Links to the FCC law: www.fcc.gov/media/over-air-reception-devices-rule www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/installing-consumer-owned-antennas-and-satellite-dishes 📡 For an antenna recommendation visit my website 👉 www.antennamanpa.com/index.html

@johnpinckney4979

Жыл бұрын

The FCC only has Rules and Regulations. Which are based on laws and interpretations of laws passed by the Congress. There are no FCC "laws".

@brucelipsitz7545

Жыл бұрын

​@@johnpinckney4979 I certainly hope that OTARD has the force of law.

@johnpinckney4979

Жыл бұрын

@@brucelipsitz7545 In Virginia, HOA CC&R's carry the force of law via either the Deed for the property and/or the Virginia Homeowner Associations Act. The latter has successfullly withstood every court challenge for over seventy years.

@williamjones4483

Жыл бұрын

@@johnpinckney4979 The effect is the same. Laws are derived from legislation which is passed by our elected officials. Rules and regulations are derived administratively. The FCC can and will levy fines and penalties against those that do not comply with these rules and regulations. Furthermore, the guiding principle of allowing radio and television station to operate is that they do so as a public necessity and in the public interest. To not allow for outdoor antennas goes against that principle.

@SCP_Bright

17 күн бұрын

@@williamjones4483 don't comment on matters you know nothing about

My HOA lists in the paperwork that outdoor antennas are prohibited. I tried the antenna in the attic and it didn't work. After some inspection I realized the gable area that I was pointing "through" was plaster over wire mesh effectively becoming a Faraday cage for that wall. I decided to move the antenna outside and I showed the same FCC regulation to them and it worked well. Ten years later the cord is still cut and my antenna is still up. Great info for all of us sir!

@AntennaMan

Жыл бұрын

Props to you for standing up to your HOA! As I said in the video, most probably just aren't aware the law exists. I wasn't until a few years ago.

@timstamps5281

Жыл бұрын

Most outdoor antennas in the city where I live have the cord cut - off the antenna. Most towers still standing next to houses with antennas are not even being used. The only cord they cut was off the antenna. 😢

@vaderladyl

Жыл бұрын

@@AntennaMan Many don't have the common sense to check if the HOA is truly right so they let that HOA walk all over them.

@FtanmoOfEtheirys

Жыл бұрын

But now you look like the neighborhood redneck lol.

When we were looking for a new house, we received the HOA rules which had the antenna restriction on your personal house in their area. We decided not to purchase a house in that area because of the antenna restriction. We were unaware of the FCC rules on TV antenna. However, the house that we did buy, had no restrictions, and we still get 40 or so channels from the local area.

@Swoliosis1

8 ай бұрын

You didn't buy a house because you thought you couldn't have an antenna? WOW.

@gibblespascack1418

8 ай бұрын

There were a few houses to choose from, we decided to pass on the HOA houses. Plus, I am use to having a good exterior antenna, at least 30 feet off the ground.@@Swoliosis1

good evening! I am the current president of an HOA here in southeastern, Michigan, and a longtime amateur radio operator, will have had my license for 30 years this June. at one time, I had a satellite dish on my roof, but took it down when we had the roofing replaced, but left. my outdoor antenna set up to receive local broadcasts. I don’t remember there being any issues with our homeowners association, and have not heard any complaints from residence during my time on the board. I am very pleased that you have revisited this FCC ruling on HOA’s and antennas with today’s video, and at our next meeting, I plan to go over that with the rest of our board. as mentioned before, I have not heard about any issues between our HOA and the residence, but it never hurts to go over these things from time to time to help keep it that way. Thanks again.

over a decade ago I inherited my grandparent's home in an upper middle class neighborhood in a somewhat rural town, and I'm so thankful we have never had an HOA, and that I've never had to deal with HOA karens, and my house has had a roof antenna for as long as I can remember being alive, even when the house had cable for well over a decade in the 00's we kept it as backup for times of bad weather before cutting the cord became viable again in my area finally getting good internet, and it still works great with a newer cable, and preamp run a few years back to my main TV in my game room, I will always have an antenna on at least one TV in my home as long as there is OTA signal being broadcast. 👍

Back in the late 90's I was living on the 14th floor in a high rise apartment building near Washington DC. I'd had a DirecTV dish that I brought from my previous home in another part of the state. My 14th floor balcony had a perfect, unobstructed view of the southern sky. I went to Home Depot and bought one, single cinder block. The guy at the store asked "why just one block". I told him I was mounting an antenna with it. I brought it home, drilled holes for the two long bolts for the DirecTV antenna plate, and I was on the air. The cable was run through a convenient hole near the air conditioning and I got 99% signal strength. No one on the ground could see the dish and it sat there for a few years until I finally moved out. Lesson here is, there's always more than one way to get things done! I'm a former radio station owner (X3) and had to come up with all kinds of strange things to make gear work at my stations, but it was always fun! Love your videos, Antenna Man. Wish I could buy you lunch sometime and talk shop!

Thank you for your recent antenna recommendation. My reception is brilliant! It works outside on the patio and inside in the living room. I never knew there were so many stations.

Very good video. I was a trustee on a hoa board and fought other trustees to allow antennas. Most trustees are Karens who cannot understand what they read. Elect your trustees wisely and don't be afraid of them and dissolve your hoa as soon as possible.

@AntennaMan

Жыл бұрын

One of the people who signed up to my antenna recommendation service last week was an HOA president. I told him to stand up to his HOA if he ends up needing to install the antenna outside. He said it would be awkward. I don't see how, the HOA is in violation of the law.

@telecomgear

Жыл бұрын

When possible, elect men. They're more logical and women are emotional. The odds are in favor of men of success.

@johnpinckney4979

Жыл бұрын

@@AntennaMan LOL! "Laws" apply only to those who obey or enforce them. HOA's will sue for Breach of Contract if you put up an anyenna and refuse to remove it when ordered. Many also have the power to put fines and liens against your property if you dare to put up an antenna.

@Noone9227

Жыл бұрын

@@telecomgear Not in my case. See my main post. My HOA President is the type of person that needs to feel important. As my husband’s dad worked at the same place he did, we know he got laid off and his uncle (named “Snuffy” - No, I’m not kidding) got walked out of there for employee theft. I work from home and see him home nearly the entire day everyday while his wife goes to work. That has to be pretty emasculating for him.

@Noone9227

Жыл бұрын

@@AntennaMan I didn’t stand up to mine because 1) we were already having adjustment issues and thought it would piss off our neighbors, and 2) we weren’t sure after how we were treated if we wanted to continue living here and invest in a $2K antenna tower.

Fortunately my present HOA doesn't give a rat's butt what I do and I have a fairly large antenna attached to a second floor wall outside pointing towards the transmitters which also fortunately are close together some 35 miles away, I get every channel that exists in Central Iowa. Years ago though I was in another HOA which tried to tell me I couldn't put an outside antenna up. I knew about this law and called the HOA secretary to cite it to her. She said "no it's against our regulations" to which I said "you can't have regulations that are against the law. I'm putting up my antenna and just try to take it down". She said she'd "look into it" but they never touched it.

Thanks for always finding ways to help cord cutters.

@AntennaMan

Жыл бұрын

Thank YOU for watching this video. It helps the KZread algorithm recommend the video to other people which also helps cord cutters.

@drunkensquirrel7545

Жыл бұрын

​@@AntennaMan A million thanks to you! We get by OK with indoor antennas now, but that's likely to change soon. Our HOA is OK with antennas for now, but that could change at any time.

@brucelipsitz7545

Жыл бұрын

​@@drunkensquirrel7545 Whether or not your HOA is "okay" with outdoor antennas is irrelevant.

In an HOA, put up lots of antennas. Not just TV, but FM, scanner, and most pissing-off-ly, AM and shortwave antennas, as they are the largest. Remember, AM and shortwave have broadcast services meant for the general public, so they fall under the FCC rules as well! It doesn't matter if if you have receivers, just put 'em up! Don't forget to add a few dummy cameras on a tall mast as well. I did, and now everyone wants to be my friend. 😁

@ki5aok

Жыл бұрын

No they don't. Amateur radio antennas do not fall under this rule (which is a damn shame). This is only good for reception of over-the-air television signals and wireless broadband. Everything else can by regulated by an HOA.

You can't agree to anything that is illegal. Sweet concise advice, Tyler. It will go far.

@AntennaMan

Жыл бұрын

I should have said "you can't agree to an agreement that's illegal" but I think the point was made

@jimlocke9320

Жыл бұрын

I am not an attorney but I think the legal term is "unenforceable". When you signed the paperwork, you agreed not to install an exterior antenna. However, you did so, as permitted by Federal law. So, the HOA or landlord tries to enforce what you agreed to and finds that you can't be penalized for violating that clause in the agreement. Many of these agreements do have separate clauses that address the "unenforceable" issue.

Good the see that law alive and well! The talk about attic antennas and satellite antennas reminded me of when me and a friend setup a 9 foot dish (a Bob Luli/Toki) in the living room out of pure boredom. Amazingly we got Galaxy 1 (yes, that long ago!).

Thank you for sharing this information! I will be spreading this everywhere! Here in this state, it is a problem!

Preach it! I made sure when we finally bought a home in '19 there were no stupid rules as this, HOA was definitely not happening. Hidin' in Dryden, MI

A few decades ago I lived in a condo building that didn't have a TV antenna and I didn't want to pay for cable TV. I owned a top floor unit and found an attic access port, looked up there and found a nice location for an antenna above where my TV was in the front room. I got all the parts together, crawled up there and installed it, and it worked great (no metal roofing components or duct work in the way). When I sold the place I simply pushed the coax cable in the living area up through the ceiling drywall and patched the hole, no one was the wiser. 😊

I got approval from my HOA to install an antenna. I had trouble with reception on several VHF channels even though I live 25 miles away from the towers. My house is made of stucco possibly contributing to reception issues. I was looking for someone who could install my antenna outside when I discovered a cable in my bedroom closet that leads to the living room, so I connected my antenna to it and it greatly improved reception. So glad I was able to save some money.

@brucelipsitz7545

Жыл бұрын

Did you actually need "approval"?

@Noone9227

Жыл бұрын

Everyone is having trouble with VHF. Everyone!

@BlackSmokeDMax

Жыл бұрын

You definitely did not need their approval if you live in a standalone house.

@danny6032

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackSmokeDMax I live in a townhome

@BlackSmokeDMax

Жыл бұрын

@@danny6032 ah! My bad, Sounds like you went the correct route then!

Great advice, Good backup info and thanks for sharing.

I live in a condo complex with attics. The units were built before cable TV was available in the area and before satellite TV was offered. The builder apparently provided an attic antenna for each unit. These antennas were combination VHF/UHF, had longer rods for receiving RF channels 2-6, and, I felt, skimped on the UHF. When I "cut the cord" on my cable TV, I installed new antennas for VHF and UHF in my attic and am pleased with the reception. My HOA does allow outdoor antennas but requires the installers to be licensed. I avoided that expense and also placed my antennas out of view. Another plus: when the HOA replaces the roofs, it takes down the antennas and leaves it to the residents to reinstall them after the reroofing is complete. I do not experience an interruption in TV reception.

I am so glad we don't live in an HOA. All I have to do is comply with a few simple city regulations when putting up my TV and HAM antennas. There are separate regulations WRT amateur radio antennas that guarantee than you can put one up. And I have never seen such a creative bunch of people as amateur radio operators. I have seen plans on how to turn your outdoor flagpole into an antenna! Take care, and happy cord cutting. AE6YT

@JESUSCHRYSLER5512

Жыл бұрын

I IMAGINE YOU VOMITING IN YOUR HAM RADIO AND RUINING IT!!

@eminence_front6043

Жыл бұрын

It's surprising what you can use for an antenna.

Tyler.. can us non users respond? I want to not be connected but repeatedly you!! My feelings is that every day my options diminish. Anyway.. thanks for standing up as young as you are! You’re awesome!

Thanks for the information! It’s always nice to have a direct reference to Federal Laws regarding the protection of our rights. There are a different set of rules for Ham Radio antennas and towers. Most often if one is actively involved with SAR, weather monitoring, Emergency services, Red Cross communications, even FEMA volunteers, the HOA rules are totally moot. Most often we take great care in disguising our antennas so as not to Pee Off the Karen’s and Kens. For VHF and UHF there is one product called Ventenna that can fit over the vent stack for the drain lines in your home. One’s excuse is that the stack does not draw properly and the plumber has recommended and installed the "extension" to eliminate sewer odors. Most HOA's do not prohibit the installation of flag poles but there might be some height limits. Fiberglass poles are excellent for disguising HF vertical antennas with the proper coupling equipment.

Before I installed my outdoor antenna, I sent a letter to the president of our HOA quoting the FCC rules regarding my right to set up and antenna. The HOA sent me a letter confirming my decision and said that due to the documents I sent them, they had changed there rules prohibiting installation.

@ki5aok

Жыл бұрын

Excellent win for you. Congratulations.

So important to talk about this

I learned something new watching this.

most HOAs be like, "pay us money so we can tell you how to keep your home, or GTFO"

@stickyfox

Жыл бұрын

That is indeed the definition of a HOA.

@vaderladyl

Жыл бұрын

That is why I refuse to live in a HOA neighborhood.

Thanx Tyler!

This is really good information to know thank you.

Coral Gables in Miami Metro Area where everything is prohibited, NO ANTENNAS permits, even to paint your house you need a permit, Coral Gables its like Cuba

This was A great video update

Nice tie-dye shirt! Great advice

Great info.....!

Thank you for the video.

@AntennaMan

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching it!

I use to install DirecTV. I installed a dish to the front of the garage door per customer request because he was fighting the HOA. He was doing a FU to them. It was there for a year.

@ki5aok

Жыл бұрын

I had mine installed near the front of the garage on the side of the house (almost to the front left corner). It was the only viable place to put them that was close to ground.

They got me at my condo about requiring a electrical inspection with a fully bonded grounding install on any outdoor antennas attached to the building.

Great info - thank you 'antenna man' :)

Thanks Tyler

@AntennaMan

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Over 9 years ago, we cut the cord and I put 3 antenna's in our attic since we live in a hurricane area. Each was for a specific distance and direction. We have been getting over 40 channels since then and could not be happier.

@sa3270

Жыл бұрын

Can you use pre-amplifiers with multiple antennas on the same circuit?

I have looked at that rules you talk about in this post. Based on the rules, the HOA can restrict me from mounting anything to the building or the roof. I am in low area surrounded by trees. Mounting the antenna on my patio is not an option as the building is 2 floors. If I can’t mount on the side or roof then my only option is in the attic. The pole option would need to be greater than 10 feet and near the front of building not in back near patio based on signal direction etc.

@MrHominid2U

Жыл бұрын

If you have an upstairs window you might be able to attach the antenna to a window frame then run the cable into a corner of the window. You'd have to have one of the vertically flat antennas like the Clearstream 4MAX but this is what I did.

@brucelipsitz7545

Жыл бұрын

If you live in a stand-alone dwelling, you can put an antenna on the roof (mine is actually atop a pole attached to the side of the house and is about 1m above the pitch of the roof). The HOA can restrict the height to 3.6m above the pitch.

We used to put our antenna in the attic years ago, ie. 1974. Nice tie dye, BTW

Thanks!

@AntennaMan

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the contribution!

In condominiums, you may have a restriction on putting the antenna cable through the outside wall. Two reasons: first, a bad installation could result in water intrusion with resulting dry rot or mold problems; second, in a condominium, you don't actually own the exterior wall, the association does. You may need to get an authorized handyman or contractor to do that work (to make sure it's done correctly) or pay the association to have it done. Unless it's done on an overhang area, you shouldn't mount the antenna on the roof, again so you don't have water intrusion and the association owns the roof over your head. From an aesthetic point of view, just use the least visible location where you can get an adequate signal. I remember seeing a house where the front door was centered on the front elevation with a gable over the front porch, and the lazy dish installer mounted the dish at the top of the gable, it reminded me of a high school kid with a big zit on the forehead. Don't do that with your antenna. When I installed my antenna, I disconnected the cable box and used that line into the house; automatic win for having things pre-wired to where I needed them.

Tampa Florida check in ❤

Love it when the Antenna Man goes full rebel!

Knew a guy once who like to play around on the upper bands, so what he did was mount some old glass insulators up in his attic space so he could string up an anttena using the entire square footage available.

Some apartment complexes have a built in Master antenna system already installed. Look for the connections in your apartment near where your cable TV outlet is. It may be done with twin lead connections. (Two round pin holes in the otherwise blank plate.

@jimlocke9320

Жыл бұрын

Master antenna systems were common before cable TV was offered in the apartment complexes. I found that many of these systems carried only the VHF channels 2-13. The twin lead or coaxial cables distributing the signals had high loss at UHF. Also, these systems had distribution amplifiers that only worked in the VHF band. A few of these systems had translators for UHF channels, giving them VHF channels within the system. In any case, once cable TV became available, many apartment complexes stopped maintaining their master antenna systems. The digital transition has moved most of the channels to UHF RF assignments, which the older master antenna systems can not handle, even if they were still being maintained.

Excellent video Tyler.

@AntennaMan

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching it!

@pvm1081

Жыл бұрын

@@AntennaMan Thanks for doing it man.

I agree 👍

Love the shirt! Got one just like it. I will have to look into this law as I have a friend that lives in a trailer park that does not allow outdoor antennas and she owns the trailer.

@AntennaMan

Жыл бұрын

A trailer might be tricky because the lot it's on might not be considered "exclusive access" but rather a shared area by other trailers.

@doogie812

Жыл бұрын

@@AntennaMan She is close enough to the towers that a wet noodle outside would be an adequate antenna. A small one with VHF-hi in a flowerpot is my thinking. The fact that the lot lease states NO outdoor antennas is the problem. The rule was cooked up between the land owner and the cable company.

Every country has written in the Constitution,right to be informed,no one is above that,so those are breaking the law by not giving you the right to be informed. Any way,included outdoor antenna.Nice one Tyler😎

HOA = Screaming Karren's with nothing better to do. Thank you for this info.

@Noone9227

Жыл бұрын

And Ken’s/Kevin’s too.

My landlord did have an issue with me mounting an antenna to the side of the balcony. Indoor antennas did very little to get any usable reception from my local stations since I'm about 30 miles from the transmit towers and I live in a concrete apartment building... Fortunately they were OK with me having my antenna on the inside of my balcony where I still got reception just fine - it's indistinguishable from where I had had it before. So I won't press the issue. But it's good to know that rules against having an antenna or dish on a balcony are illegal. Btw, for getting the cable from my outdoor antenna inside of my apartment, I bought a flat coax cable from Menards that is actually designed to go under a door or window. Before that I just had a straight up RG6 cable going into the bottom corner of my balcony door nearest to the hinge and I had issues with the door sealing against wind. It's much better with the flat cable though.

Cool video!

@AntennaMan

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching it!

Our HOA prohibited any antennas visible from the street. Just one problem: Satellite antennas need to face south, so all the houses on the north side of the street just ignored the prohibition. I sold that house a long time ago, and now live in a beach house in a gated community with no HOA but a common fund for maintenance of gate, road, and beach access.

@ki5aok

Жыл бұрын

Same problem with my dishes. They need to face south, but I can't put them in the back away from direct sight from the street as there's a house blocking the line-of-sight for the signal. Mine have to be put on the side, which caused the HOA to send me a letter over a year after the dishes went up. I paid DirecTV to send a tech out to evaluate if the dishes could be moved further down the side, and the tech said I would have to bury another ground rod, which was expensive. I used this OTA rule to justify my dish location, stating that to move it would incur additional costs which violates the FCC mandate. They noted in their records that my dishes (there were two since I received international programming) were exempted from the rules and they have never bothered me since. Best $50 I ever spent. They're still there even though I moved off of DirecTV years ago. Thought about converting them to amateur radio antennas or OTA antennas...likely the latter.

Antenna in the attic works. I've had it for a long time. Reception is bad though when theres a storm. So far, never had a problem.

As a Ham Radio Operater, All Metallic Parts of a Building is a Antenna! TV Antenna can also be use in the VHF and UHF Ham Radio Operaters License Services to!

Nice tie dye!

Apartments I lived in allowed dishes, but they required a deposit. Never had an issue with a small TV antenna on my patio. My last apartment before I bought a house was built in 1980. They had jacks for a master antenna, but they didn't work anymore. A master antenna would be ideal for people in an apartment.

@kensmith5694

Жыл бұрын

In the distant past many apartment buildings had a community antenna and distribution amplifier. The cable companies got them taken out.

@brucelipsitz7545

Жыл бұрын

If the community antenna is functioning, the HOA can prohibit outdoor antennas.

There’s something to be said about having your own private property, free from rules and conditions placed on you by nosy HOA board members. My yard, my rules.

@AntennaMan

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I prefer that!

@NorthcoasterHobby

Жыл бұрын

@@AntennaMan This way I get to have my 2- 10-foot C-band satellite dishes, KU Band dishes and my TV antennas!

My HOA President said “no” to an outdoor antenna in an email. When I cited the FCC rule and that four other houses in our development had outdoor antennas, he told me to get permission from my three adjacent neighbors. The prick was also our realtor by extension as we dealt with his wife and they’re on the same realtor team. Despite having an Act I - IV with him, I’ve never met the guy. In fact, Act I was where he shook hands with all of a group of guys standing outside waiting for our first HOA meeting to begin, including my husbands, but completely blowing me off. His wife eventually got on board, and we caught them giving us a gooney look at a neighbor’s party. That was Act IV. I left bad reviews for their realtor business on various websites and am saving the email to turn into the FCC for a rainy day. Ironically, we are the ones that fixed up the house. The last owner allowed it to go into disrepair with the HOA not taking action.

@AntennaMan

Жыл бұрын

It sounds like you should get the feds involved! Show that prick HOA president who's boss.

@CommodoreFan64

Жыл бұрын

@@AntennaMan I'd be lawyering up first for some advice, and then going from there.

@mattalbrecht7471

Жыл бұрын

I would have just simply sent them a copy the law and built my antenna and told them that any legal action that they tried to take against you would be dealt with severely

@Noone9227

Жыл бұрын

@@mattalbrecht7471 I didn’t fight it because 1) we were already having adjustment issues and thought it would piss off our neighbors, and 2) we weren’t sure after how we were treated if we wanted to continue living here and invest in a $2K antenna tower.

@AntennaMan

Жыл бұрын

@@lenala9773 Maybe not, but I understand how federal laws work such as the FCC's over the air reception devices rule. No entity is above the law.

Hey bud!! So glad what you do what you do!! You’re wicked nice in so many ways! Love the shirt!! (Statement)? Just asking.. Peace!!

@AntennaMan

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you like the shirt. I've been told I'm supposed to wear more dress up shirts in my videos, but decided to wear something more casual and "rebellious" in this video.

@sneaks01

Жыл бұрын

@@AntennaMan um.. no.. you’re awesome! Be the guy you are! Love ya! Hate being the society guy but be the dude you are! Hugs!

I was thinking of moving into a condo. I was aware of their no-antenna policy. I pointed out the FCC regs, and the fact that the neighbor had a small antenna on the deck railing. I was told that the condos were so close to the antenna farm that I could get all of the stations with an interior window antenna. I told my realtor I'd have to bring a TV and window antenna to test in every room with a window before I'd sign anything. I should send the video over so the HOA could become educated. Even so, there was some talk that drilling a hole through the outside for the antenna coax might be illegal. A coax might have to go through the crack of a door or window.

@AntennaMan

Жыл бұрын

I should have mentioned flat coax cables in the video as a way to get the coax inside.

@wadebarnett2542

Жыл бұрын

@@AntennaMan Would the old flat antenna "cord" be the same thing?

@CommodoreFan64

Жыл бұрын

@@wadebarnett2542 no it's not RG6 you can get a flat female to female RG6 extension cable online with a simple search. Just make sure it's at least a foot long for flexibility.

@brucelipsitz7545

Жыл бұрын

Your proximity to the antenna farm is irrelevant. Further, if the HOA doesn't like where in your domain you put the antenna, the burden of proof to find another location which will give you good reception is on the HOA.

@NatureBoy12100

Жыл бұрын

@@wadebarnett2542 yes, if it is 300 ohm twin lead

I never purchased satellite tv because of a similiar regulation in my condo association. One guy jnstalled a dish outside his condo and the condo president at the time who was the closest thing to a "GET OFF MY LAWN!!" kind of person threatened the guy with fines etc. He took it down.

I know this will not work om rental apartments as I tried this myself before I moved. Landlord or property manger tells you you cant put wire through the window or cut a hole in the wall. If they catch it maintenance man will put a violation notice & you can lose your lease if you continue. They wont let you run the antenna outside your balcony area even on side on brick wall of building as where my TV reception was good as was facing the wrong direction. Many reported them to the FCC local bureau & they never came as they not seem to give a sh.t & local field office is 2 hours away. Since Government cut backs & I am aware FCC was in the cut back I decided to report it to main Washington DC bureau & they never replied.

HOWdy A-M, ... Thanks COOP the WiSeNhEiMeR from Richmond, INDIANA ...

A home owner that has a HOA is exactly like living in an apartment, in that you have rules, but own your home. I am lucky that my apartment community has a central OTA antenna.

Pirate iptv is more simple but yes it does cost and you gotta deal with buffering and downtime. I grew up with antenna and I hated it as nothing good was on. I live in Toronto area.

Two comments on OTARD: 1. If the HOA provides a community antenna for all residents to connect to, they can ban outdoor antennas. 2, Regarding aesthetics when installing an outdoor antenna, the HOA can restrict where you install the antenna as long as it's not in a location detrimental towards reception. And the Burden of proof is on the HOA to arrange/pay for field tests, etc. if the homeowner has a different location in mind. And a related question. What if you live in a county on the edge of your DMA, and with a decent antenna setup can easily pick up stations in the adjacent market (such stations the FCC refers to as "significantly viewed" out of market). Can the HOA restrict your antenna installation to a preferred location of theirs if it means you won't be able to pick up those stations in the adjacent market?

Some HOA's understand the antenna can't be banned. But what they can do is ban roof and wall penetrations, particularly in patio homes and condominiums. That means your antenna cannot be bolted or nailed to the wall/roof of your domicile. You can, however, mount the antenna in your private space - deck, patio, yard, etc. Some HOA's allow mounting to a fence if you have one around your private area (ask). I know of one HoA that had a clubhouse and mounted a couple dishes and a couple variations on RF antennas on that roof, then ran amplifiers and cabling throughout the common area so all units had access to tap into the antennas. Not sure how well it worked (89 units), but it was there.

For a while I was the president of an HOA. I can confirm that the HOA will back off if the law is shown to them. In our case it was a board member that said "you know that is illegal don't you" about the CCR rule. We had to "interpret" the CCR rule to mean that antennas could only be put up if they didn't violate a short list of rules. Basically: 1) Must be entirely within controlled area. 2) Must not be able to fall on anyone. 3) Must be removed by unit owner if painting is happening. 4) Must be electrically safe.

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Is the double bagel antenna he pictures any good?

When I lived in a HOA, I used a 6.5 gallon bucket to hold a short mast and my Ham Radio Antenna. I just laid it down in bad weather or whatever it wasn't in use. The HOA Karen never saw it as it was against the privacy fence

i have an APT here in Manhattan. I use an antenna. There is no way I could afford SPECTRUM cablevision/wifi just for the luxury of TV.

As KZread is international, please just note this video is related to USA only. Laws may, can most likely will be, different in other countries. FCC Only has authority in the USA not in any other country of the world. This video should have noted that from the start, or at minimum in the description.

The key words in this rule is “exclusive access.” In our building, this would enable condo owners reception in ONE (1) direction, either N,S,E, or W, and not the other 3. The only really useful direction in the city where we are located is West. That means 6 out of 33 condo owners could potentially make use of this rule to employ an antenna. We have one owner who wants to stick an antenna on the roof, and is trying to sell it as common access for all owners, but he hasn’t thought it through very well, and it’ll be a hard sell to the Board.

A hoa can only restrict if they have a central antenna system for the hoa

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The HOA where I live actually state that due to federal regulations they CAN NOT restrict owners from installing TV antennas on their property, but CAN cb radio antennas, amateur radio antennas and satellite dishes and if anything other than a TV antenna is being install the owner must get approval first. I was floored that the board understood the rules and have not tried to change them in the 60+ years the neighborhood has existed!

@SCP_Bright

9 ай бұрын

Satellite dishes are protected under FCC laws.

@tiffanypatton9293

9 ай бұрын

@@SCP_Brightare you able to point me to the statue that covers that?

Ham radio operators went through this issue for years until the FCC finally ruled in their favor. If your HOA is picking on you for the antenna tell them to check the law. I lived in a condo style community for a while and found there good at trying to make up homemade rules without even checking whats real until someone challenges them.

How about small screwdriver antennas for amateur radio?

If all else fails and you must resort to an indoor antenna what are some that might be worth bothering with? Might be a good topic for a video and it would probably get views.

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I’m moving to a school dorm soon, and I don’t think they has even allowing using a outdoor antenna in the building, which I am considering should I use a outdoor antenna inside the room?

@AntennaMan

Жыл бұрын

That's actually what I did in college. I used a 2 bay UHF antenna by the window. It picked up all local channels

Hello, does this law also apply to ham radio antennas such as 2Meter and HF Antennas. Appreciate it> Mike K1MIC Caldwell ID

Could you do a video on the difference between local tv stations and satellite tv?

@barryomahony4983

Жыл бұрын

The same FCC OTARD rule applies to satellite dishes.

@jimlocke9320

Жыл бұрын

Local TV stations broadcast signals from transmitting antennas supported by structures planted in the earth. They are assigned channels in broadcast bands set aside by the FCC, referred to as the low and high VHF (very high frequency) bands, and the UHF (ultra high frequency) band. Typically, the transmitting antennas are as high as practical to reach as many receiving antennas as possible without obstruction. The antennas may be on mountains or tall buildings. For many years, WMTW broadcast a TV signal to viewers over a large portion of New England, as well as to some of Canada and New York state, from a transmitter atop Mount Washington, the tallest mountain in New England. Local TV broadcasting was the original method of distributing TV signals and remains in extensive use today. Currently, the broadcast format is digital and transmitting antennas are typically clustered together to serve a broadcast "market", so a receiving antenna can be pointed at the cluster and receive many stations. The digital signal is not encrypted, so equipment to convert the signal for viewing is legal and readily available. Satellite TV is broadcast in the microwave band from geostationary satellites and is received by antennas shaped like dishes, pointed at the satellites. The signal is digital and is generally encrypted. (There are a few unencrypted "free to air" channels available via satellite.) Only equipment provided by the satellite TV companies is supposed to be able to decrypt the signals. There are two companies legally serving the USA, DirecTV and Dish Networks, and 2 companies legally serving Canada, Bell Satellite TV and Shaw Direct. The satellite signals do not obey country borders so it is possible to receive the Canadian services in the USA and USA services in Canada. Satellite TV provides some channels that are not available via broadcast TV. Also, it is convenient, so many customers who could get an adequate number of channels with an antenna subscribe to satellite TV just for the convenience. Satellite TV competes with cable TV, which does not use antennas to distribute its signals to customers. The FCC permits satellite TV companies to compete with cable TV in HOA complexes which might otherwise prohibit the satellite TV antennas. The FCC ruling extends to broadcast TV receiving antennas.

Good to know that there is a Law that over rides HOAs rules for outside TV antennas.

I wish I could use a tv antenna, only channel available here is a church channel, the rest are two hours away in the cities

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@AntennaMan

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

My HOA allows reasonable sized outdoor antennas in your own unit like balconies, but they restrict you from putting an antenna on a rooftop, which I think the law only applies to balconies not rooftops which are restricted by HOA, they won’t let condo owners put any large rooftop antenna due to weather conditions!

@spectral6978

Жыл бұрын

That's BS. If they allow a dish on a roof then they should allow a antenna anywhere. Weather conditions sounds like a fat excuse.

@Markimark151

Жыл бұрын

@@spectral6978 even satellite dish we weren’t allowed to have in our condo, because our balcony was facing a different direction for the signal and we can’t put it anywhere else! It’s nothing to do with the equipment in your unit, it’s the large size of rooftop antennas that sticks out that HOA bans. Even solar panels aren’t allowed with HOA!

@brucelipsitz7545

Жыл бұрын

​@@spectral6978 Except that a good HOA may be concerned that it may be poor installation which may damage the roof. Aesthetics, yes BS. Roof damage is a different story.

If I rent an apartment is there anything I can do to have a TV antenna? I'm forced to have either FIOS or Comcast if I want TV. Either 'cable' or streaming via wide band.

@AntennaMan

Жыл бұрын

An good indoor antenna and signal meter will probably help you pick up all local channels reliably. See video below: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y5N325JxqJjXlbw.html

As someone that was born in 79 grew up in the 80s houses not having an antennas is weird.

What about ham radio antennas?

I have 4 amateur antennas, one channel 5 antenna, a channel 10 antenna, a channel 12 antenna, and a channel 24 antenna, within the city limits. No problems. I am considering installing a 190 ft. tower for more antennas. Just stand your ground.

My last landl*rd told us that we couldn't have a satellite or antenna because "it makes the place look ugly". God, I wish I'd known about this back then.

@SCP_Bright

9 ай бұрын

Not your house not your property if the owner doesn't want a satellite dish or antenna on his house than tbayd final.

@ComradePhoenix

9 ай бұрын

@@SCP_Bright Federal law disagrees. Also, landl*rds are parasites.

In our HOA there is. Prohibition of antenna above 4 foot of the roofline of the home. Otherwise they are fine.

@brucelipsitz7545

Жыл бұрын

I think OTARD is 3.6m (12 ft for the metrically challenged) above the pitch of the roof. You would need HOA permission to go higher.

Love my Antenna !!! I refuse to pay for free TV !!

I gave the president the exact FCC law about this. He knows I know because I am also a ham.

Yard , balcony… what about the roof the typical place for an antenna?

I just stopped by to join the “love the shirt” brigade.

@AntennaMan

Жыл бұрын

A lot of people have said nice things about my shirt. I wasn't sure if it was too casual or not. Since the feedback is good, I'll be sure to wear more tie-dyes in future videos.