I yelled in my car when he said he called the cops on the child sex abuser . That’s awesome !

@happix-mo4441

6 ай бұрын

YESSSSS 🎉

@lamoskgr

6 ай бұрын

Same!

@TheRealLesGutches

6 ай бұрын

​@@Cocoisagordonsetter Nick's Personal Molestation story doesn't check out. (copied from another post) 1. The Young Men's President and the Scout Master have always been two different callings. Not one and the Same. 2. The Young Men's President and the Scout Master would have only Dealt with Kids over the Age of 12. 3. Nick would have been 8 years old at the time this happened. (According to his timeline) He would have been a brand new Cub Scout. 4. The church did not allow sleepovers for kids that age. The 11 year old kids had one overnight camp, and that involved having the fathers there. Nick is a Narcissist and a fraud. Do some math on this kid.

@jackieaudus9829

6 ай бұрын

One of the best I’ve seen, this man’s’ heart …

@tinman3586

5 ай бұрын

That goes even beyond Mormonism, I DO NOT understand why sex offenders are so often hidden by organizations, religious or otherwise, and even when turned in to law enforcement, are often given such light sentences.

"The fact that a woman comes into my ward every week who doesn't have two pennies to rub together and she pays $8, y'all, in tithing. And here's the problem: She writes $8 on the tithing slip but there's $11 in the envelope because she can't even count it. It's not ok to rob these poor people when you have hundreds of billions of dollars and it only cost half a billion dollars a year to operate the entire church. I've read the Widow's Mite Reports. It doesn't cost a fraction of what they gain in interest in a quarter to operate the entire church and to build all the temples that ol' Rusty wants to build. ... It makes me angry that we are robbing these people and telling them they are going to be blessed. It's not ok." -Nick Jones

@colby2027

6 ай бұрын

So many powerful quotes on this episode!

@melanie9369

6 ай бұрын

I think about that all the time as a never mormon. My brother married a woman whose mother was a practicing mormon. When her husband died she gave thousands to the church and she's 65+ and still having to work. She needed that money as a single person. She can't afford to live on her own and still giving them money. It's nuts.

@nnacroon7356

6 ай бұрын

📣📣

@Cocoon68

6 ай бұрын

And I’m sure this lady isn’t the only one! It’s such a scam in this church that we are taught that this is the LORDS SACRED FUNDS! Yet cedar creek mall was built in tithing funds! Oh but they will say the interest of the investments built it.. WHAT DOES IT MATTER? It’s all the Lords Money!!

@anneford4758

6 ай бұрын

Don’t be weird

I left the LDS Church because of my Bishop. There was a homeless member of the ward who had been attending for multiple years. Since NOBODY in the ward saw fit to help one of their brothers in christ, i took it upon myself to start an emergency aid fund. I offered up $200 as a first deposit, which was 3/4ths of my paycheck at the time because I was working for minimum wage. I told the Bishop that i knew most members of the ward offer weekly tithes that amount to more than that, and if everyone contributed just ONE tithe to the emergency aid fund, we could provide our homeless ward member with permanent shelter. The Bishop refused, but offered to accept my $200 as a tithe to the Church. I was so shocked that i didn't even take my money back. I just got up and walked out, and never went back.

@marshapieroni6677

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing this story. That had to be hurtful and eye-opening for you. I don't know much about the Mormon faith but I'm learning.

@Lindsey0007

4 ай бұрын

This is horrifying. Why don’t they help people? It’s heartbreaking.

@Justme_1221

4 ай бұрын

Wow, that’s so sad.

@sharinmythoughts2510

4 ай бұрын

Wow 💔

@wajo0505

4 ай бұрын

When people tithe…there are several programs/categories that your tithing can be used for (i.e missionary work, buildings etc. Iʻm thinking you can also write in…where you want your tithe to GO. BUT usually, the Bishop and his counselor/s decide where the $$ is needed. The church has an excellent Social Services program that can TEMPORARILY offer assistance w/housing/shelter costs, food and clothing, counseling…among other things. You schedule an appt with the Bishop and based on your needs, the Bishop will refer you to work w/the Relief Society or the Elderʻs Quorum. Itʻs not the churches responsibility to be responsible and finance any one with their temporal needs. BUT I know their programs because…they helped me…at one point in my life. Every Bishop is different. Some may be more compassionate than others. The wards are comprised of members who live in the area… that may or may not be as compassionate as well. Iʻve been to many wards w/good Bishops, counselors and members. The church has excellent programs for the adults, the youth and the children. If you felt the beed to help this homeless person…GOOD FOR YOU. BUT…donʻt expect others to feel the same. You could advocate for him outside of the church to the many homeless services available. You could pool your resources w/others that are willing to assist this individual. Iʻm sure that Ward was able to help that individual w/some NOT…ALL his needs. Does he have family or friends that can help. Did he apply for State aid? Any homeless shelters in the area? We should never expect ANYONE to totally support us and our responsibilities to take care of ourselves. The less fortunate should be encouraged and given opportunities to be self sufficient..

Back when Covid hit, I had to close down my home daycare, and I went to ask the church to help me with on my mortgage, and the bishop that is my brother (biological brother) said NO....he said if the church paid for it I would most likely come back to get help....that was painful to me, I was so embarrassed and did not know how fast to run away, that little still voice spoke to me and said to be silent....I looked at my brother and said, ok, and walked away, and never went back. My brother being a leader doesn't even call our mother, nor does he come to visit her....but when it comes to what we should do with her, his response was to put her in a home....I've been going through a very spiritual awakening....and I am glad that I walked away, and haven't looked back...

@barbaralael5092

2 ай бұрын

I had an in home daycare. I often watched children for free for women in my ward who were visiting teaching. After leaving and getting disfellowshiped no LDS friends. My X did pornography. Was shocked. Very little sex. No intercourse because he didn't want more children. We had 4. So still having "feelings" for being attractive I wrote to a prisoner. It was discovered. I was shamed to the core. I didn't feel loved. We divorced. I divorced him. I'm in a better place. I'm now 73. The kids are adults and are my friends. I have a loving husband and a dog and a cat who love me a lot.

@John-uo2bx

Ай бұрын

The cult does not bring families together it separates them.

@pickle1200

Ай бұрын

I have a lifelong friend that is Mormon. She has struggled with mental health and drug issues. She has been clean now for 4 years and the church helped. For me, our friendship (with the church involved) feels the same as when she was doing drugs on the street except I'm not sick with worry that she will be found dead somewhere. I miss our friendship so much but I'm also so proud of her and her progress I guess I will watch from afar and just cheer her on.

@cartergomez5390

Ай бұрын

Wow! Such an evil religion.

@foxibot

29 күн бұрын

That’s horrible. And he will hopefully regret that, he didn’t help his own family, when all Jesus did was preach about helping widows, and their children the sick and elderly and poor and lonely, and disabled, even people in prison he said to visit them and help them, anyone that needed help. He told the hypocrites “I do not know ye for what you habe done to the lest of my people you have done to me”:He would have been furious at your brother like he was at the hypocrites for denying and neglecting his flock. He said to them I do not know ye! Jesus gave examples of who needed the help the most, that the hypocrites did not help. Because they were selfish and full of themselves so Jesus let them know they would not be in his kingdom with him for cruelly ignoring them. My friends were LDS and they had no food in the house to feed 5 little girls, one a baby, and the others 3, 5, 7, & 8 so I bought sacks and sacks of groceries and surprised them after their stupid bishop asked them to wait 4 days. With no food for those sweet children. He knew they had nothing left but oranges and graham crackers. Which they ate for supper. And I said to my ex, those children and our friends won’t suffer on my watch, I’m helping them and you can do nothing! He actually introduced me to them, he had know them since they were teens. And to think he wouldn’t even help those little angels disgusted me or help his friends. My friend cried when I showed up. I felt horrible, the kids just started attacking the bags, and getting food. I wrote down things she had said she needed and increased it by a whole bunch. I wish I had been there to offer you help and support. I’m sorry you had to endure that and one day I think that church is gonna fall down. John never likes to say it’s a cult, but it is a very rich cult, who took from their most vulnerable. My friends I helped had given them a lot of their inheritance they received when I begged them to save it for their children and a rainy day. I never asked but I think the church received the bulk of it and then didn’t help them! They could have saved or invested the money! Instead the church greedily invested it! I truly think the church of LDS will one day fall. Scientology is falling and they say LDS and Scientology are a lot alike, but LDS is smarter about advertising, and keeping their secrets, but now with the internet we see what they do! This is no Jesus Christ like compassion they show. They revere a huckster grifter Joe Smith as a God, who believed in the occult. It hurts me to hear you got hurt.,

The most important thing I have heard in years: “There’s power in us. Period. They are trying to take it from you and tell you that they gave it to you.” Wow. Thank you for sharing. Beautiful wisdom.

@happix-mo4441

6 ай бұрын

For sure, I was thinking, "mic drop!"

@styphlynne8253

6 ай бұрын

Right? how many times Ive heard god_lives - jesus_forgives & the devil made me do it. STOP passing the buck! OWN your strengths - Its as simple as cause & effect. LOVE & be loved

@lilknish

6 ай бұрын

CAN I GET A HELL YEAH?!

@utuberhoda

6 ай бұрын

@@lilknish you can have over 150 billion of them!!!

@styphlynne8253

6 ай бұрын

@@lilknish HELL YEAH

Margi is such a great cohost. She is so thoughtful and asks great questions.

@kajsaberlin-kaufusi226

6 ай бұрын

Agreed!

@kevinm9246

6 ай бұрын

She really has grown into it beautifully.

@brittina1

6 ай бұрын

I LOVEEEEE MARGI TOO! ♥️ Her perspective is so important

@aushabock288

6 ай бұрын

All episodes with Margi are my favorite ❤

@gloriamosby7527

6 ай бұрын

She is delightful all things good ❤

Great discussion. My wife and I along with 4 of our 5 children left parted ways with the LDS church a little over one year ago. Our love for others has increased in ways I never knew was possible. We love life and we now love others the way Christ taught. Thank you all for your bravery. Our prayers are with you.

@ValerieGriner

5 ай бұрын

Beautiful story. I'm glad you still have Jesus Christ. He IS the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE.

@lilolmecj

5 ай бұрын

Mad respect! Our neighbors for 24 years were Mormon for the entire time until maybe 2019, they never said anything when they left the church, we found out when my daughter ran into the husband/dad at the local bar!😸 They have always been great neighbors, still are. They are much more noisy now when they have parties, but not loud enough to be annoying. Two of our children spent a lot of time there, our daughter had an enormous crush on one son, maybe even loved him. But in order to date he asked her to meet with his Bishop and there is no way that girl will fit into anyone’s box. Congratulations on your freedom.

@notnow7973

4 ай бұрын

Wonderful. Godspeed.

@kimhorner2276

3 ай бұрын

In​@@lilolmecj

@Panther546

29 күн бұрын

@@michaelgiles7844 God bless you keep fighting the good fight.

I remember the first day I went to work that I wasn’t wearing my garments, I thought for sure I would get in a wreck and my business would fail now because I wasn’t wearing my white Ninja suit underneath my clothes. I ended up not getting in a wreck and dying on the road and to this day it was by far my highest sales day. It’s been 4 years now I’m still trying to deconstruct the belief system I was brought up in. The hard part is I love the people and friends and it’s tough when they still try and tell me not to give up on God. Newsflash! Just because I’m not active in the church nor go to a church does it mean I gave up on God! I’m closer now to God now than I ever felt going to church. I think living your truth and seeing the church through the outside of it opens your eyes to how crazy it all is. I relate to Nick and Amanda on how your heart aches but you’re free finally.

@wesdean1977

3 ай бұрын

"White Ninja Suit" that is the perfect term LM(Friggin Butt)O

It is so rare for even exmormon men to admit that big callings feel special and that it made them feel good and important. It’s the unspoken thing you don’t hear said out loud a lot.

@bodytrainer1crane730

6 ай бұрын

💯

@evelyncurtis9584

6 ай бұрын

Not only that, but as I deconstructed, I realized that everyone serves in the church to receive recognition and significance. You cannot convince me that not one person is seeking the validation from someone that they look up to, or consider a superior. People will say that they do it for God, because that's what we're taught to say. It's hypocritical though, because they're just not being honest with themselves. God is abstract. We really have nothing to prove his existence as being an involved, loving father who created our spirits. Now, in not saying that these people are bad, wicked, or whatever... I'm just saying it's human. It's time we all start being honest with ourselves.

@trevorlanning4350

6 ай бұрын

You do realize that do this have a belief in God? I can see how this is abstract to you, maybe you don't believe or have other circumstances. But for those with actual belief we have a desire to work and serve our Lord. My father has no say in what I do and I don't care what others think. I only do what I do for myself and the be my best self before God.

@andrewmorgan4510

6 ай бұрын

@@trevorlanning4350have you served a mission Trevor?

@trevorlanning4350

6 ай бұрын

@@andrewmorgan4510 I am about to.

This is one of the most important things I've witnessed in my 64 years. Wow. Thank you. Plus, I had a personal connection with the man in this story who took his own life. This guy is telling the truth.

@justkiddin84

6 ай бұрын

Oh man. I’m so sorry for your loss-and the loss of him to the rest of us. It’s so hard, whether it’s a loss to a crime, drugs, suicide. Cut short and the waves spread out away from it out across the world. ♥️

Beloved Nick and Amanda, I am an 80 year old woman born and raised in the church, attended BYU and married a non married man who the church brought in from another country. After three children and in wanting them to learn about God, I only fell onto their other side. I won’t go into details, but when the church dropped me from a Mormon in good standing to one who was a lost soul I lived what I called two years of a dark night of the soul. After that time I know I was free to live my life as a free soul. You will realize the path you took is the beginning of freedom and finally happiness. Keep moving forward…find your joy and stand tall and walk proud. Much love being sent your way.

@Vetionarian

4 ай бұрын

So you're 100% at peace with dying without faith?

@shoepanda

4 ай бұрын

@@Vetionarian Consider that this person is going forward in life with a faith that is more confident, rewarding, and sustaining. Not sure what your comment is based in. I hope it's a genuine question and not something negative meant to tear down an internet stranger who has shared her personal experience.

@gointothedogs4634

4 ай бұрын

I'm sorry you had to go through that but I believe Spirit has a hand in everything, to keep us on our soul's true path.

@marshapieroni6677

4 ай бұрын

​@@shoepandathank you

@nickie9613

21 күн бұрын

Your message is so beautiful, it gives me chills. If people could wake up. In fact, it is high time for Jesus to return because there are too many false religions and too many wars over these false religions. Yes now you are a free soul and I'm so glad for you ❤❤❤

I am in my 70's and we left the church officially 9 yrs ago. I gain so much when I take the time to listen to these stories. Luckily , for us our 7 children (born 1976-1984) also left at the same time so we had support but it is a difficult and rewarding even this late in life. Thank you for your bravery and honesty it is uplifting. Our son in law was a bishop in Memphis when he resigned, I understand your pain. We paid tithes when we couldn't afford shoes our kids needed, and I am angry that it took us so long to see the truth but we are now thriving

@pettytubeyou

5 ай бұрын

Good thing you defied the law of tithing and are now living the gospel as you see fit!! What a special thing that must be to have created the gospel according to you!

@alannahmay3823

5 ай бұрын

I remember paying tithes when my kids needed things. I feel so bad about it now.

@user-bv3ns9iq5z

5 ай бұрын

Major respect that he’s real about it

@joanoflondon

5 ай бұрын

Also 70 and feel the freedom after 40 yrs being LDS. To help others as I continue my new beginning I make a monthly pledge to a charity which rescues gay children who were tossed out by their families, became addicted to drugs, or who are running from abuse and living off the street. They are given a chance to finish school, get a job, eat healthy food, receive a warm place to live and free counselling. Also “kids help phone”. I try to give to them as they talk to children 24/7 who are attempting suicide or are abused and have no where or no one to talk with. I’m not rich but instead of paying tithing to a billion dollar LDS company, I know I can help the troubled youth who are the future of this world. Trust me many are LDS children or from other such religions who are disposed of or shunned because they don’t fit the mould. Every penny helps. Thank you for sharing…

@anonymousone9699

5 ай бұрын

@@joanoflondonyou should share the name of the organization so that people can check them out and maybe even support, this is a noble cause truly. Thank you for sharing

I was born in the church, baptized at 8, seminary graduate, RM & married in temple. Left the church 43 years ago. Still deconstructing. Nick’s story helped me. MSP helps me. Thanks to you all.

@juliehatch9861

6 ай бұрын

MSP? what is this?

@robinsmith1218

6 ай бұрын

Mormon Stories Podcast.

@alstewart6870

6 ай бұрын

I pray you don’t give up on the biblical Jesus, don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater….😢

@SC-ie5bm

6 ай бұрын

@@alstewart6870 Biblical Jesus’s sermon on the Mount are words I live by. These ethical and moral guidelines make it impossible for me to: (1) Follow Mormon “prophets” or “apostles” who caused the church to be fined by the SEC; (2) be an evangelical Christian because they believe in a false prophet named Donald Trump; or (3) be a Republican anymore because they violate every ethical and moral teaching of Jesus’s beatitudes. I would not build a wall. I would make a longer table to share the blessings I have as an American with the hungry, the naked, the poor and those less fortunate. Sadly, many so-called “Christians” are the antitheses of the Biblical Jesus’s teachings. They draw near to Him with their lips but their hearts are far from Him. “Christians” today are some of the most judgmental and disgusting people on this planet. In fact, most religious people today are very poor examples of Biblical Jesus’s teachings. Sad to say it.

@GailOwens

6 ай бұрын

​@alstewart6870 God bless you.

Nick, when you said Korea, I wondered if we lived in the same area. I was about your age. My family was in Korea between ‘85-‘90. Then you mentioned your abuser’s name and my jaw dropped. I clasped my hand over my mouth. We were in the same branch together. Thank you for sharing your Mormon story and having the courage to follow your moral compass here. Best wishes to your family moving forward with your newly found freedoms. Sounds like you have already experienced more genuine connections and love with the world and the people in it. ❤️

@m0nkeytail327

6 ай бұрын

❤

@user-gi1es3fe2u

4 ай бұрын

VERY INFORMATIVE. THANK YOU! One of my brother's was a High Priest and another brother was a Bishop. They never had much to do with me. Both are now deceased! I tried to tell them about Jesus Christ of the Bible; Far different than the Mormon Jesus!

@user-gi1es3fe2u

4 ай бұрын

Dear Nick and Amanda ; For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten SON, that Whosever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. JOHN 3: 16 That if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised HIM from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto Salvation. ROMANS 10: 9 & 10. LOVE YOUR FAMILY VERY MUCH! PRAISE GOD!

@QuinnChada

4 ай бұрын

Bishop Larry Krepps 6129 Andalusia Ave Riverside CA is a fraud bishop

@QuinnChada

4 ай бұрын

41234 Harper Lake Rd. Hinkley Ca is stolen property according to my signed notarized affidavit. Anyone opposing, they will remove, no matter how dirty it gets, they ran over me 3 times with 2 vehicles, then had me arrested where I did 3 years and all I did was witness multiple felonies they committed. Then they stole everything I owned based on lie after lie about me. "Spiritual Indian, INSANE!!!"

My second comment. I am an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and have listened to your story and want to let you know that in my opinion you are a very honorable man and very brave and honest. Thank you for sharing your story. You’re ward members will miss such a man as you.

@johnnyrarere

4 ай бұрын

Agree

@Omajade0304

3 ай бұрын

I'm at the very beginning of my faith crisis, but I was thinking something very similar. I was thinking how wonderful it would be if all bishops were like Nick Jones. What a kindhearted soul. I have watched several Mormon Stories podcasts as I am trying to figure out what I believe and none of them have pricked my heart like this one did.

@babyshields

3 ай бұрын

MORMONISM is POLYTHEISTIC..belief in many gods ..(D&C man is what god once was and godvis what man mat become) another gospel and christ...as we share the Holy Spirit in Christ. My LORD , THE LAMBBOF GOD PAID FINISHED.. Grace.

@babyshields

3 ай бұрын

MORMONISM DOCTRINE IS NOT CHRISTIAN..TO personally accept CHRIST. HIS WORK alone..paid. FINISHED..INNER SPIRIT IN CHRIST told me those men have no right to monitor ...CHRIST 'S BLOOD PAID.

@Georgiagirl1949

Ай бұрын

What is the difference between a Mormon temple and the church?

Nick, I am a 54yr convert to the Church of LDS but I am starting to have serious doubts about it all. I can tell you that you have my sincere admiration and your story has been a strong incentive for me to walk away from it all. I have for quite a long time now had doubts about the way the Church is being run. The truth of the matter is that you are still a Christian and so am I, we have to learn what is the correct way to relate to our God. He is true and Jesus is his anointed one so hold your head up high , you have an admirer here. Go with God, sincerely yours G.

@spr00sem00se

4 ай бұрын

There are clear reasons to doubt the current leadership of the church. You have to decide, for yourself, if you can continue to practice a religion which may be run by men who do not practice what they preach. They will tell you the men arent perfect. In reality, they seem to be so far from perfect, they have no place to criticise any of the members. Anyone who can decide to set up shell companies to keep the misuse of tithing money away from the members, deserves a warm place in the afterlife.

@marshapieroni6677

4 ай бұрын

That's a beautiful and brave comment. I wish you peace and happiness in future endeavors. Hope you can break away from it

This should be required for ALL Mormons to watch. The WHOLE thing.

"I was told to stand down... So I reported it to the police anyway." 💀

@ah5721

5 ай бұрын

Great respect for him that he called the police

I lost my job many years back, and I had a temple recommend. I went in for my bishop's interview a few weeks later and he asked me if I've been paying my tithing. I said, "No, paying my bills and feeding my family was my first priority right now". He did NOT like that answer and immediately asked for my recommend. That was the moment I knew it was membership dues, not a place of god. No loss, the temple was creepy AF. I feel "the spirit" in nature more.

@patriciashears25

4 ай бұрын

You got it all wrong! The Lord asks us to pay a tithe. It is a test if tour faith. Then you go and the church helps with your needs. If you dont have enough faith to pay tithing first then you do not understand its true purpose. Therefore i assume he figures you dont have enough faith to enter the temple too. Sorry. Search your heart and please pray for your understanding. Discuss with your partner. I do understand as i have been there too.

@banderson5676

4 ай бұрын

​@patriciashears25 I don't believe I have anything wrong. The lord has not asked me to pay tithe, only men trying to fund extravagant temples and buildings. Why rely on the church when I can pay my own bills. I don't think the lord cares about money, he cares about kindness and goodwill toward man. I'm sorry, but I have no intention going back. I've seen first hand the wasteful spending the church has done with it's members hard earned $. Yes, it goes to some good, but most goes into expanding the Church's real estate. It's business funds, not 'God's' money.

@christinasitake4481

4 ай бұрын

Tithing is not about money it’s about your faith , the lord asking us to pay your tithing not the church or the bishop so don’t get it wrong, you need to pray to God and ask him if everything is true or Not

@banderson5676

3 ай бұрын

​@christinasitake4481 Been there, done that. It's not about faith, it's about control. I'm not going to be funding the church's frivolous spending anymore. God doesn't need my money. The church does. You can be the most kind, generous person in the world but if your not paying your thithing, your not getting into the temple. Sounds like membership fees under the facade of "faith" to me.

@notnow7973

3 ай бұрын

@@patriciashears25 money money money.

A never Mormon here. I grew up with a best friend who was. These stories, even to me are so impactful and confirming as to what I have always seen and thought about organized religion. It's about power, control, money. You do not need a church to be spiritual, and/or believe, etc. As a non believer mom and wife with a transgender daughter - I love you and accept you for who you are.

“There is now so enjoy the music”. Thank you. I’m a former bishop when I was released after asking to be I walked out the back door of the chapel and never looked back. So glad to be away from that Mormon cult. It’s been 2.5 years now and it’s been the best thing ever

@juniexo

6 ай бұрын

It IS a cult. I hope that my dear friends can soon see the truth and be set free from it. Thank you for your honest labeling!

@justkiddin84

6 ай бұрын

Glad you saw reality! I hope all is well for you!

@terryberwick760

6 ай бұрын

A cult is any religion that honours something other than the bible. Well that's the definition. The book of Mormon qualifies the cult definition

@brianbusbea8960

6 ай бұрын

@@terryberwick760 cult includes the Bible in my eyes, all religion and I mean all are a form of control and the Bible is what these religions are based on. It’s man’s way of controlling other people for gain, greed,or power.

@styphlynne8253

6 ай бұрын

AMEN ! similar here

This is why they say, "Don't get out of the boat." They don't want you to see that the boat isn't even in water.

@amshoupe

6 ай бұрын

This just gave me chills 😳 so true.

@pabloareas2258

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 you just realized that? 😂😂😂😂

@angelfranklin1976

5 ай бұрын

Deep

@isabelateixeira3713

5 ай бұрын

Fantastic analogy

@davidlaki

5 ай бұрын

The boat is a cardboard box, sitting on a dry rock.

Having left the church after 40 yrs. I’m watching Mormon podcast, and I never felt so free and true to myself. My God is a kind loving God and I don’t have to pay money to know that. I have a few devout Indigenous friends who follow their beliefs according to ancient teachings. They are so connected to our world and know how to gentle trod and not abuse what Mother Earth and the Creator has provided. Now that is the love I seek to know. They were almost wiped out by settlers, priests, governments, explorers etc, yet they can still try to keep connected to this planet. God bless this couple for sharing and enlightening us all. Stay strong and be your true self. We are the creators children and are not owned by anyone.

@user-of2xd4id1o

3 ай бұрын

Because Joe Rogan and Elon Musk are too self-centered and do not talk.Truth to do anything to help these people

So great!!!! I was a member for 56 years , left 2 years ago. So many things were said that validate why I also left. Bless you and your family

Love this . ...one more positive influence to help me deconstruct my 54 years of being sexually abused, being a bishops wife, going thru a divorce and being excommunicated, being re baptized ,remarrying and finally having a faith crisis and stuck between shame and fear....I long for a healing heart ❤

@patriciajessop2248

6 ай бұрын

@toismith2249 I am so sorry to hear that you have had to go through all of this sexual abuse and then be stuck between shame and fear too. It's like reliving your nightmare over and over. Think about going to a quiet and peaceful place and sit in your car with a big dog and get him/her some ear muffs for 'ear protection', and or a trustworthy girlfriend. Lock the car doors, but open the window a little so you can shout out all your fearful life experiences back to the planet, and in particular to all the ants and all other 'creepy insects' as well! When you have released those feelings, simply forgive yourself for innocently not knowing about 'creepy bugs', When you feel it has released from your soul, give yourself a loving hug, and also deeply thank your trustworthy friend for coming along too. May your life improve in love and kindness to yourself and other's everyday.. 🥰

@liz3564

6 ай бұрын

I hate that this happened to you. I hope that you can heal. You are not at fault for any abuse you received. You have nothing to feel ashamed of. ❤️

@alstewart6870

6 ай бұрын

Please don’t give up on the Jesus of the Bible! Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater 😢

@K777angel

6 ай бұрын

I hope it's not triggering to say. I will be praying for you friend.

@justkiddin84

6 ай бұрын

@@alstewart6870 How was that funny? 😂 🤨🙄

Random African lady obsessed with mormon stories! My husband thinks I'm crazy.

@OscarFrosty

6 ай бұрын

❤😂

@margenn3889

6 ай бұрын

I'm a 68 year old Catholic woman in Australia who is very interested in these stories as well.

@aronsanchez6999

6 ай бұрын

​@@margenn3889 and here we thought we were the only ones with sexual abuse cases beig swept under the rug.

@rebeccacall7348

6 ай бұрын

Well, if you're in Ghana, and my brother comes knocking on your door to preach the "true gospel," please forgive him. He doesn't know anything outside the lies the church tells him.

@stiffykitty1

5 ай бұрын

Lol solo mum in new zealand definitely not Mormon obsessed 2😂

Nick and Amanda, what you are doing IS heroics. You’re saving people indirectly. Thank you x10000 for sharing. Y’all ARE superheroes.

I have listened to Mormon Stories podcast for the past 1.5 years as I left my position as full-time on-campus faculty at BYU-Idaho and left the church. It has helped me realize I am not alone. This episode, by far, has been my favorite and the most hard emotional for me. I wish my wife and I could take Amanda and Nick to dinner for a couple of hours and just talk. Thanks for this interview!

I made it to the brewers tonight (Feb. 1st) to meet with Nick and Amanda, but I only had a few minutes to stay since I was passing through. I wasn’t able to speak to them unfortunately, but I wanted to say how much I appreciate Nick and Amanda’s story and their courage. It is inspiring and powerful. With the other bishops and stake presidents who have reached out to Nick, I think they are low key starting a mini-movement within the church. Kudos.

This bishop has a heart of gold. He is the kind of bishop that every bishop should be. I would like to say to you, God bless you. You are a true Christian.

@MightyChange22

6 ай бұрын

He’s not a bishop anymore you can keep him 🙌

@h.neubert8770

6 ай бұрын

Anybody would be honored to have him. And his wife.

@DavidHancock-fw7tt

5 ай бұрын

Mormons are not Christians. Jesus Christ of the Bible is not the same as the one in the Book Of Mormon.

@rksnote9635

5 ай бұрын

Its important for strong men like this former Bishop to speak out so that the church can improve and even change into a better church. The church culture of Mormonism sucks, i hate it but I still love the restored gospel of Jesus Christ.

@Omajade0304

3 ай бұрын

I said the same thing! :D What a good man! All bishop's should be like Nick Jones. They were so lucky to have him while they did. :) My heart really goes out to he and his family. I hope and pray that he is treated with the kindness, respect, and dignity that he and his sweet family so deserve.

Lost count of how many times I've got teary watching this. The love and openness is amazing

@lesliekupchanko5001

5 ай бұрын

I have to agree. 3 minutes in, and I teared😢up

@Omajade0304

3 ай бұрын

Same. I've been listening to Mormon Stories Podcasts for a few months now, and they are all very interesting; this one, though, really pricked my heart like no other. I'm happy for Nick and Amanda for their bravery and integrity to stand up for their truth. I'm also kind of sad for that ward for losing the kind of bishop that all bishop's should be. ;) They were very blessed to have such a good man as their bishop.

This is by far my favorite guests you’ve ever had I left the church a few years ago and hearing everything this man says rings home two beautiful souls now getting to experience LIFE they’re gonna go far in helping so many 10000x what they did in their church callings

@Omajade0304

3 ай бұрын

My favorite podcast too. :)

This episode is huge. Amanda and Nick y’all are so strong and inspiring. -fellow exmo southerner

What a great POD cast. I left the church in 2016 as a Mormon Bishop as well. I thought at the time that remaining silent was the best thing to do until I heard Nick’s story. My story is interesting as well and I want it told. Thank you both, John and Nick, for showing others the way.

@sarahmoffett1296

6 ай бұрын

There has been so many people speaking out recently. There's a lot of truth being revealed and healing happening 🙂

@59Alaskan

5 ай бұрын

There are many who would like to interview you.. or just do your own video... let them know.. Blessings ✨️

@bmk9844

5 ай бұрын

Please do it. Society needs to hear your voice.

@Zhana808

5 ай бұрын

I would love to hear your story, I really hope you’re able to find a platform to share it.

@pettytubeyou

5 ай бұрын

So sorry you bailed on the true gospel. What did you exchange it for? What brand are you with now?

Real powerful. A positive example of righteous anger. Even as he has left the church he is shining the love and grace of Jesus.

@Omajade0304

3 ай бұрын

Amen.

This was incredible! Thank you Nick and Amanda for sharing your story. I cried the whole way through it with you. I was born into the church, well I was 3 when my parents joined so I say born into it, and I’ve never known anything else. So leaving was the hardest thing I’ve ever done and continues to be difficult because I lost my social circle. There is so much that you’ve shared that I can relate to and this really helps me to feel I’m not alone and that I’m a good person even though I’ve left. I was treading in 3’ feet of water and now I can stand. Also thanks to John and Margi for making this available to us through Mormon Stories. You are helping so many people to deal with the pain. It’s so true , Nick you mentioned it several times, and that is until you step away you will not see things as those of us who have left see things. It’s a whole new wonderful world out there.

I’m on the replay crew, but this guy has all my respect. He IS a good man - in every sense of the word. He and his wife are lovely people. May God bless you.

@GailOwens

6 ай бұрын

Well said.

@dlariby

6 ай бұрын

Do you know them?

@mea1831

4 ай бұрын

What’s a “replay crew?”

I rarely listen to these personal stories of leaving the church. However, the I watched the episode in which he resigns at the pulpit and ever since then I’ve been anticipating this show. You empowered the members in your ward and now you are empowering many others who are still asleep in the knowledge of who they are. "Sanskrit. The meaning of Christ is the man who woke up who discovered who he really was."

@hlnbee

6 ай бұрын

Sat, Chit, Ananda.

@auzziemel8983

6 ай бұрын

There's so many others on here. I love this channel. I feel each story and grow more as a non believer the more I watch. It has given me tip's and tricks to do coming out the other end.

@RC-oq4pt

6 ай бұрын

Same - I struggle with the length of the episodes and sometimes the place it takes me to, mentally. This one, was special.

@auzziemel8983

6 ай бұрын

@@RC-oq4pt Very special. I usually put it at 1.5 speed. I need the end part for the good part of where they are now.

@jillyclay1402

6 ай бұрын

I am not Mormon but somehow came across this channel and this episode and found it so powerful. I have Mormon friends, who are lovely people, btw, and wanted to know what they believe so listened to gain understanding. While I knew some of the issues I wasn't aware of the ones brought to light here. The pain expressed here was palpable and the issues dealt with are more than bothersome on so many levels and the trauma caused at the hands of indiviudals in a church is almost beyond comprehension, yet there it is. How disturbing. The pain people have to live through, the trauma they have to process - it's almost beyond comprehension that it is done in the name of the church. The belief that a single or group of person are "in charge" of your salvation is what Jesus came to undo. Jesus said so many times that we can live in freedom from shame and sin. That's powerful in the perfect sense of the word. Immediately after listening to this podcast I came across these words that seem like a healing balm for people who have experienced trauma via an entity that tries to take away their value and promote a way of thinking that prescribes such power over a person's destiny: The psychological wounds inflicted on you by the battles of life have made you believe you are less, far less, than you actually are. You are of such massive significance to your Maker that all the resources of omnipotence have been marshaled for your redemption. And part of that redemption is to restore in you a true and accurate vision of yourself as the cherished object of God’s infinite love. The light of the gospel will gradually obliterate your insecurities and heal your sense of significance. It will whisper into your soul over and over again, “You are the one for whom God, in Christ, voluntarily suffered and died. It was all for you. He would have done no less had you been the only person in world in need of rescue from the dark and destructive dominion of sin, shame, and death. God has estimated your value as equivalent to His own life.”

Hi Amanda and Nick! Thank you for your words your brave and your hearts.❤ I am former member from Czech Republic. 15 years ago quit the Church and your interview helped me to heal old wounds. Good luck in the future in your new life. And thank you very much again for therapy. Tomas

Wow the LDS Church with $128 Billion, and costs only Half a Billion to operate the whole church?! Didn’t Jesus said: Don’t turn my father’s house into a market?!

@williamwickline8444

Ай бұрын

Be prepared... scriptures say blessed both spiritually and physically... wealth is not a sign of untruth

I stepped away from the church because i was tired of being shamed. Later i realized that i was normal, just had a rough childhood - but nobody ever asked “why” i did rebellious things like drink coffee, or smoke, or drink, yet they were more than happy to shame me every time i did. Later, i was shocked to find it that the church was lying about so many things and became angry that i put up with all of the shaming from a sham church.

@justkiddin84

6 ай бұрын

Not a church, a cult. Only the top leaders benefit in any real way-they feed off of all those folks like vampires. The huge amount of SA is also typical of cults-the ultimate way to break people. 😡

@ronbrewer4632

5 ай бұрын

Those who are insecure and unable to recognize their own weaknesses tend to percieve other having as having the same cariceristicks. Be careful be wise .

Every Mormon should listen to this. I was heartbroken at the abuse!!! I wish every bishop was like Nick. He was such a good example of what bishops SHOULD be!

@styphlynne8253

6 ай бұрын

I live under the banner of Zion here in LD$ - SLC UT USA. Im a barber and hear these stories weekly.

@marybradytancredi6114

6 ай бұрын

You did what was right for you and your family

@nadiamasot455

6 ай бұрын

It's ironic right? I had that thought so many times watching this.

@judybookwise

5 ай бұрын

Uh, no he wasn’t. The guidance for counseling couples? Don’t. Send them to professionals. This man paints himself as the devoted overworked Bishop who had no time for his family but had time to read anti books. There’s WAY more to this than he’s revealing.

@styphlynne8253

5 ай бұрын

@@sarahooten4671 It could however those who are brainwashed usually can not comprehend. (especially a few chosen who's bishop makes sure their bills are paid) LOL

This has made my top 5 of all time, John! You and Margie were the perfect hosts, let them speak, and oh my lord, if I can just tell this sweet, courageous, amazing couple, thank you! For being here, for sharing, for being so real. It gets better! It's been 5 years for me and it still hurts. Much love from Tennessee and again, THANK YOU!

Powerful stuff John. I’ve been on a hiatus from Mormon Stories for a while and been back a couple weeks and man, you’re coming with some firepower these days. Bravo

What beautiful hearts of honesty and integrity these two have. Everyone in their ward who is judging them should be ashamed of themselves.

@rosehannah4845

6 ай бұрын

Especially when Jesus taught us not to judge others.

@greenfairy4894

6 ай бұрын

They are brainwashed and shunning is a learned behavior in the church. Some don’t have any emotional depth. In some ways I pity those kind of people

@johns1834

6 ай бұрын

@@rosehannah4845 Not True. Jesus said we shouldn't judge..ie..point out other's sins without first reconciling our own sins and first removing the log from our own eye before pointing out the speck in someone else's eye. Matthew 7:1-5.

@Time_Is_Left

6 ай бұрын

@@johns1834 no one is without sin, remember? Unless it’s you? You the perfectly reconciled man with gods go ahead to judge?

@Washingtontree

6 ай бұрын

It seems a little unfair to assume their ward members are judging them. Just because someone hasn't made a personal visit doesn't mean they're judging. My husband and I just recently stepped away. He sent an explanation text out to many people in the ward. Many people responded via text. Many did not. I don't know what's in any of their hearts. I'm trying to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. I'm seriously not offended in any way that no one has paid a special visit. I hope that if they see me out and about they will stop and talk with me like before, but if they don't I'm okay with that. The world is much, much bigger than me.

This has been a vey inspiring interview. I too experienced sexual abuse and I was sent to the bishop to confess, then I was told to not take sacrament as if I was the sinner. I was 11 and was being abused off and on since 8. I was made to feel as if I was dirty and unworthy. I also felt like everyone at church knew that I was dirty and I couldn’t look anyone in the eyes. It wasn’t until I was in my 20s and I confided in a close friend and she told me it wasn’t my fault. It never crossed my mind that it was never my fault . I still struggle with that voice in the back of my head telling me I’m not worthy.

@davabeardsley972

5 ай бұрын

You deserved better ❤ still do

@sar8349

5 ай бұрын

As a child, evidence everywhere says you are not capable of making certain decisions. We have laws that are supposed to protect children because of this fact. Children who are subjected to this kind of abuse by adults who know better and are often seen as those who can be trusted, are absolutely NOT at fault! PLEASE, if not already, find someone you can trust to help you get through this and to stop believing the lie that you were/are the problem. It is difficult, but you can overcome and Truth will be your advocate!! Blessings for your healing.

@nicoletassin7307

5 ай бұрын

Reading this broke my heart. I am so sorry you had to go through that like that. That bishop was soo wrong obviously. Makes me irate! I had some bad experiences with a bishop who ultimately exed me. Yet I saw adulterering (made that word up) men get a slap on the wrist. Make it make sense please. You were an innocent child that was treated with disdain. Disgusting. Sorry hun!

@forulimu

5 ай бұрын

I don’t understand why they did that?! So sorry you went thru the abuse and not having your church leaders to comfort you. Much love❤

@ronkunz4112

5 ай бұрын

Very sorry for what you went through. Abuse is the fault of the perpetrator NOT the victim. I will literally pray for you dear April that you may feel the healing through our dear Savior's atonement. You are not alone...

I am a life long atheist & have no connection to the Morman church. I also never leave comments. But you two are honest, precious & inspirational people. Be happy in your new lives, with people who appreciate your real value.

Growing up in a prominent LDS neighborhood. My family was shunned because we were Baptist. I tried to go to church ⛪️ with my LDS friends. The bishop told me that I was not welcome there because my mom and dad were Baptist and not LDS. I grew up with anxiety and depression 🫥 because I felt like the blacksheep of the neighborhood 😢

You say you don’t know about anything besides wood floors, you are a very smart man and emotionally strong and are giving soooo much of yourself by doing what you did! So Brave!

@alexanderseliunyn3424

6 ай бұрын

Agreed 100% he’s an amazing person with the big heart ❤️

@savannahsmiles1797

5 ай бұрын

wood floors are a fixed entity...an org is not.

Would love to hear from them again in another 6 - 12 months.

@Elparker28

6 ай бұрын

I was just thinking that, I’m only half way through the episode but as it’s only been a month or so out, I have so much hope for their future and could see a Thrive story episode down the line

@brittina1

6 ай бұрын

YESSSS!!!!

@rksnote9635

5 ай бұрын

As much as the culture of the church can be broken with imperfect leaders and members, it still holds the true gospel of Jesus Christ which is a protection and shield for our eternal welfare. I was inactive for 7 years and broke my temple covenants, God told me he loved me just the way I am but my current mortal happiness is equal to that of the terrestial kingdom which I will inheret, I immediately stopped breaking the commandments and returned to church, will need to be rebaptised soon but it was confirmed to me through the spirit that the celestial glory is now back in play.

@nickywal

5 ай бұрын

​@@rksnote9635the true gospel that a conman claimed to translate from an Egyptian greeting card

Nick & Amanda I’m so grateful you were willing to share your story , it moved me to tears . In 1979 I became a member of the church in The Netherlands - Europe but 8 years ago my husband and I stepped away from the church and so did 2 of our 3 kids. So many similarities you shared I experienced when in the church . I served in many callings but my longest was in RS both in our Ward and Stake as a RS President , I always felt that I wasn’t heard by the brethren because I am a woman . Being in RS for 20 years I saw and heard so much that it literally gave me headaches every Sunday. I tried my very best and my sweet counselors as well but it was never enough !! I was called out and shamed many times by The brethren and even wives of GA because they felt the need to show they were better than me . My life is so much better since I left the church but I still judge myself for being so naive all these years . I met my husband of 43 years in the church and some wonderful people for which I am forever grateful but I also feel a great deal of my life I missed out on so many things . Thank god my grandchildren don’t have to experience the pressure in the Church. I don’t personally know you Nick & Amanda but I feel great love for you both . I wish you all the best in the world for your family . ❤

Thank you! It has taken me about a week to get through this episode. You have helped me to lay so many questions to rest. I have been searching for moral answers for a long time. I was raised Mormon but we were mostly jack Mormons. I really struggled because I knew that I had a direct connection to God and that he’s my best friend and I had people telling me that I could pray, for sure, but that it wasn’t enough because I’m not a man so therefore I couldn’t hold the priesthood and my prayers were invalid. It hurt my feelings so bad that I stopped praying and started running away in my mind and then into drugs and down a very dark path. I was told that if I prayed for someone that I had to say their name or God wouldn’t know who I was praying for 🤦🏼‍♀️ I ABSOLUTELY will pray every time I pass a car broke down on the road or every time the ambulance or paramedics/ firefighters go by. I pray for them. I pray for the people they are going to help. I pray for all the people that they pass on their way to get to the people they are going to help. I pray for all the doctors/nurses and the people who clean in between patients. I will never stop praying. No one will ever tell me that my prayers for blessings on anyone are not valid. Thank you for being vulnerable and sharing the hard stuff. I thank both you and your wife and I give you mad props for having the courage to be real 🫶🏼

Never Mormon here but I grew up in a high control religion- The United Pentecostal Church. So many similarities. Thank you for sharing your story.

@styphlynne8253

6 ай бұрын

Very Interesting- Thanks for sharing

@doctorquestian

6 ай бұрын

BUT THE BIG DIFFERENCE is that the Pentecostal Church follows the truth, whilst the LDS is a cult.

@alexanderseliunyn3424

6 ай бұрын

Same here 👍👍👍👍and same church I grew up in… 🙄🙄🙄🙄

The best thing about the podcast is YOUR WIFE AS A COHOST, very respectful, knowledgeable, very calm, emphatic. ❤❤❤❤❤❤

@faithisnotblindpodcast

5 ай бұрын

He had to add his wife as cohost because of the belittling and sexist way he treated the women who worked for him. John is good at coming across as a wide-eyed victim who just wants to "help people," but his dark, manipulative, power-hungry, attention-seeking side is just beneath the surface. A little ironic in light of the shade he throws at LDS Church leaders for those same characteristics. Just google John Dehlin and sexist.

@typingnoises

5 ай бұрын

@@faithisnotblindpodcast????????

@firelordplayz

5 ай бұрын

Don't believe everything you see or hear from them. After all, for decades they were the ones who were very very active in faith deceiving others.

@7aloha7

4 ай бұрын

Just wish Margi didn't say, "umhm, yes, etc. after every sentence the guest utters. We know you are there Margin. I like it much better that John is silent and really just lets them speak without editorializing.

Nick casually saying “I was one of the more successful in missions.” I came here to point out that many would blindly follow attractive people with few questions. That said, Nick and Amanda are heroes for the journey they are now traversing.

I rarely cry through an entire episode of anything!! I bawled through this one!! I appreciate your heart and honesty, Nick and Amanda!! Thank you so much for reaffirming that I AM WORTHY!!

Margie has grown so much as an interviewer and asks such insightful questions

@happix-mo4441

6 ай бұрын

Love Margi! She and John make a damn good team.

This may be the most important Mormon Stories interview of recent years. Margi’s gentle way of asking tough questions proves she is the best female co-host EVER. My takeaway- this couple’s journey is going to resonate with so many people. Thank you for sharing your experiences-it’s high time that transparency becomes the norm Change can only occur when the truth is revealed

@emmartinsen1770

5 ай бұрын

Yes Absolutely

@mea1831

4 ай бұрын

If only she could stop the “mhhmm”’s

I’m not a Mormon, but I find your stories fascinating I think it’s because they’re human stories!

This has been the BEST Mormon Stories ever. I am in total awe of Nick and Amanda. True heroes ❤

Thank you for living a life of integrity. When my brother asked me why I had left the church, I told him it was for integrity. I didn’t want to teach my children something that I did not believe in. It was difficult, very hard. Like jumping off a cliff in the dark. But we have to do the hard things so our children won’t have to. And yes, the world is a beautiful place. Human beings are indescribably beautiful when we see them without walls and without judgment. We are like a field of wildflowers. Each one unique and different, all contributing to the beauty of the whole. Jesus said to love one another. That is all…that is everything.

@firelordplayz

5 ай бұрын

Not all human beings are indescribably beautiful: Javed Iqbal Mughal has entered the chat.

@marshapieroni6677

4 ай бұрын

I have never seen so many beautiful and inspiring comments! Thank you.

Even though I don’t believe anymore, it didn’t hit me until the end that Jesus was a carpenter like Nick. I believe Nick is exactly the kind of person that Jesus would have wanted to lead and be an example of love, grace and acceptance. You can see the weight in his eyes of what this has done to him… but it’s one thing he said that really stuck with me that I’ve heard only a handful of times from people who leave high demand religions… you start to really live and love the right now. High demands religions are always like you’ll be happy when you die IF you follow all these rules so suffer now for happiness in death…um No and also the chokehold of guilt to keep you addicted to them. This has been one of the best interviews. Also shout out to Mike and Nemo for the LDS discussion!!!

One thing that you touched on towards the end is the widows. My mother lost her husband 11 years ago and to this day has to ask for help from the bishop and she’s tried to get a job and she even had a degree but she still asks for help from the church. The bishop asked if she could help pay anything more on top of her tithing. She still got the help but the fact that the bishop questioned that just makes me angry to my core. Thank you for sharing your story! I wish you luck in everything Nick and Amanda!

Nick and Amanda, sending you both love and healing. What an incredible interview. You have given me so much hope for the world that is emerging.

After work, I had no idea I would spend my evening watching this episode in full, but that's exactly what I did. As soon as I saw his resignation video, I've been waiting to hear his story.

Wow... the backstory on how this came out is tough. I can't imagine on a national scale that you're leaving the church. Also, having people edit the video to suit their own interest and then being forced to post it again. This guy comes at this so earnestly and is so clearly empathizing with people he doesn't know. Much love and support for his bravery in doing the right thing in the face of such a large cost to his own person. He's one of the good ones.

@jamesricks

6 ай бұрын

International scale! Following and sending support from Japan!

These stories are so relevant and moving even if you are not mormon. The dynamics he talks about in this interview related to any situation where we hand our power and self determination over to others. This is an interview that really makes you stop and reflect, I have had to watch this interview more than once and probably will again, there are so many profound insights.

The Jone's realizations are my heartfelt prayer for all my LDS friends. May eyes be opened and falsehoods be exposed for what they are. Thank you John and Margi for being so steadfast in the pursuit of truth!

This is the best Mormon stories episode I have ever seen. I was completed mesmerized by their stories and profound insights. My former husband was excommunicated prior to us meeting and I supported him in the process to be rebaptized. They kept asking him to rewrite a statement over and over rehashing the choices that got him excommunicated as well as any current sins. They kept rejecting his letter because it wasn't detailed enough. He became discouraged and wanted to give up. I wouldn't let him (which I regret) and finally they held a council and approved his rebaptism. Later, the stake president admitted they approved it because of the letter I wrote to the council touched their hearts. I was confused because I thought they were supposed to pray about it and get an answer from God. Not the case. He was rebaptized but had an annotation (red flag) on his record permanently. Christ forgives, but clearly the church does not.

@alexanderseliunyn3424

6 ай бұрын

Agreed ❤ so many tears 😭 emotions, pain, truth ❤ amazing episode ❤

@selfsufficientmama

5 ай бұрын

When I was called to teach Gospel Doctrine, and I started cross referencing the Bible and it WASN'T adding up- I began realizing that the Mormon church was exactly what Paul warned of in Galatians. I began actually teaching from the Bible WHEN we were supposedly teaching New testament that year and I was released. If you don't stay to their manuals and go into the real Bible doctrine they don't allow that. ALL truth is in the Bible. ANY OTHER gospel than that taught in the New Testament is accursed as the Bible says. Read the Bible and you will find the truth.

@alejandrorivas4585

4 ай бұрын

​@@selfsufficientmamaon one hand, I am glad you got out of the LDS, and if your faith in a god helps you, then I am glad. But that same introspection and skepticism deserves to be aimed at all your preconceptions no? Is there a particular reason why christianity ylu feel shpuld be exempt from your scrutiny?

@Sunshine_day

4 ай бұрын

​@alejandrorivas4585 I don't think the commenter was saying Christianity doesn't need to be scrutinized. But that the Bible teaches that believers shouldn't rely on or substitute any other book for the Bible or add to the scriptures. We should always question teachers and not just believe everything, but study the scriptures ourselves and pray for understanding and not just believe blindly what anyone is teaching.

@jimvein3134

4 ай бұрын

I have been red flaged as well

One thing that resonates is the lack of support this bishop, maybe all bishops receive from the church. As a licensed therapist, I know what it’s like to listen and carry the problems of my patients. But, counselors, therapists and all mental health workers need to practice self care. My heart goes out to Nick and Amanda. I hope they know that sharing their story has done more good than they may ever know. Thank you John. As usual, you carry the interview with dignity and grace.

I can't handle seeing a grown man cry. Makes me tear up. I feel for you brother. Sorry you're both going through this.

Nick we must drink a beer together @ some point if you are ever in Boise, Idaho reach out. Our stories are amazingly similar. February 13th marks our 1 year resignation from the LDS Corporation. I left as an EQP in Rexburg, Idaho. Thanks John for this amazing platform it helped me see the “ further light and knowledge”

NeverMo from Norway here that got to know a wonderful LDS woman on the Camino in 2022 and grew to get a facination with mormonism. As a result Ive been watching probably a couple hundred hours of this channel in the last few months. (And several other ex-mo and mormon channels on top of that). This is the strongest interview I've seen so far. Kudos to Nick, Amanda and Mormon Stories for sharing these stories.

@hanako4475

6 ай бұрын

Seriously, same. I'm a convert-ex-mo, been binging this content for the past few months and I fully agree! This interview is so powerful. I wish I could show it to all the sweet women I still love that are still lost in this system.

@styphlynne8253

6 ай бұрын

They're wonderful- especially in the land of Zion! I was a convert and once in it- was a Rude Awakening !! Im out now

I love when people discover the truth... their truth. So happy this whole family got out and can now live an authentic life. Thank you for sharing your story. Wishing you a happy life. I've been out for decades and have a wonderful life

As an exMormon I absolutely appreciate your story. I can relate to so much and still have family in the church. I have had to walk my journey mostly alone but cling to couples like you with your journey and these kinds of podcasts. Keep sharing and standing up for the ones that can’t do it on their own. Thank you.

This has been one of the most meaningful interviews I have seen from Mormon Stories. Thank you for telling your story!

Already crying 17 mins in- I appreciate this couple sharing their story. I know it will continue to help people in & out of the church

I was molested by a family friend from 5-10. My brain fractured and I learned compartamentalizing at an early age and blocked out most of my childhood. My memories returned after I joined the church and while serving my mission. Thank God for a good therapist after a traumatic car accident that only added to my onion layers of PTSD. I'm so thankful for podcasts like this that bring to life that we're not alone in our struggles

Nick and Amanda, I thank you for being so brave. May you continue to have a happy, loving and successful marriage and family.

Thank you, Nick, for sharing. Raised in the jw organization. It is so comforting, in a way, to know that there are people guiding others thar do have a crisis of consciousness and won't continue the lie. Thank you ❤ and I'm sorry for all of your and your family's pain.

Freedom means nothing left to lose... 💔❤️❤️‍🔥 I'm less than 20 minutes in and I am 1000% impressed with this amazing couple.

So nice to hear Nick give shout outs to his kids. This is truly brave and sweet.

This was an incredible show. Thank you so much for sharing your life. Much love and respect to nick and Amanda. ❤

Thanks for airing and sharing. May you, Nick, Amanda and your family be as blessed as you can be.

As someone who was also assaulted as a child, I completely sympathize with feeling like you were not really there

I was raised LDS and I left due to my study and found LDS to be in great error. My LDS church experience was amazing!! I actually loved being a Mormon! I am so thankful that I was not molested. I met people I really loved and miss to this day. THANK YOU for your time and sharing your story. I have since become a Christian and I continue to pray and love LDS people. 2 Corinthians 11:4

@dlariby

6 ай бұрын

What do you feel is in error?

@toddgraham6006

6 ай бұрын

@@dlariby The Mormon religion, The Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith the false prophet, changes to the religion, POLIGAMY, blood oaths in the Temple, child pedephilia, journal of discourses, D&C , meadows massacre, 1983 Mormon Bombings, church history, and not being Christians.

@timedmonds2315

6 ай бұрын

I'm confused about the verse you've referenced. I believe Paul wrote that as sarcasm because the Corinthians were being so acceptable to false teachers.

@judybookwise

5 ай бұрын

You left, loved being a Mormon, miss your LDS friends but are thanking this guy? He’s here to tear down, to bring as many folks out as he can. Keep loving your experience and missing your friends. That’s a much healthier way to leave than what this guy is doing.

@toddgraham6006

5 ай бұрын

@@timedmonds2315 the LDS preaches another Jesus that Paul the Apostle didn’t preach. Jesus Christ said “it is finished” he didn’t say he was going to create a new gospel in the Americas. The scripture also says “if you accept another gospel which we didn’t give” Clearly the Book of Mormon is another gospel which Paul the Apostle didn’t give. The scripture says “if you receive a spirit that we didn’t receive’ the Mormons state they feel a burning of the bosom. That spirit or feeling is not a spirit that Paul the Apostle has spoken about or has received. Clearly LDS have another Jesus and another gospel that is plainly evident in 2COR 11:4

Thank you for making a stand!! You did the right thing and a good example for others to follow!! This is how we make the world a better place!!

Incredible and important episode. I am so sorry for your pain. Thank you for being open and sharing. You reconciled some things for me. No doubt countless others 🧡

I’ve probably watched hundreds of MSP interviews. I think this is the most touching and impactful video I’ve watched yet. Thank you for sharing your stories Amanda and Nick.

My ex husband was a bishop for years. I can relate so much! He always fought against the church system and did what he felt was right.

Revisiting this episode again today and it is such a powerful interview and exchange of love and life. Well worth listening to again and sharing.

I am so happy to come across this program. I have been asking God for an answer to my question and I believe I found this program for that answer. Thank you.

Nick, You remind me of my late father so much. He struggled with our religion and the Bible as a man who was called to preach. He worked a full time day job for the city & came home in the evening to tend to our farm. My dad even made time for his family. It’s a lot of pressure on a man in general. Juggling all the things. I can now reflect back on my dad and realize that he was struggling a lot. Yes, he did have cancer. Even before that I think he struggled with his mental health. Thanks for this. In some weird way it allowed me to understand my dad better, whom I lost at 18. I’m now 40. To his wife Amanda: I see the struggle in your eyes too. Like my father likely did, I also struggle with depression. Don’t diminish your own struggles because you think Nicks are so much worse. The better you take care of yourself the better you can take care of everyone else. Make it your mantra!

@geese5170

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. Each and every story like this adds one more thing on the shelf of anyone with doubts. Thanks for being part of change

What a beautiful, brave, strong, and emotionally aware man. Super proud of him and his lovely wife. I have learned so much about the human condition and resilience from post Mormons.

Such a powerful interview! Nick and Amanda, you are awesome human beings. Thank you for sharing your story ❤ love you guys!

You guys are so brave putting it out there in the open. Very genuine... my hat is off to you both. Putting the puzzle pieces together is difficult and exhilarating, eye-opening and scary, terrifying and liberating, all at once. Congrats to you both. Welcome to a new world. Life is good on this side. Good luck on your journeys.

Out of all your Podcasts, this is the best one ever! Nick & Amanda are a breath of fresh air, with their raw honesty, & compassion for others! Thank you for telling your story! I come from a long lineage of Mormons, through both of my mother's parents. Going back to 1850's. My grandparents were very orthodox. As a child, I saw so many things that I didn't agree with. I wasn't treated well by the other girls in my ward. Probably due to mom mom being a divorced woman. Members of the church treated my mom badly, as well! The sisters, held on tightly to their husband's, as if my mom wanted to steal them! My mom stopped going when I was 13, but my siblings, & I were forced to go. My grandparents were racist & that really bothered me! My mother was dating a wonderful black man, whom my siblings, & I adored. My grandparents threatened my mom, that they would disown her, if she married him. That was the end of their relationship. I became a single mom & went back to church at 29, do my son could be baptised, as I still believed in the church, I just couldn't live by their teachings! Plus, I was austricized by the woman for being a divorced, single mom, like I was going to steal husband's! I Don't like the way they treat single moms!!! I left & came back when both my daughters were baptised & soon left, when I dropped my daughters off for mutual & the other girls thought it was funny to lock my daughters out. They walked to the store I was shopping at & vowed to never go back. The last & final time was after the fire in Paradise, Ca Camp Fire, when we escaped with our lives, & house burned down. We went to the church to get household things, that were donated & an older couple on their mission, were trying to get us to go back to church. I told them I didn't believe I needed to go to a bishop to confess my sins, as I have a direct connection, with my Father in Heaven, & no man should come in between that! My daughter & I went back 3 times & everytime we were ignored! No one talked to us, except the missionaries. The 3rd time, we decided to try Relief Society. We sat in the middle, right infront of the speakers. I was waiting for them to say, "We have 2 new people here today." Nothing, absolutely nothing, silence. So strange! We sat in the car & talked, as we were in total shock! We decided to Never go back! In 2020, I prayed to our Father in Heaven, asking him to show me if the Church was the true church. I was led to many scriptures. Read Galations. I saw the video of the temple ceremony, Scary, Lucifer, Really?! I prayed at least 10 times & found the truth! We are the church of Jesus Christ & the temple of our Father in Heaven! We don't need organized Re-Legion! I've had our Father save my life several times & his Holy Spirit has always been with me! I love him with all my heart & soul, mind, & strength! I love all my brothers & sisters, as well! There are other stories, but perhaps for another time! I'm praying for people to wake-up & see the truth, especially my brother! It's still hard to know the church isn't true, because of all my ancestors, that were fooled, & endured that guilt, shame,& fear re-legion! May our Father bless us all & give us eyes to see & ears to hear! Lots of love to you all & thank you Nick & Amanda, for your courage, & strength! You are heros & I admire your truth & honesty! May our Father always bless you! 🙏🏾🥰🙏

"They are trying to take it from you and tell you that they gave it to you. And they're trying to give it a name." This resonated to much with me. He is absolutely right!

@bodytrainer1crane730

6 ай бұрын

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Such a strong couple. You can definitely tell there’s a genuinely good intent in their message. These are the kind of people I want to see more and more inside and outside the church.

I stumbled onto this interview last night. I'm finishing it currently. This is the most genuine, heartfelt, most honest interview I've ever heard!! Thank you for opening up about what happened to you, and your journey. There is so much sexual abuse that goes on in this world. People just don't know...or they bury their heads...while children's lives get ruined. I joined the church at 15...left at 30. I'm 57 now. There was so much I didn't believe. Things really hit the fan when I went to the endowment session. I prayed to know the truth of what I was about to experience...and I had the most terrible feeling during it. I was told by so many that I wasn't prepared. It caused marital problems because my husband excepted it hook, line, and sinker. I miss the church and go back to visit time to time. There's so much good in it. But, I'll never believe all the man made parts of it. Thank you again. If you were near me, I'd encircle your family with love and kindness. I look forward to reading your book. Oh, you haven't written one? I see some in your future. ♥ 📙 ♥ Please stay honest about your suicide thoughts. My brother ended his life a year ago. I miss him so much. You have a mission...a calling...and so many lives to touch. Anyone struggling, please call or text 988. You are loved. You are important. ❤ Kim in KY