I really liked your analysis of this! Came here from Razbuten's tweet about fishing games, stayed for the interesting video. Keep up the great work!

@filmotter

2 жыл бұрын

Hey there, thank you so much. I really appreciate you saying that! I do what I can. Glad the video seems to be resonating with people.

This was super interesting! It never even occurred to me that fishing minigames work in the same way loot boxes do, but it makes sense.

@filmotter

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! And yeah, it was interesting to dive into the research for all the psychological stuff behind both fishing and lootboxes. I was kind of surprised that there were actually scientific papers written about it.

Hey I'm making a fishing game myself and your video actually helped me with the game design aspect! Severely underrated video, needs more views.

@filmotter

3 жыл бұрын

Oh wow, that's a huge honor. Thank you so much for watching and for being so kind. I put a lot of work into my video essays, so it means a lot.

I love fishing in mmos. You just chill with friends or strangers. I think one of the best fishing systems was in dragon quest 10 where it works like an extension of the combat system. Also fishing gave you fishing coins that you could trade for items and such. I think things like this besides just fighting really add the sense of a living world.

Never thought of fishing being similar to lootboxes but it makes sense! And yeah i am pretty tired of these animal crossing style fishing games. My favorite fishing minigame is the one from Okami, where you can draw the line to the specific fish you want, the chance shaved away slightly by being able to see size. Then you have to pull the line in the opposite direction the fish is swimming in, staying in a green area or you lose stamina. The green gets smaller and the controls touchier the larger the fish. Press a button to breach the fish, hit them with an attack, and boom, fish time. I thought it was a pretty good involvement, but not so complicated i needed to dedicate resources away from other aspects of the game. The most you have to do is buy like 2 specialty rods.

@filmotter

3 жыл бұрын

Wait, I had no idea Okami had a fishing mini-game! This may make me finally pick it up. I somehow totally missed it when it came out. And it totally looks like something I would be into. Do you happen to know if it's on any current-gen consoles?

@Shadowpool71

3 жыл бұрын

@@filmotter Oh yeah it does! You actually HAVE to fish about 3 or 4 times in order to progress. Once to unlock a power, and twice to unlock an area, and a few other times to get optional powers. If you've never played it you totally should. Its on switch, pc, and ps4 (not sure abt 5) for like 20$ or so and frequently goes on sale. I've played it like 6 times and my fav way to play is the wii, but i do appreciate the new hd versions too. The fishing minigame doesnt actually open-open up until i think a few hours into the game though... you have to get to agata forest and help a kid catch a fish that ate a key, then again when it eats his dog. You cant really fish "at will" until almost a third through i think when you hit ryoshima coast after you heal a city and help a guy catch a sword. Hope this helps!

@filmotter

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh, thank you! I may give it a shot on the Switch soon! I feel like the joycons will probably be useful for the paintbrush mechanics. 🥰 I'm super excited. Do you know if they ever made any sequels or anything?

@Shadowpool71

3 жыл бұрын

@@filmotter I havent played on the switch! I wonder if you can use your finger on the screen in mobile mode... that would be cool! Lmk how it turns out! Its not a particularly hard game, but very fun and satisfying to play. The dialogue is p cheesy and some parts def suffer in the modern day (i really cringe at a lot of Issun's creepy actions towards women now that im not a kid and paying attention) but the story really is excellent, and the characters have a lot of charm to them. The combat is super satisfying too. They rate you kinda like Devil May Cry after combat, via time/damage taken/damage dealt. You can easily just button mash, but its MUCH more fun after you unlock more brush skills and you can really find stylish ways to put the hurt on demons by the end. And yes they did, they made Okamiden for the DS, which takes place directly after Okami by about 10 years i think and follows Ammy's son who is a wolf puppy. Its kind of split on terms of people liking or disliking it, but i liked it well enough! It captured the spirit of the og game well, and getting to see the kids of the characters from the first game was sweet and made me happy to see how good they were with their kids. The story was pretty good imo, but the combat and weapon system suffered a bit, mostly bc okami didnt have much of a grind system unless you wanted demon fangs or money; you got your weapons by beating bosses or cleansing areas of the map so it felt more earned than just beating x amount of demons like in okamiden to level up the 3 weapons you get. Also, theres no fishing minigame as far as i can remember in the sequel which automatically makes it worse. Sorry for the long winded explanation, but i hope you enjoy! Lmk how you like it! Thanks for giving me a chance to talk about my favorite game as well :) its the game that made me fall in love with gaming as a story experience, and the Oni Island arc is still something i can point at years later and say that it can highlight so well what can drive a player and motivate them.

It’s me. Cooking is one of my favorite type of side content modes. That said, I am a fishing completionist. A complete set of any type of critters gets to me every time.

@filmotter

6 ай бұрын

I must confess I love a complete bestiary etc

I've never fished in real life. But I did fish in FFXI heavily. To the point I earned the Ebisu rod... solo version of getting a relic weapon. I absolutely loved the journey. I was in a linkshell and could hop on Teamspeak and listen to them doing their group quests (which I joined in also at times) but other times I'd have a pack of beers and just leisurely fish a spot out for a couple of hours. Levelling took aaaaages and there was a stamina system that meant you could only fish for a couple of hours or so a day. It could take an hour or so to prepare getting buying bait or crafting it at higher levels. To be self suffieicent you had to level cooking and woodworking to be able to do this which took ages as well. Other than a dedicated fishing game I'd never again consider a mini game in any other title. Nothing would compare.

You should have way more views… thank you for your work !

@filmotter

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for saying so! I do my best. Sharing the videos helps a lot if you really like them and want more people to see them. 🥰

FInished my binge, blow away by the text quality and graphics on this channel! Huge amount of potential here!

@filmotter

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I hope you haven't gotten sick of my voice just yet. 🤣

Really interesting stuff, great work man! Excited to check the other videos you released and any other ones you come up with

@filmotter

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I'm glad so many people are enjoying this one. 🥰

This was soo well-researched and produced. Bravo!

@filmotter

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I spent a lot of time on it, so that really means a lot! ☺

Wow, i didnt realize fishing was such a big thing on games before i saw this video! Thanks for the informative documentary

@filmotter

7 ай бұрын

I'm glad you enjoyed it. This was my first ever video essay so I forget people still see it nowadays lol

If you're here from the tweet, hello and welcome in. I hope you enjoy uwu.

@LinkRammer

8 ай бұрын

I enjoyed but why the uwu💀

@filmotter

8 ай бұрын

@@LinkRammer because it's very uwu lmao

That’s what im saying! After hours of grinding i would want to take a break and do something that just relaxes me and i love how games gives you rewards for fishing like minecraft

One game i played - that i sadly cannot remember the name of - had an interesting approach. The fishing itself was pretty basic, but the fish you caught could be uaed in this little minigame where you bred and raced fish. It was like a super small scale virtual pet. Very minimal features. You couldn't even raise their stats, it was dependent on the rarity of the 2 fish you bred. Still, it was cute and made me actually want to do the fishing.

Yay! this was super cool and informative, we love the inclusion of Brian for a few secs :D

@filmotter

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Mos! I appreciate that. I tried to include as many games as I could. And I had to get some of Brian in there for us!

@puzzledmonkeytree

3 жыл бұрын

@@filmotter we know you have PRY OAR IT EASE

@filmotter

3 жыл бұрын

@@puzzledmonkeytree Yes! OAR because water and boat and feesh. I see what you did there!

@DonBeardy

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't include any supplemental Brian fanart 😭

@filmotter

3 жыл бұрын

@@DonBeardy ooooof I am so sorry Don. 😄

This was a great watch. You deserve more subs!

@filmotter

Жыл бұрын

Thank you I appreciate it!

came from razbutens tweet, love your style! 💙

@filmotter

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!! That really means a lot!

Its because everything we do can be Fishing. To Fish is to Reflect, so figures we all get to do that in our video games as well.

Another fascinating video for which you clearly did extensive research. I think the video game I have done the most fishing in has to be World of Warcraft online, where the fishing is quite sophisticated in terms of gameplay and reward system. There is a fishing skill level to build up, there are different fish to catch in different regions and different times (gotta catch em' all!), cooking recipes for different fish, quest missions to catch particular fish, and a wide variety of loot and rare-items to catch as well, all of which feeds that psychological addiction-reward cycle.

@filmotter

Жыл бұрын

Uh oh. Am I going to sign up for WoW now? 👀

@MaxWattage

Жыл бұрын

@@filmotter Don't do it! Everything about WoW is designed to be addictive. I lost years of my life to it, eventually creating five separate level 80 characters.

A great video on a mini game in almost every game I've never thought much about. Keep it up man.

@filmotter

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Had a lot of fun making this one. 🥰

I guess my dopamine is broken 😂 I would play World of Warcraft with my boyfriend and he was busy getting all the fishing achievements and I tried... for 5 minutes, then I got bored and went to do something else lol. It has to be something a little more than wait... press button... wait... press button... 😂 Stardew Valley's fishing game irks me though. The progression curve is no fun to me. But a lot of games suffer from such a thing. The beginning is so difficult, but at the end when you start to master the thing, you don't need to anymore due to all the upgrades you unlocked... that sorta thing really puts me off. But that is a whole different video I guess 😂

"You, sir, are a fish!" - Arthur Morgan

@filmotter

Жыл бұрын

😄 I would love to be called a fish by Arthur tbh.

@funfromabove9728

Жыл бұрын

@@filmotter Arthur was one of very few video game characters to pull a tear out of my eye. I've played through twice. Still can't bring myself to uninstall it. I miss Arthur too much, I boot it up regularly and just mess around with NPCs. Can't quit Arthur. Rodger really did an amazing job bringing him to life.

@filmotter

Жыл бұрын

@@funfromabove9728 a great VA can really work some magic.

first time watching your videos. keep up teh great work!

I finally got around to watching this!!! Super dope! Nice work! ^_^

@filmotter

2 жыл бұрын

Awww thank you Cat

Awesome vid! ❤️❤️

@filmotter

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I appreciate that

1982, Fishing Derby by David Crane. Atari VCS.

Depends on the game. Most games throw it in just because.

Actually, I'm not a fan of fishing in FF15 or loot boxes. In FF15, when trying out different lures, sometimes I don't know if I'm doing it right. And once I caught something, I don't really find any value to the fish as food ingredient nor as a trophy. But fishing in Stardew Valley was great for me. But I feel like it could've been expanded upon.

@filmotter

2 жыл бұрын

Ugh loot boxes are the worst right? I really hate them lol And yeah, the fishing in Stardew is really spectacular! Can't give it enough praise. 🥰

I don't know if fishing is a particularly modern, 2021 phenomenon in gaming. Like in 1998, you had Ocarina of Time, Suikoden 2, Pokemon Red and Blue, and Sonic Adventure, all of which had fishing mini games. Probably equal to the sum total of notable games in 2021 which had fishing mini games. I don't think devs are "obsessed" with fishing nor is fishing in "every video game" as the title suggests. It's just a popular hobby all over the world, makes sense that it would make its way into video games in some limited capacity. Point being, you don't need to force a narrative man, you don't need to exaggerate the significance of your subject matter. Just opening with "Hey, fishing in video games is neat let's talk about it." is good enough.

@filmotter

2 жыл бұрын

It's just something that I specifically noticed a lot in a bunch of games that came out this year. I totally get what you mean though. I could have worded that better, for sure.

This is awesome! Great video :)

@filmotter

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I had so much fun creating this video, I appreciate you saying that. I noticed there were so many fishing minigames in so many games, so I figured I should make a video diving into that topic. 😊

In my opinion okami has the BEST designed and implemented fishing mini game ever!

@filmotter

2 жыл бұрын

A few people have commented that also. I really need to get around to playing Okami!

*DING* a feeeesh?!

@filmotter

3 жыл бұрын

We feeeeeeesh, all the feesh! Withour rods. Or something.

persona 5 has fishing well hot damn I guess I'm playing that now

Sega Bass Fishing is goated

Wait we like fishing in games because we're being psychologically manipulated? Damn need to unpack this a bit

@filmotter

3 жыл бұрын

To some extent I think a lot of what we like in games comes down to some amount of manipulation, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. We're just pressing buttons to make things go pew pew, so getting us hooked into a game has to involve some kind of manipulation. 🤷‍♂️

@DonBeardy

3 жыл бұрын

So like hot Brian with eggplant emojis seems like it might be very manipulating since lots of dopamine

@filmotter

3 жыл бұрын

@@DonBeardy honestly yeah! Would most people have put up with his storyline if he didn't look like that? Most likely not. 🙃

@DonBeardy

3 жыл бұрын

The real T tho

@filmotter

3 жыл бұрын

@@DonBeardy the most T T that there isss

This is amazing!

@filmotter

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I put a lot of work into it, so I really appreciate you saying that. 😊

Wait this is a video about fishing or lootboxes? ~Jokes aside, fishing IS A LOOTBOX, they aren't microtransactions... I mean at least the ones talked about in this video...

150th subscriber Baby

@filmotter

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! 🥰

fishing is fun in all the games i play

this was super enjoyable, interesting, and informative and i watched it through at NORMAL SPEED 9:44 is gold *not a coelacanth, obviously

@filmotter

3 жыл бұрын

BAHAHA. Thank you mompou. A TRUE fren. But also like actually thank you, that's really nice of you to say. I tried REALLY hard so I hope that translated LOL

@filmotter

3 жыл бұрын

Also yeah I gave up on getting that coelacanth pretty quickly.

Fishing in wow is chill

I love fishing in games

BoF3 was fucking amazing

@filmotter

Жыл бұрын

I need a port for Switch!

@LuisEdGm

Жыл бұрын

@@filmotter Hey if you miss it a lot, you can check out the game my brother and I are making, it's called Edengrall, this month we are implementing fishing taking Heavy inspiration from BoF3 and 4

@filmotter

Жыл бұрын

@@LuisEdGm oooh tell me more! That sounds great!

@LuisEdGm

Жыл бұрын

@@filmotter it's a Farming sim on Steam, we just added critter catching, and the critters will be used as bait for the fish, we have a free demo

How can anyone even do a video about videogame fishing and not talk about Ocarina of Time

@filmotter

8 ай бұрын

I've done the impossible!

me over here omw to put fishing in a fnaf fan game's nights as an actual thing to do to not die