A wonderful scientist! Takes a very difficult subject, the evolution of consciousness, and then explains how it can be utilized rather simply for more happiness and less sadness, anxiety, and fear. Thanks!

Watched all of it, great video thanks

Amazing that at over almost 50 years into a highly educated & intellectually curious life, in which I've become deeply familiar with vast domains of knowledge.... I've not once bumped into this precise topic... until I just happened to be wondering about this exact question and then found it in 5 seconds on YT. I gather then that our ancestors' survival was enhanced vs other members of the applicable species, at the time each successful randomly mutated, incremental component of consciousness was added to the infrastructure of the evolving brain...Driven at each phase by the advantages conferred from a richer awareness of our feelings. Great presentation! Well done!

@jk11149

4 жыл бұрын

I had the same thing, i wrote down the idea that evolution is the only logical way for consciousness to appear, and then found this speech. The ideas he covered actually represents the next step in psychological thinking, which surprisingly not all psychologists share.

@jz5005

4 жыл бұрын

Юлия Каравашкина - I guess those creatures that mutated to feel good around predators didn't last long enough to pass down those traits to the next generation. , i.e. Our collections of feelings, which he suggets are the precursor to consciousness, were just those, among many other unsuccessful randomly mutated emotional responses, which were adaptive to survival.... Thus happiness, fear, anger, boredom, etc. etc. have no other particular or meaningful connection to the experiences that create them, other than what promotes survival.

Right from the beginning how does one define happy? How is it certain that you need to have a nervous system to be happy (Even if at the most very rudimentary level)? The cells do communicate with each other and plants even communicate between each other. They give up defenses when attacked. Who knows when you start win an anthropomorphic assumption.

@kennethbransford820

3 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't that depend on your synaptic connections and the health of the host? Evolution = Self Assembling Atoms = Impossible

Thanks to KZread for perfectly timing this video in recommendations just after I gained my consciousness from sleep in the morning.

Why consciousness invented evolution (and how to make the most of it).

@myrinsk

3 жыл бұрын

Midiwave Productions hold up

@juliemarie8963

3 жыл бұрын

@Knox Creed Scam ‼️ 😐

Amazing...

Evolution invented conciousness.. So would evolution be conscious

@juiceer3320

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

Clearly his unconscious is responsible for his self image.

The biofeedback thing is interesting...

Interesting n informative talk. Thank you, bless you. All your dreams come true.

Consciousness is like the immediate center, the stillness where all potentially infinite vibrations continually cross over from collapse into expansion. Betwixt the past and future, the divide of opposing magnetic fields, the inside of insides, the divinity that is the immediate experience. Even the nature of consciousness suggests this awareness

@macysondheim

Жыл бұрын

Ok, it’s like the immediate center, but it’s not the immediate center. Not the same thing… consciousness is still subject to the information paradox and the delay between brain neurons & muscle nerves to one’s senses and awareness. And the vibrations you’re talking about, aka string theory are only potentially infinite when considering consciousness as a whole, in the form of s super organism, and not as individual entities

@steghuman9063

Жыл бұрын

@@macysondheim The immediate center is akin to the inside, the inside at the center of the proton where the expansion and contraction ebb and flow through. You see the inside is the same thing it cannot be smaller it cannot occupy space and therefore cannot change it is omnipresent and the very cuase of the unchanging "when" of the immediate. Only outsides change feedback , always in motion simply that the outsides cannot be the immediate stillness of the inside. Consciousness in fact everything in the universe utilizes the collapse and expansion in all it's infinately different scales and frequencies. Consciousness is a feedback system that is aware of the outsides changing yet unaware that it is in fact the inside that remain the unchanging basis for the feedback system to collapse into and expand away from. It is all the same but different scale and rate of oscilation.

@steghuman9063

Жыл бұрын

@@macysondheim Ok for visual purposes, imagine a sphere that collapses through its inside\center only to expand again to its original size this I think, is precisely what is happening inside the proton uetron at the rate of "NOW". The next scale larger is the electron, exponentially larger in scale but the electron is not collapsing through the center\inside of the atom because this can only happen at the smallest scale inside the proton uetron. The electron "sphere" is collapsing and expanding at a much slower rate and larger scale. Add heat the rate increases and the scale increases a little, cold > the electron sphere gets smaller and the rate of oscillation decreases.

@macysondheim

Жыл бұрын

@@steghuman9063 No. Everything you’re saying is complete bogus.

@macysondheim

Жыл бұрын

@@steghuman9063 infinitely*

grinde is rediculousy brilliant

It did ? Finally someone explained what consciousness is can't wait for him to explain how it's not a byproduct and it serves anything in evolution, oh nvm 7 years he didn't

@Nokapp23

2 жыл бұрын

He says invented not created. Then consciousness people talked about different degree of consciousness.....

Crap, the subtitles are horrible...

Consciousness have never been created, it is an eternal ability, actually the only ability, behind all creation. So, Consciousness have never been 'invented'. Can only be developed.

@fritsmartin8528

6 жыл бұрын

Consciousness is what we see in systems that we think are intelligent. Consciousness is as real as the colors we see. We even try to imagine our computers are intelligent because it looks like they have certain intentions and we dont know how they work. That is what i think.

@holgerjrgensen2166

6 жыл бұрын

I'd think that you're right, But, the creation of devises as can do mental functions, can only be done, by copying the consciousness mind functions of the Living, and the eternal abilities is more or less presented in the computers, and they could never work without. For instanse, Memory.

@REDPUMPERNICKEL

4 жыл бұрын

Isn't consciousness the process that converts experience into ideas? Isn't self consciousness the process that generates the idea of self? Wouldn't consciousness exist only if and when the process exists?

Arghh. I watched that because of the title, but the talk did not answer the question it purported to answer. You don't need feeling to get an organism to go towards or away from something. A signal (no matter how complex or how detached from the inputs - a thought complex is a signal) can be labelled with "bad" or "good" (or any sub-division or colouring of those categories) for the brain to act upon to attempt mitigate or enhance through action (by, again, whatever complex of signals is triggered by whatever complex of processing is triggered by that signal). You don't have to have feeling. To emphasise this, consider this thought experiment. We could, theoretically, given enough insight, skill, and computer power, perfectly simulate the behaviour of a human by writing a computer program made up of algorithms that responded with output (behaviour) that a human would exhibit given the inputs experienced by a human. Their is a myriad of ways these algorithms could be implemented, and it would be a foolish person that claimed that all of them resulted in the computer feeling. Now, it may really be the case that given enough information processing in a certain manner then this gives rise to feeling. This is known as the "hard problem" of consciousness; wow does the lump of meat in our head (and elsewhere) cause feeling? A real answer to the question posed would be something like "we've done calculations/simulations around the different ways in which we might envisage the behaviour of a human being implemented, and it looks like a mechanism that gives arise to consciousness would be the most energy efficient". Obviously we're a long way from such possibilities, and in the mean time we're at the stage of hypothesising. For what it's worth, here's my vague hypothesis. I suggest that as brains evolved in the context of other brains, and in the context of other brains that could be influenced by mutual interest (e.g. kin helping kin) the recognition of other organisms being in difficulty would be beneficial. Once that is established there is then a reinforcing feedback whereby an organism in difficulty is advantaged by being able to advertise that difficulty. Similarly, there's an advantage to an organism if they have a "theory of mind" (I have some sense of what it is like to your mind at this moment). Now, once there is a seeding of some sort of feeling (which could be by the simple accident of a particular evolutionary mutation) that nascent complex of strong feeling is ripe for being rapidly enhanced by evolution: I empathise (theory of mind) what it is like to be feeling your pain, so I will strive help you more; you are benefited by showing more of that feeling. Now THAT'S some kind of explanation of why feeling might have evolved, not this talk's trite "feeling is something that causes you to move away from or towards something" FFS.

Evolution and everything else is IN consciousness. This statement can not be proven or disproven. Consciousness is the final lick of the Tootsie Roll. 😉

@thisguy9536

3 жыл бұрын

Tootsie pop

@arnoheens5224

2 жыл бұрын

This statement intrigues me, what do you mean everything is IN consciousness?

@danielmoore4024

Жыл бұрын

@@arnoheens5224 Science has no explanation for consciousness, everything to do with the brain is a dogmatic assumption. Evolution has blinded us from truth, natural selection shapes our senses to guide us to adapt for survival, our senses seek fitness over truth. Our physical senses told us the earth was flat, were their eyes reporting truth? Imagine there's an exam shortly, some predict they're going to fail, some predict they'll pass. The ones who think they are going to fail are anxious because of predictions, not the brain itself. I can safely assume you don't look at everything in the environments you go to but have some mental image in your mind of what's there. Since you don't stare at the whole environment, what are you seeing? You see what you think is there, not objective reality. The world we see is a projection of our own thoughts, our thoughts become our perception, then we take for granted that our perception is objective reality. Where I mentioned an exam, their predictions became perception, their perception became their reality causing anxiety. Then, doesn't the anxiety make them revise more? Then that extra revision increases the liklihood of passing the exam. Their perception guided their behaviour, whether their predictions of the future were true we don't know. It's why anxiety and pure awareness can't coexist, anxiety comes from predictions, staying in the moment prevents predictions. While watching this talk did you perceive a 3D event? 3D on our screens is an illusion, we are actually seeing lots of 2D information compressed then our eyes falsely report to us it's 3D. I've come across people and even experienced it myself, that at one point I saw a world, but as soon as my conscious thoughts changed my perception I began to see a different world. So the worlds I saw were actually a projection of my own thoughts, I wouldn't of seen the world differently if it was objective reality. Scientists of the 21st century are saying spacetime and objects are doomed.

Does our consciousness have have free will?

@dmichael100

3 жыл бұрын

I would say no. Consciousness and free will or decisions are in different categories or on different levels. Consciousness has to exist first before we would be aware of a choice or before we could consider whether or not we have free will. Ideas like free will are subsidiary to our consciousness; so, I don't think you could apply free will to consciousness.

@juiceer3320

2 жыл бұрын

@@dmichael100 how would you be conscious if you dont have free will ? , we all know that your conscious self the moment you are born a child tries to discovers everything in life ! it's an experience , a learning process you then decide what you like later on in life and your decisions are built around it , i think we create our own subconscious mind .. and your persona keeps evolving from the very first moment you are born, free will is a philosophy , so u can reply with philosophy..

Consciousness gives rise to existence. If we have it now, it can be easily said that it has always been "in the cards" of Nature's laws. The deck was stacked - so to speak - and is stacked, for a state of awareness. And to assume we humans, made up of allegedly dead matter, are the only ones with consciousness? Hubris. But I think we're growing up again.

@dickjones4912

Жыл бұрын

Keep in mind Earth is seemingly alone in the universe as far as we can tell when it comes to life. It’s hubris to assume the universe/nature is in any way catered to the emergence of conscious beings (like us). Consciousness appears to be extremely rare in the universe, so if anything it’s more like a fluke. Your statement would ring more true in a universe teeming with life and consciousness, however most of the cosmos seems completely inhospitable to it. You have some growing up to do as well my friend.

What evolutionary purpose does being aware of our own awareness have?

@terryzuniga2473

2 жыл бұрын

Lets you take control of your actions. As biological beings, we are just high functioning parasites, responding to and interacting with extremely complex yet precise af stimuli, and just existing within everything else in nature. When you become aware of this, u trascend into understanding and learning to influence upon your own nature. This reflects in emotional intelligence, greater understanding of the nature of existence and capability of seeing and interacting with all the connections in the cosmos that probably your brain can now process. With this achievement we may still be parasytes because our now higher awareness is still a result of biology. But at least we can see ourselves now as... Upgrated parasytes xD Yet humanity is still finding a way to trascend from that🦐✨

@youdontexist.

2 жыл бұрын

Consciousness could be an illusion. We think we make decision but everything is based on previous experience. So this awereness could be just more advanced and developed instinkt/reflex.

@james6401

2 жыл бұрын

@@terryzuniga2473 yes I suppose it allows for higher moral societal, ethical, legal and religious codes to form, being much more nuanced than pure instinct. It's the superego of the animalistic brain. This indeed could increase survival chances, as long as you're not an outlaw!

@james6401

2 жыл бұрын

@@youdontexist. this is indeed interesting on the free will aspect. If we're not constantly being conscious of our own decision making then we'll probably let habit and historical momentum take over. If there are a number of things I can choose to do right now but decide on responding to your comment, am I not making a free choice? If my kitchen is empty and there are potentially 20 different equally nutritious meals I could cook tomorrow, how can you say my choice is predetermined now if i make my decision to shop for X in the morning?

@youdontexist.

2 жыл бұрын

@@james6401 hmm I could say you made your choice responding because you found out its a good idea = maybe in the past it was beneficial for you to respond on comment. If it was other way you wouldnt probably respond or you would hesitate. Kitchen example - I think its important what will you cook in the end. Probably something you would like. Your body actually gives you signals of what it needs. If you had hard physical activity you will have urge to eat something sweet. If you have low level vitamin C you will feel like eating some fruit, etc. So your meal choice and any decision could be actually predetermined. You just perceive that you made the choice. Or maybe not, I simply like to think about it in different ways :) Now I am thinking if writing these words is predetermined.. I will think about it.. Or I wont? :O

I'm lost. What is he talking about 🤔

We are losing our way because we unconsciously believe that the fulfillment of whatever we imagine - is our right to have, our right to do. It appears that with the loss of fear of the supernatural, due to the advances in science and technology, we only need fear our fellow humans, with whom all is negotiable. And for this, our ethics are collapsing like a house of cards...

Why? No. How? Perhaps.

All I keep hearing is Bourbon.

@jimsummers6876

5 жыл бұрын

Yes. Wild Turkey 101..stat!

Excellent explanation of consciousness. Departs from the primitive mystical explanations.

Bet he doesn't get invited to many parties.

@origin6163

4 жыл бұрын

Shut u lil frick

@dmichael100

3 жыл бұрын

Or if he does he's not conscious of it 😉

OOps, Wrong. Consciousness invented evolution actually. Invents you too. Make the most of that if you can.

@mouwersor

6 жыл бұрын

Give proof.

@fritsmartin8528

6 жыл бұрын

Is it not that consciousness is just something the brain makes up like colors, just for you? What the heck makes something really conscious. OOPS

@lonelywanderer2467

5 жыл бұрын

OOps, unless you don't provide any evidence for such a bold testament, it can be considered batshit.

@demiurge8665

5 жыл бұрын

Oops, natural selection stumbled across consciousness first, then of course consciousness (Darwins) discovered evolution by natural selection. They can both be true, not mutually exclusive.

@endoalley680

5 жыл бұрын

"Consciousness invented evolution actually. " … Er…. Uhh... Evolution invented human consciousness ... Which then invented Evolution actually.

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U didnt explain how consciousness evolved. How does a one cell organism evolve to think? I notice science hasnt found that answer. Thats why I dont treat science seriously.

@dickjones4912

Жыл бұрын

Science hasn’t figured out lots of things (yet). But it has also accomplished a lot. The fact you are using a complex computing device and communicating easily around the world using the internet is proof of that. You don’t take science seriously yet are happy to take advantage of its many wonders. Seriously.

Funny how he says that consciousness was evolutions great idea for survival yet we know evolution is not a person it is actually a mindless process so explain to me again how it is a great idea of evolution.

@dickjones4912

Жыл бұрын

English is clearly his second language and he has difficulty expressing himself at times. He explains some things stupidly, like the way he talks about the process of evolution like it’s a person.

Animals are automated by birth in large, of course still form memories, but their actions are largely automated. Humans have the capacity to master situations, to form memories and go one step abstract above the action of selecting, automatically. Instead they select based on individual memories and feelings. Animal behavior is largely similar, ie. memory is kind of preprogrammed. Or that's my take.

I think I'm done with TED talks. Seems to attract the fringe and offers little of value.

@jvincent6548

4 жыл бұрын

Yes - I agree. I look in every now and again. Once or twice they're fun though I really watch from beginning to end. When I wish to eat I prefer a good restaurant rather than a sandwich from Subway.

He is a good example that lots of evolutionist see evolution actually as a magical energie. "Evolution made, evolution created.." but on the other side they claim its absolutely material coincidental processes without any unknow matter or force.

Irony about the pocket knife. . . .and destroying ourselves and (u alarmists think) the world is perhaps part of our evolution.

no.

So the punishment module (flight/fight) suppresses happiness? Simple solution then: chill out, don't worry, be happy!

@johnyman13

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. But you cant do that if essential nessecities aren't met

@pebblenapkins

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnyman13 well.. first meet your necessities. and then chill out, dont worry, and be happy!

@johnyman13

3 жыл бұрын

@@pebblenapkins yeah... thx brother

If evolution created consciousness, then what created evolution? 🥴

@nicelydunwell5681

2 жыл бұрын

Darwin

@Blue1Sapphire

2 жыл бұрын

Science has no idea. . .they havent as yet explained how a inaminate object can become animate & begin to think & reason. Ask them to duplicate it in an experiement. Its like saying a frog can become a prince. . . . Just give it millions of yrs.

@dickjones4912

Жыл бұрын

Evolution is the process by which life changes over time thanks to gene mutation, with nature selecting certain forms to survive and pass along their genes that give those organisms survival advantages. It wasn’t created by Darwin, it was discovered as a natural process that occurs automatically. It’s like saying what created “cause and effect”. Everything in the universe, including life, operate according to the laws of physics. A better question is where the universe and the laws of physics, etc, came from.

Wait a minute. Everybody says that evolution is for a purpose. If it had no purpose, then it can't be evolution. Therefore, some level of consciousness must have existed before the first evolutionary event. Any purpose must be a result of some level of consciousness. The whole theory of evolution removes, little by little, the randomness of chance. Evolution itself is a form of consciousness that had its own evolution from a lesser level. Evolution is the result of consciousness, not the cause.

@robosergTV

6 жыл бұрын

wrong. You dont understand what and how evolution works. Its just a process, like weather, you dont need consciousness for that.

@dennisr.levesque2320

6 жыл бұрын

To RobosergTV : But, you do need consciousness to avoid death and improve life. Life couldn't have existed this long without those motives. Motives come from consciousness, not random chemical reactions. If it was strictly by chemical reactions, there wouldn't be so much diversity following different paths. It would all be the same, from the same laws of physics.

@mexdal

6 жыл бұрын

yes you do. There needs to be a directional drive and this is driven by primary energy. It makes more sense that there is a fundmental conscious energy which then drives creation in a way we dont understand yet, than just random eternal bumping together of things. Im not talking about god, but something we just dont understand yet.

@Ramon-rf8uo

6 жыл бұрын

You do not need consciousness to evolve to avoid death and improve life. think of plants

@khaledyasser8293

5 жыл бұрын

Dennis R. Levesque incorrect. Faulty logic. First of all no one said evolution has a purpose. Where tf did you get that. Evolution is the pattern that emerges as a result of certain organisms surviving. It's not that each organism individually evolves towards a "better state" most mutations are fatal, for each organism that survived a billion others perished. There is no directing force to this thing. Evolution is simply the fact that we'll only ever INTERACT WITH those organisms that have survived, however that does not in any way mean that all organisms are collectively being guided towards survival by some mystical force. It's just that the organisms that do NOT evolve towards survival are all DEAD

To say that "feeling requires counciousness" is unwarranted, unscientific, and superstitious. This dude sells snake oil. Speculation presented as facts.

@AlanlaCelestina

6 жыл бұрын

hmm, why wouldn't feelings require consciousness though? Could you give an example that disproves Grinde's statement? I'm actually very curious about this.

@holgerjrgensen2166

6 жыл бұрын

Consciousness are Eternal, and consist of six basic 'energies', Instinct, Gravity, Feeling, Intelligence, Intuition, Memory. Plants are Instinct beings, animals are Gravity beings, 'Real' humans 'are' Feeligs beings, there have only been very few examples of 'real' humans, but they will begin to appear more and more. We are just where 'the old world' , is about to be born into the new time. So, this is the basic pattern of the Eternal Development, as Darwin called Evolution.

@whatisiswhatable

6 жыл бұрын

I think that it just requires more unfolding. He was basically saying that, that consciousness is the process of feelings warranting a response in the body to move.

@holgerjrgensen2166

6 жыл бұрын

I think so, too,

Bjorn Grinde is not really conscious of his dress sense, is he?

False premise. Consciousness is the underlying fundamental feature of the universe. Biologist just study organisms and apparently are not aware of physics.

@degaussingatmosphericcharg575

3 жыл бұрын

No, that is a bald assertion. Presently we have no evidence that it is fundamental.

Not so. Consciousness invented evolution (more precisely, consciousness is always evolving). Everything is and always has been conscious according to its nature.

@arnoheens5224

2 жыл бұрын

what exactly do you mean with everything is and always has been conscious ?

pure assumption! not evidence to prove this idea

@antonystringfellow5152

6 жыл бұрын

Can you explain what you mean by that? Have you actually watched the video or just read the title and left a comment? If you have watched the video (doubtful), at least tell us which part you claim is pure assumption.

@bruceruttan60

6 жыл бұрын

OK Chris, just what has god told you about this that we need to know?

@LuisRomeroLopez

6 жыл бұрын

Still a better founded assumptions and a a more solid idea than any nonscientific explanation (and I could bet that it also beats any belief or explanation you can share with us, Chris).

@mycount64

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Stone your belief otherwise is evidence of nothing either.

"How evolution invented--" Stop right there. Random processes can't invent anything.

@REDPUMPERNICKEL

4 жыл бұрын

A. There's something called, "a manner of speaking". B. There are non random processes in evolution. C. How do you know random processes can't invent anything?

Professional liars.

@robosergTV

6 жыл бұрын

what exactly did he lie about? Proof ?

@lerui2820

5 жыл бұрын

So then what

@REDPUMPERNICKEL

4 жыл бұрын

"Professional liars." is not a sentence.

You can't invent consciousness, *everything* IS consciousness and consciousness is responsible for evolution.

@SimbaWaNyika

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you ... a simple fact that scientists have problems understanding

@REDPUMPERNICKEL

4 жыл бұрын

Is this rock consciousness? Is the sun consciousness? What is consciousness? Are there different kinds of consciousness? What's the difference between consciousness and reactivity? What's the difference between consciousness and conscious?

@grahamsouthern2151

2 жыл бұрын

@@REDPUMPERNICKEL In response to your final question, the first is a noun, the second an adjective.

What a foolish talk.

You can't ever have any directed working functions without intent of a Maker.

@walkergarya

10 жыл бұрын

No, there is no designer, there is no maker, just Evolution and several billion years.

@JungleJargon

10 жыл бұрын

walkergarya Directed working mechanisms always have a Maker.

@walkergarya

9 жыл бұрын

Jungle Jargon no

@1000aaronaaronaaron

7 жыл бұрын

wrong. dont claim that you cant. actually prove it. i dare ya 😂😂

@JungleJargon

7 жыл бұрын

Aaron Rainbolt It's your belief so you have to prove mindless things made you.

Quite a lot of unproven assumptions and doesn't answer anything really.

Not worth to watch.

"SCIENCE" is grasping at straws.

@dickjones4912

Жыл бұрын

“SCIENCE” has led to countless inventions like computers and the internet that you are using to make your comment. And to medicines that you have likely used many times in your life to help you heal or feel better. But I guess “SCIENCE” just grasps at straws.

Oh... so Evolution KNEW what it was doing, did it? Almost like Evolution had CONSCIOUSNESS itself.....? Never have I heard such utter stupidity coming from what is supposedly a clever man.

You can't ever be happy without knowing and telling the truth that only our Maker, Himself, is able to remake us again.

@youbean666

10 жыл бұрын

Teacher: Now, is there anybody here that can tell me why most alligators are abnormally aggressive? Anyone? Yes sir, you sir. Bobby: (stands up)Mama says that alligators are ornery ‘cause they got all them teeth but no tooth brush. (class laughs)Other student: ... because they have an enlarged medulla oblongata. Teacher: That is correct. ... medulla, ob-lon-ga-ta! Now, is there anybody here that can tell me where happiness comes from? Anyone? Alright, let’s hear what Mama has to say on the subject. Bobby:(stands up again) Mama say that happiness is from magic rays of sunshine that come down when you’re feeling blue. Teacher: Well, Mama’s wrong again. Bobby: No Colonel Sanders, you’re wrong. (class laughs) Mama’s right. Teacher: (Bobby runs to the door) Something’s wrong with his medula oblongata! The above quotes from "The Waterboy" express my impression of your tedious repetition of useless, trite theistic "deity" mythology. Do you have any evidence to support your lame proclamations? ( other than your mama? ). Do you have any collaborative, scientifically recognized evidence whatsoever to refute evolution? Needn't bother to answer ( especially with more of the same theistic bullshit ). You and those who are comfortable resting in your mythologies while criticizing every attempt of others to discover, learn and live in a world ( universe ) of rationality and reality, need to sit down and shut up! Try this experiment: First - Eliminate anything and everything that science ( including evolution ) has enabled in your life. Since the list of such things is too enormous to enumerate here - I'll simply name the one thing you can keep - your mythology. Second - Entreaty ( through whatever favorite method: prayer, animal sacrifice, horoscope ) your beloved "Maker" to help you live another day so that you may continue to sing its praises. Note: Be sure to thoroughly document each and every action ( both yours and said deity ). If still alive after seven days ( without the "Maker", makes one weak? ), then please return to this site and post your "documented" findings. Please start immediately, if not sooner!!

@JungleJargon

10 жыл бұрын

youbean666 You don't know scientific evidence when you see it. You are the scientific evidence of your Maker and you can't see it! Evolution is not science because science is what you can know and you cannot know the environment made you a human because that is baseless fantasy, not science.

@djdedan

10 жыл бұрын

youbean666 u are my hero.

@walkergarya

10 жыл бұрын

There is no evidence whatsoever that shows ID, but lots for Evolution.

@JungleJargon

10 жыл бұрын

walkergarya You are confusing yourself. Objects cannot make you.

Das hass no purpose

Oh, rubbish, how can evolution 'invent' something???

That was plodding, dull and just plain wrong. Consciousness creates matter and time, not the other way around. Anyone who thinks evolution produced consciousness should try to explain the evolutionary advantage of lying unconscious on the ground for roughly one third of your life.

@jec222

5 жыл бұрын

The best part of evolution is that people who can't use their reasoning faculties, like you, automatically have a lower chance of reproductive success.

@grahamsouthern2151

2 жыл бұрын

@@jec222 And people like you who settle their beliefs at an early age and then scoff at anything that contradicts that, will be the laughing stock of future generations.

@mrcollector4311

2 жыл бұрын

@@grahamsouthern2151 true, scientific dogmatism is a thing now or if you look at history it always has been.

@dickjones4912

Жыл бұрын

Sleeping is something the complex brain requires. Being unconscious (or semi-conscious while dreaming) gives the brain the chance to get some “down time” to do some “house cleaning”, memory consolidation, etc, similar to how a computer needs a reboot to clear memory, processes like “defragmenter”, etc. The brain can accomplish wonders but it is limited. This is the most efficient design selected for by evolution over time, who knows what it and we will be like in another million years (if we make it that far). Being unconscious/sleeping tends to coincide with night time hours, when the human animal can’t really hunt for food or anything, plus it’s dangerous to be out in the dark, nocturnal predators can get you. Normally humans and other animals that sleep find “safe places” to do so because they are most vulnerable while asleep. Another sign we came about by natural processes rather than intelligent design is the fact you just mentioned - we need sleep for a third of our existences. So it’s so completely ironic on your part that you would use this as an example or support for your notion that consciousness makes/made everything in the universe, since this is an example of a flaw or imperfection in what you consider to be intelligently designed. Your argument is backwards and just plain senseless.

Europeans haven't yet learned there is no such thing as evolution.

@djdedan

10 жыл бұрын

what part of evolution doesn't exist my friend: 1. all organism have offspring. 2. offspring may be slightly different than their parent. 3. this slight difference may make them better or worse suited to their environment. 4. those that are better suited have a higher chance of having offspring. loop back to first step. please point out any step that is false.

@JungleJargon

10 жыл бұрын

The most you can ever get is a warped living organism. It will never change into something it has no written directives to be. Evolution is bankrupt!

@djdedan

10 жыл бұрын

Jungle Jargon Um what part of what i described doesn't apply to you? You are an offspring from your parents, you are different than your parents, those differences may make you better suitable to procreate some more... are you basically saying you are a 'warped' organism? and i'm assuming warped means some how defective...

@walkergarya

10 жыл бұрын

Your luddite world view is not supported by observation.

@JungleJargon

10 жыл бұрын

DjDedan There is no reason to think we are ever getting better when we can see many parts of our genome is no longer working.