13:34 the denomination that somehow manages to make me laugh and weep simultaneously for the state of modern mainline Protestantism (Granted I’m Catholic but I do wish our separated brethren weren’t *quite* so separated).

The history pilgrims honestly is one of my favorite topics in history. Interestingly enough we have a primary source to read which is called "Of Plymouth Plantation" by William Bradford. Most schools sadly don't teach it how it happened though. I've heard of what people call the Puritan genius, which is trying to go to scripture and apply it to EVERY part of life.

Simply Reformed on KZread is a solid Reformed Congregationalist/puritan pastor. Beautiful historic church too

@redeemedzoomer6053

Жыл бұрын

awesome! I'll check it out

Random request - you should do a general video about your first time at church! Both the first time you tried church and maybe your first time at a new/different one. I grew up Lutheran and my wife grew up Catholic, but we are now both starting to attend a Lutheran church; my wife being pregnant sort of called us back to church as we are getting a bit older (31). It can be kind of intimidating, especially if the one you like is sparsely attended most Sundays.

I have studied religions in my free time for a few years now. Even though i came to a atheistic conclusion and stopped being Catholic, I still have sympathies towards christians, love learning about Christianity and all the various differences between denominations. And I want to say that the content that you are making is seriously one of the best on the topic. It is very relaxing to just listen to your very fleshed out commentaries. You have actually inspired me to play minecraft again just so I could also build a church. Please continue and I wish you all the best

@TempoLOOKING

Жыл бұрын

Why? Don't ghosts, demons and spirit s provide enough evidence that hell is real?

@historiaprotempore938

Жыл бұрын

@@TempoLOOKING All of these could have natural explanation.

@a_little_flame589

8 ай бұрын

@@TempoLOOKING can you prove to me that ghosts demons and spirits

@yamyool4328

4 ай бұрын

9 months later reading your comment, I'd be curious to hear any natural explanations for ghosts and demons

@historiaprotempore938

4 ай бұрын

@@a_little_flame589 They do not exist.

About the thing you mentioned towards the end, the Puritans having gone from being one of the most pious and conservative churches to becoming the most progressive mainline church by far, what do you presume to be the cause of that? Like was the cause for that massive shift economic, cultural, something about their theology etc?

@TempoLOOKING

Жыл бұрын

I blame George Bush

@unsrescyldas9745

Жыл бұрын

Immigration and migration, the Puritans were based in new England, which was a hub for immigration of lesser faithful peoples to the already established Puritan settlements, who would lash out against the newcomers in many ways, Salem was one of them, and also migration westwards was a popular one. what ended up happening is that the God-fearing would leave the Hellhole New England was becoming under all the immigration of Godless folk, and those that were content with disbelief would rather stay behind and "keep the faith" basically water the religion down to appease the newcomers. Hence you see that the most consistently religious Christian groups are generally isolationists and nomadic, as the Mennonites or the Hutterites. not that I am endorsing running away and giving away the hard work one had done for the sake of God to a bunch of ingrates.

@TempoLOOKING

Жыл бұрын

They should have just burned them.

@AJX-2

11 ай бұрын

The puritans were never conservative, at least to the extent that conservative means "wanting to preserve the old ways or existing social structures". They always believed in radically reforming society to perfect it. I would say the "shift" as you put it happened when puritans went all in on the abolition of slavery, which got the ball rolling on the rest of modern progressivism.

@elKarlo

4 ай бұрын

But the puritans went off the ails by the late 1600s iirc. One of their congregations become the first Unitarian church in the USA.

Do presbyterians have daily masses?

@budicaesar1213

Жыл бұрын

No

@tonic-music

Жыл бұрын

Normally only on sundays, and they're usually not called masses.

@carolusaugustussanctorum

Жыл бұрын

Just Catholics, Eastern/Oriental Orthodox and Assyrians of the East have divine liturgy with transubstantiation thanks to valid apostolic succession; no heretical sect has any of this.

Please do a video on why you are not congregationalist! This is coming from a Reformed guy that is leaning John Owen-type of congregationalism, I think it'll be really helpful to consider your views :)

@redeemedzoomer6053

Жыл бұрын

that's pretty much what this is haha

JW video when

do a why Im not quaker video

Can you make a video about Judaism and if Jews are saved? Additionally, what about Messianic Jews? Also, do you accept DMs on insta? I have some questions I'd like to talk to you about.

@redeemedzoomer6053

Жыл бұрын

To answer your first question, to put it simply, no. Messianic Jews? Only if they confess the doctrine of the Trinity and believe Jesus is truly God

Have you read Dooyeweerd? What about him?

how are you gonna talk about puritan wrongs throughout history and not mention what they did to the irish

@griffin.xxxxxx

3 ай бұрын

I mean they don’t teach in American Schools who the puritans were before coming to the new world unless you’re in AP Euro, sure he could’ve done more research but ig from an American perspective thats not the first thing that comes to mind.

@a_little_flame589

3 ай бұрын

@@griffin.xxxxxx he not only could’ve done more research he should’ve this isn’t an event you can let slip through the cracks like that

@anomos1611

20 күн бұрын

william petty was not a puritan

@a_little_flame589

20 күн бұрын

@@anomos1611 oliver cromwell was

@anomos1611

19 күн бұрын

@@a_little_flame589 and he was good

Are you effectively denying the doctrine of bearing of fruit? And that we should “work out” our salvation?

As you know I disagree with your view of Paul Washer. I see him as someone who is rebuking the lukewarm Christian for not possessing any fruit. That’s my view, but I understand why you hold your view as well.

@victorluz9414

Жыл бұрын

I really love Washer, I think he loves Christ intensely and his actions demonstrates that. But I think zoomer criticisms on him are very valid, although I think he is a little to critic, lordship salvation is a very dangerous heterodoxy.

Explains why New England is the less religious place in the US.

@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136

4 ай бұрын

Unfortunately I can confirm

If Christmas was not in the Bible than what did the three Holy Kings do when they celebrated the birth of Christ?

@unsrescyldas9745

Жыл бұрын

Scripture says after birth so it could have been a month after his birth for all we know, and they certainly did not celebrate it rather just came to him physically and offered him homage with gifts. where is the cutting down of good trees and placing heathen talisman on their branches lmao? man people can get silly.

Good video, but you really gotta turn off auto-jump.

1-you say they are too extreme without exactly explaining why why is it wrong that they did not celebrate Christmas? their criticism was completely founded, it is rather you who is being inconsistent with the principle of regulative worship the word worship, from old English "Weorthscippe" which means to give worth to something, you are worshipping on this specific date of Christmas exactly why? where is your proof for such a thing? you are just engaging in popular innovations in this religion for the sake of what exactly? enjoying this fleeting life under the guise of worship? how is this any different from Catholics worshipping and celebrating random dates that they chose for their "Saints" lmao they'd be worshipping the saints though instead. 2-regarding faith, it is good that they took the sacraments lightly if it meant that they remained in awe before the Lord, as that matters more, a fearful slave is an unsinful one. Faith means deed and word, as you said, as long as you keep your promises to God you would be saved, but how can you say you kept your oath to him when you disbelieve in him? Men would sin and say: "God is forgiving" till they reach their graves without a single good deed to their name. thus the word is bolstered by the deeds of the fearful servant. regarding Salem, they did react as such because even at that time faith was losing out in New England and the new settlers coming in and inhabiting the coasts were not as faithful or industrious as the earlier settlers so yeah they grew paranoid. lmao for real though regarding what the "Puritans" become check out what Salem looks like now, all that witch burnin' didn't do much in the end tbh. although I'd argue that the Puritans were already extinct by the time of American Revolution. the truer criticism you mentioned but I didn't see you hammer it on is their congregationalist structure, which is in my opinion was their entire downfall, basically, the Puritans were the Amish, but without all the quirks that kept and still keep the Amish safe from worldly influence. If they were more united and had a more authoritarian structure, they would have kept their faith despite the waves of changes in their "Dawnland"

@BirdTurdMemes

11 ай бұрын

Well said

Don’t try to make your branch sound the best it’s “Protestant work ethic”

@BirdTurdMemes

11 ай бұрын

The Puritans being the most Protestant had the most extreme manifestation of the Protestant work ethic, so extreme that you could call it its thing.

@FriarJoe66

3 ай бұрын

Max Weber identifies the Protestant work ethic/“the spirit of capitalism” most closely with Calvinism/Puritanism. Either way there are many critiques and a lot of people don’t think “protestant work ethic” is a good thing.

Bro did not just say “witchcraft does indeed exist” 💀 he’s on that 17th century grindset

@vijo1353

8 ай бұрын

Demons are shown to give people powers in the Bible

@joshm3283

8 ай бұрын

@@vijo1353 I get it, but the Bible was written a couple thousand years ago. Our understanding of mental health disturbances and supernatural phenomena has progressed greatly since then.

@vijo1353

8 ай бұрын

@@joshm3283 Which mental illness gives you powers?

@joshm3283

8 ай бұрын

@@vijo1353 no one ever received the supernatural powers you’re referring to

@Basedorthodoxchad

Ай бұрын

I mean there are witches i am not even going to make a biblical argument for if people claim to be witches and there are tons of them in Africa look it up.

lmao casually dropping that the salem witch trials were good and they were witches was so funny

@strafe155

Жыл бұрын

He didn't say that the Salem Witch Trials were a good thing. All he did was point out that there was some very questionable things being done in the woods at the time, and that the Puritans overreacting to them was a bad thing. Context matters.

@FriarJoe66

3 ай бұрын

@@strafe155 Do you have any sources that argue there was any valid basis for concern of witches?

As much as I want to dislike them. They were just soooo fucking awesome. I have a soft spot for radical, militant, Christian fanatics.

No aay can you say a Puritan today is a woke Christian the exact opposite of what a Puritan is ...

@fighterofthenightman1057

Жыл бұрын

He’s clearly saying the groups descended from the Puritans (Congregationalists) are.

@FriarJoe66

3 ай бұрын

There are two groups descended from Puritans that are conservative, the NACCC and the CCCC