As a boy growing up in the NYC area in the 1950s, I saw Enterprise from the Pulaski Skyway many times when she was berthed in Kearny, NJ prior to and during her scrapping. I felt both privileged and saddened at the same time. I also saw Halsey's TV appeal to save her. The ship's name on her stern was preserved and can be visited at a amall outdoor museum located in River Vale, New Jersey.

@edwardcharlesworth9679

8 ай бұрын

Oh wow I didn’t know any of her still existed. Thanks for sharing!

@Redhand1949

8 ай бұрын

@@edwardcharlesworth9679 It's worth a visit. Open air, and you can touch the relic. Understated but inspiring. The local library nearby has an Enterprise exhibit, which I must visit one day,

@robertf3479

8 ай бұрын

@@edwardcharlesworth9679 Some equipment from CV-6 was used in CVN-65 when she was built. My understanding is that those same bits and pieces are going to find places in the new Enterprise CVN-80.

@williammitchell4417

8 ай бұрын

Ironic that Katherine Pulasky became a doctor who served aboard a "future" Enterprise!!

@BobSmith-dk8nw

8 ай бұрын

@@williammitchell4417 Hunh ... That might not have been an accident ... .

Hms Warspite contrived to break the tow and ran around on the Mountamopus reef Mounts bay,on attempted refloating she broke adrift again. She ran aground again in Prussia Cove, probably thinking she could have one last go at the Germans. She was refloated again moved and broken up at St Michael's Mount ,mounts bay .Her boilers are still there.

In my fiction universe, both Warspite and Enterprise have been preserved, the latter even being photographed with her nuclear powered counterpart.

@themerchantofengland

8 ай бұрын

That would have been amazing, I like your version of reality.😊

@jackthedragon612

8 ай бұрын

@@themerchantofengland Thanks.

@marckyle5895

8 ай бұрын

What's sad is that nuclear 'wessels' are extremely hard to turn into museum ships because of the reactors. They have to be removed upon decommissioning. Removing them from the ship involves removing large portions of the structure and no one wants to pay to have them put back together afterwards just for a museum. _All_ of the nonprofit orgs who look after the existing museum ships are struggling for $. When I toured one of the preserved Essex class, I saw much that needed to be repainted and derusted...yet I appreciated finally getting to see a carrier up close and enjoy the guided tour from a docent.

You made a good point about why many of these historic ships were not saved. They fought many hard battles and were in terrible condition by the end of the war. USS Pennsylvania and Saratoga were two good examples. The ship that ultimately got saved were often late-war ships in much better shape. Collectors of militaria often see the same things with firearms, web gear, and helmets. Those which fought the early, hard battles were usually lost to attrition while the items we have available to collect today were largely made in 1945 and 1946.

While many people will chime in and say “we gotta save the ship!” When the issue of money comes up, many people will shut up. When it comes to doing work on museum ships, it immense, and it never ends. Most of the fellas I spoke to who served in the war, wanted to come home, and get on with their lives, not memorialize their ship, or plane, or tank. Believe it or not, many guys came home with difficult and painful memories.

Wow! Got more than what I bargained for! The SMS Goebben BC was with us that long? I never knew that! Too see the Big E cv6 berthed abreast with the Forrestal cv59 was really cool. Thankyou for the video and for those who had the power to save those great ships of history.....BITE ME!

When my parents left England in 1952/53 there were still some items, like coal which were rationed. In 1970 my mother still thought of butter as a luxury. There were some battleships like Warspite and Rodney which were towed to the scrapyards because the UK could not afford to repair the engines worn out after six years of non-stop war.

@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t

8 ай бұрын

Well, about 2 weeks after the Germans surrendered, rations of bacon (4oz to 3oz)), cooking fat(2oz to 1oz) and soap (except for babies and young children, down by 1/8th) were cut. In 1946, the wheat crop was devastated by a washout summer, and bread and flour became rationed, when they hasdn't been in wartime, and they would come off rationing until 1948. Winter that year was also longer and colder, and a significant portion of the stored potatoes were ruined, meanign that another item which wasn't rationed during hostilities became rationed in peacetime. In 1953, confectionary and sugar rationing ended, and in July 1954, all food rationing finally ended. One seldom discussed effect of rationing was the virtual disappearance of some varieties of cheese, as many smaller creameries were closed in favour of more efficient producers, making a standardised "government cheddar". By 1945, there were only 100 cheesemakers in business (all making a fairly uniform product), whereas before the war, over 500 could be found in the south west alone. Variety only really re-entered the market in the 80's.

9:30 the (later ) USS Saratoga had a chance at becoming a museum ship in Jacksonville Florida, but was defeated by the NFL seducing the city council into paying for a brand new stadium instead to attract the Jaguars. 130 million to rebuild the stadium vs 6.8 million to turn her into a museum ship. So now she's scrapped, the Jacksonville Jaguars were a laughing stock of the NFL for the longest time, and the city only recently got the USS Orleck second hand (no offense to her, she's a beautiful ship, but no supercarrier). I could've grown up with an aircraft carrier in my backyard, and I entirely blame the NFL for that.

I grew up in Tacoma Wa. They had a scrap facility. I remember studying history in middle school. The very ships we were reading about were scrapped in that time. The USS Ticonderoga was the most famous Carrier I saw broken up.

@jeff7.629

8 ай бұрын

I remember seeing them sitting there waiting to be scrapped. They were in Commencement Bay close to the mouth of the Puyallup River. A friend of my dad's worked at the scrapyard. He said there were bread pans greased and ready for bread dough in the ship's galleys.

@thereissomecoolstuff

8 ай бұрын

@@jeff7.629 I was 15 and we would row out and break into them. Never the carriers. Mostly minesweepers. They were literally walked away from, closed and locked. They even had classified documents all over. We never took anything but it was fun and an adventure.

@jeff7.629

8 ай бұрын

@thereissomecoolstuff that's what my dad's friend said. Do you remember the World War 2 submarine berthed in the area? I got to go abroad it one time. I also got to go see the battleships over at Bremerton.

@thereissomecoolstuff

8 ай бұрын

@@jeff7.629 I do not remember an American submarine. There was a Russian sub getting painted on the Foss waterway for a couple of years in the late 1990’s

@jeff7.629

8 ай бұрын

@thereissomecoolstuff I think the American submarine was there around 74 or 75. I left Tacoma area around 84. I guess I missed out on the Russian submarine.

I liked your balanced view about Warspite. Even now, in the UK, it's very difficult to preserve ships. HMS Plymouth was scrapped even after she looked like she could be saved. A big issue in the UK is simply that it is a small country, and waterfront land is at a premium. So, mooring an old ship takes up prime land.

@ashleighelizabeth5916

8 ай бұрын

I've tried explaining that to people and I don't even live there. But I can read a map and I've lived in two different states with battleship museum memorials and visited states with other ship museums and finding a berth for one is always an arduous tasks based around a long list of very specific criteria. People that have this mindset of what we "should have done" to preserve history aren't living in the reality of what it takes to make that happen.

as a kid there was a submarine I use to admire at the swan island ship yard in portland ore. around 1960s and early 70s and I wondered if it ever sank anything, later they scrapped it and I found out it was the USS RASHER that was arguably the highest scoring US sub. think it could have been saved if more people would have been aware of it,

@patrickmccrann991

8 ай бұрын

USS Tang was the highest scoring World War II. 31 ships sunk in 5 patrols. However, the Rasher was a high scoring boat during the war.

Use the famous ship names for new construction. There is a new ENTERPRISE under construction (the successor to the decommissioned nuclear carrier which in turn followed the famous CV-6). There can be a new LEXINGTON, a YORKTOWN, an ESSEX and so on. I don't like the idea of naming supercarriers after U.S. presidents. Keep the old ship names in service.

@SSGLew

8 ай бұрын

They better name one after CV-1 (USS Langley) as well.

@williammitchell4417

8 ай бұрын

Rather strange that CVN-80 succeeding CVAN-65 is A LOT like NCC-1701E and NCC-1701G

@doug4932

8 ай бұрын

I agree... name new carriers after older carriers. How About a new SARATOGA and RANGER

@williammitchell4417

8 ай бұрын

@@doug4932 It was rather funny, during the Pacific war a second Hornet was named and built in a way to confuse the enemy. I doubt that same tactic could be used today. There are a LOT of differences between CVAN-65 and today's CVN-80.

@JoshuaTootell

8 ай бұрын

I'm okay with naming carriers after presidents participated in actual battles. Not many of those, and rules out every president for a few decades.

There are two other ships that could have made interesting museum ships. USS Marblehead, her story was epic, and HMS Furious one of the oldest aircraft carriers in existance, by the time she was scraped she was the oldest aircraft carrier in the world.

Scrapping Warspite and preserving the HMS Belfast (a cruiser) as a museum ship is something I'll never understand.

@lafeelabriel

8 ай бұрын

Belfast was in far better shape, also as a much smaller ship she's cheaper (..relatively) to keep around

@panic_2001

8 ай бұрын

@@lafeelabriel Without Google: All I know about the Belfast is that it was put out of action forever by a magnetic mine at the beginning of the war. Ok, Warspite bad condition - three other QE class battleships also survived WWII, then one of them was preserved (two of them were overhauled in the USA during the war?) QE class is legendary!

@lafeelabriel

8 ай бұрын

@@panic_2001 Not forever at all. It took three years, but she came back to fight for the rest of the war. Including being present at North Cape.

@robertf3479

8 ай бұрын

@@lafeelabriel I believe Belfast also served off the coast of Korea during that conflict.

@lafeelabriel

8 ай бұрын

@@robertf3479 I do belive you are correct.

As a kid, I can still remember an aged Adr. Halsey trying to raise money to preserve the Enterprise. However, several of her portholes were preserved and installed on CVN 65 and now are being installed on the latest Enterprise CVN 80

@doug4932

8 ай бұрын

Really... now thats cool

Your delivery is getting better by the week…and your content is always presented intelligently. Good job!

Yavuz ex-Goeben was the most interesting ships of the 3 to preserved as mentioned in the video. There are fewer WWI ships preserved. USS Texas was WWI but it was updated as a bombardment ship in WW2, with radar, casements removed, etc.

My dad served on Hms Warspite from early 41 till mid 43 and and was stationed on the port side 6" guns and said she was a lucky ship that couldn't be sunk although many tried. After the war when he heard that she run aground on the way to the breakers he laughed thinking that was the way she wanted to go. The picture you have at the start i think is from the time she was being repaired in a navy yard in New York state. He is in picture somewhere.

@themerchantofengland

8 ай бұрын

Hello. My grandad served on Warspite. We have a pic of him in uniform aged 15, he apparently lied about his age! He was present at jutland. I'm not sure when he left Warspite. I wonder if your dad knew my grandad, unlikely but you never know. Have a great day my friend.😊

I hope you get better soon. While the practical needs of the time took precedence, I still feel it's saddening to lose such historic ships.

All your videos are entertaining and informative, so chill out on length. Another great job!👍

I was aboard USS Missouri when we made a port call on Istanbul in 1986. We had heard of the Goben/Yavuz and wanted to see her. Of course the reply was, "Regrettably, she was scrapped a few years ago." Aboard the Missouri, in your photo, was a young deck seaman. That man returned with the Mighty MO as Command Master Chief, John Davidson.

Historical Coast Guard cutters, destroyers, submarines and PT boats are manageable assets for the small amount of money received in fees and donations. It is hard to justify such a big boat as a museum. A good video explaining the reality of owning one of those holes in the water to dump money.

_USS Enterprise_ had the perfect mix of luck and skill throughout. My kids and grandkids know her name and exploits. I'm just glad to have her pictures and now her videos to share.

Great video. You always have photos I've never seen. Becoming a fan. Damn shame we lost the "Big E."

Further ships to protect, Washington, Vanguard, Vittorio Veneto, Richelieu, Giuseppe Gerabaldi, Yukikaze, O'Bannon, Portland, Sheffield, and then maybe because of the coastline, both California and San Francisco and San Diego

3 good examples. Such a shame for 3 great ships to be lost.

Warspite, I agree, a shame but understandable (Self-wrecking, Poetic). Maybe Saratoga? Goeben, Inspired choice, again regrettable. ANY Flower Class (1 is not enough!) or V&W or Clemson!? A follow-up perhaps? What about a quick location guide for those Ships that HAVE been preserved? Greetings from an amazingly Sunny London, UK.

The Beatles song (Tax Man ) was about the tax rate in England! It was 90% for high earners! And that was well into the 60s.

Nice video, hope you're feeling better soon

What about King George V? A great example of British battleships. And Olympic, the last of its class of ocean liners.

@user-bd3ds4ev5f

8 ай бұрын

Olympic was the first of her class tho

Had the privilege to go on the USS Texas dry dock tour back in July, its insane the scale and costs involved in getting these monsters in shape enough just to show off to the public. Texas's saving grace was that she was sold to the State after the war ended plus her mostly undamaged shape when the war closed out. That being said, shes also the prime example of what negligence in upkeep will do to one of these ships even when being "saved", as much as we'd like to believe, these things arent immune to the slow march of time and need to be constantly tended to else they end up where she is today and thats a cost most goverments won't justify especially if there's no support outside the budget, and we all know how good said goverments are at managing a budget lol...

@marckyle5895

8 ай бұрын

Drachinifel has a vid on the Texas while in drydock. They're having to replace her torpedo blister due to rust.

Realizing that this could theoretically go on and on, i'd add a fourth - The IJN Yukikaze (Taiwanese Dan Yeng). She was only scrapped in 1970 (albeit after being damaged a year before in a Typhoon). The last IJN vessel afloat, was at Guadalcanal, Leyte Gulf, escorted the Shinano when she sunk, escorted the Yamato when she was sunk, and then served in the Taiwanese Navy. That one is also a shame.

@ironkeko4423

8 ай бұрын

I really think He should make a Video of Lucky Ships Cuz Yeah Yukikaze is like sucking the luck of what Ship She escorts and pumps That to her Luck Stat

Enterprise lives on in science fiction.

@marckyle5895

8 ай бұрын

She will float again by 2030. Might last til 2100 if they maintain her right.

Interesting pick & presentation of 3 naval warships that under different odds & courses of outcome(s) would still be in existence & afloat as museum ships …I think the HMS Renown and HMS Vanguard were 2 RN warships that were too easily rid of and scrapped as well …The French WW2 era battleships Jean Bart and Richelieu did survive until late 1960’s as it was and both ( or at least one ) being saved surely would now be very interesting naval warship museum ships …As has so often been witnessed and seen the acts of well foresighted properly weighed & scaled preservation are too heedlessly, carelessly and needlessly side stepped away from for a pile of weak reasoning & failure to form & hold a properly seasoned long view towards historic preservation …In the realm of architecture there is the epic failure of vision that befell Pennsylvania RR Station in NYC during the 1960’s as a prime example…Or the failure(s) to preserve a sizable number of aircraft from pre and post WW2 era from the big flying boats ( Boeing 314 / Saunders-Roe Princess ), the obsolete bypassed by time and technology pioneer aircraft engineering / giantism of the late 1940’s / early 50’s Brabazon to one or 3 examples of the Boeing 377 StratoCruiser or Lockheed Connie airliners with their very interesting design & decor styled 1950’s cabin interiors intact...Same for several American RR steam conventional / turbine locomotive types that had no examples saved & preserved … …The Americans could have held in preservation as true legitimate war trophies IJN Nagato and the big I-400 class IJN subs as well as German KMS Prinz Eugen …USN pre WW2 naval air wing power development & practices were integrally connected to the the battle cruiser derived / conversion based large pre WW2 era aircraft carriers CV2 Lexington & CV3 Saratoga … WW2 naval combat survivor CV3 Saratoga surely deserved a better end fate as a historic USN preservation ship similar to the USN Midway …One could point to the ongoing sad fate of the 1950’s ocean liner SS United States which sadly was / has been allowed to become a gutted out derelict which surprisingly is still with us & afloat ….There is always plenty of $$$ fiat money when properly motivated to be created …The main shortfall(s) has (have) to do with lack of far sighted assessment of what best should be saved regardless of “$$$ ”cost”… What cannot or will not be built or done again becomes and is the 1st & best reason to save & keep it around as a historic marker of what was once built & done…It is a true & valid point to be made that everything cannot / should not be saved …It would seem wise however to let the passage of time & scaled / measured hindsight best inform what ultimately should be and is saved …historic legacy should be carefully considered …once gone …gone forever…

@ironkeko4423

8 ай бұрын

I don't really think they want Nagato Still Floating tbh

@lukewalken1316

8 ай бұрын

At least CV3 was spared the Scraper's torch unlike CV6. Damn Shame

Enterprise won 20 out of a possible 22 battle stars for sea battles during WW ll. The next closest ship was 16 and the nearest carrier 12 stars. She actually fought during the Pearl Harbor attack and was the only one of 7 carriers still afloat prior to Pearl Harbor that was still fighting at the end of the war.

@nicholasconder4703

8 ай бұрын

I think you forgot USS Saratoga (CV-3) and USS Ranger (CV-4). Saratoga was used in the atomic bomb tests, while Ranger was scrapped in 1947.

Naming is important, the states get involved with ships names after them, if Enterprise were called USS California or Florida, it would have a high possibility the state would have held off the scrapping or bought the ship.

I agree that it is sad that CV6 got scrapped. It also saddens me that BB56 the USS Washington, wasn't spared. She was the only American battleship to sink an enemy battleship, in WWll. She was even the admiral's flagship when this happened. It saddens me that she wasn't spared. I believe she had 12 or 13 battle stars as well.

@lukewalken1316

8 ай бұрын

Where's USS Indiana and South Dakota? Weren't they both scraped?

Simple reason: the almost unthinkable expense of preserving an old warship. Particularly, a capital ship.

you say it was easier to save an historic ship in the 1960's. I remember watching a TV show about '65 or so all about the terrific battle to save an aircraft carrier hit by 2 kamakaze off Okanawa. A chaplain won the Medal of Honor for his heroic leading of the effort to clear a burning twin 5" gun mount of ready ammo. The ship was USS Bunker Hill. After getting home to New York, she was completely overhauled, then placed in reserve. She never came out. So in the mid 1960's there was a carrier still in WWII configuration, just waiting to become a memorial museum dedicated to the nearly 900 men lost on her. The show I had seen was part of a huge effort by hollywood and others, many veterans of the ship, to save the Bunker Hill. It failed, and she was tuned into tin cans and razor blades.

you forgot the USS Oregon after the Bull dog was gloriously retired. to Portland. she was donated for scrap, target practice, and a barge, sad ending to a ship already a museum

A nice job and good choices. USS O'Bannon could be added; 17 battle stars in WW2, 3 more in Korea....and not one member of her crew was awarded a Purple Heart. Truly the "Lucky O."

It would probably be just as expensive to build a replica of these ships, it would be cool if it was possible though.

A few Ships that would have been cool to see today: HMS Vanguard HMS Renown Nagato Jean Bart Cruiser Prinz Eugen Cruiser Sakawa (Pretty much ANY 1930s&1940s Japanese Cruiser would do) Yavuz (as mentioned in the video) An Alaska Class Heavy Cruiser Any of the South American BBs a few submarines: I-400 Submarine M-Class Submarine Narwhale

Very sober and even keeled (pun intended) view on this matter. I have heard so many people lamenting that famous ocean liners were sold for scrap instead of preserved, and I often see those ideas as totally unrealistic. For instance a bunch of people saying the RMS Olympic should have been preserved as the sister ship of the RMS Titanic. Well she was broken up in 1935, a good 30-40 years before most people would even think of such an outlandish idea as preserving just for reasons of nostalgia, an old ship that was no longer commercially viable. I hear the same with SS United States rusting away in Philadelphia. Who is going to pay for it? I have visited SS Queen Mary in Long Beach, and it's fascinating, but the cost of maintaining even one such ship is astronomical. And for all the war ships (I have only seen USS Wisconsin in Norfolk VA, HMS Belfast in London and the cruiser Aurora in St Petersburg Russia) it must be insanely expensive. By the way I am more of a railway guy myself and you hear the same things there: "how could they scrap every last one of those classic locomotives, why wasn't that legendary train set preserved" etc. We who enjoy these things are a small group of people, and even if we were to spend all our time and money visiting interesting museums and working on preservation projects, there is no way that would suffice to support all the preservation efforts that may be important or worth while. Sad but, maintaining old technology is one hell of a task. (Imagine the folks preserving 70-80-90 year old aircraft, sometimes even operational...)

The Iowa class weree alsmot all saved, but they did very little during thier service, bring used as anti-air which the destroyers weree probably were a much more economic solution. At that time battleships and battlecruisers had basically two roles, air defense for aircraft carrier groups, and shore bombardment. As I stated destroyers werre probalby a much more economic solution to the air defence, and monitors would have been more economic for shore bombardment. The Americans are so proud of these ships that were built long after it was obvious that the battlehip cost way too much for what little they provided.

Very sad the Warspite and Goben were scrapped.

Watching this as I drive past the hero independence class ships at bremerton on my way to my station. Those spiteful hunks of junk are supposedly slated to become museums, but we couldn't save Enty. I get it, but I ain't happy about it.

@robertf3479

8 ай бұрын

Those carriers that had been mothballed in Bremerton are gone now according to the Navy. The last of these, CV-63 Kitty Hawk is being scrapped as we discuss this in Brownsville TX. The final conventionally powered CV in layup is CV-67 John F Kennedy. She is slated to take that final trip to Brownsville as soon as Kitty Hawk's scrapping is complete.

@colinmartin9797

8 ай бұрын

@robertf3479 yeah kitty hawk is long gone. The only carrier left is the Nimitz, which is active. We have the two independence LCV's and two guides missile cruisers that have all been decommissioned right now, along with our normal in-service vessels. I actually met with a man who served on the kitty hawk in Korea and Vietnam yesterday at work

@lukewalken1316

8 ай бұрын

​@@colinmartin9797Heard the Navy wants to retire its Aegis Cruisers. Cruisers are considered obsolete now?

It's tough enough keeping a small boat in museum static display condition. Or a single airplane. I was a volunteer at an official USAF museum for a decade and the aircraft will literally fall apart if left parked in the weather due to corrosion.

Scrapping these legends was a crime, but can you imagine the uproar if these ships were used as Target practice or even test ship at Bikini Atoll?

Well some ships became museums only to be scrapped later , including USS Oregon which was an early Battleship (metal hulled warship type) from the 1890s, similar in construction to Olympia and a contemporary of the USS Maine (the USS Oregon was a veteran of the Spanish American War like the Olympia which was Admiral Dewey's Flagship during that conflict)

Generally people were less sentimental about preserving the past in the 50s and 60s than later. A lot of historic buildings in Germany damaged by allied bombing were torn down despite restoration having been well possible. Ironically some were rebuilt from scratch in the 2000s. People back then were less sentimental about the past.

Warspite was the last battleship to carry out a full broad side attack on a enemy ship - in Norway I believe.

@marckyle5895

8 ай бұрын

Surigao Strait happened 4 years later. Hell, it would have been nice to see WeeVee preserved. She was present at Tokyo for the surrender.

@ironkeko4423

8 ай бұрын

​@@marckyle5895imagine if John Denver Sang Country Road on Wee Vee

A worthy fourth ship I would suggest is the Baek-du-san, formerly the USS PC-823. This ship was a hastely built sub-chaser of just 280 tons. In the late 1940's South Korea had no navy, no ship. A commander decided they needed one and convinced the men under him to crowd source one. Contribute what they could, even their families would take in extra work like cleaning laundry to raise a little money. Not near enough, but the government decided to make up the difference and a small surples ship was purchased from America. It no longer had a main gun so the crew purchased a single 3 inch gun with 100 rounds of ammunition. Too few for them to fire any practice rounds. In June 1950 North Korea launched a surprise attack that overwhelm South Korean forces. Only one port, Busan, remained that was far enough south to provide a port that was critical for sending in reinforcements from American and elsewhere. Without it, South Korea would be doomed. On June 25, the entire South Korea navy, the Baek-du-san, sortied out. That night, it encountered an unlighted ship in the darkness. They challenged it but got no response. When they closed, small arms fire suddenly erupted. It was a North Korean freighter carrying up to 1000 men, intent with seizing the port of Busan. The did not start well. Men fell from wounds. But South Korea sailors rushed across the gun sweep decks to man an operate the main gun. They started firing but could not get any hits. The captain ordered the Back-du-san to close the range. They finally started to get hits and sank the North Korea ship. No where in history do I know of a single example of a single ship saving a country, which to this day one can see from space at night, a country of light and a country of darkness. This was scrapped in 1959. It should have been saved as a museum ship with a highlight of Seoul school children being a field trip to this ship and walking the decks of the small ship that saved them.

There was also the Almirante Latorre from Chile which was only scrapped in 1959...

So sad battleship cove scrapped that ship went by it every day :(

yep my grandparents still talk about ration cards

Obviously, she wasn't scrapped, but the Royal Navy scuttling the only French ship of the line and a Trafalgar veteran in 1949 was dirty. The Duguay-Trouin/Implacable should have been saved.

As a positive counter example, I guess the Texans were simply willing and able to pay for USS Texas right from the start. The other states who wanted "their" battleship (New York, Pennsylvania and I don't know who else) just couldn't foot the bill

There still exists one "ship" of the imperial German navy: U1 exhibited in Munich in German museum. However, it is cut in half longitudinally.

To be honest, while some say that the british really needed the money from warspites scrapping, at the same time blowing money into an increasingly costly carrier modernization that cost about as much as a brand new carrier

The USS Enterprise SHOULD have been saved and berthed in Pearl Harbor where the damnable Missouri now sits. Did more on a slow day than that battleship ever did and she should NOT have been scrapped! She was the most loved, respected and decorated ship in all of the Navy.

I always Cry when the fate of Warspite after laughing maniacally as She Gangster Her way From Jutland to D Day The other was The Sinking of The First Laffey and the "Your all alone Laffey" of the 2nd Laffey

These ships were seen as assets and they had value in scrap metal and they were often grave sites and considered hallowed ground

Not to mention that 100 years old our people were unlikely to be thinking about museum pieces let alone even having time to visit the formerly elitist establishments so I would suggest that it's a relatively current phenomena.. #OurHistory ☘️

The rationing was partly to export to Europe food they desperately needed. Agriculture was on its knees at the end of WWII. Fields had to be cleared of bodies, abandoned munitions, munitions that had not exploded, vehicles and other bits and pieces. There areas in France that haven't been cleared called zone rouge. They are too dangerous to clear.

Look up HMS Vanguard....could have been a bookend to the HMS Victory

The Enterprise was never known as the Gray Ghost. That was USS Lexington which is a museum. As for the science fiction franchise named Enterprise the original script had her named USS Yorktown but the USN had commissioned the CVN 65 also named USS Enterprise which was the first nuclear powered carrier so Gene Roddenberry wanted modernity for his starship

@laggerstudios3392

8 ай бұрын

USS Lexington was the Blue Ghost.

@SennaAugustus

2 ай бұрын

It was a name given by the Japanese. Warspite was called the Scarred but Unsinkable Ship by the Japanese. And instead of Enterprise not being named the Grey Ghost, it is more accurate to say she was not the only one named that. A number of other ships were also given the name.

The problem that Texas is having with the USS Texas, can be at least partially solved, by doing with it what the Japanese did with the IJN Mikasa, and encase the lower hull in concrete, and enclose the entire thing to landlock it. It will never sink or capsize, and the part of the ship in concrete no longer has to be maintained.

@cats400

8 ай бұрын

Bro, you have no clue what you're talking about. Encasing a ship in concrete is probably the worst thing to do to a historical ship besides putting it in a permanent dry dock. Mikasa was forced to be encased in concrete due to the Washington Naval Treaty. Concrete is porous and traps water against the steel. Below the concrete, there is very little left of Mikasa.

The British needed steel to rebuild. A major factor in preserving ships is the cost of upkeep

The scrapping of CV-6 Is to the eternal shame of the US Navy. I still can't quite believe this happened.

They didn't keep my father's ship the USS Block Island or any of her class.

HMS Warspite, HMS Vanguard (Battleship) and HMS Dreadnought are the three obvious RN ships

Universal Starship (USS) Enterprise? No, one of the previous ones! 😂 Several of the American and English ships named Enterprise were displayed in the sci-fi TV Shows... not all I think.

There's a first world war ship laying in Belfast docks near haland and wolf named hms caroline

I was thinking heavy cruiser Prinz Eugen would be on the list.

Museum Ships are very expensive...

I'm surprised that they didn't try to save the HMS Warspite's sister ship the HMS Queen Elizabeth, since it was obvious that HRH Princess Elizabeth would be Queen Elizabeth II in 20 years or so!

Yavuz deserved a kinder fate than that. Although I suspect she was in pretty poor shape by the end due to the Ottomans/Turks having a bad (and well recorded) habit of not maintaining their ships as they should

There was a "joke" that the USS Enterprise, in 1946, had almost none of her original hull left, since she had been hit so many times that everything was either patches or updates!

The Royals could’ve sold off some art, jewelry to save the Warspite. She had warship kills of WW2 and would’ve been a top tourist attraction.

USS San Francisco (CA-38).

We should have kept HMS Warspite or HMS Nelson. And then the last proper HMS Ark Royal.

@matthew1790ML

8 ай бұрын

Ark Royal was sunk

@Ewen6177

8 ай бұрын

@@matthew1790ML Not the last true through deck carrier. 1974.

I think its just sad that their won't be an Enterprise preserve as museum, the sucessor was nuclear-powered CVN-65 and is unlikely to be preserve due to contamination and the same for CVN-80. Its unlikely CVN will be preserve a museum due to defueling and classified nature of their construction.

It’s a shame, and a disgrace that Enterprise CV6 was scrapped, she single handedly carried the navy all the way toward the late stages of the war

sad times indeed

Lend kease crippled brutain , it was only funally paid backvl plus interest in 2006 , not including ahared technologies, rationing ended officolly ended4th july 1954 but certain items where still hard to come by

No ship has a story like USS Enterprise CV-6. Nothing comes close. Enormous shame money is the root of all issues then...and today. Forethought versus hindsight, she should have been saved for posterity. Essex-class museum ship USS Lexington, is awesome, yet no Yorktown-class carriers (only one left afloat was the Big E) is an embarrassing oversight by the US Navy and the population of the USA at that time.

I'm guessing Warspite, Enterprise, and Barb

Enterprise CV-6 I hope it’s not Herpes… cause one you get it you Got it… If you caught Crabs you are Golden. Just Shave EVERYTHING Down THERE and get yourself some BlueStar Ointment. If you caught a Fish… you got Dinner!

@lukewalken1316

8 ай бұрын

Errrr....what?

USS New Orleans CA-32 would have made a fine museum ship in her namesake city

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in an alternate 2023: Uss Enterprise ex-CV6 had just been stolen as someone had snuck aboard and installed a flux capacitor.

No one goes to a Museum anymore!

And the Enterprise rental car company was created by an Enterprise veteran.

If they really wanted to save these ships, several boondoggles could have been dumped for preserving these ships.

The Turks’ attitudes and actions against Europe has hardly been conducive for the West having warm and fuzzy feelings towards Turkey.

What about the most famous of them all, the S.S. MINNOW

I saw a vid of a salty old Enterprise vet who said he was glad it didn't become a museum "A bunch of runny nose kids running all over her"

Man im pissed off enough as it is. Also RIP Hindinsee😢

I would have loved to have saved the most damaged, for the public to ser the destruction of war. Instead we get the best examples. But, then we'd have to face the horrors of war.

@lukewalken1316

8 ай бұрын

War is big business Guy