WHY I WILL NEVER FISH A TOURNAMENT ON LAKE FORK AGAIN!!!!

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Lake Fork is a phenomenal lake for fun fishing but I hope I never fish another tournament on that lake again. It rewards you for going after small fish and that goes against everything I've done my whole life.
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  • @chrisfoley3320
    @chrisfoley332021 күн бұрын

    Great show man,I laughed my ass off. Your on the water footage is second to none. You guys work together like a well oiled machine.

  • @russellerney2375
    @russellerney237522 күн бұрын

    Look at you with the "Fairy Wand". Finally moving towards the dark side. Lol😂

  • @timothyturner2165
    @timothyturner216520 күн бұрын

    Your comments/discussion during your videos are way better than most. Really good channel.

  • @2bassj708
    @2bassj7084 күн бұрын

    Lake Fork is a whole different style of fishing that I was used to. But I love the challenge. It’s a totally different ball game coming from Ca fishing Clear lake…where all you need to do is hunt them 5lbers and up. Good video….,

  • @shaggydoo7646
    @shaggydoo764622 күн бұрын

    FINALLY!!!! Able to get HAYMAKERS now!!! Didn't take but 2 years...LOL!!!

  • @richardc8695
    @richardc869522 күн бұрын

    Looked like a lot of fun either way!

  • @Basscater81
    @Basscater8122 күн бұрын

    Grew up fishing Fork and it’s fun to just go fish but I just don’t understand why any circuits put it on the schedule

  • @chrisfoley3320
    @chrisfoley332021 күн бұрын

    I feel your pain man,I would have wore the scales off that first one measuring it. But it's the same rules for everyone so it would still be a fun challenge.

  • @steveahle9921
    @steveahle992122 күн бұрын

    I fished some paper tournaments there were we caught 20 plus 5-6#ers and we won and it was a blast , but weighing 5 unders sucks!

  • @bigguyinalittleboat7927
    @bigguyinalittleboat792720 күн бұрын

    Biggest problem in bass fishing is too many tournaments, so if it makes you or anyone else not fish, I'm all for it.

  • @cody_the_bum8946
    @cody_the_bum894622 күн бұрын

    I had a 7.46 last year in a tournament that was 241/4. A guy brought in a 10+ that wouldn't touch. That lake is crazy. The only other over was smaller than mine.

  • @colemitchell5345
    @colemitchell534522 күн бұрын

    I fished that event and caught a few on a frog that absolutely sucked letting go 🤣. It was crazy to get excited over some that wouldn’t do anything anywhere else.

  • @chrishampton8842
    @chrishampton884222 күн бұрын

    Lmao😂, I get it. In Northwest Illinois we have several tournaments on 12-18 slot lakes, easily blank although you had 15lbs actually

  • @johnmiller5987

    @johnmiller5987

    13 күн бұрын

    Try being a walleye guy on the chain. I was actually impressed by the weights on the Wednesday night tournaments.

  • @user-lq1yb6uz1o
    @user-lq1yb6uz1o20 күн бұрын

    I fished a slot tournament like that years ago on okechobee. I dont remember the slot exactly but i remember it had a one fish over 20 something inches too. It sucked because i watched my dad have a really nice one come to the top and shake the hook. He was flipping. It was a end of the year top 10 in points club tournament or basically our classic they called it. We didnt do to good couple smaller ones

  • @markdoremus4351
    @markdoremus435122 күн бұрын

    Dang the bad luck on the one over 8 Me and my partner a couple years ago fishing Bass Champs caught one on Ivie that was 14.46 and you wouldn’t have been able to keep her on Fork she 7:03 was 23 3/4 long. Glad we were on Ivie

  • @bretmiller21
    @bretmiller2122 күн бұрын

    Wow! Craziness!

  • @brianabercrombie6999
    @brianabercrombie699921 күн бұрын

    I really don’t understand why any organization would have a tournament on Fork without the elite series format….. it makes ZERO sense……

  • @FunkE.Fisherman
    @FunkE.Fisherman21 күн бұрын

    I remember my first derby on a lake with a slot limit.

  • @easttexasfishermanwithstev5108
    @easttexasfishermanwithstev51086 күн бұрын

    Dang what a good net man...lol

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    6 күн бұрын

    Hey I appreciate it😂😂 I'm not bad at all. I always say I'll net everyone of them in a tournament if its the way to win.

  • @user-ki3wp1vb5f
    @user-ki3wp1vb5f22 күн бұрын

    I love fishing lake fork but not in a tournament it’s very frustrating

  • @michaelrheam9575
    @michaelrheam9575Күн бұрын

    CRAZY 🤪

  • @yankeebass1
    @yankeebass121 күн бұрын

    If your not tournament fishing you really don't care about the slot. But in a tournament it sucks. As a Co-angler the last 2 BFL Reginals I caught several fish in the slot and I could of had 12 to 15 lbs for the day but ended up with 0 lbs and 2.5 lbs respectively. Was not fun throwing back 4 and 5 lbs Smallies on Dale Hollow and 2 lb spots on Lewis Smith Lake.

  • @jeremypierce1607
    @jeremypierce160722 күн бұрын

    Lake Fork is a great spot for kayak tournaments though. That slot lends well to the catch, photo, and release length format that we use. But man it can get really crowded.

  • @joshsinglefooter

    @joshsinglefooter

    18 күн бұрын

    MLF also

  • @scottdanielson4816
    @scottdanielson481622 күн бұрын

    That would be so frustrating.

  • @SeeLifeBro
    @SeeLifeBro22 күн бұрын

    If they can't figure out a way to do catch weigh release than they should run it off of inches like a kayak tournament. At least in that scenario you would be going for the biggest limit you could catch.

  • @DanielBoone337
    @DanielBoone33722 күн бұрын

    Yeah man I'm sure you're going to get around to saying it but this is a lake that if you're not using the catch weigh release format in the tournament it's not worth your time and money... unless you live there. Me and my dad fished a little spring time tournament here a few years back because we was in the area. After about 11am we said screw this and just went fishing for the rest of the day. We caught close to 30lbs that day and couldn't use a single one of them. It's an awesome lake definitely up there in my top 3 I like to go to but not for tournaments.

  • @jerrydillard2981
    @jerrydillard298120 күн бұрын

    Iv had this feeling before. Tournaments like this with slots are good for the tournament organizers that hold these tournaments. They draw big numbers of boats because “everyone” feels they have a chance. Really, it’s more of a luck factor of who can catch the right small fish to cash a check. NOT fun for your typical tournament angler that targets bigger fish. Question for you Tod and an idea for a future video. How much do you think it would hurt fork if TPWD removed the slot?

  • @johnnyweaver1300
    @johnnyweaver130021 күн бұрын

    I don't blame you for kinda rules, I wouldn't want fish any tournament with rules!👍

  • @slabbusterrtr7690
    @slabbusterrtr769018 күн бұрын

    Theres too many tournaments to start with in alabama they have them 3 nights a week and everyweekend plus add the local or weekend folks these lakes never get a break

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    18 күн бұрын

    No lakes do, it’s part of “growing the sport”. That last part is me being sarcastic. I do agree no lakes are getting breaks but not really sure if they ever will sort of. They get breaks during winter and bad weather days and a lot of days during the week. Most people don’t see it though cause they aren’t out there.

  • @TideFever

    @TideFever

    5 күн бұрын

    It used to be just Guntersville, Pickwick, and Eufaula... now the entire Coosa Chain is slammed, from February to November. It has gotten unbelievable, the number of tournaments. Sometimes, it feels like "grow the sport" is more like "sell more boats." Keep up the great vids, Todd!

  • @wwp2213
    @wwp221322 күн бұрын

    Why would TXTT even go to Fork knowing how the slot works? I understand BASS and MLF because of catch weigh release but a 5 fish tournament there seems dumb

  • @caseysaunders2137
    @caseysaunders213718 күн бұрын

    Weekend fun fishing anglers win I supppose

  • @rollindawnsteele8027
    @rollindawnsteele802722 күн бұрын

    It's upside-down world now.

  • @mikelembke5121
    @mikelembke512122 күн бұрын

    Texas at lake fork has strict regulations on taking fish home

  • @KyleMast12
    @KyleMast1222 күн бұрын

    So I have to ask, did you down size your rod and line since you are now concerned with catching those little ones and not the big ones? 😜

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    22 күн бұрын

    Unfortunately 😂

  • @joeg1709
    @joeg170920 күн бұрын

    You would lose your mind fishing smallmouth on dale hollow 😅

  • @po8dgz
    @po8dgz21 күн бұрын

    Ever heard of TourneyX? That’s the way to go on slot limit lakes.

  • @Glock-1
    @Glock-121 күн бұрын

    They need to do catch weigh release best 5 bag

  • @user-ft5lw5jj5w
    @user-ft5lw5jj5w21 күн бұрын

    Any thought on what Chris Zaldain did on lake Murray

  • @kevinledford8260

    @kevinledford8260

    21 күн бұрын

    ??

  • @user-ft5lw5jj5w

    @user-ft5lw5jj5w

    21 күн бұрын

    Just a wondering Todd’s perspective on cutting off a local fisherman that’s on a point first because you’re in a tournament. Watch Chris last video and you’ll know what I’m talking about

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    21 күн бұрын

    Yea I'll go watch it, I hope nothing was left out. I've done videos showing certain stuff before but when I do I show all of the video not just a small clip. I'll check it out

  • @user-ft5lw5jj5w

    @user-ft5lw5jj5w

    21 күн бұрын

    @@toddcastledinefishing5924 watch the first video Todd and he only shows the first part of the incident but then he makes a second video to try to explain himself and the you see the whole thing. I have my thought and it’s not in the favor of Chris but I’d like to know yours given your a big time tournament angler thanks

  • @ChronicalsofAl
    @ChronicalsofAl16 күн бұрын

    It's real simple guys. IT IS THE RULES OF FORK, they haven't changed and that's proven to have been a successful formula. Looks like fun to me!

  • @jimmysaltzman1568
    @jimmysaltzman156821 күн бұрын

    What is that green thing on the front deck? Water Gun?????

  • @kurtrindgen4708

    @kurtrindgen4708

    20 күн бұрын

    Prolly a super soaker loaded with dish soap. Disperses pollen on the surface so you can sight fish.

  • @BassKat169

    @BassKat169

    17 күн бұрын

    @@kurtrindgen4708 Exactly what it is.

  • @dustinmassingill5991
    @dustinmassingill599122 күн бұрын

    Had the same problem our first club tournament this year was at Fayette County Lake in Texas and it is a slot like that and we threw back 3 to 5 pounders so we could weigh little tiny fish

  • @ericahlstrom9506
    @ericahlstrom950622 күн бұрын

    Tournaments on slot lakes are zero fun and they don't show who is the best anglers

  • @cjr4497

    @cjr4497

    14 күн бұрын

    Then don't fish them.

  • @ericahlstrom9506

    @ericahlstrom9506

    14 күн бұрын

    @@cjr4497 I don't. I haven't fished a tournament on a slot lake in 15 years.

  • @stevekeen7035
    @stevekeen703522 күн бұрын

    Lol, sounds like you needed a razor blade to the tail of those 16 and a 1/4 to make em fit🫣

  • @richardblake4777
    @richardblake477722 күн бұрын

    Those rules go against common sense ! Don't blame you for forgetting Fork, the best lake in Texas.

  • @JTfishing6130
    @JTfishing613020 күн бұрын

    Slot should be two fish over 15 inch and 3 fish under. Shouldn’t be some giant ass gap all the way to 24 inch.

  • @patrickgazzara3992
    @patrickgazzara399222 күн бұрын

    Is there an end in sight for the regulation?

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    22 күн бұрын

    Probably not

  • @jimcanon4583

    @jimcanon4583

    22 күн бұрын

    Nope

  • @sheldoncaldwell382
    @sheldoncaldwell38222 күн бұрын

    Lake fork can be a blast or it can be the worst lake ever. There is a ton of Dead water in that lake.

  • @scottsnelling1164
    @scottsnelling116422 күн бұрын

    Whats up with the water gun on the deck?

  • @Blue-xf9ry

    @Blue-xf9ry

    22 күн бұрын

    Water with soap in it. Squirt it over the bed to move the pollen away so you can see the fish

  • @coygreathouse1211

    @coygreathouse1211

    22 күн бұрын

    Soapy water to make it easier to see the beds

  • @kwd1253
    @kwd125321 күн бұрын

    😂 todd you got start fish redfish tournaments, to get your mind used to slot limit. Nope, that a 35+lber to big, there goes a 8-10lber.

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    21 күн бұрын

    No joke Red Fishing would drive me crazy because I'd be throwing at those giants😂

  • @timg185
    @timg18522 күн бұрын

    May as well just have a 2 fish limit

  • @seatee4770
    @seatee477012 күн бұрын

    This lake rule is awesome becauae it keeps big fish from being killed sloshing around in tournament boats livewells ! haha

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    12 күн бұрын

    I think you have to put water in the livewell for it to work, maybe that’s what people are doing wrong. They always seem to stay alive in mine for the last 30 years. I might need to do a video on that, I think that might be why they are dying.

  • @seatee4770

    @seatee4770

    12 күн бұрын

    @@toddcastledinefishing5924 Ohhh watah...But maybe you're using a cooling system?? Hmmm?? Maybe your boat is slower than others so they don't get sloshed as much???

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    11 күн бұрын

    Maybe, or maybe I don’t listen to talking heads and go off my 35 years of fishing tournaments

  • @johnm2617
    @johnm261722 күн бұрын

    I would have to drop a hit of acid to fish like that < its mind blowing

  • @MJ_Bass
    @MJ_Bass21 күн бұрын

    This is a lake they should just do kayak style. I’d much rather go by inches vs the stupid slot limit.

  • @chuckwise010
    @chuckwise01022 күн бұрын

    Y’all could fish a normal derb on Fork if you use Ketch boards like the kayak guys. Catch, Photo, Release.

  • @coygreathouse1211
    @coygreathouse121122 күн бұрын

    I hate that lake for tournaments for that exact reason. Miserable. Can’t tell you how many 7-9lbers Ive have to just drop back down into the dang water.

  • @joebaker4208
    @joebaker420822 күн бұрын

    Slot limit on as mature of a lake as Fork....not sure the benefit ? I am sure there are smarter guys than me on the subject that can fill in the reason

  • @toph2o676
    @toph2o67622 күн бұрын

    You can have your FFS I'll take 20 20 eye scope any day

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    22 күн бұрын

    Me too, them eyes 👀

  • @michaeliuliucci2826
    @michaeliuliucci282622 күн бұрын

    He didn’t even need a pic?

  • @westonsherrill1104
    @westonsherrill110421 күн бұрын

    After 20 years you think you would be used to it? I feel your pain but everyone fishing the tournament has to follow the same rules

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    21 күн бұрын

    I get it, but there is a good chance everyone feels the same way. I know a lot of people had the same thing to say.

  • @johnr6025
    @johnr602521 күн бұрын

    I had no idea there was such a screwed-up tournament why don't they just have a raffle or play a game of bingo instead of wasting fuel and fishing all day

  • @ggw7948
    @ggw794822 күн бұрын

    Maybe the reason the lake is so good is because they dont let guys put fish in their livewells every day. Texas parks n wildlife certainly know what they are doing. I wouldnt fish a tournament there either.

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    22 күн бұрын

    I wonder why Toledo and Rayburn are so good and they have more tournaments than any other lake in the country. Oh I know why Nevermind

  • @johnhumphreys9732
    @johnhumphreys973222 күн бұрын

    They should have a tournament on fork for the smallest 5 fish bag! Like fishing Uno!!!

  • @HawgWyldFishing

    @HawgWyldFishing

    22 күн бұрын

    It would be shocking to a lot of people how big that winning bag would still end up being. I’ve fished fork a handful of times and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a fish under 4lbs. All of my top 5 biggest bass are from that lake and I’ve only fished it a handful of times. And I haven’t fished it in well over 10 years now. And I’ve not even come close to any of the 5 biggest bass I’ve ever caught, fishing anywhere else. I’m talking the #5 fish still has 3-4 pounds on the biggest bass I’ve caught outside of that lake.

  • @johnhumphreys9732

    @johnhumphreys9732

    22 күн бұрын

    @@HawgWyldFishing I think you may be surprised because we all want to catch big fish. We never actually try catching the smallest fish we can, tiny baits, hooks spinning reels and fishing places you would never fish with no cover or structure!

  • @jeremyduncan9165
    @jeremyduncan916522 күн бұрын

    Well there won’t be a whole lot of 8 pounders floating days after the tournament is over….

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    22 күн бұрын

    True, of course I don’t see 8 pounders floating around after tournaments we know how to keep fish alive

  • @jeremyduncan9165

    @jeremyduncan9165

    22 күн бұрын

    @@toddcastledinefishing5924 come to the Lake of the Ozarks after a big tournament

  • @ET-sp6qm

    @ET-sp6qm

    21 күн бұрын

    @@toddcastledinefishing5924it’s not rocket science

  • @scottfrost8956
    @scottfrost895621 күн бұрын

    Eh it’s what you signed up for bro

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    21 күн бұрын

    Yea I know, never complained about that, just saying I didn't enjoy it.

  • @BassHead1322
    @BassHead132222 күн бұрын

    What torture, see all the big ones but chasing the littles. Totally backwards from everything you’re used to. Frustration for days.

  • @bobbyswain7049
    @bobbyswain704922 күн бұрын

    To have to Fish for 16s and under on that lake is pure madness....then an 8.3 is short........yeah.........no thx

  • @cjr4497
    @cjr449714 күн бұрын

    Bass don't exist for tournaments.

  • @kylecurlee280
    @kylecurlee28021 күн бұрын

    Click bait game is getting better

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    21 күн бұрын

    Maybe so, but have you seen the nerve I hit with these Lake Fork people. Wow😂😂😂

  • @jenlvjim
    @jenlvjim22 күн бұрын

    Way to much time putting that first fish back

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    22 күн бұрын

    Says who the Bass Dr? 😂😂 These guys

  • @jenlvjim

    @jenlvjim

    21 күн бұрын

    @@toddcastledinefishing5924 sensitive much

  • @nathanklepper7842
    @nathanklepper784217 күн бұрын

    To pay to make a living is crazy........

  • @randyhoobler9654
    @randyhoobler965421 күн бұрын

    FORK SUCKS! Because of the bull💩

  • @ProxyMaestro
    @ProxyMaestro14 күн бұрын

    So your ego won’t allow you to compete within the tournament rules? Don’t enter it’s simple.

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    14 күн бұрын

    My ego won’t let me……..oh wait a minute I did follow the rules and compete. Do your ears and eyes not let you comprehend the video?

  • @joewinkler2168
    @joewinkler216822 күн бұрын

    That's some boring chit watching you guys back sides wile ya scope dem fish 🐟

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    22 күн бұрын

    You know we were sight fishing and not scoping. You do know the difference right?

  • @gumslinger11

    @gumslinger11

    22 күн бұрын

    I guess he'd rather you face the camera and cast backwards 🤷‍♂️

  • @cummins4408

    @cummins4408

    22 күн бұрын

    @@toddcastledinefishing5924 Exactly. This is the dumbest argument ever. They’ve heard someone say it and repeat it as if it had merit now because of FFS. You’ve always watched the backs of anglers when they are fishing on tv!

  • @joewinkler2168

    @joewinkler2168

    21 күн бұрын

    That was a comment from my wife, that knows absolutely nothing about fishing, except that I spend way too much on fishing equipment. She now has seen two of your videos on my kitchen big TV screen. One you were out spinning rod in hand fishing deep scoping , and this one up shallow, bed fishing. Amazed that she recognized you were using two different poles, she remarked that it was boring watching you two guys fishing. I guess it's just one completely unbiased opinion between two completely different types of fishing that was the point I was making.

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    21 күн бұрын

    I’ll dance more next time!

  • @lorithane2006
    @lorithane200617 күн бұрын

    Horrible place to tournament fish !! No fun at all

  • @Kevin-rn7rf
    @Kevin-rn7rf12 күн бұрын

    Seriously Todd, Constant whining

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    11 күн бұрын

    You mean fishing

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    11 күн бұрын

    and cashing checks👍👍👍

  • @cerebraltackle
    @cerebraltackle21 күн бұрын

    THEN DON'T! But, don't screw up an awesome fishery because you're a cry baby. WTAF?

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    21 күн бұрын

    Now I'm gonna fish every tournament on Lake Fork and video it in hopes that everyone goes there and catch fish

  • @cerebraltackle

    @cerebraltackle

    21 күн бұрын

    @@toddcastledinefishing5924 You know I love ya, man! It's just that there's a reason, scientific reason...decades of planning...as to why Fork is what it is. You want to know what painful is? I caught a buzzbait fish that was 1/16 of an inch from being an over! I had to let him go. But, it's what's best for the fishery. 💯👊 If you want real perspective on the subject, talk to Ron! Ron used to work that area for the tourism board...worked with TPWD. He'll give you some facts.

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    21 күн бұрын

    How come OH ivie has been doing better than fork? I’m not smart obviously cause I don’t have a degree in this subject is what I’ve been told. I just ask questions. I know tons of slot lies that aren’t better than regular lakes and vise versa. When I ask a question I’ll get a bunch of excuses. Problem is they don’t fit that narrative. Other factors are way more important than the slot.

  • @cerebraltackle

    @cerebraltackle

    21 күн бұрын

    @@toddcastledinefishing5924 You're wrong. Sorry, but you are. But go ahead...use your minions to serve a personal game and shit on literally decades of hard work. Every bank fisherman will appreciate it. So will the local economy and all those whi DEPEND ON THE JOBS! But hey, Todd can't win there so f everyone else! HOW MANY CENTURY BELTS ON BEND? ONE! HOW MANY ON FORK? 10!!

  • @cerebraltackle

    @cerebraltackle

    21 күн бұрын

    @@toddcastledinefishing5924 But, it's not. Look at study numbers. Again, your opinion doesn't equate to facts.

  • @charlierobertson3432
    @charlierobertson343222 күн бұрын

    I totally understand the frustration, but it is the same for every angler fishing the tournament.

  • @toddcastledinefishing5924

    @toddcastledinefishing5924

    22 күн бұрын

    I know it is, but why do it when there are tons of other lakes you don’t have too

  • @cummins4408

    @cummins4408

    22 күн бұрын

    @@toddcastledinefishing5924Especially if it’s a sanctioned tournament that is planned with the DNR. A lot of ours can be scheduled with them, which I would think could get you a resource officer there for weigh in to make sure they’re released and not kept for the tournament’s sake.

  • @charlierobertson3432

    @charlierobertson3432

    10 күн бұрын

    You never know when you might latch into that once in a lifetime over.

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