O Allah allow us to be among those who will NOT be among those who will be thrown into the HELLFIRE and Grant us JANNAH by YOUR Mercy according to our Good Deeds and Actions! Ameen 🤍💜

@paappy

2 жыл бұрын

Allahumma Aameen ❤️

@jadsalhani

Жыл бұрын

Ameen

@mrmusi4512

Жыл бұрын

Not "according to out good deeds" sister. We can never do 3nuogh to earn jannah. It is only by Allah's sheer mercy we are to get jannah or else we are doomed 🙁

The argument is not that the supposed crimes were for a limited time. The argument is that eternal torture and a most merciful being are incompatible.

4:27 our worldly concepts and opinions don’t matter. This is the word of your lord..

The one who disobeys Allah and His Messenger, for him there is the fire of Hell, wherein such people will live forever. (Surah al-Jschinn)

@gulizarali2176

2 ай бұрын

Forever as he states is a terminology that differs to than the literal meaning.. like this is taking forever… for an example a day in hell is like a 1000 days in hellfire.. allah doesn’t need us but our purpose was to worship him so if our purpose is failed what is the point of hell in the end if it does not purify us back to him.. as he said his punishment is less than his mercy.. so will the oft-forgiving and most merciful relinquish the punishment eventually bc our purpose was obtained in hells purification?

@gulizarali2176

2 ай бұрын

Also what’s the purpose of this test on earth? It’s limited.. where as the heaven that was promised uses different terminology that means never end.. so why wud it be diff terms for hell and heaven?

Wait 😎

So what’s the 3rd reason

❤️

is this Sheikh saying that After they've been punishment in hellfire Allah SWT will wipe them out like they never existed?? is this what the sheikh is saying ??

What time is the start

@AlMaghribInstituteTV

2 жыл бұрын

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@1:54 How is it not a rational struggle to ponder upon whether hell is an eternal punishment for a non-eternal sin? It seems like a pretty logical argument. Not an emotional one

@mrmusi4512

Жыл бұрын

It's not a "rational struggle" becasue Allah has said hellfire is eternal for the kuffar. So since Allah has said, we must just believe and never try to entertain thoughts that Allah's punishment could be unjust.

@kaluludhianvi

7 ай бұрын

@@mrmusi4512 I'm a non-muslim, you may call me a kafir. But you haven't got a clue what a kafir is or 'sin' is, hell is nor what keeps one in 'hell' Go and study your quran C17V85. learn something. You are expected to pass tests for paradise but you haven't yet opened the book. When you find out what 'kafir' should mean - all will become clear.

@JawadKhan-dn8ip

Ай бұрын

​@@mrmusi4512 blind faith just belive whatever u hear and dont ask question 😂

@mrmusi4512

Ай бұрын

@@JawadKhan-dn8ip to doubt what Allah has said makes one a kafir.

@mrmusi4512

Ай бұрын

@@JawadKhan-dn8ip you are kafir? Only kaffir doubts Allah's words.

Hellfire is not eternal, the word "khalidina" and "abad" it also means for a long time. read also V.128 An-naam in arabic: ila macha allahu which means "except what God wants" (speaking of the length of stay in hell) also in v.107 and 108 (Hud) he says the same thing v23 (an-naba) the prophet mohamed talked about the last men in the hellfire who after he go in paradise. there is other evidence too

@SuperSonic-9999

6 ай бұрын

no "abadan" means "never" "abada" means "forever", also prophet mohamed was talking about that muslim guy who will be the LAST person to enter heaven, the disbelievers will never enter heaven and also let's not forget that allah claimed he doesn't forgive shirk, they r burning in hell but he said he doesn't forgive shirk so it wouldnt make sense for the punishment to suddenly stop and suddenly the disbleivers cease to exist Quran 6:27-28 is the biggest evidence of hell being eternal

@benijen

5 ай бұрын

He'll fire might exist forever but the punishment of God is not.

@iiddrrii6051

2 ай бұрын

@@SuperSonic-9999it’s incompatible with a merciful deity.

@gulizarali2176

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@SuperSonic-9999but the story goes on to state that if you ask for mercy, ask of him, allah will give so if the person of hellfire asks to get closer to heaven allahs mercy since he called on him was to give it, in human nature if one is tortured by hellfire will obviously end up asking of forgiveness , Allah being oft forgiving and all knowing will make the judgment to those that are burning to relinquish them eventually since his wrath is less than his mercy, i mean wats the purpose of having a hell if it does not purify or a man whose purpose was made to worship.. does Allah need us to burn forever? Does Allah need us to worship forever? But since we are made to worship and a test was failed, what next? Punishment is less than his mercy.. and our goal was to follow him.. so when that is reached in hell or in earth, what next? The 7 heavens that does not hold a reward as equally? What abt the bigger objective? Why not just erase ppl entirely?

@SuperSonic-9999

2 ай бұрын

@@gulizarali2176 yeah no that will never apply for a disbeliever. And that story is about the final human being to enter heaven (obviously this guy is a Muslim) and btw this is AFTER he already left hell. The disbeliever will literally suffer forever. Hell will exist forever. I mean just look at surat Qaf when Allah says that hell is asked wether or not it's full, and it literally says "are there more I can burn?" Also these abodes r meant to be eternal. It makes no sense for heaven to be eternal but hell just suddenly ceases to exist. Also Quran 6:27-28 Allah already told us y hell is eternal. He says that EVEN IF he literally gives them a 2nd chance (this is better than ceasing to exist), they still ultimately go RIGHT BACK to their shirk, I mean HOW STUPID IS THAT??? Just a few seconds ago u were in the worst place that has ever existed, and u were saved from it, and yet STILL RETURNED TO SHIRK?? It's crazy. Also people generally have a problem with hell in general because fire sounds harsh to them. Humans r more than just evil, Quran 6:27-28 proves to us that humans might actually be retarded and we're not as smart as we think we r.

So allah knows ppls nature, so would it be safe to say hence why there are 7 heavens , the reward isn’t equal but the purpose to worship him even in hellfire will eventually lead to paradise bc this worlds test was failed but the purification will do its purpose in the end since the ignorance of this world did not or would not bc as it states man can be as low as a pig or higher than angels bc of the free will that it’s given to us so even tho allah knows, allahs mercy is far greater than the wrath

(1) the concept of time is only applicable to the universe with time being present. Anything that takes place outside time can be considered eternal as time is not present. (2) Believe in Allah and do good - there are those who believe and commit genocide. I dont think they will be in Paradise after their punishment in hell. I think they will cease to exist. The same with those who associate partners or atheists. (3) Those brought back to life will have their memory of judgment erased. Then they will still reject God once brought back. Over and over again.

@user-cb1lj2wo3c

14 күн бұрын

Do you think it is Just though?

@asrulismail1513

14 күн бұрын

@@user-cb1lj2wo3c what is?

What happens to good kuffars like Einstein, gandhi, nelson Mandela and many others who have served humanity... do they also get eternal hellfire

@iiddrrii6051

7 ай бұрын

Muslims would say their culpability for belief is based on a few things. They believe that polytheism is the one unforgivable sin which is worse than murder, grape, etc. Muslims are also told that all humans made a divine contract with God, "Am I not your Lord". This also seems to imply some sort of innate culpability on belief. Of course, this is quite an absurd claim which does not comport with current evidence or rationality. There are some ideas in Islamic tradition that claims that people, to whom came no true guidance, will have some sort of special test in the afterlife. Many Muslims also have this idea that good deeds of non-muslims are rewarded in this life, in order to for God to remain fair and just. Apparently it's followed by appropriate torture in the after life for their non-belief.

@SuperSonic-9999

7 ай бұрын

Anyone who hit puberty, who is also a SANE person, who HEARS the message of Islam and REJECTS it, and DIES while rejecting it, will be in HELL for ETERNITY.

@iiddrrii6051

7 ай бұрын

@@SuperSonic-9999 yes , that’s a common viewpoint as well. Interesting that both puberty an sanity are in gradients rather than binary.

@radiomed1097

7 ай бұрын

@@SuperSonic-9999 wish I were insane.... I could have escaped hell

@SuperSonic-9999

7 ай бұрын

@@iiddrrii6051 yeah because u need to have both, and btw it's not just about hell these conditions r also required for sins, so if a child lies or steals, since he didn't hit puberty yet he's not to be held accountable, and insane people should obviously not go to jail cuz they're basically unconscious in a sense, and before u misunderstand me I'm not saying children shouldn't be disciplined or punished, I'm just saying they can't really "committ a sin"

It's not a legitimate opinion. Ibn Qayyim made a serious mistake here

@mrmusi4512

Жыл бұрын

in ahlus sunnah (mainstream Sunni Islam) it is considered kufr to believe hellfire is not eternal. but people like ibn al Qayum could be exempt from takfir due to taweel mistake...

@tanveersheikh9860

Жыл бұрын

​@@mrmusi4512 ibn qayyum was inclined towards the view but he too later recanted and refuted this

@H7asan1

Жыл бұрын

@@tanveersheikh9860 daleel?

@H7asan1

Жыл бұрын

@@tanveersheikh9860 read his ketab hadi al arwah, where he brings the statements of olema who held this belief too, saying that he was wrong when quite a few scholars held this opinion is strange.

@JawadKhan-dn8ip

11 ай бұрын

It is as it based from verses from quran and hadith