Why Indonesia is pushing back against EU rules | DW News
The EU's law to ban deforestation from the supply chains of its companies is frustrating trade partners abroad. Just take Indonesia, which says the law is harming its small farmers. The spat comes as the two are thrashing out a free trade deal and the EU needs Indonesia’s supply of minerals for batteries and computer chips. So does the EU back down on its environmental principles or put at risk its relationship with Indonesia and potentially harm important industries? DW's Daniel Winter spoke with Indonesia’s ambassador to Germany, Arief Havas Oegroseno, asking him if they’re close to sealing a deal.
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EU: "We banned Indonesian palm oil because it is not environmentally friendly." Also EU: "We want Indonesian nickel, even though it is also not environmentally friendly."
@vegemarkr4582
Ай бұрын
European companies want the nickle*
@DNmyhusband
Ай бұрын
UE 😂😂😂😂😂
@myplaylist4959
Ай бұрын
Eu are clown 🤡🤡
@lembitu4104
Ай бұрын
Big difference with nickel and palms. Look at Borneo fools
@araara4746
Ай бұрын
@@lembitu4104 Right. Nickel mines are even more environmentally unfriendly than palm oil plantations.
Indonesia never banned Nickel export, the export ban was on raw Nickel ore, so if you need Nickel you have to process it in Indonesian soil. Simple as that.
@organizedchaos4559
Ай бұрын
What if they don’t want that. They want the raw nickel ore
@lilacer6841
Ай бұрын
@@organizedchaos4559so Indobesia will manufacture their own products
@jagodiving
Ай бұрын
@@organizedchaos4559they can buy those from another country, as simple as EU banned palm oil from indonesia.
@cungcung5042
Ай бұрын
@@organizedchaos4559Then you won't get it at all. The Chinese already setup processing companies in Indonesia. They have no problems with that. If the Chinese can do it, why can't the Europeans or American do it ?
@stefansb3802
Ай бұрын
@@organizedchaos4559 The EU can can go buy elsewhere. Who cares what they want.
EU: "We banned Russian gas and oil because they come from Russia." Also EU: "We buy Russian gas and oil through the 3rd parties although they still come from Russia." And directly as well.
@xakushonx8798
Ай бұрын
You are rigth on that one, but just because you do a fault it doesnt mean you have to do another, and the eu kinda has no choice than to buy oil from russia
@NessieNice
Ай бұрын
@@xakushonx8798 so... the ban is just a bluff.
@aodriseu
26 күн бұрын
No, we don't.
@suryakantibiswal
25 күн бұрын
@@xakushonx8798 when you have no choice you shouldn't have made those ridiculous sanctions drama 😂
@shaktimishra9710
23 күн бұрын
They buy oil from India and India but oil from Russia indirectly buying from Russia 💀
Indonesia is not a flawless country... of course we have our own problems and challenges. However, watching people like Mr. Arief Havas Oegroseno represent Indonesia with such a strong stance and confidence on global news makes me very proud to be an Indonesian. We need more people like him and furthermore we must protect our natural resources from modern "trade imperialism"
@yaoliang1580
27 күн бұрын
Like their US master, the EU isn't interested in protection of the environment but weaponising them to suit their own greed n selfish interests
@instantramen4588
19 күн бұрын
Betul 👏👏
@barrav3385
12 күн бұрын
Betul bang
@yaoliang1580
12 күн бұрын
@@FragLord if there's any, it certainly pales in comparison to the worst genocide n atrocities committed by the US led collective West. Take a look at your own mirror first before trying to criticise others
@123Ryanist
4 күн бұрын
I live in the EU and I agree with Indonesia! EU is a evil Union, that is just about political correctness and greed. EU doesn't listen or care about its citizens!
"Do you think European being a hypocrite? His answer was savage... " ABSOLUTELY"
@laosasean8482
Ай бұрын
And the cousin America, Australia and Canada.
@danawasiat1343
Ай бұрын
All the way..
@Disci_vation
Ай бұрын
“Yo jelas lah rek menungso iku ncen senengane ngono” jare bapae neng jero ati.
@evo3430en
Ай бұрын
Loh samean kok jowo jebul kene mas @@Disci_vation
@kuronasution
Ай бұрын
Hadir
Indonesia has the right to defend herself
@mitoroskokoros589
Ай бұрын
dude i am loving this one >=)
@Luluskuy
Ай бұрын
*himself
@knmaherijayatp8181
Ай бұрын
@@Luluskuy her. we indonesian called our country "ibu pertiwi", motherland in english.
@fbdpbackup
Ай бұрын
Defend yourself from what? Better protest your corruption first.
@bintiaisiah
Ай бұрын
tapi menggunakan her itu kalo anda belajar feminisme dan patriarkal berarti Indonesia dikatakan lemah . jadi netral untuk boleh juga mengatakan himself. atau themselves. bukan karena Indonesia menyebut diri mereka ibu pertiwi. karena selain Indonesia juga sering negara atau objek apapun itu kalau dalam sebuah isu kontroversial atau beda perspektif sering menggunakan herself.
Way to go Indonesia, all the support from Brazil on you fight against imperialism! 🇧🇷 I can't stand the Global North's hypocrisy, in the Brazil-EU negotiations it was the same - we should open our public auctions for European companies to enter freely, but EU wouldn't buy our commodities that would compete with their local markets alleging environmental reasons. The free market only exists for them to enter in the Global South, but there's always an excuse to avoid our companies there (TikTok was just the latest). It always reminds me of Ha-Joon Chang's Kicking Away the Ladder, how they consistently try to stop us from following the steps that led to their development. I loved when the ambassador called out the explicite imperialism, just like how Guyana's president recently responded to a BBC's interviewer attempt to lecture them on climate responsibilities. And I knew that Indonesia had a strong growth, but I wasn't aware it had been going high consistently for so many years, got really curious to learn more about Indonesia's modern history and the factors that allowed for such consistent growth (in Brazil for years our growth is compared to chickens' flight a small upwards curve which quickly comes back down haha).
@Jaygrind-vf8oz
Ай бұрын
Well said man, business is business it has to be profitable for both sides Glad to see Brazil join BRICS, our gov didn't have courage yet to do so!
@sygish
Ай бұрын
lol. the former “empire” of Brazil pretending to be a victim of colonial powers. If you’re descended from a european/asian/african country you’re a colonist.
@chaseonfroy
Ай бұрын
@@sygish reasons?
@thijmstickman8349
Ай бұрын
(The regulation) includes cattle, cocoa, coffee, oil palm, rubber, soya and wood. As regards the situation of forests within the Union, the State of Europe's Forests 2020 report states that, between 1990 and 2020, the area of forests in Europe has increased by 9 %, carbon stored in the biomass has grown by 50 % and wood supply has risen by 40 %. (segments from the EU law) From 2001 to 2023, Indonesia lost 30.8 Mha of tree cover, equivalent to a 19% decrease in tree cover since 2000, and 22.2 Gt of C0e emissions. (Global forest watch) I looked up the 2.2 Mha claim and only found sources verifying the EU laws claim. I guess the politican lied. l agree Indonesia has the right to only export processed Nickel, and the deforestation regulation may need to be amended to not disproportionately impact small farmers, but the EU has every right and reason to limit its import of products which cause deforestation.
@xakushonx8798
Ай бұрын
You really taking tiktok as an example, your companies are avoided if they dont follow the standarts.
Inilah kenapa pendidikan harus maju di Indonesia, terlihat dari jawaban Pak Arief Havas. 👍👍👍 God bless Indonesia 🙏🇮🇩
@jake-quaman
Ай бұрын
But indonesian teenager said kulia adalah pegangguran dengan gaya😅
@Iqbaludens
Ай бұрын
Lulusan Harvard gak kaleng-kaleng emang
@valerioharvey7289
22 күн бұрын
@@jake-quaman kalo kuliah ngasal, dan mirisnya banyak yang begitu
Indonesia didnt need EU to buy Indonesian Nickle.. we have Korean, Japanese, China, Canada, even Indonesia work with Australia for EV battery. those country are willing to work with Indonesia so that Indonesia can get Added value from Nickle. the issue is EU Forcing Indonesia to export raw Nickel to EU by attacking Indonesia in WTO... so EU need Indonesia raw nickel and Forcing Indonesia to export it RAW. exporting RAW will only benefit EU and Indonesia only become cheap labour miner..... Imperialsim mentality is strong with EU.
@nenasiek
Ай бұрын
How are we forcing u to sell to us? You gotta follow the rules of the WTO if youre in it, thats it.
@raquetdude
Ай бұрын
Is the EU bombing ethnic minorities within the EU? No. Is Indonesia yes. Are those ethnic minorities living on the same island where Indonesia has lots of minerals… yes. Indonesia is incredibly imperialistic
@user-ib9ky2jo9h
Ай бұрын
lol everyone’s at fault but you right? 😂
@ornachia2489
Ай бұрын
@@user-ib9ky2jo9h Yeah that basically European mentality during colonization
@avorfm1964
Ай бұрын
@@nenasiek Right, that is why other trade bloc options should be considered. Listening to those self proclaimed preachers of Europe sounds like the US defending Israel in Gaza.
"We don't want you to harm your environment by cutting forests but we want you to harm your environment by mining for us"
@laosasean8482
Ай бұрын
Western will never give up the racism and double standard.
@KissWantTo
Ай бұрын
True, Fact.
@noertri618
Ай бұрын
YES
@BlueAngel-ss8lu
Ай бұрын
who do you mean of "you" east or west or both ??
@christbenitez8797
Ай бұрын
Is the US is tired of Europe's bullsh
It’s good to see countries like Indonesia standing up to the EU (& hopefully the US). For over a century we in the West have been exploiting places like Indonesia & India to keep our people rich whilst holding down the development of these countries. If the EU don’t like Indonesian products/standards then I’m sure China will purchase it instead.
Fun fact. Palm oil can be processed into diesel, that is already sold cheaper in Indonesia and Malaysia. Without subsidies its sold the same price as regular diesel. One of the reason why west ban palm oil is to protect their oil industry. Literal gas growing on trees, too dangerous for their own economy.
@stmartinhk
Ай бұрын
Ridiculous. Palm oil CANNOT be processed into diesel.
@mcbchannel7173
Ай бұрын
the EU is getting crushed by their former colony of ASEAN countries. seems like the table has been turned upside down.
@Planeet-Long
Ай бұрын
This is because Western governments are captured by their own major companies through institutional lobbying.
@Bdbtg28691
Ай бұрын
The EU is making the transition to green energy, and typically import rather than export oil/gas. US, Russia and the Gulf states are the main players in the petro industry. It is the deforestation issue, same as with Brazil.
@michaeltagor4238
Ай бұрын
You ain't smart bro, not all things use diesel lol it has nothing to do with that
As a fine man once said, "Europes problems are the worlds problems, but the worlds problems are not Europes problems"
@jorsm.3893
Ай бұрын
You have an opinion of your own as well ? :) If the EU want to make import/export laws based on environmental grounds, than Indonesia or any other party has very little to say about that. If the EU later can no longer get the goods they need, because no trade partner can meet the requirements, they will certainly revise them.
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
Ай бұрын
@@jorsm.3893 When European and Americans concern about Environment, I cannot stop LOL. Thanks to petrodollar, there are 1.4 billion cars nowadays compared 200 million in 1970 when Petrodollar was signed in. If each ICE car passenger produce 192 gram CO2 and every car has 2 passenger, thus a day there will be 2x192x1.4 billion = 537 billion gram of CO2 that people breath in. That's only cars. To increase the sale in oil, USA and Europeans sell cheap cars, commercial jets, trains, plastics etc. Now Europeans are talking about environment. What a joke!
@jorsm.3893
Ай бұрын
@@MSDGroup-ez6zk The real joke is always referring to the past when people are trying to change. There is a vast difference in thinking between generations. I personally don't even own a car, even though I could get one. Calling out people on what previous generations accomplished serves pretty much nothing. Though I agree that the EU should stop getting itself into diplomatic "hot water" by commenting on domestic issues of non-EU countries, which products the EU does and does not allow to be brought in is the EU's issue.
@tezarmxgpique702
Ай бұрын
You wish
@RazorMouth
Ай бұрын
@@MSDGroup-ez6zk LOL, we didn't even know about the damage CO2 was doing until the last 20 years. Reality is we need to change our ways globally "NOW"
Indonesian President Jokowi said : Nickel is our nickel, it's ours from Indonesia, it's up to us what we want to do.
@jayjaywoodland
Ай бұрын
nations are sick of imported inflation again and again (because of U$$D Over-Printing), disrupting their economic growth... while us enjoy their spending spree without feeling guilty/shame for the world... in addition, nations are also de-risking their reserves from being looted/sanctioned by us. world-wide de-dollarization is inevitable and imminent, or is it?
@oemolokupano4512
Ай бұрын
No, Indonesia is a Colonial Power replacing the Dutch Colonial Power since 1950 (the establishment of the Unitary State which illegally destroyed the Federal state). All natural resources outside Java are economic theft by the Javanese Colonizer towards the oppressed nations like Maluku, Papua, Aceh and Borneo. Wake up people!
@blak_ket
Ай бұрын
@@jayjaywoodland I hope we go de-dollarization. The West want us to trust them with our money but when we're not doing what they want -even though we don't break any rules or committing any war-crime- they threaten us with embargo/sanction. They become an entity that we can't trust anymore.
@yezki8
Ай бұрын
@@jayjaywoodlandit is truly inevitable IF the FEDs dont stop printing
@atm5269
Ай бұрын
Let's cut ties with the EU, the UK, and the US.
Good for Indonesia. Tell em' hypocrites. Much love from 🇮🇳
@ilhamilham1167
22 күн бұрын
You people are the same
@m.akbarfajrian2656
13 күн бұрын
@@ilhamilham1167 huh? Apa masalahnya sama mereka, kocak.
@duovigintillongaming3779
9 күн бұрын
What can Indonesia do even. Indonesia can't force the EU to buy their palm oil and they don't have the leverage to sanction the EU lmao. You don't sanction the EU
@m.akbarfajrian2656
9 күн бұрын
@@duovigintillongaming3779 who's crying about raw nickle ban? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
We Indonesians consider Europe as a friend, but Europe does not consider us as a friend, so why should we be loyal to you.. Times have changed without Asia, Europe is nothing.. The wheel of the world is turning and you have to adapt, don't dwell on the past 😇
@stiegelzeine2186
Ай бұрын
It’s not Europeans, it’s capitalists but also we live in a global world, sure Europe is nothing without Asia and so is Asia without Europe, where do you think all the wafers come from? Without many European inventions we would still live in the Stone Age You obviously can’t be far superior to everyone else without colonizing and making others poor because that’s just how the system works
@niemand1072
Ай бұрын
Withouth europe indonesia would have never existed
@ScaroMK
Ай бұрын
@@niemand1072Didnt you read the comment? Dont dwell on the past
@kaboonali5466
Ай бұрын
@@niemand1072😂😂 i didn’t know Europeans had the power to create islands and sea and humans
@niemand1072
Ай бұрын
@@kaboonali5466 Withouth the dutch, there wouldn't be indonesia, instead there would be hunderds of kingdoms. Indonesia is big and powerfull because the dutch created it
Good to know ASEAN countries starting to assert themselves especially against powerful countries.
@SiamSentin3l
Ай бұрын
The EU isn't a powerful entity anymore 😂
@wilsontiu9158
Ай бұрын
Except for one whose citizens adore their colonizers.
@timawa22
Ай бұрын
@@wilsontiu9158 At same time other neighbor are in the pocket of china also.
@Wvk5zc
Ай бұрын
@@wilsontiu9158Singapore and filipino?
@nunyabiznes33
Ай бұрын
@@timawa22ASEAN is divided into 3 camps regarding China, hostile, ambivalent and friend for pay.
It's raw nickel export ban, not all kinds of nickel products. Indonesia welcomes other countries to invest in nickel downstreaming industries in Indonesia. The one making problem here is the EU, they don't want to invest in Indonesia but they want only nickel ores. When Indonesia only exported the ores, the value was around $1 billion. But after raw nickel export ban in effect and nickel products start being exported, the export value rose to $30 billions. The nickel industries also employ more than 100k people.
@hyy3657
Ай бұрын
that's how you protect your home environment at the first place! invest in local clean factory!
@4IZUKI
Ай бұрын
EU : that ore are mine 😂
@jayjaywoodland
Ай бұрын
nations are sick of imported inflation again and again (because of U$$D Over-Printing), disrupting their economic growth... while us enjoy their spending spree without feeling guilty/shame for the world... in addition, nations are also de-risking their reserves from being looted/sanctioned by us. world-wide de-dollarization is inevitable and imminent, or is it?
@machintrucGaming
Ай бұрын
@@jayjaywoodland Chineese Yuan sure do look like the world's future currency
@xakushonx8798
Ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
EU : hey we want to buy nickel from you but we want it cheap ID : but we don't want to sell it cheap, you have to built industries in our country EU : You can't do that ID : It's ours so we can do what we want EU : It's a crime if it's not cheap I mean this is ridiculous, are you buying or are you robbing?😂
@TheBikeOnTheMoon
Ай бұрын
I mean, it's typical colonism behavior from the EU, just like 100 year ago.
@KF-zb6gi
Ай бұрын
They still think it's 100 years ago when they can colonize anyone lol
@FragLord
Ай бұрын
@@TheBikeOnTheMoon Just like Indonesia colonizing Papua you mean
@TristanGhifaryFadhillahR-yj6uf
Ай бұрын
@@FragLord do you want me to bring all independent movement in europe?
@tseuren123
Ай бұрын
@@TristanGhifaryFadhillahR-yj6uf If you didn't kill, abuse and suppress them (and East Timorians etc) they wouldn't want to be independent, thats why Europe doesn't have this problem. seems pretty easy.
Always met him during Friday Prayer in Berlin, PROUD
@xikp270
Ай бұрын
How lucky, I want to meet him too
@firmansyahwibowo
28 күн бұрын
Alhamdulillah
@PutraRhm
19 күн бұрын
Lucu jga ya. mau posisi apa aja pasti ketemu klo waktunya sholat, gk ada tingkat kuasa dalam sana wowkwkkw
As a Canadian with no real dog in this fight, I must say I really like they way that he handled those questions. Yes we are open for business, no it will not be on your terms. We can negotiate as equals. Come and help if you want to make it better. It is a great message and I am glad to hear that some of our Nickel mining and refining expertise is getting put to good use there
@gtaraya
Ай бұрын
Equals… HAH!
@amorpatriae1659
Ай бұрын
just like the title said, EU Imperialism. Its on their DNA, 'You do as i said you to do peasant, or else'
@AIKalangie
Ай бұрын
Realistically it is easier for us indonesian to do trading and transfer of techs (legally) with australia, canada, US, japan and south korea than with EU. These countries have higher FDI in Indonesia than EU.
@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice
Ай бұрын
@@gtarayayeah lol EU ARROGANCE
@joMan1060
Ай бұрын
Thanks so much, Canadian understand Indonesian in this regard.. We Indonesia know that we need to learn more on how to mine nickle cleaner, we hope other country teach us instead of attacking us in WTO. We are open for business, we are happy to welcome more Canadian company invest in added Value production in Indonesia nickle businesses.
Thank you Mr. Ambassador, Indonesia have the right to defend it's interests!
@lzh4950
Ай бұрын
I remember Singapore said something similar when defending its relatively neutral position over the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
@xakushonx8798
Ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
@james7286
Ай бұрын
@@xakushonx8798 Indonesia is not a colony and have the right to choose who to sell goods and service to, Indonesia have the right to defend it's interest
@xakushonx8798
Ай бұрын
@@james7286 Did you even read my comment or are you just unable to understand it? INDONESIA JOINED THE WTO to profit from it, so it also has to follow the rules. If Indonesia doesnt wanna follow the rules dont join the WTO. You know how contracts work right?
@robthebob4586
Ай бұрын
@@xakushonx8798Does the US and EU themselves follow their own rules? Or do you think they can just impose it and forget about it whenever they want?
Indonesia does not need "rules" from the genocide enablers.
@jesperburns
Ай бұрын
What does China have to do with this?
@FragLord
Ай бұрын
What does Russia have to do with this?
@Blahblahblah_420
Ай бұрын
Wait, Indonesia is itself part of the club Hint: East Timor
@erwannthietart3602
Ай бұрын
Says the one that also enabled a genocide, dont put all the worlds evil on one place, he whole world sucks no need for foreigners to reach that conclusion
@worlds3061
Ай бұрын
@@Blahblahblah_420Literally 30 years ago and under a dictatorship. Try again
Bro EU is shaking in the hand of Indonesia man.... last time Indonesia band coal for a few weeks, and that make South Korea Electricity crumble
@lzh4950
Ай бұрын
Indonesia also banned sand exports for a while, causing concrete to become more expensive in Singapore, so for a while I heard that it built apartment buildings with steel instead of reinforced concrete
@xakushonx8798
Ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
@muezzagaming1
Ай бұрын
Victim mentality, Indonesia has long been a victim. and now Indonesia is slowly starting to become smarter and starting to develop and become independent, which is what makes western countries nervous. So far Indonesia has only been asked to export raw goods, but now they are forcing other countries to set up factories in Indonesia which European countries are trying to refuse, even though other Asian countries want to set up factories in Indonesia. western countries are still trying to monopolize Indonesia's resources, they are trying making Indonesia destroy and deplete their own natural resources while western countries reap the benefits, then after that they blame Indonesia for destroying nature, with their go green thing which they themselves don't care about
@muezzagaming1
Ай бұрын
@@xakushonx8798 and you also know that WTO regulations are actually more beneficial to European countries
@NessieNice
Ай бұрын
@@xakushonx8798 yeah, but WTO whined when Indonesia talked about leaving
Support for Indonesia from México 🇲🇽🤝🏽🇮🇩 we need to stand strong and together, support each other against the oppressive imperialist practices of the Anglo-Saxon community Eurocentric and those bad hombres of the United States. World united against imperialism 👊🏽
@visitbali364
Ай бұрын
Of cours bro. The character of westerners from the VOC era until now has not changed. But now they play systematically
@JeffPar50
Ай бұрын
With how polarized the world is, either you pick one economic block or the other. I think you will find out quickly that the grass is not greener on the other side. The only real alternative to the Western economic block is China and Russia. These countries implement way more unfair trade restrictions than the West. Generally, the West allows developing countries very favorable trade deals. Look up the tariffs that China places on imports, and look at how many subsidies they give to their manufacturing sector. It has gotten to the point where developing countries struggle to find export markets because of China's overproduction. It makes the western hombres of the US not seem as bad.
@dgmojojojo
Ай бұрын
@@JeffPar50 or, you know, as Indonesia does from their independence i think it's free, proactive and neutral or something like that i forgot.
@laosasean8482
Ай бұрын
@@JeffPar50 Those countries are rich in natural resources but EU got none and that why they tried took over the Global south.
@fevakurniawan5689
Ай бұрын
Thanks you for your support
Indonesian palm oil plantation size is around 110.000km², yet able to produce more edible oil than the whole EU 1,7 million km² vegetable oil plantation. So, who's more environmentaly friendly here?
@tubagussujana2835
Ай бұрын
of course, the EU is more environmentally friendly how dare you ask that question? EU is anything and everything about the environment
@Zantigableiaust
Ай бұрын
@@tubagussujana2835 Yeah lol..
@za7v9ier
Ай бұрын
palm oil has the most productive yield per hectare.
@cgame2867
Ай бұрын
@@tubagussujana2835wtf😂
@sfyn93
Ай бұрын
Negara maju selalu lebih mencemari lingkungan dari pada negara berkembang, itu sudah pasti, tidak mungkin tidak.
well mannered and well spoken ambassador of indonesia
EU : ban palm oil,because of deforestation. INDONESIA : Ban Nickle export. EU : WAIT THAT'S ILLEGAL.
@hoti47
Ай бұрын
Im an eu sceptic myself and I want it gone or at least reormed, but I don't think they said it's illegal.
@xakushonx8798
Ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
@rahmadrenaldi2624
Ай бұрын
@@xakushonx8798report this guy, he's a bot.
@renee0768
21 күн бұрын
@@xakushonx8798I AGREEE, INDONESIA SHOULD LEAVE WTO AND LEAVE ITS WTO-SUPPORTING CONSUMERS WITHOUT NICKEL RIGHT? THEY SHOULD JUST BUY SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A LOT MORE CHEAP! Uhoh, BUT WHERE?! INDONESIA?! LMAO
EU talked environment principles, then buys Oil from Russia..
@MaFoTopu
Ай бұрын
From Qatar, Saudi Arabia and UAE too.
@appletree6741
Ай бұрын
EU doesn’t buy oil from Russia, only Hungary does
@apoek.lizt.blitzas4497
Ай бұрын
Jerman, Franc, and many other guys Rusia oil also do you remember after eu sanction Rusia? They get energi crisis during winter@@appletree6741
@futuretechworld576
Ай бұрын
@@appletree6741they still do , don’t be fooled you cannot cut Russian oil out of global trade
@Yusef-uh4wl
Ай бұрын
Eu doesnt buy from russia but from india which buy from russia
If a coin is Tossed then Western Countries will say both Head and Tail is mine.
@DNmyhusband
Ай бұрын
UE 😂😂😂😂😂
@ska5568
Ай бұрын
Because EU is no longer HE / SHE anymore, EU is now THEY / THEM 😂😂😂
@exelrode
Ай бұрын
To be fair all countries would want that , including India. Look at how India plays both sides when it suits them and justify it in the name of national interests
@ah5904
Ай бұрын
@@exelrode Although I'm not India, but I'll help them to explain simple logic to European like you. You see, in this world there is a word called "neutral". So, playing *BOTH SIDES* is different than *WANTING ALL SIDES* . India, just like Indonesia is a *NON BLOC* country from Cold War Era. So it'll be not surprised if Non Bloc countries like India play on both sides, so "dictacting" another country to play *ONLY* on your sides is a NO NO for us. Because, unlike "WESTERN EUROPE", we have CHOICES. That's the MAIN reason why our country is still standing.
@WelshGuitarDude
Ай бұрын
@@ah5904 you don't have choices you're poor. If you want wealth your only option is relations with the wealthy West. China learnt this in the 90ies and over took India and most of Asia massively. The West won't let you be neutral if you want your turn eating a slice of their pie, they set the rules . Or don't and stay poor which India has chosen to do for most of the modern era so far. China has started to turn away from the west and become hostile, now look at their situation, it's a mess. Lots of major economic problems as growth slows. You can't get wealthy from nothing you have to get it from the west because they have the money and the financial market stronghold. Where else are you going to magically make money and over take china in terms of citizen wealth?
Respects to Indonesian government for protecting their small farmers and local businessmen against imperialism.
@rassicsiddik7439
18 күн бұрын
Huh? Protecting small farmers.??? Dude, it's anything but that. Agricultures industries in Indonesia are controlled by the rich.
@carmelovirgiliolim2984
18 күн бұрын
@@rassicsiddik7439 They are all Indonesians - rich or small. Why must Indonesia permit foreign companies to control their agriculture? That is a basic industry that must remain in the hands of the nationals.
@rassicsiddik7439
18 күн бұрын
@@carmelovirgiliolim2984 you really don't get what I'm saying huh..? And btw I agree with you about EU imperialism.
@carmelovirgiliolim2984
18 күн бұрын
@@rassicsiddik7439 Let us leave the resolution of rich and small farmers to the Indonesian government. Let us trust that they will travel their path to egalitarianism based on their culture and values.
@meeveryday123
10 күн бұрын
That's truth, you're smart dude. Thanks
It's good to see another intelligent diplomat. There are fewer and fewer of them in the West sadly...
@gislainelee3181
8 күн бұрын
Sadly yes
It's actually pretty simple. They EU didn't want their agriculture sector harmed by Indonesian Palm. In the other hand they also didn't want their smelter to moves to Indonesia. Deforestation, free trade, and maybe in the future separatism is just the excuse.
@sragen99
Ай бұрын
Of all vegetable oil, palm oil is the cheapest and yields the most result /m2. If the argument is destroying the environment because of monoculture, then rapeseed oil, sunflower oil, soybean oil etc. is more destructive.
@jayjaywoodland
Ай бұрын
nations are sick of imported inflation again and again (because of U$$D Over-Printing), disrupting their economic growth... while us enjoy their spending spree without feeling guilty/shame for the world... in addition, nations are also de-risking their reserves from being looted/sanctioned by us. world-wide de-dollarization is inevitable and imminent, or is it?
@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice
Ай бұрын
@@sragen99 we should make a argument about that lol attacking sunflower and soybean oil as well as rapeseed oil like they did to our palm oil. i mean we have the population to outgun them in the internet
@sragen99
Ай бұрын
@@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice the IUCN literally made a report on that with all the data needed.
@freezedeve3119
Ай бұрын
@@sragen99 only reason why EU buys palm oil is to make eco friendly gasolin for cars where other oils are for food consumption, so you can not really compare all oils together as equal, So eu stopped buying palm oil because it caused problem where EU people cars ate poor people food.
Good job Indonesia 🇮🇩 👍
@user-xt4bn8ec5s
Ай бұрын
EU seems to like the fruits but not the tree, like the tree but not the fruits?
@notusneo
Ай бұрын
@nono-ri9bt Palestine just like Israel is not a real btw
@kv4648
Ай бұрын
@@notusneo so is Indonesia. It's just java in a disguise
@user-yh5oo2cq8s
Ай бұрын
Not
@coconutz11
Ай бұрын
Make Indonesia a Colony again
Very brave stance by Indonesia. Bravo to you 👍🏻
@xakushonx8798
Ай бұрын
No its not. The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
I was extremely impressed by the Indonesian ambassador. He balanced the soft and hard issues very well by making a positive appeal on behalf on Indonesia's trade interests while also aiming to improve relations with the German public. It speaks well that Indonesia is able to reach into it's population of 280 million and bring forth a person of merit like this to act as it's ambassador.
While the EU farmers are protesting all the time
@alicejyi4705
Ай бұрын
Right, that's one of their rule based world order
@jorsm.3893
Ай бұрын
@@alicejyi4705 That's sentence make you try ?
@StrikeBolteafc
Ай бұрын
Good, let them because they don’t do anything
@machintrucGaming
Ай бұрын
They've won dramatic relax on Neonicotinoid and large scale industrial sheptels of chikens. Up to 40 000 chickens without environmental studies. That 40 000 chiken poop gotta go somehwere, and it's going to end up in making even more deadly algua.
@xakushonx8798
Ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
Indonesia is a big country and has right to determine which ones are beneficial to the nation and which ones are not
@StrikeBolteafc
Ай бұрын
Yeah so why do they still keep complaining about the eu then?
@blood_ackerman6190
Ай бұрын
@@StrikeBolteafcThe one complaining here is the EU, why has Indonesia stopped nickel exports to the EU. You are too innocent or don't understand politics, that is Indonesia's response, because you banned Indonesian palm oil in EU. Now Indonesia did the same thing
@StrikeBolteafc
Ай бұрын
@@blood_ackerman6190 ok, so eu banned olive oil and Indonesia banned nickel exports to help domestic manufacturing, so you both done it to each other so neither side can really complain
@MakIyen
Ай бұрын
@@StrikeBolteafc funny thing in life. The one u reject turn out to be d one u need most.. eu never learnt frm classic love story 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@springfeelin7548
Ай бұрын
@@StrikeBolteafcbut EU launched a WTO lawsuit against Indonesia. So who complain more here? They banned indonesia first, and they got ban in return. But now they turn into tantrum mode, and say it is unfair. so funny.
As the ambassador said, He asked if EU was ready. I Love it. No fear and with full confidence. Shows how a non-alignment country should proudly hold their dignity.
@thijmstickman8349
Ай бұрын
He did lie about the 2.2Mha. As regards the situation of forests within the Union, the State of Europe's Forests 2020 report states that, between 1990 and 2020, the area of forests in Europe has increased by 9 %, carbon stored in the biomass has grown by 50 % and wood supply has risen by 40 %. (segments from the EU law) From 2001 to 2023, Indonesia lost 30.8 Mha of tree cover, equivalent to a 19% decrease in tree cover since 2000, and 22.2 Gt of C0,e emissions. (Global forest watch) I looked up the 2.2 Mha claim and only found sources verifying the EU laws claim, since Natura 2000 there has been basically no deforestation in europe.
@xakushonx8798
Ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
Greetings from Germany to Indonesia! This guy is right. And Indonesians always have been nice and welcoming people towards us.
@user-specdsds1555
Ай бұрын
Apa kabar. Do you need a whiteman who support East indies?
@sultanahsan9257
4 сағат бұрын
@@user-specdsds1555Who Of Course Dutch But Brits Not Because That Make Netherland Rich
EU : We don't want your palm oil Indonesia, because it's bad for environment!! Same EU : We still want you to export raw nickel to us though, If not we'll bring this to WTO ..... [Edit]
@jnfunvufb
Ай бұрын
Wrong. Watch the interview. Indonesia isn't the only nation that produces raw nickel and there exits a nations who can produce nickel with eu rule.
@actorneno
Ай бұрын
Always double standards colonization
@joMan1060
Ай бұрын
@@jnfunvufb lol.. then why sue Indonesia in WTO ??? go buy somewhere else... LOL
@Blodhelm
Ай бұрын
He straight up complained that the EU doesn't import their nickel and then called Brussels racist for not buying their forest-devastating products.
@skellurip
Ай бұрын
@@Blodhelm brussel is racist colonialist, hardly controversial
This Indonesian officer is great. Impressive.
@user-dx2bf7nr2p
Ай бұрын
Indeed
@LowenKM
Ай бұрын
Yep, great interview! Though interesting that Indonesia's trade with China is nearly _twice_ as much as with the U.S. & EU _combined..._ and whether Indonesia can resist China's own brand of heavy-handed 'colonialism' (aka, "Don't do or say anything that might 'displease' Xi and the CCP"}?
@jayjaywoodland
Ай бұрын
nations are sick of imported inflation again and again (because of U$$D Over-Printing), disrupting their economic growth... while us enjoy their spending spree without feeling guilty/shame for the world... in addition, nations are also de-risking their reserves from being looted/sanctioned by us. world-wide de-dollarization is inevitable and imminent, or is it?
@mingonmongo1
Ай бұрын
@@jayjaywoodland So you'd prefer the world switch to the 'Yuan' instead, 'Komrade'...? ;-)
@GWT_A
Ай бұрын
@@mingonmongo1 any country would want the best offer they could get, be it in idr, yen, yuan, euro, usd or any other currencies. USD used to be a globally used currency, but US one sided ban and freeze account on their own accord is posing a risk. The world is not revolving under them, people will look for alternatives, and whether it is yuan or rubel other will follow the rules that suit them best.
The reporter is owned by the diplomat.. well done.
tell them Indonesia! tell them!
Not only Indonesia,malaysia also will join Indonesia against EU capitalists
@shadowmod3
Ай бұрын
Well, u either be a capitalist with the West or you can be a communist with China. The CCP wants to rule over your resources anyway and u guys are already buying their buy and throw away products.
@pulohhan5455
Ай бұрын
And dont forget about the white DOUBLE STANDART
@5ty717
Ай бұрын
No capitalists in Malaysia either…
@kevin1294
Ай бұрын
Welcome bro…we’ll glad to greet with you with open arms.
@JG-xi4tu
Ай бұрын
I like the "capitalist" part in "your environmental protection regulations are very tough for us"🤦🏻♂️
The principle of European and Western countries is generally to take maximum advantage and have control over it. Modern colonial model.
@Kvasiir
Ай бұрын
No different to how Indonesia has treated west Papuans 😢
@jagodiving
Ай бұрын
@@Kvasiirso come to indonesia and look what hapoened in papua, how indonesia gave much money and effort to growth papua
@Kvasiir
Ай бұрын
@@jagodivingfree west Papua from colonisers ☝🏻
@Tumanggor-sq2xp
Ай бұрын
Your eyes @@Kvasiir
@winter6849
Ай бұрын
@@Kvasiirso that white countries can come in and take the resources just like in timor leste 👍
This guy knows whats going on and isn't afraid to speak up 😂
@thijmstickman8349
8 күн бұрын
As regards the situation of forests within the Union, the State of Europe’s Forests 2020 report states that, between 1990 and 2020, the area of forests in Europe has increased by 9 %, carbon stored in the biomass has grown by 50 % and wood supply has risen by 40 %. (segments from the EU law) From 2001 to 2023, Indonesia lost 30.8 Mha of tree cover, equivalent to a 19% decrease in tree cover since 2000, and 22.2 Gt of CO₂e emissions. (Global forest watch) I looked up the 2.2 Mha claim and only found sources verifying the EU laws claim, normally I wouldn't assume it was a lie, but it was said by a politician on twitter. I agree Indonesia has the right to only export processed Nickel, and the deforestation regulation may need to be amended to not disproportionately impact small farmers. The EU owes a debt due to colonization they should repay by helping Indonesia in develop its economy, but the EU has every right and reason to limit its import of products which cause deforestation.
@laillosidgar
6 күн бұрын
@@thijmstickman8349 why you cares with our forest, but not our economic development? If you cares the tree, you should help the people develop enough resource to not cut our trees? Typical western hypocritical way of thinking.
@thijmstickman8349
6 күн бұрын
@@laillosidgar Yes I agree, we should help your economy develop. We should help you build your own nickle processing industry. We care about your forests because the earth is a global system, environmental degradation effects our entire ecosystem. I'm not on the EUs side necessarily, I think the Netherlands should be paying reparations, but when you all use a lot of lies to argue your point I have to point them out.
@laillosidgar
6 күн бұрын
@@thijmstickman8349 Quote from source 3 : Many of the EU’s forests - which account for about 38% of its land surface area - are managed for timber production, and thus harvested regularly. But the loss of biomass increased by 69% in the period from 2016 to 2018, compared with the period from 2011 to 2015, according to satellite data. The area of forest harvested increased by 49% in the same comparison, published in the journal Nature Research. This indicates that much more harvesting has occurred in a short period, even accounting for natural cycles and the impact of events such as forest fires and heavy snows. The harvested area could be expected to vary by less than about 10% owing to cycles of growing and planting, and similar effects, according to Guido Ceccherini of the EU Joint Research Centre, lead author of the study. Other factors are therefore likely to be in play, and these could include increased demand for wood as a fuel, and bigger markets for timber and other wood products. The satellite data could therefore be an early indicator of unsustainable demands being placed on the EU’s forests. EDIT : spamming comment aside, where do you get your number, I was just googling and deforestation rate are increasing in EU are in my first page.
You go Indonesia 🇮🇩💪🏻 🇧🇷❤
@xakushonx8798
Ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
Recently, DW has interviewed officials from the Philippines and Indonesia. I think this is great! Asean people were from former EU colonies. Asean culture, i.e. South East Asian culture is somewhat different from North East Asia. Asean culture tends to be informal but remembers small things in the past, and their actions are based on track of history.
@VoiceofSarawak
Ай бұрын
Sorry but I think you are wrong SEAsian people have not much concept of history neither is it taught in school. Ask a young Vietnamese who they fought in the Vietnam war and you will be surprised
@paranoya733
Ай бұрын
@@VoiceofSarawak That only applies to malaysia & the philippines
@thegrandlord2914
Ай бұрын
@@VoiceofSarawakwe indonesian have strong concept of history and our ideology, constitution and our tradition are based on our historical civilization. Vietnamese don't have strong concept of history because in the past, north vietnam are part of chinese empire while southern vietnam are independent kingdom
@krayondrill
Ай бұрын
Remember the Dutch genocide in Indonesia
@lacsarlacsar3566
Ай бұрын
@@krayondrill Dutch wiped out entire Run Banda island population just to take their nutmegs and cloves.
Forest in europe had been long gone. instead of teaching other countries to sustain the forest, they better rebuild their forest
@jatimyw
Ай бұрын
I believe you are referring to replanting them as virgin forest with multiple kind of trees, which mean planting trees without timber harvest, keep it that way forever, provide oxygen and sactuary to animals, so that "many native animals already extict in EU" no longer to be proud of, and by doing that EU also contribute to suppress climate change, not just dictate that to countries that already preserves their virgin forest while doing nothing.. Oh wait, isn't doing nothing is reffered as "something" according to hypocrites type of mentality?
@JeffPar50
Ай бұрын
Europe is actively reforesting though. 3 billion trees will have been planted by 2030.
@myne00
Ай бұрын
"Will have been." How many right now, and how long has it been?
@keihazuki22
Ай бұрын
@@JeffPar50 Those trees are not for natural forest ecosystem. Those trees are not suitable for any small animal/normal vegetation to grow naturally. It's relatively close to palm oil plantation with rows of single type of trees either for plantation or logging. Its similar to palm oil company clearing land and planting palm trees and saying that they are actively planting million of trees.
@ChristiaanHW
Ай бұрын
yeah Europe made the mistake of having to much deforestation so the rest of the world has the right to destroy nature as well. why should we learn from mistakes in the past, just keep on making the same mistakes and hope someone in the future will someone fix it. /s
By far the best piece of journalism I have seen on YT in years. Significant questions, asked in a respectful and polite way and than let the other person give his answers, respecting their point of view, independent of if you share it. Bravo! Please more of it. Even or maybe especially with representatives of states we might not always see eye to eye (just to make it clear, I don’t think Indonesia is one of those). Listening is the gateway to understanding. Understanding is the way to compromise. Only in compromise we can find real solutions.
@thijmstickman8349
Ай бұрын
I do wish the interviewer pointed out the 2.2Mha lie. As regards the situation of forests within the Union, the State of Europe's Forests 2020 report states that, between 1990 and 2020, the area of forests in Europe has increased by 9 %, carbon stored in the biomass has grown by 50 % and wood supply has risen by 40 %. (segments from the EU law) From 2001 to 2023, Indonesia lost 30.8 Mha of tree cover, equivalent to a 19% decrease in tree cover since 2000, and 22.2 Gt of C0,e emissions. (Global forest watch) I looked up the 2.2 Mha claim and only found sources verifying the EU laws claim, since Natura 2000 there has been basically no deforestation in europe.
indonesia .. blessed to have this kind of intellectuals as their ambassador.
EU is not wrong to be worried about climate change from deforestation. The way they are going about it is the issue. What Indonesia (and Asean) is saying is that the EU, after cutting down large swaths of their own primary forest, is trying to tell other countries not to do the same - not forgetting that the EU is a major contributor to climate change the past hundred plus years. And the ambassador did point out that the EUDR was unbalanced by being harsh on palm oil while being lax on rapeseed oil.
@Ramli_K
Ай бұрын
Indonesia is also not wrong by banning raw materials exported where it wants to export high value processed raw material. in business, you can't force other party to follow your rule.
@krisnaagungmurti5756
Ай бұрын
So just don't but our nickel. So sinple. Don't bring it to WTO. We can manage itself. You don't wanna our palm oil, okay, so same as our nickel and other natural resources. And stop using other natural resources from develop ping country too
@hopeintruth5119
Ай бұрын
Tbh, it's not completely the same. There is different political forces trying to push green policies and others that just want business. Sometimes compromise happens, and it may look hypocritical from a far. EU has the right to trade and let other know their standards just like everyone else should
@pesmobile-lh5fs
Ай бұрын
@@hopeintruth5119ramah lingkungan itu hanya omong kosong untuk membuat murah harga barang dipasaran, seperti batu baru,minyak sekarang masih banyak yg mengkonsumsi dan membeli
@JohnDoe-ug3su
Ай бұрын
@@hopeintruth5119 and Indonesia has the right to not sell a certain type of product.
Indonesia very simple, my product not environment friendly. So come to Indonesia and make it more based on your standard. As simple as that. We are open to investment and new knowledge.
@Vigilant_warrior_08
Ай бұрын
Someone here seems to have been brainwashed by the west-leaning media.
@chrisy.228
Ай бұрын
And then they came to Indo and then they saw all the bureaucracy and the illegal extortion here and there😂 It’s not about patriotism in the end it is all about money.
@nafislavigne
Ай бұрын
@@chrisy.228it’s the same everywhere hun. The EU take advantages from developing countries.
@chrisy.228
Ай бұрын
@@nafislavigne elaborate the similarities please. I don’t see EU giving IUP to religious organizations…
@suasanakota6219
Ай бұрын
@@chrisy.228I think we have a simpler beurocracy then the Germans.
Indonesia, you are 100% right! 🙏🏻
@xakushonx8798
Ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
@aliaputrinadaa
24 күн бұрын
@@xakushonx8798Bla bla bla womp womp womp. 😜🤪
@Yt699Dutch
15 күн бұрын
@@xakushonx8798 I don't care that much for the WTO to. 🥲😂
I'll stand with indonesian on this matter
It's not colonialism, just imperialism ! Wow great quote ❤
@MakIyen
Ай бұрын
Different. Colonialism.. they rob d whole country like Dutch did to us fir 350 years 😊
@erialbar
Ай бұрын
Meanwhile EU support israehell
@nanashipersonne4151
Ай бұрын
I feel like it is just spreading misinformation, if you take a politician‘s tweet and just take it for granted without fact checking. Which time period is he talking about? How do you define mature forests? Also there are different trees that save differing amounts of CO2 and last time I checked the Economist wrote that the forests are coming back in Europe. I do not need to go and protest if the surface of forests are growing. In my country I hope I would have noticed the forests disappearing more. If it happened over the last two decades.
@JayCarlz-sj2xp
Ай бұрын
@@nanashipersonne4151Where are you from?? And where is your proof??
@JeffPar50
Ай бұрын
This is emotionally charged wording from a politician. Nothing about this situation is even remotely comparable to colonialism or imperialism. The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs.
*This is a brilliant man. Indonesia must be proud.*
The Indonesians are smart, saw and understood where the West has gone.
If you see this, please send positive vibes my way. I’ve been struggling with health issues for years and could use your prayers.
@apriliashinta6075
27 күн бұрын
get well soon
@rudyalfonsus686
11 күн бұрын
get well soon
@ariefantono836
9 күн бұрын
prayer sent
Good Job Indonesia no more colonizers, stop neocolonialism !!!
@Blodhelm
Ай бұрын
LOL he's there begging the EU to buy from Indonesia instead of Chile.
@joMan1060
Ай бұрын
@@Blodhelm no, he is not.... he wants EU to respect other countries. not being hypocrite.
@raquetdude
Ай бұрын
Get Indonesia out of Papua! If Indonesia is anti colonial stop being imperialistic in Papua
@truthboom
Ай бұрын
yep they should remove islam as it's part of the neocolonialism too
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
Ай бұрын
@@raquetdude LOL who bribed all Indonesia parliament members just to get a right to mine Papua until you see a hole in another side of the world? USA. Who poured toxic tailing waste to Sentani lake in order to rise ROI for the mining company's shareholding? the USA. Who agreed about the result of Papera? the USA
Well don't complain if we prefer to do more trades with China, India, and Russia.
@alicejyi4705
Ай бұрын
EU just blocked China almost on everything after Russia. Eu will have to trade with itself or his big brother USA.
@Aron_justin
Ай бұрын
They hate this if Indonesia do so 😂
@epicgamescene9273
Ай бұрын
Right? I mean every country wants nickel
@Yusef-uh4wl
Ай бұрын
EU will trade w china russia india so ukraine can lose badly
@KapitanVladimirArsenyev
Ай бұрын
Plus China last year protested bauxite of Indonesia to WTO and was caught smuggling 5 million tons of nickel from Southeastern Sulawesi to mainland China.. that was the amount caught by our Custom Officers. There should be more than that.
According to Wiki, in the last 30 years, Indonesia's forest land has diminished by almost 30%, while Europe has increased by 10%. Indonesia still has more forest than Europe but it needs to be careful, the trend is not good.
@JakeBassCZ
Ай бұрын
Yes. Yet Europe is hypocritical about criticizing deforestation.
@suasanakota6219
Ай бұрын
Good, meaning now is EU time to create forest, and our turn revolutionizes our industry. Keep the balance ala Thanos.
@yoyomama99
Ай бұрын
Yes, they reforest when their industries and their power has already developed / reached its peak / stalemate. Then they ban developing countries from reaching that kind of power by strangle-holding their development, while also claiming its for the sake of the environment. Hey, 2 birds with 1 stone! Win-win right? Go world peace 😄 Oh, and also, they still need nickel, and don't really care how its processed as long as they get it. Of course we allow them to get it no matter the circumstances, its the EU and they really need this nickel. We'll allow them to not be eco friendly on this one resource, they've been so eco friendly on the others!
@dgib1694
Ай бұрын
@@suasanakota6219 And Indonesia to turn cold?
@souleater231
Ай бұрын
@@dgib1694the deforestation problem has been decreasing in this years, we preventing it pretty much, the main issues here is how obnoxious EU regarding our countries problem, like they didn't do it themselves, they keep pushing this green agenda to prevent us from actually being a developing country. Although i agree regarding the deforestation is a big problem, I dont want to hear it from EU or any other imperialistic country. Also what's the different between palm oil and nickle anyway? Nickle is far more dangerous than palm oil.
Quality of Asian ambassadors and diplomats are first class
@thijmstickman8349
Ай бұрын
He did lie about the 2.2 Mha claim. As regards the situation of forests within the Union, the State of Europe's Forests 2020 report states that, between 1990 and 2020, the area of forests in Europe has increased by 9 %, carbon stored in the biomass has grown by 50 % and wood supply has risen by 40 %. (segments from the EU law) From 2001 to 2023, Indonesia lost 30.8 Mha of tree cover, equivalent to a 19% decrease in tree cover since 2000, and 22.2 Gt of C0e emissions. (Global forest watch) l agree Indonesia has the right to only export processed Nickel, and the deforestation regulation may need to be amended to not disproportionately impact small farmers, but the EU has every right and reason to limit its import of products which cause deforestation.
Indonesia is making progress in EV based public transportation. That is something to be proud of. The EV revolution is supposed to be about the EV public transportation revolution. 🙏🙏
…it’s not colonialism, it’s just imperialism…😂😂😂
@NetiHidayat-pi6cm
Ай бұрын
Sama saja dengan mengatakan dudu asu ning kirik😅😅😅
@abcddef2112
Ай бұрын
But colonial attitude
@gehemehe6056
Ай бұрын
Itulah baru nangkep klo imperial/kerjaan gitu suka nagih upeti kek preman njirr
@TitouFromMars
Ай бұрын
No. It's called sovereignty. The EU has the right to define what may or may not come onto its soil. Just as Indonesia has that right. The rest is a matter of trade negotiations.
@Aru_im
Ай бұрын
@@TitouFromMars it's no longer a negotiation if the other party is asking their authority relatives to help them profit rather than raising their stakes/offer.
South East Asian countries hope there is a mutual respect on each other, however, EU politicans always talk in a high position.
@hr-g4640
28 күн бұрын
they only care because they are afraid of china, if China didn't exist they would even listen to any of their opinions and necessities
@probablygekhy
8 күн бұрын
the bigger picture
Excelent interview! That goes to show that when you open your country to business people start to take you seriously.
Well done Indonesia. Stay firm and defend your interests against the EU. Your ambassador to Germany comes across as a smart diplomat who suggests a way beneficial for both sides without loosing sight of his countries interests.
@thijmstickman8349
Ай бұрын
I do whish he didn't lie about the 2.2 Mha. As regards the situation of forests within the Union, the State of Europe's Forests 2020 report states that, between 1990 and 2020, the area of forests in Europe has increased by 9 %, carbon stored in the biomass has grown by 50 % and wood supply has risen by 40 %. (segments from the EU law) From 2001 to 2023, Indonesia lost 30.8 Mha of tree cover, equivalent to a 19% decrease in tree cover since 2000, and 22.2 Gt of C0e emissions. (Global forest watch) l agree Indonesia has the right to only export processed Nickel, and the deforestation regulation may need to be amended to not disproportionately impact small farmers, but the EU has every right and reason to limit its import of products which cause deforestation.
@ralfdeutsch5770
29 күн бұрын
@@thijmstickman8349 Do you believe that the EU´s concern is the Indonesian rain forest? Nothing can make me believe that, not for a moment. Which EU country fulfills its climate obligation according to international agreements? I think their concern is profits for their own nickel processing industries. They see Indonesia as a competitor and do not like it.
Proud of indonesian gov step ❤👍
The Netherlands made Indonesia pay for the rebuilding of the Netherlands after WOII. I don't know where the EU gets the audacity to lecture Indonesia.
Great interview by the ambassador. And decent of the journalist to present the side of Germany and how they struggle with their hypocrisy. Where is this superiority complex even coming out of? when all other large countries have been working together with Indonesia.
Maybe Indonesian should just ban all its products to EU and let them buy from more expensive country.. the Nickel and such
@Kvasiir
Ай бұрын
That wouldn’t help Indonesia, they need the $ 😂
@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice
Ай бұрын
@@Kvasiir in exchange you're technology transition will slow😂 and other more nicer nations will develop it😂. You don't realise how many educated people available ARE NOT YOU LOL😂
@Kvasiir
Ай бұрын
@@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice plenty of other 3world counties can supply EU with what they need. Keep coping 😍❤️
@fian92
Ай бұрын
@@Kvasiirsure, then stop sue-ing Indonesia to WTO, just get over it and ask other 3world countries then, we'll see who will laugh in the end lol
@Aussie-Mocha
Ай бұрын
@@fian92 Aaah! The good old geopolitics of capitalism. Look at my silly country. Australia exports 3x more natural gas than Qatar and yet , Qatar taxes their exports almost 7x more. Rich people don’t want to do things by the book. They are happy to “appear” they are legit but they absolutely are not. Doesn’t matter what side of the pig pond you are on. They are all the same.
smart guy. but long relation? not German. remember: a Dutch company was colonizing you. The VOC. But for now: keep what you have, a beautiful country with lots of minerals/fuels.
@catraaruna3805
22 күн бұрын
The history of German-Indonesian relations can be seen from the maritime relations carried out by German explorer, Balthasar Sprenger who wrote about Indonesia in 1509. It was covered in the book “Sie kamen als Forscher und Ärzte: 500 Jahre deutsch-indonesische Medizingeschichte”
I live in a EU country. Our forests are all gone, 90%+, it's all replaced by buildings, agriculture or plantations of eucalyptus, pine trees for commercial exploration and those are not forests. Hypocrisy for sure.
@niemand1072
Ай бұрын
Which country?
@gont183
Ай бұрын
India is not in the EU
@FragLord
12 күн бұрын
Since 2000 EU gained 10% forest, Indonesia lost 30%. Indonesia is a collection of islands, who do you think is going to have the biggest problems with climate change? Right, under developed islands...
@probablygekhy
8 күн бұрын
@@FragLordhow's your 10% mate, 10% of soybean and sunflowers?
Europe always had new ways to try to "colonize" Indonesia.
@judebrianlardera
Ай бұрын
It's a shame Prabrowo was never arrested by the ICC because he went to East Timor and orchestrated the genocide in East Timor. If he were, Indonesians would protest against the ICC for neo-colonialism while praising it for issuing an arrest warrant on Israel for genocide.
@StrikeBolteafc
Ай бұрын
How is it colonising? I didn’t know Indonesia is under occupation by the eu and having no control over anything
@azmanabas8425
Ай бұрын
Not only Indonesia.. Africa and middle east too.
@BayuAH
Ай бұрын
StrikeBolteafc: Dude, learn history. Indonesia was colonized by Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, English, and indirectly French. Although those just briefly, except Dutch.
@MakIyen
Ай бұрын
@@judebrianlarderago get ur new medicine dude. Prabowo is our next leader ❤
Mr Ambassador usage of "help" here might be misunderstood here. We don't mean "help" as in aid and assistance, but "help" as in collaboration "you help scratch my back, I help scratch yours" kind of thing.
@apriliahussna4561
Ай бұрын
"Help" and "assist" can be similar in meaning in Indonesian. ("Help" seems to what comes to mind first when we think of the English word that more closely means "assist") The ambassador certainly did not mean the word "help" as someone inferior needing help over other superior people. We also certainly don't need to be lectured by an organization trying to be a moral police
As always Indonesian always looked down by the western countries. I feel like this not the first time that we're being ripped off.
this man got the balls to say all this harsh things to EU
The push back will not only come from Indonesia. You'll see.
@roughysk9851
Ай бұрын
The tables will be turned
im with indonesia this time.
Great to see the Indonesians standing up for themselves!
so basically EU is like saying "ban all drugs, except heroin, im addicted to heroin"
Ah those hippocrisy, yes we Indonesian know well about that...
Pak Dubes, I applaud your frankness in the interview. Your message came across in no uncertain terms about Indonesia's perspective.
If EU cared about environment, they wouldn’t putting tariff on Chinese EVs.
@machintrucGaming
Ай бұрын
They wouldn't be pushing for EVs at all.
EU just didn't want China to get hold all the nickel in Indonesia 😪
Indonesia is on the right path
@xakushonx8798
Ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
Europe is history, America is now, Asia is future.
@Teuwufel
Ай бұрын
What does that mean other than trying to sound intellectual?
@mygame5347
Ай бұрын
European countries think that they are the highest race in the world, so everybody that out of them need to service with the best service that slave can do.. You can not order this world for everything that you need, every county in this world has the same right, has the same freedom..... This age is not Neo Colonial Era..... They are free to do everything for their nature product, minerals, they want to sell it to you or not, it is up to them..........
@santostv.
Ай бұрын
Asia is the future only if western money allows it. How sk,Japan ect and now china got rich?
@christinemurray1444
Ай бұрын
Asia is in denial of Chinese imperialism. Meet the new boss.
@rachelandriani484
Ай бұрын
@@christinemurray1444exactly
I'm so proud of this guy representing Indonesia! Matur suksme from Bali Bapak🙏🙏
Indonesia has learnt not to take Europe's deals so easily. Three and a half centuries worth of lesson.
EU produces 2.5 Gigaton of CO2 per year. Indonesia produces 0.5 Gigaton per year. EU is addicted to Russian Oil because they need it for heating during winter. Indonesia does not have winters and consume per capita much smaller amount of energy than any developed nation and thus produce much smaller carbon footprint. But of course, EU is the good guys in the fight against climate change...
@brunoheggli2888
Ай бұрын
We dont need Russian oil!
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
Ай бұрын
who needs the western nowadays if their population is only 1 billion?
@Smart_Motivation8
Ай бұрын
hahaanyingg menyala abangqu
@marco21274
Ай бұрын
Oil is not widely used for heating but for driving.
@nurlindafsihotang49
Ай бұрын
Yup, and the european accuses us as the world's pollutors. B , please!!!!
We have the right to process our raw materials and prioritise our people’s well being. By doing this, we provide job opportunities to our people. We are a developing country, we are thriving and rooting for people on the street, people in absolute poverty, people that even to eat 3 spoons of rice need to work for the whole day. When we are responsible for our own people, then we are stepping out to become a developed country. But don’t ever force or threaten us to sacrifice our people for the sake of the already developed, wealthy countries who feel “victimised” by our policy. 😊
@xakushonx8798
Ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
I m from hk, let me share the eu the way of trading with indonesia for materials; If u want to buy, you need to ensure you are aligning to indonesian strategy, which is to have Indonesian do the follow up value added industrial processes. If you dont, then no thanks to your cash. Same logic goes to all other asian, South American, and African countries. We dare to share you this knowledge because we know you dont want to do it. Until you give up your 20th century mindset, which is buying foreign raw materials in cheap, and do all ur real money earning processes in your countries, and then sell back (some?) 😂to us, U can kiss all the materials and trades goodbye. Simple?
作为中国人,第一次因为这个大使,让我重新认识印尼,原来只知道佐科。
🇳🇱♥️🇮🇩 we houden van jullie Indonesië blijf sterk 💪
Way to go Indonesia.
EU is trying to robs💀
This guys really have a balls of steel
@user-jb8vn7vf1y
Ай бұрын
So Indonesian version Duke Nukem? COOL
@user-jb8vn7vf1y
Ай бұрын
Balls of steel = Badass = Duke Nukem
@karlk7070
Ай бұрын
Nah it takes balls of steel to blame Israel, not to blame the EU. The EU is crippled ever since Russo-Ukrainian war.
The EU ban Indonesia palm oil bcos they say its not environmental friendly but they also want to ban China's EVs and other green technologies bcos they are very environmental friendly. Like their US master, this is European lies and double standards at its finest display
@sayfolman7752
Ай бұрын
They Don't Banned China EV But Put 100,% Tarif That Mean If EV Car Price $10000 They Have To Pay $100000,Common Trick When They Cannot Compete We Put Rule, Regulation,Sanction,And Caatsa In Late 1980 Malaysia Car Brand Almost Dominated EU Market Especially UK It Cheap Reliable Because It Was Build With Assistance From Japanese Manufacture Mitsubishi,Toyota,Daihatsu, Then They Introduce Euro1,2,3,4,5,6 Standard Regulation Today Malaysia Make Collaboration With China Car Manufacture,Geely
@solmak47
Ай бұрын
You have no idea what you are talking about. First of all they didn’t ban Chinese EV’s but they’ve put a tariff. And that is because they are funded by the Chinese government. This created unfair competition since Western factories do not receive any money and help from governments because it’s considered illegal. By doing so, China tried on purpose to damage the EU’s car industry and EU didn’t let them. Read some news before you talk.
@jomogo4644
Ай бұрын
They want to ban China's EVs because they are not safe and make them uncompetitive to destroy the market in EU and US so that they can jack up the price, and we are dependent on them. That is what we are trying to avoid.
@Taschenrechner1337
Ай бұрын
The EU hikes high tariffs on Chinese EVs and others because China is massively subsidizing those industries. I can't see how this constitutes a lie or double standard, though your comment is certainly a lie.
@xakushonx8798
Ай бұрын
What are you talking about they didnt bany any tech bc it environmetal friendly, how is your econemy going xD?