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@SpaceDodo

Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks!! I don't know HOW I just saw this haha

Everybody wanna be a game developer, but don't nobody wanna lift no heavy ass code

@HibiTeamQueso

Жыл бұрын

That was so smooth.

Solo dev gets harder as games get more impressive so there will be a linear increase in "right ways" to cope as an indie dev. We're all developing games for years with no guarantee, so yes, everyone's living in one big soup of madness trying to define how to solo dev. It is a brutal journey, especially if your game development process is being made publicly. That's quite a vulnerable position to be in for someone who's also learning and defining themselves as a dev.

@breaking_point_interactive

Жыл бұрын

I like how you put that. After years of feeling too self conscious to share my work I finally started a series of dev diaries in 2019. Took a long time to mostly refine my process, it's something I'll iterate on my entire life.

@kellygallagher7148

Жыл бұрын

As a solo dev (hobbyist) I agree. It's true that we have access to more and more amazing tools every year- but the problem is that the more tools that you have access to, the higher you set the bar for yourself.

@cybershellrev7083

Жыл бұрын

​@@kellygallagher7148 - Well my bar is set on how I intend the experience to be, how I can simplify it and if it competes well in the market. This doesn't mean it's the tools exclusively that are the problem, it's the amount of projects that are already executing ideas and aesthetics so well that we have to be a little more creative, refined and analytically more dynamic than usual just to stick out on the market. This happens to every industry and already has happened to the Art and music industry; oversaturation.

Literally gut punched me with reality at 28 seconds. Its so true -- insecurity is a strong force against releasing anything artistic/personal. Excellent video though!

So glad I found your videos and many more I need to watch as I've been designing for many years since a kid on map editors and level creations. Now finally designing all from scratch and your videos really provide soo much insight, inspiration and motivation

I've been feeling insecure about using an asset pack for my environment because my favourite part of gamedev is environment art. Thank you Thomas. The thing that clicked for me by the end of that video was this: use the pack. finish the game. make a sequel with your own art. Every time I restart my project it gets better. I know this. Time to finish it and move onto the next project.

I remember when Beneath Medicine Tree came out. I ended up driving a band whose van broke down up to Cornerstone NC that summer and we listened to Copeland the whole way.

Amazing video, many developers are desperate for this kind of advice. It's easy to get overwhelmed, comparing yourself to everything around, everyone want to get to the top, but the top is not always where you expect.

I actually started making a game myself after watching a couple of your streams. Really inspiring stuff!

I am so glad I found Thomas' channel, this sort of relatable content is just do helpful in my game dev journey

your words have helped with lightening the pressure load, but I also find that every time I sit down, I lack the experience in so many items. Programming, Tools, Art, Software, modeling, fundamentals, and Music are all things I struggle with. I can find all of this on the Unity store or find some way around them. However it does not bring any unique-ness to me or my game. I have heard many success stories from indies about how they never had any experience in game development and then sat down one day and boom! I work in computers, have programming basics and cant understand how code becomes an object. Maybe I don't have to understand it, but I always like to understand what I am working with. not just hey this is magic! You do this and do that and out comes a game. Your words have inspired me to at least try again and again and again.

This video helped me a lot about finding my motivation and turning back to work.Im trying to be an indie developer but at the end of the day i always find myself feeling crap and stupid.Thanks Thomas

Thank you for your videos Thomas, I watch your videos not to learn new thing only but mainly because you inspire all of us to push forward and keep track on our dreams 👍.

MOST important video i've watched since setting out with my start-up game company!!! SOOOO needed this RIGHT NOW TOO as i feel i am dragging so close to launch! thanks for the VERY wise words and advice!!!

I have been spending a TON of time watching you recently. If/when you do another class, I will be there. I hate that I missed out on "Zero to finish". I hope you do another one. Thanks for your videos.

Was checking for a video of you today! Absolute perfect timing. Thanks Thomas for everything you do!

Ok, so my therapist suggested to start a quote book, and I think I got my first entry. " At the end of the day there's so many right ways to make a game, you don't need to be thinking about making it the wrong way."

My brother and I have a huge Google doc full of game ideas that we've been adding to for 10+ years, but neither one of us have opened a game engine before.

@serjantpizza

Жыл бұрын

Same with me dude! I have a long list in my google keep notes, but hav e no come far in development

I can honestly say that your videos do help me and give me a little boost when I watch so thanks for that!

I love the Full Time Game Dev course, brilliant to be learning from you. With the new course, is there a discount for those already enrolled into the current course as it has that in there? Don't want to pay twice for the same thing, but would gladly pay for the extra content not included in the current course.

Good video. To be honest I've been pretty insecure in making games too mostly cos of arm chair developers talking down on us for not having 100 percent custom assets. But, I've just started ignoring that and just continuing my dev journey as I see fit. I'd like to eventually replace what I'm using as placeholder if possible but we'll see if budget or skill acquired along the way will permit it.

@KANJICODER

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, no one cars how something was done. They just care about how fun or good looking the game is.

Your point that the gatekeepers are just people is so true! Gatekeepers never moved the world forward, it was always the people that ignored the gatekeepers that did so.

"what were you born talented with" this is wrong. I earned the talents I have from being obsessed with improvement. You don't just "get" them.

Love your honesty man and it's why I've loved your sruff and why I wanna play your games and why I took your word for The Firsf Tree.

how do you open pro builder? or download it

when i lost motivation, i put your videos on to keep me company. #1 biggest motivator for me, is to have company. usually it's: Music twitch stream or someone i like on youtube. I'm just not a loner, even though i work alone.

I really needed this video to continue working on my game. Thank you Thomas!

I am going to try to work with my forte but what about my fortissimo or mezzo-forte?

This is a great and very needed video. Recently I released a very similar one, talking about this exact thing just from slightly different perspective. There is one small thing which I think is maybe just a bit "dangerous" when it comes to mind set - the word 'talent'. I completely get what you want to say and I agree 100%, I just feel that when somebody wants to start making games they feel 'they have no talent for anything'. We should start telling people that 'talent' doesn't exist. Ultimately, it's all about having experience in something, putting a lot of effort into doing that and overtime learning to do it faster, better and so on. It's quite a common subject in our discord where somebody says to another person "oh, I wish I could do xyz as well as you" and the reply is always - that's easy 'practice, practice, practice'. Once again, I love the video and I am happy you talk about it :).

I read the videos title in Ronnie Coleman’s voice for some reason. “Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, but nobody wants to lift heavy a$$ weights!”. Great video tho.

@WalrusTash

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget to add in random yelling of "Yeah buddy!"

@HibiTeamQueso

Жыл бұрын

@@WalrusTash LIGHT WEIGHT OOH UUH

I liked this video, I have had this idea in my head for about a year, and today was the perfect day to see this video, since I have a day off to work on my game. This video will make me less insecure defiently

100% agree with this Thomas. Having the proper perspective is extremely important in keeping up motivation. What you said about focusing your energy on your strengths is the philosophy that drives my game design and it makes it easier to not get hung up on the things that I'm not as good at. I also loved what you said about realizing your game is an INDIE game and therefore people's expectations aren't that it's going to be a AAA game. Keep up the great content!

I'd say the main reason is overreaching leading to becoming overwhelmed and losing heart. Some of that is life getting in the way, commitments like day jobs and families that we all want and love but it does make it hard, especially if you've bitten off that bit more than you can realistically achieve in your limited time

Great advice! I do compare myself to larger games but only in as much as I can glean genius from them. Did I do as much % wise with the resources as Portal? Sure, they had millions(perhaps) and I have thousands... but did I multiply my efforts the same? I actually love having less and being required to do more. In board game design, I loved how some people decided the backs of cards were now part of the game rather than dead graphics. This is what I look for. Opportunities to get more using less.

I seriously want to make games but I don't even have a laptop to start with, what should I do🙁

I love making games and developing, but I recently stopped because I couldn’t get an audience and that made me lose all motivation. Any tips on how to grow an audience?

Hey, Thomas! Would you say it's wrong to compare our games with past generations, like a PS2 era game (to learn how they deal with tight budgets and limitations)?

Thank you very much. I absolutely needed to hear this right now.

Making games has always been a thought on my mind, but your videos made me take the steps to make it reality , thank you for doing this

A SMALL GAME to be inspired from! Look up "Dusk"! Amazing indie retro-shooter game made by a solo developer. I studied its visuals for my own personal game.

The new course as you described it, sounds exactly like the way you describe your own course. What makes it different?🙂

Before watching my guess is that most people don't actually want to make a game that say that, and then the percentage that actually do don't know how to go about doing it or think it way to hard to get started.

@nathanwhite704

Жыл бұрын

Lol it’s incredibly hard to get started, you have to be a one man army when you’re first starting out. You have to become proficient in c++ or c#. Learn every specialization in 2D/3D art, modeling, rigging, animation, texturing etc learning sound design and music production etc. that’s just for a small game you can realistically build without 1000 team members and $300mil budget. On top of that if you want to be in the mainstream industry most studios expect you to have a degree nowadays and going that route isn’t much better. The industry is notorious for being cruel, especially to artists, but in general everyone is very overworked and massively underpaid. The work the graphics programmers do for example in any other industry they’d be making at least 25% more.

@No-One.321

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanwhite704 I'm sick and tired of the whole unpaided bullshit that game developers complain about. Being overwork and/or underpaid is part of every single industry. Leave and find a better job if that's your excuse. Are you a developer? It's not hard to get started and you don't need a massive team to accomplish anything. You can learn as you go and you don't need to be an expert in every field like you said and you absolutely don't need formal education to start learning. I just started learning unity earlier this year and I have zero programming knowledge but I'm getting close to having a full demo of my game with help from a few friends and a few different communities.

@nathanwhite704

Жыл бұрын

@@No-One.321 "Being overwork and/or underpaid is part of every single industry" that might be true to an extent but the game industry is the worst its easy to take advantage of people when you use their passion against them. " I just started learning unity earlier this year and I have zero programming knowledge but I'm getting close to having a full demo of my game" lol its gotta be an asset flip if thats the case. No knowledge of programming i assume you know little about level design and game design too you're lying to yourself if you think you can make a good game.

@No-One.321

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanwhite704 man you make a ridiculous amount of assumptions then talk shit. Must be fun to be your friend.

The title led me to believe this was one of those "Game Dev isn't as easy as you think" videos, but I'm pleasantly surprised by the actual content. Too many people have limiting beliefs.

I'm currently pursuing my dream to become a game developer it's a pain in the butt, but it's fun at the same time

People like you keep indie game devs like us on the track when the wind of delusion starts hitting our window. In this video and many others you have known how to show me that low motivation moments and delusion is part of the path and not a reason to quit on it. I i just love it.

hi tomas, i have seen some of your videos on this topic, my dream is also to create my own games and make a living from this, it is a hard road, but I have always thought that watching people who have already gone through this and made it is a way to cheat I mean follow your advice and save yourself a few mistakes and time as much as possible. So let's move on!!

I am 36 years old and just starting to learn to code.. I came from zero experience and let me just say it has been really hard. Feels like i am progressing at a snail pace but i am not giving up (Progress is still progress). I just wish my physical body and brain can keep up with my will to learn... :(

My strengths are in writing, worldbuilding, design(not art unfortunately. But logos, ui, etc), and market strategy. I'm hoping to get enough done that I can fundraise and get developers to help me. I will learn C#, but don't know if I'll be good enough to make the game with it. Regardless, I'm going hard on the worldbuilding, and have a lot to go before skill in Unity even matters. Planning on making smaller games so I can test mechanics and concepts while moving forward to the actual game.

@Gears2Game

Жыл бұрын

You can easily find developers to turn your ideas into a working game if they are decently compensated. Then you can focus more on the writing and world building aspects more.

@HibiTeamQueso

Жыл бұрын

That's the opposite of me 😂 My art and narrative skills are trash

@rmt3589

Жыл бұрын

@@Gears2Game Problem is I have no money, otherwise I would in a heartbeat!

@rmt3589

Жыл бұрын

@@HibiTeamQueso Yo! Wanna make something together?

@HibiTeamQueso

Жыл бұрын

@@rmt3589 KZread stop OMG. My d1sc0rd is below

Great advice dude.. cheers from Spain!

Like coding an experimental narative that chupacabra hunt seem to be placing blocks of potential to build up for the real world of game play. Any body else have been thinking of L.A Noire as of late? Any late night walks for easing unfinish store tellings?

So many reasons really. Fear of criticism/failure (insecurity), hatred of hard work, the existence of other tasks/pursuits in life that may get in the way. There are some really nuanced fears too. Like the fear of undeserving praise. Or the fear of leading people astray with your art (if it's narrative based.) The similar fear of people not receiving your art the way you intended (and thus being angry at you for it.) Last but not least there's that existential fear... of playing a miniature "god." Creating pain and pleasure, playing with darkness and light the way you see fit. I of course do not want these fears to overwhelm anyone of us. A world without any art creation is a world I will not be reborn in. By all means Courage is still a virtue to me, so overcome this illusory firewall at will. But it's fine, I think, to be mindful of its existence. At least.

Haha love Copeland! Their trajectory has been wild to watch. Love your videos btw!

This is a super helpful video, the editing was amazing and that final tip of not comparing your games to AAA Games is a really useful tip. Keep up the great work Thomas!

This resonates with me so much. Thanks Thomas!

I’ll never release a game because it’s too hard. Games take an immense amount of effort and time, I’m just not willing to put in. Which is a shame because I have, I think, some pretty good ideas.

@bds8715

Жыл бұрын

How i feel too 😮‍💨

Because the process has you using your brain in a stressful manner and the problems in game dev outweighs their motivation to make a game. And its just not that important, daily life tends to take over..

I released my game but its totally invisible on Google Play. So what's the point???

@alangregoryvitek

Жыл бұрын

In many ways, releasing is the first step in publishing your game. You got this! I released my first game on the App Store 3 years ago and got maybe 5 downloads per week. I didn’t do any marketing beforehand - I should have. Now Im doing a major update to the game every year as I learn better programming practices and this year I’m starting to actually get some organic reach on the App Store! Now I’m getting maybe 100 downloads per week on average. Im also starting to get good feedback from players and making plans for more future updates. You got this, it will take time but figure out a post-launch plan and how to get all of your hard work in front of people. Start small and go from there. Focus on the things you can control. Good luck!

@steveevans9154

Жыл бұрын

@@alangregoryvitek I really appreciate the reply. Its not even a money thing anymore, I just want someone to enjoy my hard work but a 2d retro style car game is a saturated market. It's tough!

@alangregoryvitek

Жыл бұрын

@@steveevans9154 Totally understand! Yea, I've made $1 from my game (I had changed it from free to $.99 for a few months to see if it would work as a paid game and only one person bought it). So for now, I've spent hundreds of hours on working on it and haven't made any money. But the joy of people playing it and enjoying it really satisfying and honestly it's the main reason I want to make games - to give people a moment or two of joy

I have this (what I think) amazing video game idea that I've been working on for a year, by working on I mean a Google doc with all the ideas I want to put into it, but I need to learn to code and how to make my own arr and all that jazz, so college and KZread will help a lot when I get my computer built

@habibishapur

Жыл бұрын

Do that before you keep writing down ideas. You just dont know what is or isnt feasible, or what design decisions make sense, until youve learned to program

@theeleutheria1053

Жыл бұрын

@@habibishapur that makes sense, thanks for the advice, I got like a month until my PC build is done then I'm going to start trying to learn how to program

@chadmoberly7044

Жыл бұрын

Wish you the best with your dreams! I've quit my job with same hopes as everyone here, to make a successful game. Learning Code stinks at first, but I'm 2 weeks in and it's all starting to snap together like Legos. As far as your incomplete PC, let me guess, GPU? :P May your dreams become accomplishments 🎮🕹

@theeleutheria1053

Жыл бұрын

@@chadmoberly7044 thank you, and nah, I got the cheap stuff to buy now like the thermal paste, storage, and stuff like that, and I hope your dreams become accomplishments as well

I sent you two emails asking questions about your indie game course. Any reason why I haven’t heard back, I’d like to purchase your course but I want to ask him questions first and I don’t want to spend money on a course when I can’t contact anyone to ask questions about that course….

@thomasbrush

Жыл бұрын

email Thomas at fulltimegamedev :) we’ll getcha sorted

@Devtac-

Жыл бұрын

Will do! Thank youu!!

You are a very good videographer.🤗❤

"It's becoming increasingly obvious! I CAN'T DENY IT NO LONGER! ...i am small 😐" - Sheldon J. Plankton, 2000

Never feel as though you cant make a game, I've been working on one for a little while, and I absolutely love level design, and laying out paths and placing assets, but I am not artistic. So instead, I have been using bought assets but have breaking them apart like legoes and piecing them together, and changing textures...find a way!

The first game I released would be at home on the Atari 2600 lol. I still put it on Steam, why not?

It’s hard sir I’m trying 😅

I have been working with unity for two months. But it is certain that nbem alone can develop a game that meets all standards. I can see that now. You cannot be a programmer and model developer and animator at the same time. My own conviction is that if I want to make a normal game, I need a smaller team.

We've made 100+ mobile games for publishers. They still want us to prototype free hypercasuals before paying for any of them... It's really frustrating.

Bro whatever you did at 2:25 please do a video on this🙏

All heard was “if you ain’t pimpin… you hookin”

Because it's an extreme practicality risk and everyone broke af lmao

thank you Thomas, I needed this

Needed this. 💯

What a great video !

Made some very great points in this video.

i love seeing dusk get some representation in this video, its criminally unknown. one of the best games i've ever played so just seeing it as background footage as he's talking about great indie games is amazing to me.

There's nothing wrong with getting inspired by these bigger games... the fault comes when you start to compare what you're working on to those bigger games and thinking you're failing. Inspiration can come from anywhere. For example, maybe I want to make a game where a central thread to the game is the dynamic between a father and son. I would lie if I said that it wasn't at all inspired by God of War... or even Logan to a degree (I know that it was more of a father/daughter thing here... but the theme remains consistent). Don't be afraid to be inspired by anything in life. But make your project to your standards and compare the results to the results you had yesterday, not to other people's stuff. Constantly improve, but for yourself.

Good video brah!

Remember the price of your game sets the expectations. If you sell for

“And she said that I was the brightest little firefly in her jar…” In all fairness, the world really didn’t need another Copeland.

that was awakening !!

what you think abot godot

The biggest thing that brings me down the most is the steam review stuff. I get 400+ players a month and the only people who tend to leave reviews are the negative ones that only have 10 minutes of playtime. This brings my score way down and makes it feel like an uphill battle. I have people who come back everyday to play and people who enjoy stuff typically don’t leave reviews unless asked. I understand this as I am the same way it just sucks as the developer that mostly only negative people get the voice. I am moving my games to epic games store PC exclusive in the future because they have a way better system of handling reviews/ratings.

@uglyshack9552

Жыл бұрын

What's the title of your game(s) if you don't mind me asking?

@KomodoBitGames

Жыл бұрын

@@uglyshack9552 the one I am talking about is Mall of Mayhem on steam. It’s at 66% because I had people who played for 10 minutes then quit and left unhelpful and dumb negative reviews. The game was also in early access until august and I’ve got negative reviews on content that’s not even in the game anymore like the dickhead mr Jacob’s guy. It’s not a perfect game but I got a lot of players and a good chunk are repeating players. Most people just don’t leave reviews. It shouldn’t be a huge issue in the future though since I am moving away from steam and am setting up systems on places like the App Store that have a playtime counter before asking for a review. Epic has a playtime counter built into the launcher for reviews at 2 hour mark to prevent 10 minute trolls

@KomodoBitGames

Жыл бұрын

@@uglyshack9552 I promote on TikTok a lot and get good views most the time so it inevitably attracts trolls and that might be a contributor to the negative reviews I get tbh

@KomodoBitGames

Жыл бұрын

@@uglyshack9552 another issue is that steam is mostly bots on their store traffic, so the sample size of players is pretty low, 80% of my player base comes from my TikTok marketing.

@uglyshack9552

Жыл бұрын

@@KomodoBitGames Damn sorry to hear that man. I know it's not much, but I'll give your game a look sometime

Great video!

i have made 120 + games in 90s but today i just cant.

You are the best Thomas!

Thanks!

Or its riddled with bugs you cant figure out, but what do I know😅

Thank you for this.

az unity 3d-ből akartam készíteni call of duty vanungard mobile,, de nálam nem megy sehogy :D

If you listen to the "advice" of Reddit posters..... Well there's your problem right there.....😄

to answer the clickbait title (which isn't completely clickbait he has some points) Why Everyone Wants To Make Games But Nobody Does? Video Games has to be the most laborious forms of media to create. "Most People" People Like me, probably picked up Unreal or Unity, wanting to make a game like their favorite game, Not knowing How much man power or budget went into games like that. (imagine the kind of people getting into game dev because they wanted to make a cod/gta clone and abandoned it after a week) Ive observed that the game devs that survive this dont come in wanting to make something specific, they just be vibing to the creative process, failing a lot but having fun while failing.

I personally disagree with a lot of what you say. I agree that there is a large amount of gate keeping in the game development community. However, while making a game is “easy”. Making a “good” game is very difficult. Portraying game dev as so easy like you do sets people up to quit, to fail. Why? When people find out they can’t make the game they want because its actually really tough, they think they are stupid, because they are told it’s actually really easy these days. It’s simple, the reason nobody makes games is not because of “gatekeepers”, or bad feedback. It’s because its hard and that’s ok. Also, I agree that Indie devs should be ok to use assets. However, I still think its important to learn about the basics of 3D modelling and such like poly count etc so you dont end up wasting money buying crapping models with 100000 polygons that make your game run slow.

@BlackkTiger

Жыл бұрын

Strongly agree. Anyone who says game development is easy is trying to sell you something (in this video, barely a minute later comes the sales pitch -- no attempt at subtlety here). But in reality, game development is extremely, extremely hard. It's extremely hard even for well-established and well-funded studios, to say nothing of indies. And worst of all, the hardest parts, the most painful parts, the least enjoyable parts of game development often come later in the process, so those initial feelings of fun and satisfaction aren't necessarily an accurate picture of what the job really is. It's easy and fun to open up an engine, get accustomed to it, and start building something cool, and it's easy to envision all the success you'll have. But to turn that into something fun and engaging for a particular audience, something that you'll be proud of, and to build, balance, debug and then ship that -- that is a whole other beast, and it requires excellence coming together in many disciplines, including ones you ultimately might not enjoy at all. As with any business, it takes some luck too. I wholeheartedly agree that insecurity often holds us back, and I have personally battled with it throughout my lifetime, but sometimes that "insecurity" is actually the recognition that a project simply isn't viable, or that the work isn't actually enjoyable, or that you're not willing/able to make the sacrifices (oh the sacrifices... any indie dev story talks about the sacrifices). If that's your problem, courses and asset stores and their psychologically predatory sales tactics (flash sales! limited seats! coming soon: loot boxes?) won't fix that.

@LordJagd

Жыл бұрын

Tom also pays people to do the work for him, while also trying to get you to buy his course.

Very inspiring

Easy he says. Easier, yeah prolly. But easy?? I am learning Unity now and its not easy.

The hardest thing is to find someone to buy the game XD

thx

It's uncanny how you look like you could be TJ Miller's sibling.

I love being fake, makes me feel like a magician

The issue I have is that you NEED a top of the line PC to make games these days & not everyone is privileged to live in a 1st world country

@carlosroque9646

Жыл бұрын

You could try using the Godot game engine.

Super fantastic

I was told, your competition in game dev is not indies it's other AAA, it's netflix, it's tiktok.