Great video Mike, agreed on all points. It does raise an interesting question though. How does a well-established act (like Dream Theater, but plenty of others apply) remain innovative and shake things up late in their career? If what you release is too different from what fans expect you risk alienating a large portion of your fanbase. (I'm an Opeth fan, I prefer their pre-Heritage stuff. I'm sure you remember that drama.) Dream Theater has the added challenge of using a lot of different elements in their songs already, across many albums, so its easy for them to be derivative of themselves. Not trying to defend them but its an interesting problem that every successful musical act struggles with eventually. How would you approach that challenge?

@BecomeTheKnight

2 жыл бұрын

All of this 👍👍🤘🤘🔥🔥

@jb_50w78

2 жыл бұрын

All the members of DT are approaching retirement age. They can easily just take it easy and stop releasing new albums or just retire completely. But they just like playing music and they are just making the music they like to make. They already have more classic and amazing albums than most other bands and there is nothing they need to do to prove themselves. Most other musical artists would have stopped making music at this point. I think it’s a good thing they still want to record and perform music.

@necroplastful

2 жыл бұрын

That is why I despise the people that shat all over The Astonishing. That ruined dt for me

@jb_50w78

2 жыл бұрын

@@necroplastful so if DT does something different like the Astonishing, the fans hate it, but if they do something similar to typical DT albums, the fans hate it. They can never win.

@jb_50w78

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelflorczyk1394 Portnoy left DT in 2010. That was 11 years ago. They need to get over that already. DT has one of the worst fanbases ever and they can be so annoying and irritating.

The more I've listened to the song the more I've liked it, don't think it's one of their better songs but I dig it. Biggest plus is Mangini on the drums, he hasn't sounded this good on any of the previous DT records.

@sander10

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thought. It's not one of their best, but it's very good

@beanman2206

2 жыл бұрын

even if the drum sound was terrible i thought he did an amazing job on the self titled

@michaelflorczyk1394

2 жыл бұрын

@@beanman2206 I totally agree! He complemented the music 100% perfectly on self titled. I don't get the pure hate, he's a master's master. Even though I prefer Portnoy's style and touch, I still adore Mangini's style and how his music fits the composition.

@allendean9807

2 жыл бұрын

This is true; the let him off the chain on this track…

@subutaynoyan5372

2 жыл бұрын

We've a term in Turkey: ''Just fart it out and line them one by one'', usually something you'd say to mock something redundant being continiously done by some person or people. This song is exactly that. Just fucking banal at this point, nothing of it is even slightly exciting, same old DT loop we're expected to be elated about.

Someone described it as "like something made by a random Dream Theater song generator", and I have to agree.

Mike 8 months later: “Okay guys maybe it was just a phase or something but I’m in love again”

@N3rdGamerProductions

2 жыл бұрын

whatever gets the KZread clicks for the meantime

@conniethesconnie

2 жыл бұрын

I am that way too. I find a band love their sound. Listen to them every day, then I burn myself out and get tired of them.

@raitoxote

2 жыл бұрын

Anything for feedig the algorithm

@wpgspecb

2 жыл бұрын

@@conniethesconnie Im not sure its possible for me to get tired of any band that I love. I never understood that mentality of people. Things dont stop being good.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

2 жыл бұрын

@@wpgspecb It may not stop being good, but you can still get fatigued from it. It's like eating a delicious meal, if you keep eating it every single day, you're gonna want variety at some point even if it's consistently good every single time, it's just a matter of wanting something different after a certain point.

Much respect to Mike for being able to be critical of one of his favorites artist

Since nobody asked, I'll give my opinion. This is the best DT song since something from a dramatic turn of events. I feel they haven't done anything this good since then. Still, this is a very DT style DT song. I really like it, but I can totally see your point of view. That said, I really hope there is some more interesting and unique stuff on the full record.

@ScottAndersonYT

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more. Best output since ADTOE for sure but I’m not hugely impressed by the general typical DT style that’s become repetitive.

@lolalolly5194

2 жыл бұрын

Come on man. Breaking all Illusions?

@caduaraujo331

2 жыл бұрын

started listening to dt recently, and a dramatic turn of events is indeed absolutely fantastic.

@danlc95

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Mangini's drumming was fantastic on that one. People hat the sounds on it, but I like that it doesn't have that triggered/sampled sounds they used after. This new release has great times and sounds.

@hichaelhighers

2 жыл бұрын

@@lolalolly5194 is on ADTOE, he said since ADTOE

This is very on the point. My initial reaction to this song was exactly the same: I've heard this before. Thanks for proving me right. That being said: It's pretty amazing that these guys can whip up something that makes long-time fans feel like they're not even trying anymore, and it's still on a level that very few others can manage. "Mum, what's for dinner?" "Filet mignon" "Nooo, not filet mignon again..." We are a spoiled bunch.

@deantalbotdrums

2 жыл бұрын

“Makes SOME long term fans feel...”, don’t you mean? Speak for yourself.

@matankesselman456

2 жыл бұрын

And then when mum makes something else the kids complain

@Frankthegb

2 жыл бұрын

He didn't prove anything, he just validated your opinion. DT didn't write this for you. They wrote it for themselves and whoever would like it. Get over it.

This reminds me when Dream Theater released a song called Never Enough when in a muse-like style they shout at the fans that they can't make everyone happy no matter what they do, released in 2005 has the same meaning today. There is people who simply has expectations that cannot be filled anymore. Specially those still stuck on Images and Words and Metropolis pt 2 released 30 years ago

@chuckratkay43

6 ай бұрын

Never Enough is AWESOME 🤟

@DiegoTorres-iw5kn

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, one of my favorite Octarvarium songs 😅, anyways... Release images and words 2 and metropolis part 3

I mean, it's totally understandable, Metallica is my favorite band of all time, and I literally dont care for much of anything they did in the past decade, other than a few things here and there. Being a fan of a band doesnt me you have to love everything they do.

@conormurphy4328

2 жыл бұрын

Aww come on you should at least cut your own band some slack

@bassemkarame2510

2 жыл бұрын

exactly. i hate thank you scientist's latest album. i mean hate is a strong word, but it was way worse than the first 2

@DovahVokuna

2 жыл бұрын

I only hate Lulu and dislike ST anger. Last 2 albums are really good i think.

@sanderzijl3605

2 жыл бұрын

@@bassemkarame2510 Bro terraformer was amazing

@rangamsarmah2061

2 жыл бұрын

@@DovahVokuna I really love death magnetic. Hardwired was meh for me

If 8 minutes MAX on SSF goes for 150 dollars then Mike just gave y'all 500 dollars of content for FREE, beeyatches better recognize!

Something else I want to get off my mind. Some praise Dream Theater for their heavier parts and kind of frown at the "cheesy" post-chorus stuff. Me? I love the post-chorus parts! I'd eat that cheese all day, every day! Dream Theater are absolutely elite at creating those pop/power ballad melodies (too). The ability to switch between those two modes is one of the strengths and trademarks of this band and I think it's also why they've become as big as they have. I guess what I'm saying is: "I'm all about that cheese, 'bout that cheese 'bout that cheese (no chugging)" ;)

@lucasimmons075

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. The guys in the band are all extremely talented and virtuosos, but I feel that they play into their talent way too much. I think some of their best work is when they are playing slower, melodic "power ballad" stuff that allows them to focus their genius on making an incredible song and not just technical shit for the sake of doing technical shit. That's why Scenes from a Memory was so good; it wasn't just about the heavy stuff. They had a ton of melodic parts throughout the album that work so well because of fantastic melodies, progressions and harmonies. The last three songs are perfect examples of this.

@CompleteProducer84

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucasimmons075 Yeah, 100%. Without The Spirit Carries On, Through Her Eyes and One Last Time to settle the mood, SFAM would not be the masterpiece it is. In fact, it would become tiring without a break in the (awesome) chaos that is Beyond This Life, Home, The Dance of Eternity, etc. Similarly, DT would NOT be DT without CLASSICS like Another Day, Space Dye Vest, The Silent Man, etc. It is this dichotomy between relentless metal and beautiful, catchy ballads that has made them the biggest prog metal band of this generation

@MykeLewisMusic

2 жыл бұрын

There's a reason Images and Words is held in high regard, and it's because of the dynamics between cheese and heavy. "Another Day" is a good example. Sure, the first half is .....meh.... (okay, I love it, whatever) but when they go into the big epic part that you're supposed to hold your lighter up for at concerts, that part is so goddam fun!

I've been a Dream Theater fan for about a decade. I like The Alien a lot, kind of BECAUSE it's "Dream Theater by numbers" which just came together in a way that worked for me in THIS song. To the people who did *not* like The Alien, a word of encouragement: Dream Theater's laurels rest on their albums. To me, no other way makes more sense for listening to their work other than to put one of the records on front-to-back. That's not to say I don't just pop a song or two on from time to time! And as a result, I have more than a handful of DT songs I dislike. I Walk Beside You is probably my least favourite song in their entire discography. I would never put it on on its own. But in the context of Octavarium? I think it works beautifully and the album flows through it perfectly. See how you feel about The Alien as part of a larger piece.

@bigman6542

2 жыл бұрын

How, in the name of all that is Holy, out of their entire discography, you choose I Walk Beside You as their worst work

@thezachmarsh

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigman6542 Uhhh I don't know that's not exactly a hot take? A lot of people don't like that song.

@dodgrblu

Жыл бұрын

i walk beside you is a great song, ive played it numerous times, not part of the album

13:58 That's exactly how I'd describe this entire song: Dream Theater by numbers. It feels like they had no real ideas and resorted to using old tropes and ideas to churn out a new Dream Theater song. It's just Dream Theater for the sake of being Dream Theater. I don't think it's a bad song, it's ok I guess, but that's hardly a compliment.

@MaxRamos8

2 жыл бұрын

In other words, they have become the 'Nickelback' of metal

17:32 the mode they use would be Dorian #4, the fourth mode of harmonic minor. And yes I'm a self aware fucking nerd

I've been listening to them for around like 10 years and I completely agree with you. To me, it feels like the 2 year album/tour cycle is taking its toll on them. Since Systematic Chaos they haven't been experimenting with genres or styles outside what they've been doing for a while. I don't know if it's a contract they have or whatever, but the more time passes the more I think Portnoy was right when he thought they needed a break. They release around 9 songs every 2 years, most of them way over 5 minutes long, extremely complex. I feel like their songs lately are mostly execution based, like exercises they stick together with some general melodic idea. These kinds of songs need time to be written carefully, trimmed here and there, evolved. Like you said, it's nothing bad, just not that original by a band who used to be in their best years. It feels as if they release everything they write, but sometimes it's better to choose the best you have been writing for 6 years than release everything you come up with every 2.

@alexandernilssonmusic

Жыл бұрын

Wholeheartedly agree! The Astonishing was something new and I applaud them for doing that, but overall, yeah, I feel a total stagnation. Where are the days of Six Degrees when they tried all sorts of cool new sounds and stuff? I miss those days. They don’t have anything to prove to themselves anymore, maybe that’s the problem, they just need to keep the show going because it’s their livelihood. Portnoy brought a musical edge to band I sorely miss. Mangini is awesome at what he does, but Portnoy had so much more than just the drumming.

totally agree. its a burnout formula. dream theater have been loosing their song orientation, groove, "free space" starting with kevin moore, Derek Sherenian, and of course MP leaving was a huge loss

Hey it’s that guy who hates Dream Theater… get him!!!

@jhardyrules

2 жыл бұрын

Heretic!

@El__Leche

2 жыл бұрын

@@jhardyrules DEMON HEART BLEED FOR US

@47.000

2 жыл бұрын

Oh you're talking about... Everyone??

@leoMC4384

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody hates Dream Theater more than the fans.

My first impression was much the same - good song but nothing we haven't heard from Dream Theater in the past. My hope is that, like Distance Over Time, the real gems get revealed as the album comes out. Untethered Angel was a quality song, but Pale Blue Dot and At Wit's End were the standout tracks on that album. I'm expecting the same with the new album. I'm sure I'll like it, I don't think Dream Theater has ever released a "bad" album but, taken on it's own, The Alien is pretty middle of the road.

@Adrmeisterwerk

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think Dream Theater has ever released a "bad" album yeah we just never consider The Astonishing as a DT album

@curtisdarby7306

2 жыл бұрын

@@Adrmeisterwerk Biggest disappointment ever! I even went to that concert as was bored as hell! Still best band ever!

@juanchoteado5046

2 жыл бұрын

"I don't think Dream Theater has ever released a 'bad' album" The Astonishing: "am I nothing to you?"

@MykeLewisMusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@Adrmeisterwerk That was the first DT record to actually put me to sleep. I tried, I really did.

The way I see it, your analysis is more or less an acknowledgement of Dream Theater knowing their audience and what they tend to like hearing from them. It might be a case of them falling into what I like to call the AC/DC effect, but I can't say I'm complaining because it still sounds good to me either way. And that's why I always look forward to when they announce a new album.

@MaxRamos8

2 жыл бұрын

In other words, they have become the 'Nickelback' of metal

@YouGot2BeKitten

2 жыл бұрын

@@MaxRamos8 This is the most extreme reaction to a song that could ever exist. DT at their worst is still not in any way comparable to Nickelback. DT didn’t sell out, they didn’t sacrifice their sound to please the masses like Nickelback did.

@zerpblerd5966

2 жыл бұрын

so they write music for their fanbois, not themselves ? uninspired, soulless

@themetalhead1463

2 жыл бұрын

@@YouGot2BeKitten Nickekback didn’t sell out. They always sucked.

"Again I think it's rooted back to Metropolis Pt 1." I can't stop laughing.

All this video did is remind me of how amazing dream theater is, every single song you cut to is an absolute masterpiece.

@deantalbotdrums

2 жыл бұрын

Well said!

@rogerchavez2531

2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely hated the last few albums from them, had no interest in listening to them. This song came out and it caught my attention. Started back listening to all thier other mangini stuff. This is a true meld of Magini with the band.

@harveydents

2 жыл бұрын

totally agree. This guy just seems kinda jealous

@AlexAnteroLammikko

2 жыл бұрын

@@harveydents Thats funny. Assume you don't wathc a lot of his content? He has been a fan of Dream theater for a long, long time and introduced a lot of his fanbase to them. So him critiquing this comes from a fans perspective who either wants something different or has so over indulged on their stuff that anything that alludes to it, instead of sounding nostalgic, just sounds like "been there, done that". And that's a fair perspective. This is, after all, titled "Why I AM bored of dream theater" and not "why Dream Theater is boring now"

@Scp716creativecommons

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlexAnteroLammikko ill ditto a well said, but hitch it on dis horse, for the content of the discourse

They always release a fairly safe one for the first single- one that is instantly recognizable as Dream Theater. You made some really good points for sure. I think as a drummer, I just really fell in love with it right away. I also was blown away by the mix.

@michaelflorczyk1394

2 жыл бұрын

Mangini's kit sounded monstrous. I loved it, and I'm super eager to start learning this song ASAP

@tomh4244

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure this one is a "safe one", generally, they release a song that's very accessible to everyone first and keep the really prog stuff for later, a safe song is "barstool warrior' for exemple, not "pale blue dot", The Alien is more pale blue than barstool, super prog 9mn song with crazy time signatures everywhere, i think one of the 6mn songs are the "safe ones", but nop, they didn't go that route this time.

@munton5150

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomh4244 get ready then... because I believe this album is going to be off the hook in terms of complexity based on this first release. One possibility is that this is the safest track on the album to release as a first single.

@tomh4244

2 жыл бұрын

@@munton5150 you never know i guess ;)

@jacobmiller5965

2 жыл бұрын

This is easily the best Dream Theater mix I think I've ever heard tbh. I love the way all the synths fit in, the drums are clear, the bass is clear, Labrie sounds just as good and clear as ever. Everything fits in place perfectly

I'm in the boat where I've never really been able to get into Dream Theater whatsoever. I can tell they're all insanely talented musicians and songwriters, but idk, there's just something about them (idk what it is) that doesn't really click for me.

@michaelflorczyk1394

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I was in your position two years ago, but I became a DT fanatic once I gave them 3 chances. It seriously took 3 tries and it finally clicked. Give Images another listen, and try songs like Solitary Shell and Take Away My Pain. You will notice their catalogue has a nice balance between simple pieces and technical pieces that makes the listening experience much more enjoyable. Just give it another shot. I had to do that with Opeth too, took me a while to get into the death metal stuff, but now I love it.

@luisnunes3863

2 жыл бұрын

Personally, though I love technically challenging music, when the narrative dimension is gone, so am I. Something like Luca Turilli's Rhapsody, Wintersun or Ayeron is about my sweet spot.

@johnanthonyp

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I more than appreciate their marvelous musicianship but like listening to a lengthy jazz piece, I tune out or get bored and switch it for something more direct and attention grabbbing.

@joshuafult84

2 жыл бұрын

Their vocalist is by far their weakest link ruins any chance of me getting into the band

@revonfyll

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuafult84 The first song I heard from them was Metropolis and LaBries voice put me off from the band for a bit. But I was really into growls at the time and his soft vocals gave me insecurity in my masculinity. But listen to the acapella of Images and Words and you'll realize that at the time Labrie was a monstrous singer. Definitely not the weakest link of the band

i just discovered dream theater a week ago and as a big pink floyd fan its the beginning of a beautiful friendship.

At the end of the video I wanted to hear “Unless Dream Theater releases something worth talking about in a video I won’t be covering it.” You have no obligation to cover Dream theater the same way dream theater has no obligation in their writing. Take me as I am.

@alanalanis2257

2 жыл бұрын

Well said!

@dragosconstantinsoneriu7356

2 жыл бұрын

finally, a reasonable person.

@dragosconstantinsoneriu7356

2 жыл бұрын

@@rickhensley7498 sometimes i do agree with Mike but cmon, you cant complain that they sound A LITTLE SIMILAR to how they did before. I honestly love when i hear similarities because they're like some kind of easter eggs, uk? xD and even if not, THEY ARE OBJECTIVELY AMAZING. im not a gigantic DT fan but im slowly getting there. I've listened to Octavarium, A dramatic, The Ast., D/T, A View, Scenes and Images. tbh i dont dig Images that much but i definetely wont say its bad. its just not for me, i prefer the newer DT. and thats what people have to learn, to give simple opinions and to stop throwing so much shit at everyone.

@mutate34

2 жыл бұрын

​@@rickhensley7498 "I'm astounded by the narcissistic belief that this guy thinks he can tell me what I'm listening to is not that good" - it's just an opinion. Not narcissism. "thinks he can tell me what I'm listening to is not that good or not up to his standards" - he's not saying its not good, just predictable by DT standards. He's saying its not that great by THEIR standards, not his. "Never coming back to this reaction page" - sounds like you should stay away from ANY reaction page if you cry this much at other people's views. Calm down dude. BTK is saying The Alien sounds a little predictable compared to some of the newer prog metal out there. And it does.

@holtimt

2 жыл бұрын

@@mutate34 Who said they shouldn't be predictable ? That tends to happen when you have released 15 albums you know, you kind of did it all and can well sit on and perfect your long-developped signature composition.

If Dream Theater’s your favorite band, name your three favorite songs off Morningrise! That’s what I thought, poser

Man, as a listener of DT since 94....i'm just gonna say this....I hear ya !!

@kakalakiakka4545

2 жыл бұрын

For me DT stopped at Scenes from a memory

@albertplaysguitar

2 жыл бұрын

@@kakalakiakka4545 constant motion for me... I did enjoy octavarium and black clouds, tho. Once MP left... not the same.

Some valid points here....keeping the brand recognizable while innovating your sound is a challenge muhaha

@BecomeTheKnight

2 жыл бұрын

No doubt. Thanks for dropping by Mr. SHRED 🤘🔥

@conormurphy4328

2 жыл бұрын

I’m not gonna tell anyone that shred was here so I can keep him all to myself

@ShredmasterScott

2 жыл бұрын

@@conormurphy4328 muhahaha

I personally liked The Alien. But I just got really into Dream Theater a few months ago, so the familiar stuff in The Alien is still pretty new to me. Good job with calling me out 😂

@almightyhotdoglady5383

2 жыл бұрын

Long time listener here. Love it as much as Systematic Chaos and Dramatic Turn. Plus, the album doesn’t even come out until another THREE months from now, so I assume this is just a starter that establishes an entire theme we haven’t heard yet. It’s rather silly to go jabbing at a song that isn’t even nearly as long in duration as the rest of an unreleased album. I respect Mike, but he’s whatever. Don’t let his justifications ruin your experience with DT, or anyone’s opinion for that matter. That first year of finding a new prog band is always something that shouldn’t be tainted.

@kylekunce7867

2 жыл бұрын

@@almightyhotdoglady5383 I just understand where he comes from. I’ve gotten tired of bands that I have listened to for awhile when they start to get cliche with their new material, but I still think it’s good. I’m just a newer fan that thinks everything by Dream Theater sounds amazing right now

@almightyhotdoglady5383

2 жыл бұрын

@@kylekunce7867 Yee, I didn’t mean that Mike was silly for doing this as he makes his points and I can get down with it, I’m just personally keeping myself stripped from any thoughts or opinions on the song until I get the full package (I like it anyway). I have this mentality where if I think negatively of something unknown in the future, I may have a slight impact on that vision of an artist’s material. I dunno, weird habits 🤷‍♂️ People think similar things about KMFDM and I fuckin’ love their old and new material. Then sometimes their shit gets old, but that’s usually a sign for me to go listen to something else or I feel like I’ll taint their work lol

@Canalbiruta

2 жыл бұрын

Well, i got into dream theater for years now and i can say, i liked quite a bit Alien, but is like mike said, i listened thinking "oh and than comes that part where they do this" and it happens "and than they do that" and they do it as well... I love it though

Love DT. Love this song, now that I've listened to it a few times. One thing I will say, is that this is the best Mangini has sounded yet. I'm a fan of his and always felt that he was held back a bit, whether it was the mix or whatever. The thing is, just like any band, you inherently have a sound. I'm an Iron Maiden fan as well, and you know full well that they have a distinct sound, that as soon as you hear it, you know it's them. Although, the new song is a a bit different. Call it comfort food for the ear. Or, this could be an old pair of jeans that just fit right. The point is that after a while, we come to expect something from our favorite bands that, when they change it (i.e. The Astonishing), fans don't like it. Give the fans what they want, a DT song that sounds like a DT song. Mike, you're in a hard place. You're a huge fan, but also a musician that understands the what and hows of what they're doing. It's almost like you're too smart for your own good. You instinctively find yourself analyzing stuff rather than just listening to it for enjoyment. I feel for you and respect you for it. Love the channel. Rock On!! 🤘

@michaelflorczyk1394

2 жыл бұрын

Poor Mangini was getting screwed hard in the drum mixing for years now, especially in Astonishing and self-titled. But DOT and this new album's drum mix is going to be fat beefy and tasty. My personal preference on drum tone is Portnoy's more tight snare snappy sound that Carter Beauford from Dave Matthews uses. But Mangini makes that "metal" drum mix sound amazing on this track.

Thank you for this video Mike, I'm by no means a Dream Theatre fan but you made this very easy to see exactly what you're talking about even without me having much experience with their music. That's why I watch this channel, cheers man. \m/

You did a great job in this video articulating what I was feeling while listening to the new Dream Theater song, I’ve been an avid fan since SFAM and I loved some of the songs on Distance Over Time but The Alien did nothing for me. Really hoping the rest of the album is better. For some reason my feelings on The Alien sent me down a Porcupine Tree/ Steven Wilson rabbit hole, it’s still prog but not the same type. I described the Alien to my friends as “paint by numbers” Dream Theater

I wasn't super sold on it when i first heard it, came out the gates as a 6.5/10. Seemed too safe and too paint by numbers DT. But, and big but, the more i've listened to it the more I started to love it. Production is the best its ever been, drums are really interesting, bass sounds great, a repetitive but an interesting time signature 17/16 in most parts to keep things interesting and unexpected. lots of variation on the riffs and melodic ideas. Great solos on both guitar and keyboard and honestly apart from the first verse I really dug the vocals. now i would say The Alien is more like a 8.5/10 for me and has been the best "Single" from DT in a very long time. My favorite part of the songs is actually the brief part with the heavy choir and the palm muted guitars at 9:07, wish they let that part go on a little longer. But music is subjective! you have a lot of great points but DT sounding like DT has always both pissed off and pleased fans and today I am pleased.

@theozuretti6091

2 жыл бұрын

Is that a Widek Pfp ? 😍 Same here, listening multiple times and I kind of ”get it” now ! I like the intensity of the ending, and the solos (except the first one by JP)

@MaggaraMarine

2 жыл бұрын

_"My favorite part of the songs is actually the brief part with the heavy choir and the palm muted guitars at __9:07__, wish they let that part go on a little longer."_ Yes. I felt like that would have been a really epic outro. But they just play it once and end the song...

Sometimes just being a casual music listener is the best way to be. Just enjoy and don’t worry yourself over the why and how. Ignorance is bliss.

@nu-punkrants1551

2 жыл бұрын

No, ignorance is ignorance. The bliss is literal ignorance. Being ignorant is in no way a good way to be.

@jordanlutz8307

2 жыл бұрын

Okay, Nu-Punk Rants.

@nu-punkrants1551

2 жыл бұрын

@@jordanlutz8307 it just says alot saying being ignorant is good

@raiden3295

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not even a DT fan and this is utterly boring to me.

@themetalhead1463

2 жыл бұрын

Go back to a pop music channel and you’ll fit right in.

Great video! I would enjoy more in depth dissections like this in the future, this was a very entertaining watch.

Having heard the entire album I can assure you it is a monster especially the title track. Two razors edge level guitar solos.

Dream Theater is my favorite band of all times, it’s the only band that made me cry…and I totally agree with you regarding the new song when you say “we get it…you’re DT”.

@dominikweber4305

2 жыл бұрын

The only band that made you cry?? You have a serious problem mate

@michaelflorczyk1394

2 жыл бұрын

​@@dominikweber4305 I've never cried to music but I've gotten spooked. Opeth is the most terrifying and beautiful sound you'll ever come across.

@Moskal91

2 жыл бұрын

@@dominikweber4305 He doesent. It is the only band that ever got me close to crying. And that part was the Clean section right before The solo to a nightmare to remember. It hit even harder when U got rid of the vocals. Bcs the vocals made it clear that section wasn't meant to be that emotional.

Man that outro from Ministry of Lost Souls always gets me off guard. Seriously, that shit summons something seriously deep and meaningful and painful in me, but it hurts so much. (Maybe it's because the first time I heard it I was playing Final Fantasy 7 lol) it only happens with that song, it's unbelievable, definitely agree with you on this one, my favorite outro of all time too, (lol and I discovered it because of your "Dream Theater does pop better than popstars" video) it's just way too good.

Have come back to this now the album's out. The meat really is outside of the singles, more so than ever for a DT album.

While it's nothing groundbreaking, it's an amazingly solid (if typical) Dream Theater song. And for a first single I'm with it. Liked this way more than Untethered Angel for sure. But I will agree, it is indeed safe as far as a Dream Theater composition goes.

I just fell In love with DT only 2 years ago so I’m ALL IN!!!

I reached this point with Dream Theater over 10 years ago, by the time A Dramatic Turn of Events came out I felt like I'd heard everything before and so gave up on them, hadn't realised just how thoroughly they were recycling ideas from the early 90's though until your demonstration here.

@chrisl5973

2 жыл бұрын

I feel the same way, since adtoe. I remember hearing John's solo in on the backs of angels and I felt like I had heard that solo before. Although some parts of adtoe were also fresh and exciting to me, it really starts to sound the same since their self titled album.

@michaelflorczyk1394

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisl5973 That's why I really liked The Astonishing because it was a breath of fresh air, completely different mood change. With these upcoming longer pieces around the 20 min mark I have high hopes for this new record on theme changes

When Falling into Infinity was released, it was well, “different”. But it definitely grew on me. And compared to whatever they’re doing nowadays, it’s definitely more pleasing to my ears. As much as I love DT and JP, they’re in need of a good producer to stir things up a little bit. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@luckybroz

2 жыл бұрын

@@lubmir2k same here 🥲

The main Riff 17/16 rhythm is taken straight from Mangini's Drum Solo from the 2011/2012 tour, Luna Park DVD being the best example.

@aligatorsandwitch72

2 жыл бұрын

Mangini has been a 17/16-l0rd his entire career.

Something I’ve noticed about the singles Dream Theater releases leading up to the full album release - they always pale in comparison to they songs they DON’T release as singles. For example: when they released Untethered Angel, Paralyzed, and Fall Into The Light as singles from the Distance Over Time album, I gave them all multiple listens, and thought “Ok. Pretty cool.” Then the album got released, and I heard songs like Barstool Warrior, S2N, At Wits End, and Pale Blue Dot, and fell in love with them instantly. To this day, those are my 4 favorite tracks on that album. That exact thing has happened to me with the last several DT albums. So, with that said, i’m still hopeful that there will be some awesome stuff on the upcoming album. A lot of bands seem to do the opposite - they release the better tracks as singles, then you listen to the rest of the album and it ends up being a little underwhelming. That’s just MY own observation.

After creating as much music as DT have, it’s gonna be hard to still be “themselves” without sounding a bit repetitive at times. Guess they should pull a King Gizzard and go microtonal lol Regardless of the stagnation at times, I love these guys forever. Strong points. This is what we get for being DT fans for so long lol

@themesenbergmethod6816

2 жыл бұрын

Nice comment! I've been a Dream Theater fan since the "Pull Me Under" video. I didn't hear King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard until about a year ago. Their microtonal style and "Spinal Tap" imagery is quite diverse and original sounding. I've heard much from them now and can say that they still surprise me. I don't think Dream Theater needs to go microtonal, however. Although Dream Theater uses many scales and modes in their music, they still only use about 3% of the Total Scale and Mode Possibilities. All they need are some new scales and modes to add to their Understanding and Abilities. Search for the "Guitar Totality" book online for more information on ALL POSSIBLE SCALES AND MODES using the 12 notes of the chromatic scale... 🌎✌🌿🎶

@shredgordon3240

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah either bands change their sound and piss of fans (opeth, leprous) or just continue doing the same thing and also piss off fans.

Hey, the video finally returned! Fitting, how they've won a Grammy for the track not too long ago. Adequate critique. I appreciate the in-depth comparisson with the other tracks in their catalogue most of all. Illustrates how the newer stuff tends to feel "samey" more often than not.

I've never heard anything frome dream theater before, where should I start??

personally i love at wits end and pale blue dot alot. so original and breaking all illusions and bridges in the sky and lost not forgotten. definitely some of my favs by dt from the mike mangine era

@michaelflorczyk1394

2 жыл бұрын

I'm personally in love with the Mangini era. Bridges in the sky, pale blue dot, are sooooo amazing! My only wish as a DT fanatic is if they tried songs like Best Of Times vibes again. That's what got me hooked on DT in the first place, but bands need to change no matter what and I'm fine with that.

Dude, everything you are saying I have felt since the release of Train of Thought! Give me something new, refreshing, different!

I love "prog" and i have tried listening to dream theater, but not a fan. I want something instrumental side, what do y'all suggest?

@thedisabledviking

2 жыл бұрын

animals as Leaders

What's the slowed down song at the beginning?

it’s not an awful song. it just feels like they’re playing it too safe

@theirishpotato6588

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@nickman287

2 жыл бұрын

Ina vaccuum without any other dream theater existing, it's a decent song. The song feels like a mix of 4 of their older song with barely anything special :(

@georgeantonioandrei8570

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, true, they found a recipe and they apply it every time. This is not bad for them, but for us as listeners, it's becoming boring.

@Moskal91

2 жыл бұрын

Every single they release before the album is safe

@ferryfabi

2 жыл бұрын

agree, almost sleep when i hear this

They're making exactly the music they want to make. Remember, they earn their living from this, have a fan (customer) base they want to satisfy, and have families to support. They've already made more classic albums than 99.9% of bands, and their legacy is set. They have nothing left to prove to anyone. They could fart on a CD and sell it, and they've already accomplished their mission.

@jb_50w78

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Exactly! At this point they are just making the music they like to make. They could probably just retire if they wanted to. Just be happy they still make music.

@dlc435

2 жыл бұрын

@@jb_50w78 I think they've always made the music they've wanted to make - but they're older and a bit more comfortable. Point being, they've always done their shit on their terms

@jb_50w78

2 жыл бұрын

@@dlc435 not always. In the 90s when they recorded Falling into Infinity they were stuck having to make more accessible music according to the demands of the record label they were with at the time and they almost disbanded and gave up. But for a while now they have never had that problem and could always just make whatever kind of music they wanted.

@dlc435

2 жыл бұрын

@@jb_50w78 That's the one exception. Have you read their biography Lifting Shadows? The rest of the band actually didn't mind, except for Portnoy. Luckily Portnoy did care, otherwise that album would've imploded the band That being said, I still think FII is a great record.

@jb_50w78

2 жыл бұрын

@@dlc435 yeah even if it’s the least liked album it is still good and better than what most other bands do

good video! I have the similar feeling with you. In China we have an old word which means how much you love it before, how much you hate it at the certain point. if DT release new songs, I will listen to it, I will always wait for new surprise, just like you

@BecomeTheKnight

2 жыл бұрын

One of the reasons I've been fascinated with East Asian language.

Exactly how I think. I've been listening DT since 93. Agreed with all the points. Hope the new album does not disappoint since I will attend my first DT show soon.

That is quite the character arc. Going from being a DT fanboy to becoming a DT hater!!! 😱

@the_seer_0421

2 жыл бұрын

"Hater" is bit much tho

@joeturton6627

2 жыл бұрын

You don't have to like every song by a band for you to love the band. Not liking one song by a band doesn't make you a hater.

@EzioMonty117

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeturton6627 If the three exclamation marks and emoji didn't give it away, I am fucking around

@erikrevier4053

2 жыл бұрын

No arc at all really, all DT fanboys are also DT haters, it's kinda a package deal.

@joeturton6627

2 жыл бұрын

@@EzioMonty117 Fair enough. Its hard to tell if people are being sarcastic or serious anymore.

TBH I have to agree, the past few albums don't have the magic sauce as they used to. But this happens to every band if you think about it. Except Leprous, god damn they kick ass every new release.

@conormurphy4328

2 жыл бұрын

And McBusted obviously

@may14ification

2 жыл бұрын

I’m exciting for the new Leprous.

@hannibal9503

2 жыл бұрын

For me it has been Haken, Every Haken track just makes me excited,

@isaiahmumaw

2 жыл бұрын

Haken and Leprous both, in my opinion. Now, that said, they are many releases behind DT, and as they age will likely begin to fall into the same problem.

@Sognafar

2 жыл бұрын

Leprous hasn't been around since the early 90s. Give them a decade. That being said Mastodon still making damn good music

Came to see if anyone was going to mention the guitar section at 9:56 of The Best of Times. Gave up and decided to mention it myself

Your point on melodic themes really hit home for me because I feel like it's been forced when they do it for over a decade now. It always feels like a dollar store version of the masterful themes in Octavarium (song and album) and Metropolis+Scenes. Those ones were just so catchy and memorable and i have to listen to their new music like 10 times to get the same effect the old songs did the first time. The one thing I give credit to The Alien though is having a really banger pre-chorus and chorus. The rest of the song i have the same issues as you but it's chorus does get stuck in my head all the time which i can't say for a lot of their newer work.

IMHO the writing and creativity of Mike Portnoy has been sorely missing since he left. Mike was not only a drummer, he was a great writer.

@iamgreen2964

9 ай бұрын

Thank you very much! You speak from my heart, but you could say what I tried, but in much fewer words than I used and therefore, a big thank you! I think Mangini does a pretty and solid work, but he doesn't write songs.

The way that I see it if you want to be a true fan of anything. you have to show honesty. And criticism as a whole. Good job mike! 💙

Nice to see this video back up again!

Hey man, what do you think about their new album as a whole?

I agree with a lot of the points you make, but at this point, I don’t really care what they do as long as they enjoy doing it. Most of their new stuff hadn’t had as much magic and sheer emotion as their old stuff, but I still find it enjoyable to listen to. I highly doubt this is going to be the best song on the album. Even with their more repetitive routine now, their epics have stayed consistently incredible. I personally really liked the self titled album but it wouldn’t have been anywhere near as good without Illumination Theory. I have faith that the title track of this album is going to be great. The singles aren’t usually the best song of their albums anyway, I don’t think the first song on ANY of their albums is my favorite from it. I love Dream Theater, and I love everyone in it and what they do, but they have gotten rather repetitive. Mainly, though, I’ll keep supporting them and buying the albums and stuff as long as I can still enjoy it, and if they enjoy making it, which it seems they do. They could’ve retired a long time ago and lived comfortably with what they got, most bands would have already. I’m just glad they still enjoy making the music, and I’m still enjoying listening to it, even if it is a little repetitive and unoriginal at times. That being said, I found Mangini incredible on this track, I think they may have finally found a way to properly show how great he is on these albums. Also, they finally mixed JM correctly after like what, almost 35 years now?

In DT's defence, when you have been a band for that long, it's hard to out new and unique music. They have produced so many albums over the three decades Let's not forget their last album came out two years ago! That's not a long time. Maybe taking more time would have helped? Either way, they either need to do something very drastic like an Opeth to really change things up but then you risk alienating your fans.

@malawigw

2 жыл бұрын

Why then make a new album if you do not have any more ideas to present?

@yasserjamilq8

2 жыл бұрын

@@malawigw yeah fair point. Some bands retire, like The Dillinger escape plan but most like to stay in their comfort zone.

@malawigw

2 жыл бұрын

@@yasserjamilq8 me as a fan, would rather have them not release new material at all then.

I am so glad that you shared this specific take on this. I was almost pulling my hair out (metaphorically) the first time I listened because I was just like "But that's just the riff/melody from-" over and over. I still like it a ton after repeat listens but I am slightly worried too. I fucking love Dream Theater and have hope that the new album is a banger. But I adore the Astonishing so what do I know :^)

What do you think about the concept album VERA CRUZ by EDU FALASCHI?

Sadly I agree with you and I have gone through this same experience with my other favorite bands like Rush. I don’t fault the bands, I know they’re giving it their absolute best effort but there is only so much amazement in the tank. I will say that I will take the same old Dream Theater or same old Rush etc. over the oceans of bullshit that passes of music out there!!! Lastly and most importantly, I love the actual band members (as I know them) as good, kind, family oriented people that I respect and root for to always succeed and carry on!

@BecomeTheKnight

2 жыл бұрын

From everything I've seen and heard, yes they are awesome people. That's one of the reasons I admire them so much.

I want to take the steak metaphor a step further... We get accustomed to that rich, well crafted fillet from our favorite restaurant. What do we do when we still want a fillet but are tired for the same one? Go somewhere else( find a different band) BUT for dream theater, their albums spanning from metropolis to even black clouds gave what i think to be the feel and experience of getting that dt fillet of each album as if it were from a completely different restaurant while still being at the same place. Like each of those albums in that span was a like how different cultures approach making a fillet at different restaurants. You didnt have to go anywhere else to have that dr prog experience. The problem now is that i feel like we are getting the same style of fillet just reinvented or arranged differently from the past 3 or 4 fillets. I still have mad respect and always like what they do. Just what has been on my chest for a while now too

Thank you! I just couldn't find how to express what I felt with this song, at most I could say that it was way too similar to In the Presence of Enemies, but you actually kind of translated all my feelings into words for this song (and for current Dream Theater in general). And to add to the MM argument, not only is the mixing what makes him sound robotic, but also the fact that DT now uses a metronome live (or at least I'm pretty sure they do), which wasn't the case with MP. And it's not like that's a bad thing or anything, just something to keep in mind when wondering why they sound different.

THANK YOU! I just finally got around to listening to The Alien, and I legit thought that I clicked the wrong track. And got an old song with a cool new music video attached. It's a great song, but sounds more like a remaster of old stuff than anything else.

I still love it. But I would love if dream theatre picked up some different instruments. They already have a very classical take on the genre why not go full fusion.

After X number of albums we all need to realize - they have a fundamental style, and natural tendencies. So .... ya -> It's Dream Theatre. Which for me is -> "Exquisite execution, as always"

Hopefully the album delivers. It's not that I like every track of their last album (D/T) but at least it has bangers like Barstool Warrior, S2N, Wit's End, Pale Blue Dot, Viper King heck I even like Out of Reach.

Good video - I think there are better and more surprising songs on the album, though. How do you like Awaken the Master and Transcending Time, for example?

100% facts. The most honest video about DT I have seen in a while.

Can't believe you didn't mention that the riff sounds almost exactly like "Sacrificed Sons" at the 4:40 mark.

Agreed. Very accurate and honest points. Thank you for bringing them up for us. I hope dream theater watches this video, so they are aware of how some of us may feel.

The melody you were talking about at 18:00 reminds me of the verse in The Gøass Prison at around 4min.

Dream Theater has done so much for music. I appreciate they have stayed loyal to their roots and principles. Is hard for a prog band to remain relevant and fresh at the same time. I was not excited by this new song, but I don’t mind they keep doing what they do.

*_"So I'm gonna talk about why I don't wanna talk about it."_* I like that. I'm not sure it it's 'meta', or simply confusing, but it's is very *_human_*. Respect. I watched the "Alien" video on KZread just the other day, and I have to say my reaction was not unlike yours. I thought 'meh'. It's okay I guess. I saw these guys live back in 2001 at the Florida Theatre in Jacksonville. They were 2nd on a 3 bill act: King's X, Dream Theater, and Joe Satriani. It was my first date with my now wife, and it was awesome. But unlike Tool, as these guys have gotten more sophisticated, they've actually gotten less interesting in some ways. The musicianship is incredible as always. But the music is just something I can no longer really relate to. They're leaving the stratosphere, and leaving me behind. Oh well. Guess they're the alien. tavi.

Love your statement from 26.00 to 26.20 I feel exactly the same way about Opeth. I am not super crazy about the albums from Pale Communion onwards (though there are still some AMAZING tracks on each one of them), but I am so freaking grateful for the incredible music that they have gifted us with, especially the trio of Ghost Reveries, Watershed and Heritage, that I will respect and support them for the rest of my life. I wish them maximum fulfillment and at the same time I trust that at some point they will again produce something that rocks me off my knockers, even if it's just a song here and there.

All of these will only make sense to all the old fans. But DT are doing their things not only to feed and please the old ones. New fans (listeners) are also coming by listening to their new albums and songs. Senior fans may call these boring things, but the new listeners may find all of these are inspiring and lead them to look and grab for the older and older albums. Some people called them finished musician, at the retirement age, you name it. But in the end, it's not only about pattern or nostalgic rhythm. They have their own identity as a band, which will always be carried to all their fans, old and new one, and eventually the identity itself that brought them to the award. Appreciate for what have you done in this video. Great Stuff! Cheers!

It seems like John Petrucci can be creative but no longer under the brand name Dream Theater. What I mean is his solo album is great as is the latest Lte album. It feels like each song or piece (cause they're instrumental), has a story and character of its own. But the last DT album and this song just bleed into one with nothing separating them.

@forentertainment3259

2 жыл бұрын

Really? I felt like LTE3 had the exact same shortcomings as this song, other than the Rhapsody In Blue cover.

@dlc435

2 жыл бұрын

This is what's great about Periphery. Because Periphery has succesfully separated the band from their $$$, they're free to make whatever music they want. Remember, Dream Theater is John Petrucci's bread and butter. His day job

@nikelodeon6852

2 жыл бұрын

@@forentertainment3259 Nah I liked it. Also if u hear the deluxe edition they have some great improv jams that sound awesome and different than the composed pieces on the album. In fact from the previous albums there are only a few select tracks that I keep coming back to.

@forentertainment3259

2 жыл бұрын

@@nikelodeon6852 Don't get me wrong, I like LTE3 just as I like this song. And I've listened to the whole thing, but the jams, while fun, I'm not gonna go back to. The main songs have a lot more of the Dream Theater-isms than the first two LTE records, and something like Hypersonic to me falls into the category of "these bits worked before, let's toss them into this song".

100% Agree with you. I am an old Dream Theater fan (Since 1993) and remember how it felt when "A Change of Seasons" came out. Having been used to their first 3 albums at the time, I can still remember the feeling of excitement of hearing new melodic phrases and cadences. I remember also getting excited with their side projects as well because they all sound different from DT too like Chromakey, LTE, etc. I should say that after "Octovarium", I do not feel the same excitement and anticipation anymore. I still listen but especially the last 3~4 albums, I have not listened to it fully because like you, the thrill is sort of gone.

Yeah I went to one of there shows when they debuted the “Distance over time” album. But also played metropolis part 2 and I was kinda board the first half of the show. And then they played metropolis and it just got my attention so much more. To me the old stuff isn’t just repeated but it’s just better.

@addictofoxygen

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

Good video Mike. Honestly the only reason why I want to hear this new DT album is because I'm curious about what will JP do with an 8 string guitar. Thats it. We didn't even need a new album but here we are. It feels like they just recorded it to have something to sell

Probably just me, but I really loved the Mirror Album, Lie is my all time favorite song. And sounds super heavy and different from modern DT

@jamescross9692

2 жыл бұрын

The album is Awake 👍👍 scarred is my favorite song from it

@joshuasmith4643

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamescross9692 yeah I realized that after listening to the song after I made the comment and forgot to edit lol.

If you think Dream Theater's a great band, wait 'till you hear the Doors!

I was here an month ago BUT... I'd love to know your take on Invisible Monster.

That first half time section gave me the same thoughts of what you're talking about. I've heard a similar part on Six Degrees if I'm not mistaken. That second time it appears, I love Mangini's approach. Overall I really enjoyed it though.

I decided to give this video a watch to see if I could better understand why people dislike this single. And... well, I sort of got my answer? Here's the thing - I do see your points, and I think that they're valid. But... at the same time, I absolutely can't agree with them lol. Almost every side-by-side comparison you made with songs from their previous albums didn't feel like they were THAT similar to me. Even if, in terms of music theory, they might have aspects that connect them, I really feel like The Alien didn't really share that many similarities with the other parts you mentioned. And this is as someone who has listened to all of Dream Theater's albums over the course of a couple of years. I have... a worrying amount of their music committed to memory, and honestly I find I'm able to appreciate the differences even when similar parts come up. That's not to say I'm somehow better at enjoying them, just that personally I don't really focus on similarities, and think more about differences. Since none of the riffs are necessarily IDENTICAL, I find I pick out the differences in them. I do agree with the end of this video though, and fully feel your pain on the assessment that you feel pressure to talk about Dream Theater when they release new stuff. And to that, I say... honestly, maybe don't make a video about the new album? Just listen to it when it comes out, let it digest, and don't rush to make a review or something. Maybe down the line mention if you like/dislike the album, but don't do much beyond that. It sounds to me as though you feel burnt out from the band, because currently you just passively enjoy their material without being super enamoured with it, but people EXPECT you to have a lot to say when really you don't. I personally still classify Dream Theater as progressive metal, but then again my definition is slightly different. I feel like your definition is more accurate to the term "progressive", but it feels off when applied to music. Like, for something to be genuinely progressive, I feel like it'd have to reach a lot of people to actually progress the art form. And, as big as prog metal bands like Dream Theater are, they don't have a whole lot of reach in the grand scheme of music, making it difficult for them to be progressive in a literal sense. I personally define prog more as pushing boundaries for their own self-contained sound, and I do think Dream Theater still experiment within their own sound. Sure, one of the early riffs in The Alien is reminiscent of a riff in Sacrificed Sons, but I feel like the tempo and the chords set behind the riffs help give it a different vibe. Jordan Rudess does an excellent solo, which he does pretty often, but he did use an odd and new effect for a short time in the solo, which gives it a bit of extra flavour. It's not as much variation as before, but I feel like Dream Theater still try to figure out new ways to freshen up their sound. That's just my thoughts though.

@erikrevier4053

2 жыл бұрын

Well said my dude.

@Lordcamilli

2 жыл бұрын

Spot on. And what about those creepier modal interchanges? They're digging into their King Crimson/ELP side of chords. They're telling a story, and they've made a style for themselves while still delivering satisfying songs to headbang in 7/8.

@God4445

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't read it but man what a post!

@MAGAMAN

2 жыл бұрын

It's literally nothing new. It's like yngwie. It all the same thing over and over again. I heard it all already, so why pay they to be lazy in their writing.

Systematic Chaos was the last album i was truly excited over…. That said, Live? Live is a different matter… these guys kill it live

The most memorable solo that sounds inspired by this is in The Best of Times. One of my favorites. I’m a sucker for melodic “cheese” chord progressions/solos, it’s the main thing I love about JP. Whenever he taps into his inner “Gilmour”, I’m in. Also the Breaking All Illusions solo means a lot to me because I listened to it shortly before my first daughter was born. I still can clearly remember sitting in my car in the dark, in the dead of winter, awaiting my first child and that solo bringing me to tears of anticipation.

I’m pretty sure that you said exactly what most on here are thinking! Kudos to you for putting this out there 🤙🏽🙌🏽

I think this latest song solidifies even more why Portnoy “fan boys” feel the way they do: no matter how impressive Mangini is, Portnoy’s era is more original. It reminds me of the post-Waters Pink Floyd and post-Blackmore Deep Purple: very good but something is missing; kind of a paint-by-numbers feel.

@jetydosa1

2 жыл бұрын

Those are such great examples. Post Waters Floyd went for more of an ambient, guitar based thing, and post Blackmore Purple went for more of a mature musicianship thing. They weren't trying to create the past.

it's not "Alien takes forever.", it's "Alien, changed forever." which makes a lot of sense and is a great lyric for this song. I get most of the complaints but, come on, man, the lyrics are good on this one. The song structure, I kind of saw it as a nod to their previous catalogue while still having some new elements. I still like their sound but totally understand your viewpoint and actually had very similar problems the first time I heard it but then it grew on me. I think (and hope) we'll see more "new elements" from them in the next single that they wanted to introduce after the first, pretty accesible and "comfort zone", single. Let's hope this album pleases both of us and many other DT fans, man. Btw, really appreciate the authenticity I get from your videos. Rock on!

The beauty of music is finding something you like. I just found a song i hadn’t heard before, Coheed Welcome Home, love the song, but haven't listened to anything of theres. I like a few DT songs. This song i feel grows on you.

Right there with you sir. I think that's why Images and Words is still one of my top DT albums cause it's where I was totally blown away and immersed into prog.