Don't know why people act like its some political issue lmao. Not gonna lie I loved Vscode and switched to neovim. After a year I have basically configured neovim to be the same as vscode. Only reason I stick to neovim is I have full control over the editor experience and learn something new everyday about unix commands and automating my development.

@JimCarrey2005

Жыл бұрын

I love spacemacs and neovim, but neither editors make me a much better programmer. I enjoy using them but people act like it’s important. I used to write code in notepad and it was a jolly good experience. Most people who wine about writer choices should be focused on their skill instead.

@exshenanigan2333

Жыл бұрын

"I switched from VSCode to neovim...After a year I have basically configured neovim same as VSCode." Spending a year to get your old editor back is the wisdom I'm looking for.

@dublindynamicdrive

Жыл бұрын

@@exshenanigan2333 you have no idea what you’re talking about. Go this path first and then judge

@justanaveragebalkan

Жыл бұрын

​@@dublindynamicdrive As someone that spent 2 years configuring Emacs i can firmly say....i wasted 2 years of my life, at the end of the day it's an editor and the 1GB of ram is not worth the time invested. Productivity can be achieved with all 3 editor, if one is to learn them

@shailmurtaza9082

10 ай бұрын

@@JimCarrey2005 It looks like haven't worked on large project yet. and still learning. That is why you are saying that people should focus on their skills instead. Good IDE or Text Editor can make you much more productive as dev. So you should also give some time to find IDE which works best for you. It is a long term investment

"12 gigs of ram" Bro i used to be out there running vscode with 4 gigs Can't have vscode and a browser open at the same time

@oussamasoudassi

Ай бұрын

its because you had a ( maybe bugged) plugin which consumes all that memory

@RenderingUser

Ай бұрын

@@oussamasoudassi not in 4 gigs

@eminem992i

25 күн бұрын

One year with 4GB ram run vscode i didn't have any issues at all + I was open discord with it

@RenderingUser

25 күн бұрын

@@eminem992i try opening a browser along with that

slack, vscode, chromium browser, and another electron app you’re working on how many v8 instances would you like to spin up? 😅😅😅

@y00t00b3r

Ай бұрын

>> how many v8 instances would you like to spin up? ALL OF THEM !!

Do whatever works for you man. Neovim is awesome. But different people have different tastes.

@bryanenglish7841

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Everyone should use what makes them a better dev

@mushyclicks2028

2 жыл бұрын

@@bryanenglish7841 i also think fun plays a huge factor. For me, its personally fun to be able to customize my editor however i want it. To be able to know how things work underneath the hood makes you appreciate it even more.

@ravenecho2410

7 ай бұрын

Neovim requires a lot more investment to stand up, just like a package manager on say MacOs or Windows. But I would say it's irrefutable that package managers, virtual environments make your FileSystem 1000% cleaner. My computer still feels virgin clean, I don't have packages I don't need anymore, can delete envs, manage Keychain, manage my versions. If anything I would go the next level and learn Starnix so my environment is cross deployable.

For basic stuff, vscode is fantastic. However neovim takes you closer to the command line, where you usually solve those kind of unique complex problems that no vscode plugin can. And to be fair, that kind of power has a price, neovim isn't easy and nice as vscode for sure. And it breaks sometimes.

@lmnts556

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it just depends what you are doing. vscode for a lot of stuff and neovim if it is terminal heavy or remote heavy.

with Vim, everything is done with keyboard shortcuts - even resizing windows. I don't know if that's the case with VScode with the Vim plugin, or if it just gives you a few standard Vim shortcuts

Vim is goated.

Mine got 8gb ram and if I do jump to declaration in vscode (jumping to the file where this is declared), my pc would die. Yours got extra powers I think.

@HuntingKingYT

Жыл бұрын

My prev computer had 4gb RAM. And Dual Core. 2nd gen intel. I probably have removed any active bloatware, so it would only crash sometimes and was slow, but not that much, since it was a desktop.

@s3ig3playz77

7 ай бұрын

broo guess what i use vscode with a laptop made in 2014 with a celeron cpu built in gpu and 4 gigs of ram

@rishabhbhatnagar6795

3 ай бұрын

do you code in golang by any chance?

@imnemo2327

3 ай бұрын

@@rishabhbhatnagar6795 yeah but I'm still a beginner though

@imnemo2327

3 ай бұрын

@@rishabhbhatnagar6795 how do you know?

I love watching people's workflow videos, because everyones always got something you can pick up and incorporate into yours. LSP support and many plugins would've never happened in nvim if not for VSCode but I definitely have my critiques. VSCode's vim plugin just doesn't hit the same... Input lag galore and less room to configure, it wont cut it. Especially when you're already used to vim. At this point I live in the terminal, with kitty's tab feature, git cli, nvim & hot reload tech on my browser on the 2nd monitor, why add a 3rd window/workspace to my workflow? In saying all this, I don't understand why people editor shame, vim is such a steep learning curve, when you could be spending your time learning a new framework or perfecting your skills on another one... Let people do what they wanna do

Because you’re married and don’t need to pull chicks at Starbucks by looking like a CIA hacker

@bryanenglish7841

Жыл бұрын

LOL

@MightyKingKala

Жыл бұрын

That's true though

@supremeleader5516

Жыл бұрын

lmao

@Leo-xd9et

11 ай бұрын

If anyone believes using NeoVim can get attentions from ladies, they will probably be single forever. 😅

the reason why i use neovim is not because it's lighter, but because i write code faster

just wait till you actually have to work on more than two instances. that charm will fade faster than your Ram

@asgacc8789

6 ай бұрын

I wonder if that's only true for bigger projects? I only code as a hobby and have 3 instances sometimes in a 8gb ram laptop and it runs no problem. Is it because my projects are smaller?

@xijnin

20 күн бұрын

​@@asgacc8789probably because you have less plugins and your lsp server is fast

The only, ONLY reason to ever switch to vim from vscode if you didn't come from vim, is because on large projects, like massive projects, monorepo, vscode become slow, not unusable, but noticibly slow. And that's the only real reason to switch to vim.

@0oShwavyo0

10 ай бұрын

Great keybindings, tons of customizability, runs fast, puts all your tools in your terminal instead of trying to shove a terminal into your text editor - plenty of reasons to switch for those who are interested.

@atxorsatti

10 ай бұрын

@@0oShwavyo0 there's a difference between vim and vim keybindings

@0oShwavyo0

10 ай бұрын

@@atxorsatti that’s why I named other things besides keybindings too. Plus I’ve used plenty of emulations and none are fully featured, because plenty of well known vim functionality comes from popular plugins (vim-surround, for example)

@TheGoodRod

3 ай бұрын

I don’t agree, I have had such headaches getting fully fledged IDEs working as I want. Something I appreciate with neovim distros is that they are usually build with the intention to use without needing a mouse.

@jaideepshekhar4621

Ай бұрын

Try to use vscode in ssh.

Don't start using vim... you will be stuck with it ... no turning back

@lmnts556

Жыл бұрын

Plenty of people have turned back. But having both is good imo, they do different things well.

@vaisakhkm783

Жыл бұрын

@@lmnts556 i have both installed in my system, but only 1 time i opened vscodium in the past year is to check how debug adaptor work in it...

@Solsenderz

7 ай бұрын

I'm using vim for 2 weeks now, can't foking copy paste a line not hitting shift v or anything else ;D

@vaisakhkm783

7 ай бұрын

@@Solsenderz XD You are stuck.. welcome eternal prison...

@Solsenderz

7 ай бұрын

@@vaisakhkm783

I've been more than 20 years in software engineering and when I was younger I took pride on using Emacs. I had plenty of time to tweak the config, memorize the commands and sure I was very productive. But the past few years I don't have time for that I just want to get the job done and I want stuff to work and vscode is perfect for that. I run it one a 8 years old think pad and it runs like a charm.

With my 8gb RAM laptop I can't code on VSCode for too long otherwise code just closes to free RAM or my browser tabs start crashing OR even worse, my laptop starts freezing and sometimes I have to literally shut it down because it will just freeze. And most of the time I just code in TypeScript

@Solsenderz

7 ай бұрын

I noticed when I was using vscode my m1 air 2020 8gb was hot as fuck, but when I switched to vim it's gone.

The pause when saying “twenty twenty… two standards” is so relatable, feels like the years go by so quickly and I have to keep reminding myself it isn’t 2020 anymore.

Hey I respect your choice of text editor, and I really think people should stop gatekeeping text editors, I personally don't really like VSCode but that's just my personal taste, I'm not going around saying it's shit, as long as it works it's good :)

@bryanenglish7841

2 жыл бұрын

Yup exactly. There's been a few devs who trashed my use of VsCode and I just don't understand this weird strain of elitism in the SWE community. It's super toxic and dumb.

@nodidog

2 жыл бұрын

Elitism is as old as software engineering itself. In my experience, the people with the strongest opinions often have the least experience. I do love neovim though, it's fantastic.

@yanononopon

2 жыл бұрын

@@nodidog I totally agree with that. I personally have a little problem with neovim in that it's not very straight forward to parameter. I spent over a week trying to understand how to basically parameter it, and use someone's template config, and I got it working now, but it hasn't been easy. I also waisted some of my working time over that too, and I haven't even been able to setup a debugger yet. I'm not a dev, just a PhD student, but the bulk of my work is still to code and produce results.

@nodidog

2 жыл бұрын

@@yanononopon there isn't really a way to avoid that initial difficulty either - you can use a pre-built config like LunarVim or AstroVim, but you still need to understand the inner workings as soon as you want to customise anything. It's a fairly steep difficulty curve for new users. Vim really starts to shine after months (and years) of continuous use, but I can totally see why it wouldn't work for everyone.

The biggest misconception about vim is, that it only is about predefined keyboard shortcuts. Vim really is about customizing your editor to a degree which vs code will never touch. Vim can be anything but vs code will always be a code editor. If you are fine using vs code do it but keep in mind, that vs code with the vim plugin isn't nearly as great and customizable as vim.

@umop3plsdn

Жыл бұрын

THIS 100%

@samgould8567

Жыл бұрын

I am a 10+ year Vim vet and advocate, and have written plugins that my colleagues have used. That said, Emacs is way better than Vim ever was or Neovim ever will be in terms of customizability. The learning curve is just too steep for most people.

@TVIDS123

6 ай бұрын

Why would you want it to be something other than a code editor though

@RenderingUser

Ай бұрын

​@@samgould8567but emacs is just slower than neovim in exchange

Chill out man. Just use what you want. ✌️

@ryankhart

Жыл бұрын

Isn't that what he's saying? This video is in response to other people who need to chill out.

That's awesome that you use a tool that suites you. But vim's primary advantage is not really the low resource & the editing speed.

I find neovim to be much more useful with plugins because I can just copy over a config folder and have the same exact experience even when I'm SSHing into a remote server to check on something. Setting up the VScode text editing over ssh plugins has always been more hassle for me than just copying a single folder and calling it good

I used vscode for 4 years and then I started to use nvim with powershell,it took 3 hours to configure and it helped me to code faster

Im really on the fence between sticking with vim or jumping ship and heading over to neovim. I dont want to make the switch and regret it in the future. I started finding my groove with vim.

@thatsalot3577

2 жыл бұрын

Neovim is literally same as vim but with extra features and plugins

@eliasgill2453

Жыл бұрын

@@thatsalot3577 technically speaking nop. But your entire vim config file will work exactly in neovim. Neovim has a lot of features that are not in Vim like Lsp, treesitter, a standarized API, native Lua support and new customizations like statusline=3

@umop3plsdn

Жыл бұрын

I really hope you gave neovim a shot. you aren't giving up anything by switching only adding more options with native lsp and lua configuration. I couldn't imagine just using regular vim anymore without treesitter and such

Before I used neovim with plugins to make it like vscode, but now i think using telescope to navigate through files and switch projects using the terminal is just so much faster and convenient i cant imagine myself using a file tree anymore

I feel like "it works" is a pretty low bar xD

@mona.supremacy

10 күн бұрын

"She has a vagina and two legs. She's fine" would be an equivalent of "I use vscode. It works".

Hi everyone ! I respect your choice, the strength of vim, nvim, or lvim is customizations, included shortcuts (keymaps) , able to import any plugin you want, both work well, it’s just vim is a simple text editor and you have to build it. Each one is free to use what he wants 🙂

Give a try for vim motions in vs code u will get benefits of vim with ur normal text editor interactions

12 gigs of ram is not small at all. It can probably even run intellij. Vim is more for people who work with 4 gigs or lower. Also servers. Faster lite and smaller and I don't worry about my window manager breaking all the time which it does most of the time.

@srivathsansudarsanan3372

Жыл бұрын

@@nnn_367 all my computers are 4 gb and below. And vscode is a nightmare in that. The javascript engine is huge and bulky.

@justanaveragebalkan

Жыл бұрын

​@@srivathsansudarsanan3372 Where do you even find a computer with less then 4 GB in 2023 !? Also as of writing this i have 6 tabs open, VS Code with the debugger on and the application running on total files in the current project are 3425. Not getting any bigger then that and my memory is at 4.5 GIB (I run Linux). Perhaps you should consider writing more efficient code, because the ram argument often comes from web developers, that truly stand by let me include this thing for left pad something something, 1 GB package.

Feels like neovim extension in vscode is a little buggy.

I used to use vs code before. I switched to neovim and it honestly changed my life. RAM, Disk space are irrelevant. It's the keybindings that are a life changer.

I'm a simple man. I prefer the VIM way of editing texts, but man, I don't really have the patience to learn how to customize neovim just to be able to reach the almost the same experience VSCode gives me from the start. So, I just add the VIM extension to VSCode, and I do the same stuff for the JetBrains IDEs.

@Solsenderz

7 ай бұрын

I spent 2 weeks to set it up, to remember some stuff, and it's really great thing.

Curious how fast can vscode open a large file vs vim?

@pluraltest9242

Жыл бұрын

Vscode to me always felt slower than neovim.

I do agree, use whatever is best for you. But in this video idk sounds like you're saying neovim/vim doesn't work or something lol and isn't for normal people.

Use whatever that works for you, everyone have different approach when coding, But just so you know "Skill Issue"

How the hell are you copying like normal with the vim extension?

you can run vscode normally on a dual-core laptop?

@bryanenglish7841

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, works like a charm. The only time it ever slows down is if I'm playing youtube. Understand that I'm using Linux Mint w/Cinnamon, which requires far less resources than Windows.

@alexandersuvorov2002

Жыл бұрын

@@bryanenglish7841 Jesus Christ, you need 12 GB to run a text editor?! OMG

the thing is it doesn''t work like freaking charm, the vim motions plugin I mean, they suck

I'm all for everyone using the tool that's best for them, vscode is fine! I personally prefer nvim because I've got it tied to a nix flake so I can easily run nvim on any machine, whether i'm ssh'd into a headless remote server, tunneling into a docker container, or just working locally, it's always the same experience. But with remote development tools getting better and better these days, that may not be an issue for everyone!

Tbh nvim is not used because of not bloated, I use like 35 plugins, it's used because it's fast, it's native, vscode runs in chromium technically. It doesn't load so quickly when you open it, nvim loads faster, you can customise it as you like it. You can't customise vscode much. Also I use i3 10th 1th gen lol, with 12 GB. But I think you should check out zed once also.

Neovim and all the goodies is such a PITA to set up on windows. And don’t even get me started with WSL. What junior developers have to realize is that at some pint you just have to use the tools that work to get the job done. Your boss isn’t going to give you 3 weeks to setup your pretty little environment. If vscode is what works then use that.

@jonforhan9196

Жыл бұрын

I use neovim on my Linux desktop but would never run it on my windows machine. I use VSCode and CLion if I’m on windows. I 100% agree that [neo]vim don’t work well with NT, powershell is sh*t so I don’t even wanna be in the terminal anyway

@r0yce

Жыл бұрын

I am a hardcore neovim, emacs user. If youre not using nvim on linux, I'd probably try to sell it to you. But even I use VS code in windows. Under no circumstances would I try anything else. (Free JetBrains stuff I guess). Also I am the kind of guy who lives in the terminal but when I use windows I wouldnt even touch the command line.

@leodinogibbon

11 ай бұрын

Well no one in their right mind will try to do that on the windows anyways 😔

@ipwnjo

7 ай бұрын

Why not? It works great in spite of Windows being less quick than most Linuxes I've tried. With Msys2 you even get to install most Linux software

Yeah, I have been doing the same for a while. I am switching back to Nvim mostly because I like more the cli workflow with tmux not because the experience on VSCode is bad. And also because I am vain and I like more the look of a well configured Nvim.

I use VSC and VIM and terminal and G edit and Notepad ++

I hate Vscode because every time I try to run any code with it, it just doesn’t work

@ChrisCox-wv7oo

Жыл бұрын

Then something is wrong.

@HerzhaTheShapeshifter

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisCox-wv7oo Yes, something is wrong, and that thing is VSCode

@fotnite_

Жыл бұрын

@@HerzhaTheShapeshifter I think the problem might be with you, then. Entirely depends on what kind of code you're running on it, but it has an integrated terminal just like nvim does and you can always use that as well and it'll work the same way.

@mattatta

Жыл бұрын

It's probably the way you have it configured/your machine. There's a reason so many use it -- it just works

@justanaveragebalkan

Жыл бұрын

Maybe the code doesn't work because you're more concerned with your editor then your code. Just saying.

Yes, and I'm looking to get sponsored by Microsoft!

Not a powerful one by 2022 stds? Wow 💀 my machine is a toaster 😂

VSCode w/ vim has changed my workflow completely. Wayyy more productive, I feel like.

is it a troll, I can't even tell.

2020 .... *Load year* ... 2 ❤😂

vs code is definetly bloated in some ways, but it can run absolutely any hardware, i dont use it but i had ran it on my celeron 420, 1.6ghz only 1 core and 2gb of ram

I won't consider 12 gigs of ram as Less.

@harshwardhanshetty4683

Жыл бұрын

My new company sent me 32gb ram 😂

@nicholaswatching

Жыл бұрын

Yeah 12 gb ram is definitely not less

but its slow but i still like it

AMEN.

So you use vscode because you like vim?

Not to be that guy but isnt the reason neovim doesnt work for you just that you havent configured it and added plugins?

Yeah, I used to use VS Code because I had a setup that worked, but tried making the switch to NVim because my laptop (6 core, 12 thread, APU ThinkPad) was freezing up, and I thought there might've been a bug in the release which was the cause (I doubt it was by this point, as I've still had instances of it freezing up since... I believe this may be a thermal throttle/power issue, as they keyboard gets rather hot, so no need to worry about it causing issues for you...). Once I realised how simple putting together a comfortable setup in NVim is though, with a clipboard provider and streamlined plug-in support, I still haven't gone back, as I've come to find the command oriented interface, and using buffers over tabs and the terminal panel, to be more comfortable and manageable for me... even setting up my own shortcuts to Git commands, resulting in similar functionality to VS Code's version control integration... So absolutely, the people decrying VS Code for being bloated, are pretty much plain bullshitting a reason to do so... Vim-derivative editors provide a whole slew of genuinely interesting functionality, which is what you should actually consider if you were looking for a reason to try them, and find any of them appealing... but never count the idea of your current editor/IDE being _"bloated"_ among reasons to do so...

It works, until it doesn't! VSCode

"because I don't want to" should be enough of a reason...

what do you mean copy like a normal person? I yank from nvim to my system clipboard all the time.. but whatever you do you..

@johnysalas

Жыл бұрын

It's not about performance though. I use Neovim on a m1, it could be any other editor. It is more about the personal experience, and in that sense use what better works for you

Vim looks cooler

there is a reason why coder who uses NeoVim and Emacs are better than VsCode coder

Live grep, find files, access to shell, take, harpoon

who gives a fak about 1 or 2 GB RAM or 1 or 2 threads in 2023? Neovim isn't about saving resourses (only). It's about having control over and customizing your development process.

mmm looks like its an emacs lite clone

Because you don't habilites for neovim, kinds stay with you vscode, never you gonna be better

Sounds like you find 30fps in gaming all what you need as well.

Man, the best thing you have to say about VSCode is that it doesn't brick your computer?

@TVIDS123

6 ай бұрын

Clearly not what he said. He's countering a point used by the vim community. He said he uses what works for him. He prefers it because it acts like other text editors that he uses, and he can add vim commands if he wants. Listen to the video

Well VSCode wastes a lot of resources for what it does but it’s true that on a modern machine it’s not a problem. I bet all others popular full fledged IDEs consume a lot more.

vscode has an amazing remote usecase, you know how these loser vimmers always talk about the ubiquity of vi, well I never cared because I use emacs and I can use remote editing in it, having my own configuration working with the remote repo, while they have to settle for vanilla vi. well, VSCode kills emacs on this, the remote feature is amazing.

I just can't get past the idea of configuring things before you can dig into the meat. Also I like bleeding-edge and using the Astro VSCode extension. Guess what Neovim has to offer.

If u had 4gigs of ram, you'd go nvim with a thought.

let me tell u guys chromium is shit, change my mind.

I am in shock that you didn't start video telling us that you are in your garage, tending to your new Lamborghini.

@bryanenglish7841

Жыл бұрын

I drive an Audi. I don’t have Lambo money…yet.

@snake3837

Жыл бұрын

@@bryanenglish7841 ​ Haha :D Wish you the best :D

vscode uses half of the time and effort to load

once you realize how much you can configure neovim to transcend vs code in all areas including linting even bypassing folding into literally code concealing and literally endless integrations like lazyloading and statusline manipulation even lazygit. jeez louise i don't think i could even be a quarter as productive in vs code as i am in nvim. I literally feel like a god doing 800 things in the push of a button. i can't even describe how much more you can do. YES the setup is a real pain in the wazzooo BUTTTTT once you get it done it's literally worth the trouble. name one thing you can do better in vs code and it's actually better in nvim hands down you just aren't aware of the plugin or config yet. I used to think vs code was just better too until i actually tried configuring nvim. but i guess i'm a tinkerer at heart and hate out of the box solutions prob why I run arch

@samgould8567

Жыл бұрын

Code concealing is something that Emacs has had since the 80s and works in every type of buffer. And Magit is the best git porcelain by far. Plus it can render graphical content such as HTML docs, PDFs, even interactive widgets for Jupyter notebooks. I think you should give it a try. Way more customizable than nvim.

@justanaveragebalkan

Жыл бұрын

Let see, it's going to be a long list but the comment has a limit so i will add just a few since you wanted just one. First, look at the fucking image that's in the project, have you had to add an icon in the application (excuse the language) yeah, when there are 50 files, it's so much productive to open your file manager and navigate to the folder to see the icons. (Blazing fast) With vs, you just click on it and it opens (magic) Issue N2: Remove navigation, good luck ssh with neovim or vim anywhere, if you want to transfer your environment you have to clone it on the other end, (You're probably doing it wrong with both if you need IDE on the server so i am inclined to leave this one hanging, still impossible with neovim) Issue N3 There is this thing memory profiling, i know that web developers don't care about stuff since you guys inject a package for left pad that's 1GB big and has 245951293 vulnerabilities with it, but some people actually care about their programs not the editor that they use so profiling tools are the bane of all evil and we need them. I am not saying it can't be done, you can technically profile a memory leak in the terminal, but we can technically build websites in assembler but because technically its possible doesn't mean it should be done. Issue N4 Debugging, yes while you can debug with neovim, the experience is much poorer then what you get just out of the box with vs code basic things like enabling/disabling just my code, or debugging internal projects from a single instance is basically not existent there. Issue N5 Pair programming, while possible with neovim, using a reverse shell not really the best experience so to say, vs code there is a clear winner Issue N6 How about life preview of the things that you're working on, can you render your app/website/game in the editor (cause emacs and vscode) can do it. Issue N7 No scope searching, if a file that you're currently in is a project and you try to search for a file that's in another scope it just doesn't work. With vs code as slow as it is (not really) can search multiple projects at the same time and get you the result. I know that this comment sounds mostly negative, but it's not meant to be, i am just saying that for every good thing in neovim there are bad things and it's not the thing that will solve all your issues. It's a workflow that you get used to, and we all as people should strive to do better instead of saying x is better then y as there will be always something that is better than the other in some aspect. I use both and i can't say that one is better than the other, but if we are going to sit here and preach the mindless words of few twitch streamers and KZread guys that don't have anything better to do with their life than milking gullible people for money are we really making progress as people and in our career or we are actually becoming what we are calming to solve by optimizing our workflow at the end of the day. Just use whatever makes you go fast, if it's nano go black and white and write it brother.

Just use VSCodium lmao

2 instances of what? I’m running better hardware than that and as soon as I open our enterprise projects vscode starts wheezing.

Cuz it has 12g Ram

Honestly use whatever works best for you.

Everyone so defensive about their workflow whenever anyone asks "Why?" in either direction of IDEs or Vim/Emacs. Ultimately the only answer needed is "I like it and I can get my work done." Not saying you're overreacting, because I'm sure the comments are deafening, but it's just funny that we've reached this point. No matter what your workflow is, there's someone out there that's going to claim their workflow is better.

@walkeralexander3115

Жыл бұрын

@iMagUdspEllr If that's what you value, then go for it! If I've learned anything about developer workflows in my career, it's that you can be successful with a wide-range of workflows. The great sage @teej_dv got it right when he said: > "It turns out the software development world is big enough to for people to have different opinions, different desires, different definitions of fun -- and that's okay!" kzread.info/dash/bejne/g4GKq6yhc5y8lco.html

@fotnite_

Жыл бұрын

@@imagudspellr1644 "What works better" _depends entirely on the person_ though. You aren't in their head, you can't possibly know what the "only acceptable answer" is. If VSC is what works the best for you, then you should use it. You can talk all you want about fighting with the editor, but understand that other people might be doing things different from you. To people that are used to their nvim config, using VSC is like constantly fighting the editor. It's fine if that's your experience, but you're acting like this is an _objectively universal_ experience that _everyone has_ when that is just not true. This comment section is filled with people shitting on bryan for _not_ using nvim, surely you can see how silly that is. So why do you do the exact same thing?

VS code with vim motions is 😚👌🏼

Neovim is superior

@bryanenglish7841

5 ай бұрын

This vid from a while ago, I’m back on neovim currently!

the argument for using neovim over vscode is very rarely bloat, bloat is a dumb argument. has to do with ergonomics, the fact it's FOSS, productivity and such. try again

🏳️‍🌈?

So true. The vim echo chamber is so weird. Few youtubers straight up mock people who don't use vim. That also in their own videos where they are teaching vim to new users. Very few tutorials where the tutor is not trying to sell you the religion of vim. 🤣🤣

VSCode is pretty crappy and bloated especially with the telemetry imo but nobody is stopping you from using what's better in your opinion. In the end what an IDE should do is read/write files, and maybe provide fancy intellisense and autocomplete. VSC and NVim both can do that, so who cares?

i’ve used TextMate, SublimeText, VS Code, and now finally NeoVim. They’re all great and none of them will stand in your way of being learning or working :)

This video is sponsored by VSCode

Sinner loll jk

12 gigs of ram not powerful I code in pentium with just 2 gigs of RAM VSCODE SUCKS

@ianguarin9773

8 ай бұрын

RAM isn't expensive. You can save so much time and therefore money not optimising your toolset and computer buy just spending 30 bucks on 8 gigs.

Nicely said!

Use neovim

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Cringe spyware

it's because you're a lgtvzzzzz i use nvim btw

Use whatever editor makes you happy and makes you sit down and code. If this is vsc, fine. If this is nvim, fine. If this is emacs, fine.

Heresy...... Just kidding

@bryanenglish7841

3 ай бұрын

I've already gone back down the neovim black hole. New vid soon.

Yeah 12gb of ram not a powerful maching

‘I’m a software engineer, I want something that works’. Man, the level of absurdity here is phenomenal. Where’s connection between the two parts of this sentence?

@darmoed_phantorm

Жыл бұрын

VS code with vim motions is 😚👌🏼

They are tools with incomparable workflows. VSCode is awesome in his way, Neovim is awesome too but in his way, the fact is they are very different. Use that is best for your workflow. The elephant in the room is trying to make nvim behavior like vscode, I believe if you are pursuing this my friend, you don’t understand vim. Absolutely agree with the video.