I tried not having a car for almost 2 decades but it’s a frustrating experience especially with the train breakdowns or has a delay and difficulty getting a cab (especially when it’s raining). Bought a car a few years ago and it has significantly improved my (and my family’s) overall quality of life. I’ll be definitely sticking with having a car.

@yip2454

10 ай бұрын

exactly, but its so damn crazy with the coe prices now.

Ministers should lead by example by giving up their cars and take public transport.

@kengleetan63

Жыл бұрын

Yeah and they should take the lead and apply for BTO too?😆😆😆😆

@scbchong6964

Жыл бұрын

Why don't you be a better role model to younger citizens and quit your complaining and blaming?

@yip2454

10 ай бұрын

complaning? or speaking facts@@scbchong6964

@pingumy

9 ай бұрын

ministers should stay in dormitories. so they can focus on serving ppl not luxury

Car rental companies like GetGo, BlueSG, etc. driving up COE prices is good for their business because it makes the cost of car ownership prohibitive.

Want car-lite and low COE? Start with these 2 policies 1)Limit one household to 1 car(deter the rich) 2)Make it mandatory for all vehicle purchases to only be made in FULL CASH ie no loans,installment lease whatever(deter the rest) Want to limit private vehicles coming in from Malaysia? 1)Toll, start with $20 sgd motorcycle $50 sgd for cars. Adjust accordingly. Quietly give 10-20% of toll revenues to appropriate Malaysian officials to get the green light.

@scbchong6964

Жыл бұрын

You forgot almost ALL cars are owned by singaporeans. And there are singaporean households living in HDB with more than one car. You also forgot singaporeans have high salaries and like to show off. Median household income is already S$10k per month, hor.

@ch0892

10 ай бұрын

How low of a COE would that be? That still doesn't solve the issues. And limiting 1 car to one household wont work either

@zackjacob2592

10 ай бұрын

@@ch0892 how low the coe will go will depend on demand I guess. The question is how many car owners currently pay full cash for their cars? I'm guessing a very low percentage. Why wouldn't limiting one car to one household reduce the number of cars in Singapore?

@tanalson

9 ай бұрын

You forgot that one car per household is still a lot of cars. Try counting the number of unit of your block and multiply the storeys. Tha is just one block. The root of the problem is parking spaces and car lanes. Retry reducing 90%of parking spaces and reduce one car lane on every road and street. Take away 3 car Lanes on all expressway and lots of car owners will start to give up their cars

@zackjacob2592

9 ай бұрын

@@tanalson the one car per household us to deter the rich. The full cash for purchasing a vehicle is for everyone else. Think about it, how many vehicles you see in hdb carparks are paid in full.

There's 2 main issues they missed - 1) are there better alternatives? The haphazard planning means the nearest MRT may not connect well to work or school. Often that first and last few km takes as long as train ride if you missed the bus. Of course the technocrats who have drivers cannot feel this, because I can't remember the last MP who took public transport regularly. Opportunity is the cost they don't account for. 2) distribution - I strongly disagree with Chris that utilisation is bad. People with small kids, elderly caregivers and PWDs should be allocated first because they would take their household off public transport loading and once again save opportunity cost. Want to see what I mean? Have MP push a stroller while another push wheelchair and see how fun it is to get around. Improve the quality of life, it's not just about costs.

@nicklee7002

Жыл бұрын

You are right, the time spent travelling the last mile is nearly the duration of the main journey.

@scbchong6964

Жыл бұрын

Why you like to blame MP but forgot that not everyone got same talents, skills and abilities, and attitude? Why should some singaporeans get the privilege to own a cheap car when they don't have the means to afford one?

The basic problem. 1. Demand for Cars (Actual Buyers) IS-NOT-EQUAL-TO Demand for COE 2. Demand for COE is mainly driven by Suppliers of the Cars (Actual Sellers) 3. Increase in COE prices is driven mainly by Sellers NOT Buyers, because Sellers want and need to sell cars. Thats what Car Dealers Do . 4. Most COE bids are made by Sellers on behalf of the Buyer, its NOT in their interests to bid low. Its instead in their interest to bid high to secure sales, increase revenue, make more profits, give out higher loans etc.

@alvinmah6148

Жыл бұрын

PHVs, Taxis & Luxury cars should have their own categoies.

@MLOO123

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps Buyers also plays a part as if you make it difficult to buy a Brand New car, like requires balloting, or 2nd timers and so on you need to queue or wait even longer, unless you deregister current car instead of trade in (still consider growth)... In that way there's even no need of COE system as you can buy any 2nd hand cars anytime (when zero growth) if urgently need... Only drawback is that you might not even have the chance to buy any 2nd hand cars anymore...😂😂😂

@longiusaescius2537

11 ай бұрын

Huh

@ivanteo1973

10 ай бұрын

demand is cause by the unparallel convenience created by the government. They build so many car parks. This convenience is the reason why Singaporeans prefers cars over public transport. HK is a good example why COE is not needed.

@longiusaescius2537

10 ай бұрын

@@ivanteo1973 what's different about HK?

Did the transport ministry explores the idea of restricting each household to 1 or max 2 cars. Like real estate car transport take up space and why not the government control cars like how it tame the real estate market

@longiusaescius2537

11 ай бұрын

Yeah

The record COE prices bring good revenue for the government. If car buyers are willing to pay the insane COE prices, it is not the government’s problem. Unlike housing prices, COE prices will not give rise to political problem.

@tankman20064

Жыл бұрын

Yes more FT buy

@jameslim1979

Жыл бұрын

When hawkers, small businesses need to pay 70k for a van coe, cost of everything goes up.

@kengleetan63

Жыл бұрын

Can they introduce a BTO car where the buyer got to wait at least 5 to 7 yrs for it at a nominal $1?

@MLOO123

Жыл бұрын

​​​​@@kengleetan63in fact that's also what I have been thinking. Home owners can wait few years for a brand new BTO home, why not for car owners as well? Ain't there's plenty of used cars for sale, and if can't wait, then jolly well get a 2nd hand car instead. It's not just only dealers driving up the COE prices due to the new car lite policy, but also the buyers whom only wants to buy brand new cars. Thus with similar BTO balloting system, perhaps you don't even need to pay COE anymore. Or buyers can just buy a used car and deregister immediately gets higher chance to get a new car faster, or something like that. In that way there will be zero growth (buy and scrap) and everyone happy! Let me know if that doesn't makes sense😂😂😂 as on one hand gov wants to go car lite, and the other encourage ppl to buy more EV. Does that makes sense?

LTA should step up the provision of MRT and other forms of public transport, to make car lite and sustainability a reality. Many residential homes are still too far to walk to the nearest MRT station, resulting in expensive car ownership, adding to financial stress for the young and depleting savings for the old. As a country, we should not take pride in being the world’s most expensive country to live in. Indeed, we should be ashamed.

Desire ? His desire sounds like :))

Christopher Tan has a vested interest in the car trade and motoring public. I am glad he still has a job at Straits Times. So his explanation is a little... "suspect". His explanation that the Govt's "Zero growth policy" in 2018 created the rise in COE prices would suggest that the solution (to high COE prices) would be re-introduce some growth in the car population. This would truly be counter to the policy to reduce car usage in Singapore. But his point about high COE making car usage higher (to make it worth the while) is true. After the struggle to get a car, then it becomes necessary to use the car to the maximum. But attempts to shift to a "cheap ownership-expensive usage" model has not bee popular. If it had, the weekend car scheme would have exploded in popularity. The simple fact is that a car is a status symbol. A car with a weekend car scheme licence plate is a degraded status symbol. I have a better idea. All cars will have a "scrap above $5000 damage clause" in their insurance. If your car is damaged in an accident and the cost of the repair is over $5000, the insurance company can scrap your car, and pay your the value less the cost of repairs. This will do two things, 1) more COE will be returned to the COE bidding. 2) Drivers will be more cautious. Maybe even defensive in their driving.

Hope the final satellite based r Erp unit won’t be that horrendous design they showed pre Covid…

Running out of roads for cars and running out of land for hdb flats and others

COE prices are way too high. Please bring it down. There are still many families who need to have car for their daily needs. Fetching elderly for regular medical checkups, fetching kids for extra curricular activities, doing groceries in between. And those who need a car for their business / work.

@scbchong6964

Жыл бұрын

Citizen, COE price is bid by singaporeans. Govt do not set the price. All inflation is caused by too much money and too little common sense. Those who cannot afford new car are just jealous and envious of those who work hard, save hard and earned a new car.

@alvinmah6148

Жыл бұрын

@@scbchong6964 coe prices are mostly bidded by car dealers. Not by the car owners themselves. There are families who needed cars because of necessity. Of course there are those own car / cars for their lifestyles.

@torrhthc4103

Жыл бұрын

The pap govt did not ask u to set up a family that need a car here….. they can easily import more people. So stop complaining , u gonna suffer as long as they in pwr. Think of other solutions, u cant rely on them. Higher gst is coming btw…. 😂

@scbchong6964

Жыл бұрын

@@torrhthc4103 Would you qualify for singapore citizenship with your talents, skills and education level? Would your parents? Opposition's rhetoric about "change" is seductive but nothing better has been delivered.

@kenyoung6666

Жыл бұрын

There are so many cars for sale on the secondhand market. You’re complaining because you’re insisting on buying a NEW car. Do your research and ask car enthusiasts (not car sales agents) and you’ll be able to find a good used family car without the current high COE price.

If money is just the issue of car ownership, people will still be owning cars since it is more convenient getting around in a car. To move towards car lite, there must be oncreased frustration and inconvenience for car owners because after all, people biy a car in the first place for convenience. If there is a great level of inconvenience in driving arpund in a car, more people would give upp their car, even the roch will reconsider owning a car

You see when there is still jam in perk hours mean COE is useless.

COE prices will be better regulated if the buyer has to bid for a non transferable COE instead of allowing agents to drive prices up.

@scbchong6964

Жыл бұрын

No, agents do not bid at all until you sign the sales agreement and make a deposit of tens of thousands. btw you can make a reasonable COE bid if you opt for Non-Guaranteed. Sounds like you still in school and not paying any income tax or road tax or property tax yet.

@MLOO123

Жыл бұрын

Yes, let the buyers bid instead for now, and can range from $1.00 - $200k and you gets the COE from highest to lowest value according to the no of COE released, thus those riches pays higher and common folks pays whatever they can afford, or give up and buy resale cars... If everyone still bids $100k, that shows the buyers spoil market liao and hopeless case...😂😂😂

@scbchong6964

Жыл бұрын

@@MLOO123 Have you bought a new car recently? Or did you buy a car during low COE from 2018 till early 2022?

@MLOO123

Жыл бұрын

@@scbchong6964 I bought a 10yr COE car somewhere 2020 when the old car needed to be scrapped...

@scbchong6964

Жыл бұрын

@@MLOO123 So you actually got no recent experience placing a large deposit before the dealer bid for the COE, lah.

Lower COE prices are EVEN MORE counterproductive to going car-lite. ERP2 will increase the unknowns, and cost of using a car, leading to higher cost of transportation per use. And can also be counter-productive to encouraging people to move around. Just stay at home and don't move to save transportation cost. There are tradeoffs to more COE licenses offered, eg Grab-drivers have to charge all commuters with ERP2 - incentizing some people to get a personal-car instead and personally-drive, even though that's not the best use of their time and skills for productivity

Don’t be conned into believing that a car is a luxury. If u feel that a car is more convenient than public transportation, then it no longer is a luxury but a necessity

Can you try taking public transport with two young babies? No car to transport. Just jack up more car number and drive up congestion on roads. With high car prices and jam roads, more will try public transport then.

@scbchong6964

Жыл бұрын

Do you have 2 babies, or you talking BS and repeating rubbish complaints? Did your parents have a car to raise you?

People use their cars to the hilt after spending $150-$200k. Then raise the petrol price, grade 95 $20 per litre. Means a full tank on a Toyota Corolla will cost $1,000. See if Singaporeans dare to drive or own a car or not. 😏

i just wonder how angry those people who already paid 150K to 200K for their cars due to COE sky rocket rates will be when they meet the 2nd part of this nightmare, which is distance based ERP... they will suffer (1) expensive upfront and (2) expensive variable usage, while those who waited until dist based ERP gets implemented only suffer (2).... the gahment better be fair to this grp or election time will be interesting...

Nothing counterproductive regarding COE..Just add more cost to usage..make it unbelievable hard to own and drive car..of course a clear distinction must be made for those who really need one..

@tanalson

9 ай бұрын

It is counterproductive. The more money you pay for the COE, the more you would want to drive the car so that it is more worth it. To make car lite a reality, try removing parking spaces and reducing all dcar lanes by 30%.

Remove 70% of the car parks, increase car park to 50% of the car price. Government keeps building car parks to promote privilege of owning car. HK government did a better job in this aspect than our millionaire ministers.

Wow what is Fariz Jabba doing here

is COE fair? c how many cars owned by those in the $1b money laundering case... these ppl can own x number of cars just becoz they can afford?

The food no need vehicle to fetch one. We use cow huh ? 😂😂😂😂😂

Is the old man an Actor?😅

Why singaporeans like to point finger and blame govt, but forgot their own salaries are high. Singaporeans have spending appetites outsized to their actual talents and work skills. Low innovation and low productivity. Spend beyond your means yet blame the govt. Singaporeans have high salaries, big bonus, fat CPF savings, large HDB housing subsidies and grants, full employment, and don't forget young singaporeans do not need to spend on rent. So much disposable income. You complain, grumble and blame govt but forgot ALL price inflation is caused by too much cash, easy loans/credit and zero common sense.

@engw7090

Жыл бұрын

y u spam

Population high mah😂😂😂😂

People always want and aspire to own a car - - joke. that beautifies enormously the intended failure of national transport policy

Thats nothing wrong to the COE, its designed to increase prices according to demand to maintain car population. Dont fix whats not broken

Does he have a religion?😅

Why singaporeans like to point finger and blame govt, but forgot their own salaries are high. Singaporeans have spending appetites outsized to their actual talents and work skills. Low innovation and low productivity. Spend beyond your means yet blame the govt. Singaporeans have high salaries, big bonus, fat CPF savings, large HDB housing subsidies and grants, full employment, and don't forget young singaporeans do not need to spend on rent. So much disposable income. You complain, grumble and blame govt but forgot ALL price inflation is caused by too much cash, easy loans/credit and zero common sense.

@alvinmah6148

Жыл бұрын

Dont be dumb. Inflation is not always caused by too much cash. 1% increase in gst, hawkers increase their food prices from 30% and some 50%.

@scbchong6964

Жыл бұрын

@@alvinmah6148 Why you so stupidly patronise their stall if their food is lousy and no value? You have the freedom to take your business elsewhere, right? Or why not use the CDC vouchers and buy ingredients from NTUC to make your own meals and be self-reliant? Why keep grumbling, pointing finger and blaming others when you yourself are so dependent on others?

Why singaporeans like to point finger and blame govt, but forgot their own salaries are high. Singaporeans have spending appetites outsized to their actual talents and work skills. Low innovation and low productivity. Spend beyond your means yet blame the govt. Singaporeans have high salaries, big bonus, fat CPF savings, large HDB housing subsidies and grants, full employment, and don't forget young singaporeans do not need to spend on rent. So much disposable income. You complain, grumble and blame govt but forgot ALL price inflation is caused by too much cash, easy loans/credit and zero common sense.