Why is it made of steel 🤔 #gymnast #gymnastics #sports #calisthenics #parkour
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@m.p1120 Жыл бұрын
also the grip used is different between men’s and women’s gymnastics because with women’s we’re switching between the two bars instead of being on one. and female gymnasts are lighter on average due to the higher demand for flexibility in women’s gymnastics compared to men’s.
@marialindell9874
Жыл бұрын
999/1k likes
@samalama210
Жыл бұрын
@@muffinconsumer4106bro what
@TakecenterStage
Жыл бұрын
This seems like the best comment on the video. Thank you for this!
@rOceans-XbL
Жыл бұрын
@scarlet_message3207how is that in anyway sexist? women get 2 bars be grateful
@beepboopbap23
Жыл бұрын
@scarlet_message3207 No it’s isn’t, women are proven to be lighter then men.
@erinsoph Жыл бұрын
Ok so I’m a female competitive gymnast, and for all the people complaining about him saying women won’t do as many powerful swings on the bar, it’s true. He’s completely right because not only are our routines different and don’t incorporate the same kind of moves as men and also, women are lighter than men on average. He’s just saying facts.
@joeyboudreaux8504
Жыл бұрын
And it's exactly what's different between the two. Women's gymnastics show cases the beauty, elegance and grace of the performers. Men's shows off power and finesse. It's incredibly difficult even for professional gymnasts to perform the other genders routins.
@Unbelievable6000
Жыл бұрын
I agree
@mgsquared5204
Жыл бұрын
@NQH only weird people feel the need to make this comment. What a strange thing to say. Have a Capri-sun and get off the internet for a few… years.
@popmasteralan5594
Жыл бұрын
@@mgsquared5204 ???
@bigmaxmer1556
Жыл бұрын
@@mgsquared5204 cry about it my god
@yuukinoyuki9064 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if someone commented this, but women's gymnastics also used to involve a lot of "bouncing" moves. They'd purposefully wack their thighs/hips against the bars to bounce between the low/high bars. You can't do a giant on the low bar to build up momentum/get that bend he's talking about, so instead momentum was conserved by litterally smacking into the thing. So, yeah, steel would've been less than ideal.
@colbey32
Жыл бұрын
Men's parallel bars are also made of wood and fiber glass. They can also be offest and adjusted into a position reminiscent to "beat bars", or how uneven bars used to be set. Female gymnasts used to bounce and swing from bar to bar. The bars were also not a cylinder shape, they had the same shape as parallel bars.
@yuukinoyuki9064
Жыл бұрын
@@colbey32 Yup, back in the days when you could stand on the bar and do a backhandspring to catch it. I'd add that the bars used to be just wood, fiberglass was added because they just kept breaking, lol.
@magdolyn
Жыл бұрын
@@colbey32 In Turnen (a Sport) in Switzerland, the Stufebarren are exactly that, parallel bars set at different heights. What's really fun is we'll do routines with multiple people (sometimes even mixed men and women) and multiple sets of bars. It's super fun and really reminiscent of the old days, especially when bouncing off the lower bar back up to the top bar or holding the top bar, catching the low bar with your hips, and going straight into a back hip circle. Just gotta bend the knees on the circle so you don't crack your shins on the high bar. 😅
@ahstiasummers5583
6 ай бұрын
The old uneven bars were originally placed so close that the gymnast could hang by their arms from the taller and have their hips/thighs lay on the shorter
@greenlizard4208 Жыл бұрын
To all the comments, women's and men's gymnastics shouldn't even be compared tbh. They're basically two different things. One's more involved in flexibility and the other's more involved in strength. They'd both fail trying each other's sports so that just shows how different it is. The only real thing they have in common is flipping around but that's basically it. And they're not even doing it the same way either so like...
@magdolyn
Жыл бұрын
OMG, thank you for being one of the rare sane ones here! There's really zero comparison between the two, which is why the bars are made out of different materials! Different goals, different routines, different bars. And they all seem to forget that parallel bars are also wooden...
@nunyanothing1408
9 ай бұрын
There are actually similarities, such as the same events ( As in shared events like the floor and vault), they both have difficulty and execution scores they both have bars just made out of different materials. So they are both gymnastics, just different ways of doing things. So in certain aspects you can compare but they do have a LOT of differences. We are sane, and people just need to figure out how and when you can compare the 2.
@nunyanothing1408
9 ай бұрын
They also fail at each other's events because girls are naturally more flexible and have practiced balance beam or uneven bar and guys haven't. Same with if a girl tried pommel horse it would be so different because we don't do skill like that. You can compare the two but certain aspects you can't.
@overgrownkudzu
8 ай бұрын
yeah, uneven bars are a completely different apparatus, some skills are just similar.
@missserenity1090
8 ай бұрын
Exactly, there’s multiple series I’ve seen from different gymnasts where a man and a woman who are both either competitive or pro (or both in the case of pros) will swap and test out how good they are at the other genders skill set that the other person is trained for. The results are always entertaining and it shows just how different the two sports are since often each person struggles with the skill set they’re not familiar with/trained for.
@aboredbisexual190 Жыл бұрын
“Steel was also chosen because of its strength” He literally showed that he broke the bar in one of his videos 😂 How many li-
@GrimAgent
Жыл бұрын
Yes but obviously that doesnt happen a lot Why so many likesssss
@MrA6060
Жыл бұрын
They're made of fiberglass. If they were still they would never snap like that, they would bend. I see too many braindead people that are just accepting "facts" from KZread and it's scary tbh
@dluoultra9633
Жыл бұрын
@filipaleksander2694 oh yea ur right. I'm literally taking a class on how steel breaks and it does not snap like that because it's ductile.
@adabitterhand4011
Жыл бұрын
And he also chose to break the bar. Like you could see how much he was swinging on it.
@josephconley1599
Жыл бұрын
@@adabitterhand4011 um no. That's just how to tap for a skill called a tkatchev
@celesefernal2490 Жыл бұрын
Hey! I'm going to add another reason here: when materials repeatedly experience stresses, they can end up breaking even if it's wayyy below their yield point. Steel is one of the materials that has a fatigue limit, that means it will never break as long as the applied stress stays below a certain value.
@sci-fye1388
Жыл бұрын
He broke one once
@celesefernal2490
Жыл бұрын
@@sci-fye1388 well if enough stress is applied then it can still break. But this is better than a lot of materials that will break over time regardless of the loading.
@autumn5592
Жыл бұрын
All it needs to do is reach plastic deformation point. It doesn't matter how much past it it goes, it all adds up, so over months, years, or decades, you can work harden the pole, causing it to break 'randomly.'
@Kevin-dt9xm
Жыл бұрын
@@autumn5592 thats what he means, as long as the deformation stays below that threshold, you can deform it over and over forever.
@ashenmoonclash
Жыл бұрын
Actually with stresses like this over time steels properties change. Every bend creates heat. It may seam miniscule but added up it wall harden further but be more prone to shear then.
@itsbridget38972 ай бұрын
“Steel was chosen because of its strength” Not that one time Ian 😭
@Chaotic0699 Жыл бұрын
"On average" bro did his best not to turn this into a gender war so cut him some slack😭
@galymzhankyrykbaev2976
Жыл бұрын
Yes those gender war become new holy wars
@personx1646
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s crazy how people can turn that around so easily, cuz yes mass and strength is on average greater in men, but that doesn’t mean women aren’t amazing at the sport
@Blackw1ng
Жыл бұрын
Honestly glad he at least tried. I like his content but God do people in the comments fight for no reason to pit genders against each other.
@brandonsg1367
Жыл бұрын
They’d be offended for him telling the truth
@intreoo
Жыл бұрын
People are really turning basic biology into a war..
@azaperez6031 Жыл бұрын
Why are people turning this into a gender war? Most female gymnasts are smaller therefore it would be harder to bend steel bars. They use different bars to accommodate size, short male gymnasts would have to use the wood bars, and larger women will have to use steel and vice versa. I don’t think that’s very difficult to grasp. Is it?
@sturniolo8284
Жыл бұрын
Fr
@HighkeyBlitz
Жыл бұрын
Aint no way they tryna say this is sexist💀
@michaelkelly4533
Жыл бұрын
In today's day you cant really comment on any differences without someone having a problem with it
@OGNotSoFun
Жыл бұрын
For real bro,
@stephenkillin9730
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelkelly4533true
@dekusi1857 Жыл бұрын
also women (especially gymnasts!!) are physically A LOT smaller than men, so they can't exert the same amount of force on the bar as a guy. like most gymnasts are around 5'0 and are physically fit, so they don't have much weight to actually bend the bar with as opposed to a man. i'm not sure if male gymnasts end up being shorter than average as well, ive never paid much attention to mens gymnastics :p
@aureus79
Жыл бұрын
He literally said this in the video
@dekusi1857
Жыл бұрын
@@aureus79 not exactly, he said men are on average stronger, which is true! but in case anyone thought "that can't be the only reason, there's strong female gymnasts too", i gave a different explanation:p
@shazana1058
Жыл бұрын
Shhhhhh! Don't speak of such things! You'll bring upon yourself the hoard of people who will call you sexist for speaking of basic biology.
@joaopeixoto6224
Жыл бұрын
I'm taller than the average female gymnast
@Ayaforshort
Жыл бұрын
@@shazana1058 Not sexist to acknowledge physiological differences why applicable and relevant. Most people get up in arms about trying to say men and women have different emotional and intellectual ability. Most women know that a weaker man is sometimes stronger than a strong women. For example.
@icecold1805 Жыл бұрын
I wonder, who the hell thought of this as a sport? I mean, it seems so weird to think someone one day decided to start spinning around a branch tree or something, but when you see it in action, it really does feel like a natural fit for humans to be doing it.
@thedevilsadvocate5210
Жыл бұрын
stick whacking has been around since the dawn of civilization.
@fnausi7381
Жыл бұрын
Monkeys
@judas1213
Жыл бұрын
We're basically just less hairy monkies, it's really not that surprising
@KawaiiStars
Жыл бұрын
training used for soldiers probably
@maiaraandrade1952
Жыл бұрын
Oh! Finally a normal comment! The strangest part of this sport is that we didn't drop it 100y ago but actually developed technology to do even more crazy shit in those bars lol
@musicaddict1046 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, steel bars are usually used in female gymnastics to train new skills. Oftentimes we'll use gloves to make it easier to glide around the bar and make us practice the technique before progressing to the wooden bar. However steel bars also require a different grip than wooden ones, so it'll still feel very different.
@ae2948
Жыл бұрын
The men's bar is also SO MUCH EASIER to hold on to. And no one here is mentions it. So much ignorant nonsense about women's spines. No one mentions that the gymnasts with the smaller hands are the ones who have to manage with the thicker bars. its much easier to peel off the thicker bar and end up on the mat.
@Bella-m-Bella-m
10 ай бұрын
Also some gyms put like a plastic bar with tape around without gloves
@miharibic7817
8 ай бұрын
@ae2948 are u a women? Because you said SO MUCH EASIER TO HOLD ON MENS BAR THAN WOMENS. Because i think its very equal❤
@fuckingstupidthatihavetoma2528
7 ай бұрын
@@ae2948 wow those are some mental gymnastics... smoking that copium pipe dumb feminist
@astronoteek1512 Жыл бұрын
Just want to add that wood+fiberglass is also an extremely strong combination !
@rainbowflowerpower4464
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying that, I’m not a gymnast so when I heard that the women’s is fibreglass my first thought was concern about the bar’s strength, bare hands near snapped fibreglass is a terrifying image so I’m glad to hear the bar is suitably strong
@mussy9387
Жыл бұрын
@@rainbowflowerpower4464 the bars do occasionally break, but since women gymnasts are normally incredibly light (Simone Biles is 4'8" and 100 pounds) it does not break under the pressure most times. men gymnasts however can't use these bars because they on average weigh 100 pounds more
@timohara7717
Жыл бұрын
Yea it sound pretty consirning
@bellebonebag8096
Жыл бұрын
I often got painful blisters on my hands from gripping my wooden broom/mop handle when I cleaned my kitchen floor. And I'm not sure if this is comparable to chalk that gymnasts use, but I often had my hands covered in flour from baking my cakes, and I still got blisters. My grandma had a mop with an aluminum stick, and I didn't get blisters from gripping it when I used it to mop her floor. Since then, I made the switch to the aluminum stick, and I never got blisters again. It's also satisfyingly cool to the touch. Now don't get me wrong, I don't know if it works the same way in gymnastics. Maybe it's a different case for you guys and you don't get blisters because of the chalk, but I honestly think they should all be metal.
@magdolyn
Жыл бұрын
@@bellebonebag8096 Everyone gets blisters and calluses, and sometimes the calluses will rip off and bleed. Bar work is SUPER rough on the hands.
@jinja-ninga97c21 Жыл бұрын
Also mens shiny bar is thinner than a woman's wooden bar, if you ever see a close up on how they grip the bar men will grip the bar like a bike handle (4 fingers on top and the thumb under) but a womens bar you can't do that so there thumb sits on the same side as the finger (sort of like a sloth)
@sandcrab3188
Жыл бұрын
This is just.., not true. I did womens gymnastics until JO level 8. You switch your grip depending on the element. There are lots of elements where you grip with the thumb on the other side of the bar.
@retrovi4128
Жыл бұрын
Ummm look again. The woman grips it with her thumb as well.
@retrovi4128
Жыл бұрын
Wrong.
@jinja-ninga97c21
Жыл бұрын
I just had a quick and your right it's really fast and you miss it, tbh I did the sport myself for a LONG time and I never used my thumbs AT ALL...
@cibiwishtan1881
Жыл бұрын
Toxic femininity
@ELIE_FPS Жыл бұрын
POV: Your scrolling through comments looking for sexist comments
@nihiladest8688
Жыл бұрын
Literally me
@rishidixit3983
Жыл бұрын
Everyone talking about the gender war when there is none
@bradirv
Жыл бұрын
they fighting invisible people ong
@xxdogxx3637
Жыл бұрын
@@rishidixit3983yeah
@maiaraandrade1952
Жыл бұрын
Antipsychotics would do wonders in this comment section.
As a gymnast I would say the women’s bar is a lot better because it is more easier to grip on the bar so that’s my opinion
@PersonManGuy
Жыл бұрын
Idk when my coach makes me do giants on the girls bar, I am veeerryy hesitant. I like my thumbs wrapped 😂
@lilyadams-shaw2370
Жыл бұрын
it’s easier to grip ur u do also get A LOT of blisters from the women’s bars we were tested on the boys equipment once and with the men’s bars they r a lot more cold and slippery and you don’t get blisters from them even when u rnt wearing hand guards
@Your_Local_Moron
Жыл бұрын
Because women typically don't need thicker bars usually because women are usually smaller and weigh less
@joaopeixoto6224
Жыл бұрын
The guy in this video broke a steel bar while using it He would break the other bars on a daily basis 😐
@isi2973
Жыл бұрын
As a male child I liked gymnastics in sports lessons, then came puberty. I wish we would hace changed from steel to carbon fibre, cause boy o boy was that uncomfortable. ^^ ( and yes we have both ground and air gymnastics in sports lessons here in germany )
@wheresmygrasses1549 Жыл бұрын
I like the emphasis he had “on average” 😂
@omgdontyouknowimasavage5106 Жыл бұрын
Two guys in my gymnast group managed to brake one of those bars🤣
@alyxleaf7 ай бұрын
"Steel was chosen because of its strength" Ian you broke one-
@grischad20
6 ай бұрын
so because steel broke once all of the building that are standing because of the steel rebar will fall?
@SlavCatt
5 ай бұрын
Steel is one of the strongest metals that has a good amount of malleability, therefore is the best option, also he was trying to break the bar in that video
@Artoast_AQ Жыл бұрын
It's also because there's a difference in the point of balance between men and women. Women's point of balance is closer to their hips, while men's is more towards the chest area. Which means men need more of a swing to flip and do gymnastics. 🤸♀️ 🤸♂️
@djdavisiscool
Жыл бұрын
What does that have to do when an entire person is coming down on a pole. your center of balance does not matter in that case.
@Artoast_AQ
Жыл бұрын
@@djdavisiscool that's pecause when you're sliding down a pole you're going down straight, in a vertical line. With a gymnastics bar your doing tricks on a horizontal bar, thus using that fact.
@djdavisiscool
Жыл бұрын
@@Artoast_AQ what does the center of gravity have to do with how much the bar bends. You were swinging on the pole all of your weight is going in that direction it doesn't matter where your center of gravity is force is force.
@Artoast_AQ
Жыл бұрын
@@djdavisiscool listen, ok? Google it. Good day 👋
@wynsonrao5177
Жыл бұрын
@@djdavisiscoolwhen you're swing around the bar the center of mass absolutely matters; since women's center is lower down their bodies it's further from the bar(the axis of rotation) so they accelerate around it more easily
@Josh_DoesStuff Жыл бұрын
Coming to the comments to see the chaos this man is about to ensue 🤣
@aeropulse1392
Жыл бұрын
😂
@noxturne16 Жыл бұрын
oh my god the comments are atrocious, women don’t need steel bars because we aren’t as big and don’t force the bar as much as men. he never said it’s a bad thing and while we are not biologically equal we can be equally talented and skilled in our own ways
@1minime2
Жыл бұрын
right, it's common sense... the society went a lil bit crazy with the feminism mentality, manipulating it so easily, twisting the original idea of equality. you explained it very well, to me
@jimmyengland428
Жыл бұрын
Shut up hole.
@noxturne16
Жыл бұрын
@@jimmyengland428 wtf??
@declanhugors
Жыл бұрын
I like to think of male and female roles as food and water. Food can't prevent dehydration, and water can't prevent starvation. Both are equally essential, but they have different strengths and weaknesses. One is not more valuable than the other
@noxturne16
Жыл бұрын
@@declanhugors eloquently said 👏
@unorthodox1178 Жыл бұрын
I’m no expert, but it seems a lot like the men typically use the bar to launch themselves while women use their feet more.
@luanselmani4695 Жыл бұрын
The way he says „on average" so he wont get cancelled
@shay4261
Жыл бұрын
or maybe he just said on average and not everyone is permanently online
@Mimix-o
Жыл бұрын
? Werido
@aster2790
Жыл бұрын
@@shay4261 he didn't say that men bend them more on average tho so your reason can't be true
@shay4261
Жыл бұрын
@@aster2790 he did..
@aster2790
Жыл бұрын
@@shay4261 oh ok then lmao
@cram23 Жыл бұрын
womens gymnastics also switch between two bars multiple time rather than being on the one. women gymnasts are also generally smaller and lighter because of the flexibility and flippy stuff they do whereas mens gymnastics focuses mostly on upper body strength
@jacksond7956 Жыл бұрын
I do pole vault, and our poles are all made out of fiber glass. They are incredibly incredibly strong and flexible, even though they do rarely break. These poles can basically bend upside down while still snapping back up flinging a 100 something or 200 pound man.
@stephmo371 Жыл бұрын
Until recently, i also didn't realize that it was a solid core bar. For whatever reason, I thought they were kinda hollow to give it that flexibility.
@Kevin-dt9xm
Жыл бұрын
Nah, hollow bars are actually worse when you need them to bend, as they will tend towards crumpling instead of just bowing. If you wanna see just how flexible solid steel bars are, look up a video of deadlift competitions. Those bars look like theyre about to snap sometimes.
@alilalani9531 Жыл бұрын
pov: you are looking for the comments calling him sexist
@nutmeg4000
Жыл бұрын
he really isnt sexist tho, it's funny that ppl think he is
@Overkillvr2
Жыл бұрын
LOL
@alilalani9531
Жыл бұрын
@@nutmeg4000 i can’t even find anyone saying he’s sexist!!!!!
@bellebonebag8096
Жыл бұрын
@@nutmeg4000The whole point of this comment was that there's barely any people calling him sexist. Everyone is just assuming that there is.
@nutmeg4000
Жыл бұрын
@@bellebonebag8096i saw em lmao
@huntersanderson2803 Жыл бұрын
Since the bars flexibility is important, many women probly couldent get as much of a spring out of the steel bars as they can with the wooden ones, thus its just a change based on the average weight of the competitors. Im sure if female gymnist average 180 pounds overnight they would switch to steel pretty fast
@Leo-Eastwood Жыл бұрын
anyone else searching for triggered people screaming in the comments?
@Bjorja
Жыл бұрын
Yep
@pinchylobster7392
Жыл бұрын
yes sir. newest comments is funny
@whatnamelol1835
Жыл бұрын
Yep
@kaiajackson8538
Жыл бұрын
Oh they are here
@Cash62711
Жыл бұрын
Yep😊
@alissalonsdale860 Жыл бұрын
I remember when I did gymnastics, the bar was my favourite, but it also gave me anxiety because of how much it bent
@0jacon0ice0 Жыл бұрын
makes sense on the women's end. Generally lighter weight, so the strength can be sacrificed for flexibility. Since they wouldn't be able to flex the bar as much on average. Just hope they'd swap it out if a girl game up who happened to be heavy enough, sounds like a risk otherwise.
@Dream.big.dreams Жыл бұрын
He answered a question I didn’t even know I had asked.
@Summerr_foreva Жыл бұрын
Why TF the lights be flickering like that tho 😂😂😂😂
@Lambzalot
Жыл бұрын
Technically shutter speed is wrong, but, essentially the same idea.
@galaxyinc.6955 Жыл бұрын
I have learned so much about gymnastics through this channel
@unicorncupcakies Жыл бұрын
after years, i finally know why the bars are different 😭😔
@mehchannel161
Жыл бұрын
it was clear why lmao
@cloroxlavenderscent4307 Жыл бұрын
Switches the bar for copper for some excitement
@aadityasahoo6244 Жыл бұрын
to everyone saying the guy is sexist.. he's talking about on average. outliers do exist. and others who are saying things like "and women want equality☕".. just because they use a different bar doesn't mean it requires the same strength. in fact because fiber isn't as elastic as steel, the woman needs more strength to reach high up in the air as compared to the man. to all these PPL, I'd like to see them try to even get close to what the women who are at the top of this field can do. if you can't do it yourself, no point in bitching about anyone else who can atleast do something. edit: damn i think i started a war
@SenkaBandit
Жыл бұрын
no one is saying he’s sexist, it’s just that everyone is saying people are calling him sexiest
@Valerie90986
Жыл бұрын
@@SenkaBandit they are calling him sexist and they are just being jealous bitches
@Mimix-o
Жыл бұрын
Nobody’s was saying he was sexist this comment was not needed
@Mimix-o
Жыл бұрын
@@Valerie90986 i checked the comment section and never seen anyone complain 🤦🏽♀️ you’re so dumb
@leoplays8118
Жыл бұрын
@@Mimix-o I seen 20 comments calling him sexist do your research before talking 🤦♂️
@jaidenhenry2759 Жыл бұрын
Short answer: it's different because men are larger and heavier than women so they need a stronger bar that won't break.
@YRO.
7 ай бұрын
Not only that, but the moves they do are different
@aShadowWizard69 Жыл бұрын
I think the difference between the male and female simply comes down to men having more body mass, most of the time, then women and are putting greater force on the bar. Thus steel versus the wood/fiberglass bars
@comradedyatlov4143 Жыл бұрын
Also, men's gymnastics tends to be a show of strength and agility meanwhile the women's seems to be more about speed and elegance
@killiansirishbeer Жыл бұрын
I'm always impressed by the coaches and trainers when you see them "safe" their gymnasts. Some have amazing reflexes 🤩
@rxsberry5800 Жыл бұрын
the womens bar is wood because it's utilized for grip strength and we dont do as many jumps and fly aways
@Tropically5
Жыл бұрын
We also go on the bars stand on the bar and do more trick if there is a second bar so it needs to be wider
@rxsberry5800
Жыл бұрын
@@Tropically5 exactly!!
@rxsberry5800
Жыл бұрын
@@kristincusick1342 thats what i was saying too
@84rinne_moo
Жыл бұрын
Also I know the uneven bars first started out as a set of parallel bars with one bar set to a different height
@magdolyn
Жыл бұрын
@@84rinne_moo This. Hence, wood. They were never meant to be treated like a high bar. They've evolved into a new event in their own right that descended from p bars.
@richardwoo3574 Жыл бұрын
Historically, the women’s uneven bars were the men’s parallel bars set at different heights. As skills progressed the bars evolved to be further apart and the actual rail used to be oval like the parallel bars. Now it’s round. That’s the main reason why the bars are wood, because they came from wooden p-bars.
@k.hizzle5376 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has done gymnastics on both. Both work great and both hurt, like a lot.
@vasudev8421 Жыл бұрын
I didn't even know it was steel,it flexes sooo much. Imagine hitting the back of your neck on that with that much momentum
@i8lvm_1738
Жыл бұрын
yoo, same pfp 😎😎
@magdolyn
Жыл бұрын
Spotters save lives. Literally.
@Lunibun3 Жыл бұрын
I’m a gymnastics coach for levels 2 and up and I’ll be honest, the men are more incline to use the steel bars rather that the others ones we have, because aswell as my gym having steel bars we also have wooden ones! But the steel is used by all people, because women can have just as much force on the bar as men, the wooden is used most by the kids and teens but the adults (no matter what gender) are free to use those when they wish, however we do heavily state that if your practicing a routine to use the steel bars.
@iloveraquelle Жыл бұрын
Why is this comment section a war of men and women? Both are amazing 🤩
@KysEcstacy
Жыл бұрын
Fr like wth
@NoThankUBeQuiet
Жыл бұрын
Men and women doing the same sports should have the same events. Period.
@lyndseylou22
Жыл бұрын
Honestly
@charlesfamilyfriendsfurret8976
Жыл бұрын
Thanks bro. You’re the true neutral here
@TRIPLECHAD
Жыл бұрын
i saw one where it said men use wood bars. i think thats chad for getting those splinters.
@imarealwitch1154 Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was made out of plastic because of how it bends
@ssussysamel1702 Жыл бұрын
I could hear his fear when he says " average "
@acevadergames2260
Жыл бұрын
Yeah 😢
@padalox2518 Жыл бұрын
Nahh I see so many comments complaining about all the people saying he’s being sexist but I don’t see anyone saying that 💀
@idk-hy6pg
Жыл бұрын
Fax
@HORROR4EVER
Жыл бұрын
frrr i’m trying to find one
@oldboyiscool4040 Жыл бұрын
Another thing with steel, it can deform, and if not put under too much stress, can keep doing it for pretty much an infinite amount of time. But for example, iron, if you keep twisting it, it breaks
@francisravi7651 Жыл бұрын
Bro, don't even show this to anyone who has a twitter account 💀
@Quccifer Жыл бұрын
“these are made out of steel” my stupid ass: wasn’t it plastic??
@goatcraft1304 Жыл бұрын
Seriously though why are people getting offended by basic science these days?
@tired7896
Жыл бұрын
It was a question not an argument. Unless you mean some of these comments.
@lxvenderjewel Жыл бұрын
not the entire gender war in the comments 💀
@cringer592
Жыл бұрын
No one cares
@randomyoutuber4189
9 ай бұрын
@@cringer592everybody fucking cares that’s why there’s a war in the first place
@paulrenville7757 Жыл бұрын
Always been amazed at how people can fling around and not break these
@MaddizonDannie Жыл бұрын
Want to point out how strength heavy male gymnastics is compared to women's gymnastics. Women don't do routines 100% on their hands but the pommel horse, rings, AND parallel bars exist. Muscle is heavy AF and women's gymnastics misses an entire muscle group *compared* to men's
@shannonbrown8588 Жыл бұрын
If you notice I’m the olympics the top female gymnasts tend to be smaller people, not in muscle but in height and overall weight I think that might be what he means when he is saying they might not be bending the bar as much. It’s not a strength thing it’s a build thing.
@pepelepepe
Жыл бұрын
Could be both because build, as in the bone composition and density does affect the torque, meaning force, applied by the skeletal muscles. Ex: Males have longer arms so the arm lever system for them creates more force in comparison to a woman. In addition, Males have more fast twitch fibers than women, which affects their source of substance use. Men use more carbohydrates, which is less energy but a quicker source, than lipids, which is what women tend to rely on for fuel. This quickness of energy availability can impact the prolonged use of power/force used by the muscles during the short period of the routine and, likewise, affecting the amount of stress on the bar.
@unclebary1866
Жыл бұрын
You could have all the strength in the world, if youre hanging on a steel bar theres nothing you could do to break it with brute strength
@pepelepepe
Жыл бұрын
@@unclebary1866 Not with brute strength but through stress. The young man did not use brute strength rather he stressed the bar with his weight and some force applied to build momentum/swing himself around, but not necessarily brute strength. Although, good point, females are less likely to break the steel bar and if brute strength was the only factor, the male is more likely to bend/break the bar while the female would barely even come close to doing the same.
@chubbybutterflies8971
Жыл бұрын
Also the bar tricks in women's gymnastics are usually more precise and slower, rather than flying around more.
@unclebary1866
Жыл бұрын
@스웨그 are u dumb, I didnt say you could break the bar with strength I said the exact opposite
@rmsfavoritelilcrab4006 Жыл бұрын
This is fascinating. I never knew they were different materials. The more you know
@tasby103 Жыл бұрын
Made from wood and fibre glass Splinters: slow me to introduce myself
@frostytheiceberg1127 Жыл бұрын
It must be strong, and it must be flexible. Just like the men and women who use it!
@butterfly_skies
Жыл бұрын
fr
@princesslogos Жыл бұрын
Yall ever seen one of them bars snap??? Holy shite
@nicklecy8475 Жыл бұрын
That backflip of and then on the bar was SICK
@soup331emd5 Жыл бұрын
Okay but can we talk about that spotter.
@swigityswoner4868 Жыл бұрын
The uneven bars used to be ajusted p bars, thats why theyre wood
@vvvvICHvvvv Жыл бұрын
Small fact on the side. Glass fibers have a significantly higher tensile strength than steel. So if glass fiber-reinforced materials are used for the women, they can theoretically withstand even higher loads. However, other factors also play a role, such as load and fiber orientation.
@3nc1ave45
Жыл бұрын
Me and the boys about to go make a skyscraper out of glass
@TheCartoonMaskGaming11 ай бұрын
Well that didnt stop ian from SNAPPING THE BAR IN HALF
@RAMZAVFX Жыл бұрын
My 1st guess would be because men with muscle tend to weigh about double a female hense needing a strong material.
@Bibis-zw8ie
Жыл бұрын
Also men are stronger
@Oniwabanhammer Жыл бұрын
people also forget that 'steel' is a category of metals with a large range of different properties. The gymnastics bar (more like a pipe actually) is not made of the same steel used for tank armor.
@Fuzzysea693
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was confused when he said steel is “flexible” when beams that construct buildings are made of steel.
@dinamitemaster
Жыл бұрын
@@Fuzzysea693 Actually structural beams also bend to an extent - by design. Skyscrapers, bridges etc. are designed to flex with the wind and large ships are designed to flex with the waves. One of the reasons steel is so useful as a construction material.
@bellebonebag8096
Жыл бұрын
@@dinamitemaster Exactly. If the metal beams in buildings weren't flexible, then they would be very vulnerable to earthquakes.
@IcyPig_Edward
10 ай бұрын
The bar is completely solid
@toonclip353 Жыл бұрын
The thing that scares me in gymnastics is when your feet are inches from hitting the bar.
@Sirens.Lullaby
Жыл бұрын
He did another which relates to this! It's abt the spotters who push the cushion onto the bar
@toonclip353
Жыл бұрын
@@Sirens.Lullaby Thanks for letting me know
@thatonejester3387 Жыл бұрын
I feel like we've advanced enough to the point where making these bars safer could earn the person who found a safer alternative a lot of money
@democraticrepublicofzibers7112
Жыл бұрын
No
@sduoqsoq7478
Жыл бұрын
these bars cant be any safer
@Kj16V Жыл бұрын
Another KZread video that answered the intriguing questions I never thought to ask.
@runway65949 ай бұрын
The “On average” saved his life
@writingisfun9842 Жыл бұрын
I didn't realize steel was flexible.
@Kevin-dt9xm
Жыл бұрын
Steels elasticity (that is, its ability to just bend and spring back under force that would break other materials) is actually the main reason its useful. Most springs are made of steel, as are many cables, and even strings for instruments (piano wire is steel, as are many guitar strings). If you wanna see big steel bars flexing, look up a video of a deadlift competition, those bars look like the weights are just gonna slide off the ends from how much they bend.
@michellen5704
Жыл бұрын
That’s why buildings use rebar
@laddiebuggie8018 Жыл бұрын
I was in gymnastics for six years and always used the wood one…
@tradingadventurer8994 Жыл бұрын
What on gods green earth are the lights doing
@christinebutler7630 Жыл бұрын
The women are around 4'9" and weigh around 85-90 lbs, which changes the equation a lot.
@kidshaldeman2091
Жыл бұрын
Damn, what women have you been living with?
@sirthisisawendys811
Жыл бұрын
Where did you get these statistics bro? 🤣 That is severely underweight
@christinebutler7630
Жыл бұрын
Not underweight for extremely short height. Look at the stats for Olympic gymnasts. They're tiny.
@sirthisisawendys811
Жыл бұрын
@@christinebutler7630 Ooh I misread 4'9 for 5'9, I'm sorry 😅
@Goriaas
Жыл бұрын
@@christinebutler7630 Male gymasts are small to compared to the average man
@waluigiapologist8170 Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna use a steel bar in women's practice, that shit seems fun
@worxyboi4838 Жыл бұрын
Men probably weigh a lot more as well
@cdmilky
Жыл бұрын
Men's gymnists muscles weigh a lot, women's less
@CoolboiWasHere Жыл бұрын
I like how he says on average so quickly as if he’s keeps forgetting to say it 😂
@patcomerford5596 Жыл бұрын
Drawing the black line is great. So interesting - thank you.
@qualitypudding Жыл бұрын
I never noticed how much the bar bends! How cool!
@steve4729 Жыл бұрын
This seems like people would want to cancel it…
@Archalias100 Жыл бұрын
I think this is the first time I’ve truly appreciated the level of skill gymnastics take. The near perfect control over the body and momentum, the precise and timed movements in the air, it’s breathtaking.
@EmptyGlass99 Жыл бұрын
These are great details we don't normally see.
@deveshsiroha4625 Жыл бұрын
Come on Nothing in this video is misogynist It's just facts 😂😂😂
@waileadude8915 Жыл бұрын
Is no one gonna talk about the DOUBLE BACK off of a highbar???
@logger1176 Жыл бұрын
ah, the end was helpful. i was wondering why i had thought it was wood
@puffball4484 Жыл бұрын
Steel bars are used for training in women's gymnastics lmao. They would be incredibly unsafe for uneven bars because you'd fly too high and not be able to transition as safely between bars. It's so much easier to throw a skill on a steel bar because of the height it give you.
@wheezeardjack Жыл бұрын
How come women change between two and men use the one? Both are scary as hell, don’t get me wrong, but changing between two sounds terrifying and hitting your legs on steel is just as spooky. Edit: I found this but I’m still confused, “Of course, women's uneven bars require a tremendous amount of upper body strength, but, as Dvora Meyers at Jezebel pointed out, having a lower bar gives women something to rest their legs on; women generally carry more of their weight in their lower bodies than men.”
@Phantom-bh5ru
Жыл бұрын
Basically men and women gymnastics are different to account for the different physical builds of men and women.
@conquistadorrocket
Жыл бұрын
Women's uneven bars evolved from men's parallel bars. The first bars women used were just a set of p bars with one being raised all the way up and one being pretty low. Since then, over the decades, the bars have become more sophisticated and set further apart for more/different skills. Meyers from Jezebel has no idea what she's talking about. There is no resting on the bars at all.
If you have jet fuel on your hands and your performance is fire, will it melt?
@alh.21
Жыл бұрын
No, but it’ll critically deform under the weight of the balls needed
@xgods9192
Жыл бұрын
Are you high, Kayla?
@caylovesart4 ай бұрын
"Steel is a strong material" not you once breaking the bar 😂😂
@FaithySlays_Period Жыл бұрын
I think his best event is definitely the bars! I wish I could do that 😭
@connormcleod9895 Жыл бұрын
Flexibility has nothing to do with it though. It'd be more accurate to say it's because of the toughness and hardness. It could also be accurate to say elastic deformation too. And why oh why that material? Well, 'cause if it's made of aluminium or copper, you'll soon figure out that guy Newtown was right...
@boekenlover Жыл бұрын
Actully womans bar are wooden bc, that they stand on it and spring over and if you stand on the metal bar and spring you go to high and if you spring over and its to bandy they may fall
@wintermelon3818
Жыл бұрын
Why are you lying? Men stand on it too...
@boekenlover
Жыл бұрын
@@wintermelon3818 but do they spring to a other bar and bc woman have smaller body's but that is'nt sed like a thousend times
@fundymentalism Жыл бұрын
Steel doesn't fatigue, either, as long as you don't go past a certain stress point. And it's cheap.
@danieljones1635 Жыл бұрын
Women's bars developed from men's Pbars. They initially just offset them, then used spreaders to get a tilt that eventually turned into a new apparatus. It's about an evolution in design, not so much about the power of the skills. It could be argued that the difference in the power of the skills was shaped by the evolution in equipment design.
@BurningAnimations Жыл бұрын
both kinds of gymnastics are incredible also: oh you were talking about the bar bending, not your back😅
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also the grip used is different between men’s and women’s gymnastics because with women’s we’re switching between the two bars instead of being on one. and female gymnasts are lighter on average due to the higher demand for flexibility in women’s gymnastics compared to men’s.
@marialindell9874
Жыл бұрын
999/1k likes
@samalama210
Жыл бұрын
@@muffinconsumer4106bro what
@TakecenterStage
Жыл бұрын
This seems like the best comment on the video. Thank you for this!
@rOceans-XbL
Жыл бұрын
@scarlet_message3207how is that in anyway sexist? women get 2 bars be grateful
@beepboopbap23
Жыл бұрын
@scarlet_message3207 No it’s isn’t, women are proven to be lighter then men.
Ok so I’m a female competitive gymnast, and for all the people complaining about him saying women won’t do as many powerful swings on the bar, it’s true. He’s completely right because not only are our routines different and don’t incorporate the same kind of moves as men and also, women are lighter than men on average. He’s just saying facts.
@joeyboudreaux8504
Жыл бұрын
And it's exactly what's different between the two. Women's gymnastics show cases the beauty, elegance and grace of the performers. Men's shows off power and finesse. It's incredibly difficult even for professional gymnasts to perform the other genders routins.
@Unbelievable6000
Жыл бұрын
I agree
@mgsquared5204
Жыл бұрын
@NQH only weird people feel the need to make this comment. What a strange thing to say. Have a Capri-sun and get off the internet for a few… years.
@popmasteralan5594
Жыл бұрын
@@mgsquared5204 ???
@bigmaxmer1556
Жыл бұрын
@@mgsquared5204 cry about it my god
Not sure if someone commented this, but women's gymnastics also used to involve a lot of "bouncing" moves. They'd purposefully wack their thighs/hips against the bars to bounce between the low/high bars. You can't do a giant on the low bar to build up momentum/get that bend he's talking about, so instead momentum was conserved by litterally smacking into the thing. So, yeah, steel would've been less than ideal.
@colbey32
Жыл бұрын
Men's parallel bars are also made of wood and fiber glass. They can also be offest and adjusted into a position reminiscent to "beat bars", or how uneven bars used to be set. Female gymnasts used to bounce and swing from bar to bar. The bars were also not a cylinder shape, they had the same shape as parallel bars.
@yuukinoyuki9064
Жыл бұрын
@@colbey32 Yup, back in the days when you could stand on the bar and do a backhandspring to catch it. I'd add that the bars used to be just wood, fiberglass was added because they just kept breaking, lol.
@magdolyn
Жыл бұрын
@@colbey32 In Turnen (a Sport) in Switzerland, the Stufebarren are exactly that, parallel bars set at different heights. What's really fun is we'll do routines with multiple people (sometimes even mixed men and women) and multiple sets of bars. It's super fun and really reminiscent of the old days, especially when bouncing off the lower bar back up to the top bar or holding the top bar, catching the low bar with your hips, and going straight into a back hip circle. Just gotta bend the knees on the circle so you don't crack your shins on the high bar. 😅
@ahstiasummers5583
6 ай бұрын
The old uneven bars were originally placed so close that the gymnast could hang by their arms from the taller and have their hips/thighs lay on the shorter
To all the comments, women's and men's gymnastics shouldn't even be compared tbh. They're basically two different things. One's more involved in flexibility and the other's more involved in strength. They'd both fail trying each other's sports so that just shows how different it is. The only real thing they have in common is flipping around but that's basically it. And they're not even doing it the same way either so like...
@magdolyn
Жыл бұрын
OMG, thank you for being one of the rare sane ones here! There's really zero comparison between the two, which is why the bars are made out of different materials! Different goals, different routines, different bars. And they all seem to forget that parallel bars are also wooden...
@nunyanothing1408
9 ай бұрын
There are actually similarities, such as the same events ( As in shared events like the floor and vault), they both have difficulty and execution scores they both have bars just made out of different materials. So they are both gymnastics, just different ways of doing things. So in certain aspects you can compare but they do have a LOT of differences. We are sane, and people just need to figure out how and when you can compare the 2.
@nunyanothing1408
9 ай бұрын
They also fail at each other's events because girls are naturally more flexible and have practiced balance beam or uneven bar and guys haven't. Same with if a girl tried pommel horse it would be so different because we don't do skill like that. You can compare the two but certain aspects you can't.
@overgrownkudzu
8 ай бұрын
yeah, uneven bars are a completely different apparatus, some skills are just similar.
@missserenity1090
8 ай бұрын
Exactly, there’s multiple series I’ve seen from different gymnasts where a man and a woman who are both either competitive or pro (or both in the case of pros) will swap and test out how good they are at the other genders skill set that the other person is trained for. The results are always entertaining and it shows just how different the two sports are since often each person struggles with the skill set they’re not familiar with/trained for.
“Steel was also chosen because of its strength” He literally showed that he broke the bar in one of his videos 😂 How many li-
@GrimAgent
Жыл бұрын
Yes but obviously that doesnt happen a lot Why so many likesssss
@MrA6060
Жыл бұрын
They're made of fiberglass. If they were still they would never snap like that, they would bend. I see too many braindead people that are just accepting "facts" from KZread and it's scary tbh
@dluoultra9633
Жыл бұрын
@filipaleksander2694 oh yea ur right. I'm literally taking a class on how steel breaks and it does not snap like that because it's ductile.
@adabitterhand4011
Жыл бұрын
And he also chose to break the bar. Like you could see how much he was swinging on it.
@josephconley1599
Жыл бұрын
@@adabitterhand4011 um no. That's just how to tap for a skill called a tkatchev
Hey! I'm going to add another reason here: when materials repeatedly experience stresses, they can end up breaking even if it's wayyy below their yield point. Steel is one of the materials that has a fatigue limit, that means it will never break as long as the applied stress stays below a certain value.
@sci-fye1388
Жыл бұрын
He broke one once
@celesefernal2490
Жыл бұрын
@@sci-fye1388 well if enough stress is applied then it can still break. But this is better than a lot of materials that will break over time regardless of the loading.
@autumn5592
Жыл бұрын
All it needs to do is reach plastic deformation point. It doesn't matter how much past it it goes, it all adds up, so over months, years, or decades, you can work harden the pole, causing it to break 'randomly.'
@Kevin-dt9xm
Жыл бұрын
@@autumn5592 thats what he means, as long as the deformation stays below that threshold, you can deform it over and over forever.
@ashenmoonclash
Жыл бұрын
Actually with stresses like this over time steels properties change. Every bend creates heat. It may seam miniscule but added up it wall harden further but be more prone to shear then.
“Steel was chosen because of its strength” Not that one time Ian 😭
"On average" bro did his best not to turn this into a gender war so cut him some slack😭
@galymzhankyrykbaev2976
Жыл бұрын
Yes those gender war become new holy wars
@personx1646
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s crazy how people can turn that around so easily, cuz yes mass and strength is on average greater in men, but that doesn’t mean women aren’t amazing at the sport
@Blackw1ng
Жыл бұрын
Honestly glad he at least tried. I like his content but God do people in the comments fight for no reason to pit genders against each other.
@brandonsg1367
Жыл бұрын
They’d be offended for him telling the truth
@intreoo
Жыл бұрын
People are really turning basic biology into a war..
Why are people turning this into a gender war? Most female gymnasts are smaller therefore it would be harder to bend steel bars. They use different bars to accommodate size, short male gymnasts would have to use the wood bars, and larger women will have to use steel and vice versa. I don’t think that’s very difficult to grasp. Is it?
@sturniolo8284
Жыл бұрын
Fr
@HighkeyBlitz
Жыл бұрын
Aint no way they tryna say this is sexist💀
@michaelkelly4533
Жыл бұрын
In today's day you cant really comment on any differences without someone having a problem with it
@OGNotSoFun
Жыл бұрын
For real bro,
@stephenkillin9730
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelkelly4533true
also women (especially gymnasts!!) are physically A LOT smaller than men, so they can't exert the same amount of force on the bar as a guy. like most gymnasts are around 5'0 and are physically fit, so they don't have much weight to actually bend the bar with as opposed to a man. i'm not sure if male gymnasts end up being shorter than average as well, ive never paid much attention to mens gymnastics :p
@aureus79
Жыл бұрын
He literally said this in the video
@dekusi1857
Жыл бұрын
@@aureus79 not exactly, he said men are on average stronger, which is true! but in case anyone thought "that can't be the only reason, there's strong female gymnasts too", i gave a different explanation:p
@shazana1058
Жыл бұрын
Shhhhhh! Don't speak of such things! You'll bring upon yourself the hoard of people who will call you sexist for speaking of basic biology.
@joaopeixoto6224
Жыл бұрын
I'm taller than the average female gymnast
@Ayaforshort
Жыл бұрын
@@shazana1058 Not sexist to acknowledge physiological differences why applicable and relevant. Most people get up in arms about trying to say men and women have different emotional and intellectual ability. Most women know that a weaker man is sometimes stronger than a strong women. For example.
I wonder, who the hell thought of this as a sport? I mean, it seems so weird to think someone one day decided to start spinning around a branch tree or something, but when you see it in action, it really does feel like a natural fit for humans to be doing it.
@thedevilsadvocate5210
Жыл бұрын
stick whacking has been around since the dawn of civilization.
@fnausi7381
Жыл бұрын
Monkeys
@judas1213
Жыл бұрын
We're basically just less hairy monkies, it's really not that surprising
@KawaiiStars
Жыл бұрын
training used for soldiers probably
@maiaraandrade1952
Жыл бұрын
Oh! Finally a normal comment! The strangest part of this sport is that we didn't drop it 100y ago but actually developed technology to do even more crazy shit in those bars lol
Fun fact, steel bars are usually used in female gymnastics to train new skills. Oftentimes we'll use gloves to make it easier to glide around the bar and make us practice the technique before progressing to the wooden bar. However steel bars also require a different grip than wooden ones, so it'll still feel very different.
@ae2948
Жыл бұрын
The men's bar is also SO MUCH EASIER to hold on to. And no one here is mentions it. So much ignorant nonsense about women's spines. No one mentions that the gymnasts with the smaller hands are the ones who have to manage with the thicker bars. its much easier to peel off the thicker bar and end up on the mat.
@Bella-m-Bella-m
10 ай бұрын
Also some gyms put like a plastic bar with tape around without gloves
@miharibic7817
8 ай бұрын
@ae2948 are u a women? Because you said SO MUCH EASIER TO HOLD ON MENS BAR THAN WOMENS. Because i think its very equal❤
@fuckingstupidthatihavetoma2528
7 ай бұрын
@@ae2948 wow those are some mental gymnastics... smoking that copium pipe dumb feminist
Just want to add that wood+fiberglass is also an extremely strong combination !
@rainbowflowerpower4464
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying that, I’m not a gymnast so when I heard that the women’s is fibreglass my first thought was concern about the bar’s strength, bare hands near snapped fibreglass is a terrifying image so I’m glad to hear the bar is suitably strong
@mussy9387
Жыл бұрын
@@rainbowflowerpower4464 the bars do occasionally break, but since women gymnasts are normally incredibly light (Simone Biles is 4'8" and 100 pounds) it does not break under the pressure most times. men gymnasts however can't use these bars because they on average weigh 100 pounds more
@timohara7717
Жыл бұрын
Yea it sound pretty consirning
@bellebonebag8096
Жыл бұрын
I often got painful blisters on my hands from gripping my wooden broom/mop handle when I cleaned my kitchen floor. And I'm not sure if this is comparable to chalk that gymnasts use, but I often had my hands covered in flour from baking my cakes, and I still got blisters. My grandma had a mop with an aluminum stick, and I didn't get blisters from gripping it when I used it to mop her floor. Since then, I made the switch to the aluminum stick, and I never got blisters again. It's also satisfyingly cool to the touch. Now don't get me wrong, I don't know if it works the same way in gymnastics. Maybe it's a different case for you guys and you don't get blisters because of the chalk, but I honestly think they should all be metal.
@magdolyn
Жыл бұрын
@@bellebonebag8096 Everyone gets blisters and calluses, and sometimes the calluses will rip off and bleed. Bar work is SUPER rough on the hands.
Also mens shiny bar is thinner than a woman's wooden bar, if you ever see a close up on how they grip the bar men will grip the bar like a bike handle (4 fingers on top and the thumb under) but a womens bar you can't do that so there thumb sits on the same side as the finger (sort of like a sloth)
@sandcrab3188
Жыл бұрын
This is just.., not true. I did womens gymnastics until JO level 8. You switch your grip depending on the element. There are lots of elements where you grip with the thumb on the other side of the bar.
@retrovi4128
Жыл бұрын
Ummm look again. The woman grips it with her thumb as well.
@retrovi4128
Жыл бұрын
Wrong.
@jinja-ninga97c21
Жыл бұрын
I just had a quick and your right it's really fast and you miss it, tbh I did the sport myself for a LONG time and I never used my thumbs AT ALL...
@cibiwishtan1881
Жыл бұрын
Toxic femininity
POV: Your scrolling through comments looking for sexist comments
@nihiladest8688
Жыл бұрын
Literally me
@rishidixit3983
Жыл бұрын
Everyone talking about the gender war when there is none
@bradirv
Жыл бұрын
they fighting invisible people ong
@xxdogxx3637
Жыл бұрын
@@rishidixit3983yeah
@maiaraandrade1952
Жыл бұрын
Antipsychotics would do wonders in this comment section.
The lights: ◻️◼️ ◻️◼️ ◻️◼️ ◻️◼️ ◻️◼️ ◻️◼️ ◻️◼️ ◻️◼️ ◻️◼️ ◻️◼️ ◻️◼️ ◻️◼️ ◻️◼️
@bellebonebag8096
Жыл бұрын
LMAOOO
@leah_lol.
6 сағат бұрын
I was looking for this
As a gymnast I would say the women’s bar is a lot better because it is more easier to grip on the bar so that’s my opinion
@PersonManGuy
Жыл бұрын
Idk when my coach makes me do giants on the girls bar, I am veeerryy hesitant. I like my thumbs wrapped 😂
@lilyadams-shaw2370
Жыл бұрын
it’s easier to grip ur u do also get A LOT of blisters from the women’s bars we were tested on the boys equipment once and with the men’s bars they r a lot more cold and slippery and you don’t get blisters from them even when u rnt wearing hand guards
@Your_Local_Moron
Жыл бұрын
Because women typically don't need thicker bars usually because women are usually smaller and weigh less
@joaopeixoto6224
Жыл бұрын
The guy in this video broke a steel bar while using it He would break the other bars on a daily basis 😐
@isi2973
Жыл бұрын
As a male child I liked gymnastics in sports lessons, then came puberty. I wish we would hace changed from steel to carbon fibre, cause boy o boy was that uncomfortable. ^^ ( and yes we have both ground and air gymnastics in sports lessons here in germany )
I like the emphasis he had “on average” 😂
Two guys in my gymnast group managed to brake one of those bars🤣
"Steel was chosen because of its strength" Ian you broke one-
@grischad20
6 ай бұрын
so because steel broke once all of the building that are standing because of the steel rebar will fall?
@SlavCatt
5 ай бұрын
Steel is one of the strongest metals that has a good amount of malleability, therefore is the best option, also he was trying to break the bar in that video
It's also because there's a difference in the point of balance between men and women. Women's point of balance is closer to their hips, while men's is more towards the chest area. Which means men need more of a swing to flip and do gymnastics. 🤸♀️ 🤸♂️
@djdavisiscool
Жыл бұрын
What does that have to do when an entire person is coming down on a pole. your center of balance does not matter in that case.
@Artoast_AQ
Жыл бұрын
@@djdavisiscool that's pecause when you're sliding down a pole you're going down straight, in a vertical line. With a gymnastics bar your doing tricks on a horizontal bar, thus using that fact.
@djdavisiscool
Жыл бұрын
@@Artoast_AQ what does the center of gravity have to do with how much the bar bends. You were swinging on the pole all of your weight is going in that direction it doesn't matter where your center of gravity is force is force.
@Artoast_AQ
Жыл бұрын
@@djdavisiscool listen, ok? Google it. Good day 👋
@wynsonrao5177
Жыл бұрын
@@djdavisiscoolwhen you're swing around the bar the center of mass absolutely matters; since women's center is lower down their bodies it's further from the bar(the axis of rotation) so they accelerate around it more easily
Coming to the comments to see the chaos this man is about to ensue 🤣
@aeropulse1392
Жыл бұрын
😂
oh my god the comments are atrocious, women don’t need steel bars because we aren’t as big and don’t force the bar as much as men. he never said it’s a bad thing and while we are not biologically equal we can be equally talented and skilled in our own ways
@1minime2
Жыл бұрын
right, it's common sense... the society went a lil bit crazy with the feminism mentality, manipulating it so easily, twisting the original idea of equality. you explained it very well, to me
@jimmyengland428
Жыл бұрын
Shut up hole.
@noxturne16
Жыл бұрын
@@jimmyengland428 wtf??
@declanhugors
Жыл бұрын
I like to think of male and female roles as food and water. Food can't prevent dehydration, and water can't prevent starvation. Both are equally essential, but they have different strengths and weaknesses. One is not more valuable than the other
@noxturne16
Жыл бұрын
@@declanhugors eloquently said 👏
I’m no expert, but it seems a lot like the men typically use the bar to launch themselves while women use their feet more.
The way he says „on average" so he wont get cancelled
@shay4261
Жыл бұрын
or maybe he just said on average and not everyone is permanently online
@Mimix-o
Жыл бұрын
? Werido
@aster2790
Жыл бұрын
@@shay4261 he didn't say that men bend them more on average tho so your reason can't be true
@shay4261
Жыл бұрын
@@aster2790 he did..
@aster2790
Жыл бұрын
@@shay4261 oh ok then lmao
womens gymnastics also switch between two bars multiple time rather than being on the one. women gymnasts are also generally smaller and lighter because of the flexibility and flippy stuff they do whereas mens gymnastics focuses mostly on upper body strength
I do pole vault, and our poles are all made out of fiber glass. They are incredibly incredibly strong and flexible, even though they do rarely break. These poles can basically bend upside down while still snapping back up flinging a 100 something or 200 pound man.
Until recently, i also didn't realize that it was a solid core bar. For whatever reason, I thought they were kinda hollow to give it that flexibility.
@Kevin-dt9xm
Жыл бұрын
Nah, hollow bars are actually worse when you need them to bend, as they will tend towards crumpling instead of just bowing. If you wanna see just how flexible solid steel bars are, look up a video of deadlift competitions. Those bars look like theyre about to snap sometimes.
pov: you are looking for the comments calling him sexist
@nutmeg4000
Жыл бұрын
he really isnt sexist tho, it's funny that ppl think he is
@Overkillvr2
Жыл бұрын
LOL
@alilalani9531
Жыл бұрын
@@nutmeg4000 i can’t even find anyone saying he’s sexist!!!!!
@bellebonebag8096
Жыл бұрын
@@nutmeg4000The whole point of this comment was that there's barely any people calling him sexist. Everyone is just assuming that there is.
@nutmeg4000
Жыл бұрын
@@bellebonebag8096i saw em lmao
Since the bars flexibility is important, many women probly couldent get as much of a spring out of the steel bars as they can with the wooden ones, thus its just a change based on the average weight of the competitors. Im sure if female gymnist average 180 pounds overnight they would switch to steel pretty fast
anyone else searching for triggered people screaming in the comments?
@Bjorja
Жыл бұрын
Yep
@pinchylobster7392
Жыл бұрын
yes sir. newest comments is funny
@whatnamelol1835
Жыл бұрын
Yep
@kaiajackson8538
Жыл бұрын
Oh they are here
@Cash62711
Жыл бұрын
Yep😊
I remember when I did gymnastics, the bar was my favourite, but it also gave me anxiety because of how much it bent
makes sense on the women's end. Generally lighter weight, so the strength can be sacrificed for flexibility. Since they wouldn't be able to flex the bar as much on average. Just hope they'd swap it out if a girl game up who happened to be heavy enough, sounds like a risk otherwise.
He answered a question I didn’t even know I had asked.
Why TF the lights be flickering like that tho 😂😂😂😂
@Lambzalot
Жыл бұрын
Technically shutter speed is wrong, but, essentially the same idea.
I have learned so much about gymnastics through this channel
after years, i finally know why the bars are different 😭😔
@mehchannel161
Жыл бұрын
it was clear why lmao
Switches the bar for copper for some excitement
to everyone saying the guy is sexist.. he's talking about on average. outliers do exist. and others who are saying things like "and women want equality☕".. just because they use a different bar doesn't mean it requires the same strength. in fact because fiber isn't as elastic as steel, the woman needs more strength to reach high up in the air as compared to the man. to all these PPL, I'd like to see them try to even get close to what the women who are at the top of this field can do. if you can't do it yourself, no point in bitching about anyone else who can atleast do something. edit: damn i think i started a war
@SenkaBandit
Жыл бұрын
no one is saying he’s sexist, it’s just that everyone is saying people are calling him sexiest
@Valerie90986
Жыл бұрын
@@SenkaBandit they are calling him sexist and they are just being jealous bitches
@Mimix-o
Жыл бұрын
Nobody’s was saying he was sexist this comment was not needed
@Mimix-o
Жыл бұрын
@@Valerie90986 i checked the comment section and never seen anyone complain 🤦🏽♀️ you’re so dumb
@leoplays8118
Жыл бұрын
@@Mimix-o I seen 20 comments calling him sexist do your research before talking 🤦♂️
Short answer: it's different because men are larger and heavier than women so they need a stronger bar that won't break.
@YRO.
7 ай бұрын
Not only that, but the moves they do are different
I think the difference between the male and female simply comes down to men having more body mass, most of the time, then women and are putting greater force on the bar. Thus steel versus the wood/fiberglass bars
Also, men's gymnastics tends to be a show of strength and agility meanwhile the women's seems to be more about speed and elegance
I'm always impressed by the coaches and trainers when you see them "safe" their gymnasts. Some have amazing reflexes 🤩
the womens bar is wood because it's utilized for grip strength and we dont do as many jumps and fly aways
@Tropically5
Жыл бұрын
We also go on the bars stand on the bar and do more trick if there is a second bar so it needs to be wider
@rxsberry5800
Жыл бұрын
@@Tropically5 exactly!!
@rxsberry5800
Жыл бұрын
@@kristincusick1342 thats what i was saying too
@84rinne_moo
Жыл бұрын
Also I know the uneven bars first started out as a set of parallel bars with one bar set to a different height
@magdolyn
Жыл бұрын
@@84rinne_moo This. Hence, wood. They were never meant to be treated like a high bar. They've evolved into a new event in their own right that descended from p bars.
Historically, the women’s uneven bars were the men’s parallel bars set at different heights. As skills progressed the bars evolved to be further apart and the actual rail used to be oval like the parallel bars. Now it’s round. That’s the main reason why the bars are wood, because they came from wooden p-bars.
As someone who has done gymnastics on both. Both work great and both hurt, like a lot.
I didn't even know it was steel,it flexes sooo much. Imagine hitting the back of your neck on that with that much momentum
@i8lvm_1738
Жыл бұрын
yoo, same pfp 😎😎
@magdolyn
Жыл бұрын
Spotters save lives. Literally.
I’m a gymnastics coach for levels 2 and up and I’ll be honest, the men are more incline to use the steel bars rather that the others ones we have, because aswell as my gym having steel bars we also have wooden ones! But the steel is used by all people, because women can have just as much force on the bar as men, the wooden is used most by the kids and teens but the adults (no matter what gender) are free to use those when they wish, however we do heavily state that if your practicing a routine to use the steel bars.
Why is this comment section a war of men and women? Both are amazing 🤩
@KysEcstacy
Жыл бұрын
Fr like wth
@NoThankUBeQuiet
Жыл бұрын
Men and women doing the same sports should have the same events. Period.
@lyndseylou22
Жыл бұрын
Honestly
@charlesfamilyfriendsfurret8976
Жыл бұрын
Thanks bro. You’re the true neutral here
@TRIPLECHAD
Жыл бұрын
i saw one where it said men use wood bars. i think thats chad for getting those splinters.
I always thought it was made out of plastic because of how it bends
I could hear his fear when he says " average "
@acevadergames2260
Жыл бұрын
Yeah 😢
Nahh I see so many comments complaining about all the people saying he’s being sexist but I don’t see anyone saying that 💀
@idk-hy6pg
Жыл бұрын
Fax
@HORROR4EVER
Жыл бұрын
frrr i’m trying to find one
Another thing with steel, it can deform, and if not put under too much stress, can keep doing it for pretty much an infinite amount of time. But for example, iron, if you keep twisting it, it breaks
Bro, don't even show this to anyone who has a twitter account 💀
“these are made out of steel” my stupid ass: wasn’t it plastic??
Seriously though why are people getting offended by basic science these days?
@tired7896
Жыл бұрын
It was a question not an argument. Unless you mean some of these comments.
not the entire gender war in the comments 💀
@cringer592
Жыл бұрын
No one cares
@randomyoutuber4189
9 ай бұрын
@@cringer592everybody fucking cares that’s why there’s a war in the first place
Always been amazed at how people can fling around and not break these
Want to point out how strength heavy male gymnastics is compared to women's gymnastics. Women don't do routines 100% on their hands but the pommel horse, rings, AND parallel bars exist. Muscle is heavy AF and women's gymnastics misses an entire muscle group *compared* to men's
If you notice I’m the olympics the top female gymnasts tend to be smaller people, not in muscle but in height and overall weight I think that might be what he means when he is saying they might not be bending the bar as much. It’s not a strength thing it’s a build thing.
@pepelepepe
Жыл бұрын
Could be both because build, as in the bone composition and density does affect the torque, meaning force, applied by the skeletal muscles. Ex: Males have longer arms so the arm lever system for them creates more force in comparison to a woman. In addition, Males have more fast twitch fibers than women, which affects their source of substance use. Men use more carbohydrates, which is less energy but a quicker source, than lipids, which is what women tend to rely on for fuel. This quickness of energy availability can impact the prolonged use of power/force used by the muscles during the short period of the routine and, likewise, affecting the amount of stress on the bar.
@unclebary1866
Жыл бұрын
You could have all the strength in the world, if youre hanging on a steel bar theres nothing you could do to break it with brute strength
@pepelepepe
Жыл бұрын
@@unclebary1866 Not with brute strength but through stress. The young man did not use brute strength rather he stressed the bar with his weight and some force applied to build momentum/swing himself around, but not necessarily brute strength. Although, good point, females are less likely to break the steel bar and if brute strength was the only factor, the male is more likely to bend/break the bar while the female would barely even come close to doing the same.
@chubbybutterflies8971
Жыл бұрын
Also the bar tricks in women's gymnastics are usually more precise and slower, rather than flying around more.
@unclebary1866
Жыл бұрын
@스웨그 are u dumb, I didnt say you could break the bar with strength I said the exact opposite
This is fascinating. I never knew they were different materials. The more you know
Made from wood and fibre glass Splinters: slow me to introduce myself
It must be strong, and it must be flexible. Just like the men and women who use it!
@butterfly_skies
Жыл бұрын
fr
Yall ever seen one of them bars snap??? Holy shite
That backflip of and then on the bar was SICK
Okay but can we talk about that spotter.
The uneven bars used to be ajusted p bars, thats why theyre wood
Small fact on the side. Glass fibers have a significantly higher tensile strength than steel. So if glass fiber-reinforced materials are used for the women, they can theoretically withstand even higher loads. However, other factors also play a role, such as load and fiber orientation.
@3nc1ave45
Жыл бұрын
Me and the boys about to go make a skyscraper out of glass
Well that didnt stop ian from SNAPPING THE BAR IN HALF
My 1st guess would be because men with muscle tend to weigh about double a female hense needing a strong material.
@Bibis-zw8ie
Жыл бұрын
Also men are stronger
people also forget that 'steel' is a category of metals with a large range of different properties. The gymnastics bar (more like a pipe actually) is not made of the same steel used for tank armor.
@Fuzzysea693
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was confused when he said steel is “flexible” when beams that construct buildings are made of steel.
@dinamitemaster
Жыл бұрын
@@Fuzzysea693 Actually structural beams also bend to an extent - by design. Skyscrapers, bridges etc. are designed to flex with the wind and large ships are designed to flex with the waves. One of the reasons steel is so useful as a construction material.
@bellebonebag8096
Жыл бұрын
@@dinamitemaster Exactly. If the metal beams in buildings weren't flexible, then they would be very vulnerable to earthquakes.
@IcyPig_Edward
10 ай бұрын
The bar is completely solid
The thing that scares me in gymnastics is when your feet are inches from hitting the bar.
@Sirens.Lullaby
Жыл бұрын
He did another which relates to this! It's abt the spotters who push the cushion onto the bar
@toonclip353
Жыл бұрын
@@Sirens.Lullaby Thanks for letting me know
I feel like we've advanced enough to the point where making these bars safer could earn the person who found a safer alternative a lot of money
@democraticrepublicofzibers7112
Жыл бұрын
No
@sduoqsoq7478
Жыл бұрын
these bars cant be any safer
Another KZread video that answered the intriguing questions I never thought to ask.
The “On average” saved his life
I didn't realize steel was flexible.
@Kevin-dt9xm
Жыл бұрын
Steels elasticity (that is, its ability to just bend and spring back under force that would break other materials) is actually the main reason its useful. Most springs are made of steel, as are many cables, and even strings for instruments (piano wire is steel, as are many guitar strings). If you wanna see big steel bars flexing, look up a video of a deadlift competition, those bars look like the weights are just gonna slide off the ends from how much they bend.
@michellen5704
Жыл бұрын
That’s why buildings use rebar
I was in gymnastics for six years and always used the wood one…
What on gods green earth are the lights doing
The women are around 4'9" and weigh around 85-90 lbs, which changes the equation a lot.
@kidshaldeman2091
Жыл бұрын
Damn, what women have you been living with?
@sirthisisawendys811
Жыл бұрын
Where did you get these statistics bro? 🤣 That is severely underweight
@christinebutler7630
Жыл бұрын
Not underweight for extremely short height. Look at the stats for Olympic gymnasts. They're tiny.
@sirthisisawendys811
Жыл бұрын
@@christinebutler7630 Ooh I misread 4'9 for 5'9, I'm sorry 😅
@Goriaas
Жыл бұрын
@@christinebutler7630 Male gymasts are small to compared to the average man
I'm gonna use a steel bar in women's practice, that shit seems fun
Men probably weigh a lot more as well
@cdmilky
Жыл бұрын
Men's gymnists muscles weigh a lot, women's less
I like how he says on average so quickly as if he’s keeps forgetting to say it 😂
Drawing the black line is great. So interesting - thank you.
I never noticed how much the bar bends! How cool!
This seems like people would want to cancel it…
I think this is the first time I’ve truly appreciated the level of skill gymnastics take. The near perfect control over the body and momentum, the precise and timed movements in the air, it’s breathtaking.
These are great details we don't normally see.
Come on Nothing in this video is misogynist It's just facts 😂😂😂
Is no one gonna talk about the DOUBLE BACK off of a highbar???
ah, the end was helpful. i was wondering why i had thought it was wood
Steel bars are used for training in women's gymnastics lmao. They would be incredibly unsafe for uneven bars because you'd fly too high and not be able to transition as safely between bars. It's so much easier to throw a skill on a steel bar because of the height it give you.
How come women change between two and men use the one? Both are scary as hell, don’t get me wrong, but changing between two sounds terrifying and hitting your legs on steel is just as spooky. Edit: I found this but I’m still confused, “Of course, women's uneven bars require a tremendous amount of upper body strength, but, as Dvora Meyers at Jezebel pointed out, having a lower bar gives women something to rest their legs on; women generally carry more of their weight in their lower bodies than men.”
@Phantom-bh5ru
Жыл бұрын
Basically men and women gymnastics are different to account for the different physical builds of men and women.
@conquistadorrocket
Жыл бұрын
Women's uneven bars evolved from men's parallel bars. The first bars women used were just a set of p bars with one being raised all the way up and one being pretty low. Since then, over the decades, the bars have become more sophisticated and set further apart for more/different skills. Meyers from Jezebel has no idea what she's talking about. There is no resting on the bars at all.
@wheezeardjack
Жыл бұрын
@@conquistadorrocket ahh okay. That’s interesting. Thank you!
If you have jet fuel on your hands and your performance is fire, will it melt?
@alh.21
Жыл бұрын
No, but it’ll critically deform under the weight of the balls needed
@xgods9192
Жыл бұрын
Are you high, Kayla?
"Steel is a strong material" not you once breaking the bar 😂😂
I think his best event is definitely the bars! I wish I could do that 😭
Flexibility has nothing to do with it though. It'd be more accurate to say it's because of the toughness and hardness. It could also be accurate to say elastic deformation too. And why oh why that material? Well, 'cause if it's made of aluminium or copper, you'll soon figure out that guy Newtown was right...
Actully womans bar are wooden bc, that they stand on it and spring over and if you stand on the metal bar and spring you go to high and if you spring over and its to bandy they may fall
@wintermelon3818
Жыл бұрын
Why are you lying? Men stand on it too...
@boekenlover
Жыл бұрын
@@wintermelon3818 but do they spring to a other bar and bc woman have smaller body's but that is'nt sed like a thousend times
Steel doesn't fatigue, either, as long as you don't go past a certain stress point. And it's cheap.
Women's bars developed from men's Pbars. They initially just offset them, then used spreaders to get a tilt that eventually turned into a new apparatus. It's about an evolution in design, not so much about the power of the skills. It could be argued that the difference in the power of the skills was shaped by the evolution in equipment design.
both kinds of gymnastics are incredible also: oh you were talking about the bar bending, not your back😅