Why I Chose Zeiss Batis 25mm f2 Over Sony 24mm f1.4 GM in 2021
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Is the Zeiss Batis 25mm f2 worth getting over the Sony 24mm f1.4 GM lens in 2021? Here are the pros and cons to getting the Zeiss lens, it's actually better in some areas.
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@hungryromanians
2 жыл бұрын
Oh no, I was just about to ask you to take the Zeiss 18 2.8 for a vlog test as I have just found out about its existence. So I have the 16/35 GM with A7S 3 that sits on RCS 2 ; I was wondering if I could save some weight with the Zeiss offering while maintaining same image Quality. The thing is that we will be most part of the time both of us in frame: how would it handle the autofocus? So please, from one scrub to another, give it a go if you got the chance; there’s no pressure, we still got like 2 months before we leave 😹 do that and will give you a shoutout from the darkest streets of Bangkok as a thank you 🙏 😹
@Sirfunkymonkey
2 жыл бұрын
You are right man, all G masters breath like an over weight hippo. That being said I love them. The 25mm is pretty boss regardless
@StreetsOfVancouverChannel
2 жыл бұрын
That Zeiss image quality is outstanding.
@jonasgrings5615
Ай бұрын
Come on, get a Loxia. That's the type of stuff you love ;)
"Goodbye tonneh women...what trouble will you get in to tonight...wow....where have they gone." LOL! Killed me.
I had the Batis 25 for years but sold it to be practical when I bought the 16-35 GM. Although the 16-35 is awesome, I bought the Batis again as it’s light weight and warm color character make it my favorite lens for hiking trips.
Great vid! The Zeiss 25mm is a gorgeous lens - one of my absolute favorites. It’s so good it makes me want to shoot wider than I otherwise probably would.
Hi Kasey, colors from this lens are beautiful, and also flare. You did a great purchase. Cheers!
From my own experience with Zeiss lens is that the Zeiss 3D Pop that everyone talk about is cause by the intense colors tones and unique bokeh.... You did a great choice going with the Zeiss it is lighter and cheaper and having f2 is plenty enough for what you doing. Plus the lens is sharp even if it is not a G Master.
@bijosn
Ай бұрын
there are many theories, some say its the field of curvature, some say its the CA, some say its the fast fall and some say its the gradual falloff from focus to out of focus
@mproductionsmusik
28 күн бұрын
@@bijosn Im not 100% sure sure what make Zeiss lens pop beside the colors and beautiful unique bokeh but itnis my cup of tea i own a few Zeiss and i will always keep them even if GM lens are a little sharper.
I thought I was the only one who noticed the "3d pop" of the Sony Zeiss lenses until I watched this video. I have the very humble 35mm toneh 2.8 Sony Zeiss and it is incredible. I used to think it would be the lens I used the least, as I have other fast primes. Then I started taking it out a bit more, and oh wow. There is just something special about its look. It has this "vibe" to it. I never thought I'd be the sort of person to say this sort of thing. It is almost a vintage style 3 dimensional pop, that is just pleasing to the eye, yet it's still incredibly detailed. I've taken lame photos of the side of buildings, not thinking much about the photo, only to get home and find it was one of best photos I've ever taken, just from the emotion given off by the contrast of different textures and shadows in the photograph. I think in nearly all cases they should be up for consideration over the G-master equivalents.
@sethie_shots
2 жыл бұрын
That certainly is all the words…to get me to shell out for the _”mistake”_ Zeiss 😂
@y34r
2 жыл бұрын
Same experience, I own bunches of canon ef glass and only 1 zeiss.turned out when I shot with zeiss lenses, the color and the contrast and detail in texture and shadow beat ef glass every time.
@trym2121
2 жыл бұрын
Just slide the clarity in lightroom and you'll get that 3d pop
@gkoricic
2 жыл бұрын
Then RX1's Sonnar will blow your mind as it is all that you wrote times 4 (at least). I have a 50 F1.4 ZA and it's crazy good, but Sonnar is better and it's only F2.
@lucasliaskos
2 жыл бұрын
I also have the 35mm F2.8 Zeiss and I just love the images it produces. Agree with every word.
6:30 "You don't want to be like everyone else." So true, we should instead be like everyone else six years ago lol
“It’s a one-way street…” 😂 stay gold, Pannyboy.
Such beautiful shots and hilarious jokes. Love you, Kasey.
I love both lenses and have used both extensively... The Batis 25 truly does have that 'Zeiss rendering' that everyone talks about, but it's REALLY great for video, just fantastic. The Sony 24 GM has UNREAL sharpness and lack of distortion, and is great for cityscapes, architecture...
"Every scrub in the city of Nevada." as a scrub in the city of Las Vegas, that statement resulted in an immediate like for this video.
@markyocum8249
2 жыл бұрын
Scrub in the city of Reno concurs LOL
@tabiasobi
2 жыл бұрын
@@markyocum8249 So close to hell that you can see Sparks!
@markyocum8249
2 жыл бұрын
@@tabiasobi Especially the last few days, unfortunately.
@tabiasobi
2 жыл бұрын
@@markyocum8249 Caldor Fire is just heartbreaking.
Brilliant, love your videos.
“Dont… cancel your show.”. Im still laughing out loud!
This is the best you’ve ever looked. The lighting, the colors, the skin tones are all on point. 10:52 Golden Hour… glorious!
@georgedavall9449
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed! Love this guy! And I don’t exactly know why?
Brilliant video ! Subscribed …
I so enjoyed this video!
So this is why Zeiss increased their lens prices.... I don't think it's a coincidence that you and Christopher Frost both are reviewing the same lens simultaneously.
I like these golden hour vlogs! Also i mean the things you complained about, they aren't that bad. The sun stars are neat looking, could be cool. CA is only seen if you are really particular, it kinda has a vintage lens look, but with auto focus. I like it!
@djencode
2 жыл бұрын
And because you have the 20 1.8 you have the choice of more artistic or more clinical depending on what kind of shot you're trying to do
"3.5 might be a sweet spot" thats what sigma did with their 24mm dg dn... a lens no one appreciates so they now had to make a F2 version of it :D
I need full frame for toney, panasonic 1.7 is not enough. Buys a full frame , stops down to 3.5 (same toney as panasonic 1.7)😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@CanuckQuest
2 жыл бұрын
Love Ka$ey, but he has $old out 🤣😂. In his heart of hearts, he loves Panasonic. We know Kasey!
OMG that 24mm f1.4 in the clip you showed was amazing. You were in focus and the background was all glorious bokeh. I had to go and buy an over priced popcorn and cola it was so cinematic.
@weizenobstmusli8232
2 жыл бұрын
The look reminds of the moment when slenderman catches and eats you.
YO audio in the studio is amazing btw
been using the batis 2/25 for about 2 years now its an awesome lens, i just program a button to switch to manual problem sorted.
Subbing to this channel was a great decision, I can’t stop laughing 😂🤣 “There’s a squirrel , we’re in APSC mode. I wasted two almond…. I’m going to eat them.”🤣😂
I love the zeiss batis line of lenses, through time, I got most of them. This 25 was the last one and it only come a month ago. It color rendition, how it draw is fantastic, you can not see that when you shot against a PDF tableau🙄. I also have the sony 20 and I like this batis better.
Halfway thru and you were cracking me up with your sarcasm and nonsense 😂🤣😂. Great job.
Hi Kasey, Request for camera advice. QnA session Which camera should I buy? Purpose :Daneil Schiffer style product marketing videos .Some photography . Fujifilm or Sony or Cannon cripple camera . Budget 1000 usd camera + kit lens. Thanks . Regards Dude
I've seen this review way too many times. I've been debating between the Sony 20mm F1.8 G and this Batis 25mm F2. This one has sharp corners even at F2 (they get better at F2.8 and are excellent at F4), that Zeiss look and like mentioned less focus breathing in video. If you buy it used for a good price it's worth every dollar/euro/pound.
Uncle Rico knows his lens. I prefer the zeiss too. Color seems to be more vivid in some youtube a/b comparisons I've seen. I might pull the trigger soon.
I immediately want one after watching this: you don’t look jaundiced for the first time.
Love the batis series in general!
i bought a sony 20 1.8g. sharp yes. magical? sold it and now using an adapted canon ef 2.0 is. considering the zeiss.
I like your narrative. Kind of entertaining. I love Zeiss lenes for Nikon. Pfff... I enjoy working with them. This is what is important to me, even without AF.... and missing here and there an opportunity...
Casey may ridicule and yell at me for asking this, but is there anything wrong with just going with the Tamron 17-28 for the Sony A7SIII and being done with it? Isn't it good enough for like 95% of situations?
@cameraconspiracies
2 жыл бұрын
Bad stabe, heavy.
i can't see pores, what am i doing here?
It looks great, that green around the light is not noticable. You zoomed in and I had to search. It does have that 3d pop. The backgrounds are blurry in a nice way. Colors are kinda brownish tan to me. Like much better than the orange canon colors. Zeiss just seem classy somehow, not cartoonish. Maybe from look of old films or something.
thanks for the great show! and the colours are fucking amazing! i have the Batis 40 and the 24 GM. The Batis colours are so superior!
@Chris-ey7zy
2 жыл бұрын
You can’t go wrong with Batis
This guy has a special kind of swagger haha
You need to try out some of those big Fujinon cinema lenses like Philip Bloom has.
Had the 16-35 and 100-400 GM lenses for years and have never been happy with the colours. I thought it was the A7RIV that just had crappy colours. There was just something missing and I ended up having to work really hard in Capture One to get something OK-ish. Recently bought the Batis 25, 40 and 135 lenses and I’m stunned at the quality of images the Sony is now producing - they are now rivalling my Phase One back. Zeiss pop is REAL. Colours and warmth are stunning. I’ll never use Sony lenses again.
Whats the deal with 24mm lenses, as Panasonic is also releasing one now. I have the 20-60 already, will get the Sigma 105mm Macro Art instead for Macro/Portrait ... stuff
In a nutshell, an Olympus EM1 with a 12 mm f1.8 (24 mm f 3.6 equiv) does the same job?
@ChestonUy
2 жыл бұрын
Yes it should be
Love the content homie. I have a question about dynamic range. I want to be famous v-blogger like you. But I want people to be able to see me v-blogging outside, and also the blue sky, from a proper camera. Is this even possible? .Why does smart phone and even GoPro or osmo action show blue skies and properly exposed face with no effort, but my canon and Panasonic mirrorless just can’t do it. Even in log, to keep the sky blue, my face is underexposed and that’s no good because I am the star, and want to be famous v-blogger. I can’t be the only one who can’t figure out this problem. Is there any proper camera that can do this? Do I need a canon C9000 or A7Siiii? You are the camera scientist Please explain and help us.
Hey good lookin' your shot actually looks really nice the moment you take it outside. Idk what you're saying that sounds like tunnuck... Tony? but nice colors and bokeh. Just leave it. Leave that bokeh alone. O well, have a good weekend catching lots of sun stars.
I was also this moron. I got tired of waiting for the Gmaster to be in stock so I went with the Zeiss. Almost immediately became my favorite lens, and now rarely leaves my camera.
I find with the 20mm and active stabe on its perfect (22mm) but standard stabe yeah I can see what you mean about wideness.
This lens produces a gorgeous image, its got character.
Zeiss lenses are made by people who know how to to make a good lens and have done so for well over 60-70 years or more.
@user-fd8eh4vu1w
2 жыл бұрын
I had the zeiss 55mm. One of the best lenses. Zeiss lenses produce a 3D pop in the pictures that I can't quite explain.
this video looks fantastic - the color grade, the lighting, and the cam/lens performance... very fine choice, i'd have to say.
Hey, today, your color science is much better on your nose in this episode! ...Is that the new lens? As for the focus breathing - have you not paid attention? Its time to find a phone booth. Fast.
as of 2024 is it worth $340usd? i just scored a used one with the box for $340
Love this channel....I listen to this ot at night while in bed....it puts me right out
The test charts I looked at showed the chromatic aberration almost disappearing after f4- 5.6, losing toneh but not a deal killer for me- anyone with this lens agree? I am looking at it.
Was the "Zeiss Pop" the way the lights were popping when you moved your hands in the studio? Seems like Everytime you moved your hands from the first segment in the studio, cause an auto-exposure change. Made it very distracting and hard to watch.
Zeiss is looking good. Nice toneh, nice pop, nice color rendition. Nice lens. As for the amount of toneh f/2-4 is fine for the vlog, still plenty of pop. Maybe best you ever looked with a Soneh! It is about character and usability.
i have this zeiss, i love it, i use on my old sony a7 mk1 , and af its still fast :)
Have you used the Batis 18mm? I’m considering that lens for my channel.
@Ava-ph9vv
Жыл бұрын
I have the Batis 25 and 40. I heard the 18mm is not as good. Look at the Dustin Abbot reviews for the lens.
@brugj03
2 ай бұрын
@@Ava-ph9vv The 18mm is crazy. I call it the mini Otus. To me it`s the best batis. It`s got the magic, it`s crazy sharp and only 18mm. Just try.
Did anybody check Zeiss batis line and the stabilization with Sony camera eg zve1? I think about the 18mm to vlog compared with the 20mmf1.8g Sony
I used Batis serie since the begining and i'm very happy with in video or still. the first was 25mm next 85mm and for less portrait deformation and macro 40mm. the 135mm should be interesting not 18mm i prefer laowa 12mm. i custom button on camera to select MF or AF. Those series are light and well made. ZEISS!
You are a funny man being from Canada Ha,Ha,Ha.I have a Canon M50 And i'm a wannabe photo shooter, but you make my day keep on pissing the wannabes of i love it. Ps.and i have Gopro 5 and 9 but still love you .Big love from sweden
We won't be seeing you at the Oscars this year for "High Noon Raccoon Eyes" your nomination has been rescinded.
A guy filming on the A7SIII says “be different.” Right.
Interestingly I have the same experience. I have been using the Zeiss Batis 25mm for a few years, then sold it to buy the GM 24mm, after a few months, I sold the GM and bought the Zeiss back to keep for good. Reasons: 1) Batis 25mm is wider than GM 24mm & the images look more than a 24mm range image (critical to me), GM 24mm is just "not so wide" though its 24mm, not sure why. 2) I consistently find the Zeiss produces 3D pop image, love its rendering and contrast, GM24 does a good job but to me, not as good. 3) Yes, Zeiss is lighter and with all the benefits cheaper... GM are good (I own many other GMs, but Zeiss 25mm is a keeper for me). Cheers.
@KenichiKasamatsu92
Жыл бұрын
Did you say the Batis 25 is wider than the Sony 24?
@yourtravelchannel
Жыл бұрын
@@KenichiKasamatsu92 Yes. Somehow when comparing image to Image, the photo taken by batis is wider than GM, though it’s 25 vs 24mm. Not sure why but there are reviews with same conclusions.
@KenichiKasamatsu92
Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I would assume if this is because the tests were done with the camera being stationary and since the batis is a shorter lens, the results seem that way. But if not then interesting. Thanks for your reply!
@yourtravelchannel
Жыл бұрын
@@KenichiKasamatsu92 welcome, I did take the same image from same point and compare the two. Baits is wider for sure though it’s 25mm.
Regret are for the birds, Mr. Conspiracy. You said so yourself, content and audio are kings. Keep up the great work.
I love the look of all Batis lenses, not as fast, but way lighter and better than I am anyway. It's the best look, you've had you need the 85 for your wedding business., best lens still made.
No point in a 24mm when Batis has the 18mm too! I agree with you about Sony's camera lenses. I've sold the lot and spent a bit extra for the Batis prime series instead.
Got me at “Golden hour “ 😂
What's that wind noise in the background? Almost gives the impression you're telling a ghost story with howling winds as ambiance.
Love the Sony 24mm G-master,one of my favorite lenses.I don’t know anything,but like it.
Wait, but what about the Samyang 24mm 1.8?
Oh man 😂 You got a like and a sub!
I'll weigh in with another reason, and as you put it 'it's not a good reason but it's important'. The Zeiss Batis lenses just LOOK so much nicer than the Sony Native Lenses do. Some people don't care about design or aesthetics and that's fine, but a lot of clients will notice who has the 'prettier' gear. Not to mention that when you're using something, you want to like how it looks. The Sony Lenses with their slightly off black/grey and Orange logos and rugged look, it's fine, but that smooth black metal industrial design of the Batis lenses is unmatched IMO.
"I am your moron" 😆😆😆😉 bruh love your videos
I had to stop the video and rewind when you said Pentax! Come join us! As a Pentaxian! We welcome all that have seen the light!
Kacey and Zeiss lenses now this is entertainment!!
I see you post I click, simple as that :)
@TiagoLacerra
2 жыл бұрын
I do the same in your channel.
@thaticelandicguy
2 жыл бұрын
@@TiagoLacerra thank you Tiago!
My six or seven Sony Zeiss and Zeiss lens are the LAST LENS I WOULD SELL... truly amazing looking lens.
I used too love Toneh Braxton
Try out the samyang 24mm f1.8, only 220 or 230g, super sharp, smooth bokeh, and LOW LOW LOW Focus Breathing, you'll look totally pro, as long as nobody actually sees your lens 😂. Like no samyang lens you've ever tried.
I have an unnatural love for my 24/1.4 GM but then again I'm just a aurora pano photographer. I do have the Batis 18 as well. It's a nice lens for sure. Wish it was f/2 or 1.8 tho.
Tony 4 for my taste. For photo's I like blur but for video even 3.5 on the toneh scale was too much for me. Who decided blurred things looked better. Oh yeah, Tony.
i wonder why they didn't put IS in this lens, the 85 Batis has it
i swear i remember you specifically saying a year back that 24mm isn't wide enough lol.
@cameraconspiracies
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't have a 19 inch tripod back then.
You're not alone bro, i got it too😃
Ah, the focus breathing. I've seen that on so many channels, and I always thought they were using some cheapo kit lens. Now I know.
@JohnDrummondPhoto
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Kasey hit close to home with that. I shoot Canon and the lenses are great, except they all breathe like a woman on labor.
9:02 Ahh yes now we're back to the equiv of your M43 12mm f/1.4
“Here, not in the g master” 🤣
I just Bought this too
13:40 i feel attacked
😱😱😱 HOW DID YOU KNOW I WAS DRINKING COFFEE!!! YOU MUST BE A GHOST FROM THE FUTURE!!! 😱😱😱
What's up with those cars?
How could you. Why didn't you choose an advanced focus machine like the ones found in Panasonic?!!!
Thats my chair. You must be brilliant.
Nice mullet.
It's not coffee mister Camera Conspiracies, it's tea. But you almost had me.
Dude. Coffee jitters are what stabe is for...
I have the 18, 25 and 85 Batisisisses. Love the 85 (first I got), like the 25 (2nd arrival) but 18 is flat (for colour and contrast) in comparison. I don't use it much. Or even at all now...
@gkoricic
2 жыл бұрын
Sell the 18 and get a 40. It should sit nicely between 25 and 85. And it also has best colours and pop.
@09williamsa
2 жыл бұрын
The 40mm f2 CF is the best lens in the Batis Lineup, sell your 18, get the 40.
Ok this one was hilarious ngl
if your use of both lense was on the same camera...then, for me the colour of the Zeiss knocks the Sony off its throne. Cheers from Victoria.