“My seminary is infested with chickens.” A quote that might’ve been actually said in medieval times

@WackoMcGoose

5 ай бұрын

As a Hermitcraft fan, my first thought was "oh no, it's Doc's Perimeter all over again"...

@micmikeman6865

2 ай бұрын

​@@WackoMcGooseI haven't watched since season 7, so my first thought was grian's egg superhero thing. Lol

"Why are there so many chickens in my church?" 😂😂😂

@PaulRezaei

5 ай бұрын

And then, “Ok anyway, what was I talking about? Oh yeah, the Jews”

@YourFunkiness

5 ай бұрын

All are welcome.

@floridamanjack7225

5 ай бұрын

Your welcome

@lm_8480

5 ай бұрын

Churches chicken

@huntclanhunt9697

5 ай бұрын

Been asking myself that for years...

Woke: "Redeemed Zoomer is Jewish." Broke: "Redeemed Zoomer isn't Jewish because he converted to Christianity." Bespoke: "Redeemed Zoomer isn't Jewish because his mother isn't."

@danielutriabrooks477

5 ай бұрын

-"I'm a Jew! I follow all the customs and traditions!" +"That's a nice argument, unfortunately, your mother"

@carlose4314

5 ай бұрын

Some Reformed Jews trace lineage through the father.

@WILLIAN_1424

5 ай бұрын

​@@carlose4314i tought only Karaite jews did that

@nelhuiliztli2926

5 ай бұрын

@@carlose4314 then do I count? I have a Sephardic surname, but my family haven’t been practicing since the Spanish Inquisition 😂

@Abcdefghijajajaja

5 ай бұрын

He’s not Jewish, he doesn’t know much about Judaism, never lived a Jewish life, and his mom isn’t.

Based and Bible-pilled

@Real_Mick3y6

5 ай бұрын

I prefer Christ-pilled, but that works too

@ellybean7354

5 ай бұрын

KZread asked if I needed this translated to English, lol

@Abcdefghijajajaja

5 ай бұрын

@@ellybean7354hahahahahhahahaah

Incredibly glad you have the ability to just speak your mind and say what you think without worrying about being labeled as an anti-Semite. There are many “Christians” who would be more upset about the things you’ve said here and than they get about someone saying Christianity is for stupid people or something along those lines.

I’m an Israeli Catholic from a Jewish background (parents are Jews). You are correct but missing some points about Messianic Judaism. Messianic Jews are Evangelicals. They are funded and taught by international Evangelical groups and when you go to their services/meetings you’ll see a HUGE emphasis on the doctrine of salvation by faith alone. They do believe in the Nicene Creed and I personally talked with a Messianic pastor who confirmed that. The reason they don’t just call themselves Christian is that they want to label the Jewish religion as something that isn’t contradictory to Christianity. They know Jewish people don’t want to stop being called Jewish, so they emphasis that being Jewish and believing in Jesus is compatible. Also Hebrew Catholics (like me) and Messianic Jews don’t accept any post Christian Jewish teaching but they do feel that it’s important for them to preserve biblical law and customs in light of the Christian faith because we still consider ourselves as descendants of ancient Hebrews. I would suggest to read more about Jewish Christians who are mainly Evangelical or Hebrew Catholic. They aren’t separate from the historic church. I personally think Messianic Jews should be more clear about the fact that they are Christians and Evangelical but they just know Jews will automatically reject that. One small thing: Messianic services are very stereotypical Protestant services. There’s a band doing contemporary worship music before the sermon. (That’s not a criticism haha)

@alexvig2369

5 ай бұрын

Messianic Jews in Israel are indeed Evangelicals, but that's not the case necessarily in the US. In America, many of these groups are non-Trinitarian.

@johnnyvasker5916

5 ай бұрын

@@alexvig2369 interesting, I didn’t know that. Thanks for the clarification

@misseli1

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for going into detail

@Abcdefghijajajaja

5 ай бұрын

Some of what you said is false. Walk to a messianic rabbi.

@coopahtroopah1175

5 ай бұрын

I wasn’t aware there was such a thing as a Hebrew Catholic! Are you in communion with the Roman Catholic Church? Are your liturgies in Hebrew? Do you know of any good resources that would explain your tradition?

As someone who has a lot of Messianic Jewish friends and has gone to a lot of their services, I get a lot of the criticisms RZ raises here. However, I will say that for all the problems that arise in the Messianic Jewish world, some of the most faithful, most intelligent believers I know are Messianic Jews. They are stoutly Trinitarian, believe Jesus is God, and identify with the Church. There are certainly a lot of problems that can arise among individual members-for example, you get a lot of gentile larpers, and some may deny the Trinity (but this is condemned by their statements of faith. I even recall visiting a Bible study and one crazy old guy started denying the Trinity, only for the Rabbi and every other person to sternly correct him). I think it is good that Messianic Judaism exists, as it allows for ethnically Jewish people who believe in Jesus to redeem their own culture and for gentiles it provides helpful insights into the Jewishness of Jesus and the NT. But there’s definitely a lot of messiness in it that needs to be improved. Also a quick note for RZ: the Hebrew Roots movement is a separate thing from Messianic Judaism. I can say for a fact that my Messianic friends do not have kind words for Hebrew Roots people😂

@rdococ

5 ай бұрын

'Gentile larpers' is just... wrong. If everyone regardless of race is allowed to be Christian, then I don't see how they shouldn't be allowed to be religiously Jewish.

@coopahtroopah1175

5 ай бұрын

@@rdococ because Christianity is not bound by ethnicity. Judaism, Jewish tradition, and Jewish culture largely are. This is why followers of rabbinic Judaism don’t proselytize to gentiles-they’re only concerned about their fellow ethnic Jews. It’s totally fine as a gentile if you’re honoring Jewish traditions *with* your Jewish friends while recognizing that you are a gentile, but when gentiles abandon the identity that God gave them in pursuit of a Jewish one that’s not really theirs, that’s when I take issue. Likewise, if a Jewish person becomes a Christian, I don’t want them to abandon their identity to become more “gentile.” God made a person a Jew or a Gentile for a reason.

@jackdullboy8723

5 ай бұрын

As long as you have clear confessional documents that follow the early Church's doctrine, I'd say you're good.

@Souls_25

2 ай бұрын

@@coopahtroopah1175Amen to that brother 🙏🏻

@JemimaNta

Ай бұрын

​@@coopahtroopah1175 he can be a Jewish Christian which he is . He's saying Jesus fulfilled all the 325 prophecies in the tanahk which is a better explanation than Judaism gives in my opinion.

The Chickens have been studying Genesis 1:28 💀

“My seminary is infested with chickens!” Well, you are PCUSA. (This is a joke, please don’t hurt me)

@redeemedzoomer6053

5 ай бұрын

no, no. he's got a point

@mooseman3232

3 ай бұрын

@@redeemedzoomer6053 true

Good take. BUT A major hole in your discussion here is the identity of messianic Jews in Israel. In Israel by default a messianic Jew is an Israeli citizen (meaning Jewish enough to have obtained Israeli citizenship) who believes in Jesus as the messiah. They use this term Messianic Jew because to use the Hebrew term for Christian “Notzrim” actually doesn’t carry the same parallel connotation that the words “Christian” and “Messianic” have (both mean followers of Messiah) and furthermore generally has a negative connotation. So in Israel to be a “Christian” is really to be “Messianic” and vice versa. I will concede the fact that many Israeli messianic Jews do not see a clear connection between themselves and any Christian faith tradition, yet they by and large consider themselves a part of the global Christian community, albeit a uniquely Jewish ethnic denomination. They are also Nicene in their theology, and even had a council a few years ago to agree on the divinity of Christ and essentially “de-fellowship” a few congregations that were dogmatically Unitarian. If you want a good research survey on the matter, read the Caspari Center’s book called “Jesus believing Israelis” Source: I live and work in Israel

@joshuastoltzfus4910

5 ай бұрын

I very much agree. I go to a messianic service Saturday mornings and church on Sunday. I believe, in a very real sense, they connect me back to the roots of our faith. They really give a great perspective on the Jewishness of Jesus in tradition and culture. The Messianic teachers also teach through the Law and scriptures like no mainstream church I have ever witnessed, and there statement of faith is super solid. Learning more about Jesus' Jewishness has made Him more personal and real. Love my friends at K'vod Israel! Edit: Also Messianic Jews have NOTHING to do with the Hebrew Roots movement. I feel like a lot of RZ speculations of Messianic Jews really just comes from a false association with the HR movement.

"Why are there so many chickens in my church? Anyway, what was I talking about? Oh yeah, the Jews" - Redeemed Zoomer

"Pentecostals that say shalom" 😂😂😂

"...Why are their so many chickens in my church?" Ultra-Orthodox Jews:

"Okay, someone put a bunch of pork here" Almost seems topical 😂

"I guess chickens have multiplied like crazy in my seminary while I was gone" is one of the greatest out-of-context quotes of all time.

Thank you for this video. Growing up Jewish, I recall a rabbi in my college days (temple near campus) who essentially said if you go down the path of Christianity or intermarriage, you score a victory for Hit!er and you betray centuries of Jewish history, and insult the memory of your ancestors who died for being Jewish. It was a terrible sense of guilt. I used to not be able to think of Jesus without feeling that God would punish me. Moving to Christianity, began with feeling disconnected and alienated from Judaism, and started reading the New Testament. My cousin told me the New Testament is nothing but Jew hatred and I could not convince him otherwise. I considered Messianic Judaism, but you have the same caste system you get in rabbinic Judaism, with hierarchies dependent on how observant you are: eg, you are judged as not as good a Jew as one who observes the Sabbath and is strictly kosher or knows the rituals. I find myself drawn to Protestantism, considering Methodist vs Presbyterian.

@antigonarosaura7845

4 ай бұрын

You can preserve your culture and still be a Christian.

@zjzr08

21 күн бұрын

I'm sorry if the Messianic Jewish congregation you went treats you that way, I mean I thought Jesus was to teach us to not be judgemental? Are you in the US, because most of my exposure are the ones from Israel.

You may have inadvertently told the chickens to be fruitful.

"Dispensationalists are funny" 🤣

This is the series I never knew I needed.

I’m also from an ethnic Jewish Christian family ! And I grew up in a Presbyterian church. Wild.

@Nazarene_Judaism

5 ай бұрын

ok

@justicebinder6544

5 ай бұрын

@@Nazarene_Judaism yea

The stack of pork that was left in your seminary was very fitting.

@fleebogazeezig6642

5 ай бұрын

On that note, are messianic Jews allowed to eat pork?

@WastelandArmorer

5 ай бұрын

@@fleebogazeezig6642in general, no. But many dont consider it a matter or salvation, but as a voluntary matter or conscience. But there are varying opinions.

@rondaxen88

5 ай бұрын

@@fleebogazeezig6642 According to a quick google search…no, apparently not. They’re not allowed to eat Pork, Shellfish, etc., same as other Jews I suppose.

@Abcdefghijajajaja

5 ай бұрын

@@fleebogazeezig6642we usually don’t.

@joeyhardin5903

3 ай бұрын

@@rondaxen88Google must be wrong then. If they are truly Messianic then they will listen to Jesus when he tells them it's okay to eat whatever

Zoomer really letting the New York accent come out on this one LOL

One of my professors in college is the pastor of a hybrid Messianic Jewish/Southern Baptist congregation. He himself is not Messianic Jewish and the congregation is a mix of both Jews and Gentiles. His theology is incredibly fascinating.

Hehe, Church's Chicken. I'm sorry, I had to. Anyhow, maybe your church needs a Reconquista against the chickens as well? Help reclaim the mainline church and also get us some blessed Chick-fil-A sandwiches as well?

Back in my day that church was still smol!

Praise be to the lord and saviour Jesus Christ. When I was homeless Jesus was the only thing that kept me going

I have never played Minecraft, but I really enjoy these videos and the information you share! Thank you for the time and effort you put into these videos.

Messianic here. I can offer some insight. We consider ourselves to be a bridge between modern day Judaism and modern day Christians. We try to focus more on coming as close to 2nd temple Judaism that Jesus practiced rather than modern Judaism. So neither 2nd temple Sadduces nor Pharisees got it right. Sadduces of 2nd temple time were elected in and not blood line like they were supposed to be. Think John the Baptist. And Pharisees were like synagogue leaders. Modern day Judaism is based mostly on Pharisees because they mostly survived by being near the Galilee as Jerusalem was destroyed. Just like any denomination or faith there are extremes. To make it easier most Hebrew Movement or Jews for Jesus are Messianics. Not all Messianics are Hebrew Movement or Jews for Jesus. Most Messianics do not associate with Hebrew Movement. Especially mainline like UMJC or One for Israel. And yes we believe God is in three parts but one. Hope this helps clear some things up.

I am very appreciative of this content. The clash between Christians and Jews is arguably the most fundamental one of the past 2000 years. How do we love those who reject (and sometimes, even hate) God? From the perspective of an outsider, it seems the Church has not found a clear, unified answer to this conundrum. Enshrined anti-semitism, not least in the teachings of the Church Fathers, and a shift to egalitarian ignorance of the real differences as of Vatican II. Surely, it is these people, those who hate us, who need our love the most? In the complex chaos, the eye of the storm is remembering to love God above all. Beyond this, pride lurks around every corner.

@zjzr08

21 күн бұрын

For the 1st and 2nd century, while there may be turmoil, many Jews who believed in Jesus were proud of their Jewishness, that even Paul said he is still a Pharisee even when he was sharing the word. I'd argue the "schism" started after the destruction of Jerusalem, then Christianity became a Roman state religion, and the Jewishness of the faith got replaced by the Romaness of it, and in repsonse the Pharisees made counter statements against this interperation of Christianity - IMO it's 2 warring factions that seemed more sinister than holy.

I was the man who spawned a few chickens in the church, not sure how there got to be that many

@Abcdefghijajajaja

5 ай бұрын

HAHAHAHAHHA

@MahimaDondapati

5 ай бұрын

🤔

Very good and well-structured video that discusses a controversial subject in a calm and charitable manner.

Also your outro music was amazingly epic so keep up the good work bro

Watching the chickens absolutely tank the FPS is amazing

"At best, evangelicals who say shalom." *LOL*

This insight on what a hebrew expreriences among its own race because of Christ reminds me of stories of the new testament. Your faith is so strong that I admire you Zoomer since you basically are not accepted among your people for Christ.

@justicebinder6544

5 ай бұрын

I’m also a Jewish Christian. I was denied the “birthright” travel to Israel based on my Christian upbringing. It’s really sad how hateful Jews are to Christianity

@markhirsch6301

5 ай бұрын

​@@justicebinder6544 It's kinda our fault because our leaders and people treated them terribly for centuries. Doesn't excuse it nowadays as we've grown as a people, mostly closer to Jesus's teachings.

@antigonarosaura7845

4 ай бұрын

​@@justicebinder6544They are still your people.

@justicebinder6544

4 ай бұрын

@@antigonarosaura7845 didn’t say they aren’t. My family celebrates many of our cultural Jewish holidays still , and I’m proud of my heritage. It’s just hurtful that I’ll always be a bit of an outsider looking in

@antigonarosaura7845

4 ай бұрын

@@justicebinder6544 :)

I came for the sus theology and stayed for the chickens 😂

An entire episode dedicated to chickens in the church would be awesome

Watching this helped me understand why it is difficult for people like Ben Shapiro to come to a decision to convert to Christ or accept arguments like those William Lane Craig gave him during the interview they did.

@zjzr08

21 күн бұрын

The Jewish culture understandably is afraid of Christianity, although most only know of Catholic (and from Eastern Europe diaspora, Orthodox), who did make progroms and had discrimination, but also on the Rabbinic Jewish side tried to emphasize how Jesus isn't the Messiah and that the New Testament is "anti-semitic" - I'd argue many Messianic Jews are brave of reading the New Testament on their own, although many seem to be secular Jews who really haven't been under Rabbinic influence anyway.

Thank you for making helpful educational videos boss. God bless you.

John Harrigan would be another great dialogue partner for this topic. For a layman like me, his historical critique of realized eschatology is very compelling. (He's not a Dispensationalist either)

Interesting fact: In Poland there is a Pentecostal denomination with an Episcopal polity

@kuafer3687

5 ай бұрын

Baptist bishops? Lmao

@noahthenorthern174

5 ай бұрын

What is it called?

@antesemitic8668

5 ай бұрын

@@noahthenorthern174 Polish name of it is "Chrześcijańska Wspólnota Zielonoświątkowa", which can be translate as "Christian Pentecostal Community"

I’m a messianic Jew and you bring up some good points. Me personally I don’t identify as like Jewish as Jews are known today, I’m more like a first century Christian, so I’m a Christian who follows the feast days and is kosher but is in more align with Christian beliefs, I held that Jesus is the messiah and the Son of God. Keep up the good work!

@AristizabalixGrimm

Ай бұрын

Fellow Messianic here. Same.

A concerning ammount of "Messianic" Jews either don't believe that Jesus is God or they believe that He is God but they reject the Trinity.

@Abcdefghijajajaja

5 ай бұрын

Just go to your local messianic Jewish synagogue and ask the rabbi they are a lot a like to Christians

@zjzr08

10 күн бұрын

That sounds like Arianist Messianic Jews to me (which is seen heretical) hehe.

Hey, off topic but can we pray for my sister? She's just come out as trans, and I'm just lost and confused right now.

@redeemedzoomer6053

5 ай бұрын

Praying! I've had SO many female friends fall into that cult and it really hurts. It's a spiritual black hole. Praying earnestly for you and for her

@elijahcandage

5 ай бұрын

@@redeemedzoomer6053 I had an idea, to get some sort of, like, prayer army, if you will, to pray for her. I've been feeling so stressed out about this for the last few months, cause a while back she confessed she had lost her faith. She was the most faithful Christian I knew a few years ago, she said she used to tremble when she prayed and it used to be that I would trust her with my life. I'm so stressed, I don't even know how to carry on. I can barely imagine moving on from this.

@younglingslayer1

5 ай бұрын

You should do your best to protect her from satanist brainwashing

@CCI320

5 ай бұрын

@@redeemedzoomer6053 liberalism is a black hole of degeneracy, because I live in a big city in the south and do no know any one who fell into the trans cult. Its definitely the environment fueling it.

HE IS AND IS AND IS TO COME!

Take me back to vine! "Look at all those chicken"

Wise decisions all around. I don't have as recent Jewish ancestry as you, but my grandma's family was Ashkenazi origin and my wife's Sephardic. She's Mexican so hers is even further back to the conquistador times, but they still retained cultural things like not eating pork up until just 50 years ago. I feel the same way you do, denying Jesus isn't an option, I'm Methodist and she's Catholic, we both couldn't turn back on Jesus and embrace Judaism.

I enjoyed the N.T. Wright dialogue with Mark Kinzer a few years back, but all I really want for Christmas is a RZ dialogue with Gerald McDermott (you can.connect around church history), David Rudolph (you can connect around TX seminary life) or Jen Rosner (you can connect around Barth)

cool cathedral. I actually visited many cathedrals in Spain a few years ago.

bro got chicken-bombed. Very informative video - I had no clue about how modern Judaism started until today. btw, is KingdomCraft still able to be joined, or is it only for people who are whitelisted, and locked?

Presbyterian, pentecostal, Messianic Jew. This guys found the glitch to stack up skins

"...pentecostal Presbyterians. " "What!?" "Yeah you heard me right." 🤣

As someone who has been with AG, on the Pentecostal side of life, I can agree and can see that there have been some “head scratches” with theology in regard to how sloppy the gifts of the Spirits are handled

I love your channel and all your videos! You have helped me learn a lot about theology. Do you think you could make a video on why you’re not part of the church of Christ denomination? I’m thinking about switching from a Baptist church to a church of Christ church.

@Abcdefghijajajaja

5 ай бұрын

Omg no!!! Stay away from that He has made a video about them. No.

Greetings from another Christian Hebrew! I am Anglican because there are no other orthodox cllasical protestants in Jerusalem but I grew up in a Messianic Jewish context.

Michael Brown is the second pentecostal messianic jew i found on youtube if Sid Roth is also one.

One of the thing that I noticed is the rise of the Hebrew roots movement. The movement started with the Millerites and then the Sabbaterean movement that emerge after the Great Disappointment like Seven Day Adventist and Church of God Seventh Day. Then Armstrongism emerged soon after that hold to British Israelism/ Ephraimite Movement.

I am in the same boat as you. I was Jewish and I became a Christian. My relationship with my Judaism is complicated.

@SirdanielCR

5 ай бұрын

What made you accept Christ? I’m Jewish and confused

@Abcdefghijajajaja

5 ай бұрын

Makes no sense

@zjzr08

10 күн бұрын

If it's mainline Judiasm I think it's fair, as many Messianic Jews have big criticism particularly with the Talmud for example (especially things that seemingly contradict the Old Testament) - as long as it's roots are from 2nd Temple Judaism to now Christianity but acknowledging Jewish culture and history, I think you're still a Jew to me.

This was very interesting. One of my issues I struggle with as a Christian trying to figure everything out and get it right, is the Old Testament, has a bit of a Jewish supremacy bend to it, and I see that mindset expressed in many modern Jewish groups. But your idea here of it being more Christian in nature, and the modern Jewish doctrine being more aligned with the Pharisees seems to be that missing piece, I was struggling with. I knew something was off between what We believe vs the modern Jewish doctrines, and it led me to more dismiss the stuff that felt more like modern Jewish ideas in the old testament, and try to embrace the ones that felt more like the New Testament. I think viewing it all as not the Jews are the chosen people being talked about, but those who follow church doctrine are, is going to open up more how I view the Old Testament as a whole going forward. It will take some time to fully gather my thoughts on it all, but this was a good push towards a new direction for me.

@AWSMcube

5 ай бұрын

Read an OT translation based on the Septuagint/Latin Vulgate/Dead Sea Scrolls/Syriac Peshitta - you may have read a version based on the Masoretic Text. The MT is a Hebrew re-translation of older non-Hebrew sources compiled in the 7th-10th centuries AD by Jewish scribes, so it can sometimes be prone to an anti-Christian bias. There are a few demonstrable translation differences between it and older sources; where the LXX, DSS, and Peshitta say "they pierced my hands and feet," in Psalm 22:16, the MT says "Like a lion, they are at my hands and my feet," due to a translation error (probably not intentional, but it still takes away from the meaning and removes the prophesy alluding to Jesus). Most English Bible translations use a mix of all the sources I listed previously, including MT, so Psalm 22:16 may still use the better, older translation of that verse in your Bible while still partially basing itself on the MT. The Septuagint and DSS are probably the closest you are going to get to what Jesus quotes in the NT

@yagopone7404

5 ай бұрын

I personally feel that abrahams test with isaiah is enough evidence that it was only fsith in god that brought us the abrahamic line. There are also a lot of verses that emphasize how NOT special ethnic Jews are. There is even a case to be made, that god purposely uses irony in his choice of prophets to make a point. Its not effort, skill, or blood that leads to salvation. Its god, himself. Personally, I do not believe the Jews of today are part of the abrahamic line. At least directly, but scripture says the "branch has been cut" as they swore Christ's blood on their heads and their children's heads in Mark. They reflect the Canaanites more than Jesus and his nazarite heritage. The current state of Israel even did a mock(?) Child sacrifice to a giant statue of molek. For a better rabbit hole, I recommend Sefaria or ComeAndHear's Talmud, which has a cavalcade of gut-churching pages like the permission of rape of three year olds in Sanhedrin 54b.

@lorenzorodriguez8031

5 ай бұрын

ISRAEL IS THE APPLE OF GODS EYE...SO HE SOUNDS LIKE PROMOTING REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY😮

@dunedainmom

5 ай бұрын

MT is not a retranslation. Even the vowel pattern tradition (not written till the masoretes) matches ancient Semitic languages not discovered till the last millenia. We studied the evolution of Hebrew with an agnostic atheist proff, and it was fascinating. (Check out Polak's noun to verb analysis on dating books of the Bible, goes against modern JDEP theory) Comparing the MT with the dead sea scrolls, they match to an extremely degree. When they thought there was an error, they copied it into the margin, the qree and the ktiv. The oft-referenced "like a lion phrase is literally the difference between a vav and a yodh. They're pretty identical in calligraphy bit for the length of the tail. When I was studying, medieval Hebrew manuscripts the handwriting is such that the yodhs and vavs were pretty darn similar (like how high you trail up you lowercase d's, depending on the handwriting)

@dunedainmom

5 ай бұрын

Also, septuagint had a flavor to it rationalizing numbers, timeliness, etc. Especially Genesis. It has a distinct impression of Greco-Roman rationalism in it.

Hebrew Roots Movement is a cross between Armstrongism, Sacred Name Movement, and Messianic Judaism. I used to be an Armstrongite. Armstrongites observed the Saturday Sabbath and the festivals of Leviticus 23, as well as some other portions of the Mosaic Covenant. Their understanding was very flawed and they were heretical, but ironically I was born-again while attending there, and remained for ten years afterwards before moving on to evangelical Christianity. I am now a Particular Baptist. I am not dispensational, though, so you can save your contempt for Johnny Mac 😁😁😁

15:26 When I remember there's these things in Pentecostal churches, I remember that thing you made about Pentecostals valuing Scripture and experience, discarding that thing of tradition and reason from our Methodist roots. The thing is: when one discards tradition, one is prone to forget that one is a Christian; when one discards reason and focuses on experience, then they awe at the beauty of the Jewish forms and art at the OT, forgetting that the people who still hold to that should embrace their true Messiah, and then they embrace that aesthetics, which is kind of cool, but doesn't glorify God as much. Also, I suddenly remember that "Bible-Belt" Christians post where the Jews are the "Honorary Christians".

Wow. I got here just in time to leave a comment you might see and Like 😂 Pentecostal here! I have been enjoying your conent ever since warching you about a week ago.

For differences in Messianic Judaism, Hebrew Roots, and Pronomian Christian I think you would enjoy a conversation with Caleb Hegg. He's a Pronomian Baptist and has put a lot of research into that area.

@Abcdefghijajajaja

5 ай бұрын

YESSSSS

Hey Redeemed Zoomer, thanks for accepting me in your discord server earlier today... Off topic but I think you'll be interested in the Cain Ridge revival in Kentucky... a group of Presbyterian, baptist and Methodist pastors preached on tree stumps, hills etc around town...it ended up becoming this intense Pentacostal revival lol. I want to know your thoughts. Pentacostals didnt start out in the early 1950s...like alot of people presumptuously think I kind of thiught that..but apparently the first actual movement was this intense ecumenical like spiritual breakthrough like the late 1700s... thoughts...🤯

Thank you! I've been struggling to understand the word "Jewish". Was it refer to the the ethical group, the religious group, how did they intertwine with one another? Your video helps me understand it better.

@MahimaDondapati

5 ай бұрын

I have in clue! Can someone help me here?

@MahimaDondapati

5 ай бұрын

*no clue

@PetrovichErochin

10 күн бұрын

@@MahimaDondapati the answer is both. Jews are a religious group and an ethnicity at the same time. If your mother is jewish, you are jewish for life, if you convert to judaism, you are also a part of tribe

I've been wrestling with this for a while, I'm very happy to see this video

@Abcdefghijajajaja

5 ай бұрын

Redeemed zoomer has little understanding of messianic Judaism don’t let his opinions rule your life

@2015BLOXXER

5 ай бұрын

@@Abcdefghijajajajahold up, let him cook 🔥

All those chickens is probably gonna be my friend and I on Farming Simulator 22 in the near future. He wants a chicken coop

Very interesting! I didn't really stop to consider that modern judaism is just the religion of the pharisees, and I had no idea modern judaism is so strongly against Christianity, to the point that they accept people who believe in a messiah, but have a huge prejudice against people who believe in Jesus, specifically.

@dunedainmom

5 ай бұрын

There was, um, the whole forced conversions, pogroms, etc. Some bad blood back there, with trying to get Jews to get with the program. Jews also are very unhappy about people converting to Islam. Bad blood and persecution (dhimmis) there too.

@dunedainmom

5 ай бұрын

Even Luther's "against the jews" thing First he said "ofcourse jews didn't convert! Catholic church has problems" Then he tried to convert the jews. Came home and wrote his angry Jewish writings. There are centuries of bad history between jews and the ruling powers (christian and muslim). Whenever you have a religious minority ruled by a religious majority, things get spicy. (E.g. Huguenot under Catholic France, or the Massacre of the Latins (catholics under orthodox). Etc. There's a lot of not great things that happened to the jews under Christian europe and under muslim middle east.

@user-ji1hb7wy8d

5 ай бұрын

@@dunedainmom Oh... well that sucks. It's sad that so many bad people gave (and still give) Christianity a bad rep

@Jupiter__001_

Ай бұрын

​@@user-ji1hb7wy8d Don't be mistaken, they hated Christ and Christians before Christianity even became accepted in Rome. It's written in the Talmud that they believe Christ is boiling in a pot of fæces and urine in Hell. Nice.

@zjzr08

10 күн бұрын

If you're open check out Golan Broshi's audio vids about the "Christian Roots of the Rabbinic Faith" which shows the fascinating history of how Rabbinic Judaism developed and how at times it did try to make counter-Christian explanations (making a negative feedback loop).

Another great video Zoomer.

You should review the "Marching to Zion" documentary. It was produced by a non-dispensationalist Independent Fundamental Baptist church.

I would love to see you have a convo with Rabbi Eduardo @radarapologetics He seems to affirm all the creeds and had good theology but wants to honor the traditions of his ancestors.

@catfinity8799

5 ай бұрын

The traditions that Jesus didn't like?

@Abcdefghijajajaja

5 ай бұрын

@@catfinity8799what are you talking about

@dunedainmom

5 ай бұрын

@catfinity8799 Jesus said this... (Matt 5:17-19) Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven...

@bryce8418

5 ай бұрын

@@catfinity8799from what I’ve seen Rabbi Eduardo tries to stay true to the old testament traditions. Aka the traditions Jesus followed and the laws he kept.

@ChezThefootballer

5 ай бұрын

@catfinity8799 Yeah the same ones he followed 🤣

This is a very timely video. A little over a week ago I met a girl who'd broken up with her boyfriend who was a Messianic Jew and I actually told here that she should check out this channel since I am very not good at explaining Christianity to people.

@Abcdefghijajajaja

5 ай бұрын

What is her problem with that?

@CptManboobs

5 ай бұрын

@@Abcdefghijajajaja From what I understand, it was less of a break up and more she got dumped. I didn't pry into the issue because its not my business, but she asked me a bunch of questions about Jesus and religion and just sorta tried to do the best I could to answer.

@zjzr08

10 күн бұрын

Is the girl a Jew because the break up may be because the guy became Messianic; if the girl is a Gentile then maybe the girl was actually not Christian/Messianic Jew and maybe the guy thought it isn't a good fit ("don't equally yoke with an unbeliver" observance).

My pastor is currently preaching through Galatians and Paul’s dealing with the Judaizers in his day. Fun timing for this video

@Abcdefghijajajaja

5 ай бұрын

He probably believes in replacement theology

@InquisitorJack

5 ай бұрын

@@Abcdefghijajajaja I highly doubt it given we just finished Exodus a few weeks back. He's been emphasizing that 1) Paul was fully qualified as an Apostle of Christ and not reliant on men for authority 2) The Gospel is Faith Alone, in Christ Alone, and 3) Even Peter, the rock on which Christ said He would build His church could err and we should simultaneously not blindly exalt human leadership nor despair in our failings, if we repent of them.

I never heard of this side of of Messianic Judaism before, but now I think about it, it wouldn’t surprise if Sid Roth from “it’s Supernatural” was a messianic Jew with a Pentecostal audience. My main exposure to messianic Jews is one of my favourite KZread channels at the moment called Torah Class. What I like about this movement is that imo the best Torah observing Christians that know Jewish culture are among the closest thing we have to 1st century Christianity. They offer a lot of insight when they interpret the Bible.

19:16 the chicken massacre of 2023

Why is the frame rate so low Flashback to your old videos

In a video between Ben Shapiro (Orthodox Jew) and Matt Fradd (Catholic) about the P word, Ben identified himself as a pharrasidic Jew in it near the end of the video. Actually from my understanding the Synagogue was really a communal gathering place (Beyit Kinneset aka house of assembly) until the second temple was destroyed. So I guess if you wanted to celebrate your Jewishness and be in a traditional Church. Go to church and an old OLD school synagogue.

Minor thing: Being technical, the Jewisj religion starts during Moses, as prior to that there was no organized Jewish religion.

11:00 My guy just debunked his own denomination, and most modern protestant denominations

@adams8467

5 ай бұрын

Are you saying protestant don't believe in the trinity, or am I missing something ?

@lichwood4429

5 ай бұрын

@@adams8467 Your comprehenshion skills needs some improvement. I'm a protestant myself. I was joking that the criticism he made against Messianic Judaism, (about how many of their leaders don't believe in the essentials) is the exact same criticism he shares with his own denomination and most mainline protestant churches.

@user-xk8gb8eu6i

5 ай бұрын

So that's why he wants to retake the protestant church

They aren't chickens in your church- They're gossiping Hens :O lol

So if he kills the chickens in the seminary does that count as a sacrifice? Lol

Hey man I've been watching you for a while and I'd love To hear your story, how did you convert To Christianity?

@danielutriabrooks477

5 ай бұрын

He was always a Christian, but of the semi-secular, northern East Coast type, he then went to the midwest and how much more active they were in their faith, and decided to follow that path

@Upholstered_

5 ай бұрын

But was his mom Jewish?

@danielutriabrooks477

5 ай бұрын

​​@@Upholstered_His father was Christian, of his mother, I don't remember

@Testimony_Of_JTF

5 ай бұрын

@@Upholstered_ No, as far as I know. That would just mean he has Jewish blood but is not part of the tribe for them.

@Upholstered_

5 ай бұрын

I think that in Judaism no matter what you do if you're born a jew, you are a jew even if you believe in Jesus/Muhammad

Thank you 👍

St. Zoomer who drove out the chickens from Kingdom craft

You’re like if Marty McFly’s dad was a Presbyterian.

What are philosophical and theological interpretations for all the chickens in your seminary?

Thoughts on Hebrew roots movement? Heard some controversies coming from there. Don't know what tho.

@Abcdefghijajajaja

5 ай бұрын

It’s a lil wack …. Messianic synagogue is beautiful tho, different but sometimes associated sadly…

I am ethnically Jewish but honestly I only study the Torah to understand the new testament

@redeemedzoomer6053

4 ай бұрын

Based ❤

God bless

when's that denominational competition video coming out?

RZ: “I’m not a dispensationalist because I’m a Presbyterian” Lewis Sperry Chafer: …

The chickens have discovered the truth

I am ethnically Greek but I have a Jewish last name and I am a Greek Orthodox Christian. (I would happily be any orthodox they’re all great, Greek Orthodox at the moment is low key the worst.)

Very relatable experience. Also iirc Arnold Fruchtenbaum was perma kicked from Israel for trying to convert jews to Messianic Judaism because the leaders viewed the mass conversion to anything related to Christianity as another jewish genocide.

@zjzr08

10 күн бұрын

Is that the main cause because there are many Messianic Jewish congregations in Israel and are free to share their word (although there was a stumbling block few years ago with certain bills there).

@SchloopieShipoopi

4 күн бұрын

@@zjzr08 what i was talking about happened in the 70s or 80s i think so maybe it has progressed since then but idk tbh

I have heard that they claim the angel of the lord is actually Archangel Gabriel and that he just quotes the exact words of god. By the way could you also make a video about the people who claim that the lords name is yahua and Jesus's name is yahusha May God bless you and all of us and give us knowledge 🙏

@user-xk8gb8eu6i

5 ай бұрын

That's just Hebrew pronunciation of Jovah and Jesus. Btw, Jesus means Joshua or Josh the Messiah.

@saulniceman4860

5 ай бұрын

@@user-xk8gb8eu6i i know that jesus and Joshua are names with same roots but i dont understand why they want so bad to pronounce the names in this way so much Not only that but I think they even pronounce yahua wrong i think the correct way is YeHuVaH but basically we don't know exactly how the ancient Hebrews pronounced it we can only find out grammatically

@user-xk8gb8eu6i

5 ай бұрын

@@saulniceman4860 that may be some mistranslation from latin to english. The letter 'J' pronouns as Y in most latin even germanic language. The pronunciation of J in english is actually Gi

@user-xk8gb8eu6i

5 ай бұрын

@@saulniceman4860 of cause, there are jews and muslim use the name Joshua to denie the divinity of Christ. But in your case, it's probably some latin language speaking guy

Good video as always, Zoomer.

If you could cover Young Don Reborn's video on the trinity being false (2 college bros debate) I would appreciate it.

@BenjaminTurpin-vl9nz

5 ай бұрын

Maybe your on to something

All of Israel will be saved Im a Messianic Jew from a Open Bretheren background We use the label messianic instead of Christian although it basically the same mostly for missionary purposes to distance ourselves from the Christian persecution of the jews I enjoy your videos alot Thank you!

What’s the chapter/verse for “God will send God” in Zechariah that he mentions around 6:40?

@teleportingparadox7340

3 ай бұрын

Probably Zechariah 2:11

shit i wished i saw this video 2 weeks earlier bc im a messianic jew and i love your videos. ill keep editing this comment as i watch edit: yeah idk why mess. jews want to align with other jews so much. as an ethnic Jew i find other Jews to be very cringe (for reasons you stated) to put it lightly edit 2: while I'm ethnically Jewish i believe if your salvation relies on your view in the Messiah and the trinity then i don't think anything physical defines your relationship with God messianic or otherwise edit 3: i have no idea who the Hebrew roots guys are but it sounds like they should figure their thing out if that's the case. edit 4: i have mixed feelings about the messianic synagogues I've visited so far so i get why you'd feel that way. personally i believe that because Jesus did not do away with the old covenants but renewed them so i still follow the Sabbath, celebrate all biblical observances, eat kosher (technically parve) etc... but if i come across a church aligned with things like that I'll definitely take a look (wouldn't mind a recommendation). Christian or Jewish the naming convention isn't really important to me i mostly care about the good news of Jesus edit 5: i think you're taking about Michael Rood? not sure I've only seen a bit of his stuff

@zjzr08

10 күн бұрын

Are most Jews in America actually Orthodox or are they Secular - most Jews in Israel what I know are Secular) because I think Messianic Jews in Israel wants to stay close with other Jews as I observe Secular Jews are actually more open to the New Testament than Orthodox (IMO because of Talmud).

@stupidw33b52

10 күн бұрын

@@zjzr08 in my experience most Jews in America are secular and want nothing to do with religion being either agnostic or straight up atheist. it's pretty nonsensical in my opinion

@zjzr08

10 күн бұрын

@@stupidw33b52 I see, so you say they may be close minded than Israeli Jews, seeing American Jews may have anti-religious bias in general (I heard many Messianic Jews originally were spiritual seekers that tried New Age or Buddhist beliefs).