I just hope it to be some kind of Hybrid like Axe but nahh just full Power dps which we have plnety of choice already but we don't have something similar to Axe.

Oh finally people bringing it up 😂 was so pointless using spear on any ranger build, mesmer is very fun though

@PaperRoll

Ай бұрын

I heard a lot of ppl say mesmer and thief are good 😃

RAnger spear need some fixes, like not getting revealed when using the skills (probably a bug), the skill 5 net and stealth not consuming the same charges (kinda asinine that it does), I dont like that the ambush gets a spore, would rather all damage be baked into the hit so not to mess with the stealth, the leap on 4 needs to be faster and longer range too (would rather it snap to target like the sword leaps). And of course, more damage across the board because rn it is very low

I already tested spear on all classes. My conclusion is: Definitely not buying patch. I only do wvw, so I'm not missing something big

@PaperRoll

Ай бұрын

Honestly I felt the same but I'm all in with gw2 and I will still enjoy pve and housing 😂

@PaperRoll

Ай бұрын

Also it is a beta so it might get much better 😶

@CarnaghSidhe

Ай бұрын

@@PaperRoll the spear on Thief is pretty good.

@PaperRoll

Ай бұрын

@@CarnaghSidhe ranger spear already drained my energy haven't looked much in other classes 😂

@PaperRoll

Ай бұрын

@@CarnaghSidhe I just tried it and I'm no thief but what is this mobility this is crazy 😂 Glad they don't have it the whole fight

Overall spears just look pretty, and not all of them at that.

@PaperRoll

Ай бұрын

It is beta let's hope spears get better 😅

@user-xo2og8kv1o

5 күн бұрын

@@PaperRoll they wont, they never did. all they do at this point is adjusting numbers. but that doesnt fix the weapon. rip ranger spear.

@PaperRoll

5 күн бұрын

@@user-xo2og8kv1o I can't say for fact I was the reason (I can only hope though😂) but my video on untamed in beta blew up about 7k in like 2 days and anet fixed most of the complains I had about it and adjusted it more through patches later so they have listened before have hope or Luke me have copium 🤣

=o you sound arabic. fellow arab in game < 3

@PaperRoll

Ай бұрын

🇪🇬 yes Egyptian 🤗

Ranger spear mechanics must be spread to overall thief mechanics. I mean that you use any skill from stealth you get reveal rebuff for several seconds. It would prevent ridiculous stealth spam. It eoukd be huge nerf to SA cancer.

@leledinn

Ай бұрын

Actually, all stealth spamming class and builds must be revamped to use this mechanics. You stealthed, you used skill which landed on target, you got reveal debuff. So you can't stealth immediately after that, you have to wait reveal timeout l. MAYBE, MAYBE it would be good idea to link reveal debuff with blind debuff. If stealthed lands blindless on target, he lift reveal and can go invisible immediately. So only really skillful players may have long stealth uptime.

@PaperRoll

Ай бұрын

Stealth is crazy strong but I think thief is the main problem as a class not stealth They have to much access to it with no cool down to weapon so non stopping burst and best mobility which make stealth even more of a problem with them

@leledinn

Ай бұрын

Not all skills should add reveal debuff, but most powerfull and annoying. It is a matter of discussion actually. But the main idea is to prevent spamming by adding impossibility to immediate stealth again after revealing yourself.

@taylorgarrett793

Ай бұрын

​@@leledinn keep in mind they can also get player stealth by long bow 3 and the panther pet now plus the smokescale smoke feild as well so they actually do have good ways to get reliable stealth, probs why they made the reveal debuff on ranger

I'll wait to see if we have something more useful in this new expansion because these spears aren't that good in wvw, maybe the best one would be for the warrior.

@PaperRoll

Ай бұрын

I'm sure they will fix it I hope they fix it enough 😆

@marshal8358

Ай бұрын

Lol warrior is by far the worst. Projectile auto, projectile 4, 5 can be walked away and not hit, 2 has tiny constant aoe which can be sidestepped and 3 is useless. Zerker burst projectile and core f1 roots you

@PaperRoll

Ай бұрын

@@marshal8358 I hope all the feed back they get from the beta be helpful enough and fix the problems especially any design ones We know bugs and unintentional problems will be fixed but they could always stick to a design we hate 😔

@marshal8358

Ай бұрын

@PaperRoll that's me and many warrior mains with bladesworn. And look at that heap of trash. Still breathing. But it got nerfed so it's unplayable lol.

To be honest ranger spear is horrible not just the dmg low , all skills not synchronised it’s just like look you can melee and range at the same weapon and lets throw on it some stealth

Yeah, I was really not impressed with ranger spear. The animations are comically awful. Seriously, what is up with that wolf leap and the web attack? Yowch! The stealth skill feels bad and it places constraints on the rest of the skillset that I think are problematic. Basically, you have to justify giving up the 5 skill for a non-damaging skill that effectively adds a 0.5s precast to your damaging skills. Then there's the issue that either your baseline attacks are extremely weak and your stealth skills are powerful, or the baseline attacks stand on their own and the stealth is just a bit of a bonus rather than a critical mechanic. They could add utility to the stealth attacks, but if it isn't contributing damage this is never going to payoff in PvE. As it stands, they're too similar to the baseline attacks with only the 2 skill giving a proper buff to the base attack. And then we have the problem of being forced to choose between damage and CC when other ranger weapons have no such limitation. This is just a mess of a weapon. I don't know what they're going to do with it.

@PaperRoll

Ай бұрын

great explanation 👌 If I remember correctly When they gave us hammer it wasn't good at the beta and was slow with low damage if want the utility side but they fixed it a lit on multiple patches not just the release All that because both untamed and his weapon were designed for pvp they made the same mistake again 😂

@HardcoreCasualGW2

Ай бұрын

@@PaperRoll I know it won't happen, but I was kinda hoping they'd get rid of the stealth and make all the skills ranged/melee conditional like the AA with some engage/disengage on flip skills to facilitate flow.

Quite disappointed. The leap skill is ridiculously short. I kept trying to stealth + 2 and stealth +4 cause I thought they were straight forward higher damage until I read more carefully. I could only make it work on a power untamed, but it could have worked better with any other weapon. And with a power druid build, but the same, I don't know the spear had any relevance on the success. I hope big changes come to it.

@PaperRoll

Ай бұрын

It is best with power untamed then beast then druid us the least and it is still better stealth but lower cc than hammer lower mobility and def than GS you get stealth and the rang hits

I completely agree with pve it’s not useful There’s no way as it’s stay this way any one will take it over mace mace

Ranger spear is depressingly dogshit.

@PaperRoll

Ай бұрын

It seems many ppl did not like this one 😅 I like the spirit of stealth and mobility and but they made it soooo limited and not good at its job Maybe it is so when they buff it we be happy mental games 😈😂

the spear rly is underwhelming, it feels like anet fails to deliver anything interesting for rangers at all ... even untamed as a whole felt like they had no idea what to do with the class.. maces were the only good thing after long time and even there they added only 1 sec of stability but on offhand where you would run warhorn anyway ... i dont think any of the devs atually play ranger, or care for the class at all

@benjaminmichaels1759

Ай бұрын

Maces are borderline broken. The only new weapon to be included in a trait line btw.

for pve, thief spear is broken af...it's trash for most other classes

Explain why it is that the people who *should* have the best idea for how to make things for the game, the developers, are so effing clueless?

none of the spears look interesting to me :(

@PaperRoll

Ай бұрын

It is only beta be hopeful 😅✌