free attack boost. It makes what freezai said, being a very deadly guessing game into an even worse one as you could easily help play yourself if you guess wrong. Kinda can't wait for terrakion, especially as he's already known as a physical threat

hear me out, zoroark could be a fairy. even though we have dark fariy already, given its general mischievous personality, and exists in universe almost as a rumor, it would fit as a fairy pretty well. in terms of real world connections, shapeshifters/changelings are irl fairy tales so it wouldnt seem at all out of place to me. this would give it another immunity to dragon, and give it even more offensiive options to play with like play rough, moonblast, or draining kiss if you use a sash but dont want to play setup war with rocks. this could be especially good with mons like walking wake, who has dragon as only 1 of 2 weaknesses, as well as covering its weaknesses to u turn and fighting, instead giving it poison and steel weaknesses, which are less common.

I like to run Modest Throat Spray Tera Ghost Hisuian Zoroark with Hyper Voice, Shadow Ball, Agility and Taunt with max Sp. ATK and Speed EVs with the leftover EVs going into Sp. DEF

I love that he kinda sound like steewe from family guy

What about Terastralization for getting more Stab?