What do you think of these 2 movies?

@ARK-rk8wy

23 күн бұрын

Why does it say that this was 7 hours ago? lol

@coachcherokee1488

23 күн бұрын

Haven’t seen inside Out 2 yet but turning red is the worst Pixar movie for me, Pixar was drunk when they made it. Edit: IS2 was simply perfection better the first one and the second best Pixar movie after Walle. Turning Red is still garbage.

@ARK-rk8wy

23 күн бұрын

@@coachcherokee1488 fr

@Enchanted___

23 күн бұрын

@@ARK-rk8wywhen I uploaded it to KZread

@Voxorius

21 күн бұрын

As I’m writing this, you have exactly 811,811 total views. Not important, just something cool I noticed. Nice job, you’re going to get really successful on KZread, I know it.

I have to disagree with you on Turning Red. Mei's Red Panda is partially about puberty yes, but the bigger aspect of it is more a sense of self and all the more wild and "untamed" parts of her personality. Her rage, her attraction to boys, her sadness, her fears, all of that culminates into her panda. Where the puberty comes in is how alot of young people, especially young girls, can feel like a big, gross monster during puberty with things like periods, body hair, body odor, and the like as things change. The reason why it only happens to Mei is solely because she's the main character, but I think you're being a bit unfair to Turning Red in your interpretation of the movie. The story tackles puberty yes, but the main arc revolves around Mei growing up to be a more flawed and independent person outside of her mother's wishes, and the struggle that can come with that.

@meta5175

5 күн бұрын

Yeah my thought too, I never related the panda to puberty when I saw it, and the period scenes are just jokes, meaning how the mom embarrasses her at school (not period shame but like teenager embarrassment) and also it's really relatable for ppl with Asian background and the family relationships etc.

@shineyydesigns7696

5 күн бұрын

@@meta5175 Exactly. It also bugged me that he acts like Mei didnt try to hide the panda, she absolutely did. She even wore a beanie and constantly tried to not transform the day after she discovered it. The time she transformed and ran out was because she was extremely stressed, and the Panda shows up WHEN she is stressed out

@combim1449

3 күн бұрын

Thank you, precisely what I was thinking

@suzanneclark7706

Күн бұрын

Honestly, that explains a lot!

@sallyparty1978

2 сағат бұрын

Exactly what I thought

I think turning red covered the relationship between Mei and her mom instead, and maybe how culture and family traditions feel pressuring on a child and how they mature :)

Turning Red isn't about puberty, not really. It's about a very specific time in recent history, and a very specific culture and yes very specific experience and most of all, about the challenges that occur negotiating between the current western culture and the eastern culture that came before. Puberty and menstruation isn't the point. That's part of the joke; she's not having her period, and likely won't for a year or two yet. But she is growing up and starting to separate from her parents, from being the perfect daughter, starting to want things that her mother doesn't want...like going to a concert with her friends. Not everyone comes from an immigrant family; but many more come from families where they as individuals don't and/or stop fitting in. The red panda makes perfect sense as a guardian or totem animal, because it is a lot more active even aggressive, compared to the Giant Panda. The family guardian spirit is able to protect against violent forces, but in a western civilization, allowing the red panda out would be seen as a disaster, alienating the dominant culture, and taking away from image of the model minority. So, trapping the panda is a way of fitting in and not being outcast, both within the new culture and being obedient towards the elders who know best. We don't know specifically what compromises that Grandma needed to make, but as each daughter came of age, the panda was contained, for the good of the family. Then Mei's mom wanted to get married to a good man who wasn't good enough...and Mom's panda broke loose, literally villain scarring her mother for life. Mom gets her way, but the panda is imprisoned. So now, Mom is absolutely determined to have her baby tow the line...no matter that her entire history teaches the opposite! Why I say this isn't a puberty story, is that coming of age tales normally don't go into those physical and emotional changes, but they do involve separating from family and the old ways, and sometimes making your way back to family, but on one's own terms. Because it was different and yes, very specific to people and a demographic and even a country (can you think of any recent story that is even tangentially about Canada?) that doesn't get told much or often, the Chinese-Canadian director created a fantasy that harkened back to her growing up and apart from her family. As half-Chinese myself, I related to this film, but I didn't love it, in fact I was angrily enjoying it the entire time, until Mei was able to get Mom to reconcile to her past and her mother, then I could let some of the anger go too. That's great movie making. I do see your point that Riley's life is more accessible to a wider audience, but that doesn't mean it's not just as important to tell tales from other points of view, because if you give it a chance, it may speak to you too.

@TrippyTooni

5 күн бұрын

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes (above is my reaction to pretty much every point the further i scrolled) It’s very difficult as a child of a person raised so conservatively in her home country. moving to canada, shes changed enough to be considered progressive in korea, but still not much so here. clashing with her beliefs is still incredibly difficult and i’m tired of having to hide. with my asian friends and coworkers this is (or was, after they moved away) a nearly universal experience. all i can do is sigh when i hear reviews from people that didnt live through experiences like this say things that prove they missed the point to any degree. when people say stuff like “why is mei-lings mom so unrealistically insane” i immediately lose respect in the review, they havent gone as far as to understand our side of the world and will continue to view us and our living situations as miniscule.

@marieroberts5664

5 күн бұрын

@@TrippyTooni you should see Elemental if you haven't already...that movie broke me in the best way, so much of my family's experiences in that film, and I know that my husband wouldn't understand it, or why it moved me so, I haven't tried to even watch it with him, but by myself I've seen it four times (I hate streaming but I love streaming, if you get what I mean).

@TrippyTooni

5 күн бұрын

@@marieroberts5664it really does give me a lot to think about with that whole message of sacrifice and family in that regard.. ive never really tried to let myself think too hard about it, the message is powerful enough that i don’t think i can mentally prepare myself enough to reflect on it, that’s just how well they told that part of the story.

Every time I hear someone talk badly about Turning Red, it's always about how the metaphor for puberty doesn't work. Don't get me wrong, I hate the movie for other reasons, but they make it very clear that the red panda represents the parts of ourselves that we don't like, might be ashamed of, or in general feel like we need to hide. It's hard for me to believe that it has anything to do with periods, because the mom makes it very clear that periods and the red panda are two separate things. Why would the movie separate those things purposely if one were meant to represent the other? The message was clearly "You should accept all parts of yourself" and NOT "puberty is messy". I do think "You should accept all parts of yourself" is also the message of Inside Out 2, and I do think Inside Out 2 does it better, but I'd love to someday hear a genuine review of Turning Red WITHOUT shoving metaphors into the red panda.

@DealaBreaka

16 сағат бұрын

Yeah I get that but the move does suck lol

Inside Out 2 is truly the Best Sequel Pixar has made in quite a few years

in some Crazy ways Inside Out 2 handled puberty way more then Turning Red

i feel like the only thing i really appreciated and related to from inside out 2 was probably the fact that they annotated the existence of Canada/Toronto and made it so for once a movie didn't take place in the us , I felt really appreciated since I'm from Canada living near Toronto. and the second thing I related to was mai at the beginning of the movie being an overachiever and getting good grades. with is what I really care about a lot but I hate how they kind of made it so that she slowly stoped caring about her grades. meanwhile inside out to I really connected with Riely over her feelings and her desire to just be good for others or just be good enough fro myself. and also the fact that she had to move somewhere new where she didn't know anyone plot of the first movie.

Other people have said it, but Turning Red isn't a metaphor for periods. The scene where Ming assumes that Mei is talking about her period when she describes herself as a "big red monster" is supposed to be a joke about Ming misinterpreting her. There's even a later scene where Ming realises what Mei really meant, and the solutions Ming gives to the red panda are different from the advice she gives about periods. Maybe this part being easily misinterpreted means that the writing on the movie wasn't that good or was muddled, especially since the red panda wasn't always going to be exclusive to women in the family. Anyways, I agree that the red panda metaphor is definitely muddled. It's supposed to be something that all adolescents get but choose to get rid of by the time that they're adults(like strong emotions or cringiness), but the panda being sealed isn't permanent. Or how Mei transforms into this big red panda, and doing it too much might make her too strong(i.e. rebellion, strong emotions) except when she selects parts of her body to transform instead of the full red panda.

Watching Inside Out 2 was an emotional experience for me and the most relatable movie. It depicted anxiety and other emotions so accurately, especially in the context of going through puberty and dealing with new emotions. One of the aspects I related to most was the fear of rejection or standing out. I was so desperate to be accepted by the people around me and was afraid of being cast away or forgotten. The movie perfectly captures these feelings, showing how overwhelming and isolating they can be. It also reminded me that these emotions are a natural part of growing up, and it's okay to feel them. I don't know if I'm the only one but Inside Out 2 cured my problems with anxiety because after watching the movie I feel less anxious around people, I can freely enjoy life and feel much safer dealing with people. Note: I don't care what anyone says, I'm putting this movie number 1 on my favorite movie list :)

@stansmith2188

12 күн бұрын

My thoughts and experiences are 100% identical, this movie is great for anyone who is naturally anxious

@DreamyyArt

7 күн бұрын

after this movie, I've been getting kinda anxious because family things, almost spilling drinks on my laptop twice, and etc. but I actually recognized the anxious thought process and grounded myself. Dang this movie got me places, I can spot my overthinking and calm myself 😭

@Big_Dai

3 күн бұрын

Okay..? Movie isn't really that good. You probably are just taking the few scenes that can be applied to you, and nothing else.. just because you felt seen. Not because the movie actually tells a "daring story" (sarcasm) that appeals to absolutely everyone.

@rockenlouis

3 күн бұрын

@@Big_Dai ????? Dude what are you on about??? Are you those types of people who bring up fights in comment sections??? 😭

Inside out 2 is what Turning Red should’ve been. A heartfelt movie about puberty and anxiety.

@arnowisp6244

20 күн бұрын

Not an Elaborate "You are wrong Mom."

@0deadx21

19 күн бұрын

_Turning Red_ is about the physical stuff. The character wasn't even in puberty, so that's a stupid comparison.

@Mybabyonthetrees

8 күн бұрын

@@0deadx21yep. I think people confused period with puberty. It was about her relationship with her mother and her just.. being a kid, Jesus Christ. It’s a perfect representation of how children were meant to act and not how adultified people made them feel or act,

@giggitymaster8799

Күн бұрын

Turning red was embarassing. Everything about that movie was painful to watch

@0deadx21

Күн бұрын

@@giggitymaster8799 Typical idiotic response about a movie depicting tween girls experience.

I thought that both movies were great in their own right. For me, I really liked the inspiration that Turning Red took from anime for one. And I'm not really that into any anime show, rather I find the style aestetically pleasing. I also think there are plenty of relatable elements in Turning Red that don't have anything to do with periods: the helicopter parenting, the high expectations placed on a child by their parent(s), the mom overreacting and thinking it necessary to create a huge spectacle over certain matters causing her daughter a lot of humiliation, Mei just wanting to have an experience with friends that is almost deemed a rite of passage, the list goes on. The fact that Turning Red was a passion project by the director makes it that much better for me. Now, I don't need to say much about Inside Out 2 other than I really liked the movie, but my only concern is that Disney/Pixar will take some of the wrong lessons from it and discourage people developing original ideas for the studio in favor of milking old franchises all to seem more relatable. Just a thought I had.

@sophieheid4464

8 күн бұрын

Some of the deleted scenes are so good! If they want to milk every ip they own, then Turning Red would be perfect as a show!

@TYsdrawkcaB

8 күн бұрын

turning red i found was fantastic so thanks for that

from what I've seen from Turning Red Explained by an Asian and me personally being Chinese, I'd say its more of the Asian teenage experience and rather underated according to standards from an Asian view

@Enchanted___

19 күн бұрын

I’d actually be curious what you think if you’d watch the movie

you know what the discussion turning red reminds me of? The Ghost and Molly McGee, and they also handle it like how Inside out 2 did, though in a different direction.

**INSIDE OUT 2 SPOILERS** I found Inside Out 2 to be the most relatable movie I have ever seen. First of all, essentially all of Riley’s secrets I related to. I also recently moved and while I know that’s really the whole point of the first movie, this movie covered the friend aspect of moving for me. When I experienced puberty, I felt like I had lost my whole Sense of Self too. I felt like a totally different person before and after puberty. I also just discovered your channel and not only did you cover something that I thought about once I realized the similarities between Inside Out 2 and Turning Red, but I’m also not the last person on Earth still playing Cuphead! Yay!

@Enchanted___

11 күн бұрын

I love Cuphead so much, also well written comment I’m happy you found me!

Turning red never failed its such a eye opening movie its beautifully done

Honestly my biggest problem with this video is as someone who came for inside out 2 review... the fact barly half was on inside out 2 (and honestly feels more like a turning red review) is very disappointing but at least we still have the villan reviews

I actually don't think it looks bad

16:36 Just want to quibble with the box office returns. That's mostly all money from outside the USA, and it's money from when the movies were released in 2021 and 2022. And Turning Red's total is lower because more countries had Disney+ when it was released.

@Enchanted___

19 күн бұрын

Alright that’s interesting because I always thought the Turning Red box office seemed a bit too low

@austinpapageorge7210

19 күн бұрын

@@Enchanted___ Also Luca had a Russian and a Chinese release date but Turning Red was never officially released in Russia and China.

@meta5175

5 күн бұрын

@@Enchanted___ Also it would've hit in China but China doesn't even have Disney+ and it's not in cinima so the whole Chinese market basically has no official way to watch it

Good Review,i liked the editing,one point you forgot to mention is that the pand metaphore is just bad and not well thought of in other ways,like,may being able to just straight up banish her "curse" which is not really something you can just to IRL,as well it being EXCLUSIVE to her and her family,as well as the "it's an outdated power from the past of the family"thing making no sense when you think about it as a parallel to menstruation,which is the opposite from inside out,which reconstectualizes EVERY little thing about your brain. train thought is literally a train in your head,your personality is determined by your isles,memories from different days are sent out of the headquarters into the "long term" and such others... honestly i would have like to watch a movie about the original red panda from the tapestry intead of this.

To Me, Turning Red doesn't deserve that much hate. Let's not forget the film scheduled to be shown in theaters before eventually becoming a Disney + exclusive without a premiere access fee. And judging by the lack of advertising I'm know Disney was making sure that Everyone forgets the movie ever existed.

Bro this is so underrated

@Enchanted___

19 күн бұрын

Thank you, I worked really hard on this

@Mr.Blue-223

19 күн бұрын

@@Enchanted___ I gave you a sub

@Enchanted___

19 күн бұрын

@@Mr.Blue-223 thank you :)

As a teenage not girl, I was also cringing and squirming during the movie because Riley was so relatable.

6:02 psychologically emotions are on the fritz during puberty because the area of the brain that mainly controls emotions develops last. So your brain is unable to even understand whats happening since mentally you haven't developed yet.

I think the main thing everyone gets confused about why 'Turning Red' feels so alienating is because it's not a movie you can just watch in public and not have any stares from anyone, 'Inside Out 2' is. Think about it, is this a film you can watch in a crowd of people and not feel weird about it? You want those eyes on the film you are watching, not at you.

@shineyydesigns7696

5 күн бұрын

I mean yeah, I can. Nothing in Turning Red is exceptionally bad or PG. The worst you could argue is Mei shaking her butt at her mom but thats solely for comedy and plenty of kids movies make butt jokes.

@MATAX5

5 күн бұрын

@@shineyydesigns7696 I’m sorry but are you a grown man?

@shineyydesigns7696

5 күн бұрын

@@MATAX5 And what about that would change anything? Adults have been watching animated kids movies since they've come out

@MATAX5

5 күн бұрын

@@shineyydesigns7696 My boi, you are simply apathetic to the world around you if you could watch this film surrounding by strangers.

@shineyydesigns7696

5 күн бұрын

@@MATAX5 Ok explain to me what exactly in this movie is so inappopriate. Give me a scene

I agree with most of what you said, but I think the puberty thing was just showing the audience that Mei is growing up (shocker). I think more than anything the Panda doesn’t represent puberty (I think it is a symptom tho) the panda represents generational trauma. I also read somewhere that the panda could also represent the disconnect between parent and child but I personally don’t believe that one. Correct me if I’m wrong, I seriously don’t think turning red was about puberty. The movie touched on it and everyone ran with that idea.

@meta5175

5 күн бұрын

I think the panda is more like the connection between parent and child, like the child the parents once were but just forgot when they grew up and/or repressed by their parents

I absolutely agree that the way puberty is portrayed in Inside Out 2 is so accurate and relatable. At many points I could see myself in Riley’s shoes, almost tearing up at those points (and I did tear up at the end). By leaving out periods and making it the basis of puberty, it makes it relatable to females as well as males like myself, which I think we all can agree was the best decision they made for this movie.

If Turning Red was more about Mei and her family dynamics while also trying to have fun with her friends would’ve been a better movie. The panda and period stuff really didn’t have to be there. And as some said it could’ve just been added so they could sell plushies of the panda. Because my favorite part was the stuff about Ming and how she attacked her mom.

y'all act like two legends can't coexist

@robloxwithmax2178

9 сағат бұрын

Bro what is you profile pic 😂

Puberty inside out two

Both are great. I like them both for different reasons. Mei Mei's story is about over coming generational trauma, inside out 2 is about puberty. Both were very relatable and my female friends like them. But I noticed my brother's didn't get the story either but I get that they weren't the target audience.

0:53 i remembered that fake trailer before the actual inside out 2

turning red is literally the movie embodiment of being a cringy teenage girl. if you haven't experienced it, it won't click with you lmao. its an amazing movie if you ask me, and really relatable too.

@14:12 as a Gen Z I would like to say that Skibidi Toilet is solely Gen Alpha thank you very much

@theknightwithabadpictotall7639

3 күн бұрын

As another gen Z I would like to say don't knock it until you've tried it

Another banger from you. Really great video.

I feel like they are setting up another movie a bit too much with the whole character of Nostalgia and the whole “dark secret” thing. so hopefully the next one is good?

@Peanut_Flailer

7 күн бұрын

That is true, both of these characters had like a total of 1 minute of screen time and they weren’t really important to the plot of the film, I felt that same way with ennui as well, but at least she did slightly better.

Before inside out 2 my favorite movie of the year was kung fu panda 2 still is but inside out 2 is my fav that came out this year!

12:17 I almost thought her case said “this girl loves meth”

Honestly i think target audiences aren't bad because lots of movies tried to appeal to everyone and were bad (idk if this counts but the Disney star wars movies were criticized for trying to apeal to everyand it turned out really bad as so many people hated it) one KZreadr summed it up best "When you try to make everyone happy you end up making no one happy"

4:12

I agree with the thesis, but the period rant sort of dragged, the point about having an audience especially confused me so looking forward to your other video!

9:24 same

3:27 YOU PLAY CUPHEAD OH MAN I LIKE YOU IVE S RANKED ALL THE BOSSE

I feel as a Turning Red fan...I personally enjoyed the movie but I can understand people may not like Turning Red for personal reasons and reasonable points. Turning Red is for girls mostly and also Asian families or people with family issues. If you cannot get used to Turning Red's comedy, the drama and how the animation is like I understand that. I am not a Chinese American, but I can relate to Mei Mei. I could understand the Red Panda feels ridiculous, but I could see that as a symbolism with Mei growing up and puberty. But if you didn't face generational trauma, girlhood or something like that then yes I feel Turning Red didn't do a great job with puberty. But I personally believe it did a great job with family issues and generational trauma than say Encanto. Mei acts like this becauss she has to deal with a well meaning yet controlling mother. And when her mother tries her best to help, Mei has to deal with the fact in order to enjoy life sometimes she just to do things HER way. That's the point of the Red Panda it's emotional baggage all Mei's family go through, so Mei accepts who she is. Though yes I can understand the period analogy wasn't explored well. In contrast, Inside Out 2 is for everyone. Puberty is complicated and Riley I enjoyed because she had agency. In the first movie she was just a placeholder for the emotions to dictate. But in Inside Out 2, she's struggling with the changes and stuff. Her friends are going to different schools, she's dealing with the fact hockey life isn't easy, and also dealing with puberty. I also believe the reason why we related to Riley is because she's down to earth in contrast to Mei. So in my eyes, I feel Riley did a great growing as a peraon. And thanks to the emotions and stuff I enjoyed how they realized Riley is herself. And that she shouldn't let go of both positive and negative.

Are you dense, both movies clearly have different themes of maturing, god this is just one of those "Turning Red Bad" videos. It's fine if you don't like turning red but this video is just plain bad faith media analysis

I love turning red

I'm a woman and I don't relate to Turning Red at all. The target audience is not even women. Maybe women who are very feminine and follow the standards. As a LGBT - also diagnosed with two mental disorders - who struggled a lot to fit in, I relate a lot more to Inside Out 2. It feels like something actually heavy and serious. You can face anxiety crisis even as an adult. It's totally different from that spoiled teenage girl drama we see in Turning Red like "oh no mama won't let me see the kpop hotties." That conflict isn't good enough to drive an entire movie. I wish they focused less on this "I'll use the red panda to get some money to see the boy band" thing and worked more on the bad family dynamics between May and her mother. Actually they should have discarded this panda concept. It's confusing, it's annoying and it doesn't work. It's just there to make children say "ownn the panda is so cute".

@Enchanted___

5 күн бұрын

Well I’m glad somebody understood this, some other person called me sexist for not liking the movie lmfao so thank you for actually listening to what I have to say!

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