It's absolutely nothing to do with many clubs being sponsored by gambling companies, their ads plastered across stadiums, half-time adverts being laced with desirable betting odds and even the league's (SkyBet Championship) being sponsored by these companies

@M4NA5

9 ай бұрын

🔨

@hamiltonious7856

9 ай бұрын

Doesn't help though, does it? Just another thing on the pile. Edit: I failed the sarcasm test.

@justinh6651

9 ай бұрын

@@hamiltonious7856it’s sarcasm. He’s saying it is absolutely a large part of why

@josephstevens9771

9 ай бұрын

Or with the advertisements on every football podcast!

@hamiltonious7856

9 ай бұрын

@@justinh6651 Ah yeah I'm an idiot, whoops

Fair play for mentioning the Athletic and Tifo in this. I've never gambled a day in my life (I know my personality type and I know it wouldn't end well) but almost every single ad I see on this channel is for betting websites. It's not like that with other videos, but football feels so targeted for betting.

@user-uv2cp1qd1j

9 ай бұрын

Nothing else related to football makes nearly as much money.

@NazriB

9 ай бұрын

Lies again? Horse Face Gamble Bet

@t.c.4321

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, I am like you. I used to bet on football in school, it rarely ended in profit. It's the same reason why I never touched drugs, despite having friends who did. Although I drink and smoke, which I'm trying to stop. We all have our vices. Just try and improve before its too late and you throw your life away, is my advise.

@jcxkzhgco3050

6 ай бұрын

Football is a field where betting can generate ridiculous sums of money, ofcourse football and related content gets targeted

@badofcheese

6 ай бұрын

I envy you. I understood my personality type too late. The understanding probably saved me many other problems once I was aware of things it was safer for me to avoid. Unfortunately, I learnt all of that through my experiences with gambling. Roundabouts and swings I guess but I really empathise with every story I hear of a football player who gets caught in the tentacles.

Ivan Toney when he realizes his reinstatement date is 16/1

Keith Gillespie tells the story that while he was playing for Newcastle, he bet on the team to beat Stoke by under four goals. So when Newcastle scored the third, he actively stopped attacking during the game. Newcastle scored a fourth, and he lost £54,000.

@listey

9 ай бұрын

Good. He deserved that.

@JK_JK_JK_JK

9 ай бұрын

Nowadays he would be banned for Life for doing that! 🙄

@danielstaindl5749

9 ай бұрын

@@JK_JK_JK_JKHe wouldn’t be banned for life, Ivan Toney didn’t even get a full year. Not sure why you are rolling your eyes, Players should not be persuaded to play a certain way for a bet.

@TheMightofDab

9 ай бұрын

@@danielstaindl5749 Ivan Toney didn't bet on games he actively took part in, Keith Gillespie did

@GuinessOriginal

9 ай бұрын

He should have scored an own goal 😂

Nice that tifo also admit have bet ads as well rather than make innocent image. I respect the honesty👍🙏👏

@DR3ADER1

9 ай бұрын

It's why I make a point about using adblockers on KZread, cut off the stream and the flood instead drowns the gambling company rats.

@mankytoes

9 ай бұрын

... Are we the baddies?

@declantaylor336

9 ай бұрын

@@DR3ADER1yes you single handledly put a dent in the gambling companies profits by using your adblocker 😂

@eucherenkov

9 ай бұрын

@@declantaylor336 braindead take

@Sujay95

9 ай бұрын

​@@declantaylor336 Yes, he has. He's not losing any money to them which they would later invest in more predatory marketing and ripoff more vulnerable people. Gigachad DR3ADER1.

Gambling and drugs are similar, some people think they can control themselves when they try it but end up addicted.

@gordon1545

9 ай бұрын

People who don't have any addictions can never fully understand those who do. "Why don't you just stop?" is the most naive question in the world. Many people can do potentially harmful things like drink alcohol, take (some) drugs and gamble without any problems, they can moderate use and walk away any time. Addicts can't.

@galante6545

9 ай бұрын

​@@gordon1545 damn

@frannyp46

9 ай бұрын

@rianz. They are in fact identical. What they have in common is releasing huge amounts of dopamine into the bloodstream and it’s hard for the brain to reset.

Banning can only go so far. They need to educated young players before they get the big money. Not like the FA hasn't got the money.

@LoightaFluwid

9 ай бұрын

Not enough money to spend for the good. They want the most money they can get possible

@saltmerchant749

9 ай бұрын

Education can only get you so far. Many footballers have to grow up so fast and are so regimented in their training, where to be, when to be there and even what to eat and when to eat, that they never learn how to be adults and how to live in the real world. Problems with addictive and compulsive behaviours are rampant because of it.

@mylom8397

9 ай бұрын

Where are the agents in this? Why are the people who profit like parasites from these young men entirely removed from the conversation when it comes to helping their own clients? It's always the "clubs" and the "FA" but never the agents?

@nameanteater4772

9 ай бұрын

What if we just ban gambling or limit it to.£10 a bet? Then people can’t get the dopamine hit that occurs when you gamble (win or lose)

3:26 "And that's why you need today's video's sponsor, NordVPN."

Here in Brazil, where gambling was not allowed by law, these companies invaded our country, changed laws by lobbing. They sponsor all 20 serie A teams, and tv and YT football relationed channels. I think the restrictions in England made them search for new markets around the world. Meamwhile, I know people that really believe that gambling can be considered a source of money, like an investiment... People here never had contact with gambling world because here in Brasil this activity was never allowed, including cassinos. I would like Tifo make a video about. It's such a good topic.

@eavyeavy2864

9 ай бұрын

Underrated Information

Looking at some instances, it seems that the type of traits that make you a good footballer might be coherent with the traits that open up liability to gambling addiction. A compulsive attachment to winning can take someone down some dark alleyways, like how Ivan apparently bet on his own team to win when he was on the field.

@edwardcardona717

9 ай бұрын

The biggest thing I think is mixing it with the wages some of these guys make. For you or me, we understand a little better that we can’t waste what we have on something dumb on gambling. But for a kid who just got his first contract with a big club, it might take a lot longer for it to set in that no matter how much he has, it’s still limited, and it can be gambled away all the same. Professional footballers have much more money just lying around to keep throwing at that sort of thing, it keeps them in the game longer

@theportugueselegend

9 ай бұрын

That might be true. Michael Jordan's competitiveness made him addicted to gambling. People around him said he would literally bet on anything at anytime

@stephencooper5155

9 ай бұрын

To expand on that, it's interesting it seems to disproportionately affect forward players. Could be to do with the old adage that attackers love to win but defenders just hate to lose.

@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere

9 ай бұрын

it's a good point. They're addicted to that dopamine hit of winning. And they've been coached through their youth to win at all costs. What sport or game they actually win on doesn't really matter to them. Just as long as they win. They're millionaires anyway, so they aren't even betting for financial gain. It's more like playing a computer game to them

@stnbch3025

9 ай бұрын

That means they are indoctrinated to win and can't deal with it because the game itself is about keeping focus and reading the situation so you can have a beneficial influence while overcoming someone that wants you to fail. The game itself tells you gambling is a losing strategy and tactic.

I worked for Blue Square, an internet bookmaker back in 2002, I know for a fact at least 2 Chelsea players had accounts with us, at that time, JFH and eidur. Its been going on for at least 25 years Keith Gillespie has a problem while he was at Newcastle

@listey

9 ай бұрын

What's the issue with them having accounts?

@fidelalexander6427

9 ай бұрын

@@listey never said there was, they didn’t bet on football, just saying it’s been going on for a long time

@jase_llan

6 ай бұрын

​@@fidelalexander6427thanks for clarifying they weren't betting on themselves.

18-35 year old males is one of the most vulnerable groups to develop a gambling addiction. The subset of those men who have the equivalent of other people’s yearly salaries as disposable income makes them all the more likely.

@heretohear1847

9 ай бұрын

The obsession with winning dosnt make it any better

@TheOriginalStix

9 ай бұрын

​@@heretohear1847I feel like that can definitely be a contributing factor. Footballers spend their careers practically focusing on nothing but winning, so it's hardly surprising that they fall into the rabbit hole of trying to win money through other football matches.

Im portuguese, lived in the UK for 2 years. I remember one of the most striking culture shocks were INSANE the Ladbrokes shops, one in specific in a poor part of town that i drove by daily filled with sad eyed middle aged men. As a recovering drug addict i could see it in theyr eyes, how it ruled them. How those shops are so prevelant is insane to me.

I really hope clubs do well to financially educate their academy players first of all. I would really support increased financial education for anyone, because it’s a necessary life skill to have for anyone, but I’m tired of seeing footballers who retire end up completely broke afterwards. It’s just sad. Not all people come from families who have the know-how of managing money, especially not that much money, but even simple advice would go a long way for helping these young people set themselves up properly and avoiding financial traps down the line. Gambling being one such trap.

It’s not just football. This is a problem for athletes across the spectrum. Pete Rose (Major League Baseball) Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley (NBA) after retirement. It’s a proxy for sporting competition.

I'd be interested in seeing the link between gambling in childhood (in-game video game purchases for example) and gambling in adulthood (on pretty much anything, but mainly sports). There's concepts of gambling, I.e. risk and reward, in everyday life. But, it's the emotions that come with gambling, frustration and ecstacy for example, alongside the huge risk amd reward, that make it such a trap.

@senecauk8363

9 ай бұрын

Definitely an interesting idea, but for a long-term research piece (I've forgotten the technical name of such a piece. Edit: longitudinal!) microtransactions in videogames are probably still a bit new. Drug use in parents is a definite predictor of use in their kids, though.

Betting companies are some of the straight up scummiest companies out there. They have these responsible gambling things in place, supposedly to stop people who are addicted but I have mates who are clearly addicted and sinking hundreds into gambling every month, yet I got barred for putting a £50 bet on at once 😂 it's laughable

Excellent video. Describes the problem well. Hope these players and all addicts get help and recover.

As someone who's gambled a bit too much at times, advertising is definitely an issue. If you find the will power to take a break, then you just want to forget about gambling for a while. The last thing you need is to be bombarded by adverts to gamble.

Thank you for covering this, still not talked about enough!

I always find this interesting, cause I also want to win a little too much in every game I play but gambling doesn't excite me at all. I hate it cause you can't influence the result.

@eriklakeland3857

9 ай бұрын

Ah but you can if you’re a footballer!

Martin Chopra suffered from gambling addiction during his play time. Maybe because so many betting companies including EA make money from having ads plasted all over the stadium, shirt, TV and internet for players, average joes and children to take advantage of making money.

@cultofsgc

9 ай бұрын

Michael Chopra*

Very good video & a well presented overview of what is an extremely complicated relationships between Companies, Clubs, Players, Public, Media & Regulators. I spent 10yrs (huge slab of my adult life) specialising in engaging & trying to medigate/ educate people [incl a few famous faces] on gambling & it's related harms.

Been in amateur football teams where people are straight up addicted to gambling and are deluded about it. Hundreds every week going into it, and it's all the groupchats ended up being about. Really is insane, Ive never understood the interest myself but I guess it's like any other addiction in a sense where it starts small and slowly takes over. We really do like to think we are in control, but most of the time we are not

In the US , we've been seeing more and more gambling sponsors coming to football and other sports once online betting became legalized. A local club about an hour from my home has a gambling partner on the back of their shirts. My state doesn't have a casino except at a horse track, but doesn't stop anyone from advertising and people traveling to them. What I think the EFL should do, is have a class or session with regards to money management and allow for retired players to give guidance and to see what can happen in the future. They do this already in the NFL for rookies.

Well done for putting you’re own brands up there too. Well done. If you hadn’t the whole article would have fallen to pieces.

British culture among young people is to go to the pub and put a few quid on games. Its ingrained in our society and there are so many who gamble liberally. The clubs should take more responsibility for the players wages if they are seen to be having gambling or drinking problems. To go further, British society as a whole needs to understand and be better aware of the dangers of gambling, they are predators who will not help you when you need it.

@DR3ADER1

9 ай бұрын

And this has spread beyond the borders of Britain and Ireland, recently the United States has relaxed their gambling laws to allow people to bet on major league matches, and Australia's corrupt lottery companies have held the nation's population in a vice with crippling debts, fatal addictions and even harsh litigation against those who dare to expose the horrors of gambling in the Commonwealth Nation. We lost the war against gambling for the same reason why we lost the wars against Drugs, Terrorism, Hatred, Crime, Corruption, and Manmade Climate Change. Because it is too profitable and lucrative to give it up and people LOVE to gamble anything away.

@kb4903

9 ай бұрын

I’m at a holiday park and they have fruit machines for tickets in the kids arcade.

I used to manage in Ladbrokes and have seen addiction in all forms. Its too easy these days to gamble and the FA need to do more to help these players, not just ban them

Respect acknowledging Tifo's gambling ads!

props to you for mentioning you lots being sponsored by these companies as well.

I used to work in a betting shop in a service station on the outskirts of Greater Manchester, used to get the Manchester United team in on away days and a few would come in and place a few bets, never on football though and almost always horse or dog racing. Used to get one well known guy at Leeds too who would come in a spend an hour or so, again on horse and dog racing and never on football. Gambling is so easy to access in the uk, it's a surprise not more footballers are caught up in it

Sky bet is everywhere and they still had the nerve to do a show about Paul mersons gambling addiction with dabbling adverts for their own gambling site bookending every advertising break

Brought to you by The Athletic - a stats-oriented news website that sells the myth that if you understand the stats then you can gamble more accurately, and beat the house. While also promoting gambling explicitly and directly on several of their major podcasts. Good video, but the problem is that football media is paid for by gambling, and gambling is a far, far larger industry than sports is. It has more power than football does.

@jbo4547

9 ай бұрын

So?

Chasing loses is the worst, once you go down that road, its the start of the slippery slope. You hear people losing thousands in one night, usually chasing loses, its like a snowball effect once it gets going its very difficult to stop. There should be better safeguards on gambling websites that red flag people when they are obviously chasing loses. The only thing the betting companies care about though is profit, even if it is damaging so many lives.

There’s been an obsession with making football and betting a part of each other. I know like 5 people who don’t bet at least once a week. It’s worse for players, that much deposable income and the FA just want money. Therefore they give the companies lots of power.

In Italy we have a law that doesn't allow betting companies to sponsor teams and to advertise in stadiums. Of course companies have found ways to go around this ban and chances the law will be terminated in the next few years as it's pretty much useless and keeps team from having a different stream of revenue. This just to say that betting companies and sports are so deeply intertwined that I don't really think there's a way out.

It's sad really. Betting is everywhere in sporting events. And not even only there, people advertise and talk about betting like it's not an addiction and made to make you lose money. Been having friends since High School and college addicted to betting on football lile it's nothing. Honestly, almost 70% of the top 5 leagues having betting sponsors as their main sponsor doesn't help... Burnley just got promoted and they already slapped W88 on their shirt instead of the excellent ClassicFootballShirts they had before

John Terry took out multiple remortgages in the 2000s just to keep his house as he gamble in casinos hundreds of thousands.

Imagine trying to stay away from sports betting, there are triggers everywhere you turn. They make it as hard as possible

Great video

I don't like seeing so many betting apps/site ads on game broadcasts, even meme football channels have betting sponsors. It comes with competition in general, but it should be somewhat regulated.

Here in Brazil, this year, several players were discovered who were betting on their games, to receive a yellow card, to take a penalty, etc... It became a police investigation and is still in progress...

@John...44...

9 ай бұрын

Bit of a different scenario. They are probably doing this to guarantee they make money by match fixing. That isn't the same as a gambling addiction

Was watching this video to see the source of the problem but didn't expect tifo to blame themselves at 4:31

Its American counterpart also has gambling issues. NFL players are getting suspended. Yet there is fantasy football and gambling. Just ban it all.

I think the Ivan Toney situation was quite telling in that the English FA aren’t knowledgeable enough to deal with players that are addicted. I don’t think the solution was to ban him for that long because addiction is a disease you need help with rather than being punished for in that way. He could have gotten a shorter ban but the priority should’ve been for him to get help for his addiction and dealing with the issue that football promotes gambling on every level, but then they want to punish people for getting caught up in it.

@saltmerchant749

9 ай бұрын

We need to save players from themselves, it's true and we need gambling sponsors out of the game. Whilst the ban certainly won't help Toney, the problem with players betting on matches, especially ones they have played in, is a thing that brings the integrity of matches and the entire game into question. Fans pay money they don't have to follow their teams and they deserve to have a player honestly trying their best for their club, not trying to cause corners or get cards to spot fix.

@fraac

9 ай бұрын

toney isn't addicted. 200 bets over years. an addict places 200 bets a week

@00dude3

9 ай бұрын

His sentence was insanely lenient already

@saltmerchant749

9 ай бұрын

@@fraac Those are the bets he was charged for making. The actual number is WAY higher.

The problem is the majority do not have gambling problems, it is only certain personality types who have lack of self control. And if people do not want to help themselves there is not much that can be done.

Just banned all gambling related activites in football and introduce 10 years min in jail, 20 for illegal gambling. You will see the problem gone within a day.

Anyone blaming shirt sponsors need to give there head a wobble.

@lumiere930

9 ай бұрын

yeah because when we banned smoking adverts, the number of people who smoke went up! i am being sarcastic in case you do not understand

A lot of downtime and very competitive personalities.

@natsudama4604

9 ай бұрын

I imagine every chelsea player bet against them every game because you lot got 12th place 😭😭😭😭😭

Damn, wasn't expecting Tifo to implicate themselves

PSA to gamblers, the industry would disappear immediately if the house didn’t have the advantage. You are paying to loose.

Betting apps don't help, nor does sponsorship but most of the companies advertised don't have a UK presence. They're targeting Asian markets who see the Premier league. Betting, alcohol and other major partners should be banned. Sure not everyone is affected, good for you, but enough are that people need to take a stand. The documentary with Paul mersin- credit to him for doing it- was eye opening seeing how angry he got Betting on something as simple as red and blue shapes

Ivan Toney has a gambling problem… so his team bring out new shirt with a gambling sponsor. You couldn’t make it up!

@rq7284

6 ай бұрын

The owner of Brentford is a professional gambler so

That last line are just utterly ridiculous and completely out of step in the modern game. Most managers are terrified to speak to players about off the pitch matters as they know the player will be crying to their agent and using it as leverage against both the manager and club. It's amazing to that he never mentions agents at all in this, not once. The people who helps players extort huge sums of money are absolutely no where then their own cash cow needs help, suddenly it's "the managers fault". It's not the managers job to look after your personal life, that's YOUR job as a PROFESSIONAL footballer and an adult. The idea the manager is granted the overreach to dictate the lives of his players is insane, just because he has poor impulse control and needs help. This is symptomatic of the growing culture of man babies, who want money, fame and attention, but absolutely no personal criticism or accountability.

@00dude3

9 ай бұрын

Caulker comes across as a tool. He's meant to be an adult and already went to rehab so he knows he has a problem.

@shakiMiki

9 ай бұрын

Weirdly judgemental & oblivious to the nature of modern football management by clubs managers. There is even a phrase for it: man management.

@Sujay95

9 ай бұрын

You talk as if those players are stealing fromy your pocket. Go touch grass, you terminally online clown. Pretty sure you're the man baby who spews abuse on social media in the garb of "criticism" and "accountability" to feel better about yourself. Great managers/mentors/role models form great relationships with people around them. That's why many players publicly refer to Wenger, SAF, Klopp, Ancelotti etc as their father figure and are remembered fondly long after they're gone.

@mylom8397

9 ай бұрын

@@shakiMiki I'd say it's you who's oblivious. The power dynamic is entirely in favour of the player, and they know it. Modern management is basically walking on eggshells unless the behavior of a player publicly impacts on the image of the club, and even then the manager will not directly be involved.

Ban on anything gambling related in football. No front of shirt, sleeve sponsors. No ads anywhere in the stadium. Certainly not anywhere near the main sponsor of the leagues.

@jbo4547

9 ай бұрын

Yes ban everything that can be addicting. Ban food from stadiums cause we can have people getting fatter. We should ban club shops as well cause people can not be trusted with their money. Some people spend way too much money on merchandise, it needs to be stopped!

Caulker was really gifted, he reminded me of Rio Ferdinand but his career couldnt even reach heights of Anton Ferdinand. Didn't know poor guy was struggling with Addiction. Betting companies make lot of money and also generate decent sponsorships for clubs in the UK. Not sure how clubs will find other suitable sponsors outside betting once it's banned and will it reduce premier league club's spending power? may be Tifo can make a video on that soon. In India Betting is illegal, so prominent British betting companies who are entering India are finding loopholes in system as the law predates internet. They operate under the guise of Fantasy gaming and so on and remain present online.

because they are humans

@rekhavmenon1507

9 ай бұрын

Who earn 100k per week

@therealgamerg

9 ай бұрын

@@rekhavmenon1507 look past it, comments like this are the reason why suicide rates are high

@Tom-qb1rj

9 ай бұрын

A lot of humans are addicted to gambling, these peoples lives are full of the the gambling sponsors

@denuugulu3815

9 ай бұрын

True

@dreamjackson5483

9 ай бұрын

It's definitely more prevalent amongst sports people

bro I respect you. Nice vids bruh. love it.

I was sure you’d talk about match fixing. I apreciate the focus on mental health.

You had gambling addicts in football 30-40 years ago losing similar amounts in relative terms, and there wasn't gambling advertising plastered everywhere. It's clearly a cultural issue within football.

Sensible transfers videos??

I bet this video will do well

Can you do a video on England footballer culture in the 90s and wenger revolution?

@mylom8397

9 ай бұрын

"Can you do another video about Arsenal, but don't make it obvious it's about Arsenal"

@kb4903

9 ай бұрын

@@mylom8397 Chelsea fan actually. Love to see a video on the drinking and partying of the 90s.

@AM2K2

9 ай бұрын

They didn't see it

it's really jarring when I watch an illegal stream of sky sports, that they allow so many ads from betting companies like bet365 etc

Ivan Tooney: dont ask me

It's always surprising to me how professional footballers can fall into this addiction. To me, betting always seemed like something people with little disposable income get into, because the promise of it is basically it being a get-rich-quick scheme with some gamification to keep you hooked. How is that at all enticing when you *are* rich already? If it's about winning, I'd probably develop a video game addiction far more quickly, because with those, you can at least influence the outcome. And yes, there's a joke about professional footballers being able to influence the outcome of the games they bet on, but that's besides the point. Overall I think the harsh bans are the wrong approach, by the way. If people have a problem and aren't just blatantly match fixing, you shouldn't punish them as if they were, but try and help them out of it.

@MrShaneHardy

9 ай бұрын

A lot of people will use that excuse to gamble, "just trying to make a few quid" or whatever, but most of the time it's all a cover for either addiction or them being on the path to addiction. The key reason people becoming addicted to gambling is the thrill you get, even when you lose. And sometimes it starts by someone enjoying sports and wanting to get more involved. Not everyone likes video games but most footballers are huge fans of other sports too

They are separate but Sky Bet sponsoring the football league until 2029 around the same time the Premier League bans shirt sponsors of gambling sites sure is one step forward & two steps back.

@mylom8397

9 ай бұрын

The Premier league is in demand enough to be able to refuse advertising money as there is other money on the table, other leagues and sports are not in that position. The Premier leagues is in position where it can afford to have a luxury principle. Demanding that everyone be forced to adopt the principles of the super rich is utterly detached. I don't see the Premier league putting it's hand in it's pocket to help smaller clubs down the leagues who can't refuse to turn away that money.

The bans need to be lifetime for any players or managers caught betting, no exceptions

It’s like how coke is associated with sports .

@cfcblue8

9 ай бұрын

For Maradona, it was not a recreational drug, it was a performance enhancing one.

@natsudama4604

9 ай бұрын

​@@cfcblue8i see the Englishman crying here 😆

@cfcblue8

9 ай бұрын

@@natsudama4604 I like to imagine Argentina's training kit has Coca Cola as a sponsor in his honor

@natsudama4604

9 ай бұрын

@@cfcblue8 and i like to imagine the england kit is sponsored by the funerary that made the queen's burial, they made a billion just for that 😭

Not me watching this while curating a slip. 😂😂😂😂

Gambling sponsorship needs to be phased out asap

The advertising has nothing to do with encouranging people to gamble from gambling, it's in the hope of customer retention, with them having already gambled. Having worked in the industry from shops, to being a trader, to financial crime, I have seen most facets. I saw countless footballers actually play the slot machines rather than specific events, some well known pundits etc lose thousands. And yes there were some players who bet on their own teams and other teams in their division kept secret. Trust me Ivan Toney is NOT the only person who's betting on games in their league. If you want footballers not to gamble, find other things for them to do as a club when you're in hotels at away matches, or in the local community once training has ended.

@sorzin2289

9 ай бұрын

Might as well just go to the movie theater.

Lmao the irony that most of epl teams have gambling sponsors and they actively promote fifa fut which is basically gambling

Not surprising,as many teams are sponsored by sports betting companies!

its so pervasive throughout the sport, honestly its disgusting. Take youtube for example, anytime I watch something related to sport of practically any kind, 90% of the time it will be a betting company ad.

@jbo4547

9 ай бұрын

And does that make you go and gamble your life savings away?? Are you an adult who can make your own decisions?

Every commercial break: BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET (please play responsibly)

Toffers got caught also

The devil makes work for idle hands

Just becoming a professional football player in itself is a gamble. If all your life you've been risking so much to make it to the top flight and it worked out well then why stop now.

I never bet a day in my life. I still don't understand how can people can get addicted to it.

@shashankjayaram

9 ай бұрын

Well ur not addicted cus you’ve not allowed urself to be

Right...and Betway(Westham's shirt sponsor) is selling toys

Just another example of the hypocrisy rife in an industry that sold its soul to the highest bidder a long time ago.

A simple lobotomy procedure and they will stop gambling forever. Any addiction can be cured this way.

Tifo and the athletic are culpable too and should sever ties asap with gambling companies!

@jbo4547

9 ай бұрын

No they shouldn't

@SH__-

9 ай бұрын

@@jbo4547 care to elaborate

Why not play stock market?

This topic reminds me of the South Park episode where they ask why rich and famous men keep cheating on their wives.

It's so hypocritical that The FA, The EFL and probably half the professional clubs in the country can take money from gambling companies that profit on the outcome of games yet players get huge bans if they're caught betting on games.

@mylom8397

9 ай бұрын

It really isn't.

@00dude3

9 ай бұрын

yes let's have player bet on things they can actively influence, sure that will end well

There's a big big chance some of the footballers are engaging in match-fixing especially in the lower leagues if they have debt etc. Perhaps the English and really the Europeans could actually temporarily suspend their arrogance toward anything related to US sports, as Pete Rose infamously was betting while managing the Cincinnati Reds and was banned indefinitely. Anything related to gambling in a sport you have to walk carefully - especially w/ all the prop bets, there are so many ways to rig an outcome of a bet. Imo Toney should be banned for at least 1 full year if not more

Yeah when I see videos like this I’m convinced players like Harry Maguire are gambling addicts. U can’t go out of your way to everyday and choose to play poorly . Like gifting goals and making it your life mission for Man utd to lose every freaking game . He needs to be investigated for sure

When anyone gambles away their fortune it's always their fault and no one else's unless they're being forced by another. It's their money and their decision. Plenty of people don't gamble despite being exposed to gambling ads/activities on daily basis.

@GoodGarret777

9 ай бұрын

Nice victim blaming, very empathetic of you.

@g3orgie764

9 ай бұрын

Brain dead comment

@ousmansano21

9 ай бұрын

​@@GoodGarret777how are they the victims

@Duckbrainsoup

9 ай бұрын

Because addiction is a mental illness, and your brain doesn’t work the way it should. You’re right it is their own money and decision, but their brain tells them they need to bet to get that ‘rush’

@jeanlundi2141

9 ай бұрын

@@ousmansano21 I don't drugs either but if I hear someone has a drug problem I'm not gonna say something stupid like "it's your fault, no one is forcing you to do drugs!": I mean, are you people thick? It's an addiction. The reason it can be dangerous and out of control it's BECAUSE it's something people feel helpless to control most of the time. If you never had an addiction you won't understand. I mean, if you have empathy you'll want to. If you are a d*ck devoid of empathy, you'll victim blame because you are not actually interestd in understanding people and the psychology behind it.

I can proudly say I've never used these betting apps and bet even a single penny.

The manager has more important things to do than solve players' betting addictions. It's up to the club and the league to help the player, not the manager. Steven Caulker is so wrong in this.

Because its fun

One things we dont mention is how Organised crime has influenced players to play a certain way failing which, they're lives will be at risk. eg El Diego Maradona.

Half the kit sponsors are betting websites

I like how they diagnosed Tony with a problem then freaking banned him. Man city are right there…

FUT is gambling too

Don't do drugs, kids!

Would you switch your life to a footballer’s, getting paid a good wage, but you always gamble most of it every month?

Fair play for calling out you take gambling money. But why? You’ve discussed how harmful it can be