Old testament shows us how much God hates sin and how much He loves us. We are really in times of grace because God would have consumed us by now.

@paola-pd4xl

Жыл бұрын

Agree God is love

@26RealKutVoodooThoatZoe26

Жыл бұрын

Not really

@bruhwhat7863

Жыл бұрын

saying that the old testament god was loving is like saying hitler is a good guy because he liked dogs

@SalsaSippin_

Жыл бұрын

The god of the Old Testament is Satan Jesus pointed out. The god that Moses contacted Satan. But nobody had seen his father.

@marceld8961

Жыл бұрын

Yahweh is actually satan or the beast. The Father of Jesus and Yahweh are two different people? Jesus Father is kind, loving, merciful, and loving. The Heavenly Father does not lie. Yahweh is wrath and even lied to the prophets by sending a lying spirit to the prophets.

I have never considered this to be a question because God is the same yesterday, today, & tomorrow. And in Revelation God deals with sin once and for all by pouring out His wrath. Love the answers here and love this channel! Thank you!!

@abbaszahabi2917

2 жыл бұрын

jesus showed and taught his father how to care and love and not kill.

@kathynorman7112

2 жыл бұрын

God loves us so much that if we sin we burn in hell forever! That's not love, that's sick!

@kathynorman7112

2 жыл бұрын

God wanted slaves

@matthewbrown9029

2 жыл бұрын

@@abbaszahabi2917 how do you come to that conclusion? You can't actually exegete that out of the Bible at all

@abbaszahabi2917

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewbrown9029 read the bible on the logic way this time not emotionaly.then you dicern.

Before I listen, my ‘thoughts’ are that God has not changed. In the New Testament, the difference is His wrath was satisfied through the sacrifice of His Son in the New Testament, so now everyone is able to receive mercy if they just call out to Him.

@josephpack7315

2 жыл бұрын

No way God is that sick and sadistic. You’ve been misled.

@kingdomlyricz2578

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephpack7315 The Bible says He doesn’t change and His ways are not our ways. His wrath was satisfied when Jesus died on that cross for all of our sins and iniquity. Jesus was our atonement for all sin. There’s nothing sick or sadistic about it. God gave His one and only Son so that we could be saved. Jesus was the only One Who could live a perfect life and take on all the sin of the world, so that we wouldn’t have to. That’s mercy, that’s love.

@josephpack7315

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingdomlyricz2578 well that’s just not true. Sorry. And I base that on what God said, not man.

@kingdomlyricz2578

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephpack7315 Really? Could you show me the Bible verses? And could you tell me what god you’re talking about?

@kingdomlyricz2578

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephpack7315 Isaiah 53:10 ESV Yet it was the will of the Lord to crush him; he has put him to grief; when his soul makes an offering for guilt, he shall see his offspring; he shall prolong his days; the will of the Lord shall prosper in his hand. (talking about Jesus) 1 Peter 3:18 ESV For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, “Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”), that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.” ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:13-14‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 2:2 1 Peter 2:24 ESV He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed. Jesus dying on the cross was His will, and His wrath was poured out on Jesus, who was innocent. The wrath was so great that Jesus literally cried out to God “if it’s possible, please Father, take this cup from Me, but let not my will, but Your will be done”. Jesus took our place and died the death that we deserved that way we could be saved. This pleased God. God told John that He is well pleased with His Son, because His One and Only Son was obedient and perfect in His walk with His Father until death.

thank you again!

Thank you!

The first five books of the OT shows how much mercy and love He had for the Jews. As I read it, the Jews were irritating me, lol, but God had so much compassion for them. I think the difference people see is the tone. For example, in the OT any woman who committed adultery was stoned to death. Then, in the NT, look at how much compassion He had for the woman who was caught in the act of adultery. You can see differences there. The woman at the well is another example. He told her that He is not condemning her, but in the OT He condemned such a thing. Feedback requested.

1:47 But it’s not just that He would chastise right? In Exodus 32:26-28 it says that Moses commands that the ones who committed the sin of idolatry be slain by the ones who didn’t, and that 3000 people died that day. That’s much harsher than a simple chastising

@ancientgear7192

Жыл бұрын

It's murder.

@shinchannohara5621

Жыл бұрын

Yuk..disgusting

@FlyingAlfredoSaucer

Жыл бұрын

@@ancientgear7192 its harsh, but it isn't murder

@melisat6689

Жыл бұрын

This is your answer: Jesus say to Jewish people in John 8:44 : You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires.He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. SO CALLED GOD BY ISRAEL IN OLD TESTAMENT IS NOT THE REAL GOD! WAKE UP CHURCH!! End time is very near. Jesus keep saying He and Father is the same. Always forgiving always loving. Jesus come to show us the real God. Read your bible again ask for the light to show you the truth

@FlyingAlfredoSaucer

Жыл бұрын

@@melisat6689 it is the same God

True. God is a good but a very mysterious and all knowing God. This still doesn’t explain why He slaughtered so many innocent children in the Old but commands us to forgive in the New. I honestly believe we will not understand until we meet him face-to-face. After all He is God Almighty and answers to no one if He so chooses.

@marceld8961

Жыл бұрын

Because that wasn’t the Heavenly Father who was murdering all those people and even sending people to kill babies and children. That was Yahweh aka the god of this earth aka satan and the beast. The Heavenly Father and Yahweh are two different people. The Heavenly Father is kind, loving, merciful, and slow to anger. Yahweh is wrathful. You don’t see Jesus in the New Testament call his Father Yahweh or Jehovah. Jesus says Abba, Father, and the word Heavenly Father is used. Notice Jesus preaches the exact opposite of what Yahweh says or does from the Old Testament.

@glenhowell6909

Жыл бұрын

Why do you think they were innocent?

@stevesmith7843

11 ай бұрын

@@glenhowell6909 innocent or not they're Gods to take, for example Davids child was only just born, incapable of having sinned against the Lord, but it was Gods punishment on david that the child would die.... God is who he is, and his punishments are just, and righteous, all life belongs to God, it's his to take at his pleasure, for his purposes, for all things belong to him. All praise and glory to God.

@15m0

Ай бұрын

all dead children not knowing what is right and wrong are in Heaven if God decides to take them away, then it is for best

@Emerald-vk6up

13 күн бұрын

​@@15m0 maybe God saw it would be better for them to be with him than to suffer in the world

GOD PURPOSE IS TO REDEEM NOT TO DESTROY LAW OLD TESTAMENT GRACE NEW TESTAMENT BUT GOD IS THE SAME YESTERDAY TODAY AND TOMORROW HE HATES SINS BUT LOVED THOSE WHO REPENTED AND SEEK HIS BLESSINGS NOT CURSE.. JESUS IS THE ONLY. KING AND GOD FOR HIS PEOPLE THE IMMANU-EL GOD WANTS TO DWELL TO HIS PEOPLE.. THOSE WHO REBEL AND CHOOSE EVIL GOD WRATH IS REAL BECAUSE HE IS JUDGE.. GOD BLESS

The same yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

My thoughts before I watch the video were basically " If God is unchanging then why does the act so different between the old and the New Testament.

True*****

The 1611 KJV Bible had 80 books in 1682 the Catholic Church too 16 books out right there is a condrication. How much different would the Bible be if those books were kept in?

@gontse7582

8 ай бұрын

Which books were taken out?

God is a;ways the same God he cannot change and he is not a man that he should lie .

@c.m.303

2 жыл бұрын

God Our Father in Heaven does not change...but He does warn us that the deceiver is already here and that he desires to sit in the seat of Our Heavenly Father. The reason we can see such a big difference...opposites in fact, is because they are. the LORD of the old testament actually is (Yahweh) in the original text. and Yahweh or YHWH as it is spelled kills innocent, refuses to let the ill come near him, hardens hearts, and leads his people to destruction. We are also told that... John 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is Himself God and is at the Father's side, has made Him known. So whoever Moses talked to...wasn't God! The Messiah tells the church leaders who all follow YHWH of the Old Testament that they follow their father the devil and will never make it to the kingdom of God. And we are told clearly when we compare verses such as... 2 Samuel 24:1 Again the anger of the LORD (Yahweh) burned against Israel, and He stirred up David against them, saying, "Go and take a census of Israel and Judah." And in 1 Chronicles 21:1 we are told that same being is satan! And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel. The LORD of the old testament is what the Messiah warned us about and told us that satan is the god of this world. And although I do not understand all the reasons why...the Messiah died on the cross to "buy" back the souls that fell under satan's lies.

@stevesmith7843

11 ай бұрын

@@c.m.303 you're lost..... and you've completely missed it.... i truly hope your naive, and unlearned opinions, don't infect the minds of others.... for those who cause his little ones to stumble, for them it would be better that a millstone be tied around their neck, and cast into the sea..... we should all keep this in mind. God bless and keep you.

@c.m.303

11 ай бұрын

@@stevesmith7843 You attack me just like the Bible warns and yet you didn't mention which verse you don't like. Or is it that you accuse the son of God of lying? You speak of children yet are ok that YHWH killed thousands out of his uncontrolled rages that he later repented of. You are as the blind leading the blind.

@stevesmith7843

11 ай бұрын

@@c.m.303 The Lord never said he repented of commanding men women and children to be put to the sword that i can think of, he is who he is, and he commanded they be killed, that's his righteous judgement for which he need not apologize to anyone.....also you haven't done your due diligence in regards to the other verses you point out, this is evident by your ridiculous point of view...... you have little to no biblical understanding, the accusations you make here are unfounded, and show a profound lack of knowledge, discernment, and judgement. That isn't an attack, that's just the truth, sometimes it hurts..... but i hope one day your eyes are opened in any event. God bless and keep you.

@c.m.303

11 ай бұрын

@stevesmith7843 First off, shouldn't you at least be familiar with the stories if you can't be bothered to read the verses that were posted? Despite your childish accusations, you still didn't post one verse, but you go off saying that "the Lord" never repents that you are familiar with. Look it up! 2Sa 24:16 KJV And when the angel stretched out his hand upon Jerusalem to destroy it, the LORD repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed the people, It is enough: stay now thine hand. And the angel of the LORD was by the threshingplace of Araunah the Jebusite. This verse is from the very same story that I posted about already where "the Lord" killed 70,000 people that he tricked David into counting . If you had the tools for Bible study you could have searched to find 30 more verses. Do you really want to be counted with the people too stubborn to study a matter before condemning it? Of all the children "the Lord" killed, are you saying that you can't think of one time that it was unrighteous? I challenge you to post a verse where you think it was just.

I would say his wrath is much more lethal and ask as to why that is when compared to the New Testament

The only difference is there is the Jesus crucified on the cross. In the old testament, sin is covered by blood of animals. This does not remove sin but covered temporary. When Israel turn away from God to follow other false Gods, Israel stopped offering animals sacrifice for their sins. When their uncovered sins reach a certain limit, God has to punish them. But in the new testament which is after the death and resurrection of Jesus, all sins have been removed. Therefore, there is no longer for any need to offer animals as sacrifice for sins. Instead of punishment, God is dispensing grace and calling out to all man to accept his free gift of salvation. But punishment will still come at the end of the age of grace for those who rejected the salvation of God, those who trusted in their own good works as salvation and those who want to pay for their own sins. Hebrews 10:4 It is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.

@abbaszahabi2917

2 жыл бұрын

so you mean it was jesus that commanded to kill children and take captive young girls as your wives and take the livestock of their.same jesus that said do nonot return evil for evil?

@Goinghome2024

2 жыл бұрын

@@abbaszahabi2917 yes the same jesus that flooded the entire world to kill all the half demon half human giants. God seek to save but men seek self destruction. In order to preserve humanity, certain events has to happen

@abbaszahabi2917

2 жыл бұрын

@@Goinghome2024 did jesus say it to you that he is the one flooded the world .

@Goinghome2024

2 жыл бұрын

@@abbaszahabi2917 there is only 1 true God. And Jesus is the son of the true and living God. Jesus is God. Only God have the power the flood the entire earth

@stevesmith7843

11 ай бұрын

while it's true that you can't trust in your own good works for salvation, for all men have sinned against God, and that forgiveness comes through the blood of Christ, make no mistake, those who're lawless, those who don't earnestly try to obey the commandments of God, don't love him, they will be counted among the adversaries, and cast into the lake of fire, this is what the scriptures say, over and over again, even the scriptures that the modern and worldly church has dubbed all by it's own volition "the new testament", no such distinction is made in the scriptures. The primary message of the scriptures is the same from beginning to end, "obey and it shall go well with you, and you shall receive life, disobey and be an adversary to God, and be forever cursed"..... that is the long and short of the scriptures, and if you genuinely Love the Lord thy God with all your heart, mind, spirit, and strength, and love your neighbour as yourself, then you won't sin against God because you love him and will obey him, and neither will you sin against your neighbour because you love him as yourself..... thus the law will be fulfilled.... however no man is perfect, when we sin, we're to confess our sins to God, and pick up our cross once again, and follow after him. God bless and keep you.

People keep blaming God but forget about the devil

Why did God not start off with sending Jesus to die?

i hope all of here that have faith for the things that we were not witnessed for . but showing faith in same manner when you buy light bulb or ref or tv from store just buy these things by power of faith not test them .do you?

@coybi

2 жыл бұрын

What do you even mean? Nothing you said makes sense

@abbaszahabi2917

Жыл бұрын

@@coybi it make sense if you open your eyes .by faith you accept the things you never seen or witnessed for.but for things you buy for life you check them by open eyes

What I have come to is to call the OT revelation of God mysterious. Because there are certain things I cannot understand, being gentle and reformed in Spirit. I cannot comprehend idol worship in the traditional sense, meaning worshipping a metal statue. I cannot comprehend how isreal could rebel against a God who appeared to them in physical forms and signs all the time. I cannot understand how or why the Israelites were required to capture every city and kill pretty much every person in the promised land. Their opponent's were evil, and I guess that is one way to keep things pure. That God was angry with all of Israel because of one man's family (asher) stealing some objects and then 26 people died in battle because the Lord was not with them due to the guilt of that man's family. I can accept it on faith, with the idea that God will help me understand later. The God revealed in the OT is not perfectly revealed, but is shrouded in mystery and confusion. A bible believer my whole life of 37 years and the culture is so different from one testament to the other that I still cannot grasp it. But in faith, all things are possible.

@colvorn

Жыл бұрын

1. I think that Israel as humans are sinful despite the miracles or signs they won't just FULLY commit to the Lord due to their sinful nature. Just as they have been since the beginning with adam and eve they were pure and given a choice to identify good and evil for themselves than to trust in God and guide them to what the true Good and evil is. So this pattern kept on repeating on and on. This might be a weak example but it's the best I can think of. Me as a student wants to be a Doctor and the teachers always tells me to study hard so that I get to be a doctor and I know that this is the truth and I have seen everything that has to be done to reach my goal but despite all these evidences I just wouldn't do my part, always procastinate, ignore what the things that I should do which I know I should do inorder to reach my goal. The same with the Israelites they've been spared and chosen as the people of God and through them the world shall be blessed but despite the wondrous promises given to them, miracles they know and see firsthand since they got out of Egypt their nature/sin just kicks in and redirects to the wrong path. But not all hope is lost for God will always use these events through out history for his glory and everything will fall in place just as he promised.

@fadedhope5

Жыл бұрын

Im trying to understand but cant aswell. The God Who has revealed Himself to me in my life is beautiful an loving an forgiving an the only One who has truly been there for me but everytime i read the old testament something feels very wrong as if my spirit gets alarm signals blaring and my understanding of the God i know gets shaken i would appreciate chating more with you as i need someone too bounce thoughts off of who also is holdin onto faith

@colvorn

Жыл бұрын

@@fadedhope5 @Joshua Walters We have to remember that the old testament that the only way to cleanse someone from sin is through sacrifices of animals such as lambs and goats since the blood represents life according to the bible in replacement of a persons judgement the animal shall die for the person and be cleaned but only temporarily and once they commit sin they once again need a sacrifice to cleanse themselves. We also need to remember that God is eternally just and holy but he is also eternally loving ang gracious so it is really not surprising if he is brutal however you might want to put it since he is Holy and and just he will punish those who are sinful but because of his love and grace he made a way to purify and save mankind from his eternal wrath through his only begotten son Jesus. The old testament is a story of the history of creation, Gods promise to save mankind from sin and the display of his eternal Justice and Glory it also is sort of a filter for us to see if we are clean and live by the commandments of God. Through the old testament we can see history time and time again how humans are really corrupt and there is no way for us to be saved except through his promise to Abraham and later on the other prophets that there will be a Glorious King that will save us all from sin. That's where the new testament comes in the enactment of the prophecies which God has revealed in the old testament. The display of Christ sinless life and he shoulder all of mankind's sin by dying on the cross despite bearing no sin and showing his eternal Love and Grace.

@SilentEchoMatthew

Жыл бұрын

How do you live in faith without your mind seeming to believe? I have been struggling with this for so many years now?

God's name in the OT is Yahweh. Have you ever wondered why Jesus never call his Father this name? Exodus 21:24-25 says eye for an eye but Jesus says do not resist in Matthew 5:38-39. Obviously different teaching.

This is a feel good video about who we want to believe who God is, but it completely neglects the actual reasons why people ask this question. This video does not talk about why God allows entire nations to be destroyed in the Old Testament. It does not talk about the Israelites killing 3000 of their own in genesis 32. It does not talk about why we celebrate David after reading his stories and songs of war. It does not talk about God sending two bears to maul 42 kids for mocking Elisha. Those are some of the questions that I have dealt with along with several other people that I have spoken to.

@stevesmith7843

11 ай бұрын

i don't have an issue with any of those things, God is who he is, and all life literally BELONGS to him, to do with as it pleases him. If he determines that's the punishment, so be it, who are we as men to argue with the Lord? God is who he is, he isn't who people WANT him to be...... his ways are his, and all authority is his. Do you take issue with what the Lord has deemed fit to do? (i'm not assuming you do by the way, this is merely for IF you do) and if so why? do you know BETTER than he who created all of creation? better than he who searches the hearts of men, and will recompense them according to their deeds?......

@stevesmith7843

9 ай бұрын

@obe3690what contradiction?

@michaelbradley7621

6 ай бұрын

The Hebrew world that king James translates as children actually refers to a group of young men. It's unlikely that 42 literal children were standing outside to mock a man. There's missing context in what you said about that anyways. Also, the Israelites were killed by Moses for idolatry. Imagine you are god and you just pulled a people out of servitude and a short time later they're questioning you and praising a golden calf, I have a feeling you wouldn't be too happy with that. Also, the fact that Moses had them put to death just strengthens the position that he had a genuine experience with god. If he made it up for power, as modern "experts" claim, then I doubt he'd slay three thousand much needed laborers and warriors for offending a god he made up in his own mind.

The change is God knew that His Son Jesus is to die for our sins. Old testament was about saving the soul...because whoever suffers in the body is done with sin. 1 Peter 4

@DjMakinetor

2 жыл бұрын

And who is the true God? God Jesus son of Joseph and David or God Jesus son of Nun?

@26RealKutVoodooThoatZoe26

Жыл бұрын

Lol😅

You say they’re aren’t contradictions but why is it that we only see god’s wrath in the Old Testament? Where are the New Testament equivalents of the flood, the plagues, raining literal fire and brimstone on a city, turning someone into a pillar of fire? All the New Testament verses you use are only people telling others that god will punish them but no examples of his wrath, outside of things like Jesus flipping the merchants tables at the temple.

@spiddyman0079

Жыл бұрын

revalation bro

@shaunigothictv1003

Жыл бұрын

Excellent analysis Edward.

@gleam7138

Жыл бұрын

I think maybe since the old testament was before God’s full fulfillment of salvation through Christ. As the bible says we are made right by Jesus’ blood. We have to remember God is both just and merciful. In His justice He can not overlook our sins or leave them uncondemned, but in His mercy made us right by Jesus blood. So since now Jesus has made us right, maybe that’s why we no longer have to experience those type of events, and i thank God for that. God bless ✝️🫶

@APsGTG

Ай бұрын

@@spiddyman0079 I was gonna say. Revelation is more brutal than the entirety of the OT combined

God orders David to wipe out whole villages and take prisoners and woman for themselves, compared to sermon on the mount ...love your enemies...not same God in my book

Who is Yahweh? Refer to 2 Samuel 24:1 "and again the anger of Yahweh was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah" Now cross-reference this to 1 Chronicles 21:1 "And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel". Also Gen 3:1-8 "Satan came in the form of a HISSING SERPENT", Isaiah 7:18 "And it shall come to pass in that day, that YAHWEH shall HISS". The mystery of the ages which has blinded and confused the Christian world these past 2000+ years is that the OT is a Jewish book of stories about 2 gods, their tribal god called Yahweh, and the true God, the Father which Jesus came to reveal and to save us from the condemnation of Yahweh. Why do you think Yahweh gave them the 10 commandments? The law kills like Paul said because it's a setup! No one can keep them, so Yahweh is guaranteed to bring death to ALL mankind (The wages of sin is death). Jesus beat him at his own game by "fulfilling" all of them and being killed sinless! Why do you think Jesus rose from the dead? because he didn't earn the punishment of death! Death could not hold him to any sin! There are two ways to know which god the OT is referring to at any time. 1. look at the original word for God, Lord, and see if it is Yahweh or EL (EL is the Father). 2. The Father (True God) is love, cannot lie, has no darkness in Him, does not want sacrifices, and much more, Yahweh is the complete opposite, he comes to steal, kill, lie and destroy. Look it up yourselves and be free of the religious matrix. Peace.

@liliesofthefield777

Жыл бұрын

Have you looked up YHWH in Hebrew?? When you break it down to the letters, It means “behold the hand, behold the nail” Referring directly to Jesus

Slow to anger. You better go back and read OT again. I

@Ebolson1019

2 жыл бұрын

OT: people are sinning, wipe them out with a flood NT: people are sinning, send the son to die for them Two different reactions to the same issue

@26RealKutVoodooThoatZoe26

Жыл бұрын

Lol God said f**beep that Sh*beep kill them ALL 😂

threres two tree in eden one is life and the other is evil or god because she ate from the one that became one of gods.

Gentle and Merciful vrs Sodom Gomora

@brittanyhayes1043

2 жыл бұрын

He's both. Don't be sexually immoral.

@brittanyhayes1043

2 жыл бұрын

Especially if you threaten the two messengers that were sent to Levi to warn the city. The way I read it sounded like a rape threat to the two Angels.

I just figured maybe we were the first beings God ever created in his likeness and with free will. If that is the case then God would have no previous interactions with beings so much like himself. We have each other to interact with as equals but God would would have no equal to interact with. Before we learn how to interact, how do we behave when we don't get our way? As babies, we throw a fit. Perhaps our likeness to God is not only our appearance but also our wide range of emotions. God is all knowing, as in the universe and everything in it, but that might not mean God does not still learn about himself. The Bible says God wept after the flood. Maybe he did not weep because he felt he made a mistake, but rather the way it made him feel to have to do such a thing. It is as if he did not expect to feel that way afterward if you ask me. God made a realization about himself it seems. We grow inwardly, perhaps God does also. We make decisions differently than we would when we were children, perhaps God also makes decisions differently now than he did back then based on what he has experienced over time. To say God does not grow would be to limit a limitless God.

@stevesmith7843

11 ай бұрын

i hear what your saying, however God is who he is, he's not who any of us WANT him to be..... You're right that God has the same wide range of emotions that we do, this is made VERY clear in scripture, the only difference is God is PERFECT in these emotions, his ANGER is PERFECT, his WRATH is PERFECT his JUSTICE is PERFECT, his LOVE is PERFERCT, his JOY is PERFECT as is his SADNESS, and RAGE, and JEALOUSY...... etc, unlike ours, where we're nearly incapable of such things in this fallen state..... this is one of the reasons i believe while we can pursue JUSTICE, it's VENGEANCE that shall be the Lords, for his vengeance will be perfect, not under measured, netiher over, but perfect, fitting the crime fully.... i don't think saying God doesn't grow would be limiting a limitless God.... i would instead say that God has already attained PERFECTION and the FULLNESS thereof, by which, nothing can be added, nor taken away, there is no shadow or variation with him, he is the same today, yesterday, and tomorrow, he who is, he who was and he who is yet to come, the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, he IS who he is, and he is God eternal. God bless and keep you :)

@avery1234530

11 ай бұрын

@@stevesmith7843 his state of perfection I just assumed was meant to say there is no decay, and he is all powerful. Perhaps I as a limited human, only have the ability to see things on my own terms. Why would a perfect God, perfect in all things, create imperfect humans that are disobedient and disappointing? Why would he be disappointed if he is all knowing? He knew in the beginning all that would happen, yet his behavior consistently is like that of one not knowing. That is why I guess I make the assumption for myself that his actions and emotions toward men so very much resemble the tantrums of a toddler. There was a documentary on child development that caught my eye some time back. They said toddlers have a really tough time coming to terms with not always getting what they want by crying anymore. They feel hurt and abandoned and to them it is like suddenly they are not loved anymore in the same way. They are heartbroken. I think the possibility exists that God created for himself the perfect puzzle in his design of mankind and the gift of free will. I do not personally know how else to reconcile some of the things he has done. God grows and matures and had fits of rage that he later regretted and has since changed his pact with man.

@stevesmith7843

11 ай бұрын

@@avery1234530 i definitely wouldn't liken God to a toddler..... your premise is fundamentally flawed. You ask why did God create imperfect humans that are disobedient and disappointing? he created creatures which had FREE WILL, it would be THEIR OWN choice whether to obey, this the Lord has no control over, while he can certainly INCENTIVIZE, ultimately one may choose to go to tarshish instead of ninevah..... i think that the Lord in his greatness knows every single possibility and outcome of everything ever, even when it comes to those who have free will, so lets say for example there was a 70-30 chance that adam and eve would reject satans temptation in the garden, the Lord allowed that dice to be rolled, and was fully prepared for the eventuality of it going either way, and was likely prepared for it before even satan knew he would tempt them..... You speak of his rage towards men and say they're the actions of a toddler, except they aren't. They're the actions of an adult, and an authority, for a toddler doesn't understand enough to make a legitimate decision, and judgement, where an adult weighs the circumstances, and makes a decision. a toddler could throw a tantrum about arbitrary things, however God doesn't do that, he has a righteous wrath when it comes to people being disobedient to his commandments, no different to a master to his slave, and we're all his slaves, made by him, for his purposes, like the rest of creation, he OWNS us outright...... God doesn't need to grow or mature, he is who he is, and his ways aren't our ways..... for who understands more of what's truly in a mans heart, the man? or God who created him, and sees the things of his heart that the man won't even aknowledge? while the Lord seemingly experiences all the emotions that we can being made in his image, he is infinitely more in touch with the realities of the world that he's created than any man can or will ever be, for he is its creator, to liken him to a toddler is a disgusting sentiment, and it shows no love nor understanding nor reverence nor fear of the Lord thy God, in truth brother it shows you haven't begun to understand a thing about him, and you believe the judgement of mere men, who only see 1% of visible light, to be GREATER and MORE AUTHORITATIVE than the creator of the entire universe, including man, who was responsible for the very foundation of the fabric of reality being laid....... it's a bizarre position to have, yet it isn't uncommon with men, for their pride is great, and their understanding little...... I hope one day you give him the reverence and fear due unto him. God bless and keep you.

@avery1234530

11 ай бұрын

@@stevesmith7843 if God knows every outcome regardless of free will then he would have known long before the creation of Adam and Eve that they would fall. There would be no surprises whatsoever.

@stevesmith7843

11 ай бұрын

@@avery1234530 sure, that's absolutely a possibility, it doesn't change that adam and eve had free will to decide what to do, God may KNOW what they will do, he may know what it's likely they'll do, and he may know every single possibility and outcome of every possible action that they might do and prepare accordingly...... we don't fully know to what extent Gods knowledge operates, or exactly how it does.... but then again, God likely exists out of what we call time, so if that is the case, then it's likely that he's already seen the results of our free will decisions beforehand, that doesn't however change his natural reactions to them in the present, and why would it? if a certain action inspires a certain reaction, it's going to be the same whether you knew it would happen or not, it doesn't necessarily change your reaction, just because you knew it would happen. For example, if you knew your wife was going to cheat on you, it's highly likely you'd still be angry about it when it happens......

He’s not different.

the video doesnt rly answere the question and just says "no he isnt different", listing quotes without giving examples

Yes Jesus Christ is God Emmanuel with us it's at the beginning of Matthew to birth of Christ the scripture where it says God made man a little more than angels he was not speaking about Jesus people need to get the facts straight from the Bible research the scriptures instead of quoting things that they think it says just that it's like lying on God and they can lose their soul for lying on God like this

They are not the same opposition Read it from a jew scripture. Christians chaged words to fit jesus in the OT

Sorry I'm still convinced that the two are different.

@abbaszahabi2917

Жыл бұрын

there was only two trees in there one was evil and one life they eat from the evil and became like god.

@shaunigothictv1003

Жыл бұрын

Agreed Wayne.

the demiurge

I just have a curious question: So, in the Old testament there was no free will? Because if they were killed because they wanted to adore other gods, then there wasn't really a choice.

@gleam7138

Жыл бұрын

The choice was there but there were consequences, just like with every choice we have. God bless ✝️🫶

@stevesmith7843

11 ай бұрын

i don't understand how that means there's no free will..... they made a choice to worship other Gods, God killed them for it..... how was there no choice?

@kns5700

6 ай бұрын

We have laws, you can choose to break the laws, but there are consequences... you still have free will. The problem is that people want to do whatever they want without repercussions.

@michaelbradley7621

6 ай бұрын

Liberal logic be like:

The reason is that Yehweh the God of old testament is not the Father of Jesus Christ. 2nd thing Jesus is not son of God but one of the Angels of God who incarnated as human and performed his duties and left the world .

@denischiorean3147

Жыл бұрын

Can you shut up already? Lol

Jesus is the true image of the "One True God." Have you ever heard about Jesus killed a person? The answer is No. Jesus revealed that the Old Testament God was the Devil. Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and have come from God, for I have not even come on My own initiative, but He sent Me. Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you cannot hear My word. You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me. Which one of you convicts Me of sin? If I speak truth, why do you not believe Me? He who is of God hears the words of God; for this reason you do not hear them, because you are not of God.” -John 8:42-47 (NASB) Only the Devil has the power of death. Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, and might free those who through fear of death were subject to slavery all their lives. For assuredly He does not give help to angels, but He gives help to the descendant of Abraham. -Hebrews 2:14-16 (NASB)

@SalsaSippin_

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. It's amazes me that Christians are not reading their Bibles.

Testaments are different because it's a DIFFERENT GODS in both. Yahve is an old mythological hod of ztorm and war. Jesus is the son of the invisible God.

It's quite clear that both gods are different. You can't fit a square peg in a round hole. Realising that both gods are different also explains why the Jews don't recognise Jesus. Both the god of the old and new testament myths cannot be the same.

@jesusisking5209

2 жыл бұрын

It’s clear that they are the same God in Genesis. They match perfectly. Foreshadowing and prophesying Jesus’ death on the cross. And showing the Trinity throughout the Old and New Testament. Read Isaiah 53 That prophesies Jesus Christ dying on the cross. That’s Old Testament. Read Genesis 1:26-1:27 that show’s the Trinity in the first chapter of the bible. Genesis 22 foreshadows Jesus’ death. Using Issac and Abraham. But Again For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 1 Corinthians 1:18 And there is many more instances. The whole bible is about how God redeems his people. And how does he redeem his people through his beloved Son the Lamb of God who bore the sins of the World. So that those who have faith would be saved. But those who reject it stand condemned. And will get the wrath that all humans deserve.

@abbaszahabi2917

2 жыл бұрын

actualy jesus came to show to god that you must love and be kind and dont kill even in your own way.and teaching to god that you have so wrong all the time.

@matthewbrown9029

2 жыл бұрын

@@abbaszahabi2917 Jesus could not teach the Father anything. That's assuming the Father lacks knowledge. Jesus *is* God.

@closrod335

2 жыл бұрын

@@abbaszahabi2917 actually, Jesus came to earth to die for our sins .. he was the ultimate sacrifice.. in the Old Testament, GOD required a sacrifice in order to cover the sin of the person … Jesus came to us as a humble king to sacrifice his life for ours, but one day he will return not as a sacrifice but as a judge .. in other words, he is still the same GOD as he was before and he will always be the same. Jesus and “ GOD “ are the same GOD but different personalities.. like a triangle, 1 triangle but 3 corners( but still the same triangle.

@abbaszahabi2917

2 жыл бұрын

@@closrod335 jesus came for washing away our sins.right.but jesus cant be the god of old testament

The One Only True The Most High and Almighty God (Old Testament) created Jesus (New Testament) lower than the angels (Heb 2:7).

The answer as to why God is different in the Old Testament (Jewish Torah) compared to the New Testament (Good News of Christ) is self-evident if you read Scripture: No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known. John 1:18 39 They (The Jews) answered him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do what Abraham did, 40 but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth which I heard from God; this is not what Abraham did. 41 You do what your father did.” They said to him, “We were not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.” 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I proceeded and came forth from God; I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. 43 Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. John 8:39-44 54 Jesus answered the Jews, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing; it is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say that he is your God. 55 But you have not known him; I know him. If I said, I do not know him, I should be a liar like you; but I do know him and I keep his word. John 8:54-55 4 Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God. 2 Corinthians 4:4 13 This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, 14 instead of giving heed to Jewish myths or to commands of men who reject the truth. Titus 1:13-14 Jesus comes from the Father, the God of Truth, Love, Forgiveness. The Jewish Old Testament refers to YHWH Elohim.

@marceld8961

Жыл бұрын

Who is YWHW Elohim?

@LNR65

Жыл бұрын

@@marceld8961 Jesus Christ is God. There is one God and only one God. Jesus Christ is the God of the Old Testament and God of the New Testament. The mystery of YHWH is revealed in Jesus Christ. Those who continue to worship YHWH, “Yaweh”, Elohim, etc. and reject Jesus (modern day Jews, many modern Christians) are worshipping the Law of Moses without Jesus which is the curse, death, Satan. 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. Galatians 3:10 9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Revelation 3:9

@marceld8961

Жыл бұрын

@@LNR65 I know Jesus is God. I’m saying though why is Yahweh in Hosea said I will be like a lion to them, like a leopard I will lurk by the path. Like a bear rubbed off her claws, I will attack them and rip them open, like a lion I will devour them-a wild animal I will rip them apart. The Lion, leopard, and bear is the exact description of the beast in Revelation 13-1.

@LNR65

Жыл бұрын

@@marceld8961 because it will be the Jews and false Christians who usher in the antichrist/beast. It will be a false Christianity that brings the world to destruction. It will “look like a lamb, but speak like a dragon” (Revelation 13:11). It will be in the image of a false creator god, it will be the Law of Moses with the antichrist instead of Jesus Christ. In the Gnostic scriptures he is referred to as the Yaltaboath, specifically in the apocryphal book the Apocryphon of John. He is often misinterpreted as being God of the Old Testament, and the “creator” but in fact he is the dragon (Revelation 12) who is a false creator worshipped by the Jews and false Christians at the end times.

@marceld8961

Жыл бұрын

@@LNR65 ok yes exactly where I’m trying to get at Yahweh is not the Father of Jesus, but Yahweh is the beast. Jesus never called the Father Yahweh. Correct me if I’m wrong please again. I’m humbling myself and open just trying to understand.

The God of Moses and the Old testament was vengeful, wrathful, jealous, and angry. The God of Jesus and the New testament is love, joy, peace, patient, kind, good, faithful, merciful and gentle. My question is: When did they change. We don't see Jesus acting the same way the Old testament God acted towards His people. If Jesus and the old testament God are the same God they should act the same. When did they change? I've been trying to find the answer for years. Chritians don't have an answer.

@shaunigothictv1003

Жыл бұрын

Excellent analysis Merrell.

@26RealKutVoodooThoatZoe26

Жыл бұрын

I left once i opened up Pandora’s box

@asdfg1346on

Жыл бұрын

God's ego death theory

@shaunigothictv1003

Жыл бұрын

@@asdfg1346on Facts!

@LAURA093058

Жыл бұрын

I'm a Christian. I'm not deaf, dumb and blind. OT God is not the same as Jesus. Jesus is the word. Not some man-made history book.

Jesus is God . When you speak of God are you not also speaking about Jesus ?

@matthewbrown9029

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, he recognizes the trinity. "God" includes the whole trinity

@DjMakinetor

2 жыл бұрын

False God Jesus died, and the true God does not die, because he is constantly alive. No sinner has ever seen the true God.

@matthewbrown9029

2 жыл бұрын

@@DjMakinetor was Moses a sinner? Did Elijah ever sin?

@26RealKutVoodooThoatZoe26

Жыл бұрын

😅😂pfffft lmaoooo

There is a god Jesus was dealing with whom was also in the old testament. The god who gives and takes away kingdoms to whomever he chooses. A god who gives snakes to children who asked for food. A god who commanded people to swear. A good who commanded an eye for an eye, sent peoples to bash babies on the rocks, a god who curses people with suffering and death. A god who despises children, who hates the sick, and constantly tries to prove himself better, greater, a proud god. A god who came after Jesus and abandoned Him who has fulfilled the law. This god is not the Father whom Jesus spoke about. This god said his laws(torah) will be in effect forever, of which Jesus nailed to the cross.

@dusansalat9200

2 жыл бұрын

Y O U S A Y W E L L . . . G O D N E V E R C O M M A N D E D T O P U N I S H W I T H D E A T H for some offenses (for example, stoning for adultery or for gathering wood on the Sabbath) and he never preached to carry out genocide on nations (even if they were bad). The Lord Jesus said: "I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now... But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth..." (John 16:12-13) And he also said: "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to." (Matthew 23:13) After all, God said in the 5th commandment "Thou shalt not kill!" - Who do you think said you will "kill" or "stone" or "use a sword to destroy everything that breathes (over everything that lives)"? Well - it certainly wasn't God - and who?...

the only worthy of worship is GOD of jesus and moses and abraham they were all prophets ... sent down for every nation and the last messenger was prophet muhammad he was sent down for whole humanity not for just one nation .

@BadrMoshaya

Жыл бұрын

True

This is simple: Old Testament God = Satan/Lucifer (hint: still in charge…) New Testament God = The TRUE God (who actually resides in us) - once we wake up and realize WHO/WHAT we are, and the power that we possess then we will be fine. 🙏🏾💕 - TIME TO WAKE UP…

@DjMakinetor

2 жыл бұрын

So Jesus is Satan because he created Adam and Eve in the Old Testament? and Satan sent a false Jesus into the world? (John 3:16)

@siegniteyt1096

Жыл бұрын

Lucifer is not Satan. Please do your research. Lucifer is Lightbringer in Latin.

@Iskibidi145

Жыл бұрын

@@siegniteyt1096 They are the same try translating Lucifer in tagalog you will see “Satanas” which means satan.

Because the New Testament is false, based on Greek and Roman mythology. That’s why they dont match.

@jesusisking5209

2 жыл бұрын

It’s clear that they are the same God in Genesis. They match perfectly. Foreshadowing and prophesying Jesus’ death on the cross. And showing the Trinity throughout the Old and New Testament. Read Isaiah 53 That prophesies Jesus Christ dying on the cross. That’s Old Testament. Read Genesis 1:26-1:27 that show’s the Trinity in the first chapter of the bible. Genesis 22 foreshadows Jesus’ death. Using Issac and Abraham. But Again For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 1 Corinthians 1:18 And there is many more instances. The whole bible is about how God redeems his people. And how does he redeem his people through his beloved Son the Lamb of God who bore the sins of the World. So that those who have faith would be saved. But those who reject it stand condemned. And will get the wrath that all humans deserve.

@brittanyhayes1043

2 жыл бұрын

They are not based on Greek or Roman mythology.

@josephpack7315

2 жыл бұрын

@@brittanyhayes1043 they are though. I dare you to find a Greek or Roman myth that predates Christianity that DOESN’T mention a god mating with a human woman and producing a man-god, or son of a god.

@brittanyhayes1043

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephpack7315 They are not.

@brittanyhayes1043

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephpack7315 The Old Testament prophesied a Messaish to be born of a Virgin. A Vigin birth means no penatration.

How do educated people put any validity into this nonsense. Grow up

@danielplaya4211

Жыл бұрын

Cope