Why is This Reproduction Prohibited?

René Magritte's surrealist paintings can sometimes be confusing. A great example of that is his Treachery of Images and its confrontational "Ceci n'est pas un pipe" or "This is not a pipe". In this video, we're taking a look at the painting Reproduction interdite (Not to be Reproduced), a portrait of Edward James, known for his patronage of both Magritte and Salvador Dali. Learn more about it through, notably, Plato's book X of the Republic.
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  • @mrRicearoni34
    @mrRicearoni343 жыл бұрын

    Interesting how in trying to produce paintings devoid of style, Magritte inadvertently established one of the most iconic and memorable painting aesthetics. Great video.

  • @ericalbany

    @ericalbany

    Жыл бұрын

    It isn't as if he never tried a different technique, but his wife impressed upon him to stick to the manner because it was what brought in the money.

  • @Farweasel

    @Farweasel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ericalbany One smart lady 🙄

  • @ericalbany

    @ericalbany

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Farweasel yeah, but the result is that there's a lot of near repetition in his output.

  • @oldvlognewtricks

    @oldvlognewtricks

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ericalbany Practically the definition of ‘style’.

  • @MALEXISAL

    @MALEXISAL

    Жыл бұрын

    @@oldvlognewtricks dear lord

  • @poppycock4225
    @poppycock42254 жыл бұрын

    you have insanely high production value for 2k subs

  • @TheCanvasArtHistory

    @TheCanvasArtHistory

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I'm glad all this effort is being recognized!

  • @francismoore3352

    @francismoore3352

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheCanvasArtHistory yeah you really do! I'm sure you will start to get noticed more :)

  • @fishboymanshark

    @fishboymanshark

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @francismoore3352

    @francismoore3352

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fishboymanshark Yep!!

  • @Don.Challenger

    @Don.Challenger

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheCanvasArtHistory A journey, pulling on your boots and tying your laces . . .

  • @slaphappybullet
    @slaphappybullet2 жыл бұрын

    Hmm…. It’s almost as if it is an argument against Plato. “The prohibited reproduction” The title alone evokes rebellion. We cannot see the back of our heads and the only way we ever could is with a reproduction, like the figure in the painting. Does that mean the back of our head isn’t real? And by gazing upon the painting, someone behind you would see you as you see the painting, and someone could stand behind them, and so on. Each observer seeing in someone what they can never see themselves. Almost like the artist found this little glitch in Plato’s philosophy that repeats into eternity. It’s as if he is saying art or “reproduction” is the only way to know the unknowable.

  • @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648

    @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648

    Жыл бұрын

    It could be simpler too: the mirror (one mirror, alone) cannot do this. But this phrase is also used with respect to items under copyright, indicating that the copyright owner is forbidding the creation of copies.

  • @oldvlognewtricks

    @oldvlognewtricks

    Жыл бұрын

    Sounds more like an argument *for* Plato, rather than one against…

  • @tim7052

    @tim7052

    Жыл бұрын

    Of course, the back of your head is real!! If it wasn't, your brains would've fallen out, thus vacating your cranial vault a loooonnngg time ago!! Or perhaps it has, and you've not realised it yet? 🤔

  • @barbaravoss7014
    @barbaravoss7014 Жыл бұрын

    You make subtle and difficult concepts clear in your lucid presentations!

  • @SourSourSour
    @SourSourSour4 жыл бұрын

    Can't get enough Magritte stuff. I really need to do more research of him. Fantastic video!

  • @marcasdebarun6879

    @marcasdebarun6879

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you're still interested, I highly recommend the book *René Magritte and the Art of Thinking* by Lisa Lipinski.

  • @jankuipers

    @jankuipers

    2 жыл бұрын

    He Marc. You might like this video inspired by Magritte: kzread.info/dash/bejne/k4We3NOcZLa6d6g.html

  • @TheGyroBarqusShow

    @TheGyroBarqusShow

    Жыл бұрын

    I recommend you to get Magritte: The Mystery of the Ordinary book by MoMA

  • @valentinapa4947
    @valentinapa49474 жыл бұрын

    i love the connection with Plato's Book X! Great analysis!

  • @TheCanvasArtHistory

    @TheCanvasArtHistory

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much Valentina!

  • @valentinapa4947

    @valentinapa4947

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Canvas you’re welcome I love you!!

  • @cabbagehugs4175
    @cabbagehugs41754 жыл бұрын

    Not in the best financial situation presently, but I hope I can better support the channel in the near future.

  • @TheCanvasArtHistory

    @TheCanvasArtHistory

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's super sweet! But don't stress about it! You are already support the channel by commenting and viewing! It's super appreciated. Thank you!!

  • @iamagod923
    @iamagod923 Жыл бұрын

    great video! i personally think that the book is often overlooked when talking about this piece. the way it is reflected & the subject isnt.. its almost like saying that the type of books we read is a far greater reflection of what type of a person we are than any image or reflection in the mirror of us. looks are deceptive.. beautiful faces could be the most terrible ones. its can also be interpreted as.. a book makes you REFLECT on yourself by removing you from the moment & making you look at yourself from a foreign perspective- thus the subject looking at himself. welp thats just me. cheers!

  • @JohnVKaravitis

    @JohnVKaravitis

    Жыл бұрын

    Good point.

  • @ryanfogarty7691

    @ryanfogarty7691

    Жыл бұрын

    That book is also Poe's only constribution to the Lovecraft mythos (Locecraft gransfathered it into the mythos as a non-fiction diary) and ends on a cryptic cliffhanger where the protagonist encounters... something... which he doesn't have enough information to understand. And then it stops. Leaving the interpretation up to the reeader. The end of PYM has been caleld a Black Mirror because how you interpret it says more about you than ti does about the story. And we have a painting here that seems to be playing witht he idea that paitnings say more about the artists and the audience than they do the subject. There is definately some thematic ressonance at play here. ...but I'm relutant to say EXACTLY what the meaning is, because that would really say more about mw than it would the painting. ;)

  • @carlcushmanhybels8159

    @carlcushmanhybels8159

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ryanfogarty7691 Ahah. Thanks for knowing and sharing.

  • @carlcushmanhybels8159

    @carlcushmanhybels8159

    Жыл бұрын

    It's always been a fun playful surprise as a painting, as with many by Magritte; tho this one's extra-special. At first, one might think: 'There's nothing 'wrong' with this painting. Why is it famous? Then, half a second later, realize the truth: "The mirror image should be of his face! Not a repeat of the back of his head! C'est Impossible!" A brilliant play by Magritte.

  • @smkh2890

    @smkh2890

    Жыл бұрын

    @@carlcushmanhybels8159 Whoever could say 'There's nothing 'wrong' with this painting'? It immediately strikes us as an 'uncanny valley', when we can't make immediate sense of it My take is the 'unknowing of identity'. we cannot know ourselves 'from the outside'. The title adds an another dimension of a ban on reproduction, whether by mirror or 'reflection' . Whence the veto? is our un-knowable-ness god-inflicted? or self-inflicted?

  • @oliolisay
    @oliolisay3 жыл бұрын

    Got an unexpected semantic satiation of the word "bed"

  • @wellurban
    @wellurban Жыл бұрын

    Apart from all the thought-provoking discussion, this video suddenly made me realise the inspiration for the cover of Gary Numan’s album “The Pleasure Principle”!

  • @plaidpuma
    @plaidpuma3 жыл бұрын

    love the commentary on this, very informative and relaxing

  • @gunjanx
    @gunjanx2 жыл бұрын

    This video was quite well packaged and researched - subscribed! I've loved this painting for a long time (even have a print in my room) but was okay with not totally understanding it. I do think however that art can get closer to the truth than other 'real' documents.

  • @retromodernism1799
    @retromodernism17993 жыл бұрын

    Highly informative and well produced video; great to watch !

  • @TheCanvasArtHistory

    @TheCanvasArtHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!! I'm happy you enjoyed :)

  • @louisalexanderwaldman5407
    @louisalexanderwaldman5407 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for another deeply researched and beautifully produced documentary. Your channel is my all-time favorite. I just realized from this video that your French accent is also impeccable-my untrained ear suggests: Québécois? ☺️

  • @snowysnowyriver
    @snowysnowyriver Жыл бұрын

    The only thing I can say to this video is....bravo! I had to study Magritte for an arts foundation course and you covered more in six minutes than my tutor did in six months.

  • @amergingiles
    @amergingiles Жыл бұрын

    Specifically, Plato believed in his Theory of Forms, that the purest abstraction of any given thing or idea is the true "Form" of something, and that all that we will see of them is a shadow of it. He used the metaphor of the cave to detail this relationship. Humanity was represented in a cave. Inside the cave, there is giant stone, facing a wall, and behind that stone, a fire and some shadow puppeteers. Humanity is shown as chained to the wall-facing stone, and that all of our experience is merely a shadow puppet version of the truth. The people do not know of the fire or the puppets or the puppeteers, only what they see on the wall, and they only know it as true. He theorized that there would come a time when mankind would be freed, en masse or individually, from this stone, and would discover the truth of their situation. Of course, none of the others would be believe the ones who were freed. The world to them is shadow puppets, to tell them they are just shadow puppets is to tell them their world is a lie. The only way to learn the truth is to see it yourself, and the truth, according to Plato, is that there exists perfect forms of abstractions, and only outside of this cave can they all be seen. "Bedness," for example from the video. A Bed, and all that it implies, in it's purest abstractions, made realized. This would be it's Form. Of course, humanity is still incapable of realizing such a thing. We can make beds, we can make damn great beds, with the best cushions and mattresses and pillows and frames, the best night sleep the human body can ask for, but it will never fully be "Bed." This is why Plato also viscerally despised artists. He believed that they served only to further obfuscate Forms, to perpetuate the growing homogeny of abstraction, to associate Forms with other abstractions completely alien to them. To associate Red with Blood, for example, is to take away from "Redness," the purest idea of the color of Red. To associate Blood with Red takes away from the idea of "Bloodness," and the complex meanings of it, and all that it implies. Injury, life, violence, penance, medicine, they are all implied by Blood, and are inherent to humans interactions with Blood, but all such associations take away from the pure idea of "Bloodness," of the most unique characteristics of what makes blood, blood, and similarly the color Red does not imply any of this on it's own. "Redness" only implies an ever more saturated shade of Red, infinitely redder than itself until no change could ever be discerned. "Bloodness" implies all interactions of blood, all it's characteristics, made infinitely more unique to itself until all that remains is a perfect Form of Blood. To us, they may seem inseparable on any physical level- human blood is Red, but as far as their purest Forms are concerned, they are immutable, and run infinitely parallel, never to intersect, no matter what practical world-shackled meanings could be derived from doing so, and no matter how contradictory these Forms are inherently to each other to do so. He did not despise artists for their art. As imagery and messages to the worldly human race, they do their jobs perfectly, they are simply Art, but Plato's grand cosmic worldview was that art existed to turn pure abstractions of Forms into ever more meaningless noise, to turn "Bedness" into wood frames and cotton throws, and then to turn that into comfort, sadness, sex, dreams, a non-thing in the background of a painting or story. He believed artists eradicated Forms. It was all very Lovecraftian, actually. These days, you could easily disregard Plato as a raving schizophrenic for his Theory of Forms, that there is some meta-truth to all of reality, that there exists pure, infinite realization of all abstractions that the human brain simply cannot fathom in their entirety, and that artists, despite there being a Form of "Artness" somewhere in this fold, were a direct threat to the perception of Forms themselves. Perception as Reality was one of Plato's biggest talking points in regards to art, and how it affects the world. When we collectively agree on an association, instead of the truth as it is, what comes from it? How deeply do we believe in the shadows on the wall?

  • @IdiotBoneProductions
    @IdiotBoneProductions4 жыл бұрын

    This is an amazing video! You deserve many more subscribers and views!

  • @TheCanvasArtHistory

    @TheCanvasArtHistory

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!

  • @rotiferphile
    @rotiferphile Жыл бұрын

    Your image editing is itself amazing story-telling.

  • @Ysckemia
    @Ysckemia Жыл бұрын

    the 1939 "Portrait" is actually a "Porktrait". and though it's a stupid pun, i wouldn't be surprized if Magritte thought of it too (it works in french too "Porctrait"). the Belgians have an amazing sense of humour.

  • @Linda-9037
    @Linda-9037 Жыл бұрын

    Art starts with appreciation and the desire to increase skill. Stopping the clock, concentrating and the enjoyment of the artists own personal expression of truth. It is a need...like breathing...

  • @sam08g16
    @sam08g164 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video as usual!

  • @TheCanvasArtHistory

    @TheCanvasArtHistory

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Vito!!

  • @RFC-3514
    @RFC-3514 Жыл бұрын

    3:52 - Actually, it's not even that. It's paint applied to a canvas forming the shape of _text_ representing the words "this is not a pipe" under some more paint that might make you think of a pipe.

  • @nct948
    @nct948 Жыл бұрын

    beautiful analysis of this piece, helping us to understand it and appreciate it with greater depth. Thank you.

  • @justinegreen7509
    @justinegreen7509 Жыл бұрын

    And now you have 89k! I love your videos!

  • @Brunnkpol
    @Brunnkpol3 жыл бұрын

    Great video and awesome editing!

  • @mariaaaa1128
    @mariaaaa1128 Жыл бұрын

    His French is so good!! I can listen to audiobooks with this voice all day

  • @williammcintyre8570
    @williammcintyre8570 Жыл бұрын

    I love enlightening perspectives. Thank you

  • @saraconstantin6503
    @saraconstantin6503 Жыл бұрын

    You don’t even know how much you helped me for university. I am an art student and your videos helped a lot

  • @ElectionsGenerally
    @ElectionsGenerally4 жыл бұрын

    Inspirational content, as always!

  • @TheCanvasArtHistory

    @TheCanvasArtHistory

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! It's very appreciated

  • @orenmaco
    @orenmaco3 жыл бұрын

    Out Stealing Horses brought me here. What a high quality video! Thanks for that.

  • @aminoto-3
    @aminoto-3 Жыл бұрын

    Wonderfully brief and to the point…

  • @gamesmathandmusic
    @gamesmathandmusic Жыл бұрын

    I’ve liked your stuff so far. Some of the best (maybe only) art criticism videos on here.

  • @KOU-ZAI
    @KOU-ZAI Жыл бұрын

    The thumbnail reeled me in, since this is the very image that was used as a cover for Yumeno Kyuusaku's Dogra Magra.

  • @theeastman9136
    @theeastman9136 Жыл бұрын

    Merci pour cette explication limpide.

  • @silvertbird1
    @silvertbird1 Жыл бұрын

    I certainly learned quite a bit in this video. Now I’m wondering if there’s any significance to “The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket” or if it was just a book at hand. Probably it means something, but it’s been more than 30 years since I read it and I don’t remember the details. Impressive, nailing the pronunciation of the painting’s title.

  • @affogatobanquo8119

    @affogatobanquo8119

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m genuinely wondering that too! I’m glad I’m not the only one! I was looking through the comments to see if anyone else had the same question, Myself I know, everything in art is done with reason, and I wanna know the significance or symbolism of the book. Especially with how clealry it’s painted.

  • @TringmotionCoUk
    @TringmotionCoUk Жыл бұрын

    I went to the Magritte exhibition in Brussels a few years ago. I found a lot of the images quite distrubingly violent - but these are a lot less well known than the famous portraits

  • @Guitcad1
    @Guitcad1 Жыл бұрын

    While watching this, in one of the close-ups of the painting, I noticed something that now makes me want to learn more about Magritte. If, today, you buy a pre-made, stretched canvas at any art supply store, you'll get a surface where the "grain" of the canvas (the alignment of the threads in the cloth) is more or less perpendicular to the edges; i.e. up and down, left to right. However, when Magritte painted this, presumably like most painters at the time (and many still), he prepared and stretched his own canvas. When the video zooms in on this painting you can clearly see that the canvas was stretched at an angle. About 55°. That is so wild to me, because it opens up a whole new dimension of painting that I never even thought about before.

  • @saulo9292
    @saulo9292 Жыл бұрын

    great analysis!!!

  • @michaeljohnangel6359
    @michaeljohnangel6359 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent, as always. Thanks, man! (In my teaching, I prefer to call a portrait "a fiction" rather than "a lie." It makes me crazy when somebody says that the artist "captured the true character" of the sitter. This is absurd. Walt Whitman stated it well, "Do I contradict myself? Very well, then, I contradict myself; I am large -- I contain multitudes." There is no one "true character." It is very hard to get the student to understand that his/her primary concern is not with the narrative-the objects being painted-but with how to make a PICTURE out of them.)

  • @karolinakuc4783

    @karolinakuc4783

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe if they read Dorian Grey. Maybe then they'd understand

  • @terracotta3401
    @terracotta34013 жыл бұрын

    I get the idea. But why call it a "lie" tho? It's someone's portrayal of the idea of a bed, his own truth. It's not like the painter "lie" and shy away from the true meaning of a bed.

  • @greatestever856

    @greatestever856

    2 жыл бұрын

    I dont believe he himself thinks its a lie but rather how plato would think of a painting of bed, I disagree with that and think u have a point, a painting of a bed could be closer to ones idea of a bed “the true bed” than a physical bed

  • @teelakovacs208
    @teelakovacs208 Жыл бұрын

    If you haven't already, (new subscriber) an in depth look at Andrew Wyeth's, Christina's World might make an interesting video topic. I've been fascinated by Magritte for half my life. In school, I even made a reproduction- I know- of The Kiss, which is yet another piece that obscures the face of his subjects.

  • @HugoBastennn
    @HugoBastennn Жыл бұрын

    Amazing content, thank you 🙌🏽

  • @fookusamatube
    @fookusamatube Жыл бұрын

    Thank you I really appreciated this

  • @dansmith4984
    @dansmith49843 жыл бұрын

    Another incredible video, thank you Sir. Magritte really was a philosopher in painting and of images.

  • @TheCanvasArtHistory

    @TheCanvasArtHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Dan!

  • @honorladone8682
    @honorladone8682 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks I totally understand it now. Philadelphia USA

  • @catserver8577
    @catserver8577 Жыл бұрын

    Hearing the theory of Plato and how this painting by Magritte may be referencing it gave me a little shock. I had been thinking a short time before viewing it, that only way to get truth of any given time in history may be in the form of its forbidden art. I am working through my complicated and obscured genealogy which has a lot of "dead ends" in the Franco-Prussian war era. Seeing some of the more subversive art of the time gave me a better mental picture of the more hard to imagine features of the life of my ancestors. And as a side note, as much as I love Magritte and the novelty of the Arthur Pym copy in the image, it would creep me out to no end to have this hanging in my library. (but I still want it)

  • @olivvapor4873
    @olivvapor4873 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, more understandable to me now ... 😊 What is the point of the book ? And its correct reflection ? And perhaps the choice of this specific novel ... 😬

  • @craigbrush5784
    @craigbrush5784 Жыл бұрын

    Some years ago the National Gallery of Australia bought Magritte's The Lovers. A man and woman looking at each other but their faces are covered in a fabric so they can't actually see each other. It's at once a thrilling painting and immensely disturbing at the same time.

  • @seanwelch71
    @seanwelch71 Жыл бұрын

    I've always seen this painting as aman who has positioned himself and a book, approximating his position in front of a painting of himself in the same position beside the same book, providing this curious illusion for the subject of a second painting from the artist's perspective.

  • @davidmolloy126
    @davidmolloy126 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic, thanks very much.

  • @cobramcjingleballs
    @cobramcjingleballs Жыл бұрын

    I wish you had said more about that book, popular in France at the time. It influenced a lot of later artists, namely, the south pacific and antarctic stories of HP Lovecraft....so Cthulhu.

  • @kfwimmer
    @kfwimmer Жыл бұрын

    Great job!

  • @Kiro6666
    @Kiro6666 Жыл бұрын

    Masterful Masterpiece of art works

  • @JamesHawkeYouTube
    @JamesHawkeYouTube Жыл бұрын

    Like all great art, it asks profound existential questions. This process will always be an intensely personal relationship with the viewer.

  • @_________________________x567
    @_________________________x567 Жыл бұрын

    My favorite painting of all time

  • @terryforshee5203
    @terryforshee5203 Жыл бұрын

    Deep question here - I really enjoyed this thought process; art, or art with reflection being third or fourth removed from the truth. Then as the video ended and the painting was displayed again a thought jarred me, the book isn't reversed. What does that say about the book and its relationship to ideal truth?

  • @brucefreadrich1188

    @brucefreadrich1188

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe the book just happened to be sitting on the mantle - coulda been a statue, or a vase of flowers. Not reversed because - lazy? You have to paint the words backwards - what a pain in the ass. Or do you mean, "Why that book?" Not sure. First published in 1838 it starts out like most nautical novels then gets… strange. It is Edgar Allan Poe after all. It would inspire Melville's "Moby Dick" and Verne's "20 000 Leagues Under the Sea" At one point in "The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket" the narrator and few others are castaway at sea in a life boat. They are starving and draw straws to see who will be dinner for the others. Poor guy named Richard Parker gets the short straw. In 1884 a boat sank off the Cape of Good Hope. For real this time. A few survivors were castaway at sea in a life boat. Starving, they drew straws to see who will be dinner for the others. Poor guy named Richard Parker. I don't know if Magritte knew that - or if it has any bearing on anything. Life imitates art???

  • @lightskitty

    @lightskitty

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brucefreadrich1188 at the risk of becoming even more esoteric, perhaps it's about imagining oneself, books often lead us to empathize with the characters or imagine ourselves as them. I would hazard a guess that the mirror is just a metaphor, or that it was never a mirror, it merely resembles a mirror.

  • @brucefreadrich1188

    @brucefreadrich1188

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lightskitty "books often lead us to empathize with the characters or imagine ourselves as them" -Good books sure do.

  • @arteenaccion
    @arteenaccion3 жыл бұрын

    Excelent video 👏👌

  • @TheCanvasArtHistory

    @TheCanvasArtHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @anacleciadantas4277
    @anacleciadantas42778 ай бұрын

    excelente vídeo.

  • @wonderwinder1
    @wonderwinder1 Жыл бұрын

    What about something like an apple? Is a physical apple a rendition of the idea of an apple? I would think not in that there were apples before the words for it came to be. It’s simply named.

  • @karolinakuc4783

    @karolinakuc4783

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe he found him fruity 😂

  • @Kiro6666
    @Kiro6666 Жыл бұрын

    I love he’s paintings beautiful masterful artist

  • @thetinmaamfromozthemagicdragon
    @thetinmaamfromozthemagicdragon2 жыл бұрын

    I don't understand this videos interpretation of this painting, but I think that's how Surrealism operates sometimes. Surrealist paintings move like living things

  • @russellhamer8347
    @russellhamer8347 Жыл бұрын

    Dear 'Canvas' person. fabulous video on this painting. I have a question: how can I get permission to show images of Magritte's works in a text I am writing. I am told that I cannot show any image of a painting by Magritte if it has been altered in any way. But your wonderful video illustrates how effective it is to be able to show altered versions (like when you 'erased' James' image from inside the frame of the mirror).

  • @bohem5568

    @bohem5568

    Жыл бұрын

    Technically it depends on how you are using the work. Such as a published book you will sell, or educational material, etc. There are organizations that handle various artists rights and reproduction. You should check with the museum that owns or houses the work of art. They should be able to give you information on how to acquire rights or let you know what you need to do for that particular work. Most artworks only become public domain after 75 years of the artists death but there are also some other exceptions that might prohibit you from reproducing the work even then, depending on who owns it.

  • @russhamer

    @russhamer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bohem5568 I checked. What other agency do u know besides arsny

  • @bohem5568

    @bohem5568

    Жыл бұрын

    @@russhamer Not offhand. I would check with the Museum Boijmans Van Beuningen in Rotterdam that owns the specific piece of Magritte's. There is also the Magritte Foundation online. Also look into WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organization) they may have some resources that can help. Each country has different laws but the US in general will usually honor the laws of that country. Copyrights can be tricky. As an average person doing something I doubt you have to worry though. At worst you would get a "cease and desist" letter. And usually only if whatever organization finds it offensive in its use. But if you plan to invest a lot of money in a project or use it for economic gain, you definitely want to make sure you aren't overstepping copyrights. They will eventually come after you especially if it gets very wide attention and/or you are making a considerable amount of money off it.

  • @russhamer

    @russhamer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bohem5568 thx. I wrote to the magrit foundation in Brussels. They referred me back to New York to the same place I had asked the 1st time. I have no economic interest in this strictly academic publication To examine the visual science aspects of his work. Thanks for the help

  • @bohem5568

    @bohem5568

    Жыл бұрын

    @@russhamer No problem, hope I was a help in someway. Let me know if you put something out. I'd for sure check it out. Good Luck

  • @amelialonelyfart8848
    @amelialonelyfart8848 Жыл бұрын

    I knew this looked familiar; the painting is used as the cover for "One-Dimensional Man"

  • @troodon1096
    @troodon1096 Жыл бұрын

    I just think he wanted to paint something that people would be trying to explain almost 90 years later; in that he succeeded. But was it worth succeeding at? I'm sure people will spend almost a century discussing that too.

  • @davidfanning1600
    @davidfanning1600 Жыл бұрын

    May be it's not a mirror but a painting that he's looking at.

  • @anitaagler9844
    @anitaagler9844 Жыл бұрын

    I interpreted the “it is not a pipe” painting as the Surrealist going against the Bourgeois society. Saying that we will call things what we want and not let it be told to us.

  • @canerbaykara4591
    @canerbaykara45914 жыл бұрын

    Great one

  • @TheCanvasArtHistory

    @TheCanvasArtHistory

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!

  • @gabudovx6913
    @gabudovx69134 жыл бұрын

    Awesome!

  • @TheCanvasArtHistory

    @TheCanvasArtHistory

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @LuiKang043
    @LuiKang043 Жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't it have been better if the book was Plato's Republic?

  • @Don.Challenger
    @Don.Challenger Жыл бұрын

    The idea being: The sitter (though standing) asked for his portrait; but, impossible to produce, received this artistic reproduction in lieu. Did he actually sit for his, or was this a virtual presence distilled? Each brushstroke compounded, hypothetically, adding essence.

  • @temporoboto
    @temporoboto Жыл бұрын

    good content.

  • @Sincerely.Nicholas
    @Sincerely.Nicholas Жыл бұрын

    Great vid

  • @vanillafire2652
    @vanillafire2652 Жыл бұрын

    I m new, surprise et très emballée de ton travail !!! J ai mis la tite cloche, BIEn HÂTE DE m éduquer aux peintres, Car je suis moi même artiste peintre autodidacte et je recherche Toujours à agrandir mes horizons en histoire de l art !! Donc merci!!!

  • @mariawhite7337
    @mariawhite7337 Жыл бұрын

    I remember going to a dollar store and seeing imitation processed cheese squares. An imitation of a imitation of a product.

  • @2msvalkyrie529

    @2msvalkyrie529

    Жыл бұрын

    Your talents are wasted on here .!

  • @andrewclayton4181
    @andrewclayton4181 Жыл бұрын

    The humour which provokes thought, a staple of Magritte, reminds me of Banksy. I wonder if he was influenced by the Belgian.

  • @karolinakuc4783
    @karolinakuc4783 Жыл бұрын

    Wnikliwa analiza

  • @danschneider7531
    @danschneider7531 Жыл бұрын

    The actual object slept upon is the bed. The idea is not a bed, the image is not a bed, nor are the letters B E D a bed. Just because someone says something does not mean they are correct, and when an incorrect notions floats about w/o challenge it becomes a bad thing, for art and life.

  • @NicleT
    @NicleT Жыл бұрын

    Where Plato is _wrong_ is: you can’t lay down and sleep on the concept of Bed. So if a bed purpose is to be able to sleep in it, the concept of Bed is false. Plato wasn’t really wrong but his assumption creates a paradox.

  • @violjohn
    @violjohn Жыл бұрын

    How do you know it’s a mirror? What if it isn’t (and of course it isn’t).

  • @brandongorin7978
    @brandongorin79784 жыл бұрын

    This is solid

  • @TheCanvasArtHistory

    @TheCanvasArtHistory

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @nathanielhellerstein5871
    @nathanielhellerstein5871 Жыл бұрын

    I do not sleep on abstract forms. I sleep on beds. The bed that I sleep on is truly a bed. Plato's form-of-a-bed is a reproduction of a reproduction.

  • @113dmg9
    @113dmg9 Жыл бұрын

    My drawings and paintings didn't have faces in them either but that was because I couldn't draw faces.

  • @whatthefridge1o1
    @whatthefridge1o1 Жыл бұрын

    Your french is really good, do you speak it?

  • @weebunny

    @weebunny

    Жыл бұрын

    Two Canadian accents in one video! He speaks French with a Canadian accent. I bet he's bilingual.

  • @whatthefridge1o1

    @whatthefridge1o1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@weebunny lol I'm so Canadian I didn't even recognize the accent

  • @weebunny

    @weebunny

    Жыл бұрын

    @@whatthefridge1o1 Well, I speak English first (US) and learned French later, so I'm no expert! But I've been to France and I've been to Québec, and he sounds more québecois than French to me. I could be wrong.

  • @mendelovitch
    @mendelovitch2 жыл бұрын

    But what about the book? How does this specific title fits into the picture? (pun intended. I regret nothing!)

  • @karolinakuc4783

    @karolinakuc4783

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe it was a joke about gossip of him being homosexual. He was bi yet he didn't have children. So maybe that was a joke about him and a prophecy that came true. At least that's what I got about his life browsing Wikipedia

  • @gregorygaskill5412
    @gregorygaskill5412 Жыл бұрын

    Has anyone read the book?

  • @Maizazael
    @Maizazael Жыл бұрын

    *chef's kiss*

  • @JumeoniArt
    @JumeoniArt Жыл бұрын

    오👍🏻👏 큰 도움이 됩니다 바로 구독하고 갑니다🤗

  • @remi_gio
    @remi_gio2 жыл бұрын

    Bravo👏👍

  • @MegaRudeBoy69
    @MegaRudeBoy69 Жыл бұрын

    I always love to mess with people, at my art shows. They comment about the subject of a painting and i say "It's not (Fill in subject), it's paint on a surface."

  • @wellesradio
    @wellesradio Жыл бұрын

    I’m commenting only a couple minutes into this video, but I’ll bet photographer has reproduced that painting without editing, just with two strategically placed mirrors. Heck, it can even be reproduced as an interactive art installation.

  • @PedanticAntics
    @PedanticAntics Жыл бұрын

    It is said, in the Dao De Ching, "The Dao which can be spoken of, is not the true Dao." In Zen Buddhism, it is likewise said, "One can only _point_ to the moon."

  • @annalisette5897
    @annalisette5897 Жыл бұрын

    It's a good video. I was going to leave a snarky comment but others have left such thoughtful comments. To me the argument about "truth" falls apart if truth is the concept of an object. If the mental creation of a "bed" = truth, it is very hard to sleep upon. In fact one would experience the cold truth of sleeping upon the ground. I would rather have the second reproduction of "truth", the carpenter's conception, complete with soft mattresses, fluffy quilts...etc. (This may be an ignorant comment. If so, call me a philistine! LOL!)

  • @gnarbeljo8980

    @gnarbeljo8980

    Жыл бұрын

    I think you're missing thr fact that the concept of the bed is a comfortable place to sleep, to rest after a long day's hard work, take a nap on a sunday afternoon or, a place to dream, have intimate conversations after lovemaking on it, a place to tuck in a child, for bedtime stories and reading a good book, a symbol of the marital bond, a place for passions and prayer, for weeping, for falling asleep and waking up energized or hung over, the place we spend a third of our lives, a birthplace of ideas and also humans themselves, a cool place in hot climates, a warm one in cold weather, and so much more. A particular bed is only one interpretation of this, befitting the circumstances and needs of that person or maker, and therefore there is no physical bed that quite captures and realizes the concept fully. It's also merely a thing, wheras the idea invovles the actions, many images, nuances, ages and peoples and uses of it. The mind is a marvelous place that way. The early surrealist filmmakers like Duchamp and Maya Deren experimented with trying to capture this magic of the mind, the subconscious, dreams, ideas and puzzling in moving imagery. If a philosopher like Plato questioned the validity of art from a perspective of ideals of truth, the Dadaists and Surrealists questioned the validity of the common concept of what art is, looks like, it's grammar and function and the salon/marketplace of art and the ideals of the elite funding it all, proporting that anything and everything can be art depending on who looks at it, how it's presented, and if you want it to be. Andy Warhol would later do the same but with less interest in philosophy and more with pure aesthetics, what things he saw everyday looked like. He made an early film many hours long of someone sleeping in a bed, uncut in real time. A projection of a bed but also someone sleeping in it, with all that it involves when watching it. I don't know if this makes any sense to you, but an attempt anyway.

  • @PeterStanton
    @PeterStanton Жыл бұрын

    It’s easier to tell you’re Canadian from your French pronunciation than your English pronunciation. 😁 (En tout cas, merci pour la vidéo.)

  • @dnavid
    @dnavid Жыл бұрын

    why is there bird poo on the back of the figure? very distracting but did Magritte do it or is the image just taken from a bad reproduction?

  • @sheryarahmed6331
    @sheryarahmed6331 Жыл бұрын

    please do a movie review with yourmoviesucks

  • @artsomniacv-logcitybydanie1249
    @artsomniacv-logcitybydanie1249 Жыл бұрын

    The face in the hair is cool. kind of looks like a warewolf or dogish cat or an eletist dark mask. the 2 reproductions* look like a two different figuers bcause the hair is not the ssme where the one eye would be.

  • @7prudent
    @7prudent Жыл бұрын

    You do not make the letter T sound, when you pronounce his name..

  • @socialtwerker

    @socialtwerker

    5 ай бұрын

    That is not a letter T.

  • @curiousworld7912
    @curiousworld79123 жыл бұрын

    Plato was wrong. :)

  • @stephaniediazcortez3192
    @stephaniediazcortez3192 Жыл бұрын

    I love your francee

  • @TheFansOfFiction
    @TheFansOfFiction Жыл бұрын

    The "rendition" of the bed is the real bed. The idea of the bed and the representation of the bed are both once removed from reality if you do not include all things that exist under the definition of reality.