I have a Christian friend who said that you need to do good work to be save.I said we do good because we are thankful to God because HE saved us.

@MrKev1664

Жыл бұрын

Christ be with you try reading scripture Do not be deceived; *God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.* For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption; *but he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.* *And let us not grow weary in well-doing, for in due season we shall reap, if we do not lose heart.* (Gal 6:7-9) this man is a false teacher Come to Christ

@coldsteel865

Жыл бұрын

@@MrKev1664 What do you think God thinks of you when you use his word to attack his children with it?

@MrKev1664

Жыл бұрын

@@coldsteel865 Christ be with you Is something I said false? If so please point it out. A child of God would have nothing to fear from that verse. By this it may be seen who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not do right is not of God, nor he who does not love his brother.(1 John 3:10) Come to Christ

@coldsteel865

Жыл бұрын

​@@MrKev1664 You condemn yourself with your own words. Instead of explaining why you come to the conclusions you have. You are quick to judge, showing that you are full of pride and hate because you like to use the Word as a weapon against your fellow believers in Christ. It is a sin using the bible to attack fellow Christians. Living with hate in your heart is robbing you of the joy in your life. I will pray for you tonight that you find the peace that you seek and leave you with some of the wisdom that the Father teaches. Colossians 3:12-15 12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; 13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as* Christ forgave you, so also do ye. 14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. 15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.

@MrKev1664

Жыл бұрын

@@coldsteel865 Christ be with you What absolute nonsense. You are looking for a way to deny God’s word. I have not judged any one. We condemn ourselves not by passing on goods word but but staying in darkness and sin and not coming to the light which is Christ and doing Gods work. (John 3:16-21) Gods word is a weapon for us to weld to reveal falsehoods. For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and spirit, of joints and marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. (Heb 4:12) It is not a sin to reveal falsehoods, what a ridiculous comment. I have no hate in my heart only fear for you soul. You accuse like the evil one instead of accepting or responding to God’s word. Come to Christ

There is NOTHING you can do to be saved by your own hands. Works is a RESULT of salvation.

“fAiTh aLoNe bUt TRUE fAiTh iS nEvER aLOne”

why do people skip over the texts that are clear. saved by grace through faith.. not by works so no one can boast....what a clear passage that should turn to grace. i do humanbitarian aid, missionary work, and lots of volunteering. at no point in that do i believe that any of that is going to get me to "well done" it is because Jesus chose me. nothing more, nothing less. and amen!

Excellent video.

@MrKev1664

Жыл бұрын

Christ be with you Nope he seeks to mocking God. Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. do not be led astray by this false teacher. Come to Christ

@562mjohnson

Жыл бұрын

@@MrKev1664 are you trusting in yourself?

Because salvation to sin, instead of from sin has been the contemporary norm. 1. Saved by grace. 2. Receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 3. Walk in the Spirit, doing the works that God prepared beforehand. Ref: Kingdom of Heaven parables & Hebrews 11.

So you are saved by free grace but you have to work to prove your salvation? This is false my dude. James is simply saying you have faith do something with it because you're saved it's not about proving you're saved. If it is how much work proves I'm saved a little, a little more, alot? Where is this mythical scale of how many works proves I'm saved?

@MrKev1664

Жыл бұрын

Christ be with you you are understanding incorrectly While Gods grace saves us and that alone our works do not. Yet the faith we receive God's grave though must have works. By our works we know we are saved but that is not their primary function. Our works are how we create a union of love with Christ and his Father. (John 14:20-24) Only abiding in Christ are we saved for he is life (1 John 5:11-13) Nor is there amount of work, what we did Yesterday no longer matters (Matt 7:21-27) We must continue living as Christ teaches, maintain our union of love with him. While you continue to live your life for Christ you are saved. Come to Christ

@brokengirl8619

3 ай бұрын

We know we are saved because Jesus. Not cause works. If our assurance is in our works then our faith is in our works. "I know I have eternal life because I obey."

Man wants to pay off his debit but he can't it's like, "Let me earn some salvation today to pay off my sins."

@MrKev1664

Жыл бұрын

Christ be with you No we want to abide in Christ, to love him (John 14:20-24) Without obedience to the teaching and commandments in Christ we cannot do this. (2 John 9-11) please read the bible start with those scriptures I have given you. Come to Christ

@MrKev1664

Жыл бұрын

@@nocarryinghere Christ be with you I follow Christ’s commandments. He followed his Fathers, we are to follow his. If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and abide in his love. (John 15:10) It is God’s moral Law we follow not the ceremonial for that was just a shadow of Christ who has come. I suggest you read the Bible you will see this rather than look for reasons no to obey what Christ taught. (Luke 9:46-49) God bless you

@ramonam9251

Жыл бұрын

Catholics wrote the bible.

We want to be “in control” of our own bc salvation

The maker of the video himself admits that there is a "true faith" which means: faith + works, and a "false faith" which means: faith without works. Faith with works is not "faith alone" - and the "false faith" cannot result in salvation. In this way "faith" and "works" are intrinsically connected. Of course they are both not sufficient to grant us salvation - it happens ONLY by the grace of God who mercifully forgives us our sins. Yet we know, that not all people will experience this grace, and what makes the difference are good works in contrast to bad works of the evildoers - Jesus, the judge of the living and of the death gives us criteria for His judgment (like in Matth. 25) - and they all are connected to good works.

James is making an example in the passage of saying you have faith , but not helping others in need. That’s the works his promoting.

@MrKev1664

Жыл бұрын

Christ be with you He is promoting the need to obey and live according to Christ. He is telling us that without obedience to God we are not justified, Come to Christ

@jhask64

Жыл бұрын

He is promoting you will produce good works AFTER being saved, not TO BE saved. Sometimes that’s not easily understood until you are truly saved.

@MrKev1664

Жыл бұрын

@@jhask64 Christ be with you Sorry that is false. The question St James poses I’d can faith without works save. What does it profit, my brethren, if a man says he has faith but has not works? Can his faith save him? (James 2:14) He does not seem to this it will. Do you want to be shown, you foolish fellow, that faith apart from works is barren? (James 2:20) You are creating anti biblical doctrine Come to Christ

@christsavesreadromans1096

Жыл бұрын

@@jhask64If one doesn’t produce fruit they’re cut off from Christ (John 15:1-2)

@patrickm8253

11 ай бұрын

​@MrKev1664 you are blind brah. You clearly didnt watch the video

This will be the main reason why so many will in FACT will cook in hell because of their selfrighteousness instead of trusting in our Lord for what he's already done for us its unfortunate many people think this way.

..God, who “will render to each one according to his deeds”: eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality..

@brokengirl8619

2 ай бұрын

You should find a study explaining that verse and how it is not about works. An in depth study in the greek.

@mpmattson

2 ай бұрын

@@brokengirl8619 Faith w/o action is dead as roadkill.

@mpmattson

2 ай бұрын

@@brokengirl8619 It might be quicker for you to give me a quick paraphrase of how it's not about works. (from YOUR studies) I grew up in a church that was largely "gilt edged blank check, unconditional eternal security" so I've heard all the arguments.

While they didn’t say Catholic Church in the video, it certainly seems they were referring to the Catholic Church with the picture of the rosary. The church’s understanding of justification is worth looking into as it is not as he is describing it here. I would recommend looking into what the Catholic Church teaches on justification from her own sources. You can check out Catholic Apologist Jimmy Akin on how the church understands justification for a more nuanced and scripturally based view. You may not agree in the end with the churches position, but at least then you will understand what the church actually teaches, not what someone THINKS the church teaches. My brothers and sisters in Christ I ask you to pray for me and I will keep you in my prayers as well.

If anyone brings up James, then might I ask who was he writing to?

Who believes that you can earn initial justification? Certainly not Catholics or Orthodox.

People getting sucked into work bases or repentance salvation have never read the Bible to study it. The bible does not state that whover does the good works of repenting and belives in him will be saved. The gift of salvation is something given to those who Belive on the Lord Jesus that he is who he said he is and that he will do what he says he would. He took the punishment for our sins. Your guilty of your sins and the sintance God gives you for your sins is Death. It has nothing to do with works or repentance. Did Jesus state that if your repentance is good enought then I might decide to save you? Someone who claims that if you do not repent everytime you sin you lose salvation is to call Jesus a lier and state that going to the cross and dying for your sins was not enought to be forgiven of sin. Jusus paid it full past, present and future. God made salvation so simple that a child can figure it out. It is a gift not something you have to work for or it will be taken away from you if you don't repent each time you sin. The thing about repentance is the God will bless you when you turn away from sin because he know that when you sin it robs you of the life you could live. He wants to show you grace and give you gifts but if you dwell in sin you run the risk of having God correct you with the rod. Does a good father shower a spoild child throwin a tamtam and sining all over their life with gifts or does he correct them and point them in a better direction. Spar the rod spoil the child.

@MrKev1664

Жыл бұрын

Christ be with you you do not seem to have read the bible why are you mocking God this is what St Paul says about the need to do good works to receive eternal life. Do not be deceived; *God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.* For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption; *but he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.* *And let us not grow weary in well-doing, for in due season we shall reap, if we do not lose heart. * (Gal 6:7-9) the bible tells us that we must repent or perish (Luke 13:2-4) that we need to repent for the forgiveness of sins (acts 2:38) Jesus told us to bring sinners to repentance was what he came to do. (luke 5:32) and it was what he sent St Paul out to do (Acts 26:15-20) In repentance it is our past sins that have been forgiven. For whoever lacks these things is blind and shortsighted *and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.* Therefore, brethren, *be the more zealous to confirm your call and election, for if you do this you will never fall;* so there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. (2 Peter 1:9-11) you should try read the bible Come to Christ

@coldsteel865

Жыл бұрын

​@@MrKev1664 The Scriptures tell us there is only one “way’ to be saved when Christ made this statement in the Gospel of John: “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” John 14:6 (KJV) If we place our full faith in Christ and his finished work on the cross to redeem us we will be saved: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.” Romans 10:9 (KJV) The Scriptures are clear that there is only way to be saved and that is by placing our faith and trust in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” John 5:24 (KJV) Repentance is not even mentioned once. You seem to think that somehow repentance is a requirement for salvation. The Holy Bible is crystal clear about what you need to do to gain eternal salvation. Repentance is not one of them. Repentance is a turning away from your old life and turning towards Jesus. The texts you sited is an example of why we should turn from sin. Sin in our life robs us of what our lives could be yet we are not required to do that to gain salvation. There are three things that will hinder genuine believers from doing all they can to serve Christ with their lives and live Godly live. Blindness to sin, unrepentant sin and fear of losing one’s salvation. I pray that you will do as God commands “know that ye have eternal life” today and not live in the fear of losing one's salvation by practicing works based salvation.

@MrKev1664

Жыл бұрын

@@coldsteel865 Christ be with you Oh you are one of those people who only believes some of the scriptures. You ignore the ones I gave because you think yours are better. Well let look at yours. Jesus certainly is the way the truth and the life and he continues by tell us what that will mean dor those who believe in him. “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I go to the Father. He tells us what these works will be. “If you love me, you will keep my commandments. (John 14:15) He tells us these works will be necessary for us to abide in him and for he and the father to abide in us. In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you. He who has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me; and he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him.” Judas (not Iscariot) said to him, “Lord, how is it that you will manifest yourself to us, and not to the world?” Jesus answered him, “If a man loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. He who does not love me does not keep my words; and the word which you hear is not mine but the Father’s who sent me. (John 14:20-24) He continues this thought telling us that unless we continue to abide in him we will be taken away and burned. One in producing the fruit of obedience will we find true joy. “I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. Every branch of mine that bears no fruit, he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. You are already made clean by the word which I have spoken to you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. 5 I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in me, and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. If a man does not abide in me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire and burned. If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you will, and it shall be done for you. By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be my disciples. 9 As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you; abide in my love. If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and abide in his love. These things I have spoken to you, that my joy may be in you, and that your joy may be full. This is his way and his truth that we may have life. In regards to Rom 10:9 we gave seen to believe with our hearts we must do his works and keep his commandments otherwise we do not love him. He also tells us that for calling him Lord to have any meaning we must do as he says. “Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you? (Luke 6:46) Now on to John 5:24 Jesus tells us who he is referring to when he says believe in him We already know those who hear God’s work must do it. (Luke 6:46) We already know that those who believe in Jesus do his work but here we see the believers are those who do good and not evil. Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears my word and believes him who sent me, has eternal life; he does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. “Truly, truly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself, and has given him authority to execute judgment, because he is the Son of man. Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and come forth, *those who have done good, to the resurrection of life,* and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of judgment. (John 5:24-29) The only way to know we have know we have eternal life is to have the Son because he is life. And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He who has the Son has life; he who has not the Son of God has not life. (1 John 5:11-13) I write this to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life. (1 john 5:11-13) And as we have seen the only way to have that Son is to keep his commandments. (John 14:20-24) If someone bing another doctrine, one lacking in the need to obey Christ, his commandments and teachings then the do not have God. Any one who goes ahead and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God; he who abides in the doctrine has both the Father and the Son. If any one comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into the house or give him any greeting; for he who greets him shares his wicked work. (2 John 9-11) Come to Christ

@coldsteel865

Жыл бұрын

@@MrKev1664 Let me ask you one question. Why did Jesus decide to come down from heaven and die on the cross?

@MrKev1664

Жыл бұрын

@@coldsteel865 Christ be with you So that those who repent and obey him may receive eternal life.(Heb 5:8-9) For they believe in him pick up there crosses and follow him. (Luke 9:22-24) Jesus makes that pretty clear in these verses. Come to Christ.

ARE these faith plus works saved?!??!

Works Gospel (Wisdom of men) Gift of Righteousness (Wisdom of God)

@MrKev1664

Жыл бұрын

Christ be with you here is the wisdom of God Do not be deceived; *God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.* For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption; *but he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.* *And let us not grow weary in well-doing, for in due season we shall reap, if we do not lose heart.* Come to Christ

Salvation by work is not true christ and christ by alone hut we must try tobe like him

there is no work that can save a man from sin, it's like a person that is given a car, it belongs to him, but he never drives it? it just say there all day everyday? God saves you! He tell you to be baptized! you're saved by Faith! but you never go out and tell anyone that your saved! you never go out to preach, or tell a friend that you ask Jesus into your heart! your Faith lays dormant! technically it's dead! you live a normal regular life! like Jesus is of no effect in your new life? your saved but you do nothing with with the salvation God gave you? remember if not mistaken when James wrote this letter the Church was being persecuted! thus making the believe afraid to go out and preach the word of Christ! for some not all! remember even Paul ask for prayer so that he could preach Christ boldly to the crowds of people that he would come across in his walk with Jesus! so you're saved but you are not doing anything with the salvation God saved you with! for some when God saved them they go out and tell the world the good news that Jesus saved them! that is what you would call working for God! spreading the Good news of Jesus Christ the Savior of the world! and that comes from a thankful Heart! that heart knows that it's just love for God! with no reserves of thought of gain! just thankfulness for God's love for that person! they know that it's a free gift of God! and you can not work for it! it's done all on the cross! that's why Paul says he Glory's on the cross of Christ! it's there that Salvation is bought by God for all mankind for free! the shedding of Jesus Blood on the Cross! you can not work for something that is given for free! it's free!

@MrKev1664

Жыл бұрын

Christ be with you to receive Gods free gift we must reject sin live in righteousness as a slave to God. What then? *Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace?* By no means! Do you not know that if you yield yourselves to any one as obedient slaves, *you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death,* or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? *But thanks be to God,* that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed, and, having been set free from sin, *have become slaves of righteousness.* I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural limitations. For just as you once yielded your members to impurity and to greater and greater iniquity, so now yield your members to righteousness for sanctification. When you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. But then what return did you get from the things of which you are now ashamed? The end of those things is death. *But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the return you get is sanctification and its end, eternal life.* For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. God's gift is free because we cannot pay its price not because we do not have to work, that mocks God. Do not be deceived; *God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.* For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption; *but he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.* *And let us not grow weary in well-doing, for in due season we shall reap, if we do not lose heart.* (Gal 6:7-9) St Paul was Gods glory because he obeyed Christ and produced much fruit. *By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be my disciples.* (John 15:8) I suggest you read the bible instead of creating false stories. Come to Christ

@jrx2662

Жыл бұрын

@@MrKev1664 is your comment to me? and if it is ! what is your point?

@MrKev1664

Жыл бұрын

@@jrx2662 Christ be with you Yes it was to you Sorry I thought it was clear. Did you read the verses? Jus because God ‘s gift is free does not mean we do not have to work, that we do not have to obey God. It just means we were not able to pay the price of death so Jesus paid it for us. God still requires us to reject sin and walk in righteousness as his slaves so we may be sanctified. This is our choice and is the part we play in our salvation. Our works glorify god. Come to Christ

@jrx2662

Жыл бұрын

@@MrKev1664 I understand the gift of God is free!! but what in my comment made you think that I have it wrong?

@MrKev1664

Жыл бұрын

@@jrx2662 Christ be with you That you say we have nothing to do with our salvation. That is not true. Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption; but he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. And let us not grow weary in well-doing, for in due season we shall reap, if we do not lose heart. (Gal 6:7-9) We must play a part to part We cannot do nothing and be saved. Come to Christ

As an atheist i can tell you we do have a moral basis for making such judgement about what's right and wrong, we just don't appeal to a God that hasn't been demonstrated to exist but even if we did, that would still only be his subjective opinion. However, I wouldn't want to take moral advise from the bible God nor should anyone else for that matter, because he thinks nothing of drowning babies and everyone else too. I myself find that immoral, God doesn't, therefore i am morally superior in that regard. More evil has been done in the world and continues to today as a result of Christianity and those religions than by any non religious people. Remember that when you're talking about how we know right and wrong because of him. Lastly: our sense of morality as people is a result of our evolutionary psychology, we lived in tribes and any selfish person would be killed.

We should pray for Roman Catholics as sadly they are blinded and I know as I used to be one

@MrKev1664

Жыл бұрын

Christ be with you While I am happy to receive the prayers i feel they would be better placed on those who feel good works unnecessary and feel its ok to mock God by suggest they have eternal life without them. Do not be deceived; *God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.* For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption; *but he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.* *And let us not grow weary in well-doing, for in due season we shall reap, if we do not lose heart.* (Gal 6:7-9) Come to Christ

@AnnetteMurphyger

Жыл бұрын

@@MrKev1664 good works save nobody. Jesus saves and we do good works as a result of being saved not to get saved. Nothing wrong with good works in the right order though.

@AnnetteMurphyger

Жыл бұрын

@@MrKev1664 what good works did the thief on the Cross do?

@AnnetteMurphyger

Жыл бұрын

@@MrKev1664 are you born again?

@MrKev1664

8 ай бұрын

​@@AnnetteMurphyger Christ be with you *you say* good works save nobody. *response * No the do not sayve but we mock God if we think we are saved without them. (Gal 6:7-9) *you say* please read the bible. Jesus saves and we do good works as a result of being saved not to get saved. Nothing wrong with good works in the right order though. *response* nothing wrong with good works is the apathy faith alone bring. this is no faith without the Law (Rom 3:31) please read the bible *you say* what good works did the thief on the Cross do? *response* He defended Jesus while going to his own death (Luke 23:39-43) please read the bible. *you say* are you born again? *response* all catholics are.

All our works are filthy rags

@MrKev1664

Жыл бұрын

Christ be with you your may be following this false doctrine. My righteousness has been washed in the blood of Christ. Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. (1 John 3:7) come to Christ

@christsavesreadromans1096

Жыл бұрын

That’s not what Jesus said. Matthew 25:31-46.

@mpmattson

2 ай бұрын

Definitely any "good" works in our own flesh are filthy. Our works that are motivated and powered by the Holy Spirit are wonderful.