I mean the Serbians still talk about 1389 like they were actually there.

@chuckemeade

3 жыл бұрын

Makes no sense does it?

@mileseximius

3 жыл бұрын

They were. All Serbians reincarnate as Serbians so they can fight in the name of Serbia.

@nedmccarroll8462

3 жыл бұрын

Tell me more,OK

@bobpobcf9723

3 жыл бұрын

@@mileseximius once a Serb always a Serb 💪💪💪. Reincarnation forever

@ranelgallardo7031

2 жыл бұрын

For someone outside Serbia, explain what happened.

When asked why the Dutch take land from the sea. The reply was, its easier than taking land from the Germans

@shellshockedgerman3947

4 жыл бұрын

I mean they did try to take a lot of Low German areas after WW2.

@kenbee1957

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣 🇩🇪

@ForestContent

4 жыл бұрын

My German friends usually call me a 'water German'

@maxx1014

4 жыл бұрын

@@ForestContent dk about that but we call Austrians e.g. mountain Germans lmao... So yes then you're a water German lol

@ForestContent

4 жыл бұрын

@@maxx1014 ayy one big happy Germanic family since '1946

Southern states after the war: "We don't want to be oppressed by a stronger power and be told what to do." Former slaves: "Yeah, sounds like a real drag..."

@terrencemoldern2756

3 жыл бұрын

North also went against slaves believe it or not. It’s called racism and it was apart of the culture back then... Also huge difference between doing something that at the time was acceptable... and pretty much prosecuting against a nations own people. The south were considered American hence the oppressed argument applies better to them since their supposed to be our own... while slaves weren’t

@jongabrielminney2440

3 жыл бұрын

@Yulfa Weisulf your race was enslaved? when?

@terrencemoldern2756

3 жыл бұрын

@AztecMFG if it’s defensive to point out the reality of the war then.... Because I don’t like misinformation? Sorry to tell you this but literally no one ever has said it didn’t involve slavery at all. The argument is over states rights which did include slavery however it wasn’t the only reason or even the reason for them leaving the union. They felt like they were being treated unfairly and like they didn’t have a say which by all accounts is not inaccurate. The Union didn’t even go to war to end slavery... they did so to try and keep the union together. Only being made into slavery by Lincoln.... It’s good that it ended but it’s the typical mob mentality to blame the other side and demonize them. A majority of the confederates didn’t own slaves and were only defending their states. One that conveniently did support slavery. Something that was still practiced in every single nation at that point and was still seen to be a legitimate act. This is just as bad as prosecuting every Nazi soldier ever and is ignorant to the reality that they ether didn’t know or were manipulated into such actions. People loved their state. Not the corrupt government... which in case you didn’t realize yet is a true cause.... Watch and see. In just a decade we are going to be living in Cyberpunk 2077 because for some reason we wanted to live with bigger government over states.... they weren’t wrong beyond slavery for their actions

@terrencemoldern2756

3 жыл бұрын

@AztecMFG lol even after pointing all of this out. I already know ether you or someone is gonna repeat the same talking point “ThE cOnFEdErTeS SlAVerY aS thEiR mIaN rEaSoN” Literally reasoning given by their figure heads... that like again... painting the soldiers of Germany as mass murderers and monsters for Hitlers actions..... Same ignorance

@lilshmokey4132

3 жыл бұрын

@@jongabrielminney2440 all races have bein enslaved at one point

‘I was inspired to make this video whilst making fajitas’

@beavercleaver7848

3 жыл бұрын

Stop making up words, please.

@dekehassa4582

3 жыл бұрын

@@beavercleaver7848 For as much research went into this steaming pile of shit, any words will do.

@aidenbustos8625

2 жыл бұрын

@@beavercleaver7848 tf are you talking ‘bout

@VLCBK

2 жыл бұрын

I read your comment at the same time when the narrator said the replic. You`re like a subtitle, pal

Many generals and commanding officers on both sides were classmates even roommates at West Point prior to the war.

@formwiz7096

4 жыл бұрын

One of the main reasons we never turned into a Banana Republic the way the Radical Republicans wanted.Jefferson Davis was a more honorable man than Jefferson C Davis. Something the haters don't want people to know.

@openscholar9908

4 жыл бұрын

Makes the whole thing seem staged.

@BradWatsonMiami

4 жыл бұрын

@@formwiz7096/Anonymous Coward: Wrong. It was the evil slaver, traitor and mass-killer of US troops Jefferson Davis who wanted the Confederacy to continue through guerilla warfare thus turning the South into a Banana Republic. Today's your Judgment Day: you FAIL. Sentence: Really awful luck for the rest of your life, then your eternal soul will be reincarnated as female guerilla for 17,400 years with 174 years incommutable. When you're born-again as human, it'll be as a poor, petite African woman.

@gregoryleonwatson8631

4 жыл бұрын

@@formwiz7096 There's NOTHING honorable about the treasonous Confederacy.

@formwiz7096

4 жыл бұрын

@@gregoryleonwatson8631 Another troll spewing the party line.

So this was all a ruse to get us to learn about Dutch history?

@emill232

7 жыл бұрын

a diabolical plan

@historywithhilbert146

7 жыл бұрын

Dammit, I thought this controversial topic was ideal for lulling you into a false sense of security before I hit the House of Orange!

@TheSteelEcho666

7 жыл бұрын

PatchesRips I'll have you know that I'm English.

@justhuman3977

7 жыл бұрын

History with Hilbert... here is a fun fact.. The house of orange has been a fake since 1711/12 when the last Oranje drowned.. Some one claimed the thrown and kept the name.. they were not Oranje.. This was the first hijacking of the monarchy.. The second hijacking happened after the Queen fled to England in may 1940.. Only to return in 1945 with a former SS and IG Farben member as Price of the Netherlands.. The Netherlands is not what people think it is..

@irondom

7 жыл бұрын

The irony is that the actual flag that was used by the Dutch during the 80 years war for independence, orange white and blue, aka the Prince's Flag, isn't actually allowed anymore for PC-Nazi reasons.

“I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.” - Abraham Lincoln, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1861 It is not wrong to defend your home against invaders; and that entity which was founded through rebellion by slave owners like Washington and Jefferson as well as tolerated slavery in the slave states that remained in the Union (Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, and Delaware) has no standing from which to judge the Confederacy. Nor does the president who assured the Northern public that freed slaves would be remigrated back to Africa. This was a time when the United Sates was still referred to as these United States. It was understood as a political union of sovereign states. Many had never even left their home state in their lifetimes. None would have agreed to enter this union if they had known it was a death pact from which they could never leave. “The State of Massachusetts has threatened, indeed, on four separate occasions to secede from the Union. First, in the debates referred to on the adjustment of the State debts; secondly, on the purchase of Louisiana and its admission into the Union; thirdly, during the war of 1813; and fourthly, on the annexation of Texas, when, we believe, one chamber of her legislature actually passed a vote of secession. On these occasions it was no mere act of excited individuals, but the general voice of the community. Yet this State is now the loudest in denouncing it, when inconvenient to herself; and a bastile is now said to be preparing in the vicinity of Boston, for the incarceration of those as political prisoners, who simply utter the opinions which, when it suited, this very State has so often and so vehemently expressed… In one of the debates in the New York State Convention, Hamilton made use of these words: ‘To coerce a State would be one of the maddest projects ever devised. No State would ever suffer itself to be used as the instrument of coercing another.’ His far-seeing description in the Federalist is but too applicable to the events of the present day; and remarkable it is that he, the master spirit of the Unionists, should have denounced as ‘madness’ that coercion which is adopted by his followers at the present day. 
 But there was a consideration of still higher import. The Constitution was a voluntary act, framed on the principles of free, mutual assent, and common belief in its advantages. To introduce force as a means of maintaining it, would be repugnant to these principles. It would be a commencement on the voluntary system, to be continued under compulsion. Force is an attribute of monarchy; the throne represents and wields the strength of the nation. Each part is subservient to the whole, and none can revolt without foreknowledge of this force to encounter and overthrow. But the basis of a Federal Republic is the reverse of all this. It stands upon consent, which is the abnegation of force. In place of submission of part to the whole, the parties are co-equal. Compulsion is not only inapplicable, but opposed to the principle of the system. And the men of that day were too logical to be unaware of this; they declined to incorporate with the structure they were rearing a principle directly antagonistic to it.” Excerpt from “The American Union: It’s Effect on National Character and Policy”(1862) by James Spence, an anti-slavery Englishman If there was a left wing secessionist movement a majority of liberals would probably support it (as they did support the Seattle “autonomous zone” in 2020.) In a 2021 YouGov survey nearly half of Californian democrats support their state seceding even with a liberal president in office, one can safely assume that number will rise if a Republican, especially Trump, gets back in office. Any attempt to force them to stay or occupy military installations on their land would be viewed by them as an act of imperialism and a betrayal to the US’s supposed democratic values. And they would be correct. A union can only exist between independent entities, and one that claims to rest on the democratic will of the people cannot legitimately force them to stay when they have democratically elected to leave that union. After the Civil War any claim that the US is a voluntary union that rules through the consent of the people is utterly hollow. “In front of every farm-house would be a large assemblage of whites and blacks, of all ages and assorted sizes. Our boys amused themselves by throwing “hard-tack” to them, and then what running and tumbling and scrambling would ensue! Little *blacks (not the original word used) and little whites, little dogs and big dogs, all joined in the race, and by the time the “hard-tack” was secured it was difficult to determine what were the original ingredients.” - a Union soldier stationed at Shreveport, Louisiana after the war “Hundreds of thousands of slaves freed during the American civil war died from disease and hunger after being liberated, according to a new book… [As] Downs shows in his book, Sick From Freedom, the reality of emancipation during the chaos of war and its bloody aftermath often fell brutally short of that positive image. Instead, freed slaves were often neglected by union soldiers or faced rampant disease, including horrific outbreaks of smallpox and cholera. Many of them simply starved to death… After combing through obscure records, newspapers and journals Downs believes that about a quarter of the four million freed slaves either died or suffered from illness between 1862 and 1870. He writes in the book that it can be considered “the largest biological crisis of the 19th century” and yet it is one that has been little investigated by contemporary historians… Many northerners were little more sympathetic than their southern opponents when it came to the health of the freed slaves and anti-slavery abolitionists feared the disaster would prove their critics right.” -The Guardian, June 16, 2012 “All things are subject to interpretation. That one interpretation prevails over another at any given time is a function of power, and not of truth” - Friedrich Nietzsche

@amazingbait26

Жыл бұрын

As a southerner, that's too much for me to read. All I know is if the Confederacy was actually racist, they probably would have said that white people were better than blacks at any point.

@Vettel2011

Жыл бұрын

@@amazingbait26 indeed

@amazingbait26

Жыл бұрын

@@Vettel2011 If we could read, the Confederate constitution would be very embarrassing. God bless southern education, brother.

@Vettel2011

Жыл бұрын

@@amazingbait26 Amen 🙏🏻

@Adsper2000

Жыл бұрын

Literally don’t give a fuck about any of this meaningless philosophical garbage. The destruction of the South’s aristocratic and elitist political structure, its inhuman and stagnant economic system, and its degenerate, medieval culture, was an objectively good thing. Not all cultures are equal. It’s hard to imagine a more putrid society than the Antebellum South, and its to everyone’s benefit that it doesn’t exist anymore.

As an eastern European, it seems like it comes from tradition. Lots of rural farming families with generational fraternity and nuanced customs developing. Monotonous lives. The meanings of things getting tied up together and also becoming a natural part of what existence means for you. All that - the good, the bad, the unrelated getting ripped out of your life because of something grand in a place that might as well not exist for you. Weird things happening around you for years without order or reason because of some kind of vague force. Over time it all just feels like an out of touch and worthless, rotten system. A strong position may not be perfect, but it is something that at least makes sense. And any bad part becomes directly related to just simple and basic parts of life. It all feels vague and directionlessly rotten. But also then fighting against it and hoping for some kind of representation becomes vague and directly practical for improving what existence even means for you

@williamchamberlain2263

Жыл бұрын

Yep

@Yanks123Fan

2 ай бұрын

Very eloquently said

Well you see, have you ever met that guy in his 40's talking about the big game he won in high school?

@jaredvillhelm2002

3 жыл бұрын

They couldn’t even win the war... I’m Southern born and the hard on southerners have for the CSA is despicable.

@Anglomachian

3 жыл бұрын

@Francis Marion married with children was set in the north, and so that means... what?

@flavortown289

3 жыл бұрын

@Francis Marion 😂Southern states are welfare states. They can’t survive on their own so they need the government’s help. For every dollar they give they receive twice that.

@Anglomachian

3 жыл бұрын

@Francis Marion What are you talking about? Are you confusing me for someone else and carrying on a conversation you were having with them? If not, why are you speaking gibberish?

@Anglomachian

3 жыл бұрын

@Francis Marion Get a life.

"Why is the South Obsessed with the Civil War?" Cuz we lost.

@JRobbySh

4 жыл бұрын

It was, in historical terms, not that long ago. When I was about nine, I hard my great aunts discussing some events of “The WAR” and they were not talking about World War II. I retain that sense of the nearness of those events.. Plus when you are as old as I, events eighty years in the past do not seem that long ago.

@GoDawgs18

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@GoDawgs18

4 жыл бұрын

Judy S. Dang youre lucky!

@gregorymacdonnell7914

4 жыл бұрын

LOL, well that was a short but accurate statement.I mean about losing the war, not why they clain that all southerners are obsessed with the war. I dont think ALL southerners are obsessed with it.

@mcarr3492

4 жыл бұрын

Judy S. The war, happily, only lasted 4 years but it *ended* 155 years ago. Thats a heck of a lot of time. Do you know what we invented since then? Guns went from muskets to full-auto ARs. Bombs didn’t even exist but today we can erase cities. Millions of people died in those 4 years. Let us not forget neither the event, nor the side that actually won.

America: "Noooooo we can't have that flag, it's associated with our racist past" Mongolia: "We'll name everything here after the second biggest mass murderer in history and sing songs in his praise"

@moritamikamikara3879

2 жыл бұрын

The HU are also good.

@sudanipropagandist6214

2 жыл бұрын

The thing is he actually lasted more than 10 years

@__mindflayer__

2 жыл бұрын

Ngl. I know this is a meme but I think it’s a bad example of the two. One side lost which was the CSA during the American civil war that tried to leave a union making one of its justifications of leaving based around slavery. Another side conquered territory through major victories and made an established dominion for centuries even after the death of a Khan. Which is obviously the Mongolian Empire. Plus, you’re comparing two vastly different time periods and eras of where human morals are drastically seen differently.

@lasersharksushi1975

2 жыл бұрын

@@sudanipropagandist6214 nah that's the runner up. Stalin and Mao both killed lore than the fashie tards.

@luana.desousa6398

2 жыл бұрын

@@__mindflayer__ it's not about time periods it's about winning or losing. If the south won the flag would never have it's bad meaning today. The winners write history.

Fort Sumter was in "Confederate occupied Virginia?" I'm pretty sure fort Sumter is in Charleston Harbor, South Carolina. Correct me if I am wrong.

@johnnylongstroke7413

3 жыл бұрын

I heard that and I almost fell out of my chair ... This guy doesn't know shit.

@whazzat8015

3 жыл бұрын

Schoolin' not a strong suit here

@savanahmclary4465

3 жыл бұрын

Charleston, South Carolina! Is one of the Oldest PORT CITIES on North America. Fort Sumter is an island that sits a mile, in the Inlet in the Atlantic Ocean, where the Ashley River and the Cooper River comes together. The Sumter Island protects ships coming and going to Charleston, SC HARBOR... And has since the beginning of TIME... Long before North America was ever the USA.. And the Sumter Island started being used by the FIRST "Common Wealth," Families, as a protecting island...And there is numerous islands, located here, that bears, these original Southern Families names.

@msquaretheoriginal

3 жыл бұрын

@@savanahmclary4465 I've been there.

@savanahmclary4465

3 жыл бұрын

@@msquaretheoriginal My nephew and his associates used to run their nuclear sub, in and out of there and up the Ashley.

Being raised in the south the civil war was spoke about as if it were some recent event... this was in the 1980's many adults used the term Yankee to describe anyone who was not from the south..

@Sally150

3 жыл бұрын

I still use Yankee, only you need to add B***ard :) But most northerners' descendants weren't even here during the Civil War.

@CrimsonRaven51

3 жыл бұрын

I’m from Chicago and growing up, we learned nothing of the Civil war except the lie that it was fought to free the slaves. Learned the truth later in mid 60s.

@CrimsonRaven51

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sally150 I thought it was damned Yankees. Or is that a Yankee that re located from the north to take up residence in the south?

@thomaswayneward

3 жыл бұрын

Still do. Like one man said; "I was 25 before I knew damnyankee was two words".

@sandwich434

3 жыл бұрын

@@CrimsonRaven51 The Civil War was undoubtably about slavery. I’m sure there were economic motives as well, but as it stands the Civil War was mainly about slavery. Lincoln was elected as a member of the Republican Party, that party was formed by abolitionists. Southerners saw his victory as an attack on their slaves. They seceded from the Union in order to maintain slavery. Lincoln didn’t want them to, thus Civil War. How did tensions get so high? Things like Bleeding Kansas and the Missouri Compromise, both of which were about slavery. Stop spreading lies. The Civil War was about slavery. Upon the Emancipation Proclamation, Lincoln denounced all slavery in Confederate States.

I'm a child of the South born in the 1950s. The reason I clicked on this is because I asked my mother the same question as the title of this video in the 1970s. I had noticed the obsession and asked her to explain it. Her answer was: "That's the only war we lost." You can dissect that answer on so many levels (which I'm not going to attempt to do here).

@XDragonightxX

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a really interesting point! I’ve never heard of that being used as a reason before I clicked on this video and scrolled through the comments.

@lightpad1360

3 жыл бұрын

In a civil war - each side loses

@kcoup1626

3 жыл бұрын

So ... Vietnam was a win???

@XDragonightxX

3 жыл бұрын

@@kcoup1626 Vietnam War ended in 1975. Guy could have asked his mother before it ended...

@SRosenberg203

3 жыл бұрын

@@XDragonightxX Yeah but even by 1970 I feel like it was pretty clear that the US wasn't going to come out of that one on top...

As someone who grew up in Georgia, Confederate sympathy and reverence is still very much a thing. I can even remember in elementary school, Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson were framed almost as war heroes and noble generals when we learned about the Civil War.

@SU1C1D3xPR4D4

Жыл бұрын

They were both heroes and some of the best generals the US institutions ever produced. The invasion of the south was so lop-sided it’s actually hilarious it took 300,000+ dead union soldiers to crush a session movement lol

@ebruceii

Жыл бұрын

@@SU1C1D3xPR4D4 Heroes? Really? You spelled "traitorous scumbags" wrong.

@SU1C1D3xPR4D4

Жыл бұрын

@@ebruceii so George Washington et al were traitorous scumbags too then I suppose. They’re heroes. Don’t like it, leave.

@TheNightWatcher1385

Жыл бұрын

@@ebruceii They fought for their states who had voted to secede and secession was not declared illegal until 1869. So how can they be traitors to a country they’re not a part of?

@tw0thousandgaming558

Жыл бұрын

I mean idk about “hero’s” but they both were amazing generals when it came to leading troops and strategy

As I was growing up my aunt had a really good friend originally from Alabama. She once told me, "The Civil war isn't over yet, we're still waiting for supplies." LOL

@SvenDzahov

3 жыл бұрын

The crazy thing is many southerns do believe this

@natejohnson7601

2 жыл бұрын

These people are straight morons

@CHman712

2 жыл бұрын

Senile old fools lol. Those treasonous bastards got what was coming to them.

3:35 - Fort Sumter is in South Carolina, not Virginia.

@Andrescxli

5 жыл бұрын

John Grit What the fuck are you talking about??? Its in SC stop talking all that bullshit

@Andrescxli

5 жыл бұрын

Sinister ones Alucard What the fuck are you on about, IM TALKING ABOUT FORT SUMTER, NOT VA AND WVA.. Tf???

@jamesbagwell5120

5 жыл бұрын

@John Grit my state of South Carolina became a state on May 23, 1788, well before the war of Northern Aggression. And we were the first to secede!

@jamesbagwell5120

5 жыл бұрын

@@Andrescxli exactly, that guy must be a dumb Yankee

@jamesbagwell5120

5 жыл бұрын

@John Grit North Carolina also was a Confederate state. What country are you from?

I didn’t know Alabama’s flag was a confederate flag, I always thought it was just a reference to the old Spanish flag since it used to be a colony (part of it used to be a colony)

@brookethebaron9270

3 жыл бұрын

You are thinking of Florida.

@jduke6793

3 жыл бұрын

Well it is actually based off of St Andrew's flag and St Patrick's flag

@thatsaboat2882

3 жыл бұрын

@@brookethebaron9270 no I’m pretty sure like a part of southern Alabama actually was a Spanish colony not all of Alabama though

@Gabeking88

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatsaboat2882 mobile and Darwin county

@Karthagast

3 жыл бұрын

You are partially right. About the flag: Alabama's flag seem to be St. Andrew's Cross in its version of red cross over white field. That is coincidental, at some extent, with the so called Burgundy Cross that was the flag of the Spanish Army for centuries. Note: until the last decades of the 18th century there was no notion of "national flag" in many countries, so their respective army's and navy's flag acted as such instead. About Alabama being part of the Spanish Empire: Not so much, in fact only the coast of Alabama was part of the Spanish Empire. It formed what was called Western Florida, together with the coast of Mississippi and the westernmost part of current state of Florida. The rest of the current state of Florida (the penninsula itself) was called Eastern Florida at the time of the Spanish Empire. Link to an accurate depiction of the Spanish Army's flag during the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries -> st.gonzoo.es/img/2016/10/21030_967_544.jpg?1477559067

“Why is the south obsessed with the civil war” CAUSE THEY FUCKIN LOST LMAOOOOOOOOOO

As someone watching this from far far away, the aftermath seems familiar. Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam etc., people reduced to poverty, scorched earth destruction of infrastructure and capital assets, opportunistic "carpet baggers" flocking in like carrion birds to profiteer from reconstruction. Its odd to learn that the US practiced on itself first.

@jonathanpatten8703

Жыл бұрын

thats a pretty accurate assessment. the federal government has only gotten worse.

@shoelessbandit1581

Жыл бұрын

Practiced on itself really is the best way to describe it lol. It was also at this point that the federal government realized they can get away with anything without consequence which is why the federal government is as powerful as it is today

@cyceryx

Жыл бұрын

We had to be sure it worked before we started vaporizing third world countries for our own financial gain

@LordFloofTM

Жыл бұрын

We practiced on Mexico before that, and you can go all the way back to Tripolitania at the turn of the 19th century.

@blakefrazier9991

Жыл бұрын

@@shoelessbandit1581 do you think the South was right?

Northern most Southern states: We're gonna leave so that these Union troops don't march across our states to do battle in the south. Union troops: Okay. We'll just do our battle right here then. Northern southern states: No wait.

@rb032682

4 жыл бұрын

@Zack - Good one. 👍

@vivians9392

4 жыл бұрын

The South was the part of America that had the beauty of the land; wide open spaces, huge plantations, hanging gardens, agriculture, farming, thoroughbred horse ranches. The North was the overpopulated, industrialized part of the country, with most education, arts available and businesses. The north and south are as different as our weather patterns, because the country is so huge.

@ogr8bearded175

4 жыл бұрын

@@vivians9392 Actually most of the colleges and Universities were in the South.

@rb032682

4 жыл бұрын

@@vivians9392 - Are you attempting to justify terrorism because they had "farms"?

@HenryVandenburgh

4 жыл бұрын

@@rb032682 This is the type of contemporary attitude I called out above.

As a US Southerner, I can tell you why I've always been so interested in the Civil War... I've always been interested in history, particularly military history, and quite frankly here in America we just don't have a lot of it to begin with. There's the pre-revolution period which is really just more European history, extended. There's the Revolutionary war, which I've always liked reading about, but that was limited to the East coast. So unless you're from there, it can still feel a bit disconnected. Like a French person reading about Rome. Then there's the War of 1812, which always felt like Revolutionary War the sequel. And that's pretty much it, outside of the Civil War. The two World Wars, Korea, Vietnam, etc, none of those happened here. Interesting to read about yes, but hard to find a personal connection to. With the Civil War, by the time that war started much more of the US had been developed and brought into statehood. It wasn't just limited to one tiny area along the east coast. The events that took place happened right here, in places where we still live. We have ancestors that took part in it, sometimes on both sides of the conflict. We can still visit the battlefields, in many cases not far from the places we live. There's a more personal connection that you can't get from reading about events that happened on another continent. To top that off, it was a major turning point in American history and had significant consequences that resulted from it. It was a very complex and interesting time period, with industrial and technological advancements taking place that added more fuel to the fire, so to speak. Lastly, there's the photographs. Photography was just coming in to play. No longer were we looking at artistic interpretations. It was the first major conflict that we got to see in all of it's grim reality. Actual photographs of the people involved. This is why I've always been so interested in it. It's a fascinating piece of American history to me.

@michaelgreene7385

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed, well said, very well said

@yorinty

5 жыл бұрын

You just hit the nail right on the head! Example; of my 8 great grand fathers, 2 were Union soldiers, 3 were Confederate soldiers, 2 were not soldiers and 1 was a Comanche fighting Mexicans and Texicans!

@schlopsker.mp5

4 жыл бұрын

And heritage of course! I am proud of my ancestors.

@Adonnus100

4 жыл бұрын

Not much history, you say? As an Australian I envy the amount of history you have :)

@JKinder313

4 жыл бұрын

Actually the Crimean War was the first major conflict photographed but yeah... Proud Southerner here and well said otherwise. I'm a Jeffersonian Democrat. The Confederate Constitution was an American experiment into self-government. Very special.

As a descendant of Confederate soldiers I think you are spot on. My family settled here in 1765 and move across the southern lands. Great video!

@lordjesus238

2 жыл бұрын

So you're new comers then. Give it a few more generations and you might become a local.

@enriqueperezarce5485

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordjesus238 What the 18th century is newcomers and I though I was a new comer I’m literally 2nd generation

@wanderingtwin1900

2 жыл бұрын

you do realize most people didn't own slaves and white people, irish and prisoners of all colors were slaves , in fact the same corporate owners of today were the slave owners and corporate ownres of yesterday, the civil war was not the huge event you have been taught, in fact many grand buildings, hospitals, schools, and government buildings were being erected, along with world fairs, and cities were being built during this so called war, not very much evidence exsist to support it was a civil war, in fact it seems more like it was the same as ww1 and ww2 a war to just destroy a history they do not want you to know about. Its time to wake up, could you afford to own and run a slave and a slave family today? Most people would have to say no, becasue if you could own slaves you would have to own a corporation and be able to provide for them. Think about what it takes to care for a family, add 5 or 10 or 25 slaves, how much money would it take for you to own them, feed them, house them?

@KaasIsLekker

2 жыл бұрын

@@wanderingtwin1900 its so funny iam not even american but no this statement is so wrong. No people of other skin colors where slaves only blacks. You had something called indentured servitude wich was basically a contract of usually 5 to max 10 and in some states 20 years where somoene who couldnt pay his loans back would work instead. The person was not forced to sign the contract and there where many laws on the treatement of those people wich wasnt for blacks

@casematecardinal

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordjesus238 oh so you're an annoying twat. Give it a few more generations and your genes may hopefully not exist.

A excellent unbiased summarisation of a tricky subject .well done

"free labor" dude you can just say slavery, there's literally no difference.

@anjetto1

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. This is a pro confederacy video

@Spudeaux

3 жыл бұрын

That caught me off guard a bit as well, but actually, there is a difference - slaves are owned and/or managed as property. Prisoners, indentured servants, serfs, you could even say volunteers and unpaid interns perform or have performed free labor, but they are not owned, so it's not slavery in those cases.

@Jaded42O

3 жыл бұрын

@@Spudeaux “It’s like slavery, but technically” doesn’t that sound bad to you? There’s NO difference, people just invented another way to oppress and calling it something different doesn’t change the truth. Technical or otherwise....

@mzimmerle

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but he also says slavery a million times so what’s your point?

@bjblade307

3 жыл бұрын

@@anjetto1 How is this pro confederacy? It’s history!

I’m obsessed with the civil war and I’m up North. Why? Because I love history Edit 1: 15 words give you 1k+ likes

@Ricky911_

5 жыл бұрын

Well said

@THEEchampagnepapi

5 жыл бұрын

Also watching the entire state of Georgia burn down would be quite the cathartic experience

@aB-dw9td

5 жыл бұрын

@@THEEchampagnepapi .....fuck you the only states that need to burn are blue states

@inactiveaccount609

5 жыл бұрын

@@THEEchampagnepapi someone needs to take a chill pill😇

@Gamer-ty6co

5 жыл бұрын

a B nah man, only Georgia, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, and Arkansas need to be burned to the ground. It’d be useless to burn down states like California, Oregon, and Washington since it already happens every summer! Florida is gonna sink, plus who gives a shit about the most other states? Louisiana, New York, the Cowboy state, and the pub state are allowed to stay though.

I truly appreciated your opinion about "Why the South is Obsessed the Civil War". It made perfect sense because I've heard that view point before. Well thought out, spoken calmly. Thanks

The south calls it the war of northern aggression yet they fired the first shot. Ironic don't you think?

@benjaminaraya8073

3 жыл бұрын

It truly is ironic to claim the other side started the war when they fired first.

@royriley6282

3 жыл бұрын

Literally no one calls it that and the South doesnt call anything anything because it is not a person. It's not even a culture.

@mikkitoro8933

3 жыл бұрын

@@royriley6282 If you google "What does the south call the civil war" it indeed says that they call it that.

@mikkitoro8933

3 жыл бұрын

@@MikesAffectionateMelodies It was more like someone shot you so you broke in and burnt their house in retaliation.

3 жыл бұрын

@@royriley6282 Nah bro, I agree with everything here, but the south definitely has different culture than the north.

what are you talking about? im not obsessed. *takes off confederate uniform*

@amkrause2004

5 жыл бұрын

Lol. Good one.

@inactiveaccount609

5 жыл бұрын

Literally me

@Gamer-ty6co

5 жыл бұрын

Hah, so obsessed. Oh shit where did this Union Soldier uniform come from??

@BRoyce69

5 жыл бұрын

Even if 'you aren't obsessed' the conservative ways of lawmakers, and attitude of southerners are still influenced by the Confederate beliefs. Like Texas trying to execute people whove had abortions, the rampant southern racism towards anything but white, and then there just the general demeanor of them thinking their superior.... The south as a whole seems like their stuck on the civil war era mentality because they lost and can't get over it

@FriendlyTickleMonster

5 жыл бұрын

They got us in the first half not going to lie

As someone from Mississippi, I never really thought about why everyone was obsessed with the Confederate flag. I was living out my childhood, playing video games but as I got older, around 11 and 12 I started to take notice around what was the big deal about the Confederate flag and why everyone seemed to be obsessed. I didn't want to ask my family about it so I decided to ask my grandma, who lives in Florida. She told me this: "Because the south is just mad about losing the war". I agree.

@thekorsh4230

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah they wanted to keep black people enslaved, and be dirty rich at the same time, slavey was the main reason why America got that big boost to get that super power status and also invention that the slaves created was stolen from their white masters sad system

@alamo0243

3 жыл бұрын

@@thekorsh4230 it’s crazy because all though slavery has been around for 1000s of years, the “most free” country was the last to abolish it.

@davidwebb8217

3 жыл бұрын

@@alamo0243 No it wasn't the last. Look up New Zealand and slavery still exists today.

@harrisontaylor3751

3 жыл бұрын

Your grandma lied to you son

@FH-cn3mg

3 жыл бұрын

@@alamo0243 WTF are you talking about? Slavery is still alive in well in countries all around the world.

3:21 “I have an idea, instead of letting northern troops pass through our state to fight the Confederates, why don’t we fucking join the Confederacy that way our state becomes the frontline of the war instead?” Wtf lol

@savanahmclary4465

3 жыл бұрын

The question is: Why were American of one state marching the American troops through another American State...I thought the USA was a "Constitutional REPUBLIC?" All States Representatives had a say in their GOVERNMENT.

@CC-8891

3 жыл бұрын

@@savanahmclary4465 it probably has something to do with the bombarding of fucking Ft. Sumter. You know, a US military base? Lol.

@savanahmclary4465

3 жыл бұрын

@@CC-8891 So, you believe that: The Northern States Representatives, in the Congress had the "RIGHT" to DENY the Southern States Representatives participation, in the LAW MAKING process? That the Southern States should be ORDERED, by the Northern States, to pay a tax on Commodities, that does Not apply to Northern States? THAT THE SOUTHERN STATES REPRESENTATIVES HAD NO SAY, IN THE MAKING OF THE Commodities Tarrif LAW? That it was RIGHT for Lincoln to send Northern Ship, to the port of Charleston, SC to collect that Tarrif. And to blockade that Port and hurt SOUTH CAROLINAS ECONOMY! Was South Carolina owned by the Northern States Representatives? Or did it belong to the Draytons,and the Middletons? Why was it so IMPORTANT THAT THE NORTHERN STATES HAD TO CONTROL THE SOUTHERN STATES? IN A "REPUBLIC?" You believe that the Wealthy Southerners WEALTH should be taken from them at gun point?

@germanshepherd2701

3 жыл бұрын

@@savanahmclary4465 1) the north did not deny the south participation. The south literally tried seceded from the union and 7 southern states and their senators left congress BEFORE the increased tariffs were even voted on. Aka: THEY THEMSELVES LITERALLY REFUSED TO PARTICIPATE AND DIDN’T WANT A SAY. (and they lost the fight in the House before that, too bad). 2) the tariffs, of course, did apply to northern states as well. In fact, the port of New York accounted for about 2/3 of federal revenue (back then tariffs was the primary revenue source for the federal gov) in at least the five years leading up to the war, and that’s not even taking into account other major northern cities and ports. 3) yes, it was okay for Lincoln, the literal commander in Chief, to send an AMERICAN ship to an American state to help enforce American law. 4) ohhhh so all of a sudden the people who fucking owned human beings as fucking chattel property cared about people trampling on them? HAHAHAHAHA no one gives a fuck bro. You cannot be that delusionally and hypocritically retarded. Imagine supporting slavery southerner and then getting mad because congress fair and square voted to collect duties which actually mostly came from the North. When you literally own ppl as property and strip them of their human rights, no one gives a fuck about your opinion or feelings and rightfully so. If anything, southern slavers were lucky they weren’t completely eradicated or imprisoned and essentially forced into slavery themselves through the constitutional prison loophole. That would’ve been fair in my eyes.

@savanahmclary4465

3 жыл бұрын

@@germanshepherd2701 Yes, they did... The Northern States, would always hold the majority, in the GOVERNMENT. That is why the forefathers made the USA a "Republic," with a voting arrangement to accomadate the Southern States, as a minority. It takes something like 63% of the vote to pass a bill. Not 50%. (Its not the Majority VOTE that RULES ) And the "Constitutional Protocol" "Requires" EVERY STATES REPRESENTATIVES MUST CAST A VOTE, ONE WAY, OR THE OTHER. On every BILL... FOR IT TO BECOME LAW.. And with the Northern States Representatives passed the Morrill Tarrif bill, with only Northern States Representatives voting... It goes against the "Constitution Protocol." And this had been going on since Andrew Jacksons' days. No 13% of Southern States Representatives are going to vote FOR a Tariff on their own states Commodities. Different States Representatives, that was in the Congress, at that time have records of this. You even seen this in the second Trump impeachment hearings. When Chief Justice John Roberts required all States Representatives to be PRESENT and there to vote. This is the same problem the USA has right now: With wanting to kill the filibuster... to change the Constitution. Make the USA A "DEMOCRACY."

This is probably the most fair and accurate analysis of this subject.

Oklahoma is in a weird state. We get grouped into the south when talking about the cival war, southern heritage, and race issues when we had nothing to do with it. We were still just an Indian territory. Even when the land run happened, we got people from all different backgrounds, and most people haven’t been here for more than just a couple generations. We have our own problems, but the confederacy was not one of them. Edit 7months later: I should probably clarify that I know that many Natives fought for the South, but many also fought for the North. This comment was still pretty stupid though. My point was just that Oklahoma never joined the CSA Edit: how do I still get comments on this post

@calebmacmoyer4450

4 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily true. Oklahoma had Confederate units during the civil war just like Missouri did even though it wasn't technically part of the CSA. My family has been living in Oklahoma since before it's statehood in the 1880s and 1890s, and many of them were Confederate veterans living in the Eastern half from Ottawa county to Pottawatomie County. We've still got a Family burial plot in the cemetery in Keokuk Falls.

@jshsnipa

4 жыл бұрын

Their were also natives who fought for the Union. Oklahoma was divided as tribes took both sides of the war. In general though, it did not play a major part in the war. Most people who live here now have no ancestors that fought in the war

@calebmacmoyer4450

4 жыл бұрын

@@jshsnipa True, I suppose, but theres always going to be people in Oklahoma who are loyal to it due to the economic and cultural impact it had when it was dissolved.

@jshsnipa

4 жыл бұрын

You are right about that, I’m not sure how much the collapse of the confederacy affected Oklahoma, but the loyalty to the confederacy may be people from the south moving to Oklahoma to try and get a better life. Or it is just that fact that we see ourselves as southerners (at least a lot of us)

@calebmacmoyer4450

4 жыл бұрын

@@jshsnipa I know my ancestors were in Tennessee and Arkansas fighting for the Confederacy during the war and moved to Oklahoma about 20 years after it ended. However, even people like them hold loyalty to the CSA because it was the last time they had a good quality of life and good paying work, and since they now see Oklahoma as part of their bloodline and cultural tapestry, they likely lump it into a group of states that would make an expanded new CSA, or what they view could have been a confederate state.

The obsession is the feeling of losing the war.

Interesting vid. I'm not even sure how I got here but here I am at 6:00 am watching it. My opinions aside, I think this was pretty well done and I appreciated the context.

Long haired freaky person from Texas here, and my ancestor came over in 1625, as an indentured servant because the English had taken everything he had in Ireland. I'm pretty sure that I had slave owning ancestors, and I am less than proud of that. The fact is, the whole thing was about slavery. No matter how else anyone tries to spin it, the issue has always been slavery. I am lucky enough to have been taught history before the current culture wars, so I know that the so-called Confederacy was nothing more than a lame-ass play to keep slavery as an institution in the South, and it failed. Those people were traitors, and I at least can see that.

I always find it surprising how many Confederate flags I see living in WV. Most of it is in the southern side of the state, but even growing up in the northern part of the state, I still see flags being displayed.

@lolitabubbles26

3 жыл бұрын

Even stranger considering West Virginia became a state because they were done with the state's Confederate BS. They also voted blue in most elections to protect the mining unions until 2016. People forget their past. It's sad.

@polishherowitoldpilecki5521

3 жыл бұрын

@@lolitabubbles26 No it was a coup, most in West Virginia particularly the south favored staying with original Virginia. But Lincoln had already stationed thousand of Union soldiers in West Virginia.

@trentk268

3 жыл бұрын

That's because of terrible presidents like Barack Obama. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIaFsdWIXdPMmrA.html

@davidesparza3637

3 жыл бұрын

@@trentk268 lol what? Obama wasn't that bad. Just admit that the people who fly confederate flags are racist. A black president really triggered them

@solidsnake6405

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidesparza3637 that's bs.ive lived in the south my whole life and have yet to see a single racist event take place. Ive heard plenty of jokes growing up,but those same people telling them I also saw feed,house,and Literally street fight for the very ones they were joking about. You seem to believe that racist= hate but that's not true down south,we are all family down here and when you fuck with one of us you fuck with us all!!! What we say about and to one another is family business,something you Yankees do not understand..

The Alabama flag is actually not based off the Confederate flag or the 60th infantry battle flag. it is actually st. Andrew's flag.

@davidbates8295

4 жыл бұрын

It would be similar to the old Spanish flag that once flew when they owned parts of the new world.

@alvallac2171

4 жыл бұрын

*based off

@tutex119

4 жыл бұрын

Isn't that the cross of saint patrick? And the same flag as northern ireland?

@SidheKnight

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidbates8295 That one would be the Cross of Burgundy, which is a variant of St. Andrew's Cross.

@dogbean5015

4 жыл бұрын

@@musicaddict4214 it's not saint Andrew's it's the spanish cross of burgandy

This video has some very logical points. Thank you for sharing.

Just came across this video, As someone who is from the south grew up in florida an lived as a kid in the richer cities of Jacksonville Florida an now living in the rual parts as an adult. I can say this video has aged quite well as the ideas you bring forth is why I look at my southern heratige fondly. not because of the slavery debate of the civil war but because i am poorer then northerners an looked as stupid from my calluges from the north.

@viysnjor4811

2 жыл бұрын

I've lived in Georgia, Tennessee, California, and Colorado, and it's surprising to me that people outside the south are by far more hateful and callous on average than those in the south.

This actually makes so much sense. I’m from Texas and honestly you don’t see as many southern flags here as the rest of the south, but now I know it’s just because we as a state just have something better to celebrate. Our own revolution. That’s why I have a republic of Texas flag, come and take it flag, and normal Texas flag hanging in my room.

@proud_tobe_texan2890

3 жыл бұрын

Hey I'm from Texas too I live in Orange County bout to get some snow and some of the coldest temps on record

@AF-bh5ol

3 жыл бұрын

I really want those flags and a confederate flag, I hav have a small American flag which I enjoy putting next to my desk

@chickenman5477

3 жыл бұрын

@@AF-bh5ol epic

@chickenman5477

3 жыл бұрын

@@AF-bh5ol i only have an American flag but I would like a Confederate Battle Flag, a Gadsden flag, or a come take it flag with the AR-15.

@khirywiley5937

3 жыл бұрын

Eh; my personal perspective is why ultimately stop at the Confederate flag. What about the flag waved during the Vietnam war which had 48 stars at the time; or the first real american Confederate flag that had 34 stars on it. Or the 1777 American flag. I just think it's an excuse to deflect from one's ignorance. Ofc that's my opinion 🤷🏿‍♂️

Quick correction: you said Fort Sumter was in Virginia, it is actually in Charleston, South Carolina. I lived briefly in Charleston, and it was strange to live looking over at the place where your nations’ darkest days unfolded.

@jimbobcutter849

3 жыл бұрын

Click "SHOW MORE" under the video.

@mervyngreene6687

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. That was driving me crazy.

@CaneFu

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, I've been to Fort Sumter but there was noting dark about the fort itself as that was a Federal fort (the good guys) and it simply got attacked by Confederates. I think you have it backwards as the real darkness started on the land you were standing on when you looked across the water at the Fort as the city of Charleston was the hub of the slave trade. I've been to the Market area and seen the numerous buildings where slaves were auctioned off, now a tourist area...that's where the real evil was and America's darkest days, NOT at Fort Sumter.

@chrispruitt5877

3 жыл бұрын

Even the idiot that created this video didn’t know his history. SAD!!!!!

@davidwebb8217

3 жыл бұрын

@@CaneFu The darkest days were when the north was running the slave trade and sailing the slave ships.

Without watching i'll say this first, Americans in the South have a deep feeling of their perceived freedom. The Civil War is when they took control of themselves, irony of it all is they wanted slavery which is the exact opposite of freedom

@johoreanperson8396

2 жыл бұрын

Slavery for me but not fo thee

@atbdragnar3348

2 жыл бұрын

@@johoreanperson8396 democrats to a tee

Its in session letters. It's spelled out in each of the confederate states session letters. What's the problem?

Me as a southerner seeing the title: “You’ve really picked a dangerous topic haven’t ya?”

@rb032682

4 жыл бұрын

Why do you consider "facts" to be dangerous? Do you fear the truth?

@sparrowpelt20xx61

4 жыл бұрын

RB Bless you’re heart... Look, I get you want to get in an argument about morals and the civil war. And while I could choose to engage in such a discussion, I would first like to point out that my comment simply meant that such a sensitive subject was gonna start huge flame wars in the comment section.

@isaacmartinez2359

4 жыл бұрын

Sparrowpelt 20XX With war no one really completely wins especially without doing wrong

@stevemiller7563

4 жыл бұрын

@wowalinbie sure sure sure simple huh

@stevemiller7563

4 жыл бұрын

soory... that one was for wowalinbie

I took American History in North Carolina. They referred to it as "The war of northern aggression". It wasn't until adulthood that I learned that term was a Lost Cause term. I also had many relatives in Arkansas who thought I was "a yankee" for moving to NORTH Carolina--so not the best of education systems here.

@sleepdeep305

3 жыл бұрын

That’s crazy. Being from the north I had no idea stuff like that even existed. Truly, teaching about a war is often heavily biased, depending on which side of it you were on.

@salemkitty5786

3 жыл бұрын

Oh dang. Wow. As a Pennsylvanian and a New Jersian.. that’s surprising

@Dave_A41

3 жыл бұрын

I had relatives in Arkansas that fought for the Union

@solidsnake6405

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder why the education system isn't very good down south.could it possibly be to the Victor go the spoils of war?? Maybe the south was ransacked for the past 150+ years by the federal government.

@solidsnake6405

3 жыл бұрын

@Yankee Forever lived in the south my whole life and have never seen that. But I have had cops put guns to my head,beat my ass for back talking,and Harass me for no good reason. None of that is a race issue.

As a southerner, this is spot on. Great video!

You can't claim you were invaded when you started the shooting

It’s because it’s the last time something relevant happened here

@mycodenameism4331

3 жыл бұрын

Have you been looking around lately? We’ve been on international news quite a few times.

@tjeduards3802

3 жыл бұрын

@@mycodenameism4331 Well, I don't know if it's something to rejoice in being seen as idiots by all the world

@fishboymbb

3 жыл бұрын

You also forget Walmart was made in arkansas

@juniorcrusher2245

3 жыл бұрын

@@mycodenameism4331 international? Im european and thelast time ive ever heard anything about the south was charlottsville and was for a day. The only thing i know about the south is confedacy. Youre really not that relevant anywhere

@mattcopernicus1140

3 жыл бұрын

@@juniorcrusher2245 as a northerner i can tell you that everybody in their right mind who lives in the north is trying to figure out a way to move to the south (or west) because it's better. the north has been destroyed by unions who destroyed the working class through insane demands of high wages and low productivity.

Some call it The War of Northern Aggression which never made sense to me. After all it was the Confederacy who shot first and started the war when they attacked Fort Sumter.

@williamsorrells6058

4 жыл бұрын

Might want to dig into the fort Sumter story a bit more, something sparked that attack and it consisted of troops from that fort having to good a time in the local southern town

@thepolishlatinofromphilly9709

4 жыл бұрын

Because southerners have a weird persecution complex.

@jordinagel1184

4 жыл бұрын

William Sorrells the first shot fired was still from the Southerners. Hence, by definition, it wasn’t a war of northern aggression (and if you point to the fact that the Union aggressively pushed into the South later, keep in mind that ww2 isn’t called “The war of Allied aggression” either, not even in Germany)

@williamsorrells6058

4 жыл бұрын

@@jordinagel1184 I wasn't trying to correct what the war was called, nor who shot first, what I was pointing out was the match that set off the powder ceg. When tensions runs high it doesn't take much to cause a fight

@fallenicarus2685

4 жыл бұрын

Ft. Sumter was owned an operated by South Carolina until the start of the war. By being in that fort and refusing to turn it over the Union was on foreign soil

The harder you try to take a belief or beliefs away from a people or combination of people, the harder they will cling to it or have underground groups that will practice and continue to do so. If you leave it rest it usually disappears in to obscurity.

Really good!!

"I believe it is my right, not the right of people like me who just live farther away, to not allow others their rights" -Not every southerner, but the rich aristocrats who ran the Southern economy

@ramadansteve1715

3 жыл бұрын

And every poor southerner who fought for the aristocrats

@dehydratedwater90

3 жыл бұрын

@@ramadansteve1715 or basically anybody who used the state's rights euphemism

@caribman10

3 жыл бұрын

...pretty much all southerners, really.....

@TheMonkeytrumpetz

3 жыл бұрын

@@dehydratedwater90 No, their argument was one that was based entirely around the constitutionality of slavery and the federal government’s power over interstate commerce.

@monsieurdorgat6864

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheMonkeytrumpetz Well gee, I wonder which specific interstate commerce they were hoping to deny federal control over. What commodity wasn't allowed in the north but was allowed in the south? Really gotta put my thinking cap on for this one.

Long story short. Daughters of the Confederacy.

@jaywilliams8730

4 жыл бұрын

teddybruscie what are the daughters of the confederacy

@russelljames5631

4 жыл бұрын

Jay Williams they kept the confederacy alive and successfully altered history and the way the confederacy was viewed for generations.

@commonsenseamerica1685

4 жыл бұрын

Facts

@Spongebrain97

4 жыл бұрын

@@russelljames5631 I wouldn't mind there being historical monuments to southern generals or battlefields but the daughters of the confederacy and key figures like Woodrow Wilson basically tried to rewrite history by downplaying slavery and making heroes out of guys who literally fought to preserve that institution

@russelljames5631

4 жыл бұрын

Creepy Closet I just feel like why are we celebrating traitors and people who fought to continue slavery? Why immortalize them? We don’t do this with any other enemy we don’t even do this with people who fought against it and a lot of those statues and flags were put up during the 60s to fight desegregation.

Seem like the whole country is obsessed with it, not just the south.

@PalmettoNDN

3 жыл бұрын

You clearly haven't lived in the South.

@coreysmithsvt

3 жыл бұрын

@@PalmettoNDN South Carolina born and raised. I didn’t say the south wasn’t obsessed.

While I'm sure the war itself (and scorched-earth methods) is a factor, I'm also pretty sure that the loss of slavery as a viable economic option is the primary factor driving southern poverty -- for 150 years southern businesses have had to compete with those in the north (or elsewhere in the world) on a level playing field and they simply can't financially recover enough to match their northern counterparts. I'm not really sure that even in another 150 years they'll have poverty levels matching the north -- not without a substantial redistribution of wealth ... a second reconstruction of a sort.

@Arcaryon

Жыл бұрын

This is an imo. horrific realisation when looking at history - that often times, events that occurred centuries ago and seem entirely removed from our current world still have a gigantic impact on our modern era - because our modern values exist on top of an ocean of blood spilt by ruthless pragmatists and it makes many discussions feel incredibly shallow. Brutal conquerors often laid the very foundations of our fairly luxurious existence and one can not help but to start to become more and more like them when one understands the tides governing our progress.

Why me, an italian, am obsessed with the ACW?

@colonelgoodstep

5 жыл бұрын

Im Italian too.... and of course South is Better !! But im not onsessed lol

@Fluffy52600

5 жыл бұрын

I can relate. Half Arkansas southerner, a quarter Sicilian, and a quarter Ohioan. I have no Union ancestors, but I do have Confederate and Klan ancestors. But then again, the other side of my family tree didn't immigrate to New England until the Great War era.

@goofy2126

5 жыл бұрын

Why not?

@JamesMartinelli-jr9mh

4 жыл бұрын

Gabriele Selva Try watching 'The Confederate Borbonics' - volunteers from the Kingdom of the 2 Sicilies. Almost 2,000 volunteered and entered the Confederacy at New Orleans circa 1861.

@lewistaylor2858

4 жыл бұрын

@Zachary Menking ehh I think there is a bit of a difference between Rome and the American Civil war, i.e. Rome is of immeasurable importance to western civilisation and spanned 2200 years of history...

This video has been on KZread longer than the Confederacy lasted

@alamo0243

3 жыл бұрын

Haha funny joke that’s been reused 4000 times

@karlosdeevs

3 жыл бұрын

@@alamo0243 hey, jokes don't age

@accidentcarrot7225

3 жыл бұрын

@@alamo0243 Seethe

@davidwebb8217

3 жыл бұрын

The north ran the slave trade and sailed the slave ships for two hundred years which is longer than the confederacy lasted but the north is more than willing to lay all the sins of slavery on the south and base it all one document (EP) that didn't free any slaves in the north. They claim that the south's secession was illegal but the secession of West Virginia was legal. If you don't see the hypocrisy you're blind deaf dumb and stupid.

@MrGreensweightHist

3 жыл бұрын

@@alamo0243 Yep, the joke has also been around longer than the Confederacy ;)

Thank you for the fair shake.

Excellent graphic

I am proud that my family refused to fight in the war, though they lived in Texas. They did not hold slaves, nor did they believe in slavery.

@potlick18

4 жыл бұрын

Kaninma Shameful

@TheDarthgrant

4 жыл бұрын

potlick18, how is refusing to fight a war that was meant to maintain the status quo (Slavery) in the south, “Shameful”, lol like wtf? You must be a White Supremest....and that’s the “Shameful” part.

@vivians9392

4 жыл бұрын

So many of the settlers in Texas came from Dutch/German/Slovak nations and were farmers. They were not interested in politics and had immigrated to the United states to escape War! The land and family was their concern, not who controlled the White House.

@vivians9392

4 жыл бұрын

@@potlick18 Serving in the war in the South was a matter of choice, nothing else! Many of the immigrants from Europe lived in their own cultural communities and wanted to farm and escape war, as they had faced in Europe. Nothing shameful about that in that era.

@PoohhNani

4 жыл бұрын

Neither did the majoity of confederates. Congrats

I’ve met many proud Southerners. Some the finest folks you could ever know and some not so much. That’s true anywhere, but It’s true in different ways. The biggest cliche that I found to be completely untrue is the notion that Southerners are dumb or slow. Far from it. Living a more plain and simple life does not mean you’re an idiot. And although racism is definitely exists, many Southerners believe keeping their history within reach helps prevent them from repeating it. Civil war is horrific. May my fellow American brothers and sisters never be faced by it again. Peace. JR

@CitrusTsunami

5 жыл бұрын

+Jonny Roxx peace to you brother, read up on PLUR if you don't know about it already :)

@tankmassacre8957

5 жыл бұрын

Yes as living in the south in Gergia there is less racism then there is in the North. And to me the reason a statue is there to not only symbolize the person or thing but to show not to do something or show why we did it

@ednaperhach2769

5 жыл бұрын

Amen darling Amen ,. 😘✌️

@themaninblack993

5 жыл бұрын

Jonny Roxx good chance there will be another one

@GErwin-ki6eo

5 жыл бұрын

Actually the whole Romanticizing and premature re-entry of the south into the Union was to save the political Career of ANDREW JOHNSON. The Worst, at least in the top 3, presidents. I'm really shocked that this was not mentioned. Had Lincoln not been assassinated, reconstruction would have continued. PROBABLY would have been different. Should have continued for at least 10 years. Just like the U.S. had to 'de-Nazify' the 3rd Reich. Or Un-fuedalize Japan, and De-Fascist Italy post WWII. Andrew Johnson knew if he welcomed the South, suspending Reconstruction, he'd be elected and/or void removal after his Impeachment. Allowing them to undo much of the progress implemented, ending the 40 acres and a mule which could have made a difference even today. Making Segregation, which was suppose to be temporary, a PROTECTION from angry, disenfranchised, ex-confederate soldiers, Permanent. Ending voting rights for former slaves. Who were once allowed to hold office. Until... It was in the early 20's with the red scare, and again in early 50's that this "Southern Pride" was somehow equated with a 3yr period of Treason. It's MANUFACTURED. How can 3 yeas be "Our Heritage!"? An intelligent people would want to put this behind. Be proud of AMERICAN HISTORY! Acknowledge ALL, good and bad. Unless one's 'great granpappy' was 3 yrs old when volunteering for the Confederate Army, this is not about Heritage at all. This was treason! And they LOST! Get over it! Isn't that what many 'Neo-Confederates" tell blacks about Slavery? But poser confederates cannot get over a 3.5 yr period in that region? Mush of this is the REVISIONIST History, that the Republicans have subscribed to, knowing that many southern working class will(again)vote against their economic interests. Cause of some manufactures 'Pride and Victimization". Slavery hurt poor Whites Southern as well. Not like the actual slaves, btu it kept them poor and uneducated. Is BETTER OFF Without Slave Labor. For all but the Plantation owners. I'm not some 'hyper PC" Or White Guilt Crippled liberal. I feel it's counter productive and gives FOX ammunition. But C'mon now. Put this to bed. THEN you can make logical arguments to counter the 'dumb racist' Stereotypes.

As someone from SC, this is probably the most thorough video on the topic I've seen.

@Ram-zc4fi

3 жыл бұрын

The biggest tragedy of the war for the South is the descent from one of the wealthiest areas in the world to now the poorest area in the US. Think that helps bridge together a lot of the animosity, as people can point to the campaigns of Sherman and the failures of Reconstruction as justifying their longing for a more prosperous time in the South.

@dgray3771

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ram-zc4fi Add to that this. The south might have fought to "preserve" their way of life, which included slavery. But the north never fought to free the slaves... It is a twisted story told by northerners and fervent supporters of the "free the slaves" idea that this war was noble. It was not. It was for the south a war to preserve a way of living, while for the north it was to preserve the union. Slaves were a byproduct. There were still slaves in the north when slavery was abolished in the south. Though freed within a few years. Also not much was done to provide work and a future for former slaves. Most ended up in ghettos, in deep poverty. Lincoln and anyone after that still to today is clueless about this. You can't free milions of people who cannot read or write and basically existed to pluck cotton all day, and then they got to fend for themselves. And expect anything good to happen. The proclamation of emancipation existed only to keep europeans out of the war. That is the truth.

@jimbobcutter849

3 жыл бұрын

@@dgray3771 freed within a few years?

@dgray3771

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimbobcutter849 Yes the 13th amendment that was implemented 18th dec 1965, while the declaration of emancipation of 22 september 1862 only covered the 10 rebel states.

@jimbobcutter849

3 жыл бұрын

@@dgray3771 1965?

The Civil War was a war about slavery. Speeches regarding secession from the time make this plainly clear. The Union at first fought to put down a rebellion and reunite the nation. Only into the war when ending slavery became as important to the Union as the preservation of it became to the the Confederacy was the final push to victory undertaken.

@baneofbanes

3 жыл бұрын

@Bob Rocks You realize the Confederacy had a draft right? They literally forced people to fight.

@baneofbanes

3 жыл бұрын

@Bob Rocks It has everything to do with it. Doesn’t matter if the Mexicans who fought for the Confederacy where pro- or anti-slavery, as the Confederacy drafted most of its soldiers. None of their politics mattered, just those of the politicians. And the reason the South seceded and started the war was to protect slavery.

@4a8p9x

3 жыл бұрын

@Bob Rocks "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-" - From the Mississippi Letter of Secession "The servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations." - From the Texas Letter of Secession "...they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States." - From the South Carolina Letter of Secession "That reason was [the North's] fixed purpose to limit, restrain, and finally abolish slavery in the States where it exists. The South with great unanimity declared her purpose to resist the principle of prohibition to the last extremity." - From the Georgia Letter of Secession The people who created the Confederacy sure seemed to think that preserving slavery was a core issue, but I guess you know better

@4a8p9x

3 жыл бұрын

@Bob Rocks You just admitted that you think you know more about why the Confederacy was founded than the men who founded it, and you think it is me who has been brainwashed. Thanks, that was the best laugh I have had in a long time.

@4a8p9x

3 жыл бұрын

@Bob Rocks So you've gone from "To say the U.S. Civil War was about slavery is not only idiotic but a lie as well" to "There was more than one reason for the U.S. Civil War. That is my only point." I am glad to see that you have been able to shift your perspective, slightly, after seeing how the founders of the Confederacy disagreed with you. Maybe someday you will have the stones to read more of what they said and discover that your apologetics are built on sand.

It was never a State flag. Neither was it the southern STATES NATIONAL FLAG. It is a battle flag.

@dominicguye8058

5 жыл бұрын

Hilbert makes that clear during the video.

@snail123O

5 жыл бұрын

Some people are stupid.

@rb032682

5 жыл бұрын

Slavers are terrorists. Those who defend terrorists are terrorists. The kkk are terrorists. Any flag associated with the csa/kkk is a shitrag flag of terrorism.

@rb032682

5 жыл бұрын

@American Patriot! - "Heritage OF Hate!"

@southron2279

5 жыл бұрын

@@rb032682 then what does that make the union jayhawkers and general shermans army or not to even mention yankee calvary on the plains committing genocide against native americans

The most powerful group was the United Daughters of the Confederacy. They got statues erected, movies/shows made, and influenced education.

@CaneFu

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, they insisted on rewriting the history books as southern apologists, insisting that Civil War was fought over state's rights and not slavery. They got General Lee and others to be remembered as American heroes when nothing could be further from the truth. Lee and other Southern "heroes" were traitors, the South went to war to keep slavery, and the Daughters of the Confederacy had close ties with the KKK. The Confederate Statues were erected all over the South to intimidate black Americans and to show white supremacy....a really disgusting motivation behind it.

@earnieeveridge

3 жыл бұрын

That's why that $hit has to be stopped forever. Those traitors lost the war, joke em if they can't take a fu@k!

@davidwebb8217

3 жыл бұрын

@@CaneFu And yet you erected a monument to the greatest violator of the constitution in American history. Hypocrisy much ?

@davidwebb8217

3 жыл бұрын

@@earnieeveridge They weren't traitors you lying pos.

@kingkered01

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidwebb8217 Well it's against the constitution to cecede from the Union you bigot.

Being of Boer & Irish descent, I find solous in the actions of my ancestors to free themselves from Brits. Despite that Easter Rising & the Anglo-Boer wars were lost causes the fact that they still did what needed to be done gives a sense of pride.

It’s worth noting that here, our traditional meal on New Years Day is about how awful the war was for us. The exact meal differs between areas, but it has the same meaning. We were left in poverty, we were left eating food that was seen as animal food. It was awful and we remember how awful the war left us

War of northern aggression is how I always heard it till I left the south in 1998

@aw8079

5 жыл бұрын

that is a term created by the Dunning school. Worth a look up on wiki.

@ArckAngel75

5 жыл бұрын

Eh each side has its own view as to who was the bad guy. But history is written by the victors

@josephtaylor2085

5 жыл бұрын

Well I live in Mississippi and I have never heard anybody say that

@ClaireR3

5 жыл бұрын

Joseph Taylor maybe it’s a South Carolina thing? Idk

@mongojoe21

5 жыл бұрын

Claire Stephenson no, it’s a southern thing. I’ve heard it in Virginia and Georgia

Ft. Sumter is in Charleston Harbor in South Carolina, not Virginia as you state.

@historywithhilbert146

7 жыл бұрын

Agreed, this was a quick slip up, I'd already put it in the description.

@Affixton96

7 жыл бұрын

The picture that appeared at 1:44 is actually from New York City, not in the South.

@nialcc

6 жыл бұрын

I was just about to say that. This and along with the several other falsehoods on this video prove its nothing but another bunch of twisted lies and untrue propaganda. Trying to justified the unjustifiable will never help America heal.

@ajbagniewski4349

6 жыл бұрын

InkCricket C right on hero

@inkcricketc6776

6 жыл бұрын

Apollonian Apollonius ho ho ho ho the way your mama go the way

In Californian high schools, the American Civil War was not discussed much beyond: 'The South started it. The North finished it. The slaves were freed. By the way, California was a Northern state.'

Very good video, very fair to both sides

From a historical point of view, it's one of the most compelling periods to study. It's right up there with the Revolutionary War. It's natural that any American history buff will go to it as a frequent period of study.

Fort Sumter is in South Carolina, not Virginia.

@redcoat4348

4 жыл бұрын

And Abraham Lincoln wasn't an abolitionist.

@mrbrainbob5320

4 жыл бұрын

@@redcoat4348 yes he was

@redcoat4348

4 жыл бұрын

Nope. And he thought that black people were inferior to white people too. I think he mentioned this in the Lincoln-Douglass debates too! Abolitionism was a very fringe ideology even at the beginning of the civil war, and the Emancipation Proclamation was a desperate measure to start a mass revolt of slaves in parts of the South not occupied by the Union. When the civil war ended, Radical Republicans, riding off of anti-Southern sentiment, would shove through legislation abolishing slavery, giving them the franchise, and guaranteeing equality for all U.S. citizens. All of this happened during the presidency of Lincoln's vice-president, Andrew Johnson...who by the way was a southerner that did not support any of this. The Radical Republicans would get so annoyed with his obstructionism that he would become the first president to get impeached.

@mrbrainbob5320

4 жыл бұрын

@@redcoat4348 Lincoln was an abolitionist that one of the main reasons the south sorry but your southern pro Confederate propaganda is not gonna work.

@redcoat4348

4 жыл бұрын

Nah. The South went to war because they thought for some stupid reason that Lincoln *was* an abolitionist, even though he went through great pains not to mention slavery on the campaign. It was like the 19th century's version of "OBAMA'S GUNNA TAKE YER GUNSSSS"... And since when did I say that I supported the Confederacy. I'm glad the Union won and that we abolished slavery. *And I would totally let General Sherman burn Georgia to the ground again too.*

You have greater insight into American history than most Americans do today.

Imagine not having a actual flag

One time at a family reunion the subject of the Civil War came up. I mentioned that I would have fought for the North in that conflict. My mom, who was the last person to be racially prejudiced, acted like I had committed some kind of betrayal. I think we do have a few Confederates in the attic.

@LejunglerenardThejunglefox

4 жыл бұрын

But you weren’t wrong. Ever since the 3/5ths compromise Slavery has been a continuous problem up until the end of the Civil War with it determining if States entered the union. The practice despite taking place for so long in the South ran counter to the entire foundation of our country. Freedom. I’m not excusing the sins of the Union Soldiers because there were a lot of cases where they considered Freed blacks as “contraband” and had no rights until President Lincoln changed it with the Emancipation Proclamation and the permitting of African-American Infantry Units And they still were treated with animosity by their European-American Counterparts, but the message that they were fighting for was far more important than defending their homes and “state’s rights” they were fighting for their humanity and dignity as a person and in effect their freedom From slavery. Slavery wasn’t flowery by any means and was nothing compared to Historical Slavery of Roman Empire where you legitimately lost a war or were a criminal. This was a racial caste system that hindered human rights.

@alexd531

4 жыл бұрын

Doubt she was thinking about race. Probably just shocked youd join the asault on southern land or somethin.

@michaelsworld6292

4 жыл бұрын

The war was not about slavery, the true principles of it were states and citizens losing power on the back end of the vote to free slaves. No different than they do today. Tell you a bill is about one thing and on the back end it entails some fucked up details never mentioned. Here’s what most don’t understand, ONLY 10% or less of the southern population actually owned slaves. So one must ask themselves why on earth would the other 90% fight like they did just so the rich could keep their slaves? They wouldn’t and they didn’t, just like you wouldn’t fight for the rich today to keep shit that only benefits them. The people rose up and fought tyranny, It wasn’t even like it was completely Northern Americans VS Southern Americans. A LOT of the north joined the ranks of the south for obvious reasons, they didn’t want lose their rights either. The northern army was not only manned by more foreign troops than domestic, it was funded more by foreign entities as well as armed by foreign entities. England has its stakes in the matter as well. All you have to do is watch the movie Gangs of New York and you’ll see how those immigrants were able to gain citizenship in the new world. They HAD to join the Union army. As soon as they stepped off the boat they were suited, booted and armed to fight for the north. They also were led by a legion of foreign generals as well as foreign troops. Do your research folks, it wasn’t what you wer told it was and America got fucked in the process. There’s a reason they killed Lincoln and it was OBVIOUS it was ALLOWED to happen. Go to the library, read the books, the personal journals, the news papers etc... of the time. Don’t rely on “history books”. Because you’ll be reading His-tory. The victor writes the “history”. That’s why it’s paramount to do your OWN research.

@AlexCruz-wc1yo

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelsworld6292 Let's assume that's true. Then the South with their BS made it much easier. And by the way that includes the shooting of the first round that started the war.

@michaelsworld6292

4 жыл бұрын

Alex Cruz you don’t have to assume anything. Go to the library, read the newspapers of the time, the writings of the period. I had to do it in college and is how I came to know this. You’ll also learn more about the actual beginning. Dude seriously if it matters to you, you’ll go and learn.

"Mason-Dixon" Line. Not Mason-Dixie

@skippythetubrat

3 жыл бұрын

I prefer Manson-Nixon.

@kynessax5097

3 жыл бұрын

South-is-dicks Line

@paulgalligan1916

3 жыл бұрын

@@kynessax5097 🤣🤣🥸

@fkujakedmyname

3 жыл бұрын

that traitor line everyone on the south is an inbred nazi

@JedHazel

3 жыл бұрын

@@fkujakedmyname no

Ja this is ver good video and love from Alberta

I read an old book 1850's where this feller was a businessman who traveled from Philadelphia to New Orleans regularly. He said the difference bewix the North and South was striking. In the North as he passed thru towns the people were all industriously busy in the stores & shops & factories & farms BUT, as soon as he crossed the Ohio river that all changed. It became REAL quiet. All the stores & shops & farms were silent. The people he saw were lazing the day away on their porch, or under a tree or along the river bank. !

@suekennedy1595

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t that more be due to climate because it is very hot in the south

I live in northern Virginia in Manassas and the only time I see Northern virginian battle flags is when people from the South come for the country concerts lol

@bryanbridges2987

5 жыл бұрын

Northern Virginia has basically been colonized by the Northern immigrants, so that's not surprising.

@jakesummers5469

4 жыл бұрын

Hello fellow North Virginian! So I’m not the only one that feels like nova isn’t very southern?

@adams4222

4 жыл бұрын

AYYYEEEE NORTH VA BROOOOOOO. BTW not to bash your city but your streets suck shit mah man. The streets there are terrible for driving. Loved the battlefield tho

@FDNY101202

4 жыл бұрын

I live in PA and I see them all the time... Go figure.

@jerres9585

4 жыл бұрын

@@FDNY101202 why 😂😂 is there like a thriving southern migrant community in PA or something 😂

I always viewed it as the roots being the failure of reconstruction. it left much of the south still wishing for a separate country, and a strong bitterness towards the north (many northerners came to the south to take advantage of weakened infrastructure and newly impoverished citizens). Radical Republicans were for the punishment of the south, not rebuilding. because reconstruction halted, progress halted. The modern day south is better viewed as the failure of northern aid. While the north moved on, the south remained having to mend itself. While it can be debated on which is worse, the best simile i can give is germany after WWI. France was not keen on rebuilding germany, so they decided to pretty much cripple it. This led to a strong hatred of Germany's neighbors and especially the allied powers. Maybe the hatred of the North still remains today because it wasnt a country, but rather our own brothers who crippled us.

@jeffreypaulross9767

3 жыл бұрын

THE ONLY TRUE CONFEDERATE FLAG 🏳️

@earnieeveridge

3 жыл бұрын

The north has coddled the south since the war. That is the problem today, it's time to 8itch slap em again.

@spudbuilt4308

3 жыл бұрын

@@earnieeveridge Says someone who probably lives with people that can't figure out if they're a male or female.

@chuckschillingvideos

3 жыл бұрын

@@earnieeveridge Coddled? WTF?

@markpickett4403

3 жыл бұрын

The powers that be...were on the right side.

It is fallacious to cite the number of combatants who owned slaves themselves, as indication they were not motivated by preserving slavery. They were motivated by preserving their society as it was, economically, socially and culturally... which hinged on preserving slavery. The trap in trusting primary sources, is in thinking people write their real thoughts in diaries and letters, and reveal their full motivations. This is not the case, people write what is socially desirable, leave out what they feel can be assumed without saying, and outright lie to gain admiration, status or to not upset their loved ones... Surely at some point in your first year you had a few lectures on sources and interpretation of sources? :-P

Did he say Ft Sumter was in Va ?

I have to say: I really like the music in the background. It's very suspenseful.

Well the loss of 25% of their young men might have something to do with it.

@drezwider

4 жыл бұрын

Drew Oliver Good hopefully y’all lose some more this upcoming civil war

@mmmhmmm8236

4 жыл бұрын

@@drezwider what?

@ThatGuy-eu2vt

4 жыл бұрын

@@drezwider wtf?

@averyisaiah1

4 жыл бұрын

@@drezwider what about the Southern Jews? Lol

@Dim.g0v

4 жыл бұрын

1/5 isn't 25% 🤦🏼‍♂️

“Heritage not hate”. I’m from the south and I am embarrassed by its “heritage”.

@VERTWHEELER2013

2 жыл бұрын

Fully agree

I think a lot of people fail to realize the importance of the other factors at play, the south could not go to war without the support of the majority who didn't own slaves

@blackacidgaming5672

3 жыл бұрын

Those still had a vested interest in keeping slavery under a capitalist system, and they knew it. That being less people to fight over the jobs the poorer whites so desperately needed.

@viysnjor4811

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly such a thing was inevitable. Obvious moral issues aside, slavery on such a scale is simply not a sustainable economic model, and it would've collapsed sooner or later. Maybe without the civil war the South wouldn't have been so devastated when it did occur, but who can say. The truth is, the South was so reliant on slavery for its economy that getting rid of slavery would've (and in the end, did) destroyed the South, and I don't think there is a single universe out there where the South simply chooses this option without a fight, because they had EVERYTHING to lose.

Short answer: People in the South are more proud to be Southern than they are proud to be Americans

@jasonhuiting5193

3 жыл бұрын

I live in the south and I feel like people is large urban centers and folks in more rural areas have little to nothing in common. No matter who is in power at the federal level about half of Americans are pissed off and feel that the federal government is pushing their beliefs and policies down my throat. Would the people not be more happy with government if the states were separate from a federal government. Each state could represent the people much better. There could be an American union like in Europe for trade, military, and foreign policy.

@chrishooge3442

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonhuiting5193 We tried that with the Articles of Confederation. The Founding Fathers wanted more centralized Federal control so the AoC was chucked and the US Constitution was written, debated, and ultimately ratified. I share your opinion that there is a urban/suburban and rural divide. IMHO the urban population centers are dependent on government that provide numerous services. Power, water, sewer, police, fire, EMS, building codes, traffic management, trash service, hospitals, and education. That requires some level of government. The rural dependencies on government are less comprehensive when you have a water well, septic system, burn your trash, fewer roads and highways, volunteer fire, and less contact with law and code enforcement. Basically, rural population doesn't need the level of services provided by government. Unless, of course, they need major medical treatment in which they depend on the population centers.

@Peakfreud

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonhuiting5193 That's interesting perspective I feel there's some truth to that. I've lived all over the U.S originally from NY but Live in the South it's not just a racial issue difference either I'm Black and I find Southern Blacks to Quite deferent. And before I get mobbed by the SJW & Virtue Signaling police I'm not saying that differences is good or bad just different.

@dub7088

3 жыл бұрын

@@Peakfreud different how so? just curious

@Peakfreud

3 жыл бұрын

@@dub7088 Nah I'm good, I don't feel like having to entertain anyone's agenda driven comment manifesto. There's tons of people in these comments fishing for attention to rant about some B.S and they can't do it without an Audience. I respectfully decline to be that audience.. Have a great day.

You got it mostly right, but your references to "African slaves" is terribly misleading. The importation of slaves was banned in 1800, and the ban was pretty effectively enforced, if not perfectly. So, by 1860, almost all slaves were native born Americans. Not citizens under the laws of the time of course, but not African, any more than their owners were Englishmen, Germans, etc.

@historywithhilbert146

7 жыл бұрын

That's a fair point actually, I think I slipped up on this a few times during the video. Thanks for the information!

@tellyintokyo

7 жыл бұрын

"Pretty effective." US Navy wound hang captain of any slaving ship caught in international waters. British Navy began doing same in 1803.

@tellyintokyo

7 жыл бұрын

And Britain supported the Confederacy during war to the extent they were forced to pay reparations to the US. And don't forget the French as far North as Memphis.

@JohnnyReb

7 жыл бұрын

Correction: It was banned in 1808 and some slaves were still being imported into the US illegally. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_Prohibiting_Importation_of_Slaves slavenorth.com/index.html

@JRobbySh

4 жыл бұрын

@PatchesRips Well, black African. In reality course, genetics being what they are, many people just slipped into the white population or into the indian population. I dislike the political term “African-American" because they are essentially a mixed people, very often with European features. I also dislike the equally political term “Native American”. Why not the Canadian term , “First Nations”?

mfs be like "why are Southerners still mad about the civil war?" while the same people who fought for the Confederacy are still in the same states with their descendants.

We are the only Nation on earth that is strong enough and confident enough to let the losers of a war continue to fly their flag on our soil.

@Jellytarts1

3 жыл бұрын

We are so dum

@maverick6775

3 жыл бұрын

One state changed their flag last year

@davidwebb8217

3 жыл бұрын

The outcome of the war has nothing to do with why it was fought.

@survivortechharold6575

3 жыл бұрын

This was a nations flag. What is kept being called the confederate flag was actually the flag of the Tennessee volunteers not the flag of the confederacy.

@4a8p9x

3 жыл бұрын

@@survivortechharold6575 Most of us know it as the KKK flag, but Southerners don't seem to care

"Meddling in southern affairs" really means "meddling with slavery".

@chuckwest7045

3 жыл бұрын

The North was not "meddling" with slavery. The North did not fight the war to end slavery.

@MrKrumpetz

3 жыл бұрын

@@chuckwest7045 Exactly. People often overlook the whole "preserve the Union" part of reasoning the Union soldiers had. Abolitionists like Joshua Chamberlain were a rarity.

@grace4five

3 жыл бұрын

Not really. There was more to it than just slavery. The north let the southern states that joined them in the war keep their slaves for a time, freeing them after the war. Not trying to justify slavery, a detestable crime, but I'm just clarifying that the war was about more than just slavery. The individual states lost many rights after the war as well. There were more political reasons, and the north picked up the great cause of ending slavery mid-war, not at the beginning. As a southerner, I'm glad the north won.

@sirdopaminesjournal3292

3 жыл бұрын

@@grace4five That's not true, though. Slavery was at the inception of the war. It Slavery is included in the letters from southern leaders as their reason to secede in the first place, before the war even took place. It was not address in the middle of the war. Thats bullshit.

@chuckwest7045

3 жыл бұрын

@@grace4five .....As a southerner I wish the South had won. Both sides would be so much happier today.

Being From Texas I saw the stars and bars my whole life and never thought it was racist.Later in life I saw skinheads and nazis kkk and such disgrace the flag and it really pissed me off even as a kid.Most southern people are good and I thought Northern people were rude.I went to my in laws farm in upstate New York and most of these folk were great to me.Until I went to a biker bar in Canastoda.As soon as I spoke I knew it was the wrong spot for me.

@isaiahpacheco9209

4 жыл бұрын

Allan Brogdon Texas brother💪🏾

@stainless1175able

4 жыл бұрын

Had the same experience when I went to D.C. for my grandfather's funeral. I opened my mouth with my Arkansas accent and it felt like a thousand glaring eyes on me. Was in a shopping mall. Felt like I was in a different country.

@allanbrogdon7453

4 жыл бұрын

@@stainless1175able a co worker asked for a dr pepper we were in kfcin Louisville Ky.Everyone started laughing.He was pissed and called them all fn Yankees as we left.

@adamtharpe1305

4 жыл бұрын

I bet everybody stopped and turned around, right?

@allanbrogdon7453

4 жыл бұрын

Many people from the North think when we say yankee its about the war.To me it's an attitude and accent.Most southerners were fighting against invasion not for slavery.They called it the war of northern aggression.

Were your fajitas good?

Well spoken, Sir.

i live in Virginia and its weird to think Richmond was the main capital of the south

@Sven-wt7jf

5 жыл бұрын

I live in California

@oumarkoume7238

5 жыл бұрын

Same

@JRobbySh

5 жыл бұрын

Virginia was the largest and most influential of the slave states. In 1861 it included West Virginia, which meant that it extended from the Atlantic to the Ohio River. But, Richmond was chosen as the Confederate capital because it was assumed that Maryland would secede and leave Washington isolated from the North. Had Mssachusetts troops not arrive by train in the nick of time, Lincoln's government would have been forced to withdraw to Philadelphia, leaving Washington to be established as the Coinfederate capital.

@billbowgaggens306

5 жыл бұрын

The Rambunctious Reincarnation Of The Bear Guy VIRGINIA PRIDE WOOOO

@Ricky911_

5 жыл бұрын

Ikr

I have a book written by The Onion. At one part it says: “The South rises again, finds the remote, and stumbles back onto the couch.” 😂😂

@stevemiller7563

4 жыл бұрын

funny stuff comrade

@machida58

4 жыл бұрын

@@stevemiller7563 tis true

@dogbean5015

4 жыл бұрын

Mm yes

@domusdebellum3042

4 жыл бұрын

@Uncle Charlie go cling onto your participation trophy while people proud to be Americans keep this country together.

@domusdebellum3042

4 жыл бұрын

@Uncle Charlie i was in the navy. the US navy though, not one that fought against the country i love.

You keep saying the "confederate battle flag" while pointing to the rectangular flag. The battle flag was square. The rectangular one was the flag of the Army of Tennessee. The same state where Nathan Bedford Forrest served as lieutenant general. The rectangular flag became popular because Nathan literally brought it with him to the Klan when he was elected the first grand wizard.

@jeffreypaulross9767

3 жыл бұрын

THE ONLY TRUE CONFEDERATE FLAG 🏳️

@TheGuitarReb

3 жыл бұрын

We had all sorts of flags and besides Gen. Forrest, also after some years tried in vain to disband the Klan. My ancestor served in the AOT and guess what? His troopers were Not segregated.

@davidwebb8217

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffreypaulross9767 The flag that flew on slave ships......etc.usf.edu/clipart/72500/72525/72525_34_us_c_lg.gif

@marcush4741

3 жыл бұрын

You do know WHY they weren't segregated, yeah? Because black folks were NOT allowed to be soldiers in the Confederate Army... and the confederacy didn't want hundreds of black men gathered together without white oversight. So they spread black slave laborers across units as needed. Black people attached to the confederate army were literally slaves that were volunteered by their masters or were requisitioned by the confederate government by force (in direct vilation of the states rights idea). There were no black confederate soldiers. Not even in the AOT. I absolutely know that there were multiple flags in the AOT. The fact remains that the flag of the AOT got popular specifically because General Forrest took it with him to the Klan. The flag got used at Klan rallies, and later at pro-segregation demonstrations. Even AOT veterans were more likely to fly Lee's battle flag than the flag of the AOT.

@davidwebb8217

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcush4741 You do know why Lincoln was against the expansion of slavery in the west , yeah? Because he didn't want hundreds of black men under cutting the wages of whites.

They are obsessed with it because they lost.

@scottdoesntmatter4409

3 жыл бұрын

....and the South is full of morons who don't know their history.