UPDATE: After editing a number of videos on my new M2 (8GB+512GB) I have found that, as expected, it's much faster when working with 4K files. But 8GB RAM does struggle when Muti-tasking. So if I have a browser window open with my usual 15 pinned tabs and try to edit at the same time, I find it can get laggy, until I close the browser. For regular user 8GB RAM will not be an issue. But for multi-takers like me, 16GB RAM is a better choice. Saying that I don't feel like spending an extra 200 for the RAM, so Im going to keep what I got and make it work for me. Just means don't browse the web and edit at the same time. LOL

@AnjuliMack

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing this! I like to edit my videos on my iMac but it is 2015 and keeps going black when I'm working and have too many tabs open so I am thinking M2 16GB 512GB :) Appreciate this review.

Finally, someone showing disk speeds for the 512GB mini model. Thanks!

@ChigzTech

Жыл бұрын

Yes, was looking forward to those results myself.

@jhalexi

Жыл бұрын

Es mucho mejor que el de 256GB. Es vergonzoso lo que ha hecho Apple con los modelos de entrada.

@spacecadet2172

Жыл бұрын

@@ChigzTech please post AmorphousDiskMark results, not just Blackmagic which only tests limited parameters

@SimonKabbaj

Жыл бұрын

super slow half speed if you compare with 1TB

@spacecadet2172

Жыл бұрын

@@SimonKabbaj Incorrect. The 1TB model of M2 mini is the same speed as the 512GB model. Only the M2 Pro 1TB model is different than the 512GB M2 Pro model. But both those are faster than any config of the M2 mini, including 2TB

Thanks dude !! I was looking for this to make a decision!

First video of yours that I’ve seen but I loved the variety of testing.

@ChigzTech

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great video showcasing this mate 👍. I ordered the m2 mini with the 16gb ram upgrade instead and an external 2tb ssd. Figured $200 for 512gb upgrade was a bit of a waste, given that I could get a larger external ssd for much less. Although the external ssd speeds are not as fast as the inbuilt ones, the ram upgrade just felt a bit more worth the extra $200 given the multitasking workload I’m used to

Great little box. Works with my video, mouse and (mostly) keyboard.

Looks great, nice job by you agin, could you please review formular Z11 pro max , everyone talking about it

😁😁😁👍👍👍..awesome chigz...

@ChigzTech

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

The space grey makes the mac mini looks soo much better

@ChigzTech

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I wish it was still an option.

I work on normal apps like MS Office and browsing and Google docs etc. In this case, shall I go for 16GB RAM or 512GB SSD. I have budget for one upgrade.

KRCS are an alternative store for Uk customers that offer custom configurations at slightly cheaper prices than from Apple direct. If you’ve access to the Apple education store then you can also get good savings. The cost of the ram and SSD upgrades are somewhat expensive. It’s a shame that RAM and SSD are not user upgradable.

@paulhorn24

Жыл бұрын

Have a look at the teardown videos: the RAM is a unified memory so it is inside the CPU. The SSD storage is another thing, that indeed could have been user upgradeble.

I thought that increasing the memory to 16 GB is better than increasing the ssd because you can use an external ssd which is cheaper than apple drugstore prices.

I just bought the M2 Mac Mini with 16gb of ram, 512 ssd and the Studio Display with the tilt stand. It’s a very nice upgrade from my 2018 MacBook Pro hooked up to my Thunderbolt Display, I’m really happy with it so far!

does the base model of m2 mac mini not support 4k 120hz? im confused @9:46

So if I don’t do video editing the 256 is fine? I think I’d like to go for the 16 gb of memory over 512 ssd.

Can you send the audio track from a movie that has a Dolby Atmos track to an avr compatible receiver via HDMI ?

Capcut video works Perfect on my M2 16gb 512gb😊

I am looking for a Mac Mini Silicon. Just not sure should get the M1 or M2 that I seen use. Your speed testing and explanation of the 256GB vs 512GB is very helpful. Comparing to the other mini PCs, they might have better performance but the M2 MM would still worth more down the road. The advantages of those mini PCs are the cheaper cost and ability to expand ram and storage, which is such a shame they solder them in the newer MM.

For creators I agree its the best bet, but for someone that prefers windows laptops, can you review some interesting decent ones for the buck? Great review as usual.

@hermanstokbrood

Жыл бұрын

Every fan boy thinks he is a creator. The bottom line is: 99% of all buyers don't need the power. They only care about owning one. Marketing is powerful.

@YOH_MUSIC

Жыл бұрын

@@hermanstokbrood Not really, I think it's about the ecosystem. For me atleast I don't like the macos, but would prefer it's efficient power equivalent on a windows laptop without being too expensive.

Dope Video! 👍 #chigz

I wish they would give us mac mini colours. I miss the colour of the last intel one.

Which is the model number of MAC MINI 2023 (512GB), MMFJ3 or MMFK3?

You can also buy a 2TB external SSD for about $250 and get ~3000 Gbps, and also you won't be wearing out the internal drive. The mac mini isn't going anywhere so I don't mind having an external hanging out of it

@Damianthelovetour2024

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Another issues with the 256 is it shares ssd for ram. Something to think about. 512 prob minimum. I got the base haven’t opened it yet. Returning it. Should save for m2 pro lol

So do I need the PRO or can I just upgrade the base model to 16 RAM and 512 GB storage?

@paulhorn24

Жыл бұрын

You can upgrade the M2 as you like. But have a closer look at the difference between the M2 Mac mini product line and the M2 Pro: more TB ports, HDMI is better with the M2 Pro and so on. So compare them closely with your needs in mind.

@ChigzTech

Жыл бұрын

You can upgrade the base model, 16GB + 512GB = £400 more.

I was thinkig to buyMac mini M2 with 16 GB memory.　You think no need 16GB memory for JUST EDITING VIDEOS with premier Pro?

I think if you want 4 thunderbolt ports you'd need the Mac mini M2 Pro :)

@darthyautja3442

Жыл бұрын

Yes and has HDMI 2.1 too.

Im using a Mac mini Modell 2018, 3,2GHz i7, 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD. Most used for picture processing (C1). In the last time the system is „slowing down“, that means the rainbow colored ball is often displayed with long delay times of working. The SSD is 90% full of data. So the question is: Is it worth to update to Mac Mini M2pro?

@paulhorn24

Жыл бұрын

If you decide for the M2 Pro, than only in the base configuration, as many Tech reviewers have pointed out. 16 GB of unified memory or more. 512 GB internal storage and buy cheaper external storage. 10GBit Ethernet for the future, if you think about High-Speed Network Storage in the years to come. But really longterm, this Ethernet Storage and Internet Access with High Speed.

@kkehoe5

Жыл бұрын

I’d say just get a base model Mac Studio that comes with the M1 Max, 32GB of RAM and 512GB storage. Two extra Thunderbolt ports in the front and a front SD card slot for those photos. It has the same footprint of a Mac Mini, just about 2.5x taller.

@garypancake2624

Жыл бұрын

I guess you need more free space on SSD for good speed storage subsystem. Just try move some data to external drive and compare speed. In some configurations free space on SSD uses for some system purposes. Small amount of free space can slow down disk operations...I'm not sure this is correct for Apple file system...but you can try it.

@cristiabc1310

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhorn24 wifi6 is fast enough .. no need 10GBit in my opinion

@paulhorn24

Жыл бұрын

@@cristiabc1310 Thanks a lot for this comment. It fits just right into something I just learned yesterday. I probably was mistaken about the availability of affordable Network Attached Storage (NAS). Because I saw the “1big Dock SSD Pro” and the “1big Dock” from Lacie. Knowing that the Lacie company is the most expensive manufacturer of external storage solutions I had the impression that all the other companies in this market will be cheaper. Lord was I mistaken.

i confused when used mac not usual, low customization

Unfortunately you will need to spend 2k to get nice Mac mini this time around. Mac mini m2 pro with 32 gb ram and 1 tb is the way to go.

New Macs with macOS Ventura are much more user friendly so don't be scared to ditch Windows. My new M2 Mini 512 (non-Pro) is crazy quiet as well. Fan noise is non-existent... even while watching multiple 4K KZread videos etc. Text is crazy clear even on my goofy 43" Samsung M7 4K HDR monitor. HDMI to HDMI 2.1 is the way to go for clean text. It's like I got a new eyeglass prescription.🤓

@bengoey

Жыл бұрын

Could you tell me what do you mean by HDMI to HDMI 2.1 ? Sorry I am not good with technical stuff. Thank you.

@robnation2475

Жыл бұрын

@@bengoey I'm using the HDMI output from the Mac M2 mini to the HDMI input on my monitor with a newer version 2.1 HDMI to HDMI cable.

@bengoey

Жыл бұрын

@@robnation2475 Thank you for the explanation

@robnation2475

Жыл бұрын

@@bengoeyyou're welcome 😁 I got mine from Amazon. JSAUX brand, 2.1 8K HDMI cable. Great price for a 2-pack.

At the moment I have a 2021 system because I needed a setup for three minitors and it is just as fast or a little faster than M2/M2 Pro, so the Mac mini does not bring me any advantage. Apple as always two to three years late

By adding 16g ram and 512g ssd to a Mac 2 mini you are $300 away from Mac 2 mini Pro. At that point make the decide to upgrade or not. Keeping the Mac 2 On a 5 yr plan that is a $ 60 dollars a year upgrade. I Will sell this Mac mini pro in five years and recoup a higher return on the Mac mini Pro so it’s worth the upgrade investment to me. I upgraded to pro based on that

Hmm an 8GB base model with just 512GB SSD? I'm not understanding the reason to get this model. It's not like the Intel Mac Mini in comparison is the base model (Core i3).

@ChigzTech

Жыл бұрын

512GB is enough for me and I usually work from a 2TB external SSD and LPDDR5 RAM will be faster. I anticipate to use this new M2 model for at least 2 years maybe 3.

Warranty is pretty much irrelevant, under consumer law you're covered for up to 6 years my mac mini 2012 went tits up after 5 years the motherboard/GPU went, and apple replaced it for free.

Can I use your Mac store reference in the US?

I thought HDMI supports 4K @ 240HZ, so it's 2.1, not 2.0

@ChigzTech

Жыл бұрын

Only the pro model supports 4K 240. The base model is limited to 4K 60 via HDMI.

Weird Apple is not fitting 2.5gbe as standard.

@scbond

Жыл бұрын

It’s a mac mostly aimed at everyday users who plan on browsing the internet, watching videos, listening to music. Why include 2.5GB ethernet when the vast majority of the customers buying it won’t know what it is?!

8GB Ram on a desktop in 2023. Apple sticking it to their customers time and again

Wow I’m so supprised at you. I have been following you for years. And I’m gob snaked that you believe the 512 ssd is faster than the 256. You are going to find tha 8 gig too little for your editing so the machine will use the ssd as vram. Not good. Your better option was the 16gig ram and buy an 2tb ssd to plug into thunderbolt. I’ve got the classic 27 inch iMac i7 48 gig ram. I am running my windows setup and Ubutu at the same time using PARALLELS and I can drop and drag files from one is to another. It runs my window faster than my dell risen 7 did. The external ssd on thunderport slaughters your ssd for read and write. So my internal ssd has the os s on but my user folders are on the ext ssd with loads of space. The int ssd just has to load is and apps. Files are save external. I’ve been pc man for years. Trained as a MCSE but my son said get Mac. And everything just seems to work. Gone from Android to iphone. Again everything just seems to work. Apple are just being greedy charging crazy money for the upgrades. They can because the know nobody can upgrade themselves. Third party repair is made harder. But if you like the product you buy it. Ram is everything for speeding up a machine. This applies with pc and Mac. Storage can be added externally. I think your going to find your new machine start to slow as you pile heavy files through it

@ChigzTech

Жыл бұрын

There are actually many videos to prove that Apple uses a much slower 256GB SSD in the base model. This is also the case in Mac Mini M1 and also in the MacBook Pro models. Apple is cutting corners. I did not upgrade the RAM as the new M2 Models use LPDDR5. My 2018 model used LPDDR3. The way I work, I don’t need more RAM, I know I will manage just fine with this. Already started working with it and it’s a beauty.

@johnnewns3445

Жыл бұрын

@@ChigzTech good luck with it. Please keep us notified over a period of how it’s comparing with your m1 setup. I would have expected the m2 to process work faster. Love to see how you get on.

@scbond

Жыл бұрын

@@ChigzTechnot really cutting corners…99% of customers buying the Mac mini really won’t see or care about an SSD that runs at 1,500MB/s vs 3,000MB/s. Very fast vs double very fast. Like I said, most people won’t care.

Sell me your 2018?

The fan boys get crazy. I really don't understand why people get crazy. It's just a naked computer for a lot of money. It even doesn't has a powersupply.

@xray2785

Жыл бұрын

It has an internal power supply

@paulhorn24

Жыл бұрын

If you don’t understand, the Mac mini is obviously not for you. Fair enough. Choose your thing and be happy, but let Mac mini users be happy too. No need for Hate or shaming.

@geoff4705

Жыл бұрын

It costs what a mid-range phone costs. Less with the educational discount. And it has a power supply. That is how it gets power.

@hermanstokbrood

Жыл бұрын

@@geoff4705 Well, it still is a fanboy thing. €719 for a naked computer is very expensive. If you want some decent storage and ram (16gb/512gb isn't that crazy) it's €1569. In my book that's robbery. A powerfull HP ryzen 7 laptop 16gb/512 is €799 to puts things in perspective and yes it has a charger in the box 😁

@scbond

Жыл бұрын

You literally don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.

you want the 16GB RAM

@ChigzTech

Жыл бұрын

I tested the 16GB version too. Very slow storage speeds. Just upgrade the storage.

@tadghsmith1457

Жыл бұрын

@@ChigzTech But is the slower storage actually noticeable in real world use cases? You can also get an external SSD for more space. Wouldn't having more memory make a bigger overall difference?

M2 mini has super slow ssd i disppointed

@ChigzTech

Жыл бұрын

256GB is is very slow, 512GB is double-speed.

@scbond

Жыл бұрын

It isn’t fucking super slow at all. Read speeds of 1,500MB/s. Roughly three times that of a 2.5” SSD.

👍🏾

@ChigzTech

Жыл бұрын

👍

You should’ve emulated PS2 games on AetherSX2 instead

@ChigzTech

Жыл бұрын

PS2 was easy to emulate.

Let’s go run Windows and compete with other mini pc performance

Isn't ram non upgradable ? 8GB is not that much.

@geoff4705

Жыл бұрын

You cannot install additional RAM yourself. So get what you think you'll need when you order the machine.

@jondonnelly4831

Жыл бұрын

@@geoff4705 Circumstances change over the lifespan (4 years+) of a computer. The old mac mini's were upgradable. This is a step backwards and it's very disapointing.

@ChigzTech

Жыл бұрын

Not upgradable but it is LPDDR5 RAM, sufficient for my needs. Plan on using this for the next 2-3 years. Already enjoying the performance. It’s a treat to work with.

Pathaan🇮🇳

Why soldered SSD? Why 3x-4x overpriced Storage per TeraByte. Apple 2TB SOldered SSD ---> 800$. On Amazon , Easily replaceable 2TB Samsung 980PRO 200$. Why just 1 year warranty on something as important as a Personal Computer? Why the repair of a faulty Dead SSD is Replacing the whole guts of the computer likely resulting in the customer paying half the price of the machine? Why people dumb and ignorant as shit? Why Apple Evil?

@scbond

Жыл бұрын

Why do you care?! If you don’t like it don’t let it bother you. You clearly hate Apple and Macs yet you’re watching Apple Mac videos on the internet 😂

@codenamegrs9278

Жыл бұрын

@@scbond another braindead person . move along kiddo . you can't yet. get more xp , level up ...

You have money to burn?

@paulhorn24

Жыл бұрын

This is a Hate-comment or shaming-comment. Be nice to each other and respect each others choices and needs. Everyone is different.

@Iceyfire12

Жыл бұрын

Why wouldn’t a KZreadr w/ 300k+ subscribers have Many especially tech ones get more!

@iflarnted

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhorn24 No, it's a joke comment.

@glatt1817

Жыл бұрын

It's 699.00 in the education store in the US, which means it compares very well with any of the other Mac offerings. In my opinion, the extra speed is the bonus in getting 512gb ssd--the real upgrade is the extra space (with 256gb being just too little for something that I would hope to get years of use out of). Personally, I went with the 16gb 512gb ssd M1 years ago, and I don't regret the upgrades to the base. It cost me under 800,00, but it will last for a long time.

@paulhorn24

Жыл бұрын

@@iflarnted What a lame excuse. It is not by the culprit to decide if it was insulting. Sir, you can do better.