Why France Lost The Battle of Dien Bien Phu 1954 (4K Documentary)

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After the French success in the Battle of Na San, the battle of Dien Bien Phu is supposed to defeat the Viet Minh once and for all. But instead the weeks long siege becomes a symbol of the French defeat in Vietnam.
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Lawrence Atwood, Mark & Logevall, Fredrik (eds.), The First Vietnam War: Colonial Conflict and Cold War Crisis, (Cambridge, MA : Harvard University Press, 2007)
Chen Jian, “China and the First Indo-China War, 1950-54", The China Quarterly, No. 133 (March 1993)
Duiker, William J, “Ho Chi Min and the Strategy of People’s War” in Lawrence, Mark Atwood & Logevall, Fredrik (eds.), The First Vietnam War: Colonial Conflict and Cold War Crisis, (Cambridge, MA : Harvard University Press, 2007)
Fall, Bernard, Hell in a Very Small Place: The Siege of Dien Bien Phu, (New York, N.Y : Da Capo Press, 1985)
Fauroux, Pierre, “Night Jump into Dien Bien Phu: An Eyewitness Account from a French Paratrooper Captured by the Viet Minh”, HistoryNet, (www.historynet.com/night-jump...)
Irving, Ronald E. M. The First Indochina War: French and American Policy 1945-54, (London : Croom Helm, 1975)
Lawrence Atwood, Mark & Logevall, Fredrik (eds.), The First Vietnam War: Colonial Conflict and Cold War Crisis, (Cambridge, MA : Harvard University Press, 2007)
L’Herpiniere, Michel & Perkins, Mandaley, Hanoi, Adieu: A Bittersweet Memoir of a Frenchman in Indochina, (Enfield, N.S.W : Haper Perennial, 2006)
Prados, John, “Assessing Dien Bien Phu” in Lawrence, Mark Atwood & Logevall, Fredrik (eds.), The First Vietnam War: Colonial Conflict and Cold War Crisis, (Cambridge, MA : Harvard University Press, 2007)
Thee, Marek, “The Indochina Wars: Great Power Involvement - Escalation and Disengagement”, Journal of Peace Research, Vol. 13, No. 2 (1976)
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»CREDITS
Presented by: Jesse Alexander
Written by: Mark Newton
Director: Toni Steller & Florian Wittig
Director of Photography: Toni Steller
Sound: Toni Steller
Editing: Philipp Appelt
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Research by: Mark Newton
Fact checking: Jesse Alexander
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  • @realtimehistory
    @realtimehistory7 ай бұрын

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  • @koharumi1

    @koharumi1

    7 ай бұрын

    Please use more Vietnamese sources too. It seems like you only used western sources, which creates a skewered perspective.

  • @canhthep1

    @canhthep1

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@koharumi1Viet Nam sources usually are fake or exaggerated

  • @nickrobl

    @nickrobl

    5 ай бұрын

    Minor issue, LBJ was Senate Minority Leader at the time, not House.

  • @scotttyson7970

    @scotttyson7970

    4 ай бұрын

    Now we have Joe Biden trying to destroy U.SA

  • @user-qz9hc7rg7b

    @user-qz9hc7rg7b

    2 ай бұрын

    oh I thought that's a diet cereal

  • @christerprestberg3973
    @christerprestberg39737 ай бұрын

    Having read several books about the battle, the one thing that always amazes me is the sheer logistics for the vietnamese at the battle, and the insane work put in by the porters.

  • @Conn30Mtenor

    @Conn30Mtenor

    7 ай бұрын

    I recall a story that the Viet Minh were hauling an artillery piece up a steep hill when they lost their grip and the gun started to slide back down. One Viet Minh, rather than have to watch his comrades haul it all the way back up the hill, threw himself under the wheel of the gun to stop it from falling. He was killed, but the gun made it to the top of the hill that day. Dedication.

  • @charlesharper2357

    @charlesharper2357

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Conn30Mtenor As the old folk saying goes "It ain't the size of the dog in the fight...it's the size of the fight in the dog".

  • @tonystack1622

    @tonystack1622

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@Conn30MtenorI remember reading that 30 years ago, do you remember the name of that book?

  • @Pivotcong2000

    @Pivotcong2000

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Conn30Mtenor The guy's name is To Vinh Dien, and he's hailed as a national hero today. Pretty damn heroic what he did I'd say.

  • @generalhorse493

    @generalhorse493

    7 ай бұрын

    they also used elephants to help out, as did their ancestors when fighting the Chinese

  • @lebien4554
    @lebien45547 ай бұрын

    "Don't worry guys, our air force can totally resupply a surrounded garrison". Sounds like someone hasn't been paying attention in class...

  • @VersusARCH

    @VersusARCH

    7 ай бұрын

    Demyansk... Imphal...

  • @markgarrett3647

    @markgarrett3647

    7 ай бұрын

    Go look up Na San.

  • @viethoangtruong54

    @viethoangtruong54

    7 ай бұрын

    Stalingrad flashback lol

  • @rooftopcat1785

    @rooftopcat1785

    7 ай бұрын

    the viets cut that base up piece work, air support against monsoon in the highlands to boot, no viz. The world knew this was it, remain in indo or get expelled. It is suggested that giap was pressured to sacrifice his men,and Pour them off by the thousands, to appease china, Ho and giap were nationalist china did not lik that. the french had thousands killed more than the US.

  • @billyshane3804

    @billyshane3804

    7 ай бұрын

    Where's Hermann Goring when you need him!!

  • @kvnrthr1589
    @kvnrthr15897 ай бұрын

    What's even more impressive is how recently the Vietnamese army was created at this time. 10 years before they were at most a few thousand lightly armed guerillas, but they were able to build a very skilled and motivated force that by 1954 was capable to take on the very best French units. While they did have a lot of outside help in training and equipment, without motivation and skill, all those resources could just be wasted (see the Afghan army the US spent billions of dollars and 20 years to build, collapsing to small bands of Taliban...).

  • @markgarrett3647

    @markgarrett3647

    7 ай бұрын

    That's because they had a lot of help from Communist China and the advisory group that was headed by the brilliant Communist Generals Chen Geng and Fu Zuoyi.

  • @lehoang3532

    @lehoang3532

    7 ай бұрын

    There's a mistake in your line. The Vietnamese army was formed "10 years before", yes, but if you consider the month, it would be closer to 9 and a half year. Furthermore, the "regular" or "main lineage" of the army begins with fewer than 50 people. Yes, fewer than 50. Including 2 women and having fewer than a dozen rifles. Source: I'm a Vietnamese.

  • @kevinduong337

    @kevinduong337

    7 ай бұрын

    It probably helped that the Viet Minh had some Japanese instructors for Quang Ngai Military Academy, and later had Chinese advisors (CMAG) to develop them as an army. Kind of reminds me of von Steuben in the American Revolution. Also in the 1920s, Ho Chi Minh sent revolutionaries to study at the Chinese Whampoa Military Academy, training future officers such as Major General Nguyen Son.

  • @shaider1982

    @shaider1982

    7 ай бұрын

    It's more like the Afghan Army "collapsing into small bands of Taliban".

  • @danielefabbro822

    @danielefabbro822

    7 ай бұрын

    "the best french units" is such pretending statement. French never trained their soldiers to fight in jungles. Only modern Foreign Legion does it because it have to operate in such environments. But the rest of French forces just operate in Africa, mostly in sub-sahara regions and a bit for European battlefields. If you put a french soldier on top of a mountain he will die starving and by hypotermia in just few hours.

  • @oxuanhieu7452
    @oxuanhieu74527 ай бұрын

    "The biggest fear of a true Vietnamese people is the fear of losing country"..remember it

  • @user-qz9hc7rg7b
    @user-qz9hc7rg7b5 ай бұрын

    It's like that fridge commercial back in the day "How do you put an elephant in the fridge? You open the fridge and you stick it in". The Viet Minh was like "How do you put a bunch of artillery pieces on top of hills without trucks? You pull them by hands".

  • @peacefulamerican4994

    @peacefulamerican4994

    Күн бұрын

    Lee and Grant when fighting against Santa Anna during the Mex-Am War.

  • @DuongLeAccountingAutomate

    @DuongLeAccountingAutomate

    17 сағат бұрын

    Nobody cares about the lackluster the Americsn war, and again nobody asks

  • @peacefulamerican4994

    @peacefulamerican4994

    15 сағат бұрын

    @@DuongLeAccountingAutomate except that they used the same tactic.

  • @toaninh9120
    @toaninh91207 ай бұрын

    My grandfather fought in Dien Bien Phu. They sent him China to learn how to drive a truck, and later on he drove soldiers and supplies to the battlefield. He got bombed twice, survived with a piece of shrapnel inside his leg

  • @khanhnguyenquang2808

    @khanhnguyenquang2808

    6 ай бұрын

    thank your grandfather for the sacrifice

  • @mich722

    @mich722

    6 ай бұрын

    @@khanhnguyenquang2808 He had no choice.

  • @thanhhoangnguyen4754

    @thanhhoangnguyen4754

    6 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@mich722 Like everyone else but then again this was because the French didn’t give us any better choice for us.

  • @mich722

    @mich722

    6 ай бұрын

    @@thanhhoangnguyen4754 If the North Viets weren't communist they could have avoided all this and gained recognition from the world, who would have been on their side and sympathetic to them. Their biggest mistake was choosing communism.

  • @WingkKong

    @WingkKong

    6 ай бұрын

    @@mich722 If the North was not communist The North could not organize a powerful army to defeat the french If You did not have a powerful army you really have nothing to Bargain with the French

  • @0202068103
    @0202068103Ай бұрын

    In 1966, Moshe Dayan visited Vietnam as a journalist. He gained, and shared, a lot of insights about the American military adventure being undertaken there. One of his comments was that any soldiers that could move heavy pieces of artillery up and down mountains, without any mechanical help, would be "a formidable enemy."

  • @dr.woozie7500
    @dr.woozie75007 ай бұрын

    My grandfather was a soldier at Dien Bien Phu on the Viet Minh side. He was a very skilled mapper so he was part of a scouting mission tasked to watch French movements from only 200 meters away.

  • @Etzellll

    @Etzellll

    7 ай бұрын

    Glory to your grandfather

  • @jamesringo7070

    @jamesringo7070

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@cjclark1208 it does sound shallow, especially when you consider the US was asked to intervene by S. Vietnam. Nor is it what you would call a democracy then or now.

  • @pudanielson1

    @pudanielson1

    7 ай бұрын

    @@cjclark1208 Well, South Vietnam existed because of what happened after, and many were a part of the Viet Minh before they grew disallusioned with the Communist leadership. What came after Dien Bien Phu was a lot of shooting of landlords and execution of religious figures in North Vietnam, this is why a million fled south.,

  • @pudanielson1

    @pudanielson1

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jamesringo7070 Vietnam is free, it is also not a democratic state. Barack Obama visited many human rights activists in Vietnam on his trip, most of them are now jailed or exiled.

  • @quangminhnguyen2504

    @quangminhnguyen2504

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@pudanielson1What can you justified for landlord's brutality for centuries, which exist during the Vietnamese dynasty, long before France finds Indochina. And South VN was never free at all (Diem's family control much of the government system, those opposed was purged out, with Communists & suspected Communisted beheaded in French revolution Terror style), and ask for help? Yeah right, US had long since try to turn VN into another Korea as soon as Geneva was signed, so with or without South's request, they would come anyway. BTW, human rights activists just called lies against us, they just wanted stupid chaos like at Middle East, where everyday is a war day. Oh and about religion? How about i talk about Diem's anti-Buddhism policies ok? Favor many Roman Catholic, Christian & Protestan. Shooting protested Buddhist monks at Hue in summer 63. Yeah, how is that freedom? Stop justify U.S. actions on us ok? We only wanted independence, not communism ok? Thanks a lot, Truman, for pushing our leader Ho Chi Minh into a corner where the only escape trapdoor named "Communism" is available, seal our fate in history forever.

  • @phungquyen3511
    @phungquyen35116 ай бұрын

    0:17 The French wanted a final decisive battle in Dien Bien Phu, they got exactly that. The battle was final and decisive, just not in the French's favor.

  • @manilajohn0182

    @manilajohn0182

    5 ай бұрын

    The Vietnamese were greatly underestimated- by both France and the United States. We both lost as a result.

  • @bunkerkorpf1440

    @bunkerkorpf1440

    4 ай бұрын

    The battle wasn't a strategic defeat actually. France could have continued the war for years. Remember, France didn't send any reservist in Indochina, only a part of its professionnal army. "Luckily", it was still a complete tactical and political defeat, and France finally found someone courageous enough to stop the colonialist bs here (4th republic was pretty instable).

  • @pedalevaaaa4172

    @pedalevaaaa4172

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@manilajohn0182Le gouvernement Français peut-être mais pas les hommes dans la verte

  • @everburn

    @everburn

    2 ай бұрын

    Because French military efforts were being bankrolled by the us.​@@bunkerkorpf1440

  • @kensvay4561

    @kensvay4561

    Ай бұрын

    The propaganda that this was communism is bollocks. The Viets wanted their country back.

  • @TheGQBrotha
    @TheGQBrotha7 ай бұрын

    I always admire the sheer resilience of the Vietnamese to fight for their independence time and time again against larger, powerful foes in its history.

  • @michaelmcgovern8110

    @michaelmcgovern8110

    7 ай бұрын

    "People would rather be misruled by their own than well ruled by others." - Byron Farwell

  • @joshuafrimpong244

    @joshuafrimpong244

    7 ай бұрын

    @@michaelmcgovern8110 Sums up every country well

  • @charlesharper2357

    @charlesharper2357

    7 ай бұрын

    It would make a lot more sense having them as allies than enemies...

  • @michaelmcgovern8110

    @michaelmcgovern8110

    7 ай бұрын

    @@charlesharper2357 Read history: not so easy.

  • @boadebate4320

    @boadebate4320

    7 ай бұрын

    @@michaelmcgovern8110Vietnam was not well ruled under France.

  • @HubertBidault
    @HubertBidault2 ай бұрын

    BRILLIANT commentary ! As a 6 years old French child in 1954 I have heard the name so many times . First time I reallly understand what was going on at the geopolitical level

  • @alaincy3395

    @alaincy3395

    17 күн бұрын

    Điều đó có nghĩa là bạn đang hướng tới sinh nhật lần thứ 76 của bạn

  • @kissboss2005
    @kissboss20057 ай бұрын

    My grandfather brother was taken by force from Algeria to Vietnam, he survived this battle and when returned to Algeria, the revolution has already started there, so he immediately joined it and was killed by napalm in 1958

  • @nicholasgutierrez9940

    @nicholasgutierrez9940

    7 ай бұрын

    F

  • @ahmedakhan1

    @ahmedakhan1

    7 ай бұрын

    Respect to your grandfather's brother! A hero of Algeria!

  • @Deadassbruhfrfr

    @Deadassbruhfrfr

    7 ай бұрын

    Rest is peace. He's definitely a hero.

  • @ForeskinWillis

    @ForeskinWillis

    7 ай бұрын

    deserved

  • @Trgn

    @Trgn

    7 ай бұрын

    As Viet, respect to him for fighting for Algerian independence.

  • @namelesscurmudgeon9794
    @namelesscurmudgeon97945 ай бұрын

    When the Australian Army trained me as an officer (early 1980s) we studied several battles that were examples of what to not do. This battle was one of them.

  • @pacmanmcgavin7034

    @pacmanmcgavin7034

    3 ай бұрын

    Like the Australian army is capable of anything...

  • @namelesscurmudgeon9794

    @namelesscurmudgeon9794

    3 ай бұрын

    @@pacmanmcgavin7034 You need to read some history. Apparently, you know nothing of value.

  • @pacmanmcgavin7034

    @pacmanmcgavin7034

    3 ай бұрын

    I'm ex-Australian and British army... I've lived more military history than you'll ever know. Anything else? @@namelesscurmudgeon9794

  • @JeremySayers38

    @JeremySayers38

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes me too, Dien Ben Paul was a textbook example of failure of defence. Losing the key ground not the main ground.

  • @nobodynothing00000

    @nobodynothing00000

    2 ай бұрын

    @@namelesscurmudgeon9794 then explain Gallipoli, you brilliant soldier of a man, you

  • @khiemnguyentrong1677
    @khiemnguyentrong1677Ай бұрын

    In the lyrics of the song “ Singing Marching Songs Forever” there‘s a line: Even though my life likes roses. Our enemies force us to hold our guns.

  • @ManhIMT6789

    @ManhIMT6789

    3 күн бұрын

    Quyết tử cho Tổ Quốc quyết sinh.❤❤

  • @MinhVo-ig7no
    @MinhVo-ig7no7 ай бұрын

    Navarre wrote a letter to General Võ Nguyên Giáp challenging him to attack Dien Bien Phu since he is so confident that this fortress is impossible to conquer. As we all know, General Giáp accepted the challenge, and the rest is history.

  • @didierdenice7456

    @didierdenice7456

    7 ай бұрын

    Never heard about this. Any source or link, please ?

  • @MinhVo-ig7no

    @MinhVo-ig7no

    7 ай бұрын

    @@didierdenice7456 the letter is written in Vietnamese. And my mistake. It was De Castries who wrote the invitation, not Navarre.

  • @brunol-p_g8800

    @brunol-p_g8800

    7 ай бұрын

    @@MinhVo-ig7no even if it is in Vietnamese, any link?

  • @phamkhacdong2050

    @phamkhacdong2050

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@brunol-p_g8800Pháp đã rải truyền đơn bằng máy bay khắp các tỉnh phía bắc của Việt Nam và có hình ảnh trong link.

  • @ucnguyenanh9414

    @ucnguyenanh9414

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@didierdenice7456Pamphlets via aircrafts.

  • @josepetersen7112
    @josepetersen71127 ай бұрын

    You guys do great work!

  • @user-qh9hq2fc9p
    @user-qh9hq2fc9p7 ай бұрын

    Perhaps the best documentary about the battle of Dien Bien Phu. Excellent work!

  • @enoughoftherough3995
    @enoughoftherough39956 ай бұрын

    Thank you man truly, I appreciate all you do.

  • @SirWilliamKidney
    @SirWilliamKidney7 ай бұрын

    I was crossing my fingers for this video after the last one left on something of a cliffhanger... awesome job as always RTH!

  • @realtimehistory

    @realtimehistory

    7 ай бұрын

    and next one is already next week

  • @bond0815
    @bond08157 ай бұрын

    Great video, as always.

  • @tokencivilian8507
    @tokencivilian85077 ай бұрын

    Another great vid RTH. And great outtro, as always.

  • @alexandredevert4935
    @alexandredevert49352 ай бұрын

    The North Vietnam mountains are quite something. Not very tall, but very steep, lots of mud and sharp rocks, thick jungle, incredible humidity and harsh heat for 8 months. It's plenty of small valleys and serpentine paths, the dream terrain for ambushes. If you can't hold the frontier to stop influx of supplies, you can't hold it. Holding the frontier would be a huge resource sink. It was unwinnable.

  • @richdouglas2311
    @richdouglas231120 күн бұрын

    This was superb. I read Stanley Karnow's book on Vietnam, but STILL learned things from this video. Bravo!

  • @user-li6es1so1k
    @user-li6es1so1k5 ай бұрын

    There was a joint French/Vietnamese film production on the battle called "Diet Bien Phu." The film was released in the early-1990s with dialogue in both French and Vietnamese. IIRC the film was fairly well received. The film was eventually released on either DVD or Blu-Ray, but not in the US AFAIK. I managed to catch the film in a theater while in Hong Kong, where it was subtitled in both Chinese and English. (This was back when HK was still a British territory.). It's worth seeing if you can track it down.

  • @saifulsidek2724

    @saifulsidek2724

    5 ай бұрын

    That film 90% accurate based on who fighting at both sides at this tien bien phu battles,worth to watching this film....not like us film,just them win at every battles...

  • @marcbuisson2463

    @marcbuisson2463

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@saifulsidek2724Schoendoerffer, the film director, was a veteran of the battle, and at the time a cameraman for the french army.

  • @saifulsidek2724

    @saifulsidek2724

    5 ай бұрын

    @@marcbuisson2463 oh yeah? No wonder that film so accurate,he is recording what really happen that day i guess...

  • @kolerick

    @kolerick

    7 күн бұрын

    there is a live torrent for it on yts

  • @bluecheese20401
    @bluecheese204016 ай бұрын

    The bravery of the guys that jumped into a lost battle is spectacular. If you read detailed stories, it's nuts.

  • @user-xq6se9uc1g

    @user-xq6se9uc1g

    5 ай бұрын

    The British had already defeated the Vietnamese in 1945 for the loss of 40 troops.

  • @tuanz8009

    @tuanz8009

    5 ай бұрын

    @@user-xq6se9uc1g that was their fight im Malaya. Lol.

  • @Pyjamarama11

    @Pyjamarama11

    5 ай бұрын

    I don't think they had a choice It's called following orders or face a Court Martial

  • @richardgreen7811

    @richardgreen7811

    5 ай бұрын

    In 1969 I was flown (helicopter) West of An Khe toward Pleiku on Route 19. A bit over 1/2 way, I was directed to look down at an area known as Mang Yang Pass on the North side of the highway. I don't know why, but it hit me very emotionally. On the ground were 1,200 (+/-) white cylinders on the ground. In 1954, the Viet Minh (NVA) ambushed French soldiers there and massacred every man. The French sued for a cease-fire in order to bury their dead, which was granted. They brought in farm tractors with 36" augers on the back. For every French soldier, a hole was drilled in the dirt around 4' deep, and each body was lowered into the hole (facing France) which was then filled with lime. I'll wager that even today, that area still looks like a bee honeycomb.

  • @TheMourot

    @TheMourot

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Pyjamarama11 At this point in the battle, there were mostly volunteers: bread for the ducks!

  • @Maxxim218
    @Maxxim21815 күн бұрын

    I served in the Legion, my brothers died here, I still am in awe of their sacrifice

  • @TungPham-vp6py
    @TungPham-vp6py4 ай бұрын

    The magical of this battle is how Vietnam force can transport the artillery and heavy equipment to that place in an unimaginable amount of time. As you can see on the map, Điện Biên Phủ is a valley is surrounded and full covered by very high mountain. The French destroy all the road connect to the place and air supply is the only way left to support the place. In the French's plan, they prepared for the attack by infantry, they will continues developing the base while defending it. They believed that they could build a really powerful stronghold by the time Vietnam force can rebuild the road that they destroyed before they jump in. But they were shocked by artillery attack at beginning of battle. Vietnam force did not repair any damaged road they created a new way to transport all equipment under the trees, through the forest and up to the top of mountains by man power only. The French air support did not observed any activity to rebuild the damaged road so The French believed Vietnam force can not come to attack them soon and by heavy gun power.

  • @blabberer8950

    @blabberer8950

    3 ай бұрын

    Are you Vietnamese? Did you have any family who fought with or against the French? Those were some of the best light infantry soldiers in the world at the time that they defeated.

  • @TungPham-vp6py

    @TungPham-vp6py

    3 ай бұрын

    @@blabberer8950 Yes, I am Vietnamese and my grand father was the Vietnam's infantry in this battle in 1954.

  • @blabberer8950

    @blabberer8950

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TungPham-vp6py That is a brave man. Did he survive both the French and Americans?

  • @TungPham-vp6py

    @TungPham-vp6py

    3 ай бұрын

    @@blabberer8950 Yes, he survived Dien Bien Phu battle but got injury. Then he had been transferred to supporting department during the period time of conflict with American.

  • @blabberer8950

    @blabberer8950

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TungPham-vp6py My dad was with the 101st and fought in the A'Shau Valley among other places. Has mad respect for the NVA Warriors.

  • @paulhomsy2751
    @paulhomsy2751Ай бұрын

    Excellent narration. A luxury of exact details in proper sequence. Outstanding delivery of information. Thank you. One small correction @ 15.51 VO NGUYEN GAP; the principal not the "principle" trait of that phase. Principal as in main.

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge20857 ай бұрын

    Incredible, I always learn something.

  • @FromPovertyToProgress
    @FromPovertyToProgress6 ай бұрын

    The French military seriously underestimated the amount of artillery, AA guns and logistical support that Communist China was willing to give to the Viet Minh. One point that the video missed is the original Viet Minh strategy was to immediately storm the French position as soon as the 3 divisions arrived. Giáp realized that this was foolish and changed the strategy to a long slow siege once the artillery could be fully emplaced. If they had proceeded forward with their original plan, it likely would have been a decisive French victory with huge Viet Minh casualties. This would have cause the Geneva agreement to come out very different.

  • @longduong1590

    @longduong1590

    6 ай бұрын

    that plan was suggested by Chinese, They tried to ruin Vietnamese force as much as possible because they always think weak Vietnam is better Vietnam.

  • @FromPovertyToProgress

    @FromPovertyToProgress

    6 ай бұрын

    @@longduong1590 If China was trying to weaken Viet Minh, then why did they give so much arms and training to them in the first place? Plus the attack on Diem Bien Phu was China’s idea in the first place. No, I think it was just a bad (or at least very risky) military strategy.

  • @longduong1590

    @longduong1590

    6 ай бұрын

    @@FromPovertyToProgress China supported Vietnam because they needed Vietnam to win. What China actually want was that Vietnam won the war but suffered heavy casualty and became more dependent on China in the future, like how America put military bases in Japan and South Korea.

  • @FromPovertyToProgress

    @FromPovertyToProgress

    6 ай бұрын

    @@longduong1590 What China wanted was a Communist Vietnam (and Laos and Cambodia).

  • @kylint7683

    @kylint7683

    6 ай бұрын

    @@longduong1590 True, Vietnam should stay being a French colony🤣

  • @eliech7112
    @eliech71127 ай бұрын

    Great work as usual thank you

  • @Cheka__

    @Cheka__

    7 ай бұрын

    You're welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones43217 ай бұрын

    Keep up the great work

  • @antoniocarrascosa6060
    @antoniocarrascosa60607 ай бұрын

    Extraordinario documental. Enhorabuena

  • @alpascalp
    @alpascalp7 ай бұрын

    It must be said, that the French didn’t just let the Viet Minh take over the hills around DBP. The concept of having an aeromobile base was to be an anchor for attack patrols in the area, however in time, skirmishes and gunfights got worse, reducing the ability of the garrison to leave their perimeter. Even at that point, the French thought of leaving DBP, but American pressure demanded them to gain a victory like Na San.

  • @e63nokia57

    @e63nokia57

    7 ай бұрын

    🤣

  • @joangratzer2101

    @joangratzer2101

    7 ай бұрын

    ALSO DIDN'T HELP THET THEIR BASE WAS SITUATED IN A LOW LYING AREA SURROUNDED BY A RING OF VIET MIHN ARTILLERY.

  • @scottkrater2131

    @scottkrater2131

    7 ай бұрын

    You'd think the French commanders at Dien Bien Phu would have mentioned that in the after war interviews. They did not.

  • @mortenfrosthansen84

    @mortenfrosthansen84

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah.. it wasn't actually us fighting, it was the US. In fact, Pablo Escobar also said that. And also the Pope, when asked about child molestation.. it was all the US

  • @alpascalp

    @alpascalp

    7 ай бұрын

    No no, this is not the old “blame the US for all our woes”. Indochina had become by that stage a political issue. Ike didn’t want anything to do with an ugly colonial war, but hardliners in both Congress and Senate wanted to fight the commies, and pushed the idea of continue fighting. I understand that for sake of time, the political and diplomatic issue related to Indochina was cut, but before DBP there was a lot of back and forth between Paris and Washington concerning how war should be waged. For example, just the building of the aeromobile base in DBP was a propaganda coup, by having VIP’s from France and the US visiting the base.

  • @NellaCuriosity
    @NellaCuriosity7 ай бұрын

    Another great documentary!

  • @frankmiller95
    @frankmiller955 ай бұрын

    Nice work. Very well done.

  • @stavrosk.2868
    @stavrosk.28687 ай бұрын

    The French, Chinese, Americans lost. The Vietnamese are fantastic warriors. It is what it is.

  • @beautychill1130

    @beautychill1130

    6 ай бұрын

    plus the Mongol Empire of Genghis Khan

  • @thuankhong

    @thuankhong

    5 ай бұрын

    Vietnam's history is a history of wars for thousands of years

  • @BH02377

    @BH02377

    2 ай бұрын

    The U.S. didn’t lose. They didn’t win either and by the time they decided to leave it took the Vietnamese 3 years to take the south.

  • @kennylast2565

    @kennylast2565

    2 ай бұрын

    @@BH02377 Vietnamese achieved it's objective at the end. U.S did not achieved it's objective at the end. What part of lose do you not understand?

  • @TheBucketSkill

    @TheBucketSkill

    Ай бұрын

    @@kennylast2565 Americans killed so many of them they never felt like they lost, but it did feel like they won in the end.

  • @xenhacmusic
    @xenhacmusic5 ай бұрын

    🇻🇳I am Vietnamese Our people are learning history at school since childhood. American war. France. China 1979 We don't care who our opponents are. Only when the enemy comes to your house to fight you. Americans and French people can go to Mars, but when we go to Vietnam, we are not sure we can return I am the child of a wounded veteran and a gold star military nurse 

  • @RSF-DiscoveryTime

    @RSF-DiscoveryTime

    5 ай бұрын

    I am an American of 63yrs and to this day I am amazed at Gen. Giap dragging 100 cannons up mountains at Dien Bien Phu. The French forces did not even BOTHER to send patrols out. You never do that in such a situation. The French died as Invaders, and sadly most of my American countrymen did too, but they were forced to serve (draft) or lied to by U.S. politicians like LBJ.

  • @xenhacmusic

    @xenhacmusic

    4 ай бұрын

    Tôi người việt nam. 🇻🇳Nếu Người mỹ bị xâm lược thì cũng như chúng tôi sinh ra nhiều anh hùng. Bít địch biết ta trăm trận trăm thắng. Chiến tranh thắng vì lòng dân tộc. Giá đình họ. Việt Nam không thích chiến tranh. Chúng tôi yêu hoà bình. Tù binh phí công mỹ. Ở trong tù được trợ cấp ăn hơn cả bộ đội việt Nam. Vì chúng tôi muốn đàm phán không muốn chiến tranh. Hãy ngừng bắn.

  • @riccarrasquilla379
    @riccarrasquilla3795 ай бұрын

    thanks for the video

  • @NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek
    @NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek7 ай бұрын

    Excellent and Outstanding!!!

  • @DangTheNguyen
    @DangTheNguyen15 күн бұрын

    My grandfather fought in Dien Bien Phu for Viet Minh, he still has a bullet in his back till he died in 2016, he told me stories about battles manh times and always inspired me

  • @namanhnguyenhoang2695

    @namanhnguyenhoang2695

    10 күн бұрын

    woah , ông của anh bạn cũng phải lớn tuổi phết

  • @siljeff2708
    @siljeff27087 ай бұрын

    So many youtubers covering France vs Vietnam lately, definitely an anniversary afoot

  • @diegoragot655

    @diegoragot655

    7 ай бұрын

    Can you please mention a few?

  • @havu-oj4qh

    @havu-oj4qh

    7 ай бұрын

    There are no anniversary dates with France recently

  • @generalhorse493

    @generalhorse493

    7 ай бұрын

    Growing up us American kids aren't taught to connect the dots when it comes to history. We of course learned the story of the Vietnam war through Forrest Gump and such, but we didn't learn about the road that led us there.

  • @toangomo

    @toangomo

    7 ай бұрын

    a well-research Documentary except A few things need to be corrected. - He only use Western history sources while ignoring Vietnamese sources. This creates some misinformation on the tactical level from the Vietnamese perspective. This includes how story are told. The French appeared more humane than their Communist Viet Minh counterpart. - About cassuaties of both sides: He again used all western source with exactly number of French cassuatíe vs a estimate number: "Viet Minh Casuaties may be high as 30.000". So after nearly 70 years of that battle. It's still so hard to find out the cassuaties number of Viet Minh? They reported 4.020 dead, 792 missing, 9.118 wounded. - Je quoted a Chinese general about unlimited artillery shells from China. But he ignore the fact that Viet Minh only had 10 000 shells and later capture more than 10 000 while fighting in Dien Bien Phu from the French. They fired around 17000 shells in the battle, while the French fired more than 110 000. It's 6 to 1 advantage for French artillery. The Viet Minh lack of shells that if a division want to fire more than 5 shells, they must be approved by Giap himself. With a Chinese general quote you mentioned, it's very easy for the audiences think that the Viet Minh had unlimited supply while French were at shortage.

  • @pointofinterest9084

    @pointofinterest9084

    7 ай бұрын

    @@toangomo only one thing to consider: every single estimate that came from Viet Minh and Viet Cong as well as their opponents were between the exaggerration and outright lie, which is proven by the claims of both sides during Vietnam War, so ultra-skeptical neutral estimates are often used. To know the truth - you'll have to dig up entire cluster of mountains and count. Before that we take skeptical guess.

  • @judas2891
    @judas28917 ай бұрын

    The French and US gravely underestimated the iron resolve of the Vietnamese leadership and it's people.

  • @khabbad

    @khabbad

    7 ай бұрын

    The Americans never bothered to invade the North, they were never looking for a quick victory or any victory the military industrial complex wanted is continuous at the cost of 56 thousand American lives and over a million Vietnamese. Sad

  • @jochenheiden
    @jochenheiden7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for saving the ad for the end of the video. I watched it out of appreciation.

  • @joachimgoethe7864
    @joachimgoethe78647 ай бұрын

    Viet Minh artillery was placed on the far side of the mountains, firing over the peaks into the valley. Spotters at the top adjusted that fire. No surprise French counter batteries were ineffective.

  • @g.t.richardson6311

    @g.t.richardson6311

    6 ай бұрын

    Actually many were on the face , they dug in and only the tube stuck out, zeroed in designated targets , near Elaine they dug thru and had tunnels with automatic weapons and recoiless rifles , the French called those hills old baldy and phony mountain

  • @dungduc4047

    @dungduc4047

    6 ай бұрын

    Nhưng bạn có biết cách nào mà người Việt Nam chúng tôi đưa được những khẩu pháo nặng hàng trục tấn lên các đỉnh núi cao vậy không? Trong khi kéo pháo lên đồi thì máy bay Pháp luôn lượn lờ tìm kiếm và thả bom, những cơn mưa làm cho dốc đồi thêm trơn trượt nhưng ý trí không mệt mỏi và sự sáng tạo đã đem đên thành công như vậy.😊

  • @MrLemonbaby
    @MrLemonbaby7 ай бұрын

    Outstanding. It was very accurate and I particularly liked the direct quotes. Very, very well done.

  • @MysticChronicles712
    @MysticChronicles712Ай бұрын

    My deepest gratitude for everything that you do.

  • @sitrakaforler8696
    @sitrakaforler86967 ай бұрын

    OMG what a great video !!!

  • @seandobson499
    @seandobson4995 ай бұрын

    This was a great documentary and covered The Battle of Dien Bien Phu in greater detail than most other longer documentaries and was well illustrated and narrated.

  • @josephkrupp7430
    @josephkrupp74305 ай бұрын

    As an American Vietnam vet I understand the determination of the Vietnamese people. The things I learnd were they just want to catch their fish, grow their rice (many other things also) and be thier independent people.

  • @fortpark-wd9sx

    @fortpark-wd9sx

    5 ай бұрын

    Agree. For them, national sovereignty was the priority. After the 1990s, they may be wary of China but they will not allow themselves to be used as a battering ram against China by the neo-cons. The neo-cons and some grandkids of Saigon exiles just do not get it. They are still talking about some US-Vietnam alliance against China,

  • @marcbuisson2463

    @marcbuisson2463

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@fortpark-wd9sxit's quite funny and a bit ironic that the future of the vietnamese-american relationship will be decided by how the communist vietnamese government feels threatened by China. We can probably even say that it will be the chinese policies who will make a vietnamese-american alliance a reality or a dream. Not sure if the control of the south China Sea is worth it for China in these conditions, but hey. We're not chinese policy-makers.

  • @minhphamzz7746

    @minhphamzz7746

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@fortpark-wd9sxbạn nói thế thì lũ vong nô Sài Gòn buồn lắm

  • @phambadien650

    @phambadien650

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@fortpark-wd9sxHow do you know so well? . In early 2023, the neo-weak group incited terrorist groups to kill many civilians in the Central Highlands of VN

  • @ennui9745

    @ennui9745

    2 ай бұрын

    @@fortpark-wd9sx Whether there will be a US-Vietnam alliance against China is Vietnam's decision to make, not yours. The fact that most Vietnamese feel friendlier towards the Americans today than towards the Chinese should tell you something. The Americans were at war with Vietnam once for a decade, the Chinese have tried to invade and subjugate Vietnam repeatedly, and once did it for a thousand years before getting kicked out. Bit of a difference there. But you sound suspicious anyway, probably a Chinese propagandist trying to spin things.

  • @user-nz8hj2vs9c
    @user-nz8hj2vs9c6 ай бұрын

    Great footage

  • @billyjackson2605
    @billyjackson26057 ай бұрын

    Great topic

  • @vietnamese80
    @vietnamese807 ай бұрын

    Our culture originates from wet rice. To be effective, we work together, thereby creating solidarity, love and help for each other. Currently, foreign friends coming to Vietnam to travel are facing difficulties, we still maintain the tradition of helping each other. Depending on the crops and products, we are born with customs and traditions. From customs and traditions we form behaviors to preserve agricultural achievements and land, then form villages and communes. linking the villages together. others create a society of solidarity. Therefore, it is impossible to defeat Vietnam by force, unless the Vietnamese people become extinct. That is the past. From now until the future, we will maintain our independence by promoting the spirit of world solidarity. world, taking common prosperity as the foundation

  • @mich722

    @mich722

    6 ай бұрын

    And Vietnam continued to lose millions more and is still poor and not free.

  • @vietnamese80

    @vietnamese80

    6 ай бұрын

    @@mich722 thân mến. Nếu bạn sống ở Việt Nam vào những năm 75-89 mà đòi tự do cá nhân lúc ấy, tôi cam đoan hiện nay không còn người Việt Nam rồi mà thay vào đó là Polpot. Chúng tôi đi theo đường lối tự do cá nhân phù hợp lợi ích tập thể, nếu bạn nghĩ như thế là mất tự do là quyền của bạn

  • @mich722

    @mich722

    6 ай бұрын

    @@vietnamese80 speak English or don't speak, I'm not translating that.

  • @vietnamese80

    @vietnamese80

    6 ай бұрын

    @@mich722🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @phonglekhoi

    @phonglekhoi

    6 ай бұрын

    Vietglish at its finest

  • @tnminhkhoi1398
    @tnminhkhoi13983 ай бұрын

    My great grandpa was positioned in an AA division in the battle. Years before he was a chef in a French restaurant in Hai Phong but was kicked for making bad steaks 😂. Furious, he joined the Viet Minh and worked in an intelligence unit in Hai Phong and was tortured by pouring fermented shrimp paste into his nose. Throughout the Vietnam War he not only fought the French and Americans but also became a renowed chef of many divisions. He became a general after the war but still keeps great passion for culinary and passing it to my grandma and my mom. Of course, he also made a lot of steak dishes for my grandma and mom as a revenge for being kicked out 😂.

  • @vutruong7761

    @vutruong7761

    3 ай бұрын

    My great grandpa, a native of Hai Phong also served the Viet Minh in their early day. But he wasn't lucky like your, he never came back, we don't even know his face. Because back then taking a photo was expensive, and because as an anti-colonial gov revolutionary, he not supposed to leaving any trait behind .

  • @tnminhkhoi1398

    @tnminhkhoi1398

    3 ай бұрын

    @@vutruong7761 respect

  • @pimpompoom93726

    @pimpompoom93726

    3 ай бұрын

    I'm a yank who served in Indochina and I have respect for both your Great Grandpas. That war never should have happened-like many wars.

  • @kensvay4561

    @kensvay4561

    Ай бұрын

    Love these stories. The French were invaders and imperialists who exploited the people and the resources. Cruel and vicious they were hated by the people just like the Dutch in Indonesia and the British in India and Burma. Great to see honest history and the descendants of freedom fighters telling us stories.

  • @julio5prado
    @julio5prado7 ай бұрын

    Excellent video in this excellent channel

  • @Nguyen181
    @Nguyen1817 ай бұрын

    We pulled the artillery up the hill with human strength. The French could not imagine that they could be overwhelmed by artillery

  • @eelchiong6709

    @eelchiong6709

    7 ай бұрын

    They could imagine being overwhelmed by artillery. What they did not expect was you moving artillery over dense mountains and jungles.

  • @kensvay4561

    @kensvay4561

    Ай бұрын

    Great to see comments from Vietnamese here. The best thing about these histories is that we are now friends and not enemies. France and America learned tough lessons in SE Asia. The old commies under the bed thing was bullshit. Profits from endless war was the priority.

  • @ManhIMT6789

    @ManhIMT6789

    3 күн бұрын

    @@eelchiong6709họ đã quá chủ quan

  • @minsapint8007
    @minsapint80077 ай бұрын

    It is fantastic that, after decades of fighting against the Japanese, French and American imperialists, the Vietnamese finally managed to liberate their country.

  • @meranzo8665

    @meranzo8665

    7 ай бұрын

    Don’t forget they fought Chinese and Cambodians too

  • @DK-gy7ll

    @DK-gy7ll

    7 ай бұрын

    Note the horrific number of casualties on the communist Vietnamese side. Despite that they refused to give up fighting for an independent nation. Ho Chi Minh once told the USA, "you will never defeat us, because to do so you'd have to kill every single one of us". His words came true, for despite inflicting a 10 to 1 kill ratio the USA was unable to kill enough Vietnamese to make them give up. THAT is determination.

  • @havu-oj4qh

    @havu-oj4qh

    7 ай бұрын

    @@DK-gy7ll Vietnamese people consider sacrifice for the country to be glorious

  • @Skanzool

    @Skanzool

    7 ай бұрын

    Actually they didn't. Only the northern part. It would take until 1975 before they expelled the Americans.

  • @smithjohn7855

    @smithjohn7855

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@DK-gy7llActually the kill ratio wasn't 10:1 but 2:1-3:1. People always ignore ARVN casualties which were 400,000 death and 1 million wounded. So ~450,000 death on the US/ARVN side vs 1 million dead on the VC/NVA side.

  • @benketengu
    @benketengu5 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much I was surprised there a few things I had not known.

  • @maxheadrom3088
    @maxheadrom3088Ай бұрын

    Wonderful to have found out this series! You people do an excellent work! I still consider the PBS series "Vietnam: A Television Series" to be the best but I'll surely learn a lot watchin this series.

  • @edl617
    @edl6175 ай бұрын

    Some historians believe If FDR had lived until 1948, the French would have been persuaded to let Vietnam become an independent nation. Ho Chi Min had established a constitution based but not similar to America constitution.

  • @glennhecker4422

    @glennhecker4422

    5 ай бұрын

    I found out only very recently that Ho Chi Minh approached the US first (1944-1946) but was rebuffed... Only thereafter did he look to the USSR and China. I can only imagine how much more positive the outcome would have been if the US had indeed helped the Vietnamese then...

  • @haraffael7821

    @haraffael7821

    19 күн бұрын

    ​@glennhecker4422 It wouldnt have changed much, since their sympathy to Socialism was already there. Also the concept of working together wasnt new to them, they had a system for health care and welfare before the French arrived and destroyed it.

  • @anchorpoint5871
    @anchorpoint58717 ай бұрын

    In a nutshell...because a french general never imagined the Vietnamese could carry heavy artillery in the mountains..once the airstrip was in range it was over for the frenchs..

  • @danielho8052

    @danielho8052

    6 ай бұрын

    How ' s about Gen Tran Canh and Gen La Quy Ba role in Dien Bien Phu battle

  • @wynfordemanuel4792
    @wynfordemanuel47922 ай бұрын

    Superb, highly professional and objective documentary.

  • @epicazeroth
    @epicazeroth7 ай бұрын

    FINALLY IT'S HERE

  • @mfulan7548
    @mfulan75487 ай бұрын

    In one book that i read, there was photo of M19 (40mm SPAA with chaffee chassis) possibly there.

  • @g.t.richardson6311

    @g.t.richardson6311

    7 ай бұрын

    Never heard that They did have 4 quad .50s, mounted on us m3 half tracks

  • @nguyentrunghieu3597
    @nguyentrunghieu35977 ай бұрын

    Well researched video. Especially the part when China made Vietnam to accept the conception of dividing the country. This and the same thing happened at the end of Vietnam war (didn't works this time) is a source of resentment of Vietnamese to this day.

  • @brunol-p_g8800

    @brunol-p_g8800

    7 ай бұрын

    @Crying-Croc USA trying to keep Europe United? Interesting, I’d like to know where you got that idea. To start Europe is a continent, not a country, the USA have some leverage on some eastern countries but that’s all, every country has its own path and none is marked by the USA. But some states do have to comply to US leverage more than others. Finally if the USA wanted to « keep Europe United » (to start Europe is not United), then it wouldn’t be such an ally to Turkey and back it in such ways, nor would the USA treat European countries the way they do. We might have some common interests, be « allies », but we’re far from being friends with or liking the USA.

  • @WingkKong

    @WingkKong

    6 ай бұрын

    @@brunol-p_g8800 When the American Empire began It really want to help European But now america is declining It need to sacrifice its allies in order to keep its Empire That is why we have the Ukraine War

  • @welcometonebalia
    @welcometonebalia7 ай бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @charleshays5407
    @charleshays540716 күн бұрын

    Hal Moore, the U.S. commander who led the troops at the battle of Ia Drang Valley, and was played by Mel Gibson in We Were Soldiers, studied this battle constantly.

  • @emitindustries8304
    @emitindustries83047 ай бұрын

    What really pissed off the Vietnamese was the French letting the Japanese soldiers stick around to keep them in control, just after the war was over. That was because the French were busy getting their country back in shape and didn't have the resources to keep Vietnam under control. That was a serious slap in the face.

  • @jamesemis7376

    @jamesemis7376

    7 ай бұрын

    But many japanese soldier also joined the veit cong and become their advisor right?

  • @alskjlskaj

    @alskjlskaj

    7 ай бұрын

    More so the raping and pillaging French soldiers committed when they regained control. Japanese troops (POW's) were there because of the British but this was mainly to retake control. They started to switch after the British left for their affairs in Asia. France really fucked up in Vietnam.

  • @sonogamirinne7172

    @sonogamirinne7172

    7 ай бұрын

    And many japan soilder chose to stay and fight together with vietminh , irony

  • @pimpompoom93726
    @pimpompoom937264 ай бұрын

    The French people did not support an overseas war whose main objective was to protect wealthy French landowners in Indochina.

  • @acg1970
    @acg19706 ай бұрын

    Muy buen documental. Enhorabuena...quizás mejorables los gráficos ,para mayor detalle de los movimientos de las tropas

  • @realtimehistory

    @realtimehistory

    6 ай бұрын

    gracias!

  • @paulkirkland3263
    @paulkirkland32635 ай бұрын

    A great summary of Dien Bien Phu. The French war in Indochina fascinates me, and I've bought just about every English language book I can find. An interesting fact - you mention the Chinese equipped Giap with American artillery captured in Korea. The French garrison was using the same type of gun, so as the perimeter shrank, much of the air-dropped resupply fell into Viet Minh hands; the new French-supplied shells were going straight to the Viet Minh's own US-made artillery. Great video - can you do some more French Indochina ones, about, say the disastrous withdrawal along RC4, or the slaughter of Mobile Group 100 ?

  • @jean-pierrebarbisan1502

    @jean-pierrebarbisan1502

    3 ай бұрын

    Oui cette bataille de la RC4 fut un désastre. Un concentré d'irresponsabilité et d'incompétence. Ça me rappelle une époque...🤔😉

  • @malpreece5008

    @malpreece5008

    2 ай бұрын

    Why focus on the French defeats? I would like to see a video about Giap’s disastrous attempt to take the Red River Delta in January 1951. The Viets had at least 12,000 casualties and they achieved nothing. Also, a video about the Battle of the Day River in May-June 1951 might be interesting. It could discuss how the French defeated the Viets, inflicting at least 2,500 casualties on them for the loss of less than 500. And let’s not forget the battle of Na San in late 1952, when Giap once again showed that he was an unimaginative commander willing to throw his mens lives away in human wave assaults. The Viets had at least 4,000 casualties at Na San, and again they achieved nothing.

  • @jean-pierrebarbisan1502

    @jean-pierrebarbisan1502

    2 ай бұрын

    @@malpreece5008 Bien sur,il y eut quelques batailles victorieuses grâce au Maréchal Delattre qui en dépit des difficultés énormes redonna confiance au corps expéditionnaire. Toutefois ce que l'on retient c'est surtout la dernière bataille perdue ,tant sur le plan militaire que politique. Que GIAP fut peu économe de ses hommes est une réalité ; que tant d'hommes ait pu le suivre en dépit des pertes énormes laisse perplexe. Tant et si bien que même l'oncle HO s'en etait ému et avait envisagé de le destituer. Puis DIEN BIEN PHU l'inscrivit dans l'histoire à tout jamais. And for the record focusing on French defeats is part of French Bashing made by Americans( US),who are talking about"French pussies": in the 2d WW first month one hundred thousands casualties ( remember DUNKERQUE who allowed British army to pass the Channel). They should think about that.

  • @malpreece5008

    @malpreece5008

    2 ай бұрын

    @@jean-pierrebarbisan1502 Indeed. Giap should have been dismissed, as he squandered the lives of his men. The French fought well throughout the war, but as with Algeria the French military were ultimately compromised by their politicians.

  • @jean-pierrebarbisan1502

    @jean-pierrebarbisan1502

    2 ай бұрын

    @@malpreece5008 Yes ,yes you tell the truth. Even in the second WW, French have been betrayed by politicians but not only. You should read " une étrange défaite " by Marc BLOCH( a gringe defeat ).

  • @TheThailightZone
    @TheThailightZone3 ай бұрын

    It is often forgotten that America lost Korean & Vietnamese wars. This is why you don't see documentaries about these wars/battles promoted much in the USA.

  • @That90sShow

    @That90sShow

    2 ай бұрын

    USA has never won a war bud

  • @owlfighter4377

    @owlfighter4377

    Ай бұрын

    Technically no won or lost the Korean War has it is still on going. It just in a cease fire currently.

  • @jamilsonlontrasanches4644
    @jamilsonlontrasanches46445 ай бұрын

    Excelente documento.

  • @ShubhamMishrabro
    @ShubhamMishrabro6 ай бұрын

    Great video on such an underrated topic. I hope you make one on first indo china war or also called operation masterdom when British indian forces faced Vietnamese

  • @QuanNguyen-dx6ht

    @QuanNguyen-dx6ht

    5 ай бұрын

    Chúng tôi không giao tranh với Anh Ấn. Chúng tôi bắt được họ cũng thả về vì họ không phải kẻ thù xâm Lược họ chỉ làm việc giải giới quân Nhật

  • @kensvay4561

    @kensvay4561

    Ай бұрын

    I must google that. The British rearmed the Japanese POWs and used them against the resistance. My father was British Army and fought against the Indo resistance in Surabaya. A huge battle with tanks and planes to crush the Indos. The Dutch wanted the colony back.A vicious four year war followed. It was little known. When the Aussies were sent in to Borneo to mop up Dutch oil engineers from Shell were on the invasion boats keen to get oil and profits going again. Hundreds of Aussies died there for Dutch oil interests. This should be more well known. Great book on the battle for Surabaya. Revolution in the City of Heroes.

  • @1971gift
    @1971gift7 ай бұрын

    The brilliance of Vo Nguyen Giap

  • @zetectic7968
    @zetectic79687 ай бұрын

    French catastrophic mistakes: 1. underestimate your enemy; 2. Put you defensive position in a valley surrounded by hills covered in jungle; 3. assume the enemy has no artillery. The sheer incompetence in believing this was a winning strategy.

  • @havu-oj4qh

    @havu-oj4qh

    7 ай бұрын

    The mistake of all Vietnam's enemies is to look down on Vietnam

  • @markgarrett3647

    @markgarrett3647

    7 ай бұрын

    Don't forget no. 4. Ignoring no matter what the densely populated and rice-rich province of Thanh Hoa.

  • @phil-sv1on

    @phil-sv1on

    7 ай бұрын

    Don't forget no. 5. The armchair generals of the internet. In fact, the occupation of Dien Bien Phu was perfectly logical. The position was strong, well chosen and inescapable. It defended Laos very well. It was also quite understandable that the French could not anticipate that the Vietminh could have such power projected 500kms from its bases for 5 long months as they were never confronted with it. All the French had faced up to that point were massive waves of infantry assault weakly supported by artillery. Enough to make them fear giant ambushes in isolated areas but not enough to worry them in pitched battles against the elite of their army. Although in a desperate position from the very first days of the battle, the French troops held out for almost two months, inflicting heavy losses on the attackers. So, the entrenched camp of Dien Bien was not as weak as all that. The Vietminh victory was a feat that surprised everyone. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oJiB2tammKSpl9Y.html

  • @brunol-p_g8800

    @brunol-p_g8800

    7 ай бұрын

    The exact same mistakes the USA did in Vietnam and in Afghanistan, the sheer incompetence of the USA in believing this was a winning strategy, not even mentioning the astronomical ressources they poured into it. While the French situation is understandable given the political situation of the 4th republic at the time, the post war rebuilding of the country and lack of means, the troops in minority and total lack of interest and understanding in military affairs of the senate presidents (the actual head of state in the 4th republic, who changed every few months, while the president of the republic didn’t have power but only a protocol statute), the US situations on the other hand are unforgivable.

  • @MrGaters34

    @MrGaters34

    7 ай бұрын

    Actually, it was the strategy to draw the ennemy into a decisive battle. And it worked exactly as intended... except the outcome of the decisive battle.

  • @louishoskin9046
    @louishoskin90467 ай бұрын

    Great video as always RTH. One tiny quibble, strong point at DBP was called 'Él*ia*ne' not 'Él*ai*ne'.

  • @redcardinalist
    @redcardinalist6 ай бұрын

    Georges Delerue's Concerto de l'Adieu for the 1992 movie "Dien Bien Phu" is well worth a listen

  • @camilojimenez6216
    @camilojimenez62167 ай бұрын

    Hosts ‘ French pronounciation is impressive

  • @zacharydurocher4085

    @zacharydurocher4085

    7 ай бұрын

    He knows French and is Canadian.

  • @philipdurling1964
    @philipdurling19645 ай бұрын

    I find it amazing that Vietnam had to fight 3 wars of independence, against France-USA-China! If ever a people have earned their place at the UN.

  • @MrShobar

    @MrShobar

    5 ай бұрын

    Japan too.

  • @QuanNguyen-dx6ht

    @QuanNguyen-dx6ht

    5 ай бұрын

    Chúng tôi chỉ muốn làm 1 nông dân trồng cây và nuôi cá

  • @jackynguyen1228
    @jackynguyen12286 күн бұрын

    Amazing Chanel love from Canada

  • @jemima2879
    @jemima28797 ай бұрын

    "Grotesque century of despair" was a great line

  • @stitch77100
    @stitch771006 күн бұрын

    An actual documentary on English, about a French defeat, without French-bashing or derogatory and snarky comments, with actual testimonials from the period, and covering both sides of the conflict, not forgetting the major help (or lack thereof) on an international scale ? That's very refreshing to me honestly. Thank you for the work you put into your videos, and the quality of the footage you used to illustrate it.

  • @Sabelzahnmowe
    @Sabelzahnmowe7 ай бұрын

    Intersting that the Support in Vietnam was tied to German rearmament. I never read about that connection. Nice video

  • @realtimehistory

    @realtimehistory

    7 ай бұрын

    you should also look up the involvement of German soldiers in the French foreign legion during this battle Some wild photos out there.

  • @ajithsidhu7183

    @ajithsidhu7183

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@realtimehistorywhy the brothels?

  • @ajithsidhu7183

    @ajithsidhu7183

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@realtimehistory4:58?

  • @Barwasser

    @Barwasser

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ajithsidhu7183 They didn't have Netflix & chill at the time...

  • @hellomoto2084

    @hellomoto2084

    7 ай бұрын

    ​​​@@ajithsidhu7183to blow off some steam Bhai Unke paas unki biwiyan nai thi na 😅😅 isiliye

  • @vrosary4247
    @vrosary42476 ай бұрын

    Nice video dude, as a vietnamese, thanks you.

  • @DonHorner-wn6fk
    @DonHorner-wn6fkАй бұрын

    Several have commented that Air power was the difference at Khe Sanh. Air power was vital but the real difference was 6,000 Marines. The French were outnumbered 2-3 to 1 the Marines were outnumbered 5-6 to 1. There artillery put ranged us also. Don't forget thre French outnumbered the Germans by a factor of 2,5 and surrendered I less than 5 weeks, Marine ground and air was the difference. As the sign at boot camp said "we make Marines ans we win battles". As a participant I can say this.

  • @jimmynguyen5404
    @jimmynguyen54046 ай бұрын

    Im just proud it was my people but hurt to the core when I saw there suffering. I think it was heart that gave then the advantage. I know I would die to get back at anyone who hurt my family.

  • @rc8698
    @rc86986 ай бұрын

    ironically (his kids would immigrate to the US), my great grandfather fought at Dien Bien Phu......from the Viet Minh side......He was a chinese advisor who had been conscripted from inner mongolia and served in the korean war. after that war, he then served as one of the many advisors to the Viet Minh side. Before he passed in 1998, his accounts were crazy. But he always mentioned the strong hubris and massive ego of the french. When he saw the battleground before it begun, he said without the Americans, the French were gonna lose badly. Although Ill never know of course for sure, he told us how the french legionnaires werent any better and certainly werent any more elite then the Viet Minh troops. That they thought they could single handedly win was why they lost. Alot of the French legionnaires didnt know how to dig siege trenches and didnt know how to make interlocking fields of fire with bunkers. He says the entire camp was setup terribly and if the French had instead cut their losses and regrouped at Hanoi, the war for north vietnam would have probably gone bad in long run for Viet Minh. So heres a toast to you grandpa, decades later your grandchildren in US are watching the very battle you were in on youtube.

  • @thangtran8281

    @thangtran8281

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks to your great grandfather. May he rest in peace.

  • @QuanNguyen-dx6ht

    @QuanNguyen-dx6ht

    5 ай бұрын

    Cám ơn ông nội bạn

  • @QuanNguyen-dx6ht

    @QuanNguyen-dx6ht

    5 ай бұрын

    Lời cảm ơn từ Việt Nam

  • @stitch77100

    @stitch77100

    6 күн бұрын

    As a French, I truly believe that too, and even if I dislike the deaths from both sides, I fully respect the Viet-mins military capabilities and strong-will. Plus, the French ego on that war is well-known from us, and not very appreciated anymore. (Same goes for the Algerian independence war too) The legionnaires are not actually elite infantry, and I don't know why most people believe that. They are toughened soldiers with foreign origins, but fight and die mostly the same as the others. As for the bad tranches and not well dug-up positions, it was specified during the video that the base was supposed to act as a bait, to draw the Viet-minh forces out of the jungle and in a position much more advantageous to the French. So it had to look poorly defended and easy to take. My guess is that they had orders NOT to dig strong entrenched positions, and only basic trenches, and one the constant bombing started, they were stuck in those (because, once again, they did not believe heavy artillery could be moved, installed and entrenched the way the Viet-mins did. Their mistake... a very costly one). I'm not undermining what your grandpa did or saw, only comparing it to what is said in the video, and I find that this makes a great amount of sense. Thank you for sharing your grandpa's story, and have a great day :)

  • @Annalsworldhistorydocumentary
    @AnnalsworldhistorydocumentaryАй бұрын

    thank you for making this video from Vietnam

  • @jochenheiden
    @jochenheiden7 ай бұрын

    Your French and German pronunciations are excellent.

  • @huudang3419
    @huudang34197 ай бұрын

    the Dien Bien Phu battle supposed to be a big trap to destroy Giap's army, the result turned out was in opposite because the U.S. betrayed French, did not support Air power as promises! FYI I'm American.

  • @markgarrett3647

    @markgarrett3647

    7 ай бұрын

    And Navarre just wasn't the smartest tool in the shed even more than Carpentier, De Lattre and Salan were.

  • @ricardobufo

    @ricardobufo

    7 ай бұрын

    Never mind. Yus Yanks got to demo your Air power a little later. :)

  • @CHIPSSALTY
    @CHIPSSALTY6 ай бұрын

    It is insane to think they dropped 15k troops into the middle of a valley, many KM away from the frontline, to be slaughtered. These kind of tactics never works in history.

  • @stephendaley266

    @stephendaley266

    6 ай бұрын

    That's what happens when you don't respect your enemy. Most colossal losses by European militaries happened because they underestimated their enemies.

  • @bamboo9666

    @bamboo9666

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@stephendaley266if they overestimated the enemy, they wouldn't invaded them in the first place😅

  • @BzhToine

    @BzhToine

    6 ай бұрын

    The overall strategy here was to build a central strong camp as main base for multiple smaller entrenched camps to control the area with patrols. This was used before in the war at a smaller scale and worked pretty well. Problem is that was a political idea to apply it at a larger scale and if some high officers were enthousiastic, most of them were very sceptical. (And also international diplomacy and other factors like thinking that the Vietnamise would not manage to get artillery on top of the nearly vertical hills and so never anticipated it. This kind of heavy defeats generaly do not have only one cause.) But you know, that kind of a desperate defense is a French thing, have a look at Bir Hakeim or Dixmude battles if you like such stories.

  • @Coolerman565

    @Coolerman565

    6 ай бұрын

    It's called arrogance, the Americans suffered from the same mentality.

  • @kagerouge9007

    @kagerouge9007

    4 ай бұрын

    Because they're not real french, just troops taken from colonial states aka slaves. Gotta love baguette people, real classy.

  • @nguyenducquocanh4341
    @nguyenducquocanh43416 ай бұрын

    I would like to see a video of this channel covering the war between the Mongol and Vietnam

  • @khalidalali186
    @khalidalali1867 ай бұрын

    @4:58-4:59 wtf 😳 Algerian women were prostitutes all the way in Vietnam?! Wow, I’ve never heard that one before.

  • @elouenmyas580

    @elouenmyas580

    7 ай бұрын

    A lot of troops among the french units were Algerian and Moroccan, the french army often tried to provide prostitues from where the soldiers were coming from because it helped keep moral of the troops. They also had local vietnamese prostitues because a lot of soldiers among the french troops were actually vietnamese.

  • @keboonplumeria5266
    @keboonplumeria52667 ай бұрын

    It's a neck-to-neck war.... So pitiful for the US vet 😥 They shouldn't be there in the 1st place

  • @pauldelamusica1139
    @pauldelamusica1139Ай бұрын

    Late stage fighting in Korea near the DMZ showed that air power could not take out artillery pieces hidden in mountain caves. The head of the Chinese advisory group, General Wei Guoqing was reported to be delighted on hearing that the French put their forces in the valley. Viet Minh put in 4 infantry divisions and 1 engineer division for the siege. Among them, 308th, 312th, and 316th divisions had Chinese advisers with Korean war experience. Half trained Viet Minh AA battalions were called back from China with Chinese advisors down to the company level. The Chinese also provided the artillery pieces, ammo, and logistic support. The outcome was predetermined.

  • @SonNguyen-qd5os
    @SonNguyen-qd5os3 күн бұрын

    Do you know why the Viet Minh had artillery at Dien Bien Phu? Because the Vietnamese army brought all the artillery here, completely with bare hands. No helicopters, no trucks, no tanks. All with bare hands. The Vietnamese army created roads through the mountains specifically for pulling artillery into Dien Bien Phu. They pulled the 2.4-ton cannons with bare hands and ropes up 40-degree slopes. Each cannon required 50, even 100 people to pull it. A total of at least 24 105mm M2A1 howitzers entered the battlefield in this way along with many 37mm M1939 (61-K) guns.

  • @markgarrett3647
    @markgarrett36477 ай бұрын

    Navarre really did his troops dirty by even attempting another Na San when it was obvious that the ordinary Vietminh soldiery was becoming progressively exhausted and demoralised by their fruitless offensive in far away and alien Laos and has before him the easy picking of Thanh Hoa province which is a crucial rice and manpower source for the Vietminh.

  • @e63nokia57

    @e63nokia57

    7 ай бұрын

    🤣

  • @markgarrett3647

    @markgarrett3647

    7 ай бұрын

    @@e63nokia57 Are you okay man?

  • @thuankhong

    @thuankhong

    5 ай бұрын

    Viet Minh has never been exhausted because there have always been Vietnamese volunteers volunteering to join their ranks for half a century! The will to independence is in the blood of every Vietnamese person

  • @markgarrett3647

    @markgarrett3647

    5 ай бұрын

    @@thuankhong Oh you mean the press-ganged lot who were cannon fodders for the Vietminh Human wave charges against French defences who attempted to flee south in 1954?

  • @markgarrett3647

    @markgarrett3647

    3 ай бұрын

    @@thuankhong Except those Communist Vietnamese soldiers were now fighting for several months in sparsely populated and foreign wilds of Laos without capturing a single politically important Laotian city with stretched supply lines.

  • @davea6314
    @davea63147 ай бұрын

    Monty Python and The Holy Grail, Scene 8: Why No One Likes The French [King Arthur music] [clop clop clop] ARTHUR: Halt! [horn] Hallo! [pause] Hallo! FRENCH GUARD: Allo! Who is eet? ARTHUR: It is King Arthur, and these are my Knights of the Round Table. Whose castle is this? FRENCH GUARD: This is the castle of my master, Guy de Loimbard. ARTHUR: Go and tell your master that we have been charged by God with a sacred quest. If he will give us food and shelter for the night, he can join us in our quest for the Holy Grail. FRENCH GUARD: Well, I'll ask him, but I don't think he'll be very keen. Uh, he's already got one, you see. ARTHUR: What? GALAHAD: He says they've already got one! ARTHUR: Are you sure he's got one? FRENCH GUARD: Oh, yes. It's very nice-a. (I told him we already got one.) FRENCH GUARDS: [chuckling] ARTHUR: Well, u-- um, can we come up and have a look? FRENCH GUARD: Of course not! You are English types-a! ARTHUR: Well, what are you, then? FRENCH GUARD: I'm French! Why do think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king-a?! GALAHAD: What are you doing in England? FRENCH GUARD: Mind your own business! ARTHUR: If you will not show us the Grail, we shall take your castle by force! FRENCH GUARD: You don't frighten us, English pig-dogs! Go and boil your bottom, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called Arthur King, you and all your silly English k-nnnnniggets. Thpppppt! Thppt! Thppt! GALAHAD: What a strange person. ARTHUR: Now look here, my good man-- FRENCH GUARD: I don't wanna talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! GALAHAD: Is there someone else up there we could talk to? FRENCH GUARD: No. Now, go away, or I shall taunt you a second time-a! [sniff] ARTHUR: Now, this is your last chance. I've been more than reasonable. FRENCH GUARD: (Fetchez la vache.) OTHER FRENCH GUARD: Quoi? FRENCH GUARD: (Fetchez la vache!) [mooo] ARTHUR: If you do not agree to my commands, then I shall-- [twong] [mooooooo] Jesus Christ! KNIGHTS: Christ! [thud] Ah! Ohh!... ARTHUR: Right! Charge! KNIGHTS: Charge! [mayhem] FRENCH GUARD: Hey, this one is for your mother! There you go. [mayhem] FRENCH GUARD: And this one's for your dad! ARTHUR: Run away! KNIGHTS: Run away! FRENCH GUARD: Thppppt! FRENCH GUARDS: [taunting] LANCELOT: Fiends! I'll tear them apart! ARTHUR: No, no. No, no. BEDEVERE: Sir! I have a plan, sir. Later... [wind] [saw saw saw saw saw saw saw saw saw saw saw saw saw saw saw saw] [clunk] [bang] [rewr!] [squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak] [rrrr rrrr rrrr] [drilllll] [sawwwww] [clunk] [crash] [clang] [squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak...] [creak] FRENCH GUARDS: [whispering] C'est un lapin, lapin de bois. Quoi? Un cadeau. What? A present. Oh, un cadeau. Oui, oui. Allons-y. What? Let's go. Oh. On y va. Bon magne. Over here... [squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak...] [clllank] ARTHUR: What happens now? BEDEVERE: Well, now, uh, Lancelot, Galahad, and I, uh, wait until nightfall, and then leap out of the rabbit, taking the French, uh, by surprise. Not only by surprise, but totally unarmed! ARTHUR: Who leaps out? BEDEVERE: U-- u-- uh, Lancelot, Galahad, and I, uh, leap out of the rabbit, uh, and uh... ARTHUR: Ohh. BEDEVERE: Oh. Um, l-- look, i-- i-- if we built this large wooden badger-- [clank] [twong] ARTHUR: Run away! KNIGHTS: Run away! Run away! Run away! Run away! Run away! Run away! Run away! [CRASH] FRENCH GUARDS: Oh, haw haw haw haw! Haw! Haw haw heh... Citation: www.montypython.50webs.com/scripts/Holy_Grail/Scene8.htm