Why is Gundam SEED Still Popular?

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  • @orangeyellow9695
    @orangeyellow96952 жыл бұрын

    Seed is good. Frankly, I loved how the cast are basically representations of the entire war. Sai=natural's jealousy of coordinators. Flay=hatred borne out of prejudice. Miriallia=hatred born out of loss of loved one to an opposition. Kira = how war corrupts the innocent. His experience is very visceral from the way he cried after realising he aimed for the kill on the Ginn to finishing off a bucue without remorse later, and his burning hatred against athrun because of tolle'sand nicol's death blinding them to the fact that they were once best friends. Athrun and patrick=zaft's original hatred against the natural (his mom died to natural's atrocities) and how they are resolved. Dearka and yzak= perceived supremacy of their own faction. Nicol='he was 15, and he loved the piano' The entire cast is aimed at allowing teenagers to relate their personal struggles with the struggles of the cosmic era war--hatred, and we see how both crazed factions becoming more and more radical. Rau is the embodiment of the hate. The story falls flat after Kira got the freedom, because the message becomes more 'told' than 'shown'. Lacus' repeated preaching makes sense, but beyond that, beyond the war, no attempt at reconciliation was seen by either party. The Junius treaty is just a compromise. So all lacus and Kira did only amounted to might is right. Granted, no amount of lacus preaching could stop the violence at that time, but this approach will have its consequences in seed destiny, but sadly, it is never explored. Seed has one of the better gundam designs of the franchise. And the naming of these suits are superb. You know instantly what the suit does or what the characters piloting them represents. Kira in strike Vs Kira in freedom makes the contrast even more palpable--kira who was once manipulated onto striking down opponents and experiencing that hatred is finally liberated from it. Athrun who pilots the aegis to protect his people and Kira on the battlefield (which he did at first) became vindictive. His next suit is the justice, athrun realises the extremism of his father and decided to do what is right, betraying his faction for the good of mankind. Rau's providence is coloured black-- it is the dark god. The embodiment of hatred that plagues the entirety of cosmic era. Earth alliance's suits became more violent. Instead of suits with names alluding to their combat roles, they got this: calamity, forbidden, and raider, as if to symbolise their increasing hatred. The pilots of these new suits are the tragic biological CPUs. Showing that the ea will stop at nothing to destroy their opposition. Destiny has everything going for it. But the writers decided to give shin the boot instead. We could have gotten a compelling character arc. The might is right theme is explored in shinn with his impulse as he battled Kira and almost killed athrun and meyrin when he has the power to do it. Remember, shinn wanted power to protect, but he used it to kill people who have no intention to kill him (athrun, Kira(before he realised he had to get the core splendour to stand a chance) and meyrin) Durandal wanted to use his power to kill what makes humans human because he fears that hatred in humanity will continue to cause war. If shinn's character arc were to be explored in full, he serves as the perfect foil against durandal. And this might is right thing can be resolved. At one point durandal basically had the support of the entire earth and space colonies except orb after he exposed blue cosmos. He could have ended the war there and that and proceed to usher peace. He knows that orb doesn't want war, especially with cagali being restored to power, but no, he wanted war because he feared the cycle of hatred, therefore he wanted the universal implementation of the destiny plan. Shinn would be the one choosing whether or not to go against this. Not Kira. Kira, as a character has been explored he should've died along with the entire archangel crew, athrun, and meyrin. Destiny has always been about shinn. It should have been, to the end, about shinn. How shinn understood that he abused his power because of hatred, and how he repented for being no different from the forces that took Stella and his family. Then, how he overcame it and realise that there is still goodness in humanity. Why I criticise Kira's might is right approach as wrong: choosing to kidnap cagali and making it difficult for talks to start. He could have intervened and gathered the moderate factions with cagali. Killing Stella (this is more symbolic) when shinn had the chance to talk her out of it. Ripping off athrun instead of properly listening to him because he believes outright that athrun is wrong. Heh, clyne faction's obvious breach of the Junius treaty with nuclear gundams and mirage colloid doms are hypocritical when cagali criticised zaft of making more gundam suits. Kira needs to know that after stopping the war, he, lacus, and cagali must be the arbiter of peace, and that should be done through 'mutual understanding' not might. Yes, Kira did not want to kill anyone, but his actions only solidified the 'might is right' theme.

  • @ishneak

    @ishneak

    2 жыл бұрын

    you should post this on Reddit's Gundam sub

  • @alvinalfianto2806

    @alvinalfianto2806

    7 ай бұрын

    Ah yes... In every war there will always be that one soldier that is 15 year old and loved playing the piano.

  • @friliandoedo3676
    @friliandoedo36766 жыл бұрын

    good things about this series: 1. soundtrack 2. the design of the ms

  • @linuxblacksarena

    @linuxblacksarena

    6 жыл бұрын

    3. the sameface character designs that make drawing doujinshi of their characters really really easy

  • @theomnibusprime4046

    @theomnibusprime4046

    5 жыл бұрын

    Amen on number 2.

  • @theunknown2778

    @theunknown2778

    4 жыл бұрын

    actually, this is what I always say when ppl ask y I like seed only for these reasons

  • @none-q4o

    @none-q4o

    3 жыл бұрын

    And also quite a lot of badass moments

  • @gundamnmechas8518

    @gundamnmechas8518

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dub ain't bad either tbh.

  • @curiousgeorge2356
    @curiousgeorge23566 жыл бұрын

    the soundtrack tho👌

  • @MuhammadKharismawan

    @MuhammadKharismawan

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's golden Indeed, SEED's soundtrack is my no 1 spot of anime OST, recently rewatchingit and I find some music that I used to love as a kid was made by Yuki Kajiura (FictionJunction), whose creations today I also love to bits... I guess taste can't really change much even with tens of years apart haha

  • @yevonsama

    @yevonsama

    6 жыл бұрын

    you right.

  • @catlavie5889

    @catlavie5889

    6 жыл бұрын

    So trueeeee

  • @lawrencemichael5571

    @lawrencemichael5571

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah... The soundtrack is epic... Specially the one called freedom and justice.

  • @curiousgeorge2356

    @curiousgeorge2356

    6 жыл бұрын

    thx for all the attention, kimi wa boku neiteiru is my fav🙌

  • @Calvin_Coolage
    @Calvin_Coolage6 жыл бұрын

    Kira's crying really is the reason I watched SEED and Destiny dubbed.

  • @JeanLucCaptain

    @JeanLucCaptain

    3 жыл бұрын

    Durandals sexy voice 😂

  • @s0meRand0m129

    @s0meRand0m129

    3 жыл бұрын

    @York Hunt i agree , i dare to say that the old dub in SEED is glorious and better than the sub

  • @LeoMidori

    @LeoMidori

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JeanLucCaptain Dude, and Rau La Creuset. Guy had a voice like melted butter when he wasn't screaming like a madman.

  • @JeanLucCaptain

    @JeanLucCaptain

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LeoMidori 🤣🤣

  • @tofugakiraidesu

    @tofugakiraidesu

    3 жыл бұрын

    The dub is really good tho, not gonna lie... it's one of the few animes that I don't mind watching with dub

  • @lsrrr3857
    @lsrrr38576 жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one that actually liked the story telling of SEED, rather than just think the only positive things about SEED are cool models and successful in making money and keep GUNDAM series alive?

  • @GenJuhru

    @GenJuhru

    6 жыл бұрын

    and the best soundtracks

  • @KamenSentaiMetalHero

    @KamenSentaiMetalHero

    6 жыл бұрын

    Your not alone. The Cosmic Era is one of my favorite Gundam timelines. I think people are too hard on these two shows.

  • @Name.is2

    @Name.is2

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think so too, adding the human element is needed because war is a very human thing not just about the person and their weapon. Any1 that’s ever been in the military can tell u this, which is why I think this is 1 of the best gundam series out there. And the twist of finding out that the earth alliance aren’t actually the good guys and it’s not simply black and white.

  • @ram89572

    @ram89572

    6 жыл бұрын

    No I enjoyed the story, characters, animation, and art from the show. Pretty much every aspect of it. And as a counter to the video, I'm not a girl or a child. I was probably 15 when I saw SEED for the first time. And I still enjoy it too this day and I'm almost 30 now. I don't understand all the hate that some anime get.

  • @Jim-Tuner

    @Jim-Tuner

    6 жыл бұрын

    No. The characters and storytelling in SEED were great. Having a war where both sides are in the wrong and everything is in shades of grey was a great idea. It was very politically complicated as well. I liked it in the same way I liked Zeta, but SEED managed to be far less totally dark than Zeta was. Its one of the more mature treatments of war and politics I've seen. There were also some really great moments. Like with Badgiruel where she started out as an obey no matter what officer and gradually & finally getting pushed to her moral breaking point where she did a mutiny. There was Cagalli who kept making bad decisions when she was finally in charge. There was the coup in space against the father of Lacus. And there was Rau Le Creuset who was working on the inside of the military to make everything worse. The only I think I regret is that they didn't do one more series to show Lacus making mistakes and how every leader (including Lacus) has strengths and weaknesses when running things.

  • @artfire28
    @artfire286 жыл бұрын

    I only remember Seed as warning messages against racism, ignorance, broken friendships, grief, unending wars, and assholes running their small worlds whatever fits to their ideal images of their utopia. "All you need is love" I guess is the universal message we should be reminded every time.

  • @Nyghtz

    @Nyghtz

    6 жыл бұрын

    I feel like one of the most important thing is about the anime's stand against nuclear weapons... Kinda feel like the nuclear bombs dropped in Japan are symbolized by the nuclear missiles that destroyed PLANT colonies.

  • @badfoody

    @badfoody

    6 жыл бұрын

    artfire28 or punching your best friend after stealing his girl

  • @Warsie

    @Warsie

    6 жыл бұрын

    badfoody full on CUCKING lel

  • @someguywithabirdface2583

    @someguywithabirdface2583

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Weston Meyer Gundam seed taught me don't play God and drug addict pilot a robot are worst than emo kid pilot a robot.

  • @zeehero7280

    @zeehero7280

    10 ай бұрын

    What is Love? Baby dont explode me with a gundam no more!

  • @vanderg
    @vanderg6 жыл бұрын

    If it wasn't for Gundam SEED, I would have never gotten into Gundam. After watching Seed and Seed Destiny, I got into other Gundam shows. I've seen all of: the original Gundam series via the compilation movies, Zeta Gundam, 0080, G Gundam, 08th MS Team, Build Fighters, and Build Fighters Try. I've seen parts of other series and there is still a lot I have yet to see at all. I still like SEED (not SEED Destiny much) but it has been a long time since I've seen it. I was buying the DVDs as they were released at Suncoast. I guess that shows my age!

  • @FrMZTsarmiral
    @FrMZTsarmiral6 жыл бұрын

    Did you do any research regarding early Gundam's demographic for this video? Even since the first MSG aired a huge part of the fanbase was female and they noticed this early on which is one of the reasons why Kamille is a bit girly for example. Hell, characters like Garma and Char had a lot of female fans and from what I've gathered there was a lot of doujin material made by females even on the days of the original run of MSG. It was probably going to be mostly aimed at male kids to sell them toys during it's first days but if that was the case then that changed pretty quickly. What Seed did was not being the first one in having a big focus on elements that female audiences enjoy, but having a more melodramatic approach to it's relationships and story telling. I don't wanna sound elitist but it pretty much used the lowest common denominator tropes that attract young female audience which I think it's what separates how it attracted them compared to the previous series.

  • @jebe4563

    @jebe4563

    3 жыл бұрын

    If anything SEED is the only Gundam TV series to not be largely reliant upon heavy handed tropes, and a combination of short attention spans or audiences not thinking things through up to when it came out. It actually took the proper time to develop things, handled issues at a rather sophisticated level, and made characters people. Since then IBO is the only other TV series to raise to the level of being well written. Large portions of UC fall apart the second you realize Amuro was born in Canada, Lalah in India, and Quess on Earth thus debunking the entire NewType hypothesis. While you can have a false prophet in a series when the false prophet is that blatant and literally no one goes "wait a minute..." when you have things like Char proposing mass bombardment of Earth following said delusion, you have a problem. The series in UC usually considered the best is Zeta, and if you've watched it all I should need to say is "Reccoa." Along those lines do I need to remind you the Titans pilot Zeon suits because Tomino was afraid the audience might get mixed up on who the "bad guys" were, and beyond the series equivalent of Finn they were cartoon evil for the sake of being cartoon evil. Indeed Zeta is so deeply flawed 0083 exists specifically to make setting modifications just to fix serious setting related problems Zeta otherwise has. Wing's characterization is such an utter joke they had to literally invoke "the little girl and her dog" in EW to try to pretend Heero wasn't a one note sheet of paper pretending to be a person, and its Absolute Pacifism thesis is so flawed and oversold it repeatedly debunks it in the process of trying to sell it. Plus has blatantly obvious narrative coherency problems like the Preventers just hiring the guy who wanted to literally make Earth uninhabitable "for peace" the last time anyone saw him and giving him the keys to one of the last high performance MS they knew existed, no questions asked... Friendly reminder if the Mariemaia group had waited an additional week they and Zechs would literally be the only one with MS, per the Narrator conceit at the end of EW.

  • @FrMZTsarmiral

    @FrMZTsarmiral

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jebe4563 kinda tl;dr but weren't new types people living in space that eventually develop their powers rather than just people born there? My Gundam knowledge is rusty but I'm pretty sure that's how it worked.

  • @orangeyellow9695

    @orangeyellow9695

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, teens in their adolescence binge on teen melodrama. Can't say it didn't work. Seed is an easy story to get into. That's it. It doesn't have the complexity and depth of UC series. War is just about hatred. But as far as getting the youngsters involved, it worked pretty darn well I guess.

  • @owensubali4932

    @owensubali4932

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@orangeyellow9695 i would like to point out a bit of a contridiction but i feel with the whole seed is contridicting it's self with war all i got from it was the famous words of sun downer "give war a chance" and the atrocity lacks impact like i do not care for shite

  • @underthemountain0

    @underthemountain0

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@jebe4563 LOL'ing at the fact that someone would actually try and say SEED is deep. It has about as much depth as a kiddie pool and the fact that you say it doesn't rely on heavy-handed tropes is even more laughable. Hilariously so. 😂😂😂

  • @lululov619
    @lululov619 Жыл бұрын

    I think it was popular because it actually was a more realistic view of war, you see both sides of a war and how it can tear friendships and families apart

  • @ChiefWombatCuddler

    @ChiefWombatCuddler

    9 күн бұрын

    Gundam 0080, 08th Ms team, Zeta, F91, Unicorn, Narrative all do a much better job at that.

  • @nozaku1191
    @nozaku11916 жыл бұрын

    My Favorite will always be Gundam : 08th ms team...Always lol.

  • @TerdSmasher303

    @TerdSmasher303

    6 жыл бұрын

    I really need to buy the movie that takes place after the series and re-watch it all (been on my to-do list for far too long) One of the few series I'm willing to buy

  • @dafaqu694

    @dafaqu694

    6 жыл бұрын

    UPVOTE BOY SO YOU'RE MAN OF CULTURE AS WELL

  • @noxiousnastycxciii6166

    @noxiousnastycxciii6166

    6 жыл бұрын

    AMEN ... ... ... But The Origin is pretty dope up til now too. Episode 6 better tease a 40th anniversary remake or I might just neck myself.

  • @andrewshearsby8125

    @andrewshearsby8125

    6 жыл бұрын

    CWFitness gundam wing was my first

  • @YukitoOnline

    @YukitoOnline

    6 жыл бұрын

    Man of culture

  • @unknown09111
    @unknown091116 жыл бұрын

    Gundam Seed was one of my early Gundam Series that I watched, it gave me curiosity to the other series. Sure Seed doesn't hold up against its Universal Century counter parts but it was my gateway to Gundam. Also Seed was my first Exposure to Yuki Kajiuras songs.

  • @weirdy8

    @weirdy8

    6 жыл бұрын

    John Smith Me as well. The top 3 in my book are Unicorn, 0080, and Turn A. Still started off loving SEED as a kid.

  • @mackyrel

    @mackyrel

    6 жыл бұрын

    saaaaame!

  • @lucasbrockini7204

    @lucasbrockini7204

    6 жыл бұрын

    My first Gundam show was Wing, then i saw Seed/Seed Destiny. After that i search hte other series, most of them were cool, but none of them was as cool as Seed. At least until 00 appearance.

  • @foxley95

    @foxley95

    6 жыл бұрын

    yeah, seed is not my best gundam series but it is what attract me into gundam franchise as a kid so its not horrible like what people said, then 00 came, that made me a gundam fan permanently

  • @TheYoungMindz

    @TheYoungMindz

    6 жыл бұрын

    John Smith yup, likewise here mate. SEED my first exposure to Gundam series.. Not a great show but still love it. I'm more into 00 Series.

  • @NeonZaku
    @NeonZaku6 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I really enjoyed Gundam Seed and Seed Destiny. They were the first ones I watched and they got me into Gundam, some of the characters like Mu La and Rau are really memorable, not to mention the Providence is one of my favourite Gundam. But I just like all the characters and the story isn't as bad as everyone says it is...

  • @KamenSentaiMetalHero

    @KamenSentaiMetalHero

    6 жыл бұрын

    iBra1n Media yeah, I definitely agree.

  • @spicykaraage641

    @spicykaraage641

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nahhh its basically beam spam galore and a mary sue protagonist

  • @orangeyellow9695

    @orangeyellow9695

    5 жыл бұрын

    Seed was good, but destiny...

  • @AeriaOris

    @AeriaOris

    3 жыл бұрын

    Providence has been my favourite gundam since I saw it at 3 yrs old Rau is my favourite gundam character ever he's so cool

  • @arcstar8337

    @arcstar8337

    3 жыл бұрын

    same destiny was my first ever anime and its what got me into both gundam and anime

  • @nu_keys
    @nu_keys6 жыл бұрын

    SEED is kinda okay, but Destiny butchered anything good it had. Aside from the mecha designs, SEED mecha designs are top notch. Mu is still one of my favorite Gundam characters ever though. I always wondered how, at least in Japan, Destiny was the most popular Gundam, beating out the original Gundam, the milked-to-hell Unicorn, and the forever-praised Zeta, this is some really good insight on the question.

  • @davidlaush180

    @davidlaush180

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mico Nuq “aside from the mecha designs, SEED mecha designs are top notch”. I’m having trouble understanding this sentence. I apologize but can you elaborate?

  • @thelinedrive

    @thelinedrive

    3 жыл бұрын

    I can never look beyond the toxic relationship Kira has with that girl who hates coordinators. Like I’ve seen healthier better written relationships in hentai

  • @marple4830

    @marple4830

    2 жыл бұрын

    Japan isn't as critical as the rest, they like Lacus, Kira and love it for what it is. In 2000's is was massively popular even here.

  • @orangeyellow9695

    @orangeyellow9695

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thelinedrive that girl is flay. That toxic relationship drives the story forward. Flay has always been an interesting character to me. Don't get Me wrong though, I don't like flay as a person, but as a tool for storytelling she pretty darn well does her job better than almost every other supporting cast. Flay has a character arc and is always destabilising the archangel crew's equilibrium. But sadly, she is doomed, perhaps as a form poetic justice. She is also the lens for us to understand the deep-seated hatred for the coordinators borne by the naturals. And her hatred stem from prejudice, rather than vendetta (mirriallia haw exaemplifies this) or jealousy (sai argyle). Seed is gundam remade into an entry level show, and it uses its characters as a means for us to connect with the overarching war narrative on a visceral level. Unicorn, turn a, zeta, and the many UC OVAs deals with far more abstract concepts of war, and this loss of depth and the clear, black-white characterisations make the story too simple for any UC fan. But it gets the job done--its entry level, after all. It was the first gundam I watch. Similarly, Your name is more popular than shinkai's earlier works because it is much simpler to understand--lol, some of the symbolisms are mentioned outright, that's a no-no for me (the scarlet thread, for example). But don't get me wrong, seed is not comparable to your name in terms of writing, it's still inadequate.

  • @govind.m86

    @govind.m86

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thelinedrive Kira and Flay's relationship is easily one of the best parts of the show wym

  • @Yama_1291
    @Yama_12916 жыл бұрын

    Gunpla, gunpla.. gunpla! Suddenly a wild Alain appears! Glad to see you uploading Soobot!

  • @thelicensednerd1626
    @thelicensednerd1626 Жыл бұрын

    "This video is not made to critique" Then proceeds to shit on every aspect of the show

  • @Farons8
    @Farons86 жыл бұрын

    Welcome back, friend. Can’t believe you came through with a SEED video. I remember you said you were gonna make one like 2 years ago. Ironically enough, that’s what spurred me to go and watch SEED and Destiny. So uhh thanks for that? I got a lot of good laughs out of it for sure.

  • @SunnyDLux
    @SunnyDLux4 жыл бұрын

    It was difficult finding this video again

  • @kotetsujeeg7999
    @kotetsujeeg79996 жыл бұрын

    >old robot shows were about the robots, that’s why they suck I feel like anybody who says this haven’t actually watched older shows. After the 70s toei era it’s generally been characters first, robots second. Look at any Gundam series made before Wing and you will find this to be true

  • @redphoenixmk3388

    @redphoenixmk3388

    4 жыл бұрын

    I completely agree. Especially for Wing. If you ever check out Gundam Wing Abridged by Operation Meatier there's a line that Zechs says that's fairly accurate. "I came here for the fights but all I ever get are people talking". The characters are pretty important and the robots are the icing on the cake.

  • @samaguirre3283

    @samaguirre3283

    4 жыл бұрын

    No the story is the lead the characters are second and the mechs/ships/ vehicles come lastly. In Wing it’s about those who do before thinking vs those with power who don’t wanna lose it aka; Control. Seed is about Hatred. Mobile Suit Gandam is about the Horrors of War so are most of the Gundam series about War. G-fighter is about ecological pollution and corruption. Every Gundam series has a different premise but most are about war and it’s horrors. Although most super robot anime show in the early 70 did have a lot of over the top scenes but most are about friendships and most are character driven if not story drive none are about the robot solely, if you think I’m lying see how many wins by the power of friendship outcomes there are in a old super robot franchise?

  • @redphoenixmk3388

    @redphoenixmk3388

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@samaguirre3283 I see where you're coming from. Every time I see Wing I notice something different about the plot or the characters that I hadn't prior. Not entirely sure why lol but I can definitely see the whole power of friendship routine playing out several times in the first Seed no doubt. Kira gets his second gundam because of the power of friendship 🤣 maybe that's what kept him surviving impossible situations 🤔 or maybe was plot armor

  • @samaguirre3283

    @samaguirre3283

    4 жыл бұрын

    Red PHOENIX Mk3 both I’m sure

  • @thesecondkat
    @thesecondkat6 жыл бұрын

    "I thought I was out, but they keep getting me back in" -Sooin, most likely.

  • @BaileyZKerr

    @BaileyZKerr

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey, this video is unlisted now and I'm trying to find a video they did on Turn A that I watched a long time ago that's likely also unlisted. I don't suppose you have a link to it at all? :/ Like from your liked videos (how I re-found this) or something

  • @Hellfiredeity
    @Hellfiredeity6 жыл бұрын

    Great editing and an interesting analysis of this subject. I will stay tuned for more vids.

  • @JohnSmith-ck5qk
    @JohnSmith-ck5qk6 жыл бұрын

    Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Seed and Seed destiny had the most "gundam style" mobile suit designs (two eyes and v fin). There was a alot of variety in design in color scheme, which you don't see in other gundam series. For me, I find the seed gundam designs to be some of the best in gundam

  • @orangeyellow9695

    @orangeyellow9695

    2 жыл бұрын

    We all know turn a has the best gundam design, because I can never look at Edward Newgate the same way again after seeing turn a gundam. For real though, strike has always been my favourite.

  • @Xenibalt

    @Xenibalt

    2 жыл бұрын

    truth

  • @maimaibiri9045

    @maimaibiri9045

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@orangeyellow9695 Lmao I never really thought of that

  • @TriToneTiefling

    @TriToneTiefling

    Жыл бұрын

    I disagree, I find the Suits from Seed to be incredibly samey, basically all using the same base and just adding different fins, spikes, and bulk on to them. The suits in Wing were incredibly distinct from each other, and the same could be said for many gundams before and after Seed. A lot of the visual art direction for seed feels way way too safe, and it really hurts it.

  • @eight-cloudspurple5871

    @eight-cloudspurple5871

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes. There is an entire country United Emirate of Orb that uses the v-fin-and-2-eye design for all their mainline units. Since technically it is their own design initially.

  • @Farons8
    @Farons86 жыл бұрын

    Also, your editing is soooo crisp. You’ve clearly gotten a lot of practice in since the last time we heard from you. Not to mention those to die for minimalist Gundam head designs. Remind me to twist your arm into making those into posters so I can line my walls use with them.

  • @tunge881
    @tunge8812 жыл бұрын

    This is only gundam I've ever watched, I've never watched the ones that were made after. The level of impact this set had on me whoo 🤧🤧🤧🤧

  • @fujinofshadow
    @fujinofshadow6 жыл бұрын

    I still love Gundam Seed

  • @Clee-os6pv

    @Clee-os6pv

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Adan Dangli: I am glad Kira became the main character again! I just hated that Shin guy!

  • @MobiusCoin

    @MobiusCoin

    6 жыл бұрын

    Seed is fine. It's a perfectly serviceable introduction to the franchise. It's not without its flaws but what's really weighing it down is Destiny.

  • @MuhammadKharismawan

    @MuhammadKharismawan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Adan Dangli I used to think the same, but after a rewatch, I no longer thinks that way, the two are interlocked with each other, and each has their shining moments, I love both series now.

  • @557deadpool

    @557deadpool

    6 жыл бұрын

    you're a fucking idiot

  • @matthewbatts3209
    @matthewbatts32096 жыл бұрын

    Regardless of SEED's merits or lack thereof, SEED Destiny had the potential to be a worthy sequel. Then they ditched the new cast in favor of the older characters, copied the last half of SEED practically word for word, and hoped that the audience wasn't smart enough to realize it. Sadly, they were right.

  • @samaguirre3283

    @samaguirre3283

    4 жыл бұрын

    Matthew Batts they didn’t copy the end of the first season but they did copy the original Gundam and Gundam Zeta/Double Zeta series mostly, as for your perception of a lack of story you have to dig deep into the story, here’s a clue it’s about hatred?! That might also explain why you feel that they just got lazy and copied the first season because in the first season it was about how these children adjusting to being adults in war about hatred, now Destiny takes it to whole new level and makes you see pure hatred and its outcome which isn’t that much different from the first season, but in season two the original cast have adjusted moving on with life and new cast are struggling and on the wrong side from the beginning to the end. Now the original Mobile Suit Gundam and Gundam Zeta/Double Zeta was about the horrors of WAR on Children, I think most of them are about the horrors of war, but Seed/ Seed Destiny series is about hatred a subject sadly we human don’t wanna talk about?

  • @JeanLucCaptain

    @JeanLucCaptain

    3 жыл бұрын

    I liked the first season. But ya they Fucked up the second half. For real emotional impact Kira should have died and we should have seen the fallout.

  • @albundy1485

    @albundy1485

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@samaguirre3283 Stop saying intelligent things. We are here to blindly hate on SEED (a.k.a. the best Gundam series along with Zeta) .

  • @orangeyellow9695

    @orangeyellow9695

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@samaguirre3283 seed is about hatred. Seed destiny is about Hatred and the use of power. Durandal feared humanity's hatred, therefore, he wanted to implement the destiny plan. In his naive thinking, if everyone is set on his destiny, there is no point in breaking out of it. It is similar to the caste system, just with genetics, not birthright. Durandal, at one point, had the power to usher in peace after he exposed blue cosmos and has almost everybody Except orb on his side. But orb doesn't want war, durandal knows that given cagali is now in power. He decided on going through with war because of his fear of hatred. He intends to use his power to rob away freedom. It is unjust. Shinn should be his foil just as how Kira was rau's foil. This is because, despite how Kira talks about peace and mutual understanding he used his power in ways that prolonged conflict. And he thinks he is always in the right. Kidnapping cagali instead of intervening and getting cagali to stand up against seiran to initiate a negotiation means he did not trust that they can reach a mutual understanding. Him killing Stella when shinn could have talked her out of shows that he did not believe that a mutual understanding can be reached. Imagine if at that point, Kira also shouted at Stella while sheathing his sabers and observe the scene because Stella literally stopped what she was doing. I am not discounting that Kira should kill Stella to prevent the devastation at the soonest possible time, but from a narrative standpoint it shows his willingness to use force when mutual understanding could have been reached. Clyne faction's use of mirage colloid and n-jammer canceller shows that they are all on board on this might is right thing, and yes, they just violated the Junius treaty after forced zaft and EA to sign post seed. Kira could have met with durandal and try to talk things out with cagali in hand. This could be accompanied by athrun. Whether or not the talk succeeds is not the point, but it shows his unwillingness to understand his enemy (durandal have issued orders to kill lacus). If the talk ends in failure then all the better: what happens when both sides disagree? Is there room for peace? This can be explored further throughout the series. Kira confronting shinn would also make a good drama, shinn reminding Kira of his dead family, showing that despite his efforts, he still couldn't prevent collateral damage, questioning his use of force. And shinn being reminded of the inevitability of deaths in war, even of the one killing his family is on the right side. This humanises both characters and it is something Kira must contend with in destiny. (My beam spam hurts people too) Shinn pilots the impulse when he was an impulsive brat. That's why, despite his conviction to use his power to protect others, he succumbed to hatred and used it to destroy people who never intended to kill him i.e. not his enemies. Exemplified by shinn repeatedly exploiting Kira's unwillingness to land killing blows until later on, and him taking down athrun and meyrin. Frankly all three should've died. And that segues into shinn's character growth. His next suit is destiny, because his choice later on determines whether humanity is destined for durandal's plan or freedom and justice, two beliefs destroyed by shinn (Kira and athrun) Essentially seed destiny could have explored in deeper themes whether peace in eternal tyranny is better than freedom with the risk of war. Team kira uses direct force to enforce peace, while durandal stands by the destiny plan: enforcing peace through social segregation and genetics. Remember the lesson in seed: regardless of who you are, we are all humans. So durandal's values are contradictory to seed's themes. It's the same for Kira because he contradicted the ideal that mutual understanding is the road to peace. Shinn should represent the belief that humanity can reconcile and transcend hatred without the use of force and tyranny. Another very idealistic thing, but it's something that resonates well with us.

  • @TheGreatPinkPillow27
    @TheGreatPinkPillow276 жыл бұрын

    As a male, I loved the Seed saga. I've seen UC, 00 and iron blooded orphans. Non have impacted me as much seed/Destiny did and still do to this day. CEforever.🤟😁

  • @leo11lim
    @leo11lim4 ай бұрын

    Freedom is a box office success

  • @ecko_lmtd
    @ecko_lmtd6 жыл бұрын

    watch freedom and justice fight against 3 human computer with their freaking MS, ending with destroy of orb with akatsuki no kuruma OST... it's freaking awesome bro, and when kira down to earth with freedom protecting archangel... again with great OST, SEED is great gundam franchise not only because design of MS, story and OST is make it great.

  • @ezhumbug
    @ezhumbug3 жыл бұрын

    And thus Seed Eclipse is announced.

  • @kevindeluna2040
    @kevindeluna20406 жыл бұрын

    I wish that G Gundam could get love from bandai for model kits

  • @Calvin_Coolage

    @Calvin_Coolage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Kevin DeLuna I just want kits of the whole Shuffle Alliance. I need a good Gundam Maxter kit.

  • @kevindeluna2040

    @kevindeluna2040

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah and I want a god gundam mg 2.0 and a mg nobell gundam

  • @skylordianandy2644

    @skylordianandy2644

    6 жыл бұрын

    Same. Imagine a Nether Gundam getting a gunpla.

  • @Xesthan

    @Xesthan

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Weston Meyer Sounds cool. Maybe not as a full series, but a OVA that's a few episodes long sounds good.

  • @akou12

    @akou12

    5 жыл бұрын

    We NEED a sequel

  • @hellodanknessmyoldfriend6101
    @hellodanknessmyoldfriend61013 жыл бұрын

    And now SEED's 20th Anniversary will be celebrated by a new movie sequel.

  • @evan8683
    @evan86836 жыл бұрын

    If I want to fall into a coma from boredom is when I'll watch Turn A.

  • @eekaygames
    @eekaygames6 жыл бұрын

    SEED definitely has some of the most OP gundams. Strike Freedom was like unstoppable. Freedom had some weaknesses, but then they added on the dragoon system, took away the heavy shield and gave it beam shields instead. A chest cannon and also not one but two beam rifles that can be combined into a beam cannon. The only thing that would make it more OP is if it had cloaking teching too.

  • @thelinedrive
    @thelinedrive3 жыл бұрын

    This is literally the first time I’ve heard of Seed getting mentioned in 15 years

  • @coolguyj8858
    @coolguyj88582 жыл бұрын

    I love your editing style. Hope you keep making more videos like this and the Kikyo one.

  • @GrantLulu
    @GrantLulu6 жыл бұрын

    I'm interesting in seeing more videos from you and seeing more of your views/opinions. Keep up the good work ^^

  • @angelacarla7774
    @angelacarla77745 жыл бұрын

    2019 and still. Re-wathching it all over again 😍 my first anime my first love ❤️ the reason. Why im so inlove with anime is bec of this 😍❤️💕 its true that fist love never dies 💕❤️😍💖

  • @orangeyellow9695

    @orangeyellow9695

    2 жыл бұрын

    But flay died, and she's Kira's first love.

  • @gerrykomalaysia2
    @gerrykomalaysia26 жыл бұрын

    this is a good video, subbed

  • @DuhAznMata
    @DuhAznMata4 жыл бұрын

    Holy cow this is so well made. How do you not have more subs and views. This is top-notch video quality

  • @sheercold26
    @sheercold266 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely loved this video. Thank youuuu!!!

  • @badkarma2754
    @badkarma27546 жыл бұрын

    I have to admit I like Athrun Zala.

  • @Matanumi

    @Matanumi

    4 жыл бұрын

    Both actors do an excellent job...he's well written despite having his internal conflict for a long time

  • @RayOfTruth
    @RayOfTruth6 жыл бұрын

    It's kind of sad that After War Gundam X was so screwed over by constant time slot changes, because I feel that it could have done a lot of the same things SEED did, but while being one of the best entries in the franchise. Instead it got canceled, and a dozen episodes were cut. Many of which I imagine would help develop Garrod and Tiffa, who are already the best romantic Gundam couple.

  • @thomasffrench3639

    @thomasffrench3639

    Жыл бұрын

    After War Gundam X was not screwed over because of time slots, it was screwed over because of ratings

  • @RayOfTruth

    @RayOfTruth

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thomasffrench3639 low ratings that were in-part caused by several timeslot changes that confused fans on when the show would even be on. It's not the only reason, but one of several. Gundam fatigue immediately after G and Wing probably didn't help.

  • @thomasffrench3639

    @thomasffrench3639

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RayOfTruth changing time slots are due to low rating most of the time.

  • @ZarynScribbles
    @ZarynScribbles6 жыл бұрын

    The fact that you bring up Turn A so much makes me really happy.

  • @carlosaugustoayresdesouzam8739
    @carlosaugustoayresdesouzam8739 Жыл бұрын

    The video is so on point I can't find the words to add anything worth mentioning. Good job again, Sooin!

  • @kikaho_
    @kikaho_6 жыл бұрын

    I can't help but notice how great the graphics and editing are, especially those Gundam head portraits. 10/10

  • @OfficialRedTeamReview
    @OfficialRedTeamReview6 жыл бұрын

    Because it was the first all out war sub-genre from Gundam since the Universal Century days. With Gundam you either get two things: young kids piloting gundams fighting a large organization (Wing, Iron Blooded Orphans, 00) or young kids piloting gundams trying to stop? two large organizations who hate each other (Seed, AGE, Original Gundam)

  • @pikistikman

    @pikistikman

    6 жыл бұрын

    RedTeamReview What about adult characters like Domon, Bellri, and Char?

  • @BlueAmerican26

    @BlueAmerican26

    6 жыл бұрын

    Young kids? Setsuna was the only “young” pilot. 00 was also pretty much an all out war. They were a terrorist organization fighting against governmental corruption and tyranny.

  • @pikistikman

    @pikistikman

    6 жыл бұрын

    BlueFacondor Amuro was 15, Flint started at like 10, Garrod is also under 15

  • @Gundamguy-py3ir

    @Gundamguy-py3ir

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well for as much as this girls boasting. I think turn A was actually the first all out “war” outside the universal century. But really it’s not as good as she claims. It’s more on par with “V” and X” and I only got all the way through X because they really are just that bad, with X in my opinion being the best. Or at least the easiest to watch.

  • @gundamnduke0

    @gundamnduke0

    6 жыл бұрын

    lol, fighting a terrorist group is one thing, but two politically separated entities fighting is another. Just like how the war on terrorism is different from the likes of World War II.

  • @austinmitchell2652
    @austinmitchell26526 жыл бұрын

    This was awesome! I plan on watching SEED soon, I'll have to try not to let this color my opinion xP

  • @yyZiggurat
    @yyZiggurat6 жыл бұрын

    I subscribed to/discovered this channel today. This video is really well put together! I get the impression that this channel had more videos at some point? I really hope this isn't the last video uploaded to this channel.

  • @BatemanGosling
    @BatemanGosling5 ай бұрын

    Because Gundam Seed saved Gundam franchise from dying and the story is retelling of the original 1979 tv series but more extreme.

  • @zolarenard2246

    @zolarenard2246

    2 ай бұрын

    Kind of ironic that the whole series didn't even focus on the Gundam itself. And yes, it succeeded because of the major characters. The Gundams are just plot device

  • @user-ox2ow2yj6r
    @user-ox2ow2yj6r6 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed Gundam Seed and Gundam Seed Destiny

  • @SampeText
    @SampeText5 жыл бұрын

    ok first thing first, your presentation is gorgeous both bgm and animated parable

  • @davidlam7317
    @davidlam73175 жыл бұрын

    You did an aweaome job thanks for the analysis! Agreed with you completely

  • @blackmoon2128
    @blackmoon21283 жыл бұрын

    For me the thing that ruined seed for me was Kira, goddamn how I hated that character. There is a spinoff in the same universe in which the main character is a natural named 'sven', if Kira was replaced by him, the story and the series would be so much better in so many ways.

  • @charmserion8150
    @charmserion81505 жыл бұрын

    2000 till now I'm still watching GUNDAM SEED AND GUNDAM SEED DESTINY 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

  • @mediaaccount7820
    @mediaaccount78206 жыл бұрын

    Your content is so pro... I wish you success with your talent. You could make a living on your editing alone.

  • @leoballadares6368
    @leoballadares63686 жыл бұрын

    Loved the layout and card design you used during the segments, would love to see you analyze Turn A or any of the really great parts of Gundam most casual fans have never watched.

  • @sim.frischh9781
    @sim.frischh97816 жыл бұрын

    I don´t understand the Lacus fans either. Cagalli for me, tomboys are my favorite. What i liked about SEED is how close it stayed to the original but with the updated graphics, motion of characters and mecha were much more fluid and natural compared to 0079. Plus, it was one of the first GUNDAM shows that got released on Europe, generally a rarity among mecha titles. Oh man, now i got a confession to make: i dropped Turn-A after about the half and never gained any interest in it. Which means a lot, given that i finished Victory...

  • @KamenSentaiMetalHero

    @KamenSentaiMetalHero

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sim. Frischh Agree with you on Turn A. I watched the first few episodes and just quit. It was so boring. Victory is great.

  • @sim.frischh9781

    @sim.frischh9781

    6 жыл бұрын

    I hated Victory, everyone seemed to die in such a useless way. But i respect your tastes, it just didn´t do it for me.

  • @KamenSentaiMetalHero

    @KamenSentaiMetalHero

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sim. Frischh Thanks ☺️

  • @JonMillermusic
    @JonMillermusic6 жыл бұрын

    Literally the soundtrack was the most memorable part about the seed series. I remember watching this show on saturday nights on toonami when it first aired. Feels good music. Only watching the series as an adult do its flaws. Still a decent anime and translates well over time. 6/10

  • @bobbybaitey
    @bobbybaitey6 жыл бұрын

    First off I'd like to say... This was a good video. I like hearing different points of view, and because of you I'm going to watch Turn A finally. Thank you.

  • @skylordianandy2644
    @skylordianandy26446 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! Very informative. I always wondered why it was still so popular.

  • @lyren.4652
    @lyren.46522 жыл бұрын

    Gundam Seed and Seed Destiny have complex stories, and they all come together nicely. I also loved how most characters developed throughout the 2 series, from Kira...to Ramius....to Cagalli. Songs are also great, unforgettable for me❤

  • @TeaDrinkingOspin
    @TeaDrinkingOspin6 жыл бұрын

    LONG LIVE THE OG FREEDOM GUNDAM, that and the bloody valentine war is why I stuck to it with unicorn and 08th MS Team being my 2nd favs, whenever I get bored of Gundam, I always end up back into it by stumbling upon a SEED song/ost or BATTLE OF ORB...Akatsuki No Kuruma gets to tears every time.

  • @FreedomIII

    @FreedomIII

    Жыл бұрын

    Akatsuki no Kuruma is a great gateway song to the rest of Kajiura Yuki's music (which includes stuff "by" Fiction Junction)

  • @a.p.980
    @a.p.9803 жыл бұрын

    I used to watch gundam when it was on toonami. I haven't watched since then but want to get back into it. what do you guys recommend?

  • @davidwanc11
    @davidwanc116 жыл бұрын

    I've watched a few episodes of the OG gundam and wing when I was a kid. Seed, however, was the series that made me a mecha fan. So even if seed is not the best gundam anime in hindsight, it still has a very special place in my heart.

  • @thegardenofesim1174
    @thegardenofesim11746 жыл бұрын

    That moment that i liked gundam seed not due to all the drama or gundam that was mentioned but rather due to ship battles. I just love the ship battles together with their jargon during a fight like they do not just say fire to that target but say a whole lot of things Also why did my fave character have to die Natarle? Meanwhile MU survived for some reason?????????

  • @dynamicworlds1

    @dynamicworlds1

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Garden of E sim 117 just do what I do and write off Destiny as a high budget fanfic (it has the same writing problems as one). Mu had an epic death and fuck messing with that for a BS amnesia plot.

  • @joshuamondebelen1627

    @joshuamondebelen1627

    6 жыл бұрын

    I salute Natarle until the end.

  • @thegardenofesim1174

    @thegardenofesim1174

    6 жыл бұрын

    Joshua Mon De Belen me too

  • @thegardenofesim1174

    @thegardenofesim1174

    6 жыл бұрын

    DynamicWorlds yes that looks like a good medicine to swallow

  • @htf5555

    @htf5555

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes yes that. I like how they made the military feel like a functional one.

  • @yeah6281
    @yeah62813 жыл бұрын

    I love seed and destiny. I understand all the critics that people have against Seed and destiny but honestly, in the end it's my childhood's memories that matter to me though. And not gonna lie how badass the gundams are, the story is okay but I'm okay with it. IN THE END IT DOESN"T EVEN MATTER!

  • @Kyroro97
    @Kyroro976 жыл бұрын

    liked and subscribed. Love this channel, need more videos like this.

  • @LucaLukaszPascua
    @LucaLukaszPascua2 жыл бұрын

    I never watch any Gundam series until Seed was shown in Cartoon Network. Sure G and Wing was being shown before, but I stop watching after the first episode at the time it wasnt my interest. Seed held a special place for me for introducing me to Gundam. I recognize the flaws in the series as I watch them. But I was more invested in this series than others.

  • @todddavis2041
    @todddavis20416 жыл бұрын

    Gundam SEED is in my top 4 favourite Gundam series. I love SEED Destiny when I first watched it, SEED is better in the long run however. I look forward to watching Turn A sometime this year!

  • @romutulus253
    @romutulus2536 жыл бұрын

    I really don't think the romance part was done well at all. Especially Lacus and Kira... that really felt like it came out of nowhere.

  • @Raydnt69

    @Raydnt69

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not really, they already started a bond when they first met on the Archangel. Lacus already saw what a gentle person Kira was during her brief stay on the Archangel When she made her way back to the plants she told Arthun that she was "quite fond" of Kira, signifying her attraction to him. Then when Kira was rescued after his battle with Athrun he had quite some time to get more antiquated with Lacus while he was healing. And then Lacus gives Kira the Freedom, to not kill as Flay wanted him to, but to protect. This ideal rings soundly with Kira, which gives an attraction to Lacus on his end. Finally when they reunite in space, they solidify their bond as Lacus depends on Kira for emotional support after her father died while Kira doing the same after finding out the truth about himself. So naw, not really out of nowhere.

  • @romutulus253

    @romutulus253

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well, but all of that are all inferred. The show certainly was not trying to lead us that way until it happened. "Quite fond" could mean the various levels of attractions. And holding the same ideal doesn't mean that you need to be emotionally attracted to her. It's more like... you can consider her as a comrade or sth. I don't know really... It feels like you are putting a lot more words into the story than the story writer is. I understand that not all shows will throw you all the information, but this isn't even subtle, it's basically nonexistent.

  • @Raydnt69

    @Raydnt69

    6 жыл бұрын

    It seems you disregard my evidence purely based on your speculation of the scenes. Well, to you it would look like it was out of nowhere since you think nothing of those scenes. They wouldnt have Lacus say something like that about Kira unless there was a good reason. Its supposed to be subtle, theres a lot of subtle parts in this series. Sure I might be looking into it a little bit more, but thats what you have to do with subtle scenes, gotta look beyond. If you didnt notice any of it then I guess its just how you see it. They're together, I explained evidence, if you dont see it then you just dont see it I suppose.

  • @zanelewar8429
    @zanelewar84293 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for creating this video. It was very informative.

  • @brocookingwithjay4937
    @brocookingwithjay49376 жыл бұрын

    Love this one. It’s sooo good.

  • @NeginoSora
    @NeginoSora6 жыл бұрын

    Lacus is still the most beautiful pink hair character EVER drawn in anime history even when im Athrun x Cagali team

  • @Sextafeira7017

    @Sextafeira7017

    4 жыл бұрын

    i completely agree!! She soo pretty!!!

  • @huy1k995

    @huy1k995

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well I'm team Shinn and Stella since that ship have much more potential for growth but have to agree, Lacus is easy on the eyes. Just don't look too hard into her actions though then it become TERRIFYING.

  • @zainmudassir2964

    @zainmudassir2964

    3 жыл бұрын

    Love Lacus❤

  • @hollycowitsarat
    @hollycowitsarat6 жыл бұрын

    Gundam seed Stargazer was what seed and seed destiny should have been.

  • @WaiLIp

    @WaiLIp

    6 жыл бұрын

    damn that spin-off is dark af. but also the best one in the Seed series

  • @hollycowitsarat

    @hollycowitsarat

    6 жыл бұрын

    But it was so good! Best hour I spent on the Seed timeline.

  • @nurlindafsihotang49

    @nurlindafsihotang49

    5 жыл бұрын

    Stargazer...damn, that was a waste of potential to make it just 1 movie

  • @Matanumi

    @Matanumi

    4 жыл бұрын

    Stargazer had a low budget and didn't get to explain enough with what little screen time it had

  • @vasilmirchev4555
    @vasilmirchev45556 жыл бұрын

    Cause it takes everything from the core UC OVAs (08th MS team and Stardust Memory) and combines them into a full length show.

  • @abceasyable
    @abceasyable4 жыл бұрын

    @6:00 Can someone please tell me which episode this scene is from ? I literally just finished SEED like two days ago and I don't remember seeing this scene.

  • @abceasyable

    @abceasyable

    4 жыл бұрын

    k nvm I found it lol...its from episode 11

  • @jerankorak7997
    @jerankorak79976 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry, but I really can't agree with almost everything you've said here. For one thing, the bias in this analysis is overwhelming. Now, you do make good points about things like the way the interpersonal drama of the characters draws heavily from OTT K-Drama, but a great deal of the conclusions you come to are just... bizarre. Let's begin with your assertion that 'the man can only change and improve thanks to the influence of that one special girl in his life'. How did you come to this conclusion? SEED has a pretty well-defined and solid character arc for both of its main characters; Kira and Arthrun. Yes, they do receive considerable character development from their interactions with Lacus and Cagali, but this is in _tandem_ with the very extensive character development they receive from other sources. Kira in particular is arguably more influenced by the likes of Mu La Flaga, Rau and Arthrun. Lacus doesn't even have that large of a physical presence during SEED itself; she shows up once during the space arc for her initial bonding with Kira, and then doesn't see him again until over halfway through the series. Their relationship is surprisingly low-key, and her influence mostly serves to push him over the edge of decisions he was very much in the process of making already. To make this assertion is to neuter the story of much of its nuance and intricacy. The next assertion I have to take issue with is this; 'SEED [...] follows a basic mainstream narrative, by simplifying the story to its basic elements and nullifying the complex themes and subject matter, you get an easily digestible series capable of reaching a wide audience, especially children.' At this point, I have to sincerely ask; did you watch the same show that everyone else did? SEED is renowned for having a complex plot that extensively deconstructs the concept of a generic good versus evil narrative, arguably _more so_ than the UC era ever managed. Throughout the entire early portions of the show, the central character dynamic is Kira fighting for a side that is actively seeking to destroy his own people. The writer takes great pains to show how both sides are morally grey, and that a victory by either side would mean the virtual extinction or subjugation of the other. In the original MSG, Zeon are depicted as consistently evil throughout, and the show never comments on what will happen to the colonies after the Earth Federation has conquered them again. The series was also noted for never shying away from showing the true horrors of war, as well as the racial tensions that exist between the Naturals and the Coordinators. I must also take issue with your definition of the show as 'easily digestible'. Rather than debate this, I'm just going to include a list of scenes that are presented without censorship during the course of the animation. 1) The destruction of a colony by nuclear weapons, and the hundreds of civilians that are either vaporized or suffer from explosive decompression as the hull is ruptured. 2) A shuttle full of civilians exploding from a beam rifle shot, as shown from the interior in slow motion. 3) A laboratory full of dead children, complete with tanks of decaying fetuses. 4) Images of said children being experimented on and killing each other in trials to produce super-soldiers. 5) Multiple sequences of people being cooked from the inside out by microwave radiation, then bursting like blisters. 6) A character being violently decapitated by the blunt edge of a shield thrown through the cockpit of the Skygrasper he is inside at the time. 7) A main villain being disintegrated by direct exposure to a beam saber, in slow motion. 8) The complete destruction of a major city by an out-of-control super-weapon, with many shots of civilians being vaporized by energy weapons, crushed by debris, or torn apart by explosions. 9) Surrendering soldiers being executed by mobile suit grade projectile fire, blowing them to pieces. 10) Shinn witnessing the death of his entire family, complete with a lingering shot of his little sister's severed, bleeding arm lying mere feet from him. 11) Lone Coordinators being violently lynched by hate mobs. And this list goes on. And on. And on. I actually missed out a fair few that sprung to mind, simply because I couldn't think of ways to easily summarize them. I would also dispute your argument that the heroes and villains of SEED are binary in nature. Again; the show takes great pains to show how both sides go from one extreme to another, being manipulated into increasingly greater acts of violence and retaliation until neither one can see any solution but genocide. The main villain, Rau Le Crueset, has a rather tragic backstory and spent most of his childhood as the plaything of a megalomaniac who denied him even the most basic form of self-identity. He is also a flawed clone, doomed to die in his early thirties or forties. All of the personality traits that make him a villain are explored in some detail by SEED, and further - posthumously - in Destiny. Muruta Azrael on the other hand is much more actively evil and unsympathetic, but he is also supposed to serve as an example of how paranoia and mistrust inevitably allows fascistic monsters to take control over society and twist it to evil ends. Even _then_, the show goes out of its way to demonstrate that he does not have total backing by his underlings, who question his authority and his plans for genocide constantly. In the end, he dies after being betrayed by the very individual he personally selected to command his flagship, due to her loyalty and dedication to the chain of command. I could go on for many paragraphs, but I hope I've demonstrated my points adequately enough in this mini-essay here. I think this video has _some_ decent points, but it _vastly_ overestimates the impact of these points and hugely downplays all the really good things contained within the Cosmic Era timeline.

  • @KamenSentaiMetalHero

    @KamenSentaiMetalHero

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jeran Korak TV Tropes actually called this one of the darkest Gundam series. Agree with what you said.☺️

  • @PosumWhacker

    @PosumWhacker

    6 жыл бұрын

    You are absolutely right. Good job.

  • @jerankorak7997

    @jerankorak7997

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I appreciate the support. To clarify something; I don't think SEED is the best Gundam show, and it has plenty of flaws and issues that can be analyzed from a pretty objective standpoint. I do however like it a lot for what it manages to do right. Even Destiny, despite fumbling many, many times, has its own virtues and a lot more depth than people often give it credit for. If people dislike SEED and its sequel, that's their prerogative. But I do feel a certain need to critique and dissemble arguments about it that don't seem to have any real veracity to them.

  • @kman2384

    @kman2384

    6 жыл бұрын

    *"SEED is renowned for having a complex plot that extensively deconstructs the concept of a generic good versus evil narrative, arguably more so than the UC era ever managed."* Umm...it seems like you were just watched a tiny part of U.C., but before I said anything may I ask that did you watch (or read) any of the U.C. era after the original?

  • @gendouhydeist

    @gendouhydeist

    6 жыл бұрын

    couldn't agree more! This what I loved about this series, it tackles the moral judgement of humanity whether it was good to modify our DNA for the better of humanity (Coordinators) vs the normal human being (naturals). It also tackles of what might happen when Humanity takes the route of human enhancement which is very achievable now, for instance if the people suddenly have a cognitive enchantment due to genetic engineering and they became the most smartest being on earth and because of our moral compass today for the religious it would blasphemy, and in most extreme cases imagine the slavery period slaves became super smart I'm pretty sure that slave people would be extinct (I admit this is a worst example). This is just one of the example of human behaviors and in SEED it just tackles of all that. That's why I don't really know the hate on SEED, I'm pretty sure that people who watch didn't understand the message of the series or just haters who join the bandwagon of haters and just hating it. This where SICnanigans biased comes in, her logical argument she's states how ordinary this series is and focused on how clean and to her eyes how bishounen drawing style it was, by that conclusion she argues about how money making industry makes money. In business perspectives she hates how business industry makes money talking about irony of the irony that's why haters gonna hate. Hopefully you understand my point, I'm not fluent in english at all.

  • @MrZuritag
    @MrZuritag6 жыл бұрын

    Gundam Seed/Destiny is going Blu ray, with seed having a re dub :D in 2018. woot yes it's popular even still.

  • @TehAnimeHQ
    @TehAnimeHQ6 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Your editing is top notch. I myself have never been able to get into any Gundam. Is Turn a Gundam a good starting point? If not what would be a good starting point?

  • @Colegial24

    @Colegial24

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mobile Suit Gundam (1979) Compilation Movies is the best Starting point. Universal Century is the best Gundam Universe and the compilation movies of the original series are better than the actual series (they remove much material not needed). If you don't like or can't stand old anime I would suggest watching Gundam Thunderbolt for a taste of Gundam Universal Century without pre-required knowledge. If you choose not to tackle the Universal Century for one reason or another, then my second suggestion would be Mobile Suit Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans. It takes a few episodes to understand the direction its headed, but its a good space drama and Gundam set in an alternate Gundam universe with some pretty interesting mechanics. It's also pretty new.

  • @TehAnimeHQ

    @TehAnimeHQ

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, I will keep all this in mind for when I try to get into the Gundam series. Thank you.

  • @androyus

    @androyus

    6 жыл бұрын

    Just like to add that Gundam 00 is also a good gateway to Gundam franchise. From UC, you can also watch *Gundam 08th MS Team* and then follow it by watching *Gundam 0080*. I've tried those two myself (in that order) as my first entries to UC Gundams and it worked beautifully for me. From there, I went to the first *MSG* and checked out other UC titles based on their release dates. Turn-A can be a bad gateway to Gundam if you're not used to Tomino's rapidfire-style storytelling where characters talk so fast you barely have a time to digest one line yet you're already hit by another line and another & another. Before watching Turn-A, at least do some warm up by watching the first MSG (TV or movies are fine, both have their pluses and minuses) and Zeta Gundam.

  • @onigekko141

    @onigekko141

    6 жыл бұрын

    I recomend Gundam: Iron blooded orphans, 8th ms team and Thunderbolt

  • @ginger-ham4800

    @ginger-ham4800

    6 жыл бұрын

    Turn A Gundam is one of the last entries you should watch for plot reasons.

  • @panele3525
    @panele35256 жыл бұрын

    THANK. YOU. I was JUUUST talking to my bestest bud about this, and you captured EVERYTHING I was saying too it's scary xDD all done in a WONDERFUL video format. SEED Destiny was my very first series, which then drove me to the craze of watching everything else as well. And as much as I can try to claim other series to be my favorite, Destiny will always haunt me for the nostalgia and lovey dovey overdose that caught my attention when I was younger. Honestly I love the whole cheesy lovey stuff in Gundam series (thats I guess what I was looking for in watching all the other series?), and is thus why G Gundam is actually (and ironically) on top of my list of favorites followed up by 08th MS Team.

  • @ay3590_
    @ay3590_6 жыл бұрын

    3:57 is that the word “SEXCAM” on the right hand side of the screen

  • @none-q4o

    @none-q4o

    3 жыл бұрын

    SCXCAM

  • @Phoreverman
    @Phoreverman Жыл бұрын

    Truthfully I don't even like the MS designs, but I AM grateful for it's place within the Gundam franchise as a whole. Great video!

  • @nicovespruzzi6963

    @nicovespruzzi6963

    Жыл бұрын

    But Verde Buster

  • @Phoreverman

    @Phoreverman

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nicovespruzzi6963 that one's ok. Astray's my favorite but I can't bring myself to even get kits of anything from SEED.

  • @OneTrueDread
    @OneTrueDread5 жыл бұрын

    This video is really interesting ^^ As someone who has been watching Gundam Seed (on and off until now) it's good to hear someone talk about it from the perspective of a Gundam fan. Yes, it is an easy way to get into the Gundam series, and it has some pretty cheesy moments (and especially Flay for about 80% of the show), but I think that some do love the cheesiness, the K-Drama levels of drama. Hell, this show got me yelling at my screen because of certain moments, like the end of Phase 40 or when Ramius and La Flaga kissed (because we all knew that was gonna happen but it was still enjoyable nonetheless) But I am glad I came across your video, even if it was because it was recommended on a video of the first intro ^^'

  • @jonspectre1103
    @jonspectre11036 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video! Also, I loved those little cards you used. It would be great if you shared a link to those and also the gorgeous pictures of Loran from Turn A

  • @animemaster195
    @animemaster1956 жыл бұрын

    The reason why I love the side stories or alternate timelines like seed and 00 is because the stories are much more condensed and you don't need prior knowledge of the previous series or events. I have tried many times to watch the main timeline gundam series but I always find myself lost and hardly knowing what's going on. And I've even tried slogging through the original gundam anime, but to me it's not a fun watch. So I cannot retain it or will essentially not pay attention to it because it's not interesting to watch. But for side stories like seed, G Gundam, 00, etc. They're all fun to watch and I can get into them without needing to know any backstory

  • @TheOtakuChic
    @TheOtakuChic6 жыл бұрын

    I LOVE YOU MOMMY

  • @cherrycardoza405
    @cherrycardoza4056 жыл бұрын

    Glad to see you back Sooin.

  • @TheOtogi
    @TheOtogi6 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed this video, and the art you use is top notch for selling premise (plus they look rad). Also, what's your favorite non-gundam mecha series?

  • @battousaigenshin5671
    @battousaigenshin56716 жыл бұрын

    because its f***ing amazing

  • @ferhog7705

    @ferhog7705

    6 жыл бұрын

    Run.

  • @cyberninjazero5659

    @cyberninjazero5659

    6 жыл бұрын

    HAHAHAHAHAHA

  • @557deadpool

    @557deadpool

    6 жыл бұрын

    fuck off

  • @AKUNJIG
    @AKUNJIG6 жыл бұрын

    I repeatedly watch this series like a rush because of the Soundtrack and that Mwu X Murrue and Athrun X Cagali are my Favorite Gundam Couples. Let's also add the ZGMF-X10A Freedom is my Second favorite Gundam next to GN-00 Gundam 00 Raiser.

  • @freedomkirax1020a
    @freedomkirax1020a6 жыл бұрын

    Loved your analysis. And find funny how we are two extremes as my opinion of Turn A is basically what you think of SEED. But both are Gundam, that is to me what really matters.

  • @KamenSentaiMetalHero

    @KamenSentaiMetalHero

    6 жыл бұрын

    Gundam Kira yeah, I don't like Turn A either.

  • @Blackcloud288
    @Blackcloud2886 жыл бұрын

    Woah, please do more stuff, you're great!

  • @comradefreedom8275
    @comradefreedom82756 жыл бұрын

    You just got yourself another UC fan subscriber. Me right here. Good video.

  • @Sonicfalcon16
    @Sonicfalcon166 жыл бұрын

    Seed people liked or disliked. But even Seed fans didn't like destiny. I should know

  • @Sonicfalcon16

    @Sonicfalcon16

    6 жыл бұрын

    I like Turn A aswell.

  • @somechinesedude5466

    @somechinesedude5466

    6 жыл бұрын

    I like destiny Until ep12 anyway, then they go batshit Durandal 1st mistake is assasination, should've not done that

  • @Sonicfalcon16

    @Sonicfalcon16

    6 жыл бұрын

    I really am looking forward to those remakes. Because I want to see how much runback stuff destiny will get. The guy and his orange GOUF among other things

  • @dstorres75
    @dstorres755 жыл бұрын

    Having never looked into the history of the show you gave me some new info. I personally like both series (I don't think they are perfect) but I highly enjoy them to this day. Turn A Gundam howver I have never seen and based on the bits I have... never will.

  • @blitz-frenchman663
    @blitz-frenchman6636 жыл бұрын

    A solid, digestible, and entertaining analysis. Consider my sub earned.

  • @ImJCyo
    @ImJCyo6 жыл бұрын

    I tried to watch Turn A. The animation and art style was killing me. But I'll try it again. It's the only series I haven't watched yet.

  • @angelserenade

    @angelserenade

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just watched the first episode.. god I was already lost... the animation is kinda clunky and there were scenes that doesn't make sense. The soundtrack as good at most. The main protagonist a of different color, so that's a plus... I guess. Maybe I'm being hard on this anime since it's just the first episode. But I do want to watch more of it

  • @rakusukira
    @rakusukira6 жыл бұрын

    It was the Gundam series that got me hooked to Gundam.

  • @chloe38583
    @chloe385836 жыл бұрын

    Iron blood orphans was the my first gundam. Heros on a quest + love story + savagery. Cool upload SICnanigans

  • @kunairuto
    @kunairuto6 жыл бұрын

    YOUR GIRL IS BACK

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